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Don’t Put the Cart Before the Elephant
Republicans are likely to leave a lot of opportunities on the table come November.
Everyone from the National Review’s Jim Geraghty to non-partisan Congressional prognosticator Stuart Rothenberg predicts big gains for the GOP at the federal level this fall. In fact, Real Clear Politics’ Sean Trende says he “wouldn’t be shocked to see Democratic losses eclipse 100 seats” in the House.
While the opportunity exists for the GOP to make large gains — yes, gains greater than 1994, in fact more akin to 1894 (when the GOP picked up 130 seats in the House) — Republicans are likely to leave a lot of opportunities on the table come November, for several reasons:
The dismal poll numbers of both parties highlights the gap between this opportunity for electoral success and the reality on the ground. Yes, according to Gallup, public approval of the Democratic Party is hovering near an all-time low, and President Obama’s job approval rating has dropped below 50 percent. All of this should be considered good news for Republicans. Yet, voters haven’t exactly fallen in love with the GOP brand, either. Although Republicans may be leading on the latest generic ballot for Congress, public approval of the GOP is seven points lower than the Democratic Party. The low public opinion of both parties is reflected in the number of voters who call themselves independents — voters who don’t identify strongly with either party is reaching record levels.
With both parties struggling to make inroads with voters, weak candidates who expect to ride the coattails of the party brand are in for a rough slide. Unfortunately for the GOP, the dissatisfied independents of 2010 care little about which party controls Congress, so the typical game plan of running against the party in power is unlikely to be effective. These voters will not hold their nose and vote for weaker candidates just for the sake of “change.” Although candidates who present themselves as shock jocks in pin stripes can grab the early headlines, they need to do more than just peddle this year’s version of “hope” if they want to keep these voters engaged through Election Day. The cynical voter of 2010 is looking for competent candidates who have ideas to back up their message.
Take the situation of Rand Paul in Kentucky. Voters took a chance on the Tea Party-backed eye doctor in the state’s GOP Senate primary. Less than a week later, he proceeded to publicly question the authority of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, then state on Good Morning America that President Obama’s criticism of BP for its handling of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill was “un-American” at a time when most Americans are suspicious of corporate America. Paul needs to realize GOP candidates get no honeymoon period; their opponents and the media are poised to exploit any error or gaffe. Paul’s high-profile missteps only add to the questions over whether he is ready for prime time.
Even when the candidate has ideas and a plan, Republicans also must guard against “Lazy Candidate Syndrome” — the tendency to believe money or demographics or past voting trends predetermine results. “Vote Republican because I’m not the other guy” didn’t work for John McCain in 2008, and it won’t work for unprepared, undisciplined candidates in 2010. For all the changes that have come to politics and campaigning in recent years, pressing the flesh and appearing at festivals, ball games, and community events remain the most effective ways to build support. Retail politicking can make winners of underdogs and ensure frontrunners don’t get caught from behind.
Ask Virgil Goode about the power of retail politics. In 2008, the Republican six-term Congressional incumbent, Goode seemed safe even in a bad year for the GOP and with President Obama at the top of the ticket. But his opponent, Democrat Tom Perriello, didn’t accept the conventional wisdom. He raised enough money and connected with enough voters to pull off one of the biggest upsets of 2008. Goode underestimated his opponent, and it showed. The 2010 candidate can take nothing for granted.
The final wild cards in the 2010 contest for control of Congress are the third party (or no-party) candidates. The Rubio-Meeks-Crist three way contest is an extreme example of this dynamic, where the third-party candidate (Crist) could win in the general election. More typical is the situation that is likely to occur this year in Virginia’s 5th congressional district, where the passions that have animated multiple insurgent candidates could continue past the primary season and become independent bids in the general election. The self-funded third-party candidate who siphons just 1 or 2 percentage points could save the incumbent Democrats in more than a few House swing districts come Election Day.
Certainly the electoral map remains fluid. As Scott Brown demonstrated, no party or candidate “owns” a seat. Let’s leave the sense of entitlement to Democrats and get out there and work for the votes this fall. If we want change in Congress, WE need to play our A game now, not the blame game come November.
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Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 6.4.10 @ 7:23AM
The BP oil spill is a perfect opportunity for Republicans. Considering the fact that the EPA is legally required to handle an oil spill of this nature, BP should be commended for filling in where the EPA failed. Yet, even Jindal is going off on BP while the real culprit appears to be the EPA. Not only have they failed to respond, it took 14 days before the EPA even posted something about the spill at their web site. And that appeared to be only after Rush Limbaugh noted it on his show. In short, this is a situation where the law required a response from the EPA yet, that's never happened. Read all about it : The National Oil and Hazardous Substances Contingency Plan Act was signed into law in 1994 (superceding previous legislation that went back to the 1969 Torrey Canyon oil spill.) Laws and regulations are collated here. The EPA has an online book describing the National Continency Plan. See for example http://www.epa.gov/oem/docs/oi...../chap7.pdf (change the number to get other chapters.)The EPA manual says: WHEN A MAJOR oil spill occurs in the United States, coordinated teams of local, state, and national personnel are called upon to help contain the spill, clean it up, and ensure that damage to human health and the environment is minimized. Without careful planning and clear organization, efforts to deal with large oil spills could be slow, ineffective, and potentially harmful to response personnel and the environment. In the United States, the system for organizing responses to major oil spills is called the National Response System. http://climateaudit.org/2010/0.....ency-plan/
Alan Brooks| 6.4.10 @ 10:41PM
"then state on Good Morning America that President Obama's criticism of BP for its handling of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill was "un-American"
Or anti-British?
Mimi| 6.5.10 @ 11:48AM
The reason the EPA didn't act right away is they want to destroy every-thing they can get their hands on ie oil drilling??? I don't think they had any idea this would be this big and such a catastrophe... the dawdle was purposful. These Leftist are bordering criminal, harming the nation at every turn. We The People..... are furious and intend stop this destruction!! The dem's will play the MONEY game: (more means we win) We must win with our feet, our will, use our resources wisely,and most of us PATRIOTS must work, work, work hard as never-ever before!!!
Alan Brooks| 6.5.10 @ 9:58PM
Nah, not as apocalyptic;
we'll end up owning BP, and it wont be BP anymore,
it will be AP: American Petroleum.
Christopher Holland| 6.6.10 @ 9:59PM
If criticising British Petroleum in un-American, will criticising American Petroleum be un-British? What does this do to the hope and change paradigm? Or do I simply go to the pub for a drink and forget about it.
martin j smith| 6.4.10 @ 7:41AM
Here is the issue. If there are Republican candidates who run on the RINO line or the " vote for me because I want a good job " line or I'm too stupid to fail line inspite of all that they still have chance to win because its the Democrat Party that in in chanrge and ruin ing this country,. That is the bottom line. Its about the bottom line or as that jerk from Arkansas says: "its the economy stupid".
Chalkdust| 6.4.10 @ 8:17AM
Canidates who are running for national office its:
*Stop the spending.
*Cut spendind.
*Smaller government.
* Secure the borders.
*Repeal Obamacare.
*Don't back down, its still drill baby drill.
Anything less and you're wasting our time.
PolishKnight| 6.8.10 @ 11:51AM
Most of those ideas are good, but they are too abstract to connect with voters or even be effective. For example, secure the borders. How? Build a wall? And what about the illegal immigrants already here? Same thing with smaller government: Does that mean not enforcing immigration laws (the left is really into non-government intervention there!)
The big ticket items that the Republicans continue to ignore are the outright racism by the left to pander for votes and a lack of concern for men, the party's strongest supporters. Palin runs around claiming to be a feminist while seeking to kick out two fathers from her family. Dan Quayle raised the issue of fatherless families, but didn't take it all the way and ask why and what should be done about it other than "strenghtening marriage", whatever that means. Banning gay marriage isn't going to cut it.
Harry the Horrible| 6.4.10 @ 8:21AM
The GOP really, REALLY needs to lower expectations a bit.
The way this is going, if the 'Pubbies pick up "only" 80 seats, it will be seen as a Democrat victory.
Heck, with expectations like this, it might still be a Democrat victory if the GOP picks up "only" 100 seats.
SoCon| 6.4.10 @ 11:51PM
Haha Harry--you're funny.
Jon Alan| 6.5.10 @ 9:18PM
I agree with Harry. and would add; this puffery also enables lazy voters to not get up and go vote . "Oh heck it is a done deal why bother to get off the couch". So let us not be so presumtious the results will be relative to our efforts not our predictions.
