The sweet nothings Hillary Clinton whispered into the ears of
foreign television audiences went stateside on Friday, as America
media outlets began confirming what the secretary of state first
told an Ecuadoran news channel: the Obama administration is
planning a lawsuit against Arizona's new immigration law.
Publicly, Obama administration lawyers will only admit that a
thorough "review" of SB 1070 is ongoing. But the toothpaste is
out of the tube. Officials in Eric Holder's Justice Department
are quietly giving word that it is a matter of when, not if, they
will seek to subvert Arizona's attempt to protect its people from
porous borders.
On cue, Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard -- the Democratic
gubernatorial candidate -- dropped his promised "vigorous legal
defense" of the law. Goddard opposed the statute and had been
sparring with Gov. Jan Brewer, his likely Republican opponent in
the general election, about how it will be defended.
According to a recent ABC News/Washington Post poll,
Americans side with Arizona by a 58 percent to 41 percent margin.
In late May, Quinnipiac put the numbers at 51 percent to 31
percent. CBS found that 52 percent think the Arizona law is
"about right" while only 28 percent believe it "goes too far."
Another 17 percent said it doesn't go far enough. The breakdown
among Democrats was 46 percent "just right," 40 percent "too
far," and 10 percent "not far enough."
These numbers come in spite of a very public campaign to boycott
Arizona and label the new law a tool of racists, Nazis, and
Communists. "While opinions on immigration are complex,"
Atlantic blogger Chris Good
notes cautiously, "it's reasonable to wonder if the
administration's decision to sue Arizona will turn out to be an
unpopular move."
So reasonable, in fact, that the administration went all the way
to Ecuador to find a suitable launch pad for its Arizona trial
balloon -- and these are people who are as adept at fencing
themselves off from public opinion as they are incompetent at
fencing off the border. Let us hope that the Justice Department's
legal case is based on something more substantial than the
secretary of state's disinformation.
"President Obama has spoken out against the law because he thinks
that the federal government should be determining immigration
policy," said Mrs. Clinton. But Arizona did not create new
immigration violations out of thin air. It took what were already
federal crimes and made them state ones too, while giving local
police a reasonable opportunity to enforce them. In other words,
Arizona followed the federal government's immigration policy.
Even the state's enforcement role is limited. Arizona can't
deport anyone. It can only refer the people it believes are
illegal immigrants to the Immigration and Customs Enforcement
agency. The federal government remains the ultimate arbiter of
who is in the country illegally and still sets immigration
policy.
The federal government's bipartisan dereliction of duty on this
front is precisely what prompted Arizona to act in the first
place. Washington has failed to effectively enforce its own
immigration laws, either at the border or in the workplace. It
has allowed Arizona's illegal population to explode from 300,000
to 560,000 in less than a decade. The feds only partially
completed a security fence, actually diverting inflows into
Arizona and making it the entry point for more than half the
country's illegal immigrants.
When Arizonans tried to do something about it, John Morton,
Obama's head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (which is
under the jurisdiction of Homeland Security), said
his agency might not process suspected illegal immigrants
referred to it under SB 1070. Now, after the president made some
obligatory pro-enforcement noises in a White House meeting with
Governor Brewer, the Obama Justice Department seeks to have
liberal judges overturn the whole thing.
Arizona had already revised the law to address concerns that
Hispanic Americans might be racially profiled. It has already
passed a series of other tough enforcement measures which may
have
helped reduce its illegal population by 18 percent between
2008 and 2009, compared to 7 percent nationally. But the Obama
administration will not give the latest Arizona law a chance to
work or even show that it can be implemented fairly.
Up until now, the political class's biggest contribution to
controlling illegal immigration has been wrecking the American
economy to the point that many illegal immigrants have decided
they are better off at home. No word on where Arizonans are
supposed to go now that the Obama administration has decided they
cannot protect themselves from a constitutionally indifferent
federal government's manifest immigration failures.
About the Author
W. James Antle, III is associate editor of The American Spectator. You can follow him on Twitter at http://Twitter.com/Jimantle.
There appears to be no legal basis to challenge the Arizona law.
The wording of the statute matches federal law. And federal law
does not precluding the states from enforcing a ban on illegal
immigration. As such, this looks more like a political gesture
than a real legal challenge.
Alan Brooks| 6.21.10 @ 8:44AM
Arizona is a pro-business state; if business wants cheap labor,
they will maneuver to get it from illegals-- otherwise businesses
have to invest more in automation.
Tim*| 6.21.10 @ 8:57AM
" The mission of American unions may have been to improve the
working situation for American workers but the BUSINESS is union
dues.
About the only kind of growth in the union business for a long
time has been in unionizing foreign workers. The unions made
especially strong in-roads among illegal workers. Thanks to a
loophole in the 1986 law that made it illegal to hire an illegal
alien, it is perfectly legal for a union to provide membership to
an illegal alien. But the unions are hopeful that they will be
able to get union dues out of a lot more of the 8 million illegal
aliens if an amnesty can be secured for them. "
AMENBRO| 6.21.10 @ 9:22AM
Your observation barely scratches the surface. Demographically
ARIZONA MANUFACTURING hasn't a ghost of chance in entering into
even the final 10 of reason creating & exacerbating the
illegal border problems sir.
Arizona Manufacturing jobs illegals may seek, first off LEFT
THESE SHORES YEARS AGO, EMPHASIS YEARS AGO.
AZ mfg base is historically HI TECH AL; a far cry from what
illegal aliens are even qualified much less looking for as they
trode across the DESERT in AZ.
Chain Migration, as in ILLEGALS JOINING UP WITH OTHER SETTLED
ILLEGALS IN JOB RICH ILLEGAL FRIENDLY geographic locations create
the opportunities in AZ for illegals to disperse NATiONALLY into
other areas of the countrys AL. Why do you think the AZ
authorities busted the stuffins outta so called chauffeur
services in AZ recently. EXACTLY WHAT THE NEW LAWS SEEK TO
DISRUPT AL.
Arizona's major employment sectors for close to 50 years are
aerospace, electronics and semi conductor manufacturing. Import
export Arizona economic substitution strategies have created many
service sector jobs in tourism Al, but mining and agriculture,
key objectives for many extremely unskilled illegal aliens
contribute but are low on the rung of opportunities these people
cross for to begin with.
Simple demographics and Geospatial interaction,
More than half of all illegal immigration into the U.S. comes
through Arizona.
The rate or Velocity that ILLEGALs are crossing the border into
AZ exceeds even a ROBUST Manufacturing MA & PA, FORD, NICHE
or MASS Assemble line ability to even begin to sustain the
numbers AL.
MANUFACTURING BUSINESS could practically fire every single
indigenous AMERICAN and still couldn't employ them all.
Automation, please do some homework.
Alan Brooks| 6.21.10 @ 10:09AM
AMENBRO,
If they all stayed in AZ, you would be correct; but as you
mention, illegals disperse.
I feel guilty, we whites must have hurt you blacks very badly to
make you write in this jivey, bro-in-the 'Hood way. Are you
trying to prove your black manhood by posting these
messages?
Well, we can tell you ARE tough by the way you write!
Alan Brooks| 6.21.10 @ 10:18AM
...you don't understand how it is regional? that AZ's
difficulties can't be separated from N. Mexico's, CA , etc? that
illegal workers can drift?
Alan Brooks| 6.21.10 @ 10:28AM
"AZ mfg base is historically HI TECH AL; a far cry from what
illegal aliens are even qualified much less looking for as they
trode across the DESERT in AZ."
Here you make sense, then you go the other way in denying that
illegals are a cheap alternative to certain automation. But it
isn't what you write, it is how you write that is confusing; you
use higher case FAR too much; you repeat my name many times.
AMENBRO| 6.21.10 @ 10:28AM
"Simple demographics and Geospatial interaction,
More than half of all illegal immigration into the U.S. comes
through Arizona. Lacking in "
READING COMPREHENSION problem, DYSLEXIA MEB-BBe
I bet OBAMA HAS some tuition money somewhere for folks like you
Alan. They might question your racial sensibilities however.
ITSSS, as in MONTY PYTHON,,,just too good.
You apologize for US HONKIES LLLLMMMFFFAAAOOOO.
AMENBRO| 6.21.10 @ 10:18AM
Asinine lack of a responsive excuse for your dipshitted attitude
and lack of knowledge.
I jive ass condescendingly respond in that fashion for the
specious stupidity folks like yo foist upon the board.
ALAN I'm a WHITEBOY alway have been and always wiill.
LAUGH MY HAIRY HINNIE TO DEATH YIPPIE AY KAYE AYE MF,,WE EXPOSE
THe RACIST INHERENT IN FOLKS LIKE YOU . HIGH FIVE STUPID
Alan Brooks| 6.21.10 @ 10:30AM
What are you saying? racist towards latinos-- that isn't the
case.
Alan Brooks| 6.21.10 @ 10:38AM
"I'm a WHITEBOY alway have been and always wiill."
Who suggested you might want to change your race someday? I still
don't get what you want to say: we appear (it is hard to tell
with you) to agree that illegals often disperse after they enter
AZ; but after that it is v. difficult to understand your message.
Are you saying replacing some unskilled labor via automation is
not desirable??
Your style-- not substance-- is what makes reading your comments
extremely disorienting. The high case, mostly, but also your
repeating several motifsunexpectedly-- including your
interlocutor's name.
AMENBRO| 6.21.10 @ 11:21AM
Alan, sir, your honor, your highness if you're into the whole
BREVITY THAING.
For the sake of your significant other I hope your codpiece is
longer than your attention span.
DUUUDE you are making this all together too easy, if it makes you
feel better I apolgize with the realization you are a product of
recent public school education or you suffer from somemtimers at
the least.
Remember ALAN, you started this by insulting Southerners. Can't
catch don't pitch.
More to the point, it gives his (obumblers) base something to
bitch about, never mind the fact that all of these nitwits
wouldn't know the law from their asses. The fact that the law Az.
pushed was in fact a complete mirror of the federal law. This
does not matter to the loudest squeky wheels turning in the mind
mumb minds of their types. Man my grandson asked why they are
against this law, my response was, they don't want laws that
challange their minds, they do what they want no matter if it is
against the law. Obummer, what a punk. Did you get that censors,
I'm calling your punk out.
Derrick Lough| 6.23.10 @ 1:13AM
I like that comment. Agreed friend. Agreed.
Walking Horse| 6.21.10 @ 4:04PM
Let's cut to the chase. The reason Obama & Co. are in high
dudgeon about Arizona has nothing to do with constitutional
delegation of powers. I has everything to do with the fact that
Arizona might actually *enforce* a law that is virtually
identical to a Federal law that the Federal Government will not
enforce.
darcy| 6.21.10 @ 4:15PM
The federal government should be sued and O impeached for failing
to enforce immigration laws on the books already, for failing the
government's chief function, to protect American citizens.
Meanwhile, here in soAZ, our border police departments have been
put on notice by the Mexican drug cartels that our police
officers are now targets of assassination -- just like the
cartels are doing to law enforcement members in Mexic0.
And -- our border patrol ROE dictate that agents may not use
their firearms until they have been shot at; handy info for
invaders/criminals to have, who have adapted by throwing LARGE
rocks and using vehicles to run down bp agents and ram their
vehicles.
And when do you think CNN and cohorts will report this story?
Appleby| 6.21.10 @ 6:43AM
This is an attempt to keep the *Hispanic* vote on side;
considering the precipitous fall in his ratings, King Zero can
hardly afford to neglect even illegal voters who still like him.
Paul Ashley| 6.21.10 @ 7:27AM
Typical of the community-organizing Left, rather than actually
solving a problem, they sue someone.
Darin| 6.21.10 @ 7:32AM
Maybe Governor Brewer can hire the New Black Panthers to provide
security.
Seriously, this whole situation is nuts. Arizona is doing what
the federal government refuses to do. In response, the federal
government is looking to sue the state. Perhaps Arizona should
counter-sue on the basis that the federal government is not
performing its Constitutional mandate of "providing for the
common defense" by not defending Arizona's international border.
August Hinton| 6.24.10 @ 10:11PM
I agree wholeheartedly we no longer claim to be a sovereign
nation with out secured borders.To refuse to secure our borders
is treason, Arizona should counter-sue on the basis that the
federal government is not performing its Constitutional mandate
of "providing for the common defense" by not defending Arizona's
international border.
It is a no brainer our borders must be secured
JP| 6.21.10 @ 7:47AM
The President and his party can easily solve this problem
-rescind and repeal those portions of our immigration and border
enforcement laws they find offensive. But to do that takes
courage, not to mention a bit of insanity. So the President and
his party continue their absurdity of non-enforcement,
harrassment of reasonable dissent, not to mention the
continuation of our "open borders". Spin can only get you so far.
At some point in time events catch-up.
Mick Lee| 6.21.10 @ 8:15AM
Well, Shamus, I'd like to agree with you but liberals are nothing
if not imaginative. While there is no legal basis to challenge
Arizona’s law that doesn't stop them from inventing one. Heaven
knows what it will be but that is because such challenges make
little apparent sense.
One must consider the current example of California's "Gay
Marriage" amendment to the state constitution. The amendment went
through the long and difficult process required just to appear on
the ballot. It won approval from the majority of Californians.
Yet now, that amendment to the California Constitution is being
fought in court on the basis that the amendment to the
constitution is unconstitional to that constitution. One can
reasonable ask "isn't that what amendments do?" Don't they often
take objectionable evolutions in legal developments and rectify
them according to the will of a free and self-governing people?
With liberals, the argument isn't the argument. The present legal
challenge to California's amendment is a "form" of an argument
which is only a means to an objective. This "form of an argument"
is a principle which may never have been invoked in the past and
may never be invoked again. That is because consistency is found
in the objective. How they get there is OK as long as they get
there.
In the case of Arizona, the real of objective is not the
illegals. The real goal is more voters for the Democrat Party and
the illegals are the means to that end. Rights Smights. Civil
rights of the illegals? They only exist at the pleasure of the
Democrats. If all the illegals suddenly began to vote mostly
Republican, look for the Democrats, the progressive churches, and
the "pro-immigrant" organizations to turn on a dime and demand
three separate fences along the border with mines fields in
between. An infantry division or two wouldn't be a bad idea
either.
Louis Jenkins| 6.21.10 @ 8:25AM
The Federal Gov. will not rescend the laws they have created.
