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Alinskys in Action
According to the SEIU’s allies at National People’s Action, America’s future cannot include capitalism. But it does include the Democratic Party.
As Congress considers the Democrats’ unprecedented legislative assault on Wall Street, radical leftists say the bad economy gives them new opportunities to push America even farther down the road to socialism.
“The banking crisis is the next big thing,” said George Goehl, executive director of the Chicago-based group National People’s Action.
National People’s Action has been participating in a nationwide campaign with the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), Jobs With Justice, Americans for Financial Reform, and other groups called the “Showdown in America,” which consists largely of loud street protests. NPA and SEIU have also been using angry mobs to invade banks and terrorize bank executives in their homes.
“The banking crisis is the way to build a big economic justice movement in this country,” Goehl said during a panel discussion this week at the left-wing “America’s Future Now” conference in Washington, D.C. The confab was hosted by the Campaign for America’s Future and its sister organization, the Institute for America’s Future.
“People are questioning capitalism. People are asking, Will this economy ever work for me or will it work for my kids? This is a once in a lifetime opportunity as progressives to engage millions of Americans in a big conversation around serious economic restructuring, not around eking out some victories around the margins, not about making life a little less worse for people, but about big time transformative change.”
If you build a platform for revolution, they will come, Goehl said.
“If we create a space for people to come out they want to come out. People are ready to move to the streets, some because they’re angry, some because they want justice right now, and some because they’re tired of hearing about the tea party coming out, and we as leaders in the progressive movement — we’re failing if we don’t create that room for people.”
Goehl said his comrades need to get involved in “mass political education at a different level than we’ve seen.” A century ago during the populist movement there were tens of thousands of populist lecturers roaming the country proselytizing, he said.
In an interview, Goehl said the “Showdown” is continuing. “Nothing’s nailed down yet but there should be a whole set of activities.”
NPA, he explained, “came out of Chicago neighborhood organizing and then basically people kept running into the fact that they needed some kind of national power,” said Goehl. “All the issues they were running into had a national angle so they would come together to try to come up with a constructive solution locally and then it’d be a federal problem.”
During the same panel discussion, Heather Booth, executive director of Americans for Financial Reform, said an economy-killing “financial speculation tax” was needed to curb the incentive for people to, well, participate in capitalism.
“A big battle still needs to be waged to curb the incentive for speculation and to get our money back to fund jobs and health care, climate and more,” said the practiced orator.
“This fight against Wall Street is part of an even larger fight over who matters in the society, over our values and our priorities, over whether or not we have corporate control in banking, whether BP can destroy the coast, whether the insurance companies can deny our health care, whether companies can dominate our politics saying that money is speech,” Booth said.
Booth is an old hand at leftist astro-turfing operations. She’s a disciple of Saul Alinsky and she founded the Midwest Academy, a training institute for radical community organizers. “Alinsky is to community organizing as Freud is to psychoanalysis,” she has been quoted saying.
According to former radical David Horowitz’s online encyclopedia of the left, DiscoverTheNetworks, “In the late 1960s and early 1970s, she supported the Weather Underground.”
What’s worrisome is that Booth has strong ties to the Obama administration: She’s a former training director for the Democratic National Committee.
About the Author
Matthew Vadum is an award-winning investigative journalist at a conservative watchdog group in Washington, D.C. Vadum is also author of Subversion Inc: How Obama’s ACORN Red Shirts are Still Terrorizing and Ripping Off American Taxpayers.
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Carol| 6.11.10 @ 6:54AM
Would someone please tell me where these anti-capitalists think the money comes from?
What is this justice they seek?
Why do they think by getting their hands on the banks and businesses then things will be changed to their liking?
I do not get what these people want because the only way to live a good life is through hardwork - not community organizing - I know the head organizer happens to be POTUS but they can't all be POTUS at one time.
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 2:07PM
The money will come from the hard-working people you speak of, when given the justice of a fair shake, an even playing field, and the elected and connected are not beholden to our economic overlords. They are speaking for you, unless you are independently wealthy, and even then, they speak for a better civilization for us all to live in. You apparently don't realize the cards are stacked against you and your children to succeed and the propagandists from the wealthy right are convincing you through their mouthpieces Rush, WSJ and Fixed News that anything not coming from the Economic Overlords is bad, bad, bad ... Wake up! Does it really have to take another Great Depression for you to see?
Eric Cartman| 6.11.10 @ 2:19PM
Hey, PurpleSchmuck! How's every little thing? Look everybody, PurpleSchmuck thinks that because Rush makes a lot of money, the country is going broke! What a typical Ahole Liberal LOL! PS, Your grasp of Soviet Style Economics is astounding! Very good.
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 3:23PM
How interesting ... name calling again. How insightful.
Eric Cartman| 6.11.10 @ 3:44PM
Can't ya just see PurpleSchmuck now. Reading the comments, thinking "Oh, how droll you are! I must say, tis but amusing you try to debate with my highly educated brain with your sniping. You see, you commoner, I and my progressive chums do cluck our tongues at you so! Aha, haha, haha. Please understand, I can misquote and misunderstand everything, but I'm progressive, so it doesn't mater! Aha, haha, haha." LOL
You can always tell an uneducated Liberal Ahole like PS by how much he/she think they know. It always shows up when the try to twist the Founding Fathers and the Constitution into a liberal document. What a bright, shining ass the PurpleSchmuck is! Ah, haha, haha.
Ray`starmanmpls@hotmail.com| 6.11.10 @ 2:31PM
"The money will come from the hard-working people you speak of, when given the justice of a fair shake, an even playing field, and the elected and connected are not beholden to our economic overlords."
And just how is that going to happen when we replace "economic overlords" with 'government overlords" and those hard-working people working in their government appointed jobs, government built factories, government controlled "stores" are making, boxing, shipping, and selling only those things that the government allows them to make, only those things the government allows them to ship, only those things the government allows them to sell, and at wages that only the government allows them to earn? Where will the money come from, if not from the government overlords themselves? It sure won't come from that hard--working people!
Instead of freeing those hard working people, you're condemning them to perpetual slave labor, slaves to the government itself, with no way to advance, develop, and progress without government approval.
Compare that to the "evils" of capitalism, where I can choose were to work, what to buy, how much I'm willing to pay, and how much I am willing to be paid, along with all the vacations, benefits, and the like that I can negotiate for in a Capitalist workforce, a Capitalist society, it obvious that the true "overloads" are the socialists!
Well , you can have your socialist overlords and let them make all the decisions for you, create a destiny for you. I'll keep my capitalist "overlords" and make my own decisions, create my own destiny, thank you very much.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.13.10 @ 8:44AM
Ray.....
Well spoken.
Welcome to the conversation.
Osamas Pajamas| 6.11.10 @ 3:44PM
These croosk don't seek "justice" --- they seek "mandatory charity" --- the opposite of "justice." Thrown back into the gutters where they belong and denied the chance to live by legalized theft [socialism or other brands of statism], they'd resort to robbing liquor stores and bashing Grannie for her purse. So we need to arm the cashiers and store keepers and Grannies of America --- and we need to arm the privately-employed taxpayers and owners of private property against these thugs and against their favorite tool --- and that tool is "every level of American government." These statists are a cancer which we libertarians hope to "kill."
Oldefarte| 6.11.10 @ 4:41PM
Wrong, Purple. This country is CAPITALISTIC, not your favored SOCIALISTIC. The WORKER is employed by the COMPANY. The former takes no risks as the latter does, and does not deserve the wealth that the company produces, whereas the latter does. The former only deserves a market determined wage/benefits, not the profits generated by the latter. The latter is the 'brains' behind the company's existence, not the former who is only paid for labor services!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CBKC| 6.13.10 @ 5:08PM
Oldefarte, you just nailed it. It's the risk/reward thing...again....and again. You would think that the general public would eventually understand this.
RCV| 6.13.10 @ 5:39PM
You're so right, Oldefarte, those slovenly coal miners and oil rig workers and firefighters and steel workers take no risks.