JP| 6.4.10 @ 8:45AM
The Blue Dog Democrat poll numbers when looked at from a district by district basis have stabelized since ObamaCare was passed. The Dems saw thier greatest fall in the polls when Obama was pusing for transformative legislation like Cap and Tax and ObamaCare.
It is for this reason that I think the Dems will not try to push Kerry's version of Cap and Tax, or immigration reform through until after November. Some insiders believe that the Dems will try to push one of these laws through using reconcilliation -damn the torpedoes and all of that. But I don't think so. If the Dems play it correctly, and use the GOP's defensive strategy against them, they could still maintain thier majorities, albeit very slim ones.
It is for that reason that conservatives must concentrate on thier own voting districts and states. It does no good for conservative/libertarian to get all worked up over Rand Paul if he is from New York or Texas. This midterm will be determined mainly by the economy, local politics, a disciplined message, and organization. If the GOP candidates think they can glide to victory riding anti-Obama emotion they will be taught a very painful lesson.
Michael L. Hauschild| 6.4.10 @ 9:04AM
What part of democracy don’t you understand? The only place “weaker” or “stronger” candidates exist is in the minds of the partisan pundit and certain apocalyptic demented Texans wearing tin foil hats festooned with Ross Perot bumper stickers. The most endangered political species is the stealth candidate with the hidden agenda. The electorate today is informed, politically astute, and motivated; we do not need “nuances” imparted to us about circumstances or ramifications pertaining to our voting preferences. This is very simple; if your candidate’s portfolio contains something other than the pledges of smaller government, less taxes and more personal freedom you had better be prepared to hear his/her congratulatory speech to the opponent. The only thing I hate worse than a politician lying to me about why he reneged on his campaign promises is a candidate who has conveniently forgotten, or refuses to speak of his/her historical agenda while actively seeking my vote.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.4.10 @ 10:00AM
Michael,
I resemble that remark, heh.
Please help me understand the sentence you wrote here:
""The most endangered political species is the stealth candidate with the hidden agenda. ""
Christopher Holland| 6.6.10 @ 10:03PM
Of course a stealth candidate has a hidden agenda. If you could see it then the candidate would no longer be stealthy. But how can a candidate get elected when the voters can't see him? I never saw a bumper sticker saying 'vote for the invisible man'.
coal carrier| 6.4.10 @ 9:26AM
The way I see it is that the Republicans don’t have a well-known individual whom is not afraid to speak up. Most conservative woman, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Monica Crowley and Laura Ingraham are stronger and more outspoken then any of the so called Republican leaders. If you recall the debate between Jack Kemp and Al Gore, Gore rolled over Kemp. Primarily because Mr. Kemp tried to play nice with Gore instead of confronting him and disassembling his leftist talking points. God help us if they put up another candidate who wants to reach out the progressive socialists.
Dan Hirsch| 6.4.10 @ 9:59PM
HORSE HOCKEY!!!
Sarah Palin.
martin j smith| 6.4.10 @ 9:43AM
Try listening to Chris Christie ( a man by the way ) We need more men and women ( Jan brewer like ) that can do this.
That means speak from the gut and it is the truth.
'THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE'.
George S| 6.4.10 @ 10:18AM
People vote for candidates, not against their opponents. Republicans will not win big by running as the anti-incumbent; people will still need a reason to vote for them. If they ignore the reasons for the Tea Party being in existence or the lessons from the Scott Brown and Chris Christie races, then it's a toss up.
By the way, Republicans really have not won anything yet being the anti-Obama. Since Obama took office, there have been seven special elections (6 House, 1 Senate) and Republicans took two... that's only a .285 batting average. Point to polls all day long today; it's the vote count in November that counts.
canuckistani| 6.4.10 @ 11:46AM
Agreed, and with that SC douchebags "raghead" comment about Nikki and Obama, the Dems have so much red-blood material to throw at the electorate this fall, the numbers for the GOP may be even lower. Reid is now leading, and Cali is getting back to Boxer country.
Careful what you wish for, and vetting is not a four letter word.
Bydand76| 6.4.10 @ 7:04PM
Oh BS!
The last polls I saw in Cali had Boxer in a virtual tie, admittedly close but still a tie none the less..
I think Campbell was up in one poll and in the other Boxer was up. Not running away with it.
12% of the electorate is still undecided in CA.
You blowing smoke up yer own anus if you think for one moment Reid is safe. But whatever, tell yourself that all you want.
Here are the #'s though
http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....ada_senate
As far as the SC incident. Well, there really is no substitute for intelligence now is there.
Do some research dude!
Pro Libertate!
SoCon| 6.4.10 @ 11:47PM
Fiorina was beating Campbell by double digits last time I checked. Campbell's a real skunk and Devore's the best Conservative--but I think Carly will win the nomination and beat Barbie in November.
Boxer's VERY unpopular--dumb as a box of rocks, too.
SoCon| 6.4.10 @ 11:49PM
Canuck's blowing smoke about Boxer--she's as disliked as ever.
Buzz off troll--liar.
Margie| 6.4.10 @ 10:19AM
Common sense: We have a 2 party system, like it or not.
Fact: Voting for a third party candidate, writing in someone's name on the ballot, or not voting at all because the Republican isn't pure enough, gave us Obama and will give us Obama II.
I'm a realist. I also do what is best under these actual real and true circumstances. In view of these facts, I always vote Republican, always choosing the most conservative candidate in a primary. If that candidate doesn't become the nominee I still vote for the Republican who does because in my mind, and I believe in truth, that having a Republican administration is like the difference between electing the Stalin administration and electing a party that at least despises Socialism, Communism, non-interventionism, welfare-ism, Health care takeover-ism, Censorship-ism, Racism, Rev. Wright Religion-ism, etc. & etc.
Reality may stink, but either we hide our heads in the sand and complain about the Republican party... or--- or-- Get out there and VOTE for conservatives early on. Make SURE the get elected by spreading the word, backing them with our $$$.. what $$$ some of us may have, that is. Every dollar counts!
OK, I'm done for now, Till next time. Onward!
Lullaby's, Legends and Lies| 6.4.10 @ 12:27PM
Hi Margie: I still haven't forgiven myself for voting for Ross Perot back in 1992, just because I was pissed at Bush #1 at the time (read my lips, no new taxes!!). All I did in the end, was catapult Old Billy Boy into office for the next 8 years!! I really wasn't that pissed off at Old George, to pay such a heavy price, for so long!! Sometimes you've got to lighten up on the Republican nominee, even if they do have "some" faults (just hold your nose as you're voting-it helps). But it's definitely better than alternative, of just another "give it all away" Democrat. Damn Ross Perot, and his very convincing economic charts!! Don't fall for it!!
Margie| 6.4.10 @ 1:43PM
Afternoon, SGT. LLL's!
Yeah, I remember Ross Perot too. He sure sounded great, didn't he? Listening to him back then actually started the ball rolling on paying attention to politics for me. (Though a bit older, I voted for the first time in '92.) Before that I didn't care to pay attention. I also started listening to el Rushbo (yee-ha! love him), and no longer did the "political world" bore me.. you know how Rush makes it interesting.
So, common sense told me I ought to place my vote for GW, NOT Ross Perot, since he didn't have much chance of winning. Then, as now, I believe that it is much more important to make sure we have a Republican administration in office, even though the candidate himself may not be the one we wanted. After all, we can work with the Repubs., hold their feet to the fire like Ken said. So much more damage is done by the party of Stalin (ooops, did I just say that? Ohhh my.) than will EVER be done by ANY Republican administration.
Perot was such an interesting guy. A hugely successful businessman with lots of energy and ambition, which really drew me to him. I actually can't remember now what it was that changed my opinion about him, or what happened. Memory lapse.
Hey, maybe good old charts n' graphs Bob was Perot. Nah, I don't think good old Ross would have been that nasty.
loens | 6.4.10 @ 10:34AM
hmmm...iam not understand about it
Carolynn | 6.4.10 @ 12:17PM
People like Beck must take ownership in helping to destroy the Republican Brand.
I'm a Conservative and a Republican. I'm proud to be a Republican.
Bush did not destroy the brand of the party of Lincoln. Perhaps if our pundants take pride in what the blanks of the party stand for -- we'd be in better shape.
SoCon| 6.4.10 @ 11:57PM
I strongly disagree. Beck is a visionary who is guided by principle; it's ridiculous to blame him for destroying the Republican brand. Weak Republicans who have forgotten what Conservatism stands for are responsible for that destruction.
Bush bears some of that responsibility, too.