When have they ever done that? Rather, they will continue to add
laws to the "books" and they will remain unenforced. Arizona's
Governor will have to go it alone, even though she has plenty of
moral support from the other states. What has my panties in a wad
is the lack of Federal support for Arizona and their efforts to
limit illegal immigration. If the Feds don't support Arizona then
who does? Those people, brave no doubt, will have to go it alone
and may very well succeed. The only way for the Feds to win their
case would be if the courts are biased. God bless the soverign
state of Arizona.
Bram| 6.21.10 @ 8:35AM
We desperately need a House of Repeal added to our federal
government.
Bram| 6.21.10 @ 8:33AM
Does Obama realize the President is the nations chief
law-enforcement officer and commander-in-chief? Not the chief
legislator or tin-pot-dictator with the power to make and enforce
laws as he pleases?
darcy| 6.21.10 @ 3:58PM
No.
Frank Knutson| 6.21.10 @ 11:53PM
Obviously.
August Hinton| 6.24.10 @ 10:32PM
It is my belief that President Obama has an extreme case of
delusions of grandeur and does imagine himselfto be some kinda
god. Proof positive without knowing as much as a recruit in the
Army about the strategy of war he second guesses a four star
general as how a war should be fought. He should realise it takes
more than a title to be a real commander in chief. Admit he
doesn't know how to win,take advice and get out of the way.
Petronius| 6.21.10 @ 8:40AM
Immigration and the law are no longer the issue. The Demoncrat
left is determined to teach the world that they are God.
darcy| 6.21.10 @ 3:58PM
Yes.
southernsue| 6.21.10 @ 8:53AM
obama is at war with the american people. that is the only answer
to why he is governing the way he is. remember, obama is not half
american black, he is half kenyan muslim. all muslims are
laughing as they pray to their allah.
pray for our country and be at the polls in november and vote out
all demonrats and the republicans that vote with them.
Brian Mc| 6.21.10 @ 8:54AM
A simple news release:
From this day forward, the Federal Government will enforce it's
southern border utilizing the same laws Mexico uses to enforce
its southern border.
LoisC| 6.21.10 @ 8:56AM
PLEASE, can't someone find a way to impeach or in some other way
get this idiot out of office. Him and his heard of Congressional
sheep are a total embarrassment to America the great. The whole
world is laughing at us as we try and deal with this inept
pretender the useful idoits here have elected. If there is anyone
in Congress with any integrity left, please impeach this guy on
grounds that he hates America and is a pure Socialist. Oh and all
you Socialist, get the he!l out of my country, go to Russia or
Argentina where you will fit in. Bozo should be supporting
Arizona, Arizona should not have to do the job the Fed is
supposed to be doing, keeping America safe for AMERICANS the
federal government should be keeping America safe. IMPEACH OBAMA
NOW!!
PJ| 6.21.10 @ 9:44AM
Take a look at this
article:http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/06/is_obamas_bp_shakedown_an_impe.html.
Food for thought!
ggoblue| 6.21.10 @ 7:40PM
once we have the house we can hold hearings into the usages of
the stimulus money....there will be billions in graft there...
we might not want to impeach such a despised opponent tho...even
the democrats will hate him after november....
Anthony| 6.21.10 @ 9:01AM
I wonder if Hillary read the 20 page bill, or like Holder,
Napolitano, and the empty suit in chief, merely opined without
knowledge, which is de rigueur with this administration.
Madame Hillary is "all in" with the anti-American left, and she
has just kissed her presidential asperations good-bye.
Obama said it all weeks ago, "America is not defined by its
borders".
MEMO TO OBAMA: America is not defined by its radical left,
either. November is on the horizon. America's flirtation with
Marxism will soon be over.
Hillary had best brush up on her cookie recipes, she'll be back
in the kitchen in no time, where making a mess of things still
produces good results.
David| 6.21.10 @ 9:59AM
Very simple way to get California to support Arizona's new law.
Have Arizona create an amnesty program - for 30 days any illegal
alien may turn themselves in. If they do so they will be given a
voucher. The voucher will allow them to get a free bus ticket to
San Francisco, plus a box lunch and $100. The voucher will let
them avoid deportation until they are able to get on the bus. SF
will suddenly have an influx of thousands of illegal aliens that
they will have to support and deal with. Will the liberal
citizens of this city continue to boycott Arizona or will
economics cause them to pull their heads out?? Time will tell.
RichardK| 6.21.10 @ 6:33PM
David. You give Californians, especially Californians in San
Francisco, way too much intellectual/economic credit. They are
already 20 billion $s in the whole for the upcoming year. They
have 1/2 trillion dollars in unfunded govt. pensions. What would
a few more illegals cost?
UpChuck.Liberals| 6.21.10 @ 11:09PM
FYI, not all Kalifornians are Dumb$hit liberals without a brain.
The 14th Amendment needs to go, it served it's purpose 100 years
ago. That's step one, making it much more hazardous to cross the
border would be the next one.
Frank Knutson| 6.21.10 @ 11:59PM
A Marine with orders to "Fire for effect" stationed every hundred
yards along the border would be a good start.
Joe| 6.21.10 @ 10:04AM
Hillary simply continues to push the Progressive party
agenda...and "immigration reform" - knowing the deleterious
effects of such a move. This has been her modus for decades. She
is as much a liberal, Marxist force as the good ol' president.
Barry admitted that he is probably a one-term president and this
hag has already stated that she is, too. They will leave us
holding the bag if we don't stand up for rational, effective laws
to enforce what is ours.
I am not happy about ceding 90 miles of our border to Mexico
already. To hell with Hillary.
bluecollarbytes| 6.21.10 @ 10:09AM
At least Obama has found something he's willing to fight for: the
right of the Federal guvmint to force 'doing nothing' about
illegal immigration, on the the rest of us.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡| 6.21.10 @ 10:12AM
Here’s an abridged version of this Arizona Law for the benefit of
all those kommies in the beavisbud bureaucracy who can’t handle
reading its full twenty or so pages: “Law enforcement officials
of the State of Arizona, while being more careful to respect
Constitutional Rights than specified by corresponding federal
law, are hereby empowered to enforce said Federal Law.”
This leads me to the following questions: 1) If the courts rule
in favor of the obummer dictatorship, will the Federal Law it
enforces also be tossed in the trash? 2) Might this be their true
objective?
Gill O’Teen ✝✡ gill.Oteen07041776@gmail.com
Go Galt!
Only 944 days to go.
Redneck53| 6.21.10 @ 10:16AM
Majority rules my butt!! Anytime the majority wins anything in
this country, in favor of AZ, the marriage fight in CA, whatever,
there will be a liberal minority that wants to sue to get it
turned over. With the courts the way they are now, they win.
America, as it was, is gone. The lunatics are running the asylum,
(into 3rd qorld status).
Pointy Head| 6.21.10 @ 10:17AM
It is a Federal Offense to Hold up a Post Office or a Bank that's
a member of the Federal Reserve. Nevertheless, local police have
the power of arrest and state courts can try such offenders for
armed robbery. Similarly the Arizona law is an example of joint
jurisdiction.
Chisco| 6.21.10 @ 10:35AM
I am so hoping that this will be brought before a judge with the
courage to actually slap down "the obama team", and rule that
Arizona's law MIRRORS the U.S. immigration code regarding illegal
immigration!!
michaelle| 6.21.10 @ 10:46AM
I hope Obamie and thugs keep finding this out until they are worn
down
michigander_sandusky| 6.21.10 @ 10:48AM
Even though I support the AZ law I'm glad the Obama
administration is suing. Their suit will only serve to further
demonstrate to the American people how out of touch they are with
commonsense and reality.
Mikee_T| 6.27.10 @ 9:35AM
Michigander....Another moron yuppie, no doubt. I'm guessing a
white female too.....(primarily responsible for the Obama
administration being in office, in my opinion). You won't be
happy until we don't even remotely resemble this once supreme
sovereign nation....you just completely contradicted yourself in
one paragraph....did you vote for Obama ? I'm sure you did.....
Jim O'Brien| 6.21.10 @ 1:02PM
Barack Obama is at war:
1) He's at war against the people of Arizona, and against all the
citizens of the United States, who seek to protect themselves
from illegal immigrants, Mexican drug gangs, and terrorists
infiltrating the U.S. via the Mexican border
2) He's at war against the people of New York, and of all the
United States, who do not want non-citizen enemy combatants (the
terrorists) to enjoy the rights of U.S. citizens in our
courts
3) He's at war against all the people of the United States, who
demand freedom to make their own medical care and health
insurance decisions
4) He's at war against the people of the Gulf coast, who he has
not only failed to help, but has actually hindered in their
attempts to stop oil from washing up on their shores
5) He's at war against all the people of the United States, who
know that radical Islamists are the murderers of thousands of
American civilians and soldiers, and the murderers of thousands
of Israelis, Europeans, Asians, Iraqis, and Africans, including
other Muslims
6) He's at war against all the people of the United States, who
know that America is an exceptional country which has defended
freedom around the globe for the last 100 years
7) He's at war against all the people of the United States, who
want far less government spending and substantially reduced
taxes
8) He's at war against all the people of the United States, who
know that the Constitution should not be violated by Congress or
subjected to arbitrary changes by biased, inexperienced and
incompetent judges on the Supreme Court
9) He's at war against all the people of the United States, who
know that our Founders included the Bill of Rights for sound
reasons, including our right to keep and bear arms, our right to
our private property, and our right to free speech
10) He's at war against all the people of the United States, who
know that making unilateral nuclear defense concessions to Russia
and the rest of the world is a foolish and dangerous path
11) He's at war against all the people of the United States, who
know that "global warming" (aka "climate change") is a hoax
designed to grab political power and increase taxes
12) He's at war against all the States by seeking to burden them
with Medicaid expenses in violation of their sovereign
status
13) He's at war against all the people of the United States who
prosper by free enterprise and personal freedom, not by union
thugs, government bureaucrats, excessive controls, and violations
of the Constitution
14) He's at war against all the people of the United States who
know we are all created equal, but also know that in a free
society we have unequal outcomes
15) He's at war against the United States and the Constitution,
and therefore is a treacherous impostor
Obama lied when he swore to "preserve, protect, and defend the
Constitution..." Obama is unfit to serve.
Spoonman| 6.21.10 @ 3:45PM
In refernce to your #4, Oblama actually wants the gulf coast
states to be severaly hurt by the oil release. In fact, the worse
the disaster the better for his efforts to eliminate offshore
drilling, or any drilling. Its too dangerouse, too polluting, not
safe enough - stop the drilling and build windmills to save the
world!
darcy| 6.21.10 @ 8:42PM
This drilling moratorium is as much about shifting profits to
pertrobas and George Soros as it is about anything else. Never
let a crisis go to waste when leveraging it can stuff the pockets
of your kingmaker.
Always, always, always, in politics, follow the money.
Mikee T| 6.27.10 @ 9:48AM
Jim O'Brien:
You have "accurately" summarized what this guy is (Obama). You
are obviously a great citizen and I commend you......and agree on
everything you cited here.......
Anonymous| 6.21.10 @ 1:03PM
Obamites are knee-jerk liberals. They have not even read the law
or know the law, and they instinctly brand the law as racist.
These people are supposed to be "enlightened." Instead of
enlightening us, they shut down any debate in the name of
Political Correctness. This administration is so ideological to
the point of being ridiculous, and perhaps even dangerous.
Ross Wolf| 6.21.10 @ 1:38PM
Is Obama’s refusal to secure our U.S./Mexican Border from
millions of invading Illegal Immigrants—by design?
Despite strong evidence that heavily armed Mexican drug cartels
continuously cross Arizona’s border smuggling drugs, attack
Arizona police and commit crimes that threaten all Americans,
Obama has vehemently refused to protect Arizona’s border with
sufficient troops. Despite millions of unemployed Americans have
to compete with 12 million illegal immigrants for jobs, Obama
won’t lift a finger to stop the gushing flow of Mexicans that
24/7 illegally enter the United States via Arizona. Increasingly
States are moving toward bankruptcy, and can’t afford the costs
of illegal immigrant medical services, education and
incarceration of illegal immigrants that commit crimes? Before
addressing why Obama refused to sufficiently help Arizona protect
its State/U.S. border, one might ask why Obama in the midst of a
financial crisis, wants to burden U.S. taxpayers by making Puerto
Rico a State, often referred to as Welfare Island.
Most Americans find it unbelievable the Obama administration is
filing a suit to stop Arizona’s illegal immigration bill SB 1070.
But it is believable when you consider Obama’s Socialist/Marxist
constituency intends to use millions of illegal immigrants to
force unaffordable public services on States and U.S. Government
that will financially overwhelm and cripple government
infrastructures, problematically destroying the United States.
American won’t die immediately, in the interim Congress to
forestall an economic collapse will have to hugely raise
Citizens’ taxes, ironically that will feed leftist mandates that
Citizens’ share their wealth with the masses. Increasingly it
appears Obama intends to force a form of Marist/socialism on
Americans—even if that means destroying the U.S. economy. The
longer Obama can keep the Mexican border open, millions more
illegal immigrants will come to America to financially bleed U.S.
Taxpayers and governments dry, politically changing the direction
of America toward Socialism. If leftists succeed in spending
America into bankruptcy, it is foreseeable millions of disparate
Americans might accept, even welcome a hybrid form of
Marxist/socialism.
Recently the Obama administration took legal steps to prevent an
Arizona illegal immigration law taking affect that would
criminally charge employers who knowingly hired illegal
immigrants; leftists consider it collateral damage of their cause
that illegal immigrants take American jobs. America’s greatest
threat is not from foreign enemies, but the Marxists malignancy
that is spreading—in U.S. Government. Consider what Obama has
already accomplished. During the worst recession since the Great
Depression Obama’s has forced (unaffordable) health insurance,
new taxes and regulatory costs on U.S. Citizens and businesses
that will inhibit investment and hiring of new employees for
years. Obama’s forced heath insurance costs on Americans that
will disqualify millions of self employed middle class home
buyers qualifying for home mortgages; qualified home buyers are
desperately needed in this recession to support and stabilize
home values that secure trillions in bank held mortgages so banks
don’t fail. Assuming obama’s intention is to help the U.S.
Economy, it appears he is doing most everything one would do to
destroy it.