Mike| 6.13.10 @ 7:02PM
RCV
You are being obtuse. The reference to risk is capital risk not physical risk. A business owner risks being destitute if the the business fails, the working does not. A rig worker or a steel working is working in a dangerous, difficult and risky job. As Oldefart pointed out they get paid a market wage for their labor not for their capital risk. The riskier and more difficult the job the higher the wage. I know some of those guys. They make more in their two weeks on then I count in profit from my business in two months.
Are you ignorant or just being intentionally difficult?
Mike Johnston
SFC USA (RET)
Clinton Nee Publius| 6.11.10 @ 8:04PM
To see what? What would you do that you haven't already done? The better civilization you talk about always involves the liquidation of millions to make room for those who the socialists decide are worthy. The reason they do this is because socialism isn't a sustainable economic system of policy; it's a corrupt criminal conspiracy based upon the premise of seizing control of other people's wealth (stealing) and then playing God (with their money, lives and property) to try and decide how to allocate production and investment in a world that is ruled at all times and all levels by the impacts of Rational Choice Theory and the laws of mathematics.
The reality is that socialism never works because for it to work we have to believe that you can suspend the laws of mathematics and that people will forgo acting in their own self-interest - and yet this never happens without tyranny and enslavement; the cornerstones of the criminal conspiracy cult of world socialism.
One must ask - what is the actual record of socialism and its insanely criminal cousins - fascism, communism and totalitarianism? Hitler had complete control of the Third Reich for 13 years and could not make it work. The communists in Russia had complete control for 72 years and only managed to enslave their population and completely deplete their economy's resources and output - a total failure. Ma0 murdered more than 30 million people to reduce China to a perfect state of socialism and had the political will to do the impossible and force people to forgo their own personal interests in favor of supporting the corrupt criminal elitists of the Party - and yet it failed as well. Where is the evidence that socialism works? If it were successful, then the Soviet Union would have the world's largest economy today. Cuba, Vietnam and North Korea would have the highest per capita income instead of being in the bottom quintile of absolute basket case economies. If socialism were believable, then how do we explain trillions of dollars of wealth expended on consumption for the poor over the past 45 years in America's "social justice" wars, only to find the percentage of households mired in poverty last year was 13% - the same it was in the first year of benefits for the Great Society (1966)?
To believe socialism works, one must believe you can spend your way to prosperity. This would be good news if it worked, but whether you are a socialist fool or a capitalist pig, it cannot be so; ask anyone mired in poverty how spending their way to prosperity works for their family.
The apologists for this bankrupt system of conspirators who seek to steal under color of authority for their own corrupt ends would have you believe that socialism would work and that "we just didn't have "the right leaders"" . This obvious line of twisted reasoning is that if the right people were running the show, somehow socialism would be made to work and glory would result. The only thing worse than the mathematical lunacy of socialism is the lunacy that says if we wait once every hundred years the socialist Messiah will come along who will bring prosperity with him as if he is The Great Pumpkin. What about the rest of the time? Are we to believe that a hundred years of suffering and the murder of tens of millions is somehow justified by a leader who comes up every 100 years and can actually deliver prosperity? That's not a sustainable system of macroeconomic organization and policy, that's a political fairy tale. Only a brain-dead fool would sign up for that kind of plan, but hey - socialists are nothing if not gullible criminals who will do anything to perpetuate the theft of a nation's resources for their personal profit. Worked for Pol Pot. Worked for Idi Amin. Worked for Yasser Arafat... Socialists must believe they will all somehow be part of the "insider group" that lives off the fat of the land while everyone else digs the ditches and labors in the re-education camps and extermination centers and gulags that are the hallmarks of this "people's system of social justice".
To this sad tale of complete horse hockey we must add the realization that the wise men of socialist governance and policy who will presume to make the decisions on the allocation of labor, resources, capital and income "for the masses", making these decisions based upon political dogma and not in deference to the requirements of Rational Choice Theory. Thus, the only outcome can be one of complete inefficiency and the choice of having no organized approach to market management at all would serve better than having someone think they can replace the beneficial impacts that Rational Choice Theory provides for all market economies, at all times and all levels.
In the end, socialism is nothing more than a depraved conspiracy of those who would have us support their existence at our sole risk and expense as the price to pay for our own existence. This proves the point that socialism is as much a disease as it is anything else and the best thing to do about any disease is to permanently eradicate it so nobody else has to suffer its deleterious effects.
Thanks Purpleguy, but I'd rather stick forks in my eyes than believe The Great Commie Pumpkin is going to save us from the corruption of the liberal-progressive movement. There's over 100 million people murdered by liberal-progressives in the last century alone that bear witness to what you have in store. If it were up to me, you'd be swinging from a tree for the collective benefit of mankind. You understand, it's for the benefit of all that we ask you to make this sacrifice.
coal carrier| 6.12.10 @ 7:44AM
Oh my Lord, what a fabulous post. Purple, SLT and Brooks can not reply because the truth is more powerful then fairytales.
Clinton nee Publius| 6.13.10 @ 2:21PM
Thank you, coal carrier. Truth is a powerful weapon and history is the meter by which we judge claims of results.
Reggie | 6.12.10 @ 9:02PM
Bravo, Clinton Nee Publius! I was so impressed with your comment that I have posted it on my blog. Excellent post!
Clinton nee Publius| 6.13.10 @ 2:19PM
Thank you, Reggie. What a nice thing to say.
Newsel| 6.13.10 @ 7:10AM
Great reply - it’s a keeper - mention socialism (is there really a difference between communism and socialism?) and the images that come to mind are Stalin, Gulags and the UK labour party repeatedly bankrupting and destroying the UK economy with the capitalists improving the economy in one cycle and the socialists running it into the ground in the following cycle. The UK has been repeating this cycle since 1945. It has just taken longer for the US to get to this point in time as the US economy was so much stronger to start with. Only idealistic idiots or saboteurs would quadruple national debt in 18 months and here we are!
Clinton nee Publius| 6.13.10 @ 2:18PM
Communism is not actually a system of economic organization, capital market management and fiscal policy - it is a political movement based upon socialism. In his book Das Kapital, Karl Marx makes reference to the so-called "Theory of Productive Forces", but this concept was never explained as to how it may in fact work.
Thank you for the kind words; maybe I can do something to actually earn them.
betty boop| 6.13.10 @ 7:53AM
Wonderful comment, Clinton, but the sad part is I fear the ones doing the fork sticking may not be us. If things continue as they are now going, we will all be in the gulag. This is the fury that the NEA hath wrought... new math indeed- where were Adam Smith and Hume, and TRUE history in the schools for the last fifty years? Nowhere. Those who never learned history .... are now running the country!
Clinton nee Publius| 6.13.10 @ 2:23PM
Thank you, ma'am. I have my fears as well, but if we meet the hyperbole of socialism with the actual facts that demonstrate why it can never work, then (eventually) we may count upon people realizing that the suffering only really begins once you agree that criminality is a sustainable model of economics, fiscal policy and monetary policy. Let's hope the worst doesn't come.
Dr. Anthony| 6.14.10 @ 9:24PM
One of the best posts I have ever read.
betty boop| 6.13.10 @ 7:42AM
If all Purple has ever read is Alinsky, then her/his education is pretty slim indeed. Try reading Russian history, read Solzhenitsin, Ayn Rand, nearly anything TRUTHFUL about the effects of Communism, and you might just BEGIN to understand what you want to plunge our bright rich country into. Thanks a lot. You deserve all the names anyone can think of to call you.
JimE| 6.14.10 @ 12:54AM
purpleanus the useful idiot speaks.
Osamas Pajamas| 6.11.10 @ 3:43PM
These croosk don't seek "justice" --- they seek "mandatory charity" --- the opposite of "justice." Thrown back into the gutters where they belong and denied the chance to live by legalized theft [socialism or other brands of statism], they'd resort to robbing liquor stores and bashing Grannie for her purse. So we need to arm the cashiers and store keepers and Grannies of America --- and we need to arm the privately-employed taxpayers and owners of private property against these thugs and against their favorite tool --- and that tool is "every level of American government." These statists are a cancer which we libertarians hope to "kill."