Margie| 6.5.10 @ 11:32AM
I agree that of course Beck cannot be responsible for such a thing. I do question his his way of thinking on one thing, though. And that is that he seems to be telling people not to vote Republican. I believe he's causing a huge amount of the voter base to opt out of doing that, on "principle" and so what are those voters going to do? Not vote at all or write in a candidate because the Republican isn't pure enough? It's the way to Obama II for certain.
I remember listening to him one day and he had been preaching against Paul Ryan. Really didn't like him. Then he decided to have him on one day and he fell in love with him. (I happen to think he's pretty great, myself).
What I'm not sure about is if he realizes what he's doing, or if he does know and is doing it anyway, knowing he's just about single handedly splitting the conservative vote. That's just my opinion. I don't dislike him, I think he's a Patriot, and I love his passion. I just think it's misdirected.
He isn't like Rush or Mark Levin in that they both know, like I do that we must restore the party, and not abandon it.. or does he?
SoCon| 6.5.10 @ 11:48PM
Beck's not afraid to admit he makes mistakes--he's not arrogant. I think he's a truth seeker who believes if we do the right thing God will sort out the rest. Glenn's adherence to our Founders' vision resonates with me and strengthens my resolve.
I understand your point, Margie, but if we don't hold our Republican officials accountable we're going to lose our country anyway. I don't know what "purity" means, but I do know what honor and principle mean.
Mark Levin's personal attacks against Glenn have really ticked me off. Levin looks petty and jealous.
Rush will always be my fave, he's never petty--I hope he finds happiness with his new wife.
Margie| 6.6.10 @ 1:10AM
Well SoCon, doing the right thing isn't acting as if we don't have a 2 party system in this country and that by sticking to "principle" and not voting Republican is a good or right thing to do.
If we want to lose again, we'll go according to that philosophy.
All I can say is: Do we want a Marxist regime in the White House? Yes? Vote Democrat then, or don't vote at all.
If you are tired of the destruction of the country, you will vote Republican.
Hold them accountable? What does that mean? It means if they fail in their promises and commitments, we vote them out next time around, no ifs, ands or buts, and no questions asked.
But how can you even work with a Democrat administration? It is just beyond me that people don't get this. It is exactly what the enemy loves! We are destroying ourselves. And some are contributing to the deceit of this mindset. This angers me. If Glen Beck really gave a flying flip about winning in the upcoming elections, he'd be telling the truth. That the Republican party needs to win, and that we need to restore it, by backing conservatives to win IN the party. Anything short of that is siding with the enemy. He has such an opportunity to be doing this. But is he?
And Mark Levin KNOWS what he's talking about. He's the one who's right.
SoCon| 6.6.10 @ 2:09PM
Margie, just because I may not agree with you on everything regarding saving our party doesn't mean I'm siding with the enemy. Now, that's PURISM!
Trust me--you are no angrier than I am.
You still don't have a solution to RINOs flipping their vote in favor of Leftist legislation.
As long as there are RINOs like Scott Brown who are willing to vote for Leftist legislation like the Banking Reform Act power grab, I don't see how our country can survive.
Margie| 6.6.10 @ 2:32PM
SoCon,
Don't twist what I said. I said exactly this: "That the Republican party needs to win, and that we need to restore it, by backing conservatives to win IN the party. Anything short of that is siding with the enemy."
How is that not a true statement?
A solution for flipping RINO'S? Are we God? Can we control what someone does? Of course not. What I am trying to reason about is this~ We in this country have elections! There is no other way. You cannot control people. You vote for the party that best represents your values. It's either Republican or Democrat. What else can we do? Not vote? It is just ridiculous. The Tim*'s of the world want that.
Do the Glen Becks want that, too?
Hold their feet to the fire and vote them out next time. It's the American way. It's simple.
It simply comes down to~ Do you want to continue being under the Marxist boot because your so called principles wouldn't let you vote for a Republican? (When I say you, I mean me, you, and all of us!)
I say, NO!
SoCon| 6.6.10 @ 2:52PM
You're insulting and you're making me angry. I've been a Conservative all of my life and I've always voted that way. I'm just sick and tired of Republicans who run as Conservatives and change into Demo-lite as soon as they get to DC.
I am not the enemy, Margie, I want the same things you do--you and I just differ on the best way(s) to get there.
SoCon| 6.6.10 @ 2:56PM
All I know is if we keep voting for RINOs Democrats will prevail.
I don't know how we can create a Conservative party if we don't hold our elected officials accountable.
Margie| 6.6.10 @ 3:11PM
I now consider you a total and complete troll, SoCon. I did not insult you. I speak truthfully. I am not in favor of RINO's, nor am I not in favor of NOT holding their feet to the fire.
Apparently you cannot or do not want to read, like Tim*.
So long.
SoCon| 6.6.10 @ 4:14PM
Margie, I hope a troll posted in your name--if not you're totally out of your mind. Brittle branches break, Margie.
I've posted at AmSpec since the beginning--if anyone's a troll--it's YOU.
Margie| 6.6.10 @ 4:21PM
I couldn't care less your length of posting here. You have accused me falsley along with the other lying troll, Tim*.
Liars, the both of you.
SoCon| 6.6.10 @ 4:34PM
Tim's right, you're nuts.
Margie| 6.6.10 @ 4:43PM
For all I know, you ARE Tim*. Right back atcha, SoCon.
Margie| 6.6.10 @ 6:27PM
correction: Nor am I not in favor of holding their feet to the fire.
Lullaby's, Legends and Lies| 6.6.10 @ 7:22PM
Excuse me, can I interrupt here? The Battle this year, is not Conservatives vs. Republicans, nor is it Republican vs. Conservative. This year's Battle, is "US" vs. the Democrats, the Socialists, the Communists, and the rest of the Enemies of the United States of America (both foreign and domestic), who appear to have taken control of our Country. And if we lose this Battle this year, it may result in the immediate dissolution of any future "WE" might have as a Nation, so don't worry about the "next" time, or the "right" candidate, when we actually have to worry about just surviving this year.
So what? Some Republicans don't pass the Conservative smell test (like Brown in Mass), but they're as good as it's ever going to get in a State like that (and that's why I sent him money back in January myself). Then we have some "true" Conservatives, that just don't have the political backing, or the name recognition, or just don't have the money, to ever get to the finish line. So maybe we should just thrown them back in the lake after the Primary's are over, and save them for another day (my finger's are crossed that there will be another day).
"WE" have got to keep our eye's on the big prize this year, which is to take out the leg's of the Donkey that is running wild in Washington right now, we have got to fight together for the destruction of the Democratic Party in America (that also happens to be my New Years Resolution too). So maybe we don't get DeVore in California, and we end up getting stuck with Fiorina instead, is this really a make or break moment for anybody? It's not for me, because next Tuesday, if Fiorina wins, I'm going straight to her website immediately and donating to her too (because sometimes, it's as good as it gets)!! Otherwise, we'll have Barbara Boxer for the next six years, glaring down her nose, through her bifocals, showing disdain to every voter in America, and that means you SoCon, and that means you too Margie. Now head back to you respective corners you two, and come back out again tomorrow to fight another day. Remember "WE" are on the same Team, "WE" are fighting the same enemy, "WE" have the same goals in mind. "WE" are not each other's adversaries. If you two were in my Platoon right now, you'd both be running extra laps today!!
I'm a big fan of both of you, and it breaks my heart to watch you two fighting. You don't really mean to break a Soldier's heart, now do you?
Margie| 6.7.10 @ 11:49AM
Sorry, LLL's. We are not on the same team, sadly. Glen Beck isn't on the same team. Paul supporters aren't on the same team.
It's just reality. They'd rather lose the election than vote for the best Republican.
Sheer insanity. Twist my words all they want, try and paint me as a RINO, Un-American, Israel-Firster, phony Christian, etc. etc. etc. all they want to.. the reality is if we don't quit playing stupid games and get involved in backing conservatives to run IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, we are TOAST!
SoCon| 6.12.10 @ 5:25PM
With nuts like you the Republican party is dead.
Stop hiding behind Biblical passages and learn to think for a change. Your reasoning is lazy.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.4.10 @ 12:17PM
I have a sneaky suspicion that the best Republican congress critters are "keeping their powder dry" in order to volley-fire "en-masse" September October.
They don't want to telegraph their moves....now.
OK
Job ONE:
Nominate the best R candidates we can find.
Margie nailed it above.
Then elect them and light a fire in their pants.
Tim*| 6.4.10 @ 12:34PM
We ,Tea Party Rebels Are NOT Supporting RINO-CINO's.
This is exactly how The Poster Boy RINO-CINO Arlen Specter got away with it for years.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.4.10 @ 12:46PM
OK Tim*
Send your money and "support" to solid conservatives...now...for the primaries.