Purpleguy| 6.21.10 @ 3:59PM
"Despite strong evidence that heavily armed Mexican drug cartels
continuously cross Arizona’s border smuggling drugs, attack
Arizona police and commit crimes that threaten all Americans" -
would you suggest we go to war with Mexico? Perhaps we could then
annex the entire country and only have to patrol the tiny little
border with Guatemala then?
Occam's Tool| 6.21.10 @ 8:03PM
Dear Purpleguy:
The suggestion is that we should be as tough on Mexican illegals
as Mexico is on Guatemalan illegals. That's all.
I, by the way, adopted two kids from Guatemala, who are now
legally American citizens. I waited in line and filled out my
paperwork. I have a lot of problems with gatecrashers,
particularly with guns. I don't believe the fellow was suggesting
war with Mexico; enforcing the borders properly and rigorously
should be enough.
DaveS| 6.21.10 @ 8:10PM
No, not war - please, may we use Mexico's immigration law as own
own?
Purpleguy| 6.22.10 @ 8:04AM
Didn't you mother ever teach you that just because "Johnny" does
it, doesn't mean you have to?
Oldefarte| 6.21.10 @ 1:59PM
This Department of Injustice's action is deplorable and
anti-American. Anyone capable of taking a vacation this year
should consider doing so in the state of Arizona!!!!!
Steve Abrams| 6.21.10 @ 2:04PM
THE USA DOES NOT OWE A JOB TO EVERY "BEANER " WHO CAN JUMP A
FENCE OR SWIM A RIVER. It does owe AMERICANS the certainty of
walking American streets in safety. Obama can go to Hades. The
faster the better.
Karnick| 6.21.10 @ 2:07PM
I don't really understand the furor over Arizona's immigration
policy. Don't they have the right to enforce whatever laws
regarding immigration, however, they want? The 14th amendment
seems to make policy regarding citizenship pretty clear, and
Arizona doesn't seem to be violating anyone's due process in
their enforcement of this amendment.
I guess I just don't see anything Constitutionally wrong with
this law. Can someone help me out here.
Purpleguy| 6.21.10 @ 3:57PM
The 14th Amendment does talk about citizens, but it also mentions
all persons, without regard to citizenship.
"nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or
property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person
within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." - This
is the crux of the issue ... is the law being applied equally to
all persons in AZ? Does it apply equally to all blond, blue-eyed
types, as well as brown skinned, young, old, male/female? It's
supposed to, sure - but, just exactly how do you prove that, when
the application of the law can be very subjective?
And, in addition, one provision of the law allows for an
individual to report someone as illegal and if the authorities
don't respond positively, they can be sued for non-action. That
does smack of the Gestapo tactics of neighbors reporting
neighbors, doesn't it?
The Supreme Court has ruled that the Congressional power to
regulate naturalization, in Article 1, Section 8, includes the
power to regulate immigration (see, for example, Hampton v. Mow
Sun Wong, 426 U.S. 88 [1976]). It would not make sense to allow
Congress to pass laws to determine how an immigrant becomes a
naturalized resident if the Congress cannot determine how that
immigrant can come into the country in the first place.
There is also an argument that immigration is an implied power of
any sovereign nation, and as such, the federal government has the
power to regulate immigration because the United States is a
sovereign nation. While it is true that the United States is a
sovereign nation, and it may be true that all sovereign nations
have some powers inherent in that status, it is not necessary to
determine if immigration is such a power that does not even
require constitutional mention, because the Naturalization Clause
handles the power.
In other words, mmigration law is the sole responsibility of the
Federal Government, according to the Constitution. So what was
the purpose of the law, besides political? It won't pass
Constitutional scrutiny and strict constructionist theory.
Tim*| 6.21.10 @ 7:27PM
" Kris W. Kobach, a law professor who helped to draft the Arizona
statute, plausibly contends that the Arizona law does not
contravene the preemption doctrine because it provides for
"concurrent" enforcement of federal law. Kobach has explained
that the framers of the legislation were keenly aware of the
preemption doctrine and took pains to craft it in a manner that
would insulate it from a preemption challenge. In particular, the
statute declares that it "shall be implemented in a manner
consistent with federal laws regulating immigration."
Tim*| 6.21.10 @ 7:29PM
" In its most recent decision on preemption, Levine v. Wyeth
(2009), the Court declared that "[w]e start with the assumption
that the historic police powers of the States were not to be
superceded by the Federal Act unless that was the clear and
manifest purpose of Congress." Every state has an inherent
"police power," which allows the state to legislate for the
health, safety, morals, and welfare of its people.
In enacting its immigration statute, the Arizona legislature was
exercising its police power in a reasonable attempt to protect
its citizens from the many baneful effects of illegal
immigration. In particular, the legislation should help to
ameliorate crime, protect the natural environment, ease the
ravages of the recession, promote social stability, and encourage
respect for the rule of law. "
Purpleguy| 6.22.10 @ 8:02AM
"In particular, the legislation should help to ameliorate crime,
protect the natural environment, ease the ravages of the
recession, promote social stability, and encourage respect for
the rule of law. " - are you sure you're not a closet liberal?
darcy| 6.21.10 @ 8:36PM
Sovereign this and sovereign that. The PEOPLE are sovereign --
the state has ZERO power not granted it by the consent of the
governed.
We shall see who is sovereign.
Kickstand| 6.24.10 @ 3:01PM
immigration law defines who and under what circumstances someone
may enter this country. The border patrol's duty is to enforce
those laws. After someone circumvents the law and the border
patrol they become common criminals.
Arizona has every constitutional right to arrest criminals in
their jurisdiction.
They then turn them over to ICE to again adjudicate the
immigration statues.
Where in the constitution does it say a state may not arrest
criminals.
I would suggest, before deciding constitutional law, it might
behove you to read it.
Steve Abrams| 6.21.10 @ 2:10PM
PS...If I see another Mexican wave his national flag on American
soil...I'm gonna puke. If your 756066 square mile TOILET/HOME is
sooo great, then swim-the-Rio/jump-the-fence... back there ASAP.
Ronald Howard| 6.21.10 @ 2:16PM
Most Americans have no idea what is taking place in Arizona.
Americans living in this state, within 60 to 80 miles of the
Arizona/Mexican border, have for years now been terrorized and
have pleaded for help to stop the daily invasion of illegal
border crossers. The people living in the southern part of this
American state are living in a war zone. Most of them live in
rural areas, small ranches and isolated homes. The illegal's and
drug smugglers are using these areas as highways.
One rancher testifed at a senate hearing that 300 to 1,200 people
A DAY come across his ranch, vandalizing his property, stealing
his vehicles, cutting his fences and destroying the habitat with
their trails and layups. In the last two months he has found 17
dead bodies and two Koran bibles. However, as outrageous as those
problems are they pale in comparison with the murders by these
illegal's. Rancher Rob Krantz, murdered by the drug cartels,
Border Patrol agents shot and wounded and shot and killed.
Another rancher testified that drugs are brought across his ranch
in a military operation. A point man with an AK-47 type weapon
goes in front. 1/2 mile back are more guards fully armed with
automatic weapons. 1/2 mile behind them are the drug carriers
behind them more guards with automatic weapons. These people are
violent and they will kill anyone who gets in their way.
It unbelievable that our Government continues to let these
conditions exist. Now the President promises to send 1,200
National Guard troopers to the border. What a great guy. That
works out to about 1 trooper every mile and a half. Yeah right
that one really works! What about the Border Patrol? The Border
Patrol is not on this border. They have set up 60 miles away with
check points that do nothing to stop the invasion. The Border
Patrol is undermanned and undergunned. They run around trying to
catch the illegal's, if they do, all that happens most of the
time is that the illegal's are taken back across the border so
they can try again.
Federal prisons have over 35% illegal's and 20% of Arizona's
prisons are filled with illegal's. In the last few years 80% of
our law enforcement officers killed or wounded have been by
illegal's.
The majority of people coming over recently are people we should
be worried about. The ranchers
testified the people they now seeing are not the same as people
in the past, those looking for work. We know the coyotes will
bring over anyone who has the money to pay. Can anyone say
terrorist? Count on it, these bastards have already brought
terrorists the United States. The lame stream media has distorted
what SB 1070 will do. SB 1070 is built on Federal law and in fact
isn't even as strict as the Federal law. It will give law
enforcement the ability, when there is probable cause, to
determine if a person is here legally. Federal law is very clear.
If you are in this country on a VISA, you must have your papers
on you at all times. In Arizona all you need to show you are
legal citizen is a drivers license, MVD identification card,
Native American Card or a military I.D. card. Anyone needs these
documents to vote, get a hunting or fishing license etc. So
nothing has been added to the Federal law. No one is going to be
stopped walking down the street or going with the kids to get an
ice cream (take note Mr. President). The Progressives who are
currently in power in D.C. are angry because we dare to try to do
something to protect our citizens. Our current President and his
Administration lie like hell and tell us they want to protect the
border and have a reformed immigration policy. They don't. What
they want is open borders and ammnesty They are pimping for the
Hispanic vote, which they believe they will
get with that policy. In the mean time Americans are being
terrorized, the border is wide open, our schools and hospitals
are spending more money than they can afford, Arizona like most
states and our Country is broke, our prisons are full of
illegal's and all this bunch of incompetent boobs in D.C. can
think to do is sue Arizona for trying to protect itself. God help
and bless this country, the current administration will not.
wolf| 6.21.10 @ 2:17PM
the number "12 million" illegal aliens seems to be decreasing ..
i have seen 11 million and in some reports as low as 10
million...
perhaps this will be easier to pass amnesty for 10 million and
the voters will except that number rather than the REAL number of
over 20 million and counting...and then the real number will be
at least millions higher as our "new" citizens will then bring
their families to their new home
Purpleguy| 6.21.10 @ 2:24PM
"Americans side with Arizona by a 58 percent to 41 percent
margin" -- so now we're running the country by polls, is it?
Wasn't the BIG deal about GW that he wasn't checking the polls
before he made decisions?
Now, all of a sudden because it's Obama, the polls matter?
PurpleLips| 6.21.10 @ 3:50PM
It only matters at election time. Our Kenyan President has this
nasty habit of supporting laws that 60% of Americans hate. Of
course, he didn't run on that platform. But then again, 30% of
the voters would have voted for him even he admitted to consuming
a pound of blow on a daily basis. South Carolina's primary was a
good example of that.
Tim*| 6.21.10 @ 4:03PM
Yeah , polls matter.
That's why Democrat Candidates are runnin' away from Obama now.
Oldefarte| 6.22.10 @ 11:04AM
No, NITWIT, the polls don't matter...BUT THE LAW DOES. The
government has a FIDUCIARY DUTY to ENFORCE THE LAWS. If you or YA
BOY disagrees with said laws, then get off your lazy backside and
have the LEGISLATIVE branch of the government amend or change the
disagreed with law[s]!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mikee_T| 6.27.10 @ 10:01AM
Purpleguy:
Stop cutting and pasting constitutional text, you don't
understand it and you interpret it like the moron in the white
house. A radical left wing lawyer / organizer that is suddenly
commander in chief. God help us all....Polls merely show the
majority and what they want. Period... I'm guessing you work for
a non profit that administers hundreds of entitlement programs
through tax payer funded grants.......atrocious...absolutely
atrocious....
This site empathizes the danger of third world population growth
to our future and urges action, particularly from young
Americans. As a long-time student of this problem in California,
I present facts and quotes with a new slant. Did you know that
Senator Dianne Feinstein testified before the Judiciary Committe
in 1995 that California "is an immigration disaster"?
Maggie,
Let's face it, American women don't do Motherhood anymore. Like
everything else, we outsource that problem to foreigners. We
can't even count on Catholics anymore. They are about as sterile
as the Protestants.
You want to keep America WASPish, stay home and have babies -lots
of them. Throw your birth control pills out the window and have
sex for WASPdom. The 3rd World still knows how to have children
(just go to Yemen), and they know how to cross a river.
darcy| 6.21.10 @ 8:30PM
Motherhood is not a "problem." I know countless women actively
engaged in the pursuit. True, motherhood is disparaged in our
mass culture outlets; but let me tell you this: we are a force to
be reckoned with, for we are the ones molding the next generation
-- and they will NOT be commie-compliant.
gearjammer| 6.21.10 @ 3:36PM
I live in a zip code that gives Obama 98 per cent approval I am
sure. At my super market I rub elbows with the Brown University
crowd, RISD, our rich professional democrats, a lot of true
believer middle class democrat types and so on. There is a large
display of Arizona Iced Tea in front of the cash out lines. I
make a great show of stocking up each time I am in the market. I
get a lot of nasty looks and frowns but not in any direct sense,
maybe because I am a pretty rugged fella and wear an ARMY tank
top most of the time. I am waiting for somebody to make my day
and berate me for my consumer choice. Until then, Arizona Iced
Tea , muchos, Nantucket Nectars, nada.
Purpleguy| 6.21.10 @ 3:41PM
Except that Arizona Tea doesn't come from Arizona...
Purple Lips| 6.21.10 @ 3:53PM
You are correct. Arizona Tea is brewed in Brooklyn -probably by a
bunch of illegal... I mean undocumented aliens. Heck, I bet the
bottles were manufactured in China, and the marketing was done in
Bombay. Does it really matter whether it is call Arizona or
Calcutta Tea? Heck, most of the world's tea comes from India.
FTM| 6.21.10 @ 4:05PM
I have a job in a tier I automotive plastic injection molding
plant. In order to be hired in this plant I had to show two of
three pieces of identification proving that I am an American
citizen. I had to show a birth certificate, a drivers licence or
a passport, two of the three. I had to furnish to the employer
two of three of these formal identification documents. Two, count
'em out of three.
I am told that employers are required by federal law to verify
the citizenship status of a potential employee before hiring that
employee. Now, if that's the case then how is it that an illegal
can get a job anywhere? If that's the case then when the
Immigration folks show up at a business and bust their hourly
labor for being illegal then how is it that the owners and
managers of the businesses aren't hauled off to jail?
This is the law isn't it?
Don't try hiding behind political party either because the
Republican party is every bit as guilty as the Democrat party on
this issue.
Now, if according to the law I have to prove my citizenship
status before a company can legally hire me then how the hell is
it that the Commander-In-Chief, the President of the United
States of America doesn't have to prove his citizenship? How can
that be?