Becky| 6.11.10 @ 7:13AM
They are people with great big chips on their shoulders. Every thing that doesn't work out the way they want is someone else's fault. Because they are special, or so they've been told their whole life.
It never occurs to people like the President that there are those who have bad days and things happen to them too, who just pick themselves up and do what they can, and want to be left alone.
Where does the money come from? They don't have a clue, because like Obama, most of these agitators actually come with silver spoons in their mouths. I cannot think of a president in my lifetime that comes close to being the spendthrift and thug this one is. He spent almost a billion dollars to get elected. A billion. This is not the party of the poor.
The narrative they sell, is not the one they live. Terrorism is not because of poverty, if it were, stability of legal systems would not be possible.
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 2:12PM
Everything you say in the beginning of you comment is EXACTLY what the Economic Overlords want you to think. You have been thoroughly indoctrinated... don't believe me .. just think about it. It's common sense.
"The narrative they sell, is not the one they live. " - And, do you think Rush, Hannity, Beck or O'Reilly live the narrative they sell? Really? with 400 million for Rush, 32 million for Beck ... Really? Who's side do you think they are really on? Come on, you can do it ... !
Diogenes | 6.11.10 @ 2:43PM
I think Purpleguy sounds just a little bit jealous and inadequate. Doesn't this moron realize that taking EVERY PENNY of hard earned money from Rush, Hannity or ANYONE ELSE would not put a single cent in anyone else's pocket.
Of course, when one is a left wing fanatic, reality doesn't matter. Just their hateful counterproductive failed ideology.
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 3:21PM
Who said anything about taking every single cent from the rich bastards? Since you will never be rich, why do you even give a shit?
That left or progressives you don't like produced most of the Founders of this country, Chuckie. Or do you think the British King was the lefty? ;-)
Eric Cartman| 6.11.10 @ 4:41PM
Yeah, Ahole! G the 3 was a Lefty! What a dumbass! Don't you know this? You don't understand the difference between Left and Right? The Founders were Capitalists, pindick. What an ASS! LOL
Hey everyone! Schmuck boy here thinks the Founders were Leftists! Aaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah! That just funny, I don't care who you are. Let's listen to some more history as interpreted by PurpleSchmuck. Go ahead, we're listening.
RCV| 6.13.10 @ 5:43PM
Not to be too nit-picky, but the founders were not "capitalists". Capitalism was still in its embryonic stage in 1770. Most of the founders were agrarian farmers, merchants, lawyers, etc., not capitalists.
Osamas Pajamas| 6.11.10 @ 3:44PM
These croosk don't seek "justice" --- they seek "mandatory charity" --- the opposite of "justice." Thrown back into the gutters where they belong and denied the chance to live by legalized theft [socialism or other brands of statism], they'd resort to robbing liquor stores and bashing Grannie for her purse. So we need to arm the cashiers and store keepers and Grannies of America --- and we need to arm the privately-employed taxpayers and owners of private property against these thugs and against their favorite tool --- and that tool is "every level of American government." These statists are a cancer which we libertarians hope to "kill."
Oldefarte| 6.11.10 @ 4:46PM
Rush, Hannity, Beck etc got their financial money because of their hard work to become EDUCATED, which resulted in their financial success. You on the other hand are nothing but a typical uneducated moron who demands the financial benefits ['wealth redistribution'] of those that have same. Go EARN it like everyone who has it had to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JmsA| 6.12.10 @ 11:51AM
Purpleturd,
Nothing but platitudes and old and tired cliches. It appears that all you're spewing, as are those on your side, is envy.
Here's something just for your brainwashed little brain and the delusion springing therefrom as well as the left's about gross deregulation by Bush. Enjoy:
Hoven's Index for June 12, 2011
Growth in spending on federal economic regulations (2005 constant dollars):
Reagan (1980 to 1988): +21%
Clinton (1992 to 2000): +33%
George W. Bush (2000 to 2008): +34%
Growth in federal staffing for economic regulation:
Reagan (1980 to 1988): -11%
Clinton (1992 to 2000): -12%
George W. Bush (2000 to 2008): +6%
Source: Susan Dudley and Melinda Warren of the Weidenbaum Center, Washington University.
How about that, turd? Come on, you can do it. You can figure it out. You're not fooling anyone. By the way, did you that Google search on Sylvia Baca, the Clinton staffer, BP staffer, and MMS staffer? As always, 11/02/2010
Melvin| 6.11.10 @ 7:22AM
I share no love of the banking industry but I also have absolutely no toleration of Unions period.
The solution is simple. Union jackals come upon a private citizens property, they promptly get arrested or get shot at by the homeowner.
A couple of union thugs laying in the front yard with gaping holes in their bodies would be best response to curb such, "mob-rule" behavior.
Bit of advice when your inside your home with your family scared out of your wits aim for the testicles and you'll probably hit them square in the chest. This technique compensates for muzzle rise.
Eric Cartman | 6.11.10 @ 8:46AM
Well, they won't be arrested, Melvin. Not in the coming Obamanation. So that leaves shooting. We must start using force against them now. Whether its tasers, spray, fists or a double tap from a .45 ACP. The only good "progressive" is a dead progressive. It's time for the civil war to begin, I hate to say. They have achieved the take-over of the top government posts because the Republicans are too stupid to see what's going on around them. Now all that's left is for the rabble-rousers to begin rabbling to effect change to Communism. So remember the words from long ago: Make Her Day, Kill a Commie for Mommy.
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 2:14PM
Way to be an American ... so tolerant, the Founders would be ashamed of you. Put your guns away and go use the tools the Founders gave you ... the vote.
You are treading on treasonous or at the very least criminal grounds ... You know you can be arrested as a terrorist, no questions asked, don't you?
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 3:15PM
Ruh Roh ... got under your skin, did I ? When the name calling starts you know I've hit close to home. I just want to have a lively debate on the issues, but bring it on, Chuckles.
Eric Cartman| 6.11.10 @ 4:25PM
LOL - yeah, that's right. I stay up all night thinking "That PurpleSchmuck really zinged me today! Why, my name calling didn't even phase him! What a manly man!" LOL
Or it could be I'm done with my research today and have time to waste describing your shortcomings.
Tim*| 6.11.10 @ 2:47PM
Now , do your Hitler Youth Duty & turn Eric in to the gestapo.
Remember , you serve The Fuhrer .
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 3:16PM
I don't have to ... the NSA will do it for me. You should be very afraid and look over your shoulder... ;-)
Tim*| 6.11.10 @ 3:40PM
Come & Get Us G-Man !
Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha !
You're A Worldclass Imbecile !
Eric Cartman| 6.11.10 @ 4:11PM
PurpleSchmuck now works for the NSA! LOL Can it get any better than this? Yes, Schmuck, the NSA is going to send the black helicopters and SWAT over to arrest me for telling you your a worthless piece of shit that needs to be wiped off my shoe and buried. And maybe the agents from Omega will hunt me down and put me in Gitmo. Or better yet, assassinate me by lethal umbrella dart. I better hide!
LOL - what a putz.
betty boop| 6.13.10 @ 8:02AM
yeah, I can see Purple at an NSA meeting. He'd be the nasty crumb on the tablecloth. When searching for conspiracies, the brainless left always ends up clutching at straws. God, the "educators" in this country are such damned losers, and have been for far too long. John Dewey may be the worst thing that ever happened to us.
Diogenes | 6.11.10 @ 2:50PM
Mr. Purpleguy;
Why is it ALL the violence is being committed by the the left and union thugs, Oh. I know. Because they are union thugs. I define a union member as someone who can't make it on his own merits and has to resort to extortion and violence to even be able to keep food on his table.
By the way, Mr. Unionthug, whats up with CARD CHECK. You like the vote but not the secret vote.
GO AWAY. You are so stupid it is annoying.
