Liberals who bristle at being called socialists probably
shouldn't exit the house wearing Che Guevara T-shirts. They also
should avoid protesting, en masse, that President Obama, who in
only one year has substantially shifted American government to
the left, is too darned conservative. Both behaviors are like
standing in the foxhole and screaming as loudly as you can. They
tend to give away your position to the enemy.
This week, several thousand liberal activists gathered in
Washington to protest what they view as President Obama's
timidity in pursuing the hard-left agenda he promised
them.
"This is the greatest reform president since Lyndon
Johnson, and every progressive in the movement is dismayed and
disaffected," Robert L. Borosage, the co-director of the liberal
Campaign for America's Future, told the New York Times.
"Some of that is expectations that were shattered."
That quote says a lot. Borosage knows that Obama is the
most liberal president since Johnson. He knows that Obama is
moving the left's agenda more successfully than any president in
the past 40 years, and yet he is "dismayed and disaffected." How
on earth can that be? How can one see one's own ideology sustain
its greatest movement forward in close to half a century and be…
disappointed?
It takes a particularly extreme and rigid ideologue to
consider President Obama insufficiently liberal. They got
universal health care complete with compulsory coverage that will
induce gut-wrenching pain in the bowels of every libertarian in
the nation when it's time to whip out the checkbook and pay for
it, and still they're whining that the public option got
dropped?
But who can blame them for being a little bit confused?
Honestly, they don't know whether they or the conservatives are
the ones who were had.
Ever since Obama became the Democratic nominee in 2008, the
left has delivered two contradictory messages about him: 1) he is
a radical change agent who will fundamentally transform American
government, and 2) he is a common-sense moderate who will simply
undo the radical excesses of the previous administration.
These incompatible summaries of Obama were invented and
peddled by his own campaign. The couldn't both simultaneously be
true. But in the hands of a brilliantly talented politician, they
could both be made believable to their target audiences.
Obama told liberals that those rube middle-Americans were
clinging to their guns and religion because they were too
ignorant to know any better, and he was the one to enlighten
them. And he told middle America that Ronald Reagan was a
transformative president, bad teachers should be fired, we'd all
get to keep our current health plans, and he'd never, ever,
cross-his-heart-and-hope-to-die tax the middle class.
How out of touch is the left? It sees Obama raise taxes on
people of all incomes, mandate that every individual carry health
insurance, transfer close to $1 trillion in "stimulus" funds to
unionized and public-sector workers, take over General Motors,
join a foreign head of state in characterizing Arizonans as
racist, undo Bush's compromise on stem cell research and
Clinton's on gays in the military, and amass the greatest debt in
the history of the United States while pursuing Keynesian pipe
dreams… and it complains that he's not going far enough fast
enough.
Earth to the left -- it's been only a year and a
half!
It ought to be obvious to anyone acquainted with reality
that Obama's actions are far more leftist than his rhetoric. As
the left has its agenda slowly implemented, the middle is
starting to wonder why that nice guy with the cherub smile and
the smooth lines doesn't call anymore.
When the far left went after Clinton for Don't Ask, Don't
Tell and welfare reform and NAFTA, one could understand the
frustration. Clinton was an opportunist perfectly willing to sell
out the left for his own personal glory. That's gotta breed
resentment. But now that the far left is going after Obama for
being too centrist, it's hard to be sympathetic. You get the
feeling that these people would actually vote for Che Guevara if
they had the chance. And some of them would be disappointed if he
didn't duplicate here all the glories of the Cuban
Revolution.
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Tommy had finally come to his wits end. He stomped through the
house and found his father sitting, fuming at his desk,
attempting to pay all his federal mandate billings; health care
assessments, C02 forfeitures, recycling requisitions and the
like. Tommy asked, "Dad, can I ask you something?"
Tommy's dad stretched back from the desk with a huff, ran his
hands through his hair and shook his head as if in an attempt to
clear it, "What did you need, son?"
"I have been doing my American Spectator report for Social
History class and I can't understand something."
Tommy's father turned to him, "What's the matter?"
"Well, I've been reading all these articles and then, it hit me.
Why didn't someone indict Obama and others like him for
treason...? They had plenty of reasons. I mean, look what he did
to the Constitution, but no one did anything, I just don't get
it."
"I guess nobody had the stones, son. At least, nobody with any
'real' power."
"Stones? What's that, dad?"
"Never mind Tommy. Now, go back and finish your homework and
leave you old man to this mess before I have to take you and your
sister to the indoctrination tonight."
"Sorry, dad."
"Not a problem, son."
Alan Brooks| 6.11.10 @ 9:22PM
Obama is going to be re-elected, the GOP has been clueless since
the Soviet threat evaporated in 1991.
3 lost elections since 1991: '92, '96, '08.
Bush barely won in 2000.
So that makes 2004 the only real GOP presidential victory. Not
too good--eh?
Good, good, Alan, keep it up. The major danger for our side is
overconfidence; your continuing warnings are very helpful.
AMENBRO| 6.12.10 @ 1:41AM
It only takes one sperm to get pregnant,,,yawl,,,, .
At least Bush didn't try to steal all the furniture nor pardon
every lowlife with more than $100,000 after he got his ass
impeached for getting his PURPLE HAID polished. Course that's
well educated extremely intelligent liberal Nobel contender
behavior.
SHHHHAAAAZAm Where were you AL when the Republicans unseated JIM
"I Just Want to Help You" Wright. You remember him don't ya AL ?
Newt Gingrich back bench FIREBOMBED his ass. Mr.Bundled book
campaign contributions himself from the great state of Texas..
You fergettinl, a rich tapestry. 40 years of democrat rule in the
legislative branch of our country brought us the House Bank,
Congress not having to follow EEOC rules, Rowstenkowski.
CHARLIE
RANGELS CRACKER BROTHER SEPERATED AT BIRTH, cashing FRANKING
PRIVLEDGES postage at the House Post Office. He liked to steal
furniture and misappropriate office space money also. A few from
the many of wonderful ways the Compassionate Party had been
serving the People. WHERE YOU BEEN????
Remember the Contract with America. How bout the Welfare Reform
suppository they administered to Slick me Willie. 12 years of
Republican Rule with Reagan Course that evaporated threat also
vaporized as dust from TEARING DOWN Mr. Gorbachev's wall.
Recall that tadbit of inconvenient truth:
The Republican Revolution or Revolution of '94 is what the
Republican Party of the United States dubbed their success in the
1994 U.S. midterm elections,[1] which resulted in a net gain of
54 seats in the House of Representatives, and a pickup of eight
seats in the Senate. The day after the election, Democratic
Senator Richard Shelby of Alabama changed parties, becoming a
Republican.
The gains in seats in the mid-term election resulted in the
Republicans gaining control of both the House and the Senate in
January 1995. Republicans had not held the majority in the House
for forty years, since the 83rd Congress (elected in 1952) Large
Republican gains were made in state houses as well when the GOP
picked up twelve gubernatorial seats and 472 legislative seats.
In so doing, it took control of 20 state legislatures from the
Democrats. Prior to this, Republicans had not held the majority
of governorships since 1972. In addition, this was the first time
in 50 years that the GOP controlled a majority of state
legislatures.
Discontent against the Democrats was foreshadowed by a string of
elections after 1992, including the capture of the mayoralties of
New York and Los Angeles by the Republicans in 1993. In that same
year, Christine Todd Whitman captured the New Jersey governorship
from the Democrats and Bret Schundler became the mayor of
overwhelmingly Democratic Jersey City. Republican George Allen
won the Virginia governorship. Republican Kay Bailey Hutchison
took a senate seat from the Democrats in Texas. Republicans Frank
Lucas and Ron Lewis picked up two congressional seats from
Democrats in Oklahoma and Kentucky in May 1994.
Bush also packed the legislative branch.
Alan Brooks| 6.12.10 @ 8:42AM
"Good, good, Alan, keep it up. The major danger for our side is
overconfidence; your continuing warnings are very helpful."
Oh so you admit your people are prone to self-deceptive
tendencies such as overconfidence. Thank you for exposing your
main weakness. Shall keep it in mind always.
Christopher Holland| 6.13.10 @ 5:16PM
Your overconfidence comes from inability to understand the source
of problems and your capacity to address them. Liberals are
utterly clueless about America, they despise the country, its
people and its institutions and they want to destroy these. No
wonder the wheels are falling off. The problem with liberalism is
not overconfidence, it is clueless stupidity and contempt. You
know nothing and learn nothing. Liberalism is a bald man
insisting that a comb will solve everything.
Alan's Dad| 6.12.10 @ 10:57PM
Alan, Get your ass back in bed
Alan is delusion| 6.13.10 @ 6:44AM
Alan's math is a little Obama.
Alan's Mom| 6.13.10 @ 6:48AM
Alan, did you take your medicaton today?
Stop bothering these nice people.
Alan's Brother| 6.13.10 @ 6:50AM
Alan quit wearing my clothes, you dipstick.
Bob Jones| 6.13.10 @ 5:20PM
Alan, your Mommy's calling you to come upstairs for dinner.
Alan's Uncle| 6.13.10 @ 6:51AM
That boy just ain't right.
a third party| 6.13.10 @ 3:33PM
lol, pwn3d
Alan's Jockstrap| 6.17.10 @ 8:50PM
I'm feeling a little empty...
K962| 6.11.10 @ 6:46AM
The left will grow more and more violent. They see themselves as
losing power in November and they are growing panicky. Watch out
this summer!
Alan Brooks| 6.11.10 @ 9:27PM
No, the November losses will boost Obama's popularity when the
economy grows thanks to the new Congress's guidance starting next
January.
AMENBRO| 6.12.10 @ 1:46AM
Send me some of dem dare SSSCCCHHRRROMMMMMS you been ingesting
son,,LMFAO
Alan Brooks| 6.12.10 @ 9:03AM
If you stop the jive.
Bro, you can do it-- sho nuff!
BackToBasics| 6.13.10 @ 2:41AM
Just like under Clinton. The Republican Congress was the rudder
that allowed Clinton to tac the middle course with welfare reform
and better economic guidance which helped him very much. Sorry to
say, if the Republicans do gain control of Congress, I think it
will help Obam to win in 2012. This will NOT save our country
from the crash and breakup that are surely coming if we do not
stop the communist-government direction we are heading into now.
Those on the left may gloat about Obam and the current
Democrat-controlled agenda but they will be victims of this crash
just as much as those on the right will, so their gloating and
glee will be short-lived.
Ol' Goat| 6.13.10 @ 2:09PM
Take another bong hit, Alan and lull yourself back into the
delusional world you inhabit.
Christopher Holland| 6.13.10 @ 5:19PM
This is inaninty squared and cubed. Losing elections is the way
to achieve great things! This in not what you were saying in
2008, the story was different then. You couldn't make electoral
success work for you, so now you will achieve all with failure.
Give it a break, it is too early in the morning to read stupidity
like this
Stephanie| 6.11.10 @ 7:36AM
I hope the left does get rowdy, that way it will show the masses,
if they will look and pay attention, that it isn't the TEA party
folks, it's the progressives that throw a fit when they don't get
their way. I await the gathering storm.
RacerJim| 6.11.10 @ 10:15AM
I couldn't agree more. I look anxiously forward, guns loaded and
unlocked, to Civil War II!
Alan Brooks| 6.11.10 @ 8:56PM
"I couldn't agree more. I look anxiously forward, guns loaded and
unlocked, to Civil War II!"
The South lost the first one, and would lose the second one. The
South with its statist Fugitive Slave Act.
Old Soldier| 6.11.10 @ 9:22PM
I live in the "North". Funny that you think I would fight for
you.
Look at the Red / Blue map by county. Those are the battle lines.
Old Soldier| 6.11.10 @ 9:22PM
I live in the "North". Funny that you think I would fight for
you.
Look at the Red / Blue map by county. Those are the battle lines.
Alan Brooks| 6.11.10 @ 9:30PM
But you know very well the South is where the heart of the
Teaparty is. Denying so would be as dishonest as Yankees would be
if they were to deny that New England is where the heart of
liberalism is.
Alan Brooks| 6.11.10 @ 9:32PM
Do you remember where the Teaparty Convention was?
Nashville.
AMENBRO| 6.12.10 @ 1:49AM
OOOHHH AL how cliche you wascle you. that original material.You
guys come up with that yourselves???
Alan Brooks| 6.12.10 @ 9:19AM
It's just your jive talkin'
you're telling me lies, yeah
Jive talkin'
you wear a disguise
Jive talkin'
so misunderstood, yeah
Jive talkin'
You really no good
Ed Wallis| 6.12.10 @ 8:09PM
What a moronic statement...
...seeing as how the "Coffee" Party's event takes place in
Kentucky.
F'ing hypocrite.
Christopher Holland| 6.13.10 @ 5:21PM
Where does California fit into this model? Your geography leaves
a lot to be desired, geopolitics is clearly not your strongest
point.
Old Soldier| 6.13.10 @ 7:59PM
Yet thousands of people keep showing up on the green in
Morristown for every Tea Party, NJ now has a fiscally
conservative Governor.
There are just fewer big cities and big-city liberals in the
South to outvote the conservatives in the suburbs and rural
areas. Drive 50 miles west of NY, Boston, or Philly, and you are
in Tea Party land.
Tim*| 6.11.10 @ 10:47PM
Duuuhhhh ,We Tea Party Rebels are in The North ,The West ,The
East & The South.
Aaaand, It's " Locked & Loaded " .
Alan Brooks| 6.11.10 @ 10:57PM
Nah, without the South, the Tea Party Movement would be greatly
diminished. Just as without Mass, NY, Vermont, Connecticut, Rhode
Island,
liberalism would be almost nothing.
It is all quaint and provincial.
Tim*| 6.11.10 @ 11:31PM
You Are Full of Pork!
In just The Tea Party Patriots Faction alone there are :
120 Chapters in California.48 Chaptors in Connecticutt , 75
Chapters In Illinois , 44 in Indiana , 90 in New York , 45 in New
Jersey , 63 in Ohio , etc.
The Tea Party Patriots Faction and others boycotted that
factioned Nashville Convention .
rcv| 6.14.10 @ 9:53PM
Like the French revolutionaries and most other purist ideologues,
the tea baggers are now factioning and battling each other. Good
riddance to them all.
I dunno, Alan, Vermonters at least are starting to think twice
about some Liberal points of faith, anyway. And Maine is already
mostly lost. So don't be too confident; remember the Solid South
once meant Democratic.
Alan Brooks| 6.12.10 @ 9:22AM
"remember the Solid South once meant Democratic."
Because they are fickle?
Alan Brooks| 6.12.10 @ 9:26AM
"In just The Tea Party Patriots Faction alone there are
120 Chapters in California.48 Chaptors in Connecticutt , 75
Chapters In Illinois , 44 in Indiana , 90 in New York , 45 in New
Jersey , 63 in Ohio , etc.
The Tea Party Patriots Faction and others boycotted that
factioned Nashville Convention."
Again: the nucleus of the tea party movement is in the South,
just as the nucleus of American liberalism is in the
Northeast.
You will admit the latter, but you wont admit the former?
The map in patchworknation doesn't show that if the South and
North disappeared tomorrow, both the tea party and liberalism
would be crippled-- if you take six legs off a scorpion, it has
only two left.