The good thing about the ultimate disintegration of the United
States is that all this crap won't matter any more. No more cops,
no more judges or jails, no more do-gooders trying to tell me
what I should do next. No more idiot lawyers, no more idiot
juries. No more idiotic jury duty. No more bungling, dishonest,
double speaking politicians. All we will have to do is to wait
around for a couple of months for all the gub'ment dependant
freeloaders and the civil service, political class and the ivory
tower elites to starve to death and then we can set ourselves
about rebuilding the country.
Montana| 6.21.10 @ 5:01PM
The Tea Bag Party are just “haters not debaters” or as others
have dubbed them “screamers not dreamers”, with their failed
attempts at stopping Healthcare reform, they say they respect the
Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of
Independence but they do not mind passing laws, through weak
Governors (no one voted for this crazy) who only cares about
getting elected Governor, on the backs of undocumented workers,
that will not pass Constitution muster.
Brewer signed into law;
1. S.B. 1070,
2. No permit conceal weapons law,
3. The famous Birthers law,
4. Banning Ethnic studies law,
5. Could she be behind the Mural in Prescott, Arizona, ordered to
be whiten,
6. On deck to pass, no citizenship to babies born to undocumented
workers,
7. If she can read she should look up Arizona’s House Bill 2779
from two years ago (which was un-constitution and failed when
legally challenged),
8. The boycotted Martin Luther King Day, what idiots don’t want
another holiday? Yes, you guessed it Arizona.
Well Arizona, you can boycott new holidays and keep passing crazy
laws and the rest of us will continue to challenged them in a
court of law and continue to add cities to our Boycott of your
state.
I real cannot believe anything that comes out of Brewer’s mouth,
in an interview she first said her father had died in Germany
fighting the Nazi in World War II (war ended 1945) but of course
we find out the truth that father was never in Germany and died
in California in 1955. But we are suppose to believe everything
else she says, right! No one voted for you for Governor, yet you
keep listening to the tiny brains of the crazies and signing into
law everything that comes into their feeble minds, it only make
you look dumb, stupid or racist, or maybe all three.
As for the Tea Bag Party, their phony patriotism is sickening;
they are just racists going by another name. We all know you are
just itching to put a sheet on their head? Let’s face it the
Republicans had eight years to deal with health care,
immigration, energy (remember Cheney’s secret meetings with oil
companies where loosening regulation and oversight were sealed),
climate change and financial oversight and governance and they
failed. It appears that the Republican Party is only good at
starting wars (two in eight years, with fat contracts to friends
of Cheney/Bush) but not at winning wars as seen by the continuing
line of body bags that keep coming home. The Republicans party
will continue turned inward to their old fashion obstructionist
party (and their Confederacy appreciation roots) because they
continue to allow a small portions (but very loud portion) of
their party of “birthers, baggers and blowhards” to rule their
party. I will admit that this fringe is very good at playing
“Follow the Leader” by listening to their dullard leaders, Beck,
Hedgecock, Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush, Savage, Sarah Bailin, Orly
Taitz, Victoria Jackson, Michele Bachmann and the rest of the
Blowhards and acting as ill programmed robots (they have already
acted against doctors that perform abortions).
The Birthers and the Tea Bag party crowd think they can scare,
intimidate and force others to go along with them by comments
like “This time we came unarmed”, let me tell you something not
all ex-military join the fringe militia crazies who don’t pay
taxes and run around with face paint in the parks playing
commando, the majority are mature and understand that the world
is more complicated and grey than the black and white that these
simpleton make it out to be and that my friend is the point. The
world is complicated and people like Hamilton, Lincoln, and
Roosevelt believed that we should use government a little to
increase social mobility, now it’s about dancing around the claim
of government is the problem. The sainted Reagan passed the
biggest tax increase in American history and as a result federal
employment increased, but facts are lost when mired in mysticism
and superstition. For a party that gave us Abraham Lincoln, it is
tragic that the ranks are filled with too many empty suits and
the crazy Birthers who have not learned that the way our courts
work is that you get a competent lawyer, verifiable facts and
present them to a judge, if the facts are real and not half baked
internet lies, then, and only then, do you proceed to trial. The
Birthers seem to be having a problem with their so called
“Internet facts”. Let’s face it no one will take the Birthers
seriously until they win a case, but until then, you will
continue to appear dumb, crazy or racist, or maybe all three. I
heard that Orly Taitz now wants to investigate the “Republican
2009 Summer of Love” list: Assemblyman, Michael D. Duvall (CA),
Senator John Ensign (NV), Senator Paul Stanley (TN), Governor
Mark Stanford (SC), Board of Ed Chair, and Kristin Maguire AKA
Bridget Keeney (SC), she wants to re-establish a family values
party, that is like saying that the Catholic Church cares about
the welling being of children in their care, too late for that.
Yee Haw!
Tim*| 6.21.10 @ 5:33PM
Apparently , Montana is upset .
WAKE UP| 6.21.10 @ 9:04PM
No so upset that didn't forget to trot out "racist', instead of
THINKING.
patriot| 6.25.10 @ 8:56PM
can you really be this stupid ? what are you ,black or brown?
this sure doesn't sound like a true American,more like a
TRAITOR!!!! America first ,illegals never!
Mikee_T| 6.27.10 @ 10:18AM
Montana:
The dems controlled both houses of congress for the latter part
of George Bush's presidency. The dems pushed the banks to allow
all those poor unfortunate minorites to have a home...boo
hoo...now we have economic disaster....call a spade a spade...I
really have to restrain myself from writing some nasty things
here... A nation of entitlement programs, big government coupled
with corrupt unions (international by the way) will not help us
grow..... The private sector is starving and I'm guessing you
have either a govvy job or work for a non profit (which is the
same thing, basically)......You're a moron !
The Federal Government has Failed to do it's Constitutional Duty
to protect Our Sovereign Borders from Illegal Invaders.
This is a Winning Issue , as polls demonstrate.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates .
134 Days To November 2nd.
Chris| 6.21.10 @ 5:43PM
I HAVE ONE WORD: UNEMPLOYMENT!!!!!!
Arizona has big concerns: its states and cities are insolvent, it
has high social service expenses because of uncontrolled
immigration, it has high kidnappings and organized crime from
drug cartels, as well as high unemployment.
BUT THE REST OF THE COUNTRY IS DEALING WITH 3 YEARS OF 10-20%
UNEMPLYMENT.
AND HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT MEANS THE AMERICAN VOTING PUBLIC WANTS
THEIR JOBS SECURE FIRST AND THEIR UNEMPLOYED THE FIRST TO BE
HIRED.
The liberals and democrats are obviously looking to create a
hispanic caucus to dominate the electorate and that might work if
the economy were on better footings but to push immigration
during 10%-10% unemployment is to go against nearly the entire
american public.
I just do not see how Obama or any democrat can be re-elected.
WAKE UP| 6.21.10 @ 9:02PM
Yep, let's sue Arizona. That'll bring the nation together. And
America wants TWO MORE YEARS of this bullshit ?
Yah Bedaba| 6.21.10 @ 10:15PM
Peebo is goin down! Totally f'n ineligible to be Pres, wait till
the republican leadership finds the noose around their necks too
- Oh yeah, failing to uphold the oath is self conviction baby and
- you can fill in the blanks on the rest of the gangs out come.
jstwndring| 6.22.10 @ 12:53AM
Correct me if i'm wrong, but, isn't it the authority of the
legislative branch (state, fed) to create law? As long as that
law doesn't violate the Constitutional Rights of U.S. citizens,
can that law be overturned? Since when did we become a nation
ruled by judges? I'll tell you when, Roe-v-Wade. Does anyone know
why we revolted against England in the first place? They had been
ruling over us with tyrannical judges. Guess what? They're back.
Osamas Pajamas| 6.22.10 @ 1:46AM
OhBummer is dumber than he thinks he is. Give AZ Governor Jan
Brewer a microphone and 5 minutes later, OhBummer's hair will be
on fire. What a jerk he is --- what a complete jerk.
Marc Jeric| 6.22.10 @ 2:18AM
No Sir - Abu Hussein al-Mombassa (or whichever Kenyan hellhole
that Muslim was born in) is not a jerk: he is a revolutionary
marxist unst0ppable, as you can see, in communizing America.
Already nationalized are automobile companies, many banks,
mortgage companies, with insurance and hospital companies coming
in shortly; with the cap & trade scam he will nationalize oil
& gas companies, coal mines, electric utilities, and all high
energy using industries - aluminum smelters, steel mills, glass
factories, trucking companies...
We are too late; after the phony election in 2012 (thanks to
ACORN, SEIU, AFSCME, NEA, AFL-CIO) and following the amnesty of
20 million Mexican Indians he will be proclaimed in 2016 the
President for life.
Mike_T| 6.27.10 @ 10:22AM
"Shecky" Obama, as Mark Levin calls him. A classic example of a
flat out "statist"......period amen.......
Marc Jeric| 6.22.10 @ 2:09AM
Six yeras ago here in Nevada Harry Reid got elected by a majority
of 560 votes (against Ensign). These votes were provided by the
Culinary Union whose members are by large majority illegal aliens
from Mexico; the union card is accepted by the casinos which
"rely" on the union to verify the status of its members. The
union was so happy with its "success" that it plastered big signs
all over Las Vegas to that effect.
Why hasn't the ICE and/or FBI ever checked the union books?
Speaking Spanish (I lived and worked 6 years in Mexico and Spain)
I heard one worker instructing a new arrival how to become legal:
"Just go the union building over there and they will give you
papers to work here". This happened in the back of the
Stratosphere Casino during a break - and one could see the
Culinary Union headquarters building some 80 yards away.
Yosemeti Sam| 6.22.10 @ 2:37AM
" Obama Cracks Down ...."
Yeah - BHO, he the valiant baby ass kicker!
Or is it BHO the 'alleged' youth-time crack user/pusher whos'
capitalistic experience thereby is now being brought to bear?
And yet, and yet - the circumlocutionary
dufus senator McGoo remains stridently mute
to the barrage of thunder and noise from Arizonas' extrajudicial
Leftoid juries howling about a protective law strictly designed
for Arizonan legal citizens: their lives, limbs and properties.
A law not to be confused with the ensconced snobbish privileges
Leftoids demand for themselves in their purple enclaves.
Flipside| 6.22.10 @ 5:58AM
Being a liberal means there are no rules or laws. It means they
can do what they want whenever they want. The gov. will just find
a liberal judge that will provide cover and then lie their way to
pass an amnesty program. With RINO's like, McCain, Snowe,
Collins, Graham, Brown, liberals will get what they want, they
always do. Otherwise they'll astroturf with union protests, take
over gov. buildings, march the streets blocking traffic and
commerce and show up at the homes of the opposition to harass and
intimidate these people. But no it's the tea party and those old
gray haired grannies that are so violent, mean and dangerous.
Purpleguy| 6.22.10 @ 8:00AM
How retarded can you be? Libertarianism, which you obviously
confuse with Liberalism is much more likely to espouse belief in
no or few laws. The rest is the same old boring Republican
talking points.
Flipside| 6.22.10 @ 10:49AM
Purplegay, what is you major malfunction? Libertarianism?
Retarded? Back at you punk. Open your eyes and read the current
events.
These aren't talking points these are facts. Get your facts
straight then come back and talk to me. Your leader and liberals
in congress do whatever they want. Scam trillion dollar stimulus
-Rahmed- through, which didn't create any jobs. Lying about the
jobs they created, in fake zip codes published on their gov.
website. Payoffs to unions and broke states. Illegal takeover of
GM. Shutting down dealerships in GOP areas. Healthcare take over,
forced mandate, bribes, kickbacks, union exemptions to pass the
thing. Union thugs taking bus trips to the homes of wall street
executives...why didn't they go to the homes of Frank and Dobbs
they were the fools that caused the mortgage crash. Union thugs
bused in showing up at the home, physically on the property, of a
BofA executive..protesting what ? that they don't want to pay the
110MIL they owe to the bank. Firing of Ad General because he was
investigating illegal payments and cooking of the books, by the
Dem. mayor of Sacramento, a person friend of Obama and
fundraiser...for what, the WH said the Ad Gen. was old and
crazy....right. A liberal judge got the WH off the hook on that
one, for now. All the programs,( drone attacks, wire tapping,
etc.), that Bush put in place and blasted by liberals, esp.
Obama. All of them still in place. More drone missions. Closing
Gitmo. Never going to happen. Telling the world that KSM is
guilty but but wanting to give him a fair trial in NYC, never
going to happen. Suing AZ for mirroring and enforcing the current
FED law on illegal immigration. The BP shake down, with no legal
backing. Blanco, Rahm, Jesse Jr and the selling of Obama's senate
seat... you think Obama had nothing to do with that? The illegal
bribing of Administration jobs for two senator hopefuls in CO and
PA so they would back out of their primaries. Please, go back to
your Berkley tree house for a cold glass of purple Kool Aid.
Mikee_T| 6.27.10 @ 10:30AM
Purpleguy:
I get it now......you are scared to death to go out and compete
for work based on ability. I totally get it now.....must "stack
the deck" for people like you ......you must be a real
"affirmative action" backer as well......god bless us
all.......let's keep rewarding people for mediocrity...let's keep
holding back qualified individuals for jobs so that "quotas" are
met. You think this is the american way ? It isn't.......but what
does it matter ? It's racial and social unrest coming to a head
and you know what ? White males are sick and tired of it......we
aren't taking this crap any more.......I did my time.....52 years
old and a victim of "affirmative action" in New Jersey....The
party is over if we can stop the illegal contigent (and
ultimately straight left wing dem vote) before it's too late
pal........Weep in November because it will be a monumental loss
for leftists like you.......enjoy it while it lasts except I
really don't get what you're so happy about unless of course you
work for governenment or an arm of government like a non profit
or huge union......makes me sick !!!!
jstwndring| 6.22.10 @ 1:18PM
Seriously, though, do the courts have the authority to overturn
law that does not violate the Constitution? Everyone assumes that
they do. But do they? My contention is that they do not. They are
overstepping their authority when they try. It is the legislature
that writes law, not the judiciary.
My point is that the courts can go ahead and make all the noise
they want, but they cannot stop any state from writing/creating
law. If we listened to the courts back in 1857 (Dred Scott), then
slavery would still be legal. In that decision the U.S. Supreme
Court upheld slavery. President Lincoln and Congress went ahead
and ignored their ruling. If the Supreme Court is the "supreme
law of the land" as we are taught, then why do we no longer have
slavery? It is because the courts are not law, and do not rule
us. No one can stop Arizona from writing and passing any law as
long as no-one's civil liberties are being denied--and no,
illegal immigrants do not have a claim on our civil liberties.