November decides slavery ...now.....or maybe more time to turn this mess around.....or...civil war/secession.
Please see my comment on "Worse Than Depression".
gearjammer| 6.4.10 @ 12:52PM
Gee Tim I am willing to support your person when they win but you shun mine when they win fair and square. Blow it out your arse you self absorbed fanatical baby. We will win with or without your precious vote and we will be a pragmatic party that will jam the gears of the DPPM-democrat party political machine and then inch forward in a coming hammer and tong political war in which the side opposed to the needs all the loyal fighters it can recruit. You aint loyal bub - so screw !
gearjammer| 6.4.10 @ 12:53PM
opposed to DPPM.
Doctor Right| 6.4.10 @ 12:53PM
"Republicans are likely to leave a lot of opportunities on the table come November..."
Big surprise there, right?
When has the "Stupid Party" ever shied away from blowing a good opportunity?
Let's see...Ford '76...Bush '41's horrendous, lackadaisical '92 campaign (he had 90% approval ratings in 1991!)...Newt's '95 over-reach...Dole '96...Bush 43's "new tone" and his trust of Democrat "good intentions"...McCain '08...
...Please, let me stop.
The Tea Party movement has helped to push the Party in the right direction (Specter, Bennett, Crist..Adios, a-holes!), but there's still too many timid losers prowling the halls of Congress on the GOP side who are afraid to take on Obama, one of the most obvious targets for criticism to EVER occupy the White House.
Additionally, they (the GOP "leadership") have avoided embracing the furor that Obama has generated in this country in order to turn it into a cohesive 2010 platform. It's almost July, and we STILL don't have a coherent message for why people should vote GOP in November. "Obama sucks" will NOT be enough to carry the day.
Thankfully, the Tea Party movement, as well as some individual Congressmen and women are seizing the reins to steer the ship in the right direction. Look for big gains in November, enough to seriously impede Obama's objectives, but I wouldn't get our hopes up about taking back either house.
And here's a prediction for you...And you herd it here first:
Arizona's Senate race is a no-win for the GOP. If JD Hayworth defeats McCain in the Arizona GOP primary, then McCain will run as an independent (like his good buddy Charlie Crist), and WIN re-election in Arizona...And he will caucus with the Democrats in the Seante. Ole' Johny will be so pissed at his rebuff by the GOP voters of Arizona that he'll enact his revenge on them and his Party by stabbing them in the back.
Lakis Velotris| 6.23.10 @ 12:02PM
Did Illinois Giannoulias, Florida's Crist, California's Angelides and New York's Gianaris apply Greek budgeting techniques like Sarbanes Oxen? Greek Ponzi fourfold Eurodefecit boasts Trojan Horse Perfidy, Klephth Brigandage. Upset that industrious Albanians invaded their lazy, gungrabbing, babykilling homeland, the soviet-churched Greeks vindictively hire, house and promote illegals. As quakes render their homes disposable, Greeks are oblivious to the very concept of maintenance. Instead of blaming environmetalists for fires and socialists for deficits, jealousy driven soviet faith seeks scapegoats. Olympia Snowjob supports Obamacare and abortion because of her gangreen patriarch (Is Orthodox Christianity progressive? Michelle Boorstein Washington Post 11-4-09 Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew spoke about the spiritual imperative for nonviolence, universal health care and reducing consumption to help the environment.) Ancient Greeks reduced consumption to help the environment through infanticide and sodomy. Palamite Zealotes massacred Thessalonian aristocracy in preparation for Cantacuzene usurpation via hesychast hyperventilatory hallutination. This soviet socialism motivated Anatolian farmers to embrace Turks in the 1400s to avoid redistributative taxation and then for liberated mainlanders to migrate to Smyrna in the 1800s. Ain't gonna vote for Do Kaka Goat! Avenge Jake, Hang Bart!
Tim*| 6.4.10 @ 1:01PM
Gee Toughie Girlieman gearjammer , have We ,Tea Party Rebels upset your agenda.
That's the same crap We , Gun & Bible Clutchin' Pennsylvanians got from Arlo Sphincter's handlers .
Now, go look at The Latest Rasmussen Polling for Our Real Conservative Tea Party Candidate Pat Toomey .
Then , go have yourself a nice day .
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates .
We Can See November From Our Tea Party House .
Rich Rostrom| 6.4.10 @ 1:24PM
I agree with the author. The GOP has yet to overcome the damage done by its inaction and corruption pre-2006.
More important, perhaps, the party is not doing a an effective job of recruiting and vetting candidates. Much of the voting base is alienated from the party apparatus. The regulars seem to be more concerned about protecting their insider deals with government than with fighting for conservative issues or protecting the public interest. Thus the voters distrust party endorsements. Lacking authority the party isn't even doing 'due diligence' in many cases.
This leads to situations like the 8th Congressional District here in Illinois. A six-way primary was won by a candidate with severe personal financial problems (some of his former campaign staff are suing him for back pay). The 8th was a solidly Republican district for decades; but the long-time incumbent became ineffective (and drunk). He should have been nudged into retirement - instead he lost the seat to a Democrat in 2004. That Democrat would be vulnerable this year, if the Republican candidate was any good - but he isn't.
So there's one opportunity left on the table.
Connecticut looks like another one. Instead of a solid ex-U.S. Representative with a real millitary record to oppose the Democrat faker, we'll have a representative of the "Pro wrestling industry" - whose fortune was made off staged catfights between ex-porn actresses, and staged feuds among her own family, among other vulgar and grotesque stunts. This isn't going to do Republicans any good there or elsewhere.
Jerry McConnell| 6.4.10 @ 1:47PM
There are still GOP candidates that are following the wishes of the establishment Republicans who think that just because there is a push against liberal Democrats this coming election, that they can be just like all GOP'ers of the past.
But part of the feeling against Congress is due to the Republicans who vote in RINO fashion and think that the Republican label will save them.
Not this time; the mood is prevalently aimed at getting rid of not only LIBERALS, but also RINO's. This is being proven at the primaries so far this year.
Even McCain, Mr. RINO-deluxe and Mr. Amnesty is suddenly a Richard Viguerie conservative while on the campaign trail; but one wonders how long it will last if re-elected.
I hope the Arizonians who have proved to be astute with the new illegal alien bill, as just as savvy when it comes to McCounterfeit.
Marcell| 6.4.10 @ 3:33PM
DREAM ON LOSERS
Political Chess: Driving a Stake in Blind Faith Conservatism.
http://www.algore.org/blog/bla.....oints_2010
On June 4th, 2010 BLACK CELL said:
The Louisiana fishermen’s blind faith support for conservatism can provide the best way to force other like them (Ma & pa business owner) to show the threats of blindly supporting one.
The blind faith conservatives have taken the term preaching to the choir to a new low, as their leaders double down on the hate President Obama rhetoric.
The repugs want us to believe the federal government has done more damage than BP concerning the oil spill; I believe we should by talking about how conservatives like the gulf coast conservative’s fishermen.
The real problem is what they stand to lose if they continue blindly supporting their repugnant leaders who use think tanks propaganda to attack their bases emotions in ways that forces them to lose perspective on the real issues.
I am sure that many, if not all, gulf coast blind faith conservatives fishermen religiously believed that the oil company had newer & safer ways to drill for oil because their ring leaders like Han-nutty Newt- Gain-green, Hush Limbaugh & The Honorable Palin X , along with their army of robot worker ants who blindly spew the repugs talking points market the idea.
The repubs want to give the false impression that Obama is a complete failure but the real complete failure was the fact that conservatives have, & are still, blindly following the people who gave us the Bu$h Crime Family, higher oil prices, & an economic crisis that has hurt our country immensely.
I also believe that if the conservatives want a fight, they can get one, but they better make sure they know what they are talking about because we still haven’t seen any of the supposed newer drilling technologies work like many of the conservatives marketed in 2008.
It looks like the conservative fishermen didn’t vote their wallets because the Beck & Faux News types have full control over their emotions in the worse ways.
Bydand76| 6.4.10 @ 7:17PM
Lord save us.
The sad thing is Marcell here really truly believes this garbage.
Well Marcell how about providing some real numbers and statistics supporting your position instead of the same old tired progressive propaganda pap that Liberal douchebags like to spout so often?
No?
Here are some for you.
http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....san_trends
STFU!
Pro Libertate!
Tim*| 6.4.10 @ 7:39PM
Well , Shuck & Jive Trash Talker Marcell ,
" A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 44% of Likely U.S. Voters would vote for their district's Republican congressional candidate, while 36% would opt for his or her Democratic opponent. "
The tea Party Rebellion Escalates .