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 3:19PM
If you really knew anything about Card Check, you would support it. The "secret vote" is controlled by management and is not secret at all. Workers are worried about management reprisals and so vote down the unions. An open, transparent vote would stop that practice and let the workers vote freely. Now, we could have the government run the voting --- would you prefer that, it could use the voting machines we use for our elections?
Curtis Rasmussen| 6.11.10 @ 3:47PM
Purpleguy is not only a troll, he's nuts! I see a little paranoia in the statement above. The evil Management is out to get you!
This is the same argument used by the paranoid schizo neighbor of mine in a civil suit brought against her. Believing that my wife was purposefully spreading rumors about her, my neighbor nut job committed a brazen and cowardly act against my family. Refusing to face reality in the face of overwhelming evidence and the justified restraining order tied around her neck, she still believes she did no wrong.
Purpledouche worked at a company where his poor performance got management's attention. He was then laid off when times got bad. 'You damn capitalists!' douche yelled as security escorted him out the door. 'If it wasn't for you, I'd still have a job.' What the douche does not realize is without wealthy and successful people, there would have never been a job for him in the first place.
Eric Cartman| 6.11.10 @ 4:20PM
Now its the voting machines! Ya know, I hear Skynet is due to launch! I hear its a secret computer network that will control all the military. It's been rumored that Skynet actually was a Bush/Chaney creation that backfired and caused 9/11 - it wasn't pissed off Muslims at all! It was Skynet! And Diebold - they got Bush elected. And McDonald's management. They got America thinking about how delicious their french fries are so we wouldn't notice the Bush/Chaney/Skynet/Diebold connections!
But you guys don't notice anything - only what Rush and Hannity says! So says PurpleSchmuck!
Bohred| 6.11.10 @ 10:15PM
You obviously are either a tool of Unions or ignorant about them. Management has no access to the names of workers voting. None. If they try to subvert the vote all they have done is handed the Union a big stick to beat them with. But if the vote is public, the Union can, will and does intimidate the workers at home and on the job. That is why all the violence we have seen lately has been Union against individuals, that is how they think and work.
Also, you are just ignorant. You can't spell and you don't know guns. "You're" isn't possessive, and only and idiot would mount a sniper rifle like a Barret to anything. And what's with the "mercury filled" bullets? Something you read in your latest Superman rag?
Do you understand people here are laughing at you? You are too obviously young and dumb.
mike| 6.13.10 @ 8:20PM
OK so according to PG a secret ballet causes workers to vote against unions for fear of reprisals from management but an open vote will result in no reprisals from the union.
PG although I disagree with the premise that management controls the election I will grant you that stipulation if you grant me the stipulation that unions are comprised of human beings just like management.
Assuming that you believe that unions are populated by humans they are governed by the same human nature. Therefore there will be the same intimidation and reprisals from the unions as from management.
Perhaps we need no unions at all. There was a need in the past but then there was a need for buggy whips too. Time to move on
Mike Johnston
SFC USA (RET)
Osamas Pajamas| 6.11.10 @ 3:45PM
These crooks don't seek "justice" --- they seek "mandatory charity" --- the opposite of "justice." Thrown back into the gutters where they belong and denied the chance to live by legalized theft [socialism or other brands of statism], they'd resort to robbing liquor stores and bashing Grannie for her purse. So we need to arm the cashiers and store keepers and Grannies of America --- and we need to arm the privately-employed taxpayers and owners of private property against these thugs and against their favorite tool --- and that tool is "every level of American government." These statists are a cancer which we libertarians hope to "kill."
Bilwick| 6.11.10 @ 4:24PM
It's always a wonder PuprpleGuy can take the Mailed Fist of the his beloved State out of his rectum long enough to sit down and write so often.
His cognomen, by the way, derives from the color of his buttocks after the Michelle Obama lookalike pays to dress up like Ilse She-Wolf of the IRS and spank him with a rolled up copy of Form 1040 makes her weekly visit.
Oldefarte| 6.11.10 @ 4:48PM
A '''''VOTE''''' only entitles you to ELECT THE CANDIDATES OF YOUR CHOOSING. It does not entitle you to THE FINANCIAL WEALTH THAT RIGHTFULLY BELONGS TO OTHERS WHO EARNED IT BY THEIR HARD WORK AND EDUCATION!!!!!!
JimE| 6.14.10 @ 12:59AM
Once again purpleasswipe hides behind the constitution when is suits him.
Siler Streake| 6.11.10 @ 3:31PM
Got it right Melvin. My neighbor is an officer in a large regional bank, and he's also a hunter. We were discussing this recently and have decided if something were to happen in this neighborhood, to his property or family, there will be lead in the air. It stops here and now.
Bring 'em on.
Richard Baker| 6.11.10 @ 7:30AM
These communists seem to think that the destruction of the system that allows us such affluence as a matter of course will not affect them, personally. Mindlessness masquerading as...mindlessness. What a bunch of morons.
pugsley| 6.11.10 @ 12:54PM
RB-they truely believe they will be at the top of the heap to control everyone else. In the deepest recesses of their little rat brains they truely believe they are owed this chance to remake the country to their own specs. Trouble is, they are in power and they are getting stronger without so much as a raised voice from the repubs. Can this mean that maybe the whole bunch in DC is in on this monstrosity? Sure seems odd that one small group can threaten the lively hood of a whole country and not one person speaks up for the general population in the whole of Washington DC, odd no? Will we just sit quietly by and let these rats finish the job they started 100 years ago or will someone step forward and raise a voice to what the majority of the people in this country are saying? If we do not get redress in November I believe we will start to see E. Cartmans idea take hold.
betty boop| 6.13.10 @ 8:11AM
Pugsley's right. I believe that Leftists like Purple, and my oldest brother, if they read at all, read things like Solzhenytzin and Ayn Rand as if they were complete fiction and science fiction, not for the reality they represent. They can't imagine that those baddies are themselves. But experience has shown that Communism is indeed abusive, and does not work. How many ways do some people need to have things explained to them?
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 6.11.10 @ 8:24AM
This is precisely the type of thinking which created our first crisis and was hatched under Carter and saw fruition under Clinton. Ten years later the financial system swallowed too much liberalism and crashed.
Unfortunately we have far too many people who benefit from capitalism through the conduit of liberal social policies. Too few understand the relationship between the creation of wealth and their ability to get a pound of government cheese.
I predict that if there is any revolution, the Tea Party appears to be leading it, and not in the direction of more entitlements.
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 2:19PM
"Ten years later the financial system swallowed too much liberalism and crashed. " - Are you nuts? Laissez-faire is a conservative principle ... you know what that is, right? That is all Dubya understood and look what he gave us? The financial mess you speak of is his legacy to the country, not to mention the Gulf of Oil. You may not like Obama's reaction to it, but it is Bush's li'l baby all his own.
Osamas Pajamas| 6.11.10 @ 3:46PM
These crooks don't seek "justice" --- they seek "mandatory charity" --- the opposite of "justice." Thrown back into the gutters where they belong and denied the chance to live by legalized theft [socialism or other brands of statism], they'd resort to robbing liquor stores and bashing Grannie for her purse. So we need to arm the cashiers and store keepers and Grannies of America --- and we need to arm the privately-employed taxpayers and owners of private property against these thugs and against their favorite tool --- and that tool is "every level of American government." These statists are a cancer which we libertarians hope to "kill."
Oldefarte| 6.11.10 @ 4:50PM
Purplemoron, The 'mess' was created by the 1977 CRA, Lyndon Johnson's Great Society, Barney Frank's/Chris Dodd's Fannie and Freddie,etc; not by Bush!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CommonSense| 6.20.10 @ 1:56AM
Actually government primarily caused the financial crisis. Under both parties the system of insuring private debt (mortgages) against default was maintained. Ever since I began studying our financial system it has never ceased to amaze me how ludicrous this concept is and why it was allowed to go on as long as it has. Why should the tax payer guarantee any private loan for a home?