John II| 6.22.10 @ 9:34PM
If I may be allowed a final word on this thread, listen closely
to how the Obamanation plays the McChrystal tune. When
Constitutional order suits these bastards, they turn momentarily
into strict constructionists.
But, politically, it's a lose-lose situation for the Professor.
He has to show how tough he is in effecting his mealy-souled
foreign policy. Looking forward to TAS's next postings.
Patriot1954| 6.24.10 @ 2:20PM
I believe that obama wants to destroy the united states and make
it all a minority country until the time they can kill,breed the
white race into history.I say to the people of the great state of
ARIZONA,and all american citizens to work together and patrol the
borders. If you see illegals make them happy to run back to
mexico,and if they have weapons or drugs ,kill them where they
stand,that will stop alot of them from comming here.Then take the
mexican people living in our cities ,legal or illegal and if they
are cought with weapons or drugs,send them home on the next bus
and let them know if they are caught here again,they will be old
when they get out of prison.Last but not least,BP do what you
feel is the best thing to do when you are threatened by an
illegal,deadly force if you have to,dont wait until they wound or
kill a person,dont worry about odumma or holder,we the people
will stand behind you all the way!Arizona will protect you. God
Bless America!
Let Arizona shut the president usurper up real fast with the
legitimate question, "Where's the birth certificate?" He wouldn't
want the publicity that exposes him as a fraud and foreigner.
ONTIME| 6.24.10 @ 3:30PM
Deemers are consistent in actions and thought, you can count on
them to do the wrong thing and most of the time it is intentional
because it is going to benefit them. They are the Jackass party
and here is another case where this particualr obstinance is
associated with ignorance, Barry s bound and determined to again
"do the wrong thing" to benefit the Deemers and it is almost
certain that the state of AZ will deal him a well deserved slap
in the head when the court ruling is passed down.
Consistency of ignorgant planning and circumstance, the oil
spill, the lifting of a unwise moratorium, the C&T CO2 joke,
the infamous backroom unread health care scam, which more states
are going to got to court on soon or go broke trying to
accomodate this stupidity, TARP Theft. You know that after the
houses are reorganized that investigations to find out who this
money went to and who recieved it are going to blossom like
flowers on a spring plum tree. Oh, Barry if you fear confinement
don't think you will be in that cell alone.
Shamus| 6.21.10 @ 6:32AM
There appears to be no legal basis to challenge the Arizona law. The wording of the statute matches federal law. And federal law does not precluding the states from enforcing a ban on illegal immigration. As such, this looks more like a political gesture than a real legal challenge.
Alan Brooks| 6.21.10 @ 8:44AM
Arizona is a pro-business state; if business wants cheap labor, they will maneuver to get it from illegals-- otherwise businesses have to invest more in automation.
Tim*| 6.21.10 @ 8:57AM
" The mission of American unions may have been to improve the working situation for American workers but the BUSINESS is union dues.
About the only kind of growth in the union business for a long time has been in unionizing foreign workers. The unions made especially strong in-roads among illegal workers. Thanks to a loophole in the 1986 law that made it illegal to hire an illegal alien, it is perfectly legal for a union to provide membership to an illegal alien. But the unions are hopeful that they will be able to get union dues out of a lot more of the 8 million illegal aliens if an amnesty can be secured for them. "
AMENBRO| 6.21.10 @ 9:22AM
Your observation barely scratches the surface. Demographically ARIZONA MANUFACTURING hasn't a ghost of chance in entering into even the final 10 of reason creating & exacerbating the illegal border problems sir.
Arizona Manufacturing jobs illegals may seek, first off LEFT THESE SHORES YEARS AGO, EMPHASIS YEARS AGO.
AZ mfg base is historically HI TECH AL; a far cry from what illegal aliens are even qualified much less looking for as they trode across the DESERT in AZ.
Chain Migration, as in ILLEGALS JOINING UP WITH OTHER SETTLED ILLEGALS IN JOB RICH ILLEGAL FRIENDLY geographic locations create the opportunities in AZ for illegals to disperse NATiONALLY into other areas of the countrys AL. Why do you think the AZ authorities busted the stuffins outta so called chauffeur services in AZ recently. EXACTLY WHAT THE NEW LAWS SEEK TO DISRUPT AL.
Arizona's major employment sectors for close to 50 years are aerospace, electronics and semi conductor manufacturing. Import export Arizona economic substitution strategies have created many service sector jobs in tourism Al, but mining and agriculture, key objectives for many extremely unskilled illegal aliens contribute but are low on the rung of opportunities these people cross for to begin with.
Simple demographics and Geospatial interaction,
More than half of all illegal immigration into the U.S. comes through Arizona.
The rate or Velocity that ILLEGALs are crossing the border into AZ exceeds even a ROBUST Manufacturing MA & PA, FORD, NICHE or MASS Assemble line ability to even begin to sustain the numbers AL.
MANUFACTURING BUSINESS could practically fire every single indigenous AMERICAN and still couldn't employ them all.
Automation, please do some homework.
Alan Brooks| 6.21.10 @ 10:09AM
AMENBRO,
If they all stayed in AZ, you would be correct; but as you mention, illegals disperse.
I feel guilty, we whites must have hurt you blacks very badly to make you write in this jivey, bro-in-the 'Hood way. Are you trying to prove your black manhood by posting these messages?
Well, we can tell you ARE tough by the way you write!
Alan Brooks| 6.21.10 @ 10:18AM
...you don't understand how it is regional? that AZ's difficulties can't be separated from N. Mexico's, CA , etc? that illegal workers can drift?
Alan Brooks| 6.21.10 @ 10:28AM
"AZ mfg base is historically HI TECH AL; a far cry from what illegal aliens are even qualified much less looking for as they trode across the DESERT in AZ."
Here you make sense, then you go the other way in denying that illegals are a cheap alternative to certain automation. But it isn't what you write, it is how you write that is confusing; you use higher case FAR too much; you repeat my name many times.
AMENBRO| 6.21.10 @ 10:28AM
"Simple demographics and Geospatial interaction,
More than half of all illegal immigration into the U.S. comes through Arizona. Lacking in "
READING COMPREHENSION problem, DYSLEXIA MEB-BBe
I bet OBAMA HAS some tuition money somewhere for folks like you Alan. They might question your racial sensibilities however. ITSSS, as in MONTY PYTHON,,,just too good.
You apologize for US HONKIES LLLLMMMFFFAAAOOOO.
AMENBRO| 6.21.10 @ 10:18AM
Asinine lack of a responsive excuse for your dipshitted attitude and lack of knowledge.
I jive ass condescendingly respond in that fashion for the specious stupidity folks like yo foist upon the board.
ALAN I'm a WHITEBOY alway have been and always wiill.
LAUGH MY HAIRY HINNIE TO DEATH YIPPIE AY KAYE AYE MF,,WE EXPOSE THe RACIST INHERENT IN FOLKS LIKE YOU . HIGH FIVE STUPID
Alan Brooks| 6.21.10 @ 10:30AM
What are you saying? racist towards latinos-- that isn't the case.
Alan Brooks| 6.21.10 @ 10:38AM
"I'm a WHITEBOY alway have been and always wiill."
Who suggested you might want to change your race someday? I still don't get what you want to say: we appear (it is hard to tell with you) to agree that illegals often disperse after they enter AZ; but after that it is v. difficult to understand your message. Are you saying replacing some unskilled labor via automation is not desirable??
Alan Brooks| 6.21.10 @ 10:42AM
"READING COMPREHENSION problem, DYSLEXIA MEB-BBe "
Your style-- not substance-- is what makes reading your comments extremely disorienting. The high case, mostly, but also your repeating several motifsunexpectedly-- including your interlocutor's name.
AMENBRO| 6.21.10 @ 11:21AM
Alan, sir, your honor, your highness if you're into the whole BREVITY THAING.
For the sake of your significant other I hope your codpiece is longer than your attention span.
DUUUDE you are making this all together too easy, if it makes you feel better I apolgize with the realization you are a product of recent public school education or you suffer from somemtimers at the least.
Remember ALAN, you started this by insulting Southerners. Can't catch don't pitch.
PEACE, LOVE, CRASH PADS & HARE KRISHNA SIR.
Warrior| 6.21.10 @ 11:07AM
Latino is not a race you jackass.
AMENBRO| 6.21.10 @ 11:14AM
Thank you Warrior.
OyVeyBro| 6.21.10 @ 1:22PM
My lawyer's tough !
Ret. Marine| 6.21.10 @ 10:26AM
More to the point, it gives his (obumblers) base something to bitch about, never mind the fact that all of these nitwits wouldn't know the law from their asses. The fact that the law Az. pushed was in fact a complete mirror of the federal law. This does not matter to the loudest squeky wheels turning in the mind mumb minds of their types. Man my grandson asked why they are against this law, my response was, they don't want laws that challange their minds, they do what they want no matter if it is against the law. Obummer, what a punk. Did you get that censors, I'm calling your punk out.
Derrick Lough| 6.23.10 @ 1:13AM
I like that comment. Agreed friend. Agreed.
Walking Horse| 6.21.10 @ 4:04PM
Let's cut to the chase. The reason Obama & Co. are in high dudgeon about Arizona has nothing to do with constitutional delegation of powers. I has everything to do with the fact that Arizona might actually *enforce* a law that is virtually identical to a Federal law that the Federal Government will not enforce.
darcy| 6.21.10 @ 4:15PM
The federal government should be sued and O impeached for failing to enforce immigration laws on the books already, for failing the government's chief function, to protect American citizens.
Meanwhile, here in soAZ, our border police departments have been put on notice by the Mexican drug cartels that our police officers are now targets of assassination -- just like the cartels are doing to law enforcement members in Mexic0.
And -- our border patrol ROE dictate that agents may not use their firearms until they have been shot at; handy info for invaders/criminals to have, who have adapted by throwing LARGE rocks and using vehicles to run down bp agents and ram their vehicles.
And when do you think CNN and cohorts will report this story?
Appleby| 6.21.10 @ 6:43AM
This is an attempt to keep the *Hispanic* vote on side; considering the precipitous fall in his ratings, King Zero can hardly afford to neglect even illegal voters who still like him.
Paul Ashley| 6.21.10 @ 7:27AM
Typical of the community-organizing Left, rather than actually solving a problem, they sue someone.
Darin| 6.21.10 @ 7:32AM
Maybe Governor Brewer can hire the New Black Panthers to provide security.
Seriously, this whole situation is nuts. Arizona is doing what the federal government refuses to do. In response, the federal government is looking to sue the state. Perhaps Arizona should counter-sue on the basis that the federal government is not performing its Constitutional mandate of "providing for the common defense" by not defending Arizona's international border.
August Hinton| 6.24.10 @ 10:11PM
I agree wholeheartedly we no longer claim to be a sovereign nation with out secured borders.To refuse to secure our borders is treason, Arizona should counter-sue on the basis that the federal government is not performing its Constitutional mandate of "providing for the common defense" by not defending Arizona's international border.
It is a no brainer our borders must be secured
JP| 6.21.10 @ 7:47AM
The President and his party can easily solve this problem -rescind and repeal those portions of our immigration and border enforcement laws they find offensive. But to do that takes courage, not to mention a bit of insanity. So the President and his party continue their absurdity of non-enforcement, harrassment of reasonable dissent, not to mention the continuation of our "open borders". Spin can only get you so far. At some point in time events catch-up.
Mick Lee| 6.21.10 @ 8:15AM
Well, Shamus, I'd like to agree with you but liberals are nothing if not imaginative. While there is no legal basis to challenge Arizona’s law that doesn't stop them from inventing one. Heaven knows what it will be but that is because such challenges make little apparent sense.
One must consider the current example of California's "Gay Marriage" amendment to the state constitution. The amendment went through the long and difficult process required just to appear on the ballot. It won approval from the majority of Californians. Yet now, that amendment to the California Constitution is being fought in court on the basis that the amendment to the constitution is unconstitional to that constitution. One can reasonable ask "isn't that what amendments do?" Don't they often take objectionable evolutions in legal developments and rectify them according to the will of a free and self-governing people?
With liberals, the argument isn't the argument. The present legal challenge to California's amendment is a "form" of an argument which is only a means to an objective. This "form of an argument" is a principle which may never have been invoked in the past and may never be invoked again. That is because consistency is found in the objective. How they get there is OK as long as they get there.
In the case of Arizona, the real of objective is not the illegals. The real goal is more voters for the Democrat Party and the illegals are the means to that end. Rights Smights. Civil rights of the illegals? They only exist at the pleasure of the Democrats. If all the illegals suddenly began to vote mostly Republican, look for the Democrats, the progressive churches, and the "pro-immigrant" organizations to turn on a dime and demand three separate fences along the border with mines fields in between. An infantry division or two wouldn't be a bad idea either.
Louis Jenkins| 6.21.10 @ 8:25AM
The Federal Gov. will not rescend the laws they have created. When have they ever done that? Rather, they will continue to add laws to the "books" and they will remain unenforced. Arizona's Governor will have to go it alone, even though she has plenty of moral support from the other states. What has my panties in a wad is the lack of Federal support for Arizona and their efforts to limit illegal immigration. If the Feds don't support Arizona then who does? Those people, brave no doubt, will have to go it alone and may very well succeed. The only way for the Feds to win their case would be if the courts are biased. God bless the soverign state of Arizona.
Bram| 6.21.10 @ 8:35AM
We desperately need a House of Repeal added to our federal government.
Bram| 6.21.10 @ 8:33AM
Does Obama realize the President is the nations chief law-enforcement officer and commander-in-chief? Not the chief legislator or tin-pot-dictator with the power to make and enforce laws as he pleases?
darcy| 6.21.10 @ 3:58PM
No.
Frank Knutson| 6.21.10 @ 11:53PM
Obviously.
August Hinton| 6.24.10 @ 10:32PM
It is my belief that President Obama has an extreme case of delusions of grandeur and does imagine himselfto be some kinda god. Proof positive without knowing as much as a recruit in the Army about the strategy of war he second guesses a four star general as how a war should be fought. He should realise it takes more than a title to be a real commander in chief. Admit he doesn't know how to win,take advice and get out of the way.