Here's something much better to read:
"The libertarian wing of conservatism ought to be the portion
that non-leftist liberals and pragmatic moderates could negotiate
with. All three groups appear to be motivated by a shared set of
general goals. A dream of maximized individual opportunity and
freedom. An aversion to bossy accumulations of undue power. A
belief that unleashed human creativity can solve a vast array of
problems and that tomorrow could be better, as a result. These
commonalities ought to make for lively, good-natured debate over
the details, e.g., whether to use the state or laissez-faire or a
tuned-markets approach to solve this or that problem.
Why then, are most libertarians instead the most intransigent and
obnoxious of fuming dogmatists, contemptuous of practicality or
compromise, endlessly reciting nonsensical pseudo-religious
catechisms from the dunce-prophetess?
Cajoled by paid shills from the Cato, Heritage and American
Enterprise “institutes,” most libertarians and libertarian-minded
conservatives have been duped into calling government an
inherently satanic foe of Manichean dimensions. Indeed, they see
civil servants as the only force out there that’s inimical to
liberty, something that Adam Smith (mindful of 4,000 years of
history) would have found laughable. While worshipping at an
altar of private property (coaxed coincidentally by propaganda
paid for by billionaires), libertarians thus turn their gaze away
from the two desiderata that ought to be the movement’s core
focus:
Freedom and fair competition.
These are basic underpinnings of true markets, democracy, science
and justice—and history shows that government can foster them as
readily as hinder them. Just as private wealth can undermine
them, and has done so, in nearly all human societies. Only
through dynamic confrontation can the private and public realms
prevent each others’ worst excesses. But that fact is too complex
ever to be admitted by purists.
Freedom and fair competition. If these twin pillars again became
the main goals of the brighter-right, there would be a shift of
tectonic proportions. Libertarians and libertarian-minded
conservatives would sever all links to both populist
know-nothings and plutocrats. They would rescue what remains
worth saving, from their hijacked and shattered movement, and
thereupon rejoin us at the negotiating table, helping a coalition
of civilized adults in search of new, agile, and creative ways to
save civilization."
Who wrote the above? Find out for yourself-- you do YOUR
homework.
Tim*| 6.12.10 @ 6:03PM
I already have Pseudo-intellect bloviator.
Dude's just one more Colliefornia Secularist Pseudo-Intellect
Fictionist .
christopher holland| 6.13.10 @ 5:25PM
So liberalism is nothing but a geographical construct! Really,
does the liberal mothership know that you are preaching this
heresy to the natives you want to conquor. If liberalism is
almost nothing without the declining NE states, then liberalism
certainly has problems.
ruralcounsel| 6.14.10 @ 9:45AM
I attended the 2010 Tea Party rally on Boston Common...I'd say
it's prevalent across the country. My neighbors here in Vermont
are disgusted with Federal and State government. There's plenty
of rumblings about reinstituting freedom around here. Maybe not
in Burlington, but you know what they say about
Burlington...nicest little city close to Vermont.
The Blue/Red maps are right. This is a rural versus urban civil
war, and won't be anywhere near so neat and clean as the
North/South one. Think Bosnia.
carnot| 6.12.10 @ 8:02PM
maybe...but with a little luck...YOU
WON'T................:-).....collateral damage and all that.
Ned| 6.11.10 @ 11:42AM
I'm afraid that you give far too much credit to the lightweights
that put this con man in office. Economics is not the only thing
that they fail to understand - they are poorly educated on just
about everything.
Wasn't it Twain that said "It's not that [they] are ignorant,
it's that so much that they know is not true." Or words to that
effect...
Obozo's supporters actually think that "Bush deregulated
everything..." (like what, for instance?), that "the stimulus is
working..." (10% unemployment, anyone?), and that ObozoCare will
"reduce the cost of health care..." (despite abundant evidence to
the contrary...)
Good heavens, some of the folks still think that John Maynard
Keynes knew what the hell he was talking about - they may not
know his name, but they believe that his fairytale theories work
in the real world, just like they did in 1930.
Alan Brooks| 6.11.10 @ 11:13PM
"undo Bush's compromise on stem cell research"
Obama did the right thing.
FTM| 6.12.10 @ 3:35PM
I did some research on Keynes. Keynes was a genius, no doubt. His
ideas in regards to deficit spending in an economic downturn are
for the most part wrong as history has shown.
Keynes' main thesis though is that people need a strong central
government to direct their lives for them based on the idea
(Great Depression Era) that people were too poorly educated,
preoccupied and basically too stupid to take care of themselves,
politically, socially and financially.
Unfortunately, like it or not, Keynes was for the most part
right. How does an imbicile like Obama get elected to the highest
office in the land to start with? Think about it.
Clinton nee Publius| 6.11.10 @ 8:20PM
The reality is that the violence is just beginning as the
failures of liberal-progressivism always require a scapegoat to
justify the failure, because; once people start questioning
liberal-progressive mantra they realize there are no sustainable
principles at the core of this "movement. The reality is there is
only stealing money under the color of authority and disbursing
it amongst the participants in the movement as if we hadn't had
enough of feudalism in the Middle Ages.
This means we will have a violent summer. I know I will be doing
my best to agitate the violence to a point of civil war. This is
our time and we can permanently eradicate the liberal conspiracy
cult once and for all if we will only stand up and do the deed.
The job remains unfinished and history will judge as having
failed to meet the test if we do not do what is necessary so that
future generations may have clean earth to till in a world ruled
by liberty and freedom instead of tyranny, want and endless
suffering.
Alan Brooks| 6.12.10 @ 9:28AM
but you still want govt to give funds to your grandparents?
ruralcounsel| 6.14.10 @ 9:56AM
No. I want the government to return the taxes they took under the
false promises of Social Security and Medicaire/Medicaid.
The government has nothing to give that it hasn't taken away from
someone else. It's nothing but a giant fund transfer mechanism,
usually producing nothing of value in the process. Because the
process is guided by our national politics.
Two-party government with a Congress that determines spending is
inherently unstable in a nation of our size and complexity.
RCV| 6.14.10 @ 9:59PM
Ah, the true colors of the self-described "American patriot"!
Stirring up violence because they lost at the ballot box. I hope
the ATF picks you up on its next sweep of
Timothy-McVeigh-wanabees. Our good men and women in our police
units and military can take of you loose nuts.
martin j smith| 6.11.10 @ 7:48AM
The " far left" will never be satisfied unless our nation is
totally destroyed. Then the really wealthy ones will move to
France and laugh all the way to the bank. The others, well too
bad for them.
Having said that I would say, if no one understand the connection
between Obama's history and associations and his current actions
they are a) in total denial, b) stupid, c) lying d ) they come
from outer space.
In clonclusion: BHO is a Communist, hard core.
and much of his inner cirlce are too as well the core left of the
senate and house Democrats.
I think it is time to stop playing the game of PC.
Recently I got a DNC mailing sined offf b y Billy Boy himself
essentially calling the Republican Party the Party of NO. Well
that should be turned around as the Party of Hell NO to Communism
in American !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And wear that proudly.
Alan Brooks| 6.12.10 @ 9:30AM
"Then the really wealthy ones will move to France"
Why would they move there if Muslims are so prevalent? And why
France, why not some other country? Why not Australia?
coal carrier| 6.11.10 @ 8:02AM
When I was a young man, starting out in my career, I applied for
a position that required a secret clearance with a specific
federal agency. The FBI started its background investigation and
I was granted a clearance in 6 weeks, which was really quick,
because I was so young. I was 21. There was another individual at
this time that was also applying for a position. After three
months or so he was denied a clearance and had to seek employment
elsewhere. He said that he was told that he was denied a
clearance because he visited his neighborhood bar too often. The
security agency said that he was a security risk. Too many whisky
sours had a tendency to loosen lips. Security information could
slip out in a casual conversation with a stranger at the bar. You
see in 1966, the Federal Government didn’t fool around when it
came to national security. If they thought you were a risk, you
were not given a security clearance and you wouldn’t be working
in an area where you may compromise national security.
Now, 44 years later, we have an individual in the White House who
frequented a church for 20 years that advocated the overthrow of
this nation. Rubbed elbows with terrorists and radicals who
bombed the Pentagon. Smoked dope. Refuses to display his birth
certificate and school records. Has hired a slew of Marxists
radicals in his administration and now he is allowed to see and
hear the most top-secret information with regards to the security
of this nation. All while the Secret Service protects him to do
so.
Ladies and gentlemen, what is wrong with this picture? May God
help our great nation come November 2010 and 2012.
drudge ette obama| 6.11.10 @ 8:19AM
Fabulous post.
If it hasn't hit anyone yet why Obama continues these ruinous
policies while the world economy is where it is, then they
shouldn't vote.
He is either arrogantly self-driven to it by ideology or the
dumbest idiot ever. Or both.
You may wish for God to help us, but so doesn't the enemy. We
must help ourselves. Now. With money and our voices. This is not
silly politics anymore.
RacerJim| 6.11.10 @ 10:22AM
Indeed, given that Obama said in his book "Dreams of My Father"
that as a college student he sought out and associated himself
with radical Communists, Marxists, Leninists, Socialists and
Black Ideologists there's no way in hell he should have even the
lowest national security clearance. Incredible.
May God indeed Save our country asap.
Margie| 6.11.10 @ 11:18AM
I agree, fabulous post, coal carrier. And now the question is,
will the voters who refused to vote for the opposition Republican
party last time, and wouldn't cast their votes for McCain/Palin
do it again? Or have they learned their lesson~has it hit them
personally enough yet what the cold hard facts are, of having a
true Marxist in the White House? How low must we go before we all
wake up to this reality?
It ain't gonna get any better!
S.L. Toddard| 6.11.10 @ 1:58PM
"the question is, will the voters who refused to vote for the
opposition Republican party last time, and wouldn't cast their
votes for McCain/Palin do it again?"
Absolutely.
Margie| 6.11.10 @ 2:07PM
That'd please you, wouldn't it?
Alan Brooks| 6.11.10 @ 11:18PM
McCain was only nominated because he had been tortured in
'Nam.
Dole was only nominated because he has a withered arm from being
wounded in Italy during WWII.
Craig Goodrich| 6.12.10 @ 12:36AM
Actually, that may explain why they both became Senators, but
they were nominated by an unimaginative Republican establishment
mostly because it was Their Turn.
On the other hand, it seems to me that both of these sacrifices
display a dedication to the ideals of America substantially
beyond what we have seen from any of the more with-it crowd of
hip-hop politicians that apparently control Washington now.
Your point is?
Margie| 6.12.10 @ 12:38AM
Obama was only nominated because he is half black.
Some brainiacs would rather see the Republicans lose rather than
see the Democrats lose.
So does Satan.
Tim*| 6.12.10 @ 12:11PM
Then , you have recanted your sins & now support The
Republican Candidate Rand Paul .
Bless You Apocalyptic Church Lady .
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
We Can See November From Our Tea Party Houses.
Margie| 6.12.10 @ 4:25PM
Rand Paul is a Libertarian is Republican's clothing, and is a
fruit from the tree of his father. Both of them registered
Republican in order to get elected. Libertarians are Leftists,
not conservative.
Read David Horowitz for an expose on the Leftist Libertarian
mindset. I am not fooled. The Leftist anti-Semites like you don't
fool the majority of us, Timmy* boy Insult all you wish!
Uh Oh !
Apocalyptic Margie Plays The Anti-Semite Card .
Well Margie , You Israel Firster NeoConservative Types foisted
The Serial Traitor to Conservatism , John McCain & Israel
Firster RINO-CINO's Arlen Specter on The Republican Party .
We ,Tea Party Rebels Fell Off Your NeoCon Sled & Won't Play
Your "VOTE FOR ANY REPUBLICAN " Lie .
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
We Can See November From Our Tea Party Houses.
Margie| 6.12.10 @ 11:30PM
True, one of us is lying.
Tim*| 6.13.10 @ 12:26AM
Yeah , Phoney Margie You Are.
Margie| 6.11.10 @ 3:22PM , over at : A Leak In The Presidency
:
" It means that liberals need to wake up and spit out the
Kool-Aid...and that conservatives should put aside differences,
band together, and elect as many Republicans as possible. "
Wash Out You're Lyin' Mouth With Soap ,You Bad Thing.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Remember In November .
BackToBasics| 6.13.10 @ 2:55AM
The Tea Party and the grassroots movement it represents will be
undone totally if Congress paases amnesty or if Obam signs an
Executive order to grant amnesty which I would not put past him.
The Demographics are shifting to the left faster than most
everyone thinks including the Tea Partiers who are still thinking
that the Old Rules will apply. Amnesty will totally throw out the
Old-Rules-win-by-legitimate-numbers voting that was "mostly" in
place until the 1990's. The Tea Party and our Republic are
largely finished within 3 presidential elections unless we can
stop the massive illegal immigration.
Tim*| 6.13.10 @ 8:30AM
We ,Tea Party Rebels have been well aware of the demographics
& the recent joy of The Mainstream Media in reporting
it.
This is one reason why we oppose The Serial Traitor to
Conservatism John McCain for His attempted McCain-Kennedy Bill .
Just as the high Arab -Muslim birth rate will undo Margie's
Israel Firster Agenda , the high Hispanic Birth Rate , unless
countered , will undo the Culture , Affiliations , Traditions ,
as well as , the Economic & Political Atmosphere of America.
We ,Tea Party Rebels have been in the forefront of stopping
Illegal Invaders coming into Sovereign U.S. Territory across our
borders.
Margie| 6.13.10 @ 11:22AM
Timmy* is revealing his anti-semitic self once again. The
Libertarian Leftist Paul-bot mind is truly a sad and despicable
one. Anyone who proclaims the truth about that mindset and who
backs Israel our ally will be especially hated. Some will be
stalked around the internet by them and their vile hatred will be
poured fourth continuously. The Leftist Libertarians and
Paleo-con-artists cannot bear our existence, just as they cannot
bear the existence of the Jews.
As to the Pauls, anyone who does their research knows that they
are deceitful non-interventionist whackos, and as I said
registered Republican in order to get elected. It's the only way
they could. Paul-bots are absolutely blinded by their hatred and
refuse to admit the truth. Rand Paul is aligned with Adam Kokesh,
the Anti-American, Israel hating scumbag who aligns himself with
Code Pink. Just google their names together.
Now, if the Pauls are truly Libertarian Leftists and registered
as Republicans in order to get elected, that would truly make
them RINO's. So Timmy*'s voting for RINO's, LOL. Now, Timmy*,
don't you worry your vile little heart, the Muslims aren't going
to cancel out my vote sweetheart. Most Americans just aren't as
stupid as you paint us out to be.
Timmy* the stalker, who proclaims his adoration of Sarah Palin
but refused to vote for McCain/Palin because his hatred of a
United States Military war hero and pro-Israel man was stronger.
You continue to reveal your insanity each time you stalk me,
there sicko.
Tim*| 6.13.10 @ 12:44PM
Uh Oh !
For Zany Margie , this is about the Republican Candidates from
Texas & Kentucky.
Duuuhhhhh !
Didn't ya get the memos ?
Sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul.
As for The Serial Traitor to Conservatism John McCain .