5 Months To November 2nd .
Margie| 6.5.10 @ 1:56PM
Here we have a very pure example of how the Left KNOWS just how to turn people away from voting Republican. Unfortunately some on our side are doing the same exact thing.
The tactic is to speak horribly about the party, how's it's a failure, how they're all RINO's and not worthy of the vote.
Some of you need to go and read a few books on how Stalin enslaved the people. We have the Democrat party enslaving us now using much the same tactics. It's not the enslaving of the literal Nazi camps, but it is the same freedom sucking party and quickly destroying our country. You all know how it's being done.
Believe this fool, Marcell, and it may as well be the others speaking as well on our side~ and DON'T vote Republican. It's his trick. It's the Left's trick. Fall for it and we lose AGAIN and get Obama II.
NO Republican is a Marxist. NO Republican is a Communist. Which party do you want to see win?!
Tim*| 6.5.10 @ 3:10PM
The Republican Party Does Not Own Our Tea Party Souls .
We are Not Supporting Republican CINO's .
You Can Cram This " Lesser Of Two Evils " Crap . We ain't Sellin' Our Souls to The Arlen Specter Types in The Republican Party.
Run another Serial Traitor to Conservatism like John McCain against Obama in 2012 and We ,Tea Party Rebels Will NOT support that candidate.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates .
Remember In November !
victor| 6.5.10 @ 7:17PM
You are a perfect example of why we lost to Obama.
You said you wrote someone's name on your ballot rather than vote for McCain.
If given the choice between a part time conservative and a full time Marxist, what are you going to do? Are you going to do the same thing in November of 2010 and again in November of 2012 that you did in the last election?
What an idiot. You call McCain a serial traitor compared to Obama? I wonder if that has something to do with your utter hatred for his Hawkishness, and your anti-semitism?
May there be many more right minded people who understand what is at stake and cast their vote for the Republican presidential candidate in order to cancel your non-vote.
SoCon| 6.5.10 @ 11:57PM
Come up with a way to hold Republicans accountable and there won't be a problem. Any ideas?
BTW--"Marcell" is a huge jerk of a troll--probably Liberal Screeder--and should be ignored at all costs.
Margie| 6.6.10 @ 10:44AM
So~~ To the Becks and Tim*'s it comes down to this:
Obama/Biden rather than McCain/Palin.
On principle, of course!
Tim*| 6.6.10 @ 12:23PM
What would you know about principle ?
You're willin' to sell your soul to Republican CINO's , despite all your righteous empty talk.
We .Tea Party Rebels have " Primaried " The Republican Party & placed our Candidates into The General Mid Term Elections .
We Tea Party Rebels support Pat Toomey , Rand Paul , etc.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates .
We Can See November From Our Tea Party Houses.
Tim*| 6.6.10 @ 12:11PM
Well , look what the cat dragged in .
The Republican Party was in trouble when The Neocon Faction Agendists supported & backed The Serial Traitor to Conservatism John McCain in The Republican Primaries.
Even then , McCain was 2 points up , after choosing Sarah Palin & The Convention
Aaaaaand then ,
McCain opposed The Republican Rebels & voted for TARP & He never recovered in the polls.
Now let's see ya defend McCain-Feingold , McCain-Kennedy , McCain-Lieberman ,Gang of 14 ,opposing The Bush Tax Cuts of 2001 & 2003 .
We are Hawkish about United States National Interests , not The National Interests & Foreign Agendas Of Palestinians & Israelis & their fellow travelers.
Got It Sport ?
Get It .
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates .
We will Remember In November.
Margie| 6.6.10 @ 12:20PM
Tim* is absolutely blind. He cannot read, nor can he think. He is blinded by his hatred of Israel and of conservatives who back her.
To him Obama/Biden was a better choice than McCain/Palin. He is a one-track minded Toddard, Red Phillips, Sean, William R. et al lying anti-semite with an agenda to to destroy the Republican party. Under the cover of his constant Tea Party preaching this is who he is. Just another Paul-bot non-interventionist deceiver.
'Cept we're not fooled. Get a life, creep.
Let's see you defend that
Tim*| 6.6.10 @ 12:37PM
Uh Oh , Faux Religious Lady Margie is upset with Tim* again.
Gee Sweetie Pie , I wouldn't vote for an Alynskyite Socialist , like Obama & I neither would I vote for a Serial Traitor to Conservatism , like John McCain.
You spoke of & you chose your version of " Pragmatic " over " Principle " . Aaaand ya provoked the results you started . Now live with it .
And Have A Fine Day .
Margie| 6.6.10 @ 12:50PM
The results I provoked, hmm? Well, you are always provoked by the truth, aren't you, Tim*?
Obama/Biden was a better choice for you. Yes, you are sooo principled! You with all the other losers out there gave us Obama and his Marxist regime. So you choose to continue in your insanity.
Faux Religious? I'm not "Religious". I'm not a Catholic. I am a Christian, by the Grace of God, and according to the word of God "No one can snatch you me out of the Father's hand." Jn. 10:29. And you just don't get to judge. Sorry!
Our Republican votes will cancel out your anti-American no-votes, God willing. Based on principle, that is!
Tim*| 6.6.10 @ 1:21PM
Gee most hypocritical & unprincipled False Religious Lady Margie , I'm a Registered Republican.
That's how we chased away RINO-CINO Arlen Specter & elected Tea Party Candidate Pat Toomey .
Now , let's see here , hmmmmm.
If Arlen Specter was The Republican Candidate , according to your version of " Pragmatism over Principle " , you would vote for Arlen Specter.
Apparently , you haven't followed our Gun & Bible Clutchin' Pennsylvanians ' multi-year incremental effort to take down Arlen Specter with Real Conservative Pat Toomey .
That's why Pat Toomey leads Sestak & will be Pennsylvania's next United States Senator & Specter has been thrown on the ash heap of history.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates .
5 months to November 2nd.
Margie| 6.6.10 @ 1:28PM
Lying scumbag Tim*, you are a sickening human being, like your friend Toddard and his ilk you constantly lie and purposely twist what I say, and continue to say.
You cannot read. You cannot reason. You are a liar.
Tim*| 6.6.10 @ 1:39PM
Don't know this dude , Toddard.
Aaaand , you are one angry Pseudo-Religious Nut Bag .
Get some therapy Sweetheart .
The Tea Party Rebellion Moves Forward .
Remember In November .
Tim*| 6.6.10 @ 1:44PM
Gee angry Faux Religious Lady Margie , Catholics are Christians too.
Didn't ya get the memo ?
The Tea Party Rebellion Moves Forward.
Pat Toomey Will Be Pennsylvania's Next United States Senator.
Margie| 6.6.10 @ 1:50PM
Do you know where liars end up, Tim*?
Tim*| 6.6.10 @ 2:03PM
Chicago .
Hold That Thought !
SoCon| 6.6.10 @ 2:13PM
I believe you both have valid points. All I know is we'd better get our act together if we want our country to survive.
Margie--I ALWAYS vote for Republicans--I never stay home on election day.
Margie| 6.6.10 @ 2:23PM
SoCon,
What, pray tell, is the "valid point" from Tim*? He is a liar, constantly twisting what I say.
He has an agenda.. do you not read his posts? He is a Toddard. Always coming out to denounce conservatives who back Israel. He is a snake!
I say it is always better to vote "R" than "D" and this creep twists that into I am an faux Christian, nutbag, Israel firster, etc. & etc. If you cannot see the despicable character of this person than I fear you are just as deceived as he is.
Margie| 6.6.10 @ 2:17PM
"But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, as for murderers, fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their lot shall be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death." Rev. 21:8.
SoCon| 6.6.10 @ 2:41PM
Margie, maybe you're deceived. Is it your way or the highway?
I may disagree with you on some matters but I would never question your intentions. That you question mine offends me deeply.
I don't agree with Tim on everything but I believe he has a point regarding RINOs.
It's rare we get everything we want in life on our own terms, Margie--usually we have to compromise with others to attain our goals. I know you know this.
I understand your point of view, but I also recognize you have no answer for RINO disloyalty. Do you understand my point?
You say "Purism" doesn't work, but yours doesn't, either. How can we bridge the gap?
Margie| 6.6.10 @ 2:58PM
SoCon,
Where in my posts have I questioned your motives?
SoCon| 6.6.10 @ 3:00PM
Peace, Margie. I have no ill-will, okay?
Margie| 6.6.10 @ 3:07PM
Neither do I, but you have accused me of questioning your motives.. I haven't I have been talking to good old Tim*. Perhaps you thought the Bible verse I quoted was toward you. It was not, it was toward him, who lies.