Petronius| 6.21.10 @ 8:40AM
Immigration and the law are no longer the issue. The Demoncrat left is determined to teach the world that they are God.
darcy| 6.21.10 @ 3:58PM
Yes.
southernsue| 6.21.10 @ 8:53AM
obama is at war with the american people. that is the only answer to why he is governing the way he is. remember, obama is not half american black, he is half kenyan muslim. all muslims are laughing as they pray to their allah.
pray for our country and be at the polls in november and vote out all demonrats and the republicans that vote with them.
Brian Mc| 6.21.10 @ 8:54AM
A simple news release:
From this day forward, the Federal Government will enforce it's southern border utilizing the same laws Mexico uses to enforce its southern border.
LoisC| 6.21.10 @ 8:56AM
PLEASE, can't someone find a way to impeach or in some other way get this idiot out of office. Him and his heard of Congressional sheep are a total embarrassment to America the great. The whole world is laughing at us as we try and deal with this inept pretender the useful idoits here have elected. If there is anyone in Congress with any integrity left, please impeach this guy on grounds that he hates America and is a pure Socialist. Oh and all you Socialist, get the he!l out of my country, go to Russia or Argentina where you will fit in. Bozo should be supporting Arizona, Arizona should not have to do the job the Fed is supposed to be doing, keeping America safe for AMERICANS the federal government should be keeping America safe. IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!
PJ| 6.21.10 @ 9:44AM
Take a look at this article:http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/06/is_obamas_bp_shakedown_an_impe.html. Food for thought!
ggoblue| 6.21.10 @ 7:40PM
once we have the house we can hold hearings into the usages of the stimulus money....there will be billions in graft there...
we might not want to impeach such a despised opponent tho...even the democrats will hate him after november....
Anthony| 6.21.10 @ 9:01AM
I wonder if Hillary read the 20 page bill, or like Holder, Napolitano, and the empty suit in chief, merely opined without knowledge, which is de rigueur with this administration.
Madame Hillary is "all in" with the anti-American left, and she has just kissed her presidential asperations good-bye.
Obama said it all weeks ago, "America is not defined by its borders".
MEMO TO OBAMA: America is not defined by its radical left, either. November is on the horizon. America's flirtation with Marxism will soon be over.
Hillary had best brush up on her cookie recipes, she'll be back in the kitchen in no time, where making a mess of things still produces good results.
David| 6.21.10 @ 9:59AM
Very simple way to get California to support Arizona's new law. Have Arizona create an amnesty program - for 30 days any illegal alien may turn themselves in. If they do so they will be given a voucher. The voucher will allow them to get a free bus ticket to San Francisco, plus a box lunch and $100. The voucher will let them avoid deportation until they are able to get on the bus. SF will suddenly have an influx of thousands of illegal aliens that they will have to support and deal with. Will the liberal citizens of this city continue to boycott Arizona or will economics cause them to pull their heads out?? Time will tell.
RichardK| 6.21.10 @ 6:33PM
David. You give Californians, especially Californians in San Francisco, way too much intellectual/economic credit. They are already 20 billion $s in the whole for the upcoming year. They have 1/2 trillion dollars in unfunded govt. pensions. What would a few more illegals cost?
UpChuck.Liberals| 6.21.10 @ 11:09PM
FYI, not all Kalifornians are Dumb$hit liberals without a brain. The 14th Amendment needs to go, it served it's purpose 100 years ago. That's step one, making it much more hazardous to cross the border would be the next one.
Frank Knutson| 6.21.10 @ 11:59PM
A Marine with orders to "Fire for effect" stationed every hundred yards along the border would be a good start.
Joe| 6.21.10 @ 10:04AM
Hillary simply continues to push the Progressive party agenda...and "immigration reform" - knowing the deleterious effects of such a move. This has been her modus for decades. She is as much a liberal, Marxist force as the good ol' president.
Barry admitted that he is probably a one-term president and this hag has already stated that she is, too. They will leave us holding the bag if we don't stand up for rational, effective laws to enforce what is ours.
I am not happy about ceding 90 miles of our border to Mexico already. To hell with Hillary.
bluecollarbytes| 6.21.10 @ 10:09AM
At least Obama has found something he's willing to fight for: the right of the Federal guvmint to force 'doing nothing' about illegal immigration, on the the rest of us.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡| 6.21.10 @ 10:12AM
Here’s an abridged version of this Arizona Law for the benefit of all those kommies in the beavisbud bureaucracy who can’t handle reading its full twenty or so pages: “Law enforcement officials of the State of Arizona, while being more careful to respect Constitutional Rights than specified by corresponding federal law, are hereby empowered to enforce said Federal Law.”
This leads me to the following questions: 1) If the courts rule in favor of the obummer dictatorship, will the Federal Law it enforces also be tossed in the trash? 2) Might this be their true objective?
Gill O’Teen ✝✡
gill.Oteen07041776@gmail.com
Go Galt!
Only 944 days to go.
Redneck53| 6.21.10 @ 10:16AM
Majority rules my butt!! Anytime the majority wins anything in this country, in favor of AZ, the marriage fight in CA, whatever, there will be a liberal minority that wants to sue to get it turned over. With the courts the way they are now, they win. America, as it was, is gone. The lunatics are running the asylum, (into 3rd qorld status).
Pointy Head| 6.21.10 @ 10:17AM
It is a Federal Offense to Hold up a Post Office or a Bank that's a member of the Federal Reserve. Nevertheless, local police have the power of arrest and state courts can try such offenders for armed robbery. Similarly the Arizona law is an example of joint jurisdiction.
Chisco| 6.21.10 @ 10:35AM
I am so hoping that this will be brought before a judge with the courage to actually slap down "the obama team", and rule that Arizona's law MIRRORS the U.S. immigration code regarding illegal immigration!!
michaelle| 6.21.10 @ 10:46AM
I hope Obamie and thugs keep finding this out until they are worn down
michigander_sandusky| 6.21.10 @ 10:48AM
Even though I support the AZ law I'm glad the Obama administration is suing. Their suit will only serve to further demonstrate to the American people how out of touch they are with commonsense and reality.
Mikee_T| 6.27.10 @ 9:35AM
Michigander....Another moron yuppie, no doubt. I'm guessing a white female too.....(primarily responsible for the Obama administration being in office, in my opinion). You won't be happy until we don't even remotely resemble this once supreme sovereign nation....you just completely contradicted yourself in one paragraph....did you vote for Obama ? I'm sure you did.....
Jim O'Brien| 6.21.10 @ 1:02PM
Barack Obama is at war:
1) He's at war against the people of Arizona, and against all the citizens of the United States, who seek to protect themselves from illegal immigrants, Mexican drug gangs, and terrorists infiltrating the U.S. via the Mexican border
2) He's at war against the people of New York, and of all the United States, who do not want non-citizen enemy combatants (the terrorists) to enjoy the rights of U.S. citizens in our courts
3) He's at war against all the people of the United States, who demand freedom to make their own medical care and health insurance decisions
4) He's at war against the people of the Gulf coast, who he has not only failed to help, but has actually hindered in their attempts to stop oil from washing up on their shores
5) He's at war against all the people of the United States, who know that radical Islamists are the murderers of thousands of American civilians and soldiers, and the murderers of thousands of Israelis, Europeans, Asians, Iraqis, and Africans, including other Muslims
6) He's at war against all the people of the United States, who know that America is an exceptional country which has defended freedom around the globe for the last 100 years
7) He's at war against all the people of the United States, who want far less government spending and substantially reduced taxes
8) He's at war against all the people of the United States, who know that the Constitution should not be violated by Congress or subjected to arbitrary changes by biased, inexperienced and incompetent judges on the Supreme Court
9) He's at war against all the people of the United States, who know that our Founders included the Bill of Rights for sound reasons, including our right to keep and bear arms, our right to our private property, and our right to free speech
10) He's at war against all the people of the United States, who know that making unilateral nuclear defense concessions to Russia and the rest of the world is a foolish and dangerous path
11) He's at war against all the people of the United States, who know that "global warming" (aka "climate change") is a hoax designed to grab political power and increase taxes
12) He's at war against all the States by seeking to burden them with Medicaid expenses in violation of their sovereign status
13) He's at war against all the people of the United States who prosper by free enterprise and personal freedom, not by union thugs, government bureaucrats, excessive controls, and violations of the Constitution
14) He's at war against all the people of the United States who know we are all created equal, but also know that in a free society we have unequal outcomes
15) He's at war against the United States and the Constitution, and therefore is a treacherous impostor
Obama lied when he swore to "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution..." Obama is unfit to serve.
Spoonman| 6.21.10 @ 3:45PM
In refernce to your #4, Oblama actually wants the gulf coast states to be severaly hurt by the oil release. In fact, the worse the disaster the better for his efforts to eliminate offshore drilling, or any drilling. Its too dangerouse, too polluting, not safe enough - stop the drilling and build windmills to save the world!
darcy| 6.21.10 @ 8:42PM
This drilling moratorium is as much about shifting profits to pertrobas and George Soros as it is about anything else. Never let a crisis go to waste when leveraging it can stuff the pockets of your kingmaker.
Always, always, always, in politics, follow the money.
Mikee T| 6.27.10 @ 9:48AM
Jim O'Brien:
You have "accurately" summarized what this guy is (Obama). You are obviously a great citizen and I commend you......and agree on everything you cited here.......
Anonymous| 6.21.10 @ 1:03PM
Obamites are knee-jerk liberals. They have not even read the law or know the law, and they instinctly brand the law as racist. These people are supposed to be "enlightened." Instead of enlightening us, they shut down any debate in the name of Political Correctness. This administration is so ideological to the point of being ridiculous, and perhaps even dangerous.
Ross Wolf| 6.21.10 @ 1:38PM
Is Obama’s refusal to secure our U.S./Mexican Border from millions of invading Illegal Immigrants—by design?
Despite strong evidence that heavily armed Mexican drug cartels continuously cross Arizona’s border smuggling drugs, attack Arizona police and commit crimes that threaten all Americans, Obama has vehemently refused to protect Arizona’s border with sufficient troops. Despite millions of unemployed Americans have to compete with 12 million illegal immigrants for jobs, Obama won’t lift a finger to stop the gushing flow of Mexicans that 24/7 illegally enter the United States via Arizona. Increasingly States are moving toward bankruptcy, and can’t afford the costs of illegal immigrant medical services, education and incarceration of illegal immigrants that commit crimes? Before addressing why Obama refused to sufficiently help Arizona protect its State/U.S. border, one might ask why Obama in the midst of a financial crisis, wants to burden U.S. taxpayers by making Puerto Rico a State, often referred to as Welfare Island.
Most Americans find it unbelievable the Obama administration is filing a suit to stop Arizona’s illegal immigration bill SB 1070. But it is believable when you consider Obama’s Socialist/Marxist constituency intends to use millions of illegal immigrants to force unaffordable public services on States and U.S. Government that will financially overwhelm and cripple government infrastructures, problematically destroying the United States. American won’t die immediately, in the interim Congress to forestall an economic collapse will have to hugely raise Citizens’ taxes, ironically that will feed leftist mandates that Citizens’ share their wealth with the masses. Increasingly it appears Obama intends to force a form of Marist/socialism on Americans—even if that means destroying the U.S. economy. The longer Obama can keep the Mexican border open, millions more illegal immigrants will come to America to financially bleed U.S. Taxpayers and governments dry, politically changing the direction of America toward Socialism. If leftists succeed in spending America into bankruptcy, it is foreseeable millions of disparate Americans might accept, even welcome a hybrid form of Marxist/socialism.
Recently the Obama administration took legal steps to prevent an Arizona illegal immigration law taking affect that would criminally charge employers who knowingly hired illegal immigrants; leftists consider it collateral damage of their cause that illegal immigrants take American jobs. America’s greatest threat is not from foreign enemies, but the Marxists malignancy that is spreading—in U.S. Government. Consider what Obama has already accomplished. During the worst recession since the Great Depression Obama’s has forced (unaffordable) health insurance, new taxes and regulatory costs on U.S. Citizens and businesses that will inhibit investment and hiring of new employees for years. Obama’s forced heath insurance costs on Americans that will disqualify millions of self employed middle class home buyers qualifying for home mortgages; qualified home buyers are desperately needed in this recession to support and stabilize home values that secure trillions in bank held mortgages so banks don’t fail. Assuming obama’s intention is to help the U.S. Economy, it appears he is doing most everything one would do to destroy it.
Purpleguy| 6.21.10 @ 3:59PM
"Despite strong evidence that heavily armed Mexican drug cartels continuously cross Arizona’s border smuggling drugs, attack Arizona police and commit crimes that threaten all Americans" - would you suggest we go to war with Mexico? Perhaps we could then annex the entire country and only have to patrol the tiny little border with Guatemala then?
Occam's Tool| 6.21.10 @ 8:03PM
Dear Purpleguy:
The suggestion is that we should be as tough on Mexican illegals as Mexico is on Guatemalan illegals. That's all.
I, by the way, adopted two kids from Guatemala, who are now legally American citizens. I waited in line and filled out my paperwork. I have a lot of problems with gatecrashers, particularly with guns. I don't believe the fellow was suggesting war with Mexico; enforcing the borders properly and rigorously should be enough.
DaveS| 6.21.10 @ 8:10PM
No, not war - please, may we use Mexico's immigration law as own own?
Purpleguy| 6.22.10 @ 8:04AM
Didn't you mother ever teach you that just because "Johnny" does it, doesn't mean you have to?
Oldefarte| 6.21.10 @ 1:59PM
This Department of Injustice's action is deplorable and anti-American. Anyone capable of taking a vacation this year should consider doing so in the state of Arizona!!!!!
Steve Abrams| 6.21.10 @ 2:04PM
THE USA DOES NOT OWE A JOB TO EVERY "BEANER " WHO CAN JUMP A FENCE OR SWIM A RIVER. It does owe AMERICANS the certainty of walking American streets in safety. Obama can go to Hades. The faster the better.
Karnick| 6.21.10 @ 2:07PM
I don't really understand the furor over Arizona's immigration policy. Don't they have the right to enforce whatever laws regarding immigration, however, they want? The 14th amendment seems to make policy regarding citizenship pretty clear, and Arizona doesn't seem to be violating anyone's due process in their enforcement of this amendment.