I oppose McCain-Kennedy , McCain-Lieberman , McCain-Feingold ,
McCain-Feingold , The Gang of 14 , McCain's Opposing The 2001
& 2003 Tax Cuts , aaaand TARP .
If ya can't take The Tea Party Heat ,then shove off .
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
We Remember In November.
Margie| 6.13.10 @ 12:56PM
Wow, Timmy*~ Sarah Palin was on the Presidential ticket, loser!
Sarah Palin could have been our Vice President, next in line if
something were to have happened to McCain, yet you hypocrite, you
refused to vote for the ticket!
Blinded by your anti-semitism you cut off your nose just to spite
your face!
Now preach on, Timmy*!
Tim*| 6.13.10 @ 1:17PM
I know .
Aaaaaand She Endorses Rand Paul ,Hypocrite Faux-Church Lady .
Margie| 6.13.10 @ 12:35PM
The quote you accredited to me, (and with which I agree and
practice), stalker Timmy* is not my quote. Tim* cannot read, nor
can he reason.
And if Timmy* the stalker and anti-semite agreed with the quote
himself, he would have voted for McCain/Palin, but said he
refused to. Yet he labels me as a hypocrite, LOL.
Tim*| 6.13.10 @ 1:12PM
Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha !
Duuuuhhh !
I quoted your post.
(Margie| 6.11.10 @ 3:22PM , over at : A Leak In The Presidency
)
You always post hypocritically " Vote for Republicans ".
Rand Paul is The Republican Party Candidate for Senate in The
Commonwealth of Kentucky & Ron Paul His Father is A
Republican Party Candidate from Texas .
I guess like Bubba Clinton , with you , it depends on what the
meaning of " is " is.
Aaaand , I Put In A Protest Vote & Wrote In My
Brother-In-Law.
A Fine & Upstanding Lad , I might add.
Now, hold that thought ,Sweetheart .
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates .
We Can See November from Our Tea Party Houses.
Margie| 6.13.10 @ 1:28PM
Tsk, tsk. Twisted Timmy* lies again. You are the perfect example
of what Bob Grant was just talking about on his radio program
this afternoon. He said that the (some) of TEA partiers won't
vote for a Republican unless they're "conservative" enough. You
prove his point, loser. You Paul-bots are insane!
As for Rand Paul, you lied and accused me of something untrue
(again). I have said before that if he were to become the
Presidential nominee I would vote for him. You never even
actually ASKED me the question though. You just post that I am a
liar, hypocrite, et al.
It is YOU who is the liar, and the hypocrite. It is YOU who helps
to hand over the election the the Left. And why? Because you are
insane.
You refused to vote for McCain/Palin and therefore you don't
really care about winning. The election was lost due to your
insane way of thinking, and you are going to do it again.
All the while throwing stones at me, that is very funny, but
pathetic.
Tim*| 6.13.10 @ 1:44PM
Cuckkooo !
Foist , Zany Margie posts :
" As to the Pauls, anyone who does their research knows that they
are deceitful non-interventionist whackos, and as I said
registered Republican in order to get elected. It's the only way
they could. Paul-bots are absolutely blinded by their hatred and
refuse to admit the truth. Rand Paul is aligned with Adam Kokesh,
the Anti-American, Israel hating scumbag who aligns himself with
Code Pink. Just google their names together.
Now, if the Pauls are truly Libertarian Leftists and registered
as Republicans in order to get elected, that would truly make
them RINO's. So Timmy*'s voting for RINO's, LOL. Now, Timmy*,
don't you worry your vile little heart, the Muslims aren't going
to cancel out my vote sweetheart. Most Americans just aren't as
stupid as you paint us out to be. "
Now Silly Margie posts :
" As for Rand Paul, you lied and accused me of something untrue
(again). I have said before that if he were to become the
Presidential nominee I would vote for him."
Sooooo,you go crazy against Rand Paul ( Who We ,Tea Party Rebels
Support ) , and yet now You say that you'd vote for him for
President .
Cuckooo ! Cuckoooo !
Margie| 6.13.10 @ 1:49PM
Twisted Timmy* likes playing games, doesn't he? That's right,
Timmy*. What I said is correct and truthful about the Pauls.
And unlike you, I am true to my word. I vote Republican. Always.
Unlike you, I may not like the candidate, but I am electing the
party behind the man. Unlike you, I can understand how that
works.
Idiot.
Tim*| 6.13.10 @ 2:04PM
Ha, Ha, Ha ,Ha !
Let's get this straight .
You , Margie say , " Rand Paul is aligned with Adam Kokesh, the
Anti-American, Israel hating scumbag who aligns himself with Code
Pink. "
Now ,ya say you'd vote for Him , as President .
Holy Crap , Margie !
By your own standards and your frequent and angry accusations ,
that makes you an Anti-Semite .
You Are Completely Nuts !
Margie| 6.13.10 @ 2:30PM
That's right. loser. I will vote for the Republican nominee in
order to keep a Democrat from winning.
You, on the other hand, will either not vote, or write in your
brother-in-law in order to gusrantee that the Democrat will win.
That's the difference. I will for for the party in order to stop
the Democrats. Something you cannot relate to in your warped
mind.
Mock on, Timmy*.
Margie| 6.13.10 @ 3:08PM
Sarah Palin also backed Meg Whitman for gov. in California. OOooh
Timmy* boy, now what?
Sarah Palin is smart enough to know that a Republican candidate
should be backed, rather than a Democrat. Why is it that the
loony Paul-bots, claimers of the TEA party (which they are NOT!)~
cannot understand this?
Liberalism is a mental disorder. Libertarianism is Liberalism
cloaking itself as conservative.
They will sell their ever loving souls before voting for someone
not considered "conservative" enough, including McCain/Palin, as
displayed by Timmy* the stalker. All the while yelling
"Hypocrite!" to those of us who, like Sarah Palin, do the right
thing.
Read David Horowitz.
Radegunda| 6.12.10 @ 2:42PM
You're right. A white man with Obama's resume and personal
history and character traits would never have gotten the same
adulation from the Dems. That's partly because a white man with
Obama's academic record and ability would not have gotten into
Harvard Law, much less been chosen as president of the law
review.
And Republicans would have been more inclined to make a big deal
out of his glaring defects if not for the race factor.
The people who claim that criticism of him is race-based have it
180 degrees wrong.
AMENBRO| 6.12.10 @ 1:52AM
DEEEEP DEEEP thinking there Al. Woooah.
Interstellar insightful sir.
Maybe you should audition for the next WOWW that's a low price
comercial.
Alan Brooks| 6.12.10 @ 9:35AM
You should audition for the part of Louise on 'The Jeffersons'.
Alan Brooks| 6.12.10 @ 9:38AM
"... but they were nominated by an unimaginative Republican
establishment mostly because it was Their Turn."
That's even worse!
BackToBasics| 6.13.10 @ 3:14AM
You're right about that. Many leftists do not seem to see the
distinctions between a Republican establishmnet candidate and
someone who is truly conservative. Anyone to the right of Ted
Kennedy is seen by most leftist as the "far-right." As much as I
disagree with the direction of establishmnet types like the
Bushes, Dole, McCain, etc. the Republican party seems to have a
broader spectrum of political thought than the Democrats do. That
is noted in the disctinction you made about Establishments
Republicans meaning there are those more to the right than those.
But, it seems like 99% of Democrats just want a
socialist-communist state. There's just this great leap to the
left on the Dems part from what I see. Forty years ago that was
not true, but today, the Dems seem to march in lockstep like
lemmings over the socialist-communist precipice.
Christopher Holland| 6.13.10 @ 5:27PM
Fortunately for you, the constitution has no prohibition on
stupidity. Liberals make full use of this
RCV| 6.14.10 @ 10:05PM
The Secret Service protects him because he was elected by the
American people to be our President. That's what they're supposed
to do. And we elected him President because he promised to enact
sweeping health care reform, begin to reregulate the
out-of-control financial entities, end the Bush tax cuts for the
wealthiest of Americans, stop destroying America's moral
leadership by ending shameful torture, and restore diplomacy to a
foreign policy that had degenerated to a "bring-em-on" mentality.
And that's what he's done. You lost the election; get over it and
stop whining.
Bill Hussien O'Stalin| 6.11.10 @ 8:06AM
Actually, the far left should not get too excited because it's
obvious Obama is one of them and they must work as a group.
Although on the surface they claim to disdain wealth, it's their
sole desire to take someone else's in the form of taxes or other
confiscatory schemes. Their ultimate goal is always to amass
wealth themselves.
They become community organizers and engage in other mindless
activities, mainly because they don't have the intelligence to
run an entity that requires real thought.
George True| 6.11.10 @ 10:48AM
You are so right. It is always about the money with these people.
They always claim they are motivated by "fairness", or that it's
being done "for the children", or some other such mindless
claptrap. But always, always, it is about enriching themselves
financially, and always at the expense of the very downtrodden
they claim to be helping. There is a dark spiritual element to it
all. At their core, they are driven by covetousness. They
themselves do not have the ability to honestly earn wealth, or
they are not willing to go "Hank Reardon" for ten or twenty
years, sacrificing everything for decades to get there. So
instead, they concoct plans to take it from the productive among
us, and to pass all manner of destructive taxes upon all, and
distribute the largesse to themselves. So while they pontificate
about "fairness", it is all about them coveting what others have
earned and taking it from them.
carnot| 6.11.10 @ 11:28AM
Mr Gore does have a lot of houses!!!
JimH| 6.11.10 @ 8:14AM
At one level the One has to enjoy these demonstrations because
they allow him to claim that he is governing from he middle.
Ned| 6.11.10 @ 11:49AM
"Enjoy?" His band of thugs orchestrates the demonstrations to
give him cover as a "moderate"... that's Political Disinformation
101, and the Alinsky crowd has VAST experience misrepresenting
themselves (to the ignorant masses)
Nancy| 6.11.10 @ 4:35PM
The middle of what...hell? I contend that it is Obama's overall
purpose to completely destroy the economy and what is left of our
Republic. He already knows that he's a one termer, and doesn't
care. The plan is for a fundamental change from a republic to a
communist socialist regime. And he's doing a fine job of
achieving just that.
Howard| 6.11.10 @ 9:10AM
I don't see Obama as a purely doctrinaire leftist; more of a
thug, Chicago, politician. Hence, he will send more drone
aircraft to Afghanistan than Bush did. But, he will also take
over GM, because it gives him power, not because of some pure
ideology about nationalizing business. He has chips to cash in
there. I think part of the problem also, is that he is passive,
all of the "present" votes in the IL Senate. He outsourced the
Stimulus bill to Obey, Pelosi, and Reid. They are the real
leftists. They want 90% marginal taxes, a weak military, and
government ownership. Obama is an empty suit.
REt. Marine| 6.11.10 @ 9:35AM
You need to do some more research, it was the members of the
TIDES foundation SEIU, Communist party members who wrote almost
all of the current legislation in process, dingy harry Reid, san
fran nanny Pelousy for the better part are lazy and power hungry
and willing to let others do the dirty work for them as to claim
they did not do this to our Country, but of course we all know
they are all liars to the first order nonetheless.
Howard| 6.12.10 @ 9:26AM
Pure fantasy on your part. Obey had been waiting 40 years to
write that bill. He didn't need a bunch of pinkie ring union
thugs to tell him what to do. The end result may please them,
but, Obey didn't need help.
Nancy| 6.11.10 @ 4:39PM
More research needed. The suit may be empty, but the pockets are
getting fuller. Check out the Chicago Climate Exchange, and
Obama's part. He will make millions (if not billions) through the
crap and trade deal. It's convulted, by design, but Al Gore is
involved as well as Franklin Raines, Goldman Sachs and lots of
others. Follow the money.
Ret. Marine| 6.12.10 @ 7:13AM
Been there done that and have the proof on file. Anyone care to
really know where the "won" got his money to steal America?
martin j smith| 6.11.10 @ 9:33AM
Howard, Doctrinaire left and thuggery go together quite well.
They are not mutually exclusive.
Howard| 6.12.10 @ 9:31AM
They may complement each other, but they are philosophically
different. Strategy vs. tactics. Leftists/Progressives/Marxists
have an overarching worldview. It is called Communism. Thug
politicians do not look beyond their nose. They want power,
money, and good seats at a ball game. They would sell Lenin the
rope he would hang them with.
Louis Jenkins| 6.11.10 @ 9:48AM
"He knows that Obama is moving the left's agenda more
successfully than any president in the past 40 years, and yet he
is "dismayed and disaffected."
Could it be that the Pretender n Chief has had a change of heart?
Naw, Naw, Naw. Wrong again.
John Kirk| 6.11.10 @ 10:32AM
Here's the old problem: in the 20th Century lots of non-left
people hated the Left's ideas. Here's the new problem: in the
21st Century even the Left hates the Left's ideas. Obama &
Pelosi are being cursed for actually implementing the policies
the Left claims to desire. The fantasy of free health insurance
is a lot more appealing than the reality of the government
forcing you to pay for health insurance. The Left, Right &
Center all hate the idea of being forced to pay for health
insurance. The only difference is the Right & Center were
honest about this before Obama took office. I predict we are
going to see the Left cursing Obama on foreign policy, energy,
immigration. It will not be pretty or pleasant, but it will be
educational.
carnot| 6.11.10 @ 11:27AM
John...the Left is attacking Obama, Pelosi, et al, for not
implementing the full agenda fast enough...not for the realities
of the actual policies.
Paul| 6.11.10 @ 11:45AM
When is someone going to have the courage to call for impeachment
of this president?
" You get the feeling that these people would actually vote for
Che Guevara if they had the chance."
This is only error in an otherwise superb post, and a minor one
at that. Che Guevara supporters - like the Woody Allens and Tom
Friedmans in America - are not interested in voting. They want
leftward change, even if it means literal gunplay. In fact, I
suspect many of them would like that better than having it done
the boring old legal way, through endless, stifling regulations.
RCV| 6.14.10 @ 10:10PM
The only people I hear talking about gunplay instead of electoral
politics are on this website. See above for examples.
P.S. I don't have the link anymore but some commenter on HotAir
put it as well as I've ever seen it put: "Waa! Waa! Obama, you
stink. You're not turning the country into a communist hellhole
fast enough! Waa! Waa!"
As a left, anarchist, liberal, I agree with this article. The
left is too hard on Obama, because he isn't selling them out.
It's akin to the radical Republicans giving Lincoln a hard time,
because he was perceived as being too 'centrist' on the slavery
issue.
Margie| 6.12.10 @ 12:43AM
Just curious, do you refer to yourself as a Libertarian as well?
GeeOhPeaSuhX| 6.11.10 @ 1:50PM
Wow!!! Great post!!!! You are so smart and great!!
We all have our guns ready to get all these people...loaded and
ready to fire at will!!!
Don't tread on me!!
These colors don't run!!
Take my counrty back!!!
coal carrier| 6.11.10 @ 5:10PM
We don’t need guns. That is just what they want us to do. We need
an educated electorate to pull the handles for small government,
low tax conservative candidates come November 2010 and then in
2012. We need to kill them at the polls.
Average Infidel| 6.12.10 @ 7:18AM
I agree with you on this one, however, you must seriously
consider when the first shot is heard, many of out here in the
fly-over country know and have marked our own lefty's as targets,
we are determined to get them out of our live at any expense,
even gun-play. Time to stop playing around with the
feely-touchy-idiots and make them make a decission, freedom or?