Comprimise, you say? Even I am saying that it isn't a comprimise to vote R rather than D, yet I am excoriated for being a fraud and RINO lover, yet you say this!
I am afraid there is no reasoning ability here. My way or the highway? Right. McCain/Palin did not deserve the votes of conservatives, that's what the lying troll Tim* says, who you defend!
Arrrgh!
SoCon| 6.6.10 @ 4:24PM
I know your Bible quotes weren't meant for me--just because I agree with Tim on the RINO matter doesn't mean I agree with him on other matters.
Where did I say MC/P didn't deserve our vote? Do you believe all RINOs deserve our votes?
Margie, I never called you a fraud, I know you argue in good faith; I just don't think you accorded me the same respect.
I'm so tired of the fights and insults, the constant screaming past each other--when will we get our act together and actually listen to one another?
Margie| 6.6.10 @ 4:39PM
You're the one who accused me of questioning your stupid motives, SoCon. I'm through with the assinine RINO nonsense. Who wants RINO's? This is so unbelievably ridiculous. So a Democrat is better? So immature.
I'm thoroughly sick to death of playing the mind games with low lives like Tim* and his defenders. What a buch of fake, phony, frauds!
You want to pretend that what I'm saying is crazy? (you accused me of that, above). You keep the phony accusatiuons coming right along with Timmy*. Way to go, SoCon!
I'm outta here. While you all are going in idiotic circles trying to figure out how to control the RINO's and blaming the Republicans for the reason we have a Marxist in office because you couldn't vote the "serial traitor" McCain, I'll be busy backing conservatives who run in the Republican party, as I have ALWAYS said and do!
The loser Libertarians and Paleo-freaks and and Third partiers are the ones who talk like this and are costing us elections.
Have a nice stinking life.
SoCon| 6.12.10 @ 5:29PM
Good lord, what a loser you are. I pity your poor husband.
Stop hiding behind Biblical passages, Margie; just because you can spout the Lord's words doesn't make you right--you're just a good spouter.
Tim's right--you are nuts.
mujalan| 6.4.10 @ 4:29PM
Speaking as a former Republican turned Independent I'm afraid that this article is spot on. I would LIKE to vote Republican, but I am no longer going to do it just because some RINO pastes the label GOP on his/her shirt. I would really like to see the GOP get its act together, along with some backbone, but seeing the wimpy performance of some of the so-called Republicans in Congress I'm doubtful about this. It seems that many of them are never going to learn until perhaps they are thrown out of office.
ojo grande| 6.4.10 @ 9:25PM
Why is it so hard for Republican politicans to understand what the American people want? Is it because many of them are afraid to take a strong stand on issues because they've put their political careers before their country?
The American people want jobs, a strong economy, protection from terrorism, a balanced budget, to get rid of Obamacare, to fix Social Security, a smaller, less intrusive government, reasonable taxes, fences on the border to stop illegal immigration, to be energy independent (it's there)...why is it so hard for politicans to grasp these simple wishes and support them...not with just words, but with definitive plans. The voting American public is so much more intelligent than most politicans give them credit.
If only all of them were more like Congressman Paul Ryan...
Dan Hirsch| 6.4.10 @ 10:04PM
!ojo grande!
Do what I did! Move into Ryan's district so you can vote for him and work for him.....
JBSTLMO| 6.5.10 @ 1:12AM
Folks, I understand the RINO thing. But you've got to remember all the rest of the things BO wants to accomplish. We have got to take back 1 house of congress minimum this election to stop him before throwing his ass out in 2012. Worry about the RINOS later, in the mean time we need numbers to stop him. That means picking up atleast 4 or 5 seats in the senate AND taking control of the house. We can throw out the RINOS later, better yet do it in the PRIMARY election.
If we let the DEMS keep control of both houses of congress AND the WH until 2012 all will be lost.
All of you people who wanted to teach Republicans a lesson in 2006 and 2008 ask yourself this question:
Have things gotten better or worse? Was it ever this bad under Hastert and Trent Lott? Was it?
victor| 6.5.10 @ 7:20PM
Well said.
SoCon| 6.6.10 @ 12:03AM
How do you know we wanted to teach Republicans a lesson? It's a lazy assertion and a lie to boot.
As long as we don't hold our elected officials accountable nothing will change--I don't know why you don't understand that. Conservatives vote for RINOs--it's the Independents who go Democrat.
victor| 6.6.10 @ 1:53AM
SoCon,
It's not a lie and timmy boy keeps proving it.
It's a fact that republicans stayed home in 2006 and 2008.
It's also a fact that the same people either stayed home or voted for Ross Perot in 1992 and 1996.
And we got Bill Clinton. Twice!
Do you want the same thing to happen in 2012?
Just keep listening to *tim*, glenn beck and vote for that wonnerful and mahvelous THIRD PARTY!
You will get Obama 2.0.
Bigger, better and meaner than ever.
You will get the government you deserve.
On second thought, Carter gave us Reagan and Clinton gave us GW.
Just imagine who will come after Obama II.
Christie-Palin 2012!
Tim*| 6.6.10 @ 1:04PM
Uh Oh !
Vic Baby here , thinks I voted for the somewhat nuts & zany Perot.
You keep on provin' that you're an uninformed imbecile.
You are indeed ,the gift that keeps on givin' .
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates
We Can See November From Our Tea Party Houses
victor| 6.6.10 @ 1:31PM
You continue to twist in the wind, as twisted people do.
Like my wife said: You cannot read. You cannot reason. You are a liar.
Tim*| 6.6.10 @ 1:52PM
Apparently , you're wife's a Buffoon like you , Vic Baby.
victor| 6.6.10 @ 5:16PM
Hey *Twerpy* *Timmy*,
I never said that you voted for Perot.
Your reading comprehension is slipping or your taking lessons from Libby Reader.
If you did vote for Perot, that's your problem. not mine.
Learn to read.
I said that those who vote third party or lower, such as the libertarian party, will always make sure that the dem is elected, i.e., clinton in '92 and '96 and Obama in 2008 and 2012.
Capice?
Verstehe?
Tim*| 6.7.10 @ 7:10AM
Well Viccie , you're reading comprehension already slipped.
Tim* already said , " Vic Baby here , thinks I voted for the somewhat nuts & zany Perot.
You keep on provin' that you're an uninformed imbecile. "
I guess like Clinton , with you , " It depends what the meaning of "is " is . "
Sciocco !
Dummkopf !
SoCon| 6.6.10 @ 2:31PM
Victor, cite evidence that Glenn Beck has EVER called for a third party. If you have no proof you really shouldn't make the claim. Beck is AGAINST a third party.
I always vote; but I think Independents may stay home if they don't have a clear choice.
You and Margie don't have a solution for RINOs--many times they vote with democrats.
I like Christie a lot, but I'm not sure about him on social issues and I don't know if he's held office long enough for a POTUS run. I'm also concerned about his weight and if his health is good. Also, I don't think Palin would want to run as a VP candidate again and I wouldn't blame her.
victor| 6.6.10 @ 5:19PM
We never said that Becky supports a third party, but rather he does not support the Republican Party.
BTW why would you be more concerned about Governor Christopher Christie's weight instead of his policies,eh?
That is what the dems were more concerned with.
Tim*| 6.7.10 @ 7:28AM
First , Parsing Vic says , " Just keep listening to *tim*, glenn beck and vote for that wonnerful and mahvelous THIRD PARTY! "
Then Vic says, "We never said that Becky supports a third party ".
Notice Parcing Vic uses The Royal " We " .
Bobo !
Sot !
Margie| 6.7.10 @ 11:31AM
That's right, scumbag. If you listen to Beck, you'll vote for a third party, or don't vote at all!!!! Because no one's good enough. It's your shared philosophy. The Paul-bot lunatic philosophy.
Keep on keepin' on, whack job.
Margie| 6.7.10 @ 12:03PM
Too bad you vile creature's hatred isn't turned toward the Democrat party instead of those of us who want to win.
Twisted minds.
SoCon| 6.12.10 @ 5:36PM
Margie, you're so blinded by fear you can' think straight. You need to have more faith.
Mimi| 6.5.10 @ 1:02PM
Heh..PASS.....You are sounding a little negative! I don't sense it myself. My hopes, knowing that it is early now, and all my instincts.... tell me it looks pretty darn good for Repub's/ Conservative in November. The call should be: SAVE the CONSTITUTION keep our way of life and Democracy strong. LET US BE FREE TO FLOURISH & GROW as never before. Do we want SHARIA-LAW? DO WE WANT the One-Worlder's way? It Is NOW that we are at the cross-roads....CHOOSE... FOR AMERICA!!