I guess I just don't see anything Constitutionally wrong with this law. Can someone help me out here.
Purpleguy| 6.21.10 @ 3:57PM
The 14th Amendment does talk about citizens, but it also mentions all persons, without regard to citizenship.
"nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." - This is the crux of the issue ... is the law being applied equally to all persons in AZ? Does it apply equally to all blond, blue-eyed types, as well as brown skinned, young, old, male/female? It's supposed to, sure - but, just exactly how do you prove that, when the application of the law can be very subjective?
And, in addition, one provision of the law allows for an individual to report someone as illegal and if the authorities don't respond positively, they can be sued for non-action. That does smack of the Gestapo tactics of neighbors reporting neighbors, doesn't it?
The Supreme Court has ruled that the Congressional power to regulate naturalization, in Article 1, Section 8, includes the power to regulate immigration (see, for example, Hampton v. Mow Sun Wong, 426 U.S. 88 [1976]). It would not make sense to allow Congress to pass laws to determine how an immigrant becomes a naturalized resident if the Congress cannot determine how that immigrant can come into the country in the first place.
There is also an argument that immigration is an implied power of any sovereign nation, and as such, the federal government has the power to regulate immigration because the United States is a sovereign nation. While it is true that the United States is a sovereign nation, and it may be true that all sovereign nations have some powers inherent in that status, it is not necessary to determine if immigration is such a power that does not even require constitutional mention, because the Naturalization Clause handles the power.
In other words, mmigration law is the sole responsibility of the Federal Government, according to the Constitution. So what was the purpose of the law, besides political? It won't pass Constitutional scrutiny and strict constructionist theory.
Tim*| 6.21.10 @ 7:27PM
" Kris W. Kobach, a law professor who helped to draft the Arizona statute, plausibly contends that the Arizona law does not contravene the preemption doctrine because it provides for "concurrent" enforcement of federal law. Kobach has explained that the framers of the legislation were keenly aware of the preemption doctrine and took pains to craft it in a manner that would insulate it from a preemption challenge. In particular, the statute declares that it "shall be implemented in a manner consistent with federal laws regulating immigration."
Tim*| 6.21.10 @ 7:29PM
" In its most recent decision on preemption, Levine v. Wyeth (2009), the Court declared that "[w]e start with the assumption that the historic police powers of the States were not to be superceded by the Federal Act unless that was the clear and manifest purpose of Congress." Every state has an inherent "police power," which allows the state to legislate for the health, safety, morals, and welfare of its people.
In enacting its immigration statute, the Arizona legislature was exercising its police power in a reasonable attempt to protect its citizens from the many baneful effects of illegal immigration. In particular, the legislation should help to ameliorate crime, protect the natural environment, ease the ravages of the recession, promote social stability, and encourage respect for the rule of law. "
Purpleguy| 6.22.10 @ 8:02AM
"In particular, the legislation should help to ameliorate crime, protect the natural environment, ease the ravages of the recession, promote social stability, and encourage respect for the rule of law. " - are you sure you're not a closet liberal?
darcy| 6.21.10 @ 8:36PM
Sovereign this and sovereign that. The PEOPLE are sovereign -- the state has ZERO power not granted it by the consent of the governed.
We shall see who is sovereign.
Kickstand| 6.24.10 @ 3:01PM
immigration law defines who and under what circumstances someone may enter this country. The border patrol's duty is to enforce those laws. After someone circumvents the law and the border patrol they become common criminals.
Arizona has every constitutional right to arrest criminals in their jurisdiction.
They then turn them over to ICE to again adjudicate the immigration statues.
Where in the constitution does it say a state may not arrest criminals.
I would suggest, before deciding constitutional law, it might behove you to read it.
Steve Abrams| 6.21.10 @ 2:10PM
PS...If I see another Mexican wave his national flag on American soil...I'm gonna puke. If your 756066 square mile TOILET/HOME is sooo great, then swim-the-Rio/jump-the-fence... back there ASAP.
Ronald Howard| 6.21.10 @ 2:16PM
Most Americans have no idea what is taking place in Arizona. Americans living in this state, within 60 to 80 miles of the Arizona/Mexican border, have for years now been terrorized and have pleaded for help to stop the daily invasion of illegal border crossers. The people living in the southern part of this American state are living in a war zone. Most of them live in rural areas, small ranches and isolated homes. The illegal's and drug smugglers are using these areas as highways.
One rancher testifed at a senate hearing that 300 to 1,200 people A DAY come across his ranch, vandalizing his property, stealing his vehicles, cutting his fences and destroying the habitat with their trails and layups. In the last two months he has found 17 dead bodies and two Koran bibles. However, as outrageous as those problems are they pale in comparison with the murders by these illegal's. Rancher Rob Krantz, murdered by the drug cartels, Border Patrol agents shot and wounded and shot and killed. Another rancher testified that drugs are brought across his ranch in a military operation. A point man with an AK-47 type weapon goes in front. 1/2 mile back are more guards fully armed with automatic weapons. 1/2 mile behind them are the drug carriers behind them more guards with automatic weapons. These people are violent and they will kill anyone who gets in their way.
It unbelievable that our Government continues to let these conditions exist. Now the President promises to send 1,200 National Guard troopers to the border. What a great guy. That works out to about 1 trooper every mile and a half. Yeah right that one really works! What about the Border Patrol? The Border Patrol is not on this border. They have set up 60 miles away with check points that do nothing to stop the invasion. The Border Patrol is undermanned and undergunned. They run around trying to catch the illegal's, if they do, all that happens most of the time is that the illegal's are taken back across the border so they can try again.
Federal prisons have over 35% illegal's and 20% of Arizona's prisons are filled with illegal's. In the last few years 80% of our law enforcement officers killed or wounded have been by illegal's.
The majority of people coming over recently are people we should be worried about. The ranchers
testified the people they now seeing are not the same as people in the past, those looking for work. We know the coyotes will bring over anyone who has the money to pay. Can anyone say terrorist? Count on it, these bastards have already brought terrorists the United States. The lame stream media has distorted what SB 1070 will do. SB 1070 is built on Federal law and in fact isn't even as strict as the Federal law. It will give law enforcement the ability, when there is probable cause, to determine if a person is here legally. Federal law is very clear. If you are in this country on a VISA, you must have your papers on you at all times. In Arizona all you need to show you are legal citizen is a drivers license, MVD identification card, Native American Card or a military I.D. card. Anyone needs these documents to vote, get a hunting or fishing license etc. So nothing has been added to the Federal law. No one is going to be stopped walking down the street or going with the kids to get an ice cream (take note Mr. President). The Progressives who are currently in power in D.C. are angry because we dare to try to do something to protect our citizens. Our current President and his Administration lie like hell and tell us they want to protect the border and have a reformed immigration policy. They don't. What they want is open borders and ammnesty They are pimping for the Hispanic vote, which they believe they will
get with that policy. In the mean time Americans are being terrorized, the border is wide open, our schools and hospitals are spending more money than they can afford, Arizona like most states and our Country is broke, our prisons are full of illegal's and all this bunch of incompetent boobs in D.C. can think to do is sue Arizona for trying to protect itself. God help and bless this country, the current administration will not.
wolf| 6.21.10 @ 2:17PM
the number "12 million" illegal aliens seems to be decreasing .. i have seen 11 million and in some reports as low as 10 million...
perhaps this will be easier to pass amnesty for 10 million and the voters will except that number rather than the REAL number of over 20 million and counting...and then the real number will be at least millions higher as our "new" citizens will then bring their families to their new home
Purpleguy| 6.21.10 @ 2:24PM
"Americans side with Arizona by a 58 percent to 41 percent margin" -- so now we're running the country by polls, is it? Wasn't the BIG deal about GW that he wasn't checking the polls before he made decisions?
Now, all of a sudden because it's Obama, the polls matter?
PurpleLips| 6.21.10 @ 3:50PM
It only matters at election time. Our Kenyan President has this nasty habit of supporting laws that 60% of Americans hate. Of course, he didn't run on that platform. But then again, 30% of the voters would have voted for him even he admitted to consuming a pound of blow on a daily basis. South Carolina's primary was a good example of that.
Tim*| 6.21.10 @ 4:03PM
Yeah , polls matter.
That's why Democrat Candidates are runnin' away from Obama now.
Oldefarte| 6.22.10 @ 11:04AM
No, NITWIT, the polls don't matter...BUT THE LAW DOES. The government has a FIDUCIARY DUTY to ENFORCE THE LAWS. If you or YA BOY disagrees with said laws, then get off your lazy backside and have the LEGISLATIVE branch of the government amend or change the disagreed with law[s]!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mikee_T| 6.27.10 @ 10:01AM
Purpleguy:
Stop cutting and pasting constitutional text, you don't understand it and you interpret it like the moron in the white house. A radical left wing lawyer / organizer that is suddenly commander in chief. God help us all....Polls merely show the majority and what they want. Period... I'm guessing you work for a non profit that administers hundreds of entitlement programs through tax payer funded grants.......atrocious...absolutely atrocious....
Maggie Art| 6.21.10 @ 2:57PM
This site empathizes the danger of third world population growth to our future and urges action, particularly from young Americans. As a long-time student of this problem in California, I present facts and quotes with a new slant. Did you know that Senator Dianne Feinstein testified before the Judiciary Committe in 1995 that California "is an immigration disaster"?
Maggie Art| 6.21.10 @ 2:59PM
The website is BillionAmericans.com
That's where we are headed by 2100
Purple Lips| 6.21.10 @ 3:58PM
Maggie,
Let's face it, American women don't do Motherhood anymore. Like everything else, we outsource that problem to foreigners. We can't even count on Catholics anymore. They are about as sterile as the Protestants.
You want to keep America WASPish, stay home and have babies -lots of them. Throw your birth control pills out the window and have sex for WASPdom. The 3rd World still knows how to have children (just go to Yemen), and they know how to cross a river.
darcy| 6.21.10 @ 8:30PM
Motherhood is not a "problem." I know countless women actively engaged in the pursuit. True, motherhood is disparaged in our mass culture outlets; but let me tell you this: we are a force to be reckoned with, for we are the ones molding the next generation -- and they will NOT be commie-compliant.
gearjammer| 6.21.10 @ 3:36PM
I live in a zip code that gives Obama 98 per cent approval I am sure. At my super market I rub elbows with the Brown University crowd, RISD, our rich professional democrats, a lot of true believer middle class democrat types and so on. There is a large display of Arizona Iced Tea in front of the cash out lines. I make a great show of stocking up each time I am in the market. I get a lot of nasty looks and frowns but not in any direct sense, maybe because I am a pretty rugged fella and wear an ARMY tank top most of the time. I am waiting for somebody to make my day and berate me for my consumer choice. Until then, Arizona Iced Tea , muchos, Nantucket Nectars, nada.
Purpleguy| 6.21.10 @ 3:41PM
Except that Arizona Tea doesn't come from Arizona...
Purple Lips| 6.21.10 @ 3:53PM
You are correct. Arizona Tea is brewed in Brooklyn -probably by a bunch of illegal... I mean undocumented aliens. Heck, I bet the bottles were manufactured in China, and the marketing was done in Bombay. Does it really matter whether it is call Arizona or Calcutta Tea? Heck, most of the world's tea comes from India.
FTM| 6.21.10 @ 4:05PM
I have a job in a tier I automotive plastic injection molding plant. In order to be hired in this plant I had to show two of three pieces of identification proving that I am an American citizen. I had to show a birth certificate, a drivers licence or a passport, two of the three. I had to furnish to the employer two of three of these formal identification documents. Two, count 'em out of three.
I am told that employers are required by federal law to verify the citizenship status of a potential employee before hiring that employee. Now, if that's the case then how is it that an illegal can get a job anywhere? If that's the case then when the Immigration folks show up at a business and bust their hourly labor for being illegal then how is it that the owners and managers of the businesses aren't hauled off to jail?
This is the law isn't it?
Don't try hiding behind political party either because the Republican party is every bit as guilty as the Democrat party on this issue.
Now, if according to the law I have to prove my citizenship status before a company can legally hire me then how the hell is it that the Commander-In-Chief, the President of the United States of America doesn't have to prove his citizenship? How can that be?
The good thing about the ultimate disintegration of the United States is that all this crap won't matter any more. No more cops, no more judges or jails, no more do-gooders trying to tell me what I should do next. No more idiot lawyers, no more idiot juries. No more idiotic jury duty. No more bungling, dishonest, double speaking politicians. All we will have to do is to wait around for a couple of months for all the gub'ment dependant freeloaders and the civil service, political class and the ivory tower elites to starve to death and then we can set ourselves about rebuilding the country.
Montana| 6.21.10 @ 5:01PM
The Tea Bag Party are just “haters not debaters” or as others have dubbed them “screamers not dreamers”, with their failed attempts at stopping Healthcare reform, they say they respect the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence but they do not mind passing laws, through weak Governors (no one voted for this crazy) who only cares about getting elected Governor, on the backs of undocumented workers, that will not pass Constitution muster.
Brewer signed into law;
1. S.B. 1070,
2. No permit conceal weapons law,
3. The famous Birthers law,
4. Banning Ethnic studies law,
5. Could she be behind the Mural in Prescott, Arizona, ordered to be whiten,
6. On deck to pass, no citizenship to babies born to undocumented workers,
7. If she can read she should look up Arizona’s House Bill 2779 from two years ago (which was un-constitution and failed when legally challenged),
8. The boycotted Martin Luther King Day, what idiots don’t want another holiday? Yes, you guessed it Arizona.
Well Arizona, you can boycott new holidays and keep passing crazy laws and the rest of us will continue to challenged them in a court of law and continue to add cities to our Boycott of your state.
I real cannot believe anything that comes out of Brewer’s mouth, in an interview she first said her father had died in Germany fighting the Nazi in World War II (war ended 1945) but of course we find out the truth that father was never in Germany and died in California in 1955. But we are suppose to believe everything else she says, right! No one voted for you for Governor, yet you keep listening to the tiny brains of the crazies and signing into law everything that comes into their feeble minds, it only make you look dumb, stupid or racist, or maybe all three.