The reason I mention this is for it to be in the context of the discussion of socialism and the adverse effects of government. It also astounds me that I have never heard what I am about to say anywhere else in any analysis piece I have yet read.... Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have received more government bailout funds than all other bailouts COMBINED. In total they have received ONE TRILLION DOLLARS!
This is what happens when the government attempts to consolidate their power into entities such as these. They cherish them due to their ability to use them as tools to further their agendas and impose their social ideas on society.
There was once a time where Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were useful to society. When small banks that had lent all of there reserves needed to sell their loans they had made to investors so they could replenish their capital and continue to make loans in their communities. With modern technologies and global investment a mere click away these institutions no longer have any real purpose and should have been folded long ago.
If anyone truly believes in socialism, please look at what happened in this situation. Truly study it and you will see just what kind of havoc irresponsible politicians and governments can wreak.
*I'm no expert on any of this stuff. What I've said I've gathered from various reading I've done. If I'm off on any concept significantly please let me know, but I believe I have the general idea correct.
Average Infidel| 6.11.10 @ 8:32AM
These people have smoked waaaaaaay to much crack as youngsters, now the pipedream is all they think or crave. Like most crack-heads with an addiction, in this case power over others, they don't seem to have the answer to their problem, and that is they now have the power but cannot get thier crack-head addictions under any resemblence to normalies the rest of the good folks of this country strive for on a daily basis, say like, work, pay their taxes, submit to helping others with their time, money, or hearts. I guess they have never heard "what's good for the goose is good for the gander." or " do unto others as you would have them do unto you." I would be very careful if I were one with this problem, most of the good folks I know in my community don't cotton-up to theives, liars and lowlife mentalities.
Bilwick| 6.11.10 @ 8:36AM
I'm waiting for S. L. Toddard to show up here complaining about mentioning Saul Alinsky--even when discussing Alinskyites.
coal carrier| 6.11.10 @ 9:19AM
Capitalism has failed. This will be the mantra in November and especially in 2012. The economic crisis is not the failure of capitalism but rather the blood sucking progressive programs perpetrated on it for the past 60 years. We are on the verge of economic collapse and the communists here in America know it. They smell blood.
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 2:21PM
Capitalism didn't fail, it never does. But - just as FDR saved capitalism, so is Obama. You may not agree with their methods, but the pull for socialism and being taken care of is quite strong. To counter that pull, they have both instituted policies that make sense to the average person, but maintain capitalism as the driving economic force in this country. Anything else is just spin.
Anthony| 6.11.10 @ 3:04PM
I usually ignore this moron's cants, but I just want Purpleguy to know that when this Alinsky troll, Ms. Booth, and her comrades finally declare civil war, we'll be there, itching for some action. And it won't be with "votes" either pal.
And you Purpleguy, had best be hiding in Saddam's spider hole when the action starts.
P.S. While in hiding, bring those books on how FDR "saved of capitalism". Catch up on most of FDR's unconstitutional legislation, struck down by a sane Supreme Court.
Read how FDR employed his unique brand of Laissez-faire capitalism, by interring over 150,0000 Japanese-Americans, without due process, or compensation for their seized property. Finally, read how, after 8+ years of the great FDR, unemployment was 17.5% on day the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor.
But stay in your hole until the action stops. We'll show you mercy, I swear, on Obama's birth certificate.
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 3:13PM
Oh, don't you worry, I will be there, and so will a .50 cal Desert Eagle with mercury filled hollow pts, as will maybe a Barrett .50 cal mounted on a turret on the roof, along with a Mossberg Shotgun, an AR-15 semi-auto, and a crap load of ammo ... Bring 'er on, Chuckles. We ain't all the pansies you think we are...
BTW - how do you like your activist Roberts Supreme Court now... I think it's great, because all you weak sisters won't be able to say a thing about originalist or strict constructionist justices after this bunch gets done with their activism. With 6 1/2 more years of Obama, he will be able to appoint 2 or 3 more. We just need 1 conservative justice to die and the ballgame goes the other way, don't it?
Anthony| 6.11.10 @ 4:29PM
Oooooh, sound like a date!! Bring it on, you big gun toten, lefty, hunk of a man!!! We'll see if you're a pansy or not.
P.S. I didn't know you lefty pansies read Guns & Ammo; naughty, naughty, what will your fellow pansies over at Code Pink think?
Or do you fancy yourself as another upper middle bourgeoisie revolutionary, a la Bill Ayers?
Eric Cartman| 6.11.10 @ 4:49PM
Now, Anthony, why don't you believe that PurpleSchmuck has a .50 cal mounted on the roof of his Yugo? It could happen! I bet he has a Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-23 twin-barreled 23 mm automatic cannon (Soviet) mounted on his flower decal Smart Car! He's a mean liberal with his undies in a knot about his small wee wee: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/a.....1tsa1.html
Tim*| 6.11.10 @ 5:00PM
Uh Oh ! Purplepuss is bringin' it , with his Hollywood DE Pistol Aaaaaaand his hollow-points .
That's O.K. !
We got 40mm granade launchers !
Aaaand , Purplepuss turns into a Pink Mist !
Troll Watch| 6.12.10 @ 12:22PM
There is no subject for which purpleguy won't illustrate that he is stupid. I love it when progressives try to talk guns. We can't even get one troll of average intelligence.
Osamas Pajamas| 6.11.10 @ 3:46PM
These crooks don't seek "justice" --- they seek "mandatory charity" --- the opposite of "justice." Thrown back into the gutters where they belong and denied the chance to live by legalized theft [socialism or other brands of statism], they'd resort to robbing liquor stores and bashing Grannie for her purse. So we need to arm the cashiers and store keepers and Grannies of America --- and we need to arm the privately-employed taxpayers and owners of private property against these thugs and against their favorite tool --- and that tool is "every level of American government." These statists are a cancer which we libertarians hope to "kill."
Oldefarte| 6.11.10 @ 4:54PM
Yea, your socialist Democrats [ie Roosevelt] almost destroyed this country. If not for the indigent, uneducated, cradle-to-grave-demanding-welfare-from-government [and therefore from hardworking taxpayers/government supporters paying same], this country would not be in the 'mess' that it is now!!!!!!
betty boop| 6.13.10 @ 8:16AM
Hahahhaahaha..... I just can't take it any more... your pronouncements get worse and worse! OUCH, I stubbed my toe.... must have been that damned George Bush! What a dolt!
Doctor Right| 6.11.10 @ 9:28AM
Oh, really, SEIU?
Well I look forward to a future where a President with real cajones will launch a serious investigation into union corruption in this country that leads to prosecution and jail-time for union bosses and their political frontmen (and women).
I look forward to a future where the minimum wage is abolished, and union members are forced to compete on the open market of job skills for their pay.
It's a dream...But it's mine...And I'm sticking with it.
victor| 6.11.10 @ 1:57PM
Doctor Right:
"Well I look forward to a future where a President with real cajones will launch a serious investigation into union corruption in this country that leads to prosecution and jail-time for union bosses".
We had president such as those in the past and even a democrat who knew what to do with unions who went on strike against the Public Good.
They knew what to do with uppity unions and union leaders, that is, they stopped them, settled the strikes and even put the union bosses in jail when they needed to be.
Yes, Doctor, a future most devoutly to be wished for.
G.S. Patton| 6.11.10 @ 10:06AM
"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -- Thomas Jefferson
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 2:22PM
So shut down the Apostle Glenn Beck and the Messiah Rush.
Rightguy| 6.11.10 @ 3:41PM
Why shut them down? If you don't like them tune in Air America instead. More speech is good.
Osamas Pajamas| 6.11.10 @ 3:48PM
These crooks don't seek "justice" --- they seek "mandatory charity" --- the opposite of "justice." Thrown back into the gutters where they belong and denied the chance to live by legalized theft [socialism or other brands of statism], they'd resort to robbing liquor stores and bashing Grannie for her purse. So we need to arm the cashiers and store keepers and Grannies of America --- and we need to arm the privately-employed taxpayers and owners of private property against these thugs and against their favorite tool --- and that tool is "every level of American government." These statists are a cancer which we libertarians hope to "kill."