Northern Rebel| 6.5.10 @ 1:09PM
Unfortunately, the one thing we always seem to be able to count on, is the republican party screwing up when opportunity arises.
The league leaders in foot shooting, they are like the keystone cops! As Casey Stengel used to say,
"Can't anyone here play this game?"
The problem:
We have no leadership!
Who is the leader of the republican party?
RUSH LIMBAUGH!
I love, revere, and respect Rush, but we need a politician to assume the mantle of leadership, and there are none capable of doing it.
Who's on the list of candidates?
Mitch McConnell
Mitt Romney
Newt Gingrich
Sarah Palin
Fred Thompson
I'm sure you will tell me if I missed your favorite, but it is sad, when I have to sit here thinking about it.
A true leader emerges, and does not appear on a list. It is obvious who a true leader is, and there Aint nuttin' obvious about conservative political leadership.
We have been granted an opportunity to crush liberalism like it has never been crushed before, and I fear we are going to piss it away, because nobody will stand up and say,
"I am a Constitutional Conservative, and I'm damn proud of it!"
So instead we win elections with frauds like Scott Brown, who resembles Lowell Weicker in ideology. (Whatever gets me elected, is what I'll say.)
You know we are in trouble when John (doddering old fool) McCain is still getting face time on fox news.
Margie| 6.5.10 @ 2:00PM
NR,
Forget McCain for a moment. Forget Scott Brown. Read my above post, (to Marcell). Tell me what you think.
ojo grande| 6.5.10 @ 2:38PM
Margie,
I'm a conservative Republican....and I learned my lesson when I voted for Perot. Even though I was really angry with the weak good-old-boys in the Republican Congress... I held my nose and voted for McCain....I even thought of wearing a clothes-pin on my nose when I voted, but was afraid I would make the front page of our local paper (haha). I didn't have the opportunity to vote for Romney who wasn't as conservative as I would have wanted...but I would have perferred over McCain, because I believed he had the know-how to get us out of this economic rut...It was frustrating to know that Conservatives were staying home to make a point...I'm sure they regret it now. Even I had no idea how destructive Obama would turn out to be...but I knew he was a far-left socialist with an agenda, he told us as much...and the way he played up to his worshipping crowds really concerned me...the guy actually began to believe he was the next Messiah . Who would have believed that he was going to be incompetent on top of all of his many flaws. But, his silly 'fans' now know that he can't lower the seas little lone keep them clean of oil.
I don't think you have to worry about people refusing to vote this time around...even many who voted for Obama can't wait to get rid of this dangerous fraud....and many of his past worshippers will just quietly fade away.
Margie| 6.5.10 @ 7:29PM
I do hope you are right, ojo grande. I hope I'm right, too. I know there are a lot of people waking up but there are a lot of conservatives still willing to do it again. They don't seem to understand that a non vote or a no vote will hand over the election to Obama once again.
Perhaps the Democrats that have seen the light are going to be the ones causing us to win this time around. Perhaps they are sick of the Marxist in chief and their Marxist party.
It seems to me that many Americans aren't really that scared of becoming a country under Marxist rule.. not until their necks are firmly enough planted under the boot.
SoCon| 6.6.10 @ 4:41PM
I am afraid but I will not allow my fear to blind me.
ojo grande| 6.5.10 @ 2:44PM
Dan Hirsh,
I'm more and more impressed with Ryan each time I hear him speak...especially his take on how to improve Social Security. Let's hope he has a chance to see his ideas on SS come to fruition when we throw the Democrats and Obama out of office.
I live in the Southwest, so won't be able to vote for him...but keep up the good work for a good man.
Northern Rebel| 6.5.10 @ 3:45PM
Spot on, Margie!
It is like the proverbial frog in the bucket of water.
They are like the old Soviet Union. In agonizingly slow increments, your freedoms are lost so painlessly, that you don't even feel it, until it is too late to retrieve them.
This is why the trolls show up here, trying to disrupt us from what's important. We retaliate against their percieved ignorance, because we can't believe someone can be so misguided, as these progessive communists.
But...
They take advantage of our good will, and slowly advance the ball the second we soften.
We want to fight fair, but to not get down in the mud with them, is to lose.
Let the killing begin.
Northern Rebel| 6.5.10 @ 3:48PM
Ojo Grande:
All of us constitutional conservatives had to swallow the bad medicine you described in your post.
It took a lot of whiskey, to wash the taste of McCain out of my mouth!
JJ| 6.5.10 @ 5:30PM
McCain suspended his campaign to go back to Washington to get involved in the Wall Street Crisis. Remember? And the media trashed him for over-reacting.
I have a feeling that as President McCain would have suspended his work in Washington to go down to the Gulf to organize the containment and cleanup of OIL.
And would that have been ok with everyone?
Would that be ok with you John Stewart? sarcastic host of the Daily Show.
Mimi| 6.5.10 @ 6:51PM
Look Folks.... The Guy is out there....Spine of steel! Guts to the MAX!...Not only commands but demands respect of the WHOLE nation. We will ALL be behind him , He will win in an Historic landslide. He will campaign and TEACH the masses the CONSTITUTION...OUR GREAT HISTORY and in this generation it is our patriotic duty to protect and defend this nation. He will be a GOOD MAN... a defender of LIFE. He will not only lead with strength but with love and passion for this nation. HE WILL exhibit TRUTH. DO we know him now???.....THINK!!!!
bluecollarbytes| 6.6.10 @ 7:34AM
Is a rush to judgment, condemning BP in Obama's vile manner, 'un-American'? Besides operating in technologically-challenging conditions in order to acquire the oil we need to survive this modern life, what has BP done that deserves such morally-framed outrage from our prophet-king? It is 'un-American'.
Oldefarte| 6.6.10 @ 11:46AM
Paul's comments/words should be disected/understood for their basic/true meaning. He was not questioning the morality/necessity of the 1964 Civil Rights Law; but was simply disagreeing with its intrusion upon PRIVATE businessess 'rights' to refuse their products/services to a customer. Such a business SHOULD should have the'right' to exclude any/all customers [and thus close their business] if it chooses; but not to selectively refuse their business to selected groups [such actions would then become DISCRIMINATION with is morally and legally not allowed]. As to the comment about critism of BP being un-American, he was referring to the President's typically-slandering words against a PRIVATE business [similar to bankers/banks being 'fat cats']. Does this Harvard educated LAWYER/COMMUNITY ORGINIZER ever direct his slings/arrows at PUBLIC entities? Does he ever critisize Acorn, Fannie, Freddie, the Department of Justice's New Black Panther Party criminal case, the federal governments firing of Gerald Walpin, or his Presidential comments regarding a Boston policeman correctly performing his duty in arresting an abusive homeowner? Generally, politicians SHOULD simply TELL THE TRUTH/FACTS and leave the interpretation of same to the public; which SHOULD result in their being elected to their sought after political job/position!!!!
Margie| 6.6.10 @ 2:06PM
I don't trust R. Paul. He's aligned himself with Code Pink's Adam Kokesh. Do you understand what this man is about? Paul is cut from his father's cloth. He is the same non-interventionist loony as his Dad is. Very deceitful. The fact that he could not answer with an affirmative NO! when asked about if an establishment should not be allowed to allow blacks, is to me totally outrageous. No, I will not join the R. Paul bandwagon. Ever.
aware| 6.7.10 @ 6:20AM
So freedom of association is "outrageous" huh? Are there any other "freedoms" you'd like to see done away with?
And before you beat me with your Bible, I've long been redeemed by the Blood of the Lamb. Before you judge me unworthy of "conservatism" know that I've got 20 more years in the trenches of this political war and didn't fall for Perot. You got a lot to learn about politics if you don't want to be manipulated, again.
Just enlighten me as to when the Republicans EVER repealed anything! I remember Limbaugh after the '06 elections saying he'd never carry water for the Republicans again, yet here he is with a bucket in both hands. He'll be sorry again.
You don't have a problem with the Super State, just who is running it. Nothing will stop this from going over the cliff especially a speed bump like the Republicans.
And as far as the Constitution, hasn't it been here the whole time? It didn't stop the march to tyranny so what makes you think it would if we start over? It is the State, not you, that decides what is and is not "constitutional", that is why no constitution is worth the parchment it is written on. Read the anti-federalist papers cause they were right all along. Then read Von Mises so as to know about the inevitable crash that paper money and artificial credit are bringing us to. And last but not least, trust only God and not a rival in the form of the State, cause we have passed the point of no return. The State has always been in opposition to the Truth.