As for the Tea Bag Party, their phony patriotism is sickening; they are just racists going by another name. We all know you are just itching to put a sheet on their head? Let’s face it the Republicans had eight years to deal with health care, immigration, energy (remember Cheney’s secret meetings with oil companies where loosening regulation and oversight were sealed), climate change and financial oversight and governance and they failed. It appears that the Republican Party is only good at starting wars (two in eight years, with fat contracts to friends of Cheney/Bush) but not at winning wars as seen by the continuing line of body bags that keep coming home. The Republicans party will continue turned inward to their old fashion obstructionist party (and their Confederacy appreciation roots) because they continue to allow a small portions (but very loud portion) of their party of “birthers, baggers and blowhards” to rule their party. I will admit that this fringe is very good at playing “Follow the Leader” by listening to their dullard leaders, Beck, Hedgecock, Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush, Savage, Sarah Bailin, Orly Taitz, Victoria Jackson, Michele Bachmann and the rest of the Blowhards and acting as ill programmed robots (they have already acted against doctors that perform abortions).
The Birthers and the Tea Bag party crowd think they can scare, intimidate and force others to go along with them by comments like “This time we came unarmed”, let me tell you something not all ex-military join the fringe militia crazies who don’t pay taxes and run around with face paint in the parks playing commando, the majority are mature and understand that the world is more complicated and grey than the black and white that these simpleton make it out to be and that my friend is the point. The world is complicated and people like Hamilton, Lincoln, and Roosevelt believed that we should use government a little to increase social mobility, now it’s about dancing around the claim of government is the problem. The sainted Reagan passed the biggest tax increase in American history and as a result federal employment increased, but facts are lost when mired in mysticism and superstition. For a party that gave us Abraham Lincoln, it is tragic that the ranks are filled with too many empty suits and the crazy Birthers who have not learned that the way our courts work is that you get a competent lawyer, verifiable facts and present them to a judge, if the facts are real and not half baked internet lies, then, and only then, do you proceed to trial. The Birthers seem to be having a problem with their so called “Internet facts”. Let’s face it no one will take the Birthers seriously until they win a case, but until then, you will continue to appear dumb, crazy or racist, or maybe all three. I heard that Orly Taitz now wants to investigate the “Republican 2009 Summer of Love” list: Assemblyman, Michael D. Duvall (CA), Senator John Ensign (NV), Senator Paul Stanley (TN), Governor Mark Stanford (SC), Board of Ed Chair, and Kristin Maguire AKA Bridget Keeney (SC), she wants to re-establish a family values party, that is like saying that the Catholic Church cares about the welling being of children in their care, too late for that. Yee Haw!
Tim*| 6.21.10 @ 5:33PM
Apparently , Montana is upset .
WAKE UP| 6.21.10 @ 9:04PM
No so upset that didn't forget to trot out "racist', instead of THINKING.
patriot| 6.25.10 @ 8:56PM
can you really be this stupid ? what are you ,black or brown? this sure doesn't sound like a true American,more like a TRAITOR!!!! America first ,illegals never!
Mikee_T| 6.27.10 @ 10:18AM
Montana:
The dems controlled both houses of congress for the latter part of George Bush's presidency. The dems pushed the banks to allow all those poor unfortunate minorites to have a home...boo hoo...now we have economic disaster....call a spade a spade...I really have to restrain myself from writing some nasty things here... A nation of entitlement programs, big government coupled with corrupt unions (international by the way) will not help us grow..... The private sector is starving and I'm guessing you have either a govvy job or work for a non profit (which is the same thing, basically)......You're a moron !
Pete| 6.21.10 @ 5:26PM
Oilbama lied, the Gulf (and 11 men) died.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion.....gn-change/
Tim*| 6.21.10 @ 5:29PM
The Federal Government has Failed to do it's Constitutional Duty to protect Our Sovereign Borders from Illegal Invaders.
This is a Winning Issue , as polls demonstrate.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates .
134 Days To November 2nd.
Chris| 6.21.10 @ 5:43PM
I HAVE ONE WORD: UNEMPLOYMENT!!!!!!
Arizona has big concerns: its states and cities are insolvent, it has high social service expenses because of uncontrolled immigration, it has high kidnappings and organized crime from drug cartels, as well as high unemployment.
BUT THE REST OF THE COUNTRY IS DEALING WITH 3 YEARS OF 10-20% UNEMPLYMENT.
AND HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT MEANS THE AMERICAN VOTING PUBLIC WANTS THEIR JOBS SECURE FIRST AND THEIR UNEMPLOYED THE FIRST TO BE HIRED.
The liberals and democrats are obviously looking to create a hispanic caucus to dominate the electorate and that might work if the economy were on better footings but to push immigration during 10%-10% unemployment is to go against nearly the entire american public.
I just do not see how Obama or any democrat can be re-elected.
WAKE UP| 6.21.10 @ 9:02PM
Yep, let's sue Arizona. That'll bring the nation together. And America wants TWO MORE YEARS of this bullshit ?
Yah Bedaba| 6.21.10 @ 10:15PM
Peebo is goin down! Totally f'n ineligible to be Pres, wait till the republican leadership finds the noose around their necks too - Oh yeah, failing to uphold the oath is self conviction baby and - you can fill in the blanks on the rest of the gangs out come.
jstwndring| 6.22.10 @ 12:53AM
Correct me if i'm wrong, but, isn't it the authority of the legislative branch (state, fed) to create law? As long as that law doesn't violate the Constitutional Rights of U.S. citizens, can that law be overturned? Since when did we become a nation ruled by judges? I'll tell you when, Roe-v-Wade. Does anyone know why we revolted against England in the first place? They had been ruling over us with tyrannical judges. Guess what? They're back.
Osamas Pajamas| 6.22.10 @ 1:46AM
OhBummer is dumber than he thinks he is. Give AZ Governor Jan Brewer a microphone and 5 minutes later, OhBummer's hair will be on fire. What a jerk he is --- what a complete jerk.
Marc Jeric| 6.22.10 @ 2:18AM
No Sir - Abu Hussein al-Mombassa (or whichever Kenyan hellhole that Muslim was born in) is not a jerk: he is a revolutionary marxist unst0ppable, as you can see, in communizing America. Already nationalized are automobile companies, many banks, mortgage companies, with insurance and hospital companies coming in shortly; with the cap & trade scam he will nationalize oil & gas companies, coal mines, electric utilities, and all high energy using industries - aluminum smelters, steel mills, glass factories, trucking companies...
We are too late; after the phony election in 2012 (thanks to ACORN, SEIU, AFSCME, NEA, AFL-CIO) and following the amnesty of 20 million Mexican Indians he will be proclaimed in 2016 the President for life.
Mike_T| 6.27.10 @ 10:22AM
"Shecky" Obama, as Mark Levin calls him. A classic example of a flat out "statist"......period amen.......
Marc Jeric| 6.22.10 @ 2:09AM
Six yeras ago here in Nevada Harry Reid got elected by a majority of 560 votes (against Ensign). These votes were provided by the Culinary Union whose members are by large majority illegal aliens from Mexico; the union card is accepted by the casinos which "rely" on the union to verify the status of its members. The union was so happy with its "success" that it plastered big signs all over Las Vegas to that effect.
Why hasn't the ICE and/or FBI ever checked the union books? Speaking Spanish (I lived and worked 6 years in Mexico and Spain) I heard one worker instructing a new arrival how to become legal: "Just go the union building over there and they will give you papers to work here". This happened in the back of the Stratosphere Casino during a break - and one could see the Culinary Union headquarters building some 80 yards away.
Yosemeti Sam| 6.22.10 @ 2:37AM
" Obama Cracks Down ...."
Yeah - BHO, he the valiant baby ass kicker!
Or is it BHO the 'alleged' youth-time crack user/pusher whos' capitalistic experience thereby is now being brought to bear?
And yet, and yet - the circumlocutionary
dufus senator McGoo remains stridently mute
to the barrage of thunder and noise from Arizonas' extrajudicial Leftoid juries howling about a protective law strictly designed for Arizonan legal citizens: their lives, limbs and properties.
A law not to be confused with the ensconced snobbish privileges Leftoids demand for themselves in their purple enclaves.
Flipside| 6.22.10 @ 5:58AM
Being a liberal means there are no rules or laws. It means they can do what they want whenever they want. The gov. will just find a liberal judge that will provide cover and then lie their way to pass an amnesty program. With RINO's like, McCain, Snowe, Collins, Graham, Brown, liberals will get what they want, they always do. Otherwise they'll astroturf with union protests, take over gov. buildings, march the streets blocking traffic and commerce and show up at the homes of the opposition to harass and intimidate these people. But no it's the tea party and those old gray haired grannies that are so violent, mean and dangerous.
Purpleguy| 6.22.10 @ 8:00AM
How retarded can you be? Libertarianism, which you obviously confuse with Liberalism is much more likely to espouse belief in no or few laws. The rest is the same old boring Republican talking points.
Flipside| 6.22.10 @ 10:49AM
Purplegay, what is you major malfunction? Libertarianism? Retarded? Back at you punk. Open your eyes and read the current events.
These aren't talking points these are facts. Get your facts straight then come back and talk to me. Your leader and liberals in congress do whatever they want. Scam trillion dollar stimulus -Rahmed- through, which didn't create any jobs. Lying about the jobs they created, in fake zip codes published on their gov. website. Payoffs to unions and broke states. Illegal takeover of GM. Shutting down dealerships in GOP areas. Healthcare take over, forced mandate, bribes, kickbacks, union exemptions to pass the thing. Union thugs taking bus trips to the homes of wall street executives...why didn't they go to the homes of Frank and Dobbs they were the fools that caused the mortgage crash. Union thugs bused in showing up at the home, physically on the property, of a BofA executive..protesting what ? that they don't want to pay the 110MIL they owe to the bank. Firing of Ad General because he was investigating illegal payments and cooking of the books, by the Dem. mayor of Sacramento, a person friend of Obama and fundraiser...for what, the WH said the Ad Gen. was old and crazy....right. A liberal judge got the WH off the hook on that one, for now. All the programs,( drone attacks, wire tapping, etc.), that Bush put in place and blasted by liberals, esp. Obama. All of them still in place. More drone missions. Closing Gitmo. Never going to happen. Telling the world that KSM is guilty but but wanting to give him a fair trial in NYC, never going to happen. Suing AZ for mirroring and enforcing the current FED law on illegal immigration. The BP shake down, with no legal backing. Blanco, Rahm, Jesse Jr and the selling of Obama's senate seat... you think Obama had nothing to do with that? The illegal bribing of Administration jobs for two senator hopefuls in CO and PA so they would back out of their primaries. Please, go back to your Berkley tree house for a cold glass of purple Kool Aid.
Mikee_T| 6.27.10 @ 10:30AM
Purpleguy:
I get it now......you are scared to death to go out and compete for work based on ability. I totally get it now.....must "stack the deck" for people like you ......you must be a real "affirmative action" backer as well......god bless us all.......let's keep rewarding people for mediocrity...let's keep holding back qualified individuals for jobs so that "quotas" are met. You think this is the american way ? It isn't.......but what does it matter ? It's racial and social unrest coming to a head and you know what ? White males are sick and tired of it......we aren't taking this crap any more.......I did my time.....52 years old and a victim of "affirmative action" in New Jersey....The party is over if we can stop the illegal contigent (and ultimately straight left wing dem vote) before it's too late pal........Weep in November because it will be a monumental loss for leftists like you.......enjoy it while it lasts except I really don't get what you're so happy about unless of course you work for governenment or an arm of government like a non profit or huge union......makes me sick !!!!
jstwndring| 6.22.10 @ 1:18PM
Seriously, though, do the courts have the authority to overturn law that does not violate the Constitution? Everyone assumes that they do. But do they? My contention is that they do not. They are overstepping their authority when they try. It is the legislature that writes law, not the judiciary.
My point is that the courts can go ahead and make all the noise they want, but they cannot stop any state from writing/creating law. If we listened to the courts back in 1857 (Dred Scott), then slavery would still be legal. In that decision the U.S. Supreme Court upheld slavery. President Lincoln and Congress went ahead and ignored their ruling. If the Supreme Court is the "supreme law of the land" as we are taught, then why do we no longer have slavery? It is because the courts are not law, and do not rule us. No one can stop Arizona from writing and passing any law as long as no-one's civil liberties are being denied--and no, illegal immigrants do not have a claim on our civil liberties.
John II| 6.22.10 @ 9:34PM
If I may be allowed a final word on this thread, listen closely to how the Obamanation plays the McChrystal tune. When Constitutional order suits these bastards, they turn momentarily into strict constructionists.
But, politically, it's a lose-lose situation for the Professor. He has to show how tough he is in effecting his mealy-souled foreign policy. Looking forward to TAS's next postings.
Patriot1954| 6.24.10 @ 2:20PM
I believe that obama wants to destroy the united states and make it all a minority country until the time they can kill,breed the white race into history.I say to the people of the great state of ARIZONA,and all american citizens to work together and patrol the borders. If you see illegals make them happy to run back to mexico,and if they have weapons or drugs ,kill them where they stand,that will stop alot of them from comming here.Then take the mexican people living in our cities ,legal or illegal and if they are cought with weapons or drugs,send them home on the next bus and let them know if they are caught here again,they will be old when they get out of prison.Last but not least,BP do what you feel is the best thing to do when you are threatened by an illegal,deadly force if you have to,dont wait until they wound or kill a person,dont worry about odumma or holder,we the people will stand behind you all the way!Arizona will protect you. God Bless America!
David Ben-Ariel| 6.24.10 @ 2:22PM
Let Arizona shut the president usurper up real fast with the legitimate question, "Where's the birth certificate?" He wouldn't want the publicity that exposes him as a fraud and foreigner.
ONTIME| 6.24.10 @ 3:30PM
Deemers are consistent in actions and thought, you can count on them to do the wrong thing and most of the time it is intentional because it is going to benefit them. They are the Jackass party and here is another case where this particualr obstinance is associated with ignorance, Barry s bound and determined to again "do the wrong thing" to benefit the Deemers and it is almost certain that the state of AZ will deal him a well deserved slap in the head when the court ruling is passed down.
Consistency of ignorgant planning and circumstance, the oil spill, the lifting of a unwise moratorium, the C&T CO2 joke, the infamous backroom unread health care scam, which more states are going to got to court on soon or go broke trying to accomodate this stupidity, TARP Theft. You know that after the houses are reorganized that investigations to find out who this money went to and who recieved it are going to blossom like flowers on a spring plum tree. Oh, Barry if you fear confinement don't think you will be in that cell alone.