Oldefarte| 6.11.10 @ 4:58PM
Oh for the blessed Huntley/Brinkley, Murrah, Walter Krankase, Momma's boy Olbermann, pants-down-the-leg Matthews, moronic Ed, etc; where would we be, right???????????
G.S. Patton| 6.12.10 @ 7:58AM
"So shut down ........ " ??
Spoken like a true Bolshevik ....... go back to your
parent's basement and your bong.
Richard| 6.11.10 @ 12:00PM
God, I am sick of Leftists. Leftism has brough nothing but misery, death, corruption, and failure since the French Revolution. But still the deranged leftists are pushing it with all of their arrogant, self-righteous, delusional certainity. Leftism is a religion to these fools and they are, as Eric Hoffer defined them, "true believers".
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 2:26PM
Care to explain that remarkable opinion? Sharron Angle believes that fluoride in the water is a Communist Plot, and Rand Paul wants to abolish the Civil Rights Act, and most of the Republican nominees for President in 2008 don't believe in Evolution - and the lefties are deranged? Good luck with that... hehe
Tim*| 6.11.10 @ 2:53PM
Rand Paul :
“Let me be clear: I support the Civil Rights Act because I overwhelmingly agree with the intent of the legislation, which was to stop discrimination in the public sphere and halt the abhorrent practice of segregation and Jim Crow laws.
“As I have said in previous statements, sections of the Civil Rights Act were debated on Constitutional grounds when the legislation was passed. Those issues have been settled by federal courts in the intervening years . "
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 3:06PM
Then why did he even make an issue of it? These statements were made after he realized he had to walk back his answer that he wouldn't have voted for the Civil Rights Act as is ... "If I had been there, there would have had to be some modifications" .. Really? Settled law and he says that? He's a buffoon and has fallen from 25% ahead to a mere 3% in KY. :-)
Tim*| 6.11.10 @ 3:35PM
Duuuuhhhhh ! The Constitution , Mr.Federalist .
Rand Paul:
"Well what it gets into then is if you decide that restaurants are publicly owned and not privately owned, then do you say that you should have the right to bring your gun into a restaurant even though the owner of the restaurant says 'well no, we don't want to have guns in here' the bar says 'we don't want to have guns in here because people might drink and start fighting and shoot each-other.' Does the owner of the restaurant own his restaurant? Or does the government own his restaurant? These are important philosophical debates but not a very practical discussion... "
Osamas Pajamas| 6.11.10 @ 3:48PM
These crooks don't seek "justice" --- they seek "mandatory charity" --- the opposite of "justice." Thrown back into the gutters where they belong and denied the chance to live by legalized theft [socialism or other brands of statism], they'd resort to robbing liquor stores and bashing Grannie for her purse. So we need to arm the cashiers and store keepers and Grannies of America --- and we need to arm the privately-employed taxpayers and owners of private property against these thugs and against their favorite tool --- and that tool is "every level of American government." These statists are a cancer which we libertarians hope to "kill."
Oldefarte| 6.11.10 @ 5:01PM
Not to worry, we have WEALTH REDISTRIBUTING, JEREMIAH WRIGHT ADORING, ALINSKY BELIEVING Obama to take care of us, right?.............AT LEAST UNTIL NOVEMBER OF 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anthony| 6.11.10 @ 12:03PM
Well, it's no longer a question of if, it's now a question of when.
The Left has taken the mask and gloves off, and they are now front and center with their true agenda. The wordplay and deceptions are gone, they are "all in".
It's ironic that they now use terms such as "Showdown with America" and if you "build a platform for revolution, they will come".
As is usually the case with the Left, as history has demonstrated, their unintended consequences always come back to bite them in the ass.
If the Left wants a showdown and revolution, bring it on; it's time we settled this matter once and for all, as to which America will exist going forward. Winner takes all.
Doctor Right| 6.11.10 @ 12:41PM
I'm with ya!
And so is most of the Armed Forces.
All the Libs have are the "New Black Panthers".
Once we win, where can we deposit the Libs? Far-north Canada? The Gobi desert? Antarctica?
(Come to think of it, who would want them?)
pugsley | 6.11.10 @ 1:07PM
Doc-look no further than straight down, as in six feet under, a perfect place to (make a deposit of this kind).
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 2:27PM
And y'all call the lefties deranged? Your Founders would be so ashamed of your lack of tolerance.
Tim*| 6.11.10 @ 3:01PM
Purplepuss says ,
" Your Founders would be so ashamed of your lack of tolerance. "
Apparently , Purplepuss doesn't have Our Founders.
Got it.
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 3:03PM
Ooooh, you got me, Mr. Wordsmith ... that's all you got? OUR Founders would be so ashamed of you... ever read the Federalist Papers ? I bet not...
Tim*| 6.11.10 @ 3:24PM
Yeah ! And Jefferson's writings and personal letters , etc.
Aaaand you point was ........ ?
Anthony| 6.11.10 @ 3:26PM
Actually moron, "Our Founders" would be standing shoulder to shoulder with us. You see, they dealt with their own oppressive regime. They dealt with forces that were anithetical to the concepts of individual freedom, limited government, and freedom from oppressive bureaucrats.
So, when we line you up before the firing squad, I'll be the guy with "Socialism sucks" button, and my Glock 9 mm. I keep the button, you get the other end of the 9mm. Sounds fair, no?
Osamas Pajamas| 6.11.10 @ 3:49PM
These crooks don't seek "justice" --- they seek "mandatory charity" --- the opposite of "justice." Thrown back into the gutters where they belong and denied the chance to live by legalized theft [socialism or other brands of statism], they'd resort to robbing liquor stores and bashing Grannie for her purse. So we need to arm the cashiers and store keepers and Grannies of America --- and we need to arm the privately-employed taxpayers and owners of private property against these thugs and against their favorite tool --- and that tool is "every level of American government." These statists are a cancer which we libertarians hope to "kill."
Oldefarte| 6.11.10 @ 5:03PM
You're allowed to wear your pants at butt level, listen to Rap, get your's governmental benefits, aren't you [all at taxpayer-funded expense] ????????????????????
Petronius| 6.11.10 @ 6:33PM
Dr. R
I will accept a tax increase to load C130's with all the lefties in No. America to take them on a 1 way trip to Zimbabwe where they will live happily ever after.
Ret. Marine| 6.11.10 @ 8:19PM
Got your six Doc, me and my sons, ( all in the Corps) will be a force to be recconed with no doubt. What they are really talking about it their target rich enviroment directed at them and them only. 32+million veterans are going to have us some fun with these pusses. I say let's just get it on and see who is standing in the end.
kevin barry| 6.11.10 @ 12:07PM
All leftists are the same. They desire power. They believe they know more than anyone else. They are dictatorial in philosophy and action.
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 2:30PM
They don't desire power any more than you do.... well, they do know more than most, that's true - or you wouldn't fall for the vitriol of the Rush, Beck, Hannity's of the news media (they just want you all ginned up to keep their ratings and cash machine going) .. and like the good sheep you are, you oblige.
The left have more in common with Libertarians than you think ... i know, i know, that exploded your head, but if you research it, you will understand.
Rightguy| 6.11.10 @ 3:45PM
Maybe you don't like Rush, Beck and Hannity because think they are newscasters? They're opinion guys and make no bones about what they're politics are.
Osamas Pajamas| 6.11.10 @ 3:49PM
These crooks don't seek "justice" --- they seek "mandatory charity" --- the opposite of "justice." Thrown back into the gutters where they belong and denied the chance to live by legalized theft [socialism or other brands of statism], they'd resort to robbing liquor stores and bashing Grannie for her purse. So we need to arm the cashiers and store keepers and Grannies of America --- and we need to arm the privately-employed taxpayers and owners of private property against these thugs and against their favorite tool --- and that tool is "every level of American government." These statists are a cancer which we libertarians hope to "kill."