You may start condemning now.
Margie| 6.7.10 @ 11:18AM
Another lunatic Paul-bot. Go ahead, make our day. Paul for President! Yeah baby. That's the ticket!
Go for it.
I never condemned anyone. But you loony Paul-bots do all the condemning of me.
Screw you, loser.
Margie| 6.7.10 @ 12:56PM
P.s. you creepy liar~ So you believe as Pauly boy does, that Restaurants should be "free" to not allow blacks in to their establishments?
THAT'S what I say is WRONG, idiot. So quit twisting my words to suit your Libertarianism.
Margie| 6.7.10 @ 5:29PM
And just one more thing, smarty pants. Did Randy boy and you forget about this:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Specially that first part. "All men are created equal." Does that happen to include blacks?
I don't know what planet you guys come from, but in my America, it does. And I don't understand you Libertarian's idea of freedom, but my idea and the idea of the Founding Fathers, includes people with ALL skin colors.
aware| 6.8.10 @ 6:04AM
Spoken like a true Statist tool. Keep thinking the Republicans will save you and that you're not condemning anyone. Neither is true.
In case it hasn't dawned on you, it ain't the "libertarians" that are dragging you down the road to slavery. It's your "two party system" which is doing a jam up job at keeping you in the dark.
Notice how you now accuse me of racism after a good dose of name calling while avoiding my points. Just like a good little collectivist. Neo cons are always showing themselves to be progressives at heart. The hum of the Hive.
You are right about one thing, you definitely don't understand freedom.
Margie| 6.8.10 @ 10:40AM
You and your Israel hating anti-semite pals will go on being the imbeciles that you are, until you go to your grave accusing those of us who want to win and take our country back from the Marxists as being Neo-Cons, Israel Firsters, Statists, etc., etc.
You are indeed in bed with the enemies on the Left. You are just too blind to even see it.
Liars, all.
SoCon| 6.12.10 @ 5:38PM
Margie, you need a break; you sound like you're losing it.
ojo grande| 6.6.10 @ 12:06PM
bluecollarbytes,
What happened to BP was an accident, pure and simple, compounded by being forced to drill a mile under the ocean instead of closer to the coastline ...I put this all at the feet of our environmental crazies....if this well had been in more shallow water, first, it wouldn't have happened and if some mishap did occur, it would have been capped by the second or third day.
Obama only cares about this environmental and financial disaster (for the gulf coast residents, its wildlife and BP) because he is beginning to look like what he is....uncaring and incompetent. Its up to the feds to give permission to build the sand berms to keep the oil out of the important estuaries and marshlands...and they have only give Gov. Jindal permission to build 6 when he asked for more than 20 with no money attached...go to BP....completely incompetent....Obama and his liberal idiots have to show outrage and make statements like keeping their boot on BP's neck (how very Nazi of them) to try to look better....but its not working.
Anyone who thinks that BP did this on purpose is crazy. This spill will ruin them doing any more business on American
SoCon| 6.6.10 @ 2:20PM
I don't think BP did this on purpose but I do think they were guilty of shoddy upkeep on this well. Palin said BP was difficult to deal with when she was Governor.
I do think eco-terrorism is a possibility.
ojo grande| 6.6.10 @ 7:17PM
SoCon,
Well, its clear that something went terrible wrong, either some equipment didn't work properly or someone made a mistake that caused the well to blow. But do you believe that Obama and the federal government has done anything to help the resulting environmental calamity....he and his hencemen are just into blaming BP....its a media gimmick which is all they understand. I am so disgusted with this incompetent partyboy....yes, that's right, two WH parties for the Messiah and his Michele (in free designer clothes) in one week. They better have as much fun as they can because their free party boat on American tax payers back is about to sink. They kind of remind me of the French King and Queen right before the French revolution...the natives are definitely restless.
quantum pendant | 6.6.10 @ 9:41PM
I agree with Harry. and would add; this puffery also enables lazy voters to not get up and go vote . "Oh heck it is a done deal why bother to get off the couch". So let us not be so presumtious the results will be relative to our efforts not our predictions.
quicksand| 6.7.10 @ 1:07AM
What worries me is not RINOS and CINOs but the rift between margie and So.Con. Are estrogen levels in play here?
I'm reeling myself, from the punching and counter-punching. I'm imagining a 45-round fight between these two, heads bloodied but unbowed. The "cut-man" in each corner has long since given up and gone home. And they fight on. - - "Are, too!" "Am not!"
Party unity - it's wonderful. At this rate, we will all be holding our own feet to the fire come November.
Meanwhile, can anyone cite any case, anywhere, of any group, ever effectively holding any politician's feet to the fire? If there is any space left after margie's and So. Con's pitched battle, and anyone knows of a single chastened politician with toasted tootsies, resulting from constituents' ire, let's hear about it.
Would Health Care have passed if constituents were capable of influencing the vote? Watch Stupak. He will be back in Washington in some lobbyist position before you can say "corrupt politician".
Turning a congressman or senator out of office is not "holding his feet to the fire." It's just revenge. And does not remedy the situation. You then get a neophite who goes to DC and busies himself with the duty at hand - that of re-election.
So, you better influence your elected representative before you put him office, because you sure are not going to once he is ensconsed. Lobbyists and big $$ donors will drown you out. You won't get close enough to give him a hot-foot, much less hold his feet to the fire,
SoCon| 6.12.10 @ 5:50PM
Quicksand--holding a politician accountable is not revenge--it's responsible citizenship. Politicians don't own our government --we do.
You contradict yourself: First you say 'holding a politician's feet to the fire' is revenge, then you state that we should influence our representatives before we put them in office. I don't get it.
LOADING ZONE| 6.7.10 @ 2:33PM
What all this "feet to the fire" amounts to, is just what it has in the past - "All wind-up and no pitch". Remember the Contract with America? Remember Newt Gingrich at the little two-man lawn party with Bill Clinton, perched on a folding chair -Newt with his fox-eating-crap smile on his face. Slick just looking slick.
Remember how we piffled off our majority the last time?
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Unnerved| 6.8.10 @ 3:56AM
MARGIE - FRED THOMPSON ALERT-MARGIE
Tonight on west coast, Fred Thompson appeared on my TV screen. I thought perhaps he might be endorsing Meg Whitman or Carly Fiorina. But guess what? Fred has a new gig! He is hawking reverse mortgage insurance on paid commercials now like that over-the- hill actor, Robert Wagner.
Fred Thomson has an autobiography hitting the bookstores. He probably has a Senate pension. He must be getting residuals for Law and Order. His wife has a radio show. Nothing is ever enough.
This is the sell-out I was willing to give my vote to last election.
I'd rather it was dog food than reverse mortgages, which are a trap for the elderly. Old folks will trust that sincere, hound dog expression. And Fred, like Ben Stein, can laugh all the way to the bank.
Margie| 6.8.10 @ 11:45AM
Un,
Well, I do know about reverse mortgages not being a good thing, as I did research on it for my parents a couple of years back. I really loved Mr. Thompson when he was in government. He was a strong, calm, cool and collected conservative. I admired him greatly. Because of the good and decent man I know that he is, I'm going to with hold speaking ill of him, as you do.
Say all you want. We still have a 2 party system in this country and at the time, Fred would have probably been the best man for President. He dropped out of the race, and we got McCain as the nominee. I am a loyal Republican voter, and will continue to be such. Is there a better choice?
I am not of the crowd that thinks it is better to stay home. I refuse to allow my vote to be cancelled out by a Democrat. The party of Marxists is what we now have because of conservatives thinking this way. To me, it is ridiculous, immature, and insane!
So bash away, while the rest of us get out and vote, still, for the best Republican. Which is better than any Marxist.
unmitigated| 6.8.10 @ 5:08PM
I didn't ask you to join me in speaking ill of Fred. I merely pointed out that - - oh, what the hell difference does it make? Why does everything always come back to your implying that because one word is uttered against one thing Republican, the writer is not going to back the party in November - and all the Novembers to come?
Good grief, woman - to say that Fred Thompson is another "take the money and run" guy is hardly blasphemy, It is a simple truth. And its a pretty cheesy truth. The Million Dollar Man is selling hearing aids, Jamie Lee Curtis wants us all to get our digestive tracts hummin' with Activia yogurt and now here comes old Fred with the reverse mortgage shell game. It's worse that Ed McMahon and the Publishers Clearing House.
But just keep honking about our being taken over by Marxists and thinking you are the only one with a handle on the "real truth" and everyone else just better shut up and listen to the Gospel according to St. Margie.
You have a real gift for hyperbole.
Margie| 6