RCV| 6.14.10 @ 12:44PM
Happily, you're probably already on ATF's list along with the
rest of you Timothy McVeigh-would bes.
Oldefarte| 6.11.10 @ 2:21PM
In repeating myself, Obama SOLD himself and his agenda as
MODERATION so as to become elected. Otherwise, he would not have
stood A CHANCE IN HADES of reaching 1600. Using the old Roman
wooden/trojun horse war structure/mechanism as a model, he
stealthed himself into the presidency by masquerading as a
MODERATE agent of change. We should have but did not realize then
that his change meant what Andrew now describes. Again, also, the
one/only way to CORRECT our previous mistake is by voting for
true change in November plus!!!!!!!
Margie| 6.11.10 @ 2:53PM
Does true change have a party? Come on, Oldefarte, say it and
take the risk I always do of being slandered and maligned. You
know as well as I do and everyone else that the party opposed to
the Marxist Democrats is the REPUBLICAN party.
Until we decide upon facing it and stop bashing it and others who
tell the blunt truth then we will continue to get "the government
we deserve".
And like the Toddards, (see above), the Left will continue to
rejoice in our stupidity. (not you, I am saying those who think
this way)!
Oldefarte| 6.11.10 @ 4:14PM
Margie, The one/only time that I voted for a Democrat in my 64
years on this planet was for Edwin Edwards against David Duke [no
other explanation should be necessary]. Sadly, the Republicans
have put forth candidates [ie Dole, McCain, Ford,etc] which were
Democrat-lites. In the last election, McCain could/should have
gone after Obama [Palin wanted to do so but was overruled] as to
his/Obama's true personae; and the end result was that Obama is
now President. Excluding the Democrat Party as nothing but
radicals, Hollywood and college eggheads; the Republican Party
still needs to come out of the political CLOSET and tell it like
it is to the basically moderate voting public. If and when they
do, they'll support candidates such as Rand Paul, Michelle
Bachmann, Sarah Palin, and [maybe] Mitt Romney as representatives
who can/will get this country back upon solid
financial/political/economic footing that will prevent its
destruction and guarantee its survival!!!!!!!!
Oldefarte| 6.11.10 @ 4:20PM
PS [Margie]----Reagan had the right idea economically with tax
cuts, but failed by not getting governmental budgetary expanse
reductions [had to spend money on military but failed to rein in
social welfare expendatures increases since Johnson's Great
Society]. What's needed is [from my limited knowledge of his
accompolishments] a Chris Christie type federal presidency!!!!!
Margie| 6.11.10 @ 5:44PM
Well Oldefarte,
McCain/Palin STILL would have been FAR better than this Marxist
admin and that's my whole point! Never will we have a perfect
candidate no matter who they are.
It's either the party of Marxists or the party of FREEDOM. It's
our choice and our responsibility.
I'm all for conservatives winning. When somebody says to me,
"Well, I'm for conservatives winning!" I say OK~ and who isn't?
(except for certain Libertarians who will not vote but for a Paul
type).
It reminds me of the Lefties who say, "I want clean air and clean
water!" As if the rest of us don't.
Ha. They cried that Christie was a RINO. They cried that voting
for McCain/Palin wasn't good enough. These are the same people
that will hand the election back over to Obummer. They will get
the government they truly deserve but not only that but they will
subject the rest of it to it as well!
Christ Christie would make a good President, I agree, so far as
we can tell. He has no fear, believes in God, is a family man,
and understands that shrinking government and not punishing
citizens by taxing them to death is the way to go. True change is
only going to come by way of the Republican party.
The one thing we can actually thank Obama for is for the fact
that he has woken the sleeping giant. Now if we can all actually
decide to vote him out of office. Can we pull together and do it
is the question?
The Marxist boot on the neck~ have we had enough yet? (again, I
am not addressing you personally but to those who are
wavering.)
ANY Republican is better than ANY Democrat. There are NO
Marxists, no Communists in the Republican party.
Margie| 6.11.10 @ 5:46PM
Oops, typo. Should be Chris Christie, above.
RCV| 6.14.10 @ 12:47PM
Please, we Democrats are begging. Please run Sarah Palin and
Michelle Bachman and Rand Paul. Please.
guy| 6.11.10 @ 3:41PM
Mr Cline,
I'm curious. How many voters are actually what you would call "
the far left"?
I think we all make a false assumption that they are a much
larger group than they really are because of their numbers in the
House and the Senate, and because of who lives in the White
House.
I'll bet they are less than 10% of voters and that they are able
to control another 20% of mindless idiots who will do as they are
told.
I think that the current number of them at the highest levels of
government is an anomaly brought about by their infiltration of
the democrat party and by a well-deserved voter revolt against
the republican party.
I think that in order to defeat this enemy we must know their
real numbers and their real strengths. While they are certainly
not going to be a push-over to destroy, they are certainly not as
strong as people make them out to be. They are simply LOUD.
To paraphrase Alinsky, we need to identify them and isolate them
and ridicule them.
Nancy| 6.11.10 @ 4:51PM
I agree. You only find these idiots in the media, Hollywood and
academia. The rest of the country feels like Alice down the
rabbit hole. Everything is upside down. And they are loud, and
get the coverage.
We just need to do what needs to be done...get the vote out in
November. Hopefully, the morons will stay home (no president to
elect) and we can make effective change in the House and Senate.
Otherwise, the gig is up.
martin j smith| 6.11.10 @ 4:44PM
As I hear news about the Gulf Oil Situation,about Obama's moves
against Israel, about the vote to give the EPA power to control
energy against the will of the voter I feel more and more that
what we have is a trojan horse president--we have a man called
the President of the United States purposefully trying to destroy
us. I think at the very least even though the votes are not there
yet, the subject of impeachment should be raised. In addition
another factor shoud be considered. Given the character of Obama,
could it be that the coming election could be circumvented in
some way? Obama must be carefully watched. I fear for our future
if we are not viligent.
Nancy| 6.11.10 @ 4:56PM
And how about nothing getting done in the Gulf of Mexico with the
oil spill. I've read about all kind of help being offered, and
being refused. Some guy up in Maine with miles and miles of boom
line, told no. Dutch government offered help, told no thanks. Do
they really want to fix the mess? I don't think so.
Petronius| 6.11.10 @ 6:13PM
As a reformed radical lib I can relate to the disappointment of
the garden variety gutter dwelling leftist. The #1 item on his
agenda is and always has been total reversal of fortune. B. O.
didn't promise him that, but it's what he voted for and desires
more than winning a 9 figure lotto jackpot. He will never be
sated until the carcass of every business executive swings from
the lamp posts and picked to the bone by carrion crows and all of
Their wealth divided among the losers who will be granted
squatting rights in the properties of their former owners. Having
destroyed the enterprises that supplied the necessities for
living the economically illiterate mob will murder the
professionals and middle managers too. After that, any person
practicing skilled trades would be conscripted into government
service; (forced labor), until they refuse to work and be
executed as well. And when there's nobody left except the
ignorant, indolent, incompetent, self absorbed savages, this
country will become a carbon copy of Zimbabwe: a hellhole
populated by two mobs, the government goons, and everyone else.
It would not be otherwise as the lowlife will be at the top of
the food chain. They won't settle for less. So mote it be. Hail
the return of the Dark Ages.
Coal Carrier,
Great comments and unfortunately true.
I know someone who has a top secret clearance and he said that
there is no way he would have passed security with Obama's
history....go figure.
Yosemeti Sam| 6.12.10 @ 2:33AM
" ... How out of touch is the left? ... it complains that he's
not going far enough fast enough...."
But you useful idiots gotta remember - BHO as expressed in his
ghost-written booooooooks has a strategy of NOT MAKING ANY SUDDEN
MOVES!
Got it!
Dingy and the WWOTW sho nuf got it - tough.
LOL.
Radegunda| 6.12.10 @ 2:47PM
Some of the lefty loons may not be so clueless about what BHO is
doing. Some of them may be tactically feeding the myth that he's
a centrist or even right-wing, as well as trying to make sure
that he doesn't really turn centrist.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.12.10 @ 9:56AM
Heh,
I just had an interesting thought. I wonder who Obama will have
to put on his Presidential Pardon List before he leaves office.
I see those all through his administration; some indictable as
actual traitors and other felonies as well.
Perhaps a looooong list.
Margie| 6.12.10 @ 11:00AM
Well just like Bill Clinton did, the traitor will pardon the
traitors, won't he?
cindy| 6.12.10 @ 1:17PM
Look what's happened to the democrats since the passage of
healthcare reform-they're in deep doo. Does it make sense then
for Obama to fulfill the desires of only 20% of the country?
Jim O'Brien| 6.12.10 @ 1:25PM
Obama will eventually start dressing like Hugo Chavez, his
compadre. Well, we got rid of the USSR, so I guess we can survive
Obama in office for x more days. January 2013 can't come soon
enough. How much more damage will he do in the meantime?
FTM| 6.12.10 @ 4:28PM
Let's all step back and take a cool, calculated look at this
administration for a moment shall we? What has President Obama
actually achieved? Best as I can tell the one sure achievement of
the Obama Administration so far has been to Make the Carter
Administration look competent.
The attempted health care hijacking isn't going to stand, soo
many states are against the plan. Conservitaves and liberals
alike hate the health care plan. Cap and Trade is as dead as a
hammer. All the thug governments the world over that President
Obama tried to cuddle up to are treating him like an adolescent
sissy-boy. Several plans for dealing with the oil spill crisis of
the century and the Obama administration did nothing, just more
of the same posing and pandering.
Another achievement of the Obama administration has been to tack
an extra three or so trillion dollars to the national debt. Even
more inept bungling of a serious economic recession, the product
of the government (Democrat and Republican) goofing around with
the banking industry in regards to the housing bubble.
The Obama administration has assured that "progressives" won't be
paid any serious attention politically for at least a generation.
Now, let's take a look at the other side of the coin, The best
that the Republican party can do is John McCain. Really. That's
it? Truth be told folks, the Republican party is just as dismayed
and repelled by the Tea Party movement as are the liberals. The
Republicans see the Tea Party as a collection of outlaws and
agitators. The Tea Party to the Republican Party is an
untolerable deviation from the status quo.
Seems to me that the Democrats are going to get the stuffings
kicked out of them come November. To that I ask, "So what? Big
Deal." Who with a hat full of brains can say with any degree of
confidence that the Republicans would be any better?
We have a serious problem here. We have a $14 trillion national
debt. Ten plus percent unemployment. We have been invaded by a
hostile horde and in response we've thrown open the welfare
coffers in welcome. We've allowed the world to pillage away our
manufacturing base. We have a commander-in-chief that looks all
the world to me to be an illegal alien himself. The truth of this
matter is that even if we wanted to reverse the leftist damage
that has been done to the United States of America it would be a
bigger undertaking than landing a man on the moon. The problem is
so completely huge and the political/social/legal systems are so
entrenched to support the quo where would one even start? The
trouble that the United States of America faces is going to take
generations to fix and in my honest and most humble opinion the
average American doesn't have the attention span to even focus on
the problem.
How are you going to cure this disease without killing the
patient?
The War Department sent President Roosevelt a report a couple
weeks after the Pearl Harbor attack saying that the American
military might be able to stop the Japanese at the Mississappi
river. The American people were frightened and for the most part
defenseless ergo kids peeling aluminum off of gum wrappers for
scrap drives to build aircraft. Seventy years later you can't get
a kid to focus on any specific topic long enough to make an
impression. Folks, I think that we're screwed.
Bill Clinton did more to damage the Democratic party than any
other person of recent memory. NAFTA, welfare reform... Democrats
got voted out of office and didn't return for years. Obama is
damaging the Democratic party in a different way... instead of
staking out "Republican" stances he is moving too Left for most
Americans and thus will cause his party to be voted out whereas
with Clinton Democrats ate their own in this case Americans will
eat the Democrats.
John II| 6.13.10 @ 6:14PM
Professor Obama and his cheap criminal acolytes have successfully
uncovered a terrible weakness in the American system, not to
mention the corrupt education system on which they're coasting.
I'm trying to make a rough estimate of what this all means. Some
sixty percent of Americans are now against Obama's explicit
policies. But before the creep was elected President, more than
eighty percent of Americans were against socialism and
appeasement. The trouble, of course, is that concrete reality has
a way of trumping ideas. Obama IS President; ergo, more than 20
percent of Americans remain infatuated with the ass when, if
asked in the abstract whether they support his ideas, they would
all say no.
So then: We now have a President who is truly and irrevocably
supported by about fifteen percent of the populace--approximately
the proportion of the populace that, in any routine statistical
examination of almost any random sampling of any population,
would prove to be political psychopaths.
Ordinarily the psychopaths would be roughly evenly distributed at
the extremes of the political spectrum--but in America, fully
fifteen percent of the population teeters on the edge of the Left
and beyond. The truly extreme right-wingers are relatively few.
THAT is Professor Obama's "political base." The other 85 percent
are up for grabs--and very impatient with Dole and McCain type
Republicans: good men who happen to be sloppy and lazy in their
articulation of the American thing they live. We need good men
and women with an articulate sense of what makes America truly
different and infinitely better in a fallen world. Otherwise, the
good 85 percent are going to be permanently under the thumb of
the very bad 15 percent--the standard arrangement for most of
world history and, still, for the overwhelming majority of the
200-odd nations of the world.
RCV| 6.13.10 @ 9:40PM
It is pretty laughable that you consider yourself and the others
on this site as in the middle. The "truly extreme right wingers"
predominate on American Spectator blogs. I oppose socialism and
appeasement, worked full-time to elect Obama and am very glad we
succeeded. It isn't a "weakness in the system" that elected him,
it was the majority of the American people and I believe they
will do so again in 2012. If you look at the current array of
potential GOP candidates, starting with Palin, there is not one
who has a ghost of a chance of being elected.
John II| 6.13.10 @ 11:50PM
Well, it's not at all laughable that you can't read--but that's
part of the general cultural trouble. I didn't say anything about
the "middle." Most Americans--that is, most normal human
beings--are (relative to the contemporary spectrum) center-right
in their sociopolitical views. Your hero lied about his own
position on the spectrum, the media never called him on any of
his lies, and he won. In fewer than 18 months he lost that
majority support, but still commands more support than he
possibly could if more Americans took the trouble to be better
informed.
And if you regard the Spectator as inhabited by extreme right
wingers, your angle of vision can only be from the extreme left.
Which is to say, you're a liar. You promote socialism and
appeasement if you worked "full-time" (does that mean you don't
have a real job?) for Obama and have no regrets in the face of
the obvious.
Fine, then. You belong to that 15 percent of unteachable
psychopaths, that's all. You're part of the Professor's smug
political base. You would like to be part of the anointed who
tell the other 85 percent of Americans minutely how to live their
lives.
On the sad topic of the GOP, we shall see what we shall see by
November--but I'm fully prepared to agree with you. If Professor
Obama wins a second term in 2012, it surely won't be because of
anything any longer appealing about him personally or
politically. He's a narcissistic creep, rather like his more
passionate supporters.
RCV| 6.14.10 @ 11:18AM
You guys were calling him a "socialist" all during the campaign.
We elected him precisely because he promised to reform health
care, end the Bush tax cuts, and crack down on Wall Street
excesses, so don't spew this crap about lieing about his place on
the spectrum. You lost. Get over it and suck it up.
Hugh| 6.14.10 @ 12:17AM
Where is Obama's new socialism heading us? We need only look to
Europe for the answer.
How dare Gert Wilders not surrender freedom to Islam? The New
York Times brands Dutch political leader Geert Wilders an
‘extremist” and “populist” who causes trouble for “mainstream”
politicians with his “unsavoury policies”. It then calls on a
Dutch academic to help explain how bad this “outspoken critic of
Islam” really is:
Dick Houtman, a professor of political sociology at Erasmus
University in Rotterdam, said that Mr. Wilders had built on Mr.
Fortuyn’s legacy, successfully avoiding the overtly racist
language of far-right politicians in other countries by
highlighting issues like freedom of speech, female equality and
gay rights. ”That serves to exclude Muslims from the Dutch
political consensus,” he said.
Are these guys listening to themselves? If “highlighting issues
like freedom of speech, female equality and gay rights” does
indeed “exclude Muslims from the Dutch political consensus”, then
who is the real problem here? Which side of the debate does
indeed have “unsavoury policies”?
This siding with the threat rather than the threatened is already
sick enough, But note also that Wilders’ forerunner, gay academic
Pim Fortuyn, was murdered by a green activist upset by his
warnings of the threat to freedom posed by Islam, and that
Wilders himself is now under 24-hour guard merely for speaking
his mind.
Michael Finch sums up: Apparently to be part of the postmodern
Western “political consensus”, too be inclusive of Muslims, we
need to be against freedom of speech, gay rights and female
equality?
Houtman, aware of it or not, has made a brilliant, if obvious,
observation. In order for many Muslim immigrants to feel
culturally and politically included in the West, most clearly in
Holland, they need to exist in an environment that is not open to
the pluralistic, open and free West of the Enlightenment of the
past 300 years.
So when a Western politician like Wilders openly embraces the
values of liberty, he is called an extremist, hate monger and
radical with ties to neo Nazis. The elite class, currently in
Washington and throughout the halls of Western academia and the
media, feel it more important to be inclusive of Muslims then
holding true to the values that created the most open and free
society the world has ever seen. And to oppose this new orthodoxy
makes one a criminal, as the Left hopes to make of Wilders.
Brian Mc| 6.11.10 @ 6:45AM
March 3, 2112
Tommy had finally come to his wits end. He stomped through the house and found his father sitting, fuming at his desk, attempting to pay all his federal mandate billings; health care assessments, C02 forfeitures, recycling requisitions and the like. Tommy asked, "Dad, can I ask you something?"
Tommy's dad stretched back from the desk with a huff, ran his hands through his hair and shook his head as if in an attempt to clear it, "What did you need, son?"
"I have been doing my American Spectator report for Social History class and I can't understand something."
Tommy's father turned to him, "What's the matter?"
"Well, I've been reading all these articles and then, it hit me. Why didn't someone indict Obama and others like him for treason...? They had plenty of reasons. I mean, look what he did to the Constitution, but no one did anything, I just don't get it."
"I guess nobody had the stones, son. At least, nobody with any 'real' power."
"Stones? What's that, dad?"
"Never mind Tommy. Now, go back and finish your homework and leave you old man to this mess before I have to take you and your sister to the indoctrination tonight."
"Sorry, dad."
"Not a problem, son."
Alan Brooks| 6.11.10 @ 9:22PM
Obama is going to be re-elected, the GOP has been clueless since the Soviet threat evaporated in 1991.
3 lost elections since 1991: '92, '96, '08.
Bush barely won in 2000.
So that makes 2004 the only real GOP presidential victory. Not too good--eh?
Craig Goodrich| 6.12.10 @ 12:20AM
Good, good, Alan, keep it up. The major danger for our side is overconfidence; your continuing warnings are very helpful.
AMENBRO| 6.12.10 @ 1:41AM
It only takes one sperm to get pregnant,,,yawl,,,, .
At least Bush didn't try to steal all the furniture nor pardon every lowlife with more than $100,000 after he got his ass impeached for getting his PURPLE HAID polished. Course that's well educated extremely intelligent liberal Nobel contender behavior.
SHHHHAAAAZAm Where were you AL when the Republicans unseated JIM "I Just Want to Help You" Wright. You remember him don't ya AL ?
Newt Gingrich back bench FIREBOMBED his ass. Mr.Bundled book campaign contributions himself from the great state of Texas.. You fergettinl, a rich tapestry. 40 years of democrat rule in the legislative branch of our country brought us the House Bank, Congress not having to follow EEOC rules, Rowstenkowski. CHARLIE
RANGELS CRACKER BROTHER SEPERATED AT BIRTH, cashing FRANKING PRIVLEDGES postage at the House Post Office. He liked to steal furniture and misappropriate office space money also. A few from the many of wonderful ways the Compassionate Party had been serving the People. WHERE YOU BEEN????
Remember the Contract with America. How bout the Welfare Reform suppository they administered to Slick me Willie. 12 years of Republican Rule with Reagan Course that evaporated threat also vaporized as dust from TEARING DOWN Mr. Gorbachev's wall.
Recall that tadbit of inconvenient truth:
The Republican Revolution or Revolution of '94 is what the Republican Party of the United States dubbed their success in the 1994 U.S. midterm elections,[1] which resulted in a net gain of 54 seats in the House of Representatives, and a pickup of eight seats in the Senate. The day after the election, Democratic Senator Richard Shelby of Alabama changed parties, becoming a Republican.
The gains in seats in the mid-term election resulted in the Republicans gaining control of both the House and the Senate in January 1995. Republicans had not held the majority in the House for forty years, since the 83rd Congress (elected in 1952) Large Republican gains were made in state houses as well when the GOP picked up twelve gubernatorial seats and 472 legislative seats. In so doing, it took control of 20 state legislatures from the Democrats. Prior to this, Republicans had not held the majority of governorships since 1972. In addition, this was the first time in 50 years that the GOP controlled a majority of state legislatures.
Discontent against the Democrats was foreshadowed by a string of elections after 1992, including the capture of the mayoralties of New York and Los Angeles by the Republicans in 1993. In that same year, Christine Todd Whitman captured the New Jersey governorship from the Democrats and Bret Schundler became the mayor of overwhelmingly Democratic Jersey City. Republican George Allen won the Virginia governorship. Republican Kay Bailey Hutchison took a senate seat from the Democrats in Texas. Republicans Frank Lucas and Ron Lewis picked up two congressional seats from Democrats in Oklahoma and Kentucky in May 1994.
Bush also packed the legislative branch.
Alan Brooks| 6.12.10 @ 8:42AM
"Good, good, Alan, keep it up. The major danger for our side is overconfidence; your continuing warnings are very helpful."
Oh so you admit your people are prone to self-deceptive tendencies such as overconfidence. Thank you for exposing your main weakness. Shall keep it in mind always.
Christopher Holland| 6.13.10 @ 5:16PM
Your overconfidence comes from inability to understand the source of problems and your capacity to address them. Liberals are utterly clueless about America, they despise the country, its people and its institutions and they want to destroy these. No wonder the wheels are falling off. The problem with liberalism is not overconfidence, it is clueless stupidity and contempt. You know nothing and learn nothing. Liberalism is a bald man insisting that a comb will solve everything.
Alan's Dad| 6.12.10 @ 10:57PM
Alan, Get your ass back in bed
Alan is delusion| 6.13.10 @ 6:44AM
Alan's math is a little Obama.
Alan's Mom| 6.13.10 @ 6:48AM
Alan, did you take your medicaton today?
Stop bothering these nice people.
Alan's Brother| 6.13.10 @ 6:50AM
Alan quit wearing my clothes, you dipstick.
Bob Jones| 6.13.10 @ 5:20PM
Alan, your Mommy's calling you to come upstairs for dinner.
Alan's Uncle| 6.13.10 @ 6:51AM
That boy just ain't right.
a third party| 6.13.10 @ 3:33PM
lol, pwn3d
Alan's Jockstrap| 6.17.10 @ 8:50PM
I'm feeling a little empty...
K962| 6.11.10 @ 6:46AM
The left will grow more and more violent. They see themselves as losing power in November and they are growing panicky. Watch out this summer!
Alan Brooks| 6.11.10 @ 9:27PM
No, the November losses will boost Obama's popularity when the economy grows thanks to the new Congress's guidance starting next January.
AMENBRO| 6.12.10 @ 1:46AM
Send me some of dem dare SSSCCCHHRRROMMMMMS you been ingesting son,,LMFAO
Alan Brooks| 6.12.10 @ 9:03AM
If you stop the jive.
Bro, you can do it-- sho nuff!
BackToBasics| 6.13.10 @ 2:41AM
Just like under Clinton. The Republican Congress was the rudder that allowed Clinton to tac the middle course with welfare reform and better economic guidance which helped him very much. Sorry to say, if the Republicans do gain control of Congress, I think it will help Obam to win in 2012. This will NOT save our country from the crash and breakup that are surely coming if we do not stop the communist-government direction we are heading into now. Those on the left may gloat about Obam and the current Democrat-controlled agenda but they will be victims of this crash just as much as those on the right will, so their gloating and glee will be short-lived.
Ol' Goat| 6.13.10 @ 2:09PM
Take another bong hit, Alan and lull yourself back into the delusional world you inhabit.
Christopher Holland| 6.13.10 @ 5:19PM
This is inaninty squared and cubed. Losing elections is the way to achieve great things! This in not what you were saying in 2008, the story was different then. You couldn't make electoral success work for you, so now you will achieve all with failure. Give it a break, it is too early in the morning to read stupidity like this
Stephanie| 6.11.10 @ 7:36AM
I hope the left does get rowdy, that way it will show the masses, if they will look and pay attention, that it isn't the TEA party folks, it's the progressives that throw a fit when they don't get their way. I await the gathering storm.
RacerJim| 6.11.10 @ 10:15AM
I couldn't agree more. I look anxiously forward, guns loaded and unlocked, to Civil War II!
Alan Brooks| 6.11.10 @ 8:56PM
"I couldn't agree more. I look anxiously forward, guns loaded and unlocked, to Civil War II!"
The South lost the first one, and would lose the second one. The South with its statist Fugitive Slave Act.
Old Soldier| 6.11.10 @ 9:22PM
I live in the "North". Funny that you think I would fight for you.
Look at the Red / Blue map by county. Those are the battle lines.
Old Soldier| 6.11.10 @ 9:22PM
I live in the "North". Funny that you think I would fight for you.
Look at the Red / Blue map by county. Those are the battle lines.
Alan Brooks| 6.11.10 @ 9:30PM
But you know very well the South is where the heart of the Teaparty is. Denying so would be as dishonest as Yankees would be if they were to deny that New England is where the heart of liberalism is.
Alan Brooks| 6.11.10 @ 9:32PM
Do you remember where the Teaparty Convention was?
Nashville.
AMENBRO| 6.12.10 @ 1:49AM
OOOHHH AL how cliche you wascle you. that original material.You guys come up with that yourselves???
Alan Brooks| 6.12.10 @ 9:19AM
It's just your jive talkin'
you're telling me lies, yeah
Jive talkin'
you wear a disguise
Jive talkin'
so misunderstood, yeah
Jive talkin'
You really no good
Ed Wallis| 6.12.10 @ 8:09PM
What a moronic statement...
...seeing as how the "Coffee" Party's event takes place in Kentucky.
F'ing hypocrite.
Christopher Holland| 6.13.10 @ 5:21PM
Where does California fit into this model? Your geography leaves a lot to be desired, geopolitics is clearly not your strongest point.
Old Soldier| 6.13.10 @ 7:59PM
Yet thousands of people keep showing up on the green in Morristown for every Tea Party, NJ now has a fiscally conservative Governor.
There are just fewer big cities and big-city liberals in the South to outvote the conservatives in the suburbs and rural areas. Drive 50 miles west of NY, Boston, or Philly, and you are in Tea Party land.
Tim*| 6.11.10 @ 10:47PM
Duuuhhhh ,We Tea Party Rebels are in The North ,The West ,The East & The South.
Aaaand, It's " Locked & Loaded " .
Alan Brooks| 6.11.10 @ 10:57PM
Nah, without the South, the Tea Party Movement would be greatly diminished. Just as without Mass, NY, Vermont, Connecticut, Rhode Island,
liberalism would be almost nothing.
It is all quaint and provincial.
Tim*| 6.11.10 @ 11:31PM
You Are Full of Pork!
In just The Tea Party Patriots Faction alone there are :
120 Chapters in California.48 Chaptors in Connecticutt , 75 Chapters In Illinois , 44 in Indiana , 90 in New York , 45 in New Jersey , 63 in Ohio , etc.
The Tea Party Patriots Faction and others boycotted that factioned Nashville Convention .
rcv| 6.14.10 @ 9:53PM
Like the French revolutionaries and most other purist ideologues, the tea baggers are now factioning and battling each other. Good riddance to them all.
Craig Goodrich| 6.12.10 @ 12:29AM
I dunno, Alan, Vermonters at least are starting to think twice about some Liberal points of faith, anyway. And Maine is already mostly lost. So don't be too confident; remember the Solid South once meant Democratic.
Alan Brooks| 6.12.10 @ 9:22AM
"remember the Solid South once meant Democratic."
Because they are fickle?
Alan Brooks| 6.12.10 @ 9:26AM
"In just The Tea Party Patriots Faction alone there are
120 Chapters in California.48 Chaptors in Connecticutt , 75 Chapters In Illinois , 44 in Indiana , 90 in New York , 45 in New Jersey , 63 in Ohio , etc.
The Tea Party Patriots Faction and others boycotted that factioned Nashville Convention."
Again: the nucleus of the tea party movement is in the South, just as the nucleus of American liberalism is in the Northeast.
You will admit the latter, but you wont admit the former?
Tim*| 6.12.10 @ 10:54AM
Do your homework .
http://patchworknation.csmonit.....-tea-party
Alan Brooks| 6.12.10 @ 5:15PM
The map in patchworknation doesn't show that if the South and North disappeared tomorrow, both the tea party and liberalism would be crippled-- if you take six legs off a scorpion, it has only two left.
Here's something much better to read:
"The libertarian wing of conservatism ought to be the portion that non-leftist liberals and pragmatic moderates could negotiate with. All three groups appear to be motivated by a shared set of general goals. A dream of maximized individual opportunity and freedom. An aversion to bossy accumulations of undue power. A belief that unleashed human creativity can solve a vast array of problems and that tomorrow could be better, as a result. These commonalities ought to make for lively, good-natured debate over the details, e.g., whether to use the state or laissez-faire or a tuned-markets approach to solve this or that problem.
Why then, are most libertarians instead the most intransigent and obnoxious of fuming dogmatists, contemptuous of practicality or compromise, endlessly reciting nonsensical pseudo-religious catechisms from the dunce-prophetess?
Cajoled by paid shills from the Cato, Heritage and American Enterprise “institutes,” most libertarians and libertarian-minded conservatives have been duped into calling government an inherently satanic foe of Manichean dimensions. Indeed, they see civil servants as the only force out there that’s inimical to liberty, something that Adam Smith (mindful of 4,000 years of history) would have found laughable. While worshipping at an altar of private property (coaxed coincidentally by propaganda paid for by billionaires), libertarians thus turn their gaze away from the two desiderata that ought to be the movement’s core focus:
Freedom and fair competition.
These are basic underpinnings of true markets, democracy, science and justice—and history shows that government can foster them as readily as hinder them. Just as private wealth can undermine them, and has done so, in nearly all human societies. Only through dynamic confrontation can the private and public realms prevent each others’ worst excesses. But that fact is too complex ever to be admitted by purists.
Freedom and fair competition. If these twin pillars again became the main goals of the brighter-right, there would be a shift of tectonic proportions. Libertarians and libertarian-minded conservatives would sever all links to both populist know-nothings and plutocrats. They would rescue what remains worth saving, from their hijacked and shattered movement, and thereupon rejoin us at the negotiating table, helping a coalition of civilized adults in search of new, agile, and creative ways to save civilization."
Who wrote the above? Find out for yourself-- you do YOUR homework.
Tim*| 6.12.10 @ 6:03PM
I already have Pseudo-intellect bloviator.
Dude's just one more Colliefornia Secularist Pseudo-Intellect Fictionist .
christopher holland| 6.13.10 @ 5:25PM
So liberalism is nothing but a geographical construct! Really, does the liberal mothership know that you are preaching this heresy to the natives you want to conquor. If liberalism is almost nothing without the declining NE states, then liberalism certainly has problems.
ruralcounsel| 6.14.10 @ 9:45AM
I attended the 2010 Tea Party rally on Boston Common...I'd say it's prevalent across the country. My neighbors here in Vermont are disgusted with Federal and State government. There's plenty of rumblings about reinstituting freedom around here. Maybe not in Burlington, but you know what they say about Burlington...nicest little city close to Vermont.
The Blue/Red maps are right. This is a rural versus urban civil war, and won't be anywhere near so neat and clean as the North/South one. Think Bosnia.
carnot| 6.12.10 @ 8:02PM
maybe...but with a little luck...YOU WON'T................:-).....collateral damage and all that.
Ned| 6.11.10 @ 11:42AM
I'm afraid that you give far too much credit to the lightweights that put this con man in office. Economics is not the only thing that they fail to understand - they are poorly educated on just about everything.
Wasn't it Twain that said "It's not that [they] are ignorant, it's that so much that they know is not true." Or words to that effect...
Obozo's supporters actually think that "Bush deregulated everything..." (like what, for instance?), that "the stimulus is working..." (10% unemployment, anyone?), and that ObozoCare will "reduce the cost of health care..." (despite abundant evidence to the contrary...)
Good heavens, some of the folks still think that John Maynard Keynes knew what the hell he was talking about - they may not know his name, but they believe that his fairytale theories work in the real world, just like they did in 1930.
Alan Brooks| 6.11.10 @ 11:13PM
"undo Bush's compromise on stem cell research"
Obama did the right thing.
FTM| 6.12.10 @ 3:35PM
I did some research on Keynes. Keynes was a genius, no doubt. His ideas in regards to deficit spending in an economic downturn are for the most part wrong as history has shown.
Keynes' main thesis though is that people need a strong central government to direct their lives for them based on the idea (Great Depression Era) that people were too poorly educated, preoccupied and basically too stupid to take care of themselves, politically, socially and financially.
Unfortunately, like it or not, Keynes was for the most part right. How does an imbicile like Obama get elected to the highest office in the land to start with? Think about it.
Clinton nee Publius| 6.11.10 @ 8:20PM
The reality is that the violence is just beginning as the failures of liberal-progressivism always require a scapegoat to justify the failure, because; once people start questioning liberal-progressive mantra they realize there are no sustainable principles at the core of this "movement. The reality is there is only stealing money under the color of authority and disbursing it amongst the participants in the movement as if we hadn't had enough of feudalism in the Middle Ages.
This means we will have a violent summer. I know I will be doing my best to agitate the violence to a point of civil war. This is our time and we can permanently eradicate the liberal conspiracy cult once and for all if we will only stand up and do the deed. The job remains unfinished and history will judge as having failed to meet the test if we do not do what is necessary so that future generations may have clean earth to till in a world ruled by liberty and freedom instead of tyranny, want and endless suffering.
Alan Brooks| 6.12.10 @ 9:28AM
but you still want govt to give funds to your grandparents?
ruralcounsel| 6.14.10 @ 9:56AM
No. I want the government to return the taxes they took under the false promises of Social Security and Medicaire/Medicaid.
The government has nothing to give that it hasn't taken away from someone else. It's nothing but a giant fund transfer mechanism, usually producing nothing of value in the process. Because the process is guided by our national politics.
Two-party government with a Congress that determines spending is inherently unstable in a nation of our size and complexity.
RCV| 6.14.10 @ 9:59PM
Ah, the true colors of the self-described "American patriot"! Stirring up violence because they lost at the ballot box. I hope the ATF picks you up on its next sweep of Timothy-McVeigh-wanabees. Our good men and women in our police units and military can take of you loose nuts.
martin j smith| 6.11.10 @ 7:48AM
The " far left" will never be satisfied unless our nation is totally destroyed. Then the really wealthy ones will move to France and laugh all the way to the bank. The others, well too bad for them.
Having said that I would say, if no one understand the connection between Obama's history and associations and his current actions they are a) in total denial, b) stupid, c) lying d ) they come from outer space.
In clonclusion: BHO is a Communist, hard core.
and much of his inner cirlce are too as well the core left of the senate and house Democrats.
I think it is time to stop playing the game of PC.
Recently I got a DNC mailing sined offf b y Billy Boy himself essentially calling the Republican Party the Party of NO. Well that should be turned around as the Party of Hell NO to Communism in American !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And wear that proudly.
Alan Brooks| 6.12.10 @ 9:30AM
"Then the really wealthy ones will move to France"
Why would they move there if Muslims are so prevalent? And why France, why not some other country? Why not Australia?
coal carrier| 6.11.10 @ 8:02AM
When I was a young man, starting out in my career, I applied for a position that required a secret clearance with a specific federal agency. The FBI started its background investigation and I was granted a clearance in 6 weeks, which was really quick, because I was so young. I was 21. There was another individual at this time that was also applying for a position. After three months or so he was denied a clearance and had to seek employment elsewhere. He said that he was told that he was denied a clearance because he visited his neighborhood bar too often. The security agency said that he was a security risk. Too many whisky sours had a tendency to loosen lips. Security information could slip out in a casual conversation with a stranger at the bar. You see in 1966, the Federal Government didn’t fool around when it came to national security. If they thought you were a risk, you were not given a security clearance and you wouldn’t be working in an area where you may compromise national security.
Now, 44 years later, we have an individual in the White House who frequented a church for 20 years that advocated the overthrow of this nation. Rubbed elbows with terrorists and radicals who bombed the Pentagon. Smoked dope. Refuses to display his birth certificate and school records. Has hired a slew of Marxists radicals in his administration and now he is allowed to see and hear the most top-secret information with regards to the security of this nation. All while the Secret Service protects him to do so.
Ladies and gentlemen, what is wrong with this picture? May God help our great nation come November 2010 and 2012.
drudge ette obama| 6.11.10 @ 8:19AM
Fabulous post.
If it hasn't hit anyone yet why Obama continues these ruinous policies while the world economy is where it is, then they shouldn't vote.
He is either arrogantly self-driven to it by ideology or the dumbest idiot ever. Or both.
You may wish for God to help us, but so doesn't the enemy. We must help ourselves. Now. With money and our voices. This is not silly politics anymore.
RacerJim| 6.11.10 @ 10:22AM
Indeed, given that Obama said in his book "Dreams of My Father" that as a college student he sought out and associated himself with radical Communists, Marxists, Leninists, Socialists and Black Ideologists there's no way in hell he should have even the lowest national security clearance. Incredible.
May God indeed Save our country asap.
Margie| 6.11.10 @ 11:18AM
I agree, fabulous post, coal carrier. And now the question is, will the voters who refused to vote for the opposition Republican party last time, and wouldn't cast their votes for McCain/Palin do it again? Or have they learned their lesson~has it hit them personally enough yet what the cold hard facts are, of having a true Marxist in the White House? How low must we go before we all wake up to this reality?
It ain't gonna get any better!
S.L. Toddard| 6.11.10 @ 1:58PM
"the question is, will the voters who refused to vote for the opposition Republican party last time, and wouldn't cast their votes for McCain/Palin do it again?"
Absolutely.
Margie| 6.11.10 @ 2:07PM
That'd please you, wouldn't it?
Alan Brooks| 6.11.10 @ 11:18PM
McCain was only nominated because he had been tortured in 'Nam.
Dole was only nominated because he has a withered arm from being wounded in Italy during WWII.
Craig Goodrich| 6.12.10 @ 12:36AM
Actually, that may explain why they both became Senators, but they were nominated by an unimaginative Republican establishment mostly because it was Their Turn.
On the other hand, it seems to me that both of these sacrifices display a dedication to the ideals of America substantially beyond what we have seen from any of the more with-it crowd of hip-hop politicians that apparently control Washington now.
Your point is?
Margie| 6.12.10 @ 12:38AM
Obama was only nominated because he is half black.
Some brainiacs would rather see the Republicans lose rather than see the Democrats lose.
So does Satan.
Tim*| 6.12.10 @ 12:11PM
Then , you have recanted your sins & now support The Republican Candidate Rand Paul .
Bless You Apocalyptic Church Lady .
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
We Can See November From Our Tea Party Houses.
Margie| 6.12.10 @ 4:25PM
Rand Paul is a Libertarian is Republican's clothing, and is a fruit from the tree of his father. Both of them registered Republican in order to get elected. Libertarians are Leftists, not conservative.
Read David Horowitz for an expose on the Leftist Libertarian mindset. I am not fooled. The Leftist anti-Semites like you don't fool the majority of us, Timmy* boy Insult all you wish!
http://frontpagemag.com/2010/0.....ur-of-the-“ron-paul-revolutionary”-mind-2/
Tim*| 6.12.10 @ 9:14PM
Uh Oh !
Apocalyptic Margie Plays The Anti-Semite Card .
Well Margie , You Israel Firster NeoConservative Types foisted The Serial Traitor to Conservatism , John McCain & Israel Firster RINO-CINO's Arlen Specter on The Republican Party .
We ,Tea Party Rebels Fell Off Your NeoCon Sled & Won't Play Your "VOTE FOR ANY REPUBLICAN " Lie .
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
We Can See November From Our Tea Party Houses.
Margie| 6.12.10 @ 11:30PM
True, one of us is lying.
Tim*| 6.13.10 @ 12:26AM
Yeah , Phoney Margie You Are.
Margie| 6.11.10 @ 3:22PM , over at : A Leak In The Presidency :
" It means that liberals need to wake up and spit out the Kool-Aid...and that conservatives should put aside differences, band together, and elect as many Republicans as possible. "
Wash Out You're Lyin' Mouth With Soap ,You Bad Thing.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Remember In November .
BackToBasics| 6.13.10 @ 2:55AM
The Tea Party and the grassroots movement it represents will be undone totally if Congress paases amnesty or if Obam signs an Executive order to grant amnesty which I would not put past him. The Demographics are shifting to the left faster than most everyone thinks including the Tea Partiers who are still thinking that the Old Rules will apply. Amnesty will totally throw out the Old-Rules-win-by-legitimate-numbers voting that was "mostly" in place until the 1990's. The Tea Party and our Republic are largely finished within 3 presidential elections unless we can stop the massive illegal immigration.
Tim*| 6.13.10 @ 8:30AM
We ,Tea Party Rebels have been well aware of the demographics & the recent joy of The Mainstream Media in reporting it.
This is one reason why we oppose The Serial Traitor to Conservatism John McCain for His attempted McCain-Kennedy Bill .
Just as the high Arab -Muslim birth rate will undo Margie's Israel Firster Agenda , the high Hispanic Birth Rate , unless countered , will undo the Culture , Affiliations , Traditions , as well as , the Economic & Political Atmosphere of America.
We ,Tea Party Rebels have been in the forefront of stopping Illegal Invaders coming into Sovereign U.S. Territory across our borders.
Margie| 6.13.10 @ 11:22AM
Timmy* is revealing his anti-semitic self once again. The Libertarian Leftist Paul-bot mind is truly a sad and despicable one. Anyone who proclaims the truth about that mindset and who backs Israel our ally will be especially hated. Some will be stalked around the internet by them and their vile hatred will be poured fourth continuously. The Leftist Libertarians and Paleo-con-artists cannot bear our existence, just as they cannot bear the existence of the Jews.
As to the Pauls, anyone who does their research knows that they are deceitful non-interventionist whackos, and as I said registered Republican in order to get elected. It's the only way they could. Paul-bots are absolutely blinded by their hatred and refuse to admit the truth. Rand Paul is aligned with Adam Kokesh, the Anti-American, Israel hating scumbag who aligns himself with Code Pink. Just google their names together.
Now, if the Pauls are truly Libertarian Leftists and registered as Republicans in order to get elected, that would truly make them RINO's. So Timmy*'s voting for RINO's, LOL. Now, Timmy*, don't you worry your vile little heart, the Muslims aren't going to cancel out my vote sweetheart. Most Americans just aren't as stupid as you paint us out to be.
Timmy* the stalker, who proclaims his adoration of Sarah Palin but refused to vote for McCain/Palin because his hatred of a United States Military war hero and pro-Israel man was stronger.
You continue to reveal your insanity each time you stalk me, there sicko.
Tim*| 6.13.10 @ 12:44PM
Uh Oh !
For Zany Margie , this is about the Republican Candidates from Texas & Kentucky.
Duuuhhhhh !
Didn't ya get the memos ?
Sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul.
As for The Serial Traitor to Conservatism John McCain .
I oppose McCain-Kennedy , McCain-Lieberman , McCain-Feingold , McCain-Feingold , The Gang of 14 , McCain's Opposing The 2001 & 2003 Tax Cuts , aaaand TARP .
If ya can't take The Tea Party Heat ,then shove off .
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
We Remember In November.
Margie| 6.13.10 @ 12:56PM
Wow, Timmy*~ Sarah Palin was on the Presidential ticket, loser! Sarah Palin could have been our Vice President, next in line if something were to have happened to McCain, yet you hypocrite, you refused to vote for the ticket!
Blinded by your anti-semitism you cut off your nose just to spite your face!
Now preach on, Timmy*!
Tim*| 6.13.10 @ 1:17PM
I know .
Aaaaaand She Endorses Rand Paul ,Hypocrite Faux-Church Lady .
Margie| 6.13.10 @ 12:35PM
The quote you accredited to me, (and with which I agree and practice), stalker Timmy* is not my quote. Tim* cannot read, nor can he reason.
And if Timmy* the stalker and anti-semite agreed with the quote himself, he would have voted for McCain/Palin, but said he refused to. Yet he labels me as a hypocrite, LOL.
Tim*| 6.13.10 @ 1:12PM
Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha !
Duuuuhhh !
I quoted your post.
(Margie| 6.11.10 @ 3:22PM , over at : A Leak In The Presidency )
You always post hypocritically " Vote for Republicans ".
Rand Paul is The Republican Party Candidate for Senate in The Commonwealth of Kentucky & Ron Paul His Father is A Republican Party Candidate from Texas .
