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MacARTHUR-McCHRYSTAL
Re: Jeffrey Lord’s
MacArthur Defeats Truman: The Real McChrystal Message:
A nit and a riposte to Jeffrey Lord’s interesting comparison of Truman-MacArthur to Obama-McChrystal….
The nit: It was Gen. Matthew Ridgeway whom Truman sent to replace MacArthur in April 1951, not Mark Clark—who succeeded Ridgeway two years later, and signed the cease-fire in 1953.
The riposte: May I suggest that McChrystal is not MacArthur, and Afghanistan is not Korea? Our country in those palmy days was all behind victory in Korea. Barely half of us are for winning in Afghanistan. What the two situations have in common is insubordination of a commander to his civilian chief — and on those merits Obama like Truman will inevitably be judged right. Undoubtedly, to many in the military, the Administration is not up to the job. But there are right ways and wrong ways to express that, and spewing frustration to left-wing journals who wish only for retreat is the wrong way.
I am writing a piece comparing this to Churchill sacking Wavell and Auchinleck from the Middle East Command in 1941-42 — even more of a stretch, since all three had high regard for each other. The most striking comparison there is how our standards have deteriorated.
Wavell and Auchinleck, as Churchill wrote, placed themselves “at the disposal of His Majesty’s Government.” They continued to serve honorably as soldiers or statesman until their postwar retirement.
Apparently the President offered no alternative appointment to McChrystal, as Churchill did with Wavell and Auchinleck.
We must assume it was not Obama’s opinion, as it was Churchill’s, that “We cannot afford to lose such a man from the fighting line.” So McChrystal is expected to leave the Army, have a lucrative speaking tour, write a book with a hefty advance, and perhaps go into politics. (If the last, he might reflect on what happened to candidate MacArthur.)
The lessons taught by Churchill, Wavell and Auchinleck
about loyalty to one’s chief, and to one’s country, remind us
that standards once taken for granted are now almost extinct.
Perhaps General McChrystal will defy the odds, but the
circumstances of his dismissal give us nothing to rejoice
over.
— Richard M.
Langworth CBE
Moultonborough, New Hampshire
Jeffrey Lord
replies:
Richard Langworth is
right about the nit….It was Ridgeway first, then Clark. I sped
to the end without stopping to explain Ridgeway first.
As to the clanger, I would disagree. The comparison here is not McChrystal to MacArthur. While I suppose it’s arguable, I think the era of great astride-the-globe generals ended with World War II. No one since (other than MacArthur in Korea) in any conflict comes close, in my mind, to the giants that were MacArthur, Ike, Patton, Marshall, Bradley etc.
The comparison I was focusing on was not Korea and Afghanistan, but the battle against Communism and Islamic fundamentalism in general. The first struggle lasted from the 1940s to the 1990s. The second, actively operative post-9/11, is a bare 9 years old. Like the first, it has its peace movements and pacifists. It will ebb and flow. But I do believe that every time an “incident” occurs attention concentrates — and surrendering to Islamic fundamentalists under those circumstances is never on the table. Certainly the idea of electing any majority of Americans perceived as willing to surrender to those who wish to impose sharia, keep women uneducated, and essentially convert the country into an Islamic fiefdom where gays are executed etc. is just not in the political cards. While a modern McGovern or McCarthy (Gene) can and surely will win elections from time to time under these circumstances today, as with the Cold War, no one who campaigns in a fashion in which they are perceived by all as urging surrender will ever win an election that has any significance. Even Obama is sending the drones.
Alas, I do think we have a loyalty problem in today’s culture. Something to work on.
As some Englishman once said: “Never give in. Never, never, never, never…”
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Quartermaster| 6.25.10 @ 7:25PM
Santore needs to get out more. Mac's reputation has been well know for many years. The reputation that Santore and his ilk wish to create, that's recent and getting around a bit. So far his own memoirs, and William Manchester's biography have been around for quite a while, and Manchester, who hated MacArthur, ended up writing a fair and balanced book about the man, and doing a good job to boot.
"Braying" something left does constantly. MacArthur had no need to do so. he also had no need to be arrogant. His actions spoke loudly, and well. He served his country, under harsh conditions when Truman couldn't make up his mind what to do, until he fell in with the Kansas City political machine.
While Truman was withing his rights to relieve MacArthur, he was wrong to refuse support sufficient to win in Korea. Truman betrayed the men on the ground by refusing that support, and by tolerating Soviet agents who passed everything they could get from Korea onto Moscow.
That, Mr. Santore, is why MacArthur keeps winning, and history judges the failed Haberdasher and National Guard Arty Captain as a failure.