Oldefarte| 6.11.10 @ 5:05PM
No we all watch/listen to Ed Reed, Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews,etc to GET'S OUR POLITICAL PHILOSOPHIES DICTATED TO US SO'S WE'S KNOWS HOW TO GETS OUR FEDERALS BENEFITS!!!!!!!!!
betty boop| 6.13.10 @ 8:25AM
OMG. Where did you learn all this tripe? Try reading Adam Smith. "Our" Founding Fathers did. They gained much valuable insight from him. You might too, if you weren't so blinded by teenaged rage... and that applies, even if you are over 50. Adolescent authority rage seems to be all that drives this whole administration.
Ray| 6.11.10 @ 2:08PM
"People are questioning capitalism. People are asking, Will this economy ever work for me or will it work for my kids."
That's an easy question to answer; Without capitalism, and the employment opportunities it naturally offers, you and your kids won't work. You'll be standing in the food allocation lines, waiting for your government approved food rations, just as has happened in every society that rejects Capitalism and replaces it with a centrally controlled economy.
Never mind the fact that innovations and inventions, and the useful, and even life saving products, that Capitalism produces, will always be someone else's, innovations, someone else's, inventions, someone else's life saving equipment, things that you, thanks to centrally controlled economies, will never see, never get to use. They will always be available to those who live in a Capitalist society, but you, thanks to your socialist society, will never have access to them. Only your government leaders, those all-important controllers of society, will have access to them. As happens in every centrally controlled, i.e. socialist, society.
Does that answer your question?
tonypal| 6.11.10 @ 2:33PM
I have been arguing with my fellow conservatives for the past year plus over Obama and the idea that he doesn't have a clue what he's doing with such things as the economy. My contention is exactly the opposite, that he knows precisely what he's doing. I think Vadum's column should put the argument to bed.
Obama is of course a trained Alinskyite, one of the people who absolutely mastered all of the Alinsky tactics. In fact, by virtue of his current position, it's clear he is the supreme master of all things Alinsky.
Everything Obama does is designed to bring about revolution. It is simply impossible to believe he and his closest advisors are this dumb. They're not. They know very well that if there is enough chaos and misery, the conditions will be in place for radical transformation. The end game is near.
Having said that, I believe the end is near for these clowns. They are a small minority of the population, which is the true reason why they need to "agitate" and cause trouble. Rules for Radicals was written at a time before the current incarnation of the information age. Radicals no longer operate undercover, ready to explode with their nonsense. We know it's coming before it happens. The left has exposed itself and the American people are onto them. I feel good about the future, in spite of the present.
scotchieguy| 6.11.10 @ 3:41PM
Tony, my sentiments exactly. Everything is being done to perfection. They are right on script. Chaos, my friend, chaos. This they are masters at--continuously choking the economy, reckless spending on absurd and unknowable stimulus and health care bills, allowing the debt to skyrocket beyond comprehension, appeasing the world's bullies, sticking the middle finger to America and all she stands for, practically laughing at the oil spill, for they know this is their ticket to cap and trade. Could one have come up w/ a better plan? So sneaky, and yet so transparent.
I also agree that they are slowly being exposed. They are getting sloppy, cocky...and they know their days are numbered. This is when they become dangerous.
betty boop| 6.13.10 @ 8:28AM
Chaos is exactly the word that comes to mind, and you have expressed my opinion exactly. They are right on target, I think. I truly expect to meet you all in the gulag... except perhaps Purple dude.
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 2:34PM
A Government partnership with capitalism seems to the be the best system ever invented. Unbridled capitalism is "buyer beware" always. The free market doesn't care about safety or national security, only the almighty dollar. But with a little government regulation to keep the industries a little bit constrained for safety and security's sake, you have the best man can invent.
Ray| 6.11.10 @ 2:50PM
You have it completely backwards! Show me in a socialist society were people have the ability to strike, to negotiate, to demand a better work place, a better home, a better environment, a better way of life? Show me in a socialist society were the people have the ability to redress their grievances with government, to petition for change, to elect better leaders, to FORCE the government to change disastrous policies and actions? Show me how a socialist society actually is an improvement over capitalism!
You see, in a capitalist society, the buyers, the citizens themselves, make the final decision of what products they are willing to buy, what business practices they'll support, and what impact the manufactures have on our society. If there isn't an acceptable product, process, or business policy, they, themselves can CREATE them and offer their products and services to those who desire them, while reject those that do not suit them. They have the ability to change things THEMSELVES without waiting for someone else to do it for them.
In a socialist society, none of that is possible. All decisions, whether economic, social, or environmental, are made by a very small group of very powerful people, much like your phantom "economic overloads" that you constantly bemoan.
Instead of ridding us of those "overlords," as you claim, socialism will CREATE them. They will have absolute power of you, I, and everyone else, with no way to escape! Is that really what you want?
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 3:00PM
"They will have absolute power of you, I, and everyone else, with no way to escape! Is that really what you want?" - you're already on the road, sir, it's called Corporatism. Read the new book Cornered about our Monopolistic society and see who's got you by the short hairs.
I said nothing about Socialism, so why are you so obsessed with it?
Diogenes | 6.11.10 @ 2:55PM
Sorry. Took a bit of time to figure it ou. But, better late than never. PURPLEGUY DOESN'T HAVE A LIFE. By the power invested in my by reason of actually having a life (and a brain) I decree that from now on Purpleguy is to be IGNORED. He wouldn't just go away so now he must be "disappeared".
Purpleguy| 6.11.10 @ 3:02PM
Luckily, this is America and you're fascist commie pig approach to ridding yourself of all who you don't command doesn't work here. Go back to your Commie Russian Taskmasters !
In this country, all opinions are welcome and encouraged... but not being a true American, you didn't know that did you?
Osamas Pajamas| 6.11.10 @ 3:52PM
These crooks don't seek "justice" --- they seek "mandatory charity" --- the opposite of "justice." Thrown back into the gutters where they belong and denied the chance to live by legalized theft [socialism or other brands of statism], they'd resort to robbing liquor stores and bashing Grannie for her purse. So we need to arm the cashiers and store keepers and Grannies of America --- and we need to arm the privately-employed taxpayers and owners of private property against these thugs and against their favorite tool --- and that tool is "every level of American government." These statists are a cancer which we libertarians hope to "kill."
G.S. Patton| 6.12.10 @ 8:36AM
Mr. Purpleman .....
you just stated; "In this country, all opinions are welcome and encouraged..."
But in an earlier post, you advocated "Shut down" of commentators you don't like......... your words.
You can't have it both ways, my friend.
scotchieguy| 6.11.10 @ 3:47PM
Purpleguy, you have finally, finally made sense...it only took about ten tries. No one wants unbridled capitalsim. No one wants to eat spoiled meat, have rivers choked off through massive pollution caused by corps., etc. Obviously, we need a certain amount of oversight. The problem is, gov't oversight has gotten out of control and is just killing industry. What we need is balance. Your intentions are fine, but you really need to read Atlas Shrugged. It is only about as many pages as the stimulus bill...you should be able to read it in a night or two.
Osamas Pajamas| 6.11.10 @ 3:52PM
A "government partnership with business" as you call it elsewhere has been used to define "fascism" and "Nazism" ---- but no worries, it would not surprise me to find that you have some allegiance to those brands of statism --- or any othe brand of statism, for that matter.
Oldefarte| 6.11.10 @ 5:08PM
Yea, like the Post Office, the governmental regulators of the oil companies that accepted bribes/payoffs, the SEC regulators that watched more porn on their government supplied computers than pay attention to their job requirements, right??????????
Momma Purple Guy| 6.11.10 @ 3:07PM
Please give Sonny the attention , he so desperately needs & craves.
His father and I will pay you ,to keep him typing away , down in our basement ,on our computer and out of our hair.
Thank you , kind Conservative People.