I guess like Bubba Clinton , with you , it depends on what the meaning of " is " is.
Aaaand , I Put In A Protest Vote & Wrote In My Brother-In-Law.
A Fine & Upstanding Lad , I might add.
Now, hold that thought ,Sweetheart .
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates .
We Can See November from Our Tea Party Houses.
Margie| 6.13.10 @ 1:28PM
Tsk, tsk. Twisted Timmy* lies again. You are the perfect example of what Bob Grant was just talking about on his radio program this afternoon. He said that the (some) of TEA partiers won't vote for a Republican unless they're "conservative" enough. You prove his point, loser. You Paul-bots are insane!
As for Rand Paul, you lied and accused me of something untrue (again). I have said before that if he were to become the Presidential nominee I would vote for him. You never even actually ASKED me the question though. You just post that I am a liar, hypocrite, et al.
It is YOU who is the liar, and the hypocrite. It is YOU who helps to hand over the election the the Left. And why? Because you are insane.
You refused to vote for McCain/Palin and therefore you don't really care about winning. The election was lost due to your insane way of thinking, and you are going to do it again.
All the while throwing stones at me, that is very funny, but pathetic.
Tim*| 6.13.10 @ 1:44PM
Cuckkooo !
Foist , Zany Margie posts :
" As to the Pauls, anyone who does their research knows that they are deceitful non-interventionist whackos, and as I said registered Republican in order to get elected. It's the only way they could. Paul-bots are absolutely blinded by their hatred and refuse to admit the truth. Rand Paul is aligned with Adam Kokesh, the Anti-American, Israel hating scumbag who aligns himself with Code Pink. Just google their names together.
Now, if the Pauls are truly Libertarian Leftists and registered as Republicans in order to get elected, that would truly make them RINO's. So Timmy*'s voting for RINO's, LOL. Now, Timmy*, don't you worry your vile little heart, the Muslims aren't going to cancel out my vote sweetheart. Most Americans just aren't as stupid as you paint us out to be. "
Now Silly Margie posts :
" As for Rand Paul, you lied and accused me of something untrue (again). I have said before that if he were to become the Presidential nominee I would vote for him."
Sooooo,you go crazy against Rand Paul ( Who We ,Tea Party Rebels Support ) , and yet now You say that you'd vote for him for President .
Cuckooo ! Cuckoooo !
Margie| 6.13.10 @ 1:49PM
Twisted Timmy* likes playing games, doesn't he? That's right, Timmy*. What I said is correct and truthful about the Pauls.
And unlike you, I am true to my word. I vote Republican. Always. Unlike you, I may not like the candidate, but I am electing the party behind the man. Unlike you, I can understand how that works.
Idiot.
Tim*| 6.13.10 @ 2:04PM
Ha, Ha, Ha ,Ha !
Let's get this straight .
You , Margie say , " Rand Paul is aligned with Adam Kokesh, the Anti-American, Israel hating scumbag who aligns himself with Code Pink. "
Now ,ya say you'd vote for Him , as President .
Holy Crap , Margie !
By your own standards and your frequent and angry accusations , that makes you an Anti-Semite .
You Are Completely Nuts !
Margie| 6.13.10 @ 2:30PM
That's right. loser. I will vote for the Republican nominee in order to keep a Democrat from winning.
You, on the other hand, will either not vote, or write in your brother-in-law in order to gusrantee that the Democrat will win.
That's the difference. I will for for the party in order to stop the Democrats. Something you cannot relate to in your warped mind.
Mock on, Timmy*.
Margie| 6.13.10 @ 3:08PM
Sarah Palin also backed Meg Whitman for gov. in California. OOooh Timmy* boy, now what?
Sarah Palin is smart enough to know that a Republican candidate should be backed, rather than a Democrat. Why is it that the loony Paul-bots, claimers of the TEA party (which they are NOT!)~ cannot understand this?
Liberalism is a mental disorder. Libertarianism is Liberalism cloaking itself as conservative.
They will sell their ever loving souls before voting for someone not considered "conservative" enough, including McCain/Palin, as displayed by Timmy* the stalker. All the while yelling "Hypocrite!" to those of us who, like Sarah Palin, do the right thing.
Read David Horowitz.
Radegunda| 6.12.10 @ 2:42PM
You're right. A white man with Obama's resume and personal history and character traits would never have gotten the same adulation from the Dems. That's partly because a white man with Obama's academic record and ability would not have gotten into Harvard Law, much less been chosen as president of the law review.
And Republicans would have been more inclined to make a big deal out of his glaring defects if not for the race factor.
The people who claim that criticism of him is race-based have it 180 degrees wrong.
AMENBRO| 6.12.10 @ 1:52AM
DEEEEP DEEEP thinking there Al. Woooah.
Interstellar insightful sir.
Maybe you should audition for the next WOWW that's a low price comercial.
Alan Brooks| 6.12.10 @ 9:35AM
You should audition for the part of Louise on 'The Jeffersons'.
Alan Brooks| 6.12.10 @ 9:38AM
"... but they were nominated by an unimaginative Republican establishment mostly because it was Their Turn."
That's even worse!
BackToBasics| 6.13.10 @ 3:14AM
You're right about that. Many leftists do not seem to see the distinctions between a Republican establishmnet candidate and someone who is truly conservative. Anyone to the right of Ted Kennedy is seen by most leftist as the "far-right." As much as I disagree with the direction of establishmnet types like the Bushes, Dole, McCain, etc. the Republican party seems to have a broader spectrum of political thought than the Democrats do. That is noted in the disctinction you made about Establishments Republicans meaning there are those more to the right than those. But, it seems like 99% of Democrats just want a socialist-communist state. There's just this great leap to the left on the Dems part from what I see. Forty years ago that was not true, but today, the Dems seem to march in lockstep like lemmings over the socialist-communist precipice.
Christopher Holland| 6.13.10 @ 5:27PM
Fortunately for you, the constitution has no prohibition on stupidity. Liberals make full use of this
RCV| 6.14.10 @ 10:05PM
The Secret Service protects him because he was elected by the American people to be our President. That's what they're supposed to do. And we elected him President because he promised to enact sweeping health care reform, begin to reregulate the out-of-control financial entities, end the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest of Americans, stop destroying America's moral leadership by ending shameful torture, and restore diplomacy to a foreign policy that had degenerated to a "bring-em-on" mentality. And that's what he's done. You lost the election; get over it and stop whining.
Bill Hussien O'Stalin| 6.11.10 @ 8:06AM
Actually, the far left should not get too excited because it's obvious Obama is one of them and they must work as a group.
Although on the surface they claim to disdain wealth, it's their sole desire to take someone else's in the form of taxes or other confiscatory schemes. Their ultimate goal is always to amass wealth themselves.
They become community organizers and engage in other mindless activities, mainly because they don't have the intelligence to run an entity that requires real thought.
George True| 6.11.10 @ 10:48AM
You are so right. It is always about the money with these people. They always claim they are motivated by "fairness", or that it's being done "for the children", or some other such mindless claptrap. But always, always, it is about enriching themselves financially, and always at the expense of the very downtrodden they claim to be helping. There is a dark spiritual element to it all. At their core, they are driven by covetousness. They themselves do not have the ability to honestly earn wealth, or they are not willing to go "Hank Reardon" for ten or twenty years, sacrificing everything for decades to get there. So instead, they concoct plans to take it from the productive among us, and to pass all manner of destructive taxes upon all, and distribute the largesse to themselves. So while they pontificate about "fairness", it is all about them coveting what others have earned and taking it from them.
carnot| 6.11.10 @ 11:28AM
Mr Gore does have a lot of houses!!!
JimH| 6.11.10 @ 8:14AM
At one level the One has to enjoy these demonstrations because they allow him to claim that he is governing from he middle.
Ned| 6.11.10 @ 11:49AM
"Enjoy?" His band of thugs orchestrates the demonstrations to give him cover as a "moderate"... that's Political Disinformation 101, and the Alinsky crowd has VAST experience misrepresenting themselves (to the ignorant masses)
Nancy| 6.11.10 @ 4:35PM
The middle of what...hell? I contend that it is Obama's overall purpose to completely destroy the economy and what is left of our Republic. He already knows that he's a one termer, and doesn't care. The plan is for a fundamental change from a republic to a communist socialist regime. And he's doing a fine job of achieving just that.
Howard| 6.11.10 @ 9:10AM
I don't see Obama as a purely doctrinaire leftist; more of a thug, Chicago, politician. Hence, he will send more drone aircraft to Afghanistan than Bush did. But, he will also take over GM, because it gives him power, not because of some pure ideology about nationalizing business. He has chips to cash in there. I think part of the problem also, is that he is passive, all of the "present" votes in the IL Senate. He outsourced the Stimulus bill to Obey, Pelosi, and Reid. They are the real leftists. They want 90% marginal taxes, a weak military, and government ownership. Obama is an empty suit.
REt. Marine| 6.11.10 @ 9:35AM
You need to do some more research, it was the members of the TIDES foundation SEIU, Communist party members who wrote almost all of the current legislation in process, dingy harry Reid, san fran nanny Pelousy for the better part are lazy and power hungry and willing to let others do the dirty work for them as to claim they did not do this to our Country, but of course we all know they are all liars to the first order nonetheless.
Howard| 6.12.10 @ 9:26AM
Pure fantasy on your part. Obey had been waiting 40 years to write that bill. He didn't need a bunch of pinkie ring union thugs to tell him what to do. The end result may please them, but, Obey didn't need help.
Nancy| 6.11.10 @ 4:39PM
More research needed. The suit may be empty, but the pockets are getting fuller. Check out the Chicago Climate Exchange, and Obama's part. He will make millions (if not billions) through the crap and trade deal. It's convulted, by design, but Al Gore is involved as well as Franklin Raines, Goldman Sachs and lots of others. Follow the money.
Ret. Marine| 6.12.10 @ 7:13AM
Been there done that and have the proof on file. Anyone care to really know where the "won" got his money to steal America?
martin j smith| 6.11.10 @ 9:33AM
Howard, Doctrinaire left and thuggery go together quite well. They are not mutually exclusive.
Howard| 6.12.10 @ 9:31AM
They may complement each other, but they are philosophically different. Strategy vs. tactics. Leftists/Progressives/Marxists have an overarching worldview. It is called Communism. Thug politicians do not look beyond their nose. They want power, money, and good seats at a ball game. They would sell Lenin the rope he would hang them with.
Louis Jenkins| 6.11.10 @ 9:48AM
"He knows that Obama is moving the left's agenda more successfully than any president in the past 40 years, and yet he is "dismayed and disaffected."
Could it be that the Pretender n Chief has had a change of heart? Naw, Naw, Naw. Wrong again.
John Kirk| 6.11.10 @ 10:32AM
Here's the old problem: in the 20th Century lots of non-left people hated the Left's ideas. Here's the new problem: in the 21st Century even the Left hates the Left's ideas. Obama & Pelosi are being cursed for actually implementing the policies the Left claims to desire. The fantasy of free health insurance is a lot more appealing than the reality of the government forcing you to pay for health insurance. The Left, Right & Center all hate the idea of being forced to pay for health insurance. The only difference is the Right & Center were honest about this before Obama took office. I predict we are going to see the Left cursing Obama on foreign policy, energy, immigration. It will not be pretty or pleasant, but it will be educational.
carnot| 6.11.10 @ 11:27AM
John...the Left is attacking Obama, Pelosi, et al, for not implementing the full agenda fast enough...not for the realities of the actual policies.
Paul| 6.11.10 @ 11:45AM
When is someone going to have the courage to call for impeachment of this president?
Jeff Perren| 6.11.10 @ 12:53PM
" You get the feeling that these people would actually vote for Che Guevara if they had the chance."
This is only error in an otherwise superb post, and a minor one at that. Che Guevara supporters - like the Woody Allens and Tom Friedmans in America - are not interested in voting. They want leftward change, even if it means literal gunplay. In fact, I suspect many of them would like that better than having it done the boring old legal way, through endless, stifling regulations.
RCV| 6.14.10 @ 10:10PM
The only people I hear talking about gunplay instead of electoral politics are on this website. See above for examples.
Jeff Perren| 6.11.10 @ 1:38PM
P.S. I don't have the link anymore but some commenter on HotAir put it as well as I've ever seen it put: "Waa! Waa! Obama, you stink. You're not turning the country into a communist hellhole fast enough! Waa! Waa!"
Or words to that effect.
Scott Fraundorf| 6.11.10 @ 1:50PM
As a left, anarchist, liberal, I agree with this article. The left is too hard on Obama, because he isn't selling them out. It's akin to the radical Republicans giving Lincoln a hard time, because he was perceived as being too 'centrist' on the slavery issue.
Margie| 6.12.10 @ 12:43AM
Just curious, do you refer to yourself as a Libertarian as well?
GeeOhPeaSuhX| 6.11.10 @ 1:50PM
Wow!!! Great post!!!! You are so smart and great!!
We all have our guns ready to get all these people...loaded and ready to fire at will!!!
Don't tread on me!!
These colors don't run!!
Take my counrty back!!!
coal carrier| 6.11.10 @ 5:10PM
We don’t need guns. That is just what they want us to do. We need an educated electorate to pull the handles for small government, low tax conservative candidates come November 2010 and then in 2012. We need to kill them at the polls.
Average Infidel| 6.12.10 @ 7:18AM
I agree with you on this one, however, you must seriously consider when the first shot is heard, many of out here in the fly-over country know and have marked our own lefty's as targets, we are determined to get them out of our live at any expense, even gun-play. Time to stop playing around with the feely-touchy-idiots and make them make a decission, freedom or?
RCV| 6.14.10 @ 12:44PM
Happily, you're probably already on ATF's list along with the rest of you Timothy McVeigh-would bes.
Oldefarte| 6.11.10 @ 2:21PM
In repeating myself, Obama SOLD himself and his agenda as MODERATION so as to become elected. Otherwise, he would not have stood A CHANCE IN HADES of reaching 1600. Using the old Roman wooden/trojun horse war structure/mechanism as a model, he stealthed himself into the presidency by masquerading as a MODERATE agent of change. We should have but did not realize then that his change meant what Andrew now describes. Again, also, the one/only way to CORRECT our previous mistake is by voting for true change in November plus!!!!!!!
Margie| 6.11.10 @ 2:53PM
Does true change have a party? Come on, Oldefarte, say it and take the risk I always do of being slandered and maligned. You know as well as I do and everyone else that the party opposed to the Marxist Democrats is the REPUBLICAN party.
Until we decide upon facing it and stop bashing it and others who tell the blunt truth then we will continue to get "the government we deserve".
And like the Toddards, (see above), the Left will continue to rejoice in our stupidity. (not you, I am saying those who think this way)!
Oldefarte| 6.11.10 @ 4:14PM
Margie, The one/only time that I voted for a Democrat in my 64 years on this planet was for Edwin Edwards against David Duke [no other explanation should be necessary]. Sadly, the Republicans have put forth candidates [ie Dole, McCain, Ford,etc] which were Democrat-lites. In the last election, McCain could/should have gone after Obama [Palin wanted to do so but was overruled] as to his/Obama's true personae; and the end result was that Obama is now President. Excluding the Democrat Party as nothing but radicals, Hollywood and college eggheads; the Republican Party still needs to come out of the political CLOSET and tell it like it is to the basically moderate voting public. If and when they do, they'll support candidates such as Rand Paul, Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, and [maybe] Mitt Romney as representatives who can/will get this country back upon solid financial/political/economic footing that will prevent its destruction and guarantee its survival!!!!!!!!
Oldefarte| 6.11.10 @ 4:20PM
PS [Margie]----Reagan had the right idea economically with tax cuts, but failed by not getting governmental budgetary expanse reductions [had to spend money on military but failed to rein in social welfare expendatures increases since Johnson's Great Society]. What's needed is [from my limited knowledge of his accompolishments] a Chris Christie type federal presidency!!!!!
Margie| 6.11.10 @ 5:44PM
Well Oldefarte,
McCain/Palin STILL would have been FAR better than this Marxist admin and that's my whole point! Never will we have a perfect candidate no matter who they are.
It's either the party of Marxists or the party of FREEDOM. It's our choice and our responsibility.
I'm all for conservatives winning. When somebody says to me, "Well, I'm for conservatives winning!" I say OK~ and who isn't? (except for certain Libertarians who will not vote but for a Paul type).
It reminds me of the Lefties who say, "I want clean air and clean water!" As if the rest of us don't.
Ha. They cried that Christie was a RINO. They cried that voting for McCain/Palin wasn't good enough. These are the same people that will hand the election back over to Obummer. They will get the government they truly deserve but not only that but they will subject the rest of it to it as well!
Christ Christie would make a good President, I agree, so far as we can tell. He has no fear, believes in God, is a family man, and understands that shrinking government and not punishing citizens by taxing them to death is the way to go. True change is only going to come by way of the Republican party.
The one thing we can actually thank Obama for is for the fact that he has woken the sleeping giant. Now if we can all actually decide to vote him out of office. Can we pull together and do it is the question?
The Marxist boot on the neck~ have we had enough yet? (again, I am not addressing you personally but to those who are wavering.)
ANY Republican is better than ANY Democrat. There are NO Marxists, no Communists in the Republican party.
Margie| 6.11.10 @ 5:46PM
Oops, typo. Should be Chris Christie, above.
RCV| 6.14.10 @ 12:47PM
Please, we Democrats are begging. Please run Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman and Rand Paul. Please.
guy| 6.11.10 @ 3:41PM
Mr Cline,
I'm curious. How many voters are actually what you would call " the far left"?
I think we all make a false assumption that they are a much larger group than they really are because of their numbers in the House and the Senate, and because of who lives in the White House.
I'll bet they are less than 10% of voters and that they are able to control another 20% of mindless idiots who will do as they are told.
I think that the current number of them at the highest levels of government is an anomaly brought about by their infiltration of the democrat party and by a well-deserved voter revolt against the republican party.
I think that in order to defeat this enemy we must know their real numbers and their real strengths. While they are certainly not going to be a push-over to destroy, they are certainly not as strong as people make them out to be. They are simply LOUD.
To paraphrase Alinsky, we need to identify them and isolate them and ridicule them.
Nancy| 6.11.10 @ 4:51PM
I agree. You only find these idiots in the media, Hollywood and academia. The rest of the country feels like Alice down the rabbit hole. Everything is upside down. And they are loud, and get the coverage.
We just need to do what needs to be done...get the vote out in November. Hopefully, the morons will stay home (no president to elect) and we can make effective change in the House and Senate. Otherwise, the gig is up.
martin j smith| 6.11.10 @ 4:44PM
As I hear news about the Gulf Oil Situation,about Obama's moves against Israel, about the vote to give the EPA power to control energy against the will of the voter I feel more and more that what we have is a trojan horse president--we have a man called the President of the United States purposefully trying to destroy us. I think at the very least even though the votes are not there yet, the subject of impeachment should be raised. In addition another factor shoud be considered. Given the character of Obama, could it be that the coming election could be circumvented in some way? Obama must be carefully watched. I fear for our future if we are not viligent.
Nancy| 6.11.10 @ 4:56PM
And how about nothing getting done in the Gulf of Mexico with the oil spill. I've read about all kind of help being offered, and being refused. Some guy up in Maine with miles and miles of boom line, told no. Dutch government offered help, told no thanks. Do they really want to fix the mess? I don't think so.
Petronius| 6.11.10 @ 6:13PM
As a reformed radical lib I can relate to the disappointment of the garden variety gutter dwelling leftist. The #1 item on his agenda is and always has been total reversal of fortune. B. O. didn't promise him that, but it's what he voted for and desires more than winning a 9 figure lotto jackpot. He will never be sated until the carcass of every business executive swings from the lamp posts and picked to the bone by carrion crows and all of Their wealth divided among the losers who will be granted squatting rights in the properties of their former owners. Having destroyed the enterprises that supplied the necessities for living the economically illiterate mob will murder the professionals and middle managers too. After that, any person practicing skilled trades would be conscripted into government service; (forced labor), until they refuse to work and be executed as well. And when there's nobody left except the ignorant, indolent, incompetent, self absorbed savages, this country will become a carbon copy of Zimbabwe: a hellhole populated by two mobs, the government goons, and everyone else. It would not be otherwise as the lowlife will be at the top of the food chain. They won't settle for less. So mote it be. Hail the return of the Dark Ages.
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ojo grande| 6.11.10 @ 10:53PM
Coal Carrier,
Great comments and unfortunately true.
I know someone who has a top secret clearance and he said that there is no way he would have passed security with Obama's history....go figure.
Yosemeti Sam| 6.12.10 @ 2:33AM
" ... How out of touch is the left? ... it complains that he's not going far enough fast enough...."
But you useful idiots gotta remember - BHO as expressed in his ghost-written booooooooks has a strategy of NOT MAKING ANY SUDDEN MOVES!
Got it!
Dingy and the WWOTW sho nuf got it - tough.
LOL.
Radegunda| 6.12.10 @ 2:47PM
Some of the lefty loons may not be so clueless about what BHO is doing. Some of them may be tactically feeding the myth that he's a centrist or even right-wing, as well as trying to make sure that he doesn't really turn centrist.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.12.10 @ 9:56AM
Heh,
I just had an interesting thought. I wonder who Obama will have to put on his Presidential Pardon List before he leaves office.
I see those all through his administration; some indictable as actual traitors and other felonies as well.
Perhaps a looooong list.
Margie| 6.12.10 @ 11:00AM
Well just like Bill Clinton did, the traitor will pardon the traitors, won't he?
cindy| 6.12.10 @ 1:17PM
Look what's happened to the democrats since the passage of healthcare reform-they're in deep doo. Does it make sense then for Obama to fulfill the desires of only 20% of the country?
Jim O'Brien| 6.12.10 @ 1:25PM
Obama will eventually start dressing like Hugo Chavez, his compadre. Well, we got rid of the USSR, so I guess we can survive Obama in office for x more days. January 2013 can't come soon enough. How much more damage will he do in the meantime?
FTM| 6.12.10 @ 4:28PM
Let's all step back and take a cool, calculated look at this administration for a moment shall we? What has President Obama actually achieved? Best as I can tell the one sure achievement of the Obama Administration so far has been to Make the Carter Administration look competent.
The attempted health care hijacking isn't going to stand, soo many states are against the plan. Conservitaves and liberals alike hate the health care plan. Cap and Trade is as dead as a hammer. All the thug governments the world over that President Obama tried to cuddle up to are treating him like an adolescent sissy-boy. Several plans for dealing with the oil spill crisis of the century and the Obama administration did nothing, just more of the same posing and pandering.
Another achievement of the Obama administration has been to tack an extra three or so trillion dollars to the national debt. Even more inept bungling of a serious economic recession, the product of the government (Democrat and Republican) goofing around with the banking industry in regards to the housing bubble.
The Obama administration has assured that "progressives" won't be paid any serious attention politically for at least a generation.
Now, let's take a look at the other side of the coin, The best that the Republican party can do is John McCain. Really. That's it? Truth be told folks, the Republican party is just as dismayed and repelled by the Tea Party movement as are the liberals. The Republicans see the Tea Party as a collection of outlaws and agitators. The Tea Party to the Republican Party is an untolerable deviation from the status quo.
Seems to me that the Democrats are going to get the stuffings kicked out of them come November. To that I ask, "So what? Big Deal." Who with a hat full of brains can say with any degree of confidence that the Republicans would be any better?
We have a serious problem here. We have a $14 trillion national debt. Ten plus percent unemployment. We have been invaded by a hostile horde and in response we've thrown open the welfare coffers in welcome. We've allowed the world to pillage away our manufacturing base. We have a commander-in-chief that looks all the world to me to be an illegal alien himself. The truth of this matter is that even if we wanted to reverse the leftist damage that has been done to the United States of America it would be a bigger undertaking than landing a man on the moon. The problem is so completely huge and the political/social/legal systems are so entrenched to support the quo where would one even start? The trouble that the United States of America faces is going to take generations to fix and in my honest and most humble opinion the average American doesn't have the attention span to even focus on the problem.
How are you going to cure this disease without killing the patient?
The War Department sent President Roosevelt a report a couple weeks after the Pearl Harbor attack saying that the American military might be able to stop the Japanese at the Mississappi river. The American people were frightened and for the most part defenseless ergo kids peeling aluminum off of gum wrappers for scrap drives to build aircraft. Seventy years later you can't get a kid to focus on any specific topic long enough to make an impression. Folks, I think that we're screwed.
Harrison| 6.12.10 @ 5:09PM
Bill Clinton did more to damage the Democratic party than any other person of recent memory. NAFTA, welfare reform... Democrats got voted out of office and didn't return for years. Obama is damaging the Democratic party in a different way... instead of staking out "Republican" stances he is moving too Left for most Americans and thus will cause his party to be voted out whereas with Clinton Democrats ate their own in this case Americans will eat the Democrats.
John II| 6.13.10 @ 6:14PM
Professor Obama and his cheap criminal acolytes have successfully uncovered a terrible weakness in the American system, not to mention the corrupt education system on which they're coasting.
I'm trying to make a rough estimate of what this all means. Some sixty percent of Americans are now against Obama's explicit policies. But before the creep was elected President, more than eighty percent of Americans were against socialism and appeasement. The trouble, of course, is that concrete reality has a way of trumping ideas. Obama IS President; ergo, more than 20 percent of Americans remain infatuated with the ass when, if asked in the abstract whether they support his ideas, they would all say no.
So then: We now have a President who is truly and irrevocably supported by about fifteen percent of the populace--approximately the proportion of the populace that, in any routine statistical examination of almost any random sampling of any population, would prove to be political psychopaths.
Ordinarily the psychopaths would be roughly evenly distributed at the extremes of the political spectrum--but in America, fully fifteen percent of the population teeters on the edge of the Left and beyond. The truly extreme right-wingers are relatively few.
THAT is Professor Obama's "political base." The other 85 percent are up for grabs--and very impatient with Dole and McCain type Republicans: good men who happen to be sloppy and lazy in their articulation of the American thing they live. We need good men and women with an articulate sense of what makes America truly different and infinitely better in a fallen world. Otherwise, the good 85 percent are going to be permanently under the thumb of the very bad 15 percent--the standard arrangement for most of world history and, still, for the overwhelming majority of the 200-odd nations of the world.
RCV| 6.13.10 @ 9:40PM
It is pretty laughable that you consider yourself and the others on this site as in the middle. The "truly extreme right wingers" predominate on American Spectator blogs. I oppose socialism and appeasement, worked full-time to elect Obama and am very glad we succeeded. It isn't a "weakness in the system" that elected him, it was the majority of the American people and I believe they will do so again in 2012. If you look at the current array of potential GOP candidates, starting with Palin, there is not one who has a ghost of a chance of being elected.
John II| 6.13.10 @ 11:50PM
Well, it's not at all laughable that you can't read--but that's part of the general cultural trouble. I didn't say anything about the "middle." Most Americans--that is, most normal human beings--are (relative to the contemporary spectrum) center-right in their sociopolitical views. Your hero lied about his own position on the spectrum, the media never called him on any of his lies, and he won. In fewer than 18 months he lost that majority support, but still commands more support than he possibly could if more Americans took the trouble to be better informed.
And if you regard the Spectator as inhabited by extreme right wingers, your angle of vision can only be from the extreme left.
Which is to say, you're a liar. You promote socialism and appeasement if you worked "full-time" (does that mean you don't have a real job?) for Obama and have no regrets in the face of the obvious.
Fine, then. You belong to that 15 percent of unteachable psychopaths, that's all. You're part of the Professor's smug political base. You would like to be part of the anointed who tell the other 85 percent of Americans minutely how to live their lives.
On the sad topic of the GOP, we shall see what we shall see by November--but I'm fully prepared to agree with you. If Professor Obama wins a second term in 2012, it surely won't be because of anything any longer appealing about him personally or politically. He's a narcissistic creep, rather like his more passionate supporters.
RCV| 6.14.10 @ 11:18AM
You guys were calling him a "socialist" all during the campaign. We elected him precisely because he promised to reform health care, end the Bush tax cuts, and crack down on Wall Street excesses, so don't spew this crap about lieing about his place on the spectrum. You lost. Get over it and suck it up.
Hugh| 6.14.10 @ 12:17AM
Where is Obama's new socialism heading us? We need only look to Europe for the answer.
How dare Gert Wilders not surrender freedom to Islam? The New York Times brands Dutch political leader Geert Wilders an ‘extremist” and “populist” who causes trouble for “mainstream” politicians with his “unsavoury policies”. It then calls on a Dutch academic to help explain how bad this “outspoken critic of Islam” really is:
Dick Houtman, a professor of political sociology at Erasmus University in Rotterdam, said that Mr. Wilders had built on Mr. Fortuyn’s legacy, successfully avoiding the overtly racist language of far-right politicians in other countries by highlighting issues like freedom of speech, female equality and gay rights. ”That serves to exclude Muslims from the Dutch political consensus,” he said.
Are these guys listening to themselves? If “highlighting issues like freedom of speech, female equality and gay rights” does indeed “exclude Muslims from the Dutch political consensus”, then who is the real problem here? Which side of the debate does indeed have “unsavoury policies”?
This siding with the threat rather than the threatened is already sick enough, But note also that Wilders’ forerunner, gay academic Pim Fortuyn, was murdered by a green activist upset by his warnings of the threat to freedom posed by Islam, and that Wilders himself is now under 24-hour guard merely for speaking his mind.
Michael Finch sums up: Apparently to be part of the postmodern Western “political consensus”, too be inclusive of Muslims, we need to be against freedom of speech, gay rights and female equality?
Houtman, aware of it or not, has made a brilliant, if obvious, observation. In order for many Muslim immigrants to feel culturally and politically included in the West, most clearly in Holland, they need to exist in an environment that is not open to the pluralistic, open and free West of the Enlightenment of the past 300 years.
So when a Western politician like Wilders openly embraces the values of liberty, he is called an extremist, hate monger and radical with ties to neo Nazis. The elite class, currently in Washington and throughout the halls of Western academia and the media, feel it more important to be inclusive of Muslims then holding true to the values that created the most open and free society the world has ever seen. And to oppose this new orthodoxy makes one a criminal, as the Left hopes to make of Wilders.
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