Signed Momma Purpleguy ( You may call me Gertrude )
Pat| 6.11.10 @ 3:38PM
Every few decades, we Americans are condemned to rationalize capitalism or what passes for capitalism in this country. On the one side, greedy capitalists like Bill Gates or Warren Buffet give away billions from their personal wealth to worthy causes with an efficiency and incorruptible integrity government agencies can only dream about. On the other side, the social theorists give away free advice on the evils of capitalism. The only acceptable remedy is for the Bill Gates or Warren Buffets of the world to submit to the social theorists who will direct their wealth to appropriate recipients, retaining only a modest commission for themselves of course.
In 1937/38, FDR complained the nation's bankers were out to get him - we had suffered a recession starting in 1937 which cast doubt on the economic miracle called the "New Deal". Roosevelt's supporters invented the myth of America's 60 Wealthy Families, complete with names, who supposedly controlled the United States and who were deliberately and secretly underminging his administration's efforts to bring prosperity to the common man.
70 years have passed and we're now witnessing the end result of the New Deal, or at least its guiding principles suffering from a terminal illness. FDR's great programs to save capitalism from itself such as Social Security and the SEC have reached the end of their useful lives - but the social theorists have plenty of venture capital to create replacement programs - the "New, New Deal" perhaps? But, not to worry about the future of capitalism, parasites are always cautious where there is a danger of killing the host.
Osamas Pajamas| 6.11.10 @ 3:54PM
These crooks don't seek "justice" --- they seek "mandatory charity" --- the opposite of "justice." Thrown back into the gutters where they belong and denied the chance to live by legalized theft [socialism or other brands of statism], they'd resort to robbing liquor stores and bashing Grannie for her purse. So we need to arm the cashiers and store keepers and Grannies of America --- and we need to arm the privately-employed taxpayers and owners of private property against these thugs and against their favorite tool --- and that tool is "every level of American government." These statists are a cancer which we libertarians hope to "kill."
Mojo Risin| 6.11.10 @ 4:25PM
The leftist, Marxists can only advance through someone else's hard work. They don't created a thing of value, but resentment fills their cart.
A tragic mistake was made when Obama was elected, he conned the voter by not appearing threatening with his pleasant smile, no stress demeanor. With that said he's a charlatan of monumental scale with his plans of domination maybe slipping away come November. Yeah, come the next election he will be a lame duck and it puzzles me as to why his legislative agenda is getting any play at all. What he's going to be known for is the president who had his entire agenda reversed at 1st opportunity, quite the legacy.
Maybe when this is all over Obama and minions can go home and occupy their inner-city crack house, pace the front porch and mumble incoherently at passing cars, quite the legacy...
Howard Ino| 6.12.10 @ 4:20PM
IF America survives the Marxist assault on our kids and Constitution, Mr. Obama, his staff and this Congress will be written as not only the worst in US history, but also the most dangerous to our very Republic!
IF!
Richard Baker| 6.11.10 @ 5:00PM
Purplepuke:
Then let's get to the nut-cuttin'. Sounds like you've got all the firearms buzzwords down pat. You may be an Army of One considering most of your confrere are physical cowards. See you on the barricades, pal.
davelnaf| 6.11.10 @ 10:24PM
It would be nice if these people really knew what they were talking about. But, as with every leftist adventure into righting the wrongs of the world, they cause far more misery than if they had never been born. And, deep down, making the world a more miserable place than it would be if they had never been born is probably what gives their lives meaning.
Marc Jeric| 6.12.10 @ 1:00AM
Communism is now some 150 years old; wherever it was tried, it produced millions murdered, utter poverty, terror, amd mental misery. How pathetic that so many "intellectuals" think that communism is the future.
Howard Ino| 6.12.10 @ 4:13PM
AMEN!!!
Margie| 6.12.10 @ 10:49AM
And those who vote Democrat, or don't vote at all, give us the government THEY think we deserve.
MotherRedDog| 6.12.10 @ 12:51PM
OMG. I just had the best laugh of my life reading Purpleguy and his very immature, ignorant rant. He's so obvious. When you provided him with rational and proven history, you only heard the cheerping of crickets. It must have pained him to wait for a comment that he thought he might be able to throw out a brilliant progressive talking point. How sad that they don't teach history and there are still those who refuse to read. Purpleguy is what we have to contend with and I don't know if that's funny or just flat out annoying.
Howard Ino| 6.12.10 @ 4:10PM
"If you build a platform for revolution, they will come, Goehl said."...
YES Mr. Goeh...
WE WILL COME IN MASS.....
WITH PITCHFORKS AND BASEBALL BATS!
Gdamn Baaassssttttaaaadddssss!
uncle curmudgeon| 6.13.10 @ 11:30AM
Wow! Great stuff here. Sorry I've been so late to the party, PG, but I've had quite a week, what with impregnating the bare-foot female kitchen help and beating up homosexuals, to say nothing of the meetings with my fellow hegmons to plot a more socially unjust future for the down-troden. But I'm Baaaaack; and on reflection it seems so sad to me that one of the great political parties in America can only cling to power (unfotunately, its only rational for existence) by selling your kind of nonsense to any ninny who's still dumb enough to believe. It makes the rest of us feel like the normal people in a zombie flic; ugly creepy THINGS keep following us, sticking their smelly hand in through any crack in the house to get what they want. What a mess! well, PG, see you around. Gotta go iron my Klan robe, now.
Vote the bums out, y'all (AND KEEP YER POWDER DRY)!
Northern Rebel| 6.13.10 @ 4:03PM
The destuction of the democrat party began with "progressive's" like Teddy Roosevelt, and the evil Woodrow Wilson, men who believed the Constitution was something akin to putty in their self rightous hands.
I have long believed Mt. Rushmore should have the "roughrider's" (sounds like a condom to me) image sandbasted off it's face and replaced with Ronald Reagan's.
Margie:
You are so spot on!
RCV| 6.13.10 @ 5:57PM
Here's a newsflash for you, bright boy. Teddy Roosevelt was a Republican, not a Democrat.
Tedh754| 6.13.10 @ 4:29PM
I can imagine after Purpleguy has his revolution, anyone not following the party line will end up in re-education camps, because that is what always happens.
RCV| 6.13.10 @ 5:58PM
I'm not sure "re-education" is the appropriate term to use with most of the commentators on this site.
ticotiger| 6.13.10 @ 7:30PM
Hey purple people eater , do you have a problem with Oprah making $ 260 million in one year sitting on her big fat ars . Obama made 5.5million last year , his salary is 400 thousand as our new dictator . If his books were to sell a billion copies , which would tranlate into mucho dinaro , would you have a problem with that . When the commies in hollywood spend 100 million on a movie and get a return of a billion dollars , do you have a problem with any of these . Did you find it wrong when the Clinton's cme to the White House pretty much middle class and left 8 years later millionaires with two multi million dollar homes , and that Bill made $115 million since leaving , just by running his mouth ? Me think's you have selective privilage when it comes to making money . I can speculate this early , the Obama's will leave the white house , much more wealthy than when they arrived , that is if we can get them out .
ticotiger| 6.13.10 @ 7:37PM
Probably mispelled Oprah .
ticotiger| 6.13.10 @ 7:57PM
Mispelled more than the " O " , do apologize , old man desease .
Northern Rebel | 6.14.10 @ 7:57AM
RCV:
In name only pal. He would have rather been called a progressive, but when he tried that, he couldn't get re-elected.
Go shine your IQ trophy, moron.
RCV| 6.14.10 @ 1:42PM
Thanks for speaking for TR. Your insights are always so welcome. Roosevelt was proud to be a progressive because back then the Republican party was ... progressive! Lincoln and Grant advanced our democracy and extended citizenship rights to millions of Americans. Roosevelt busted the oligopolistic trusts, enacted health and safety laws, and established our national parks. It wasn't until Harding and his fellow crooks came in that the Republican party became the handmaiden of corporate thievery.
And by the way, if you'd stop childish name-calling, people might take you more seriously.
Todd | 6.15.10 @ 12:26PM
Isn't it amazing that all this social justice stuff has so much of the opposite effect. Cuba and N. Korea are now Monarchies along with Serfdom by another name. No one really even knows how China is run. We need to wake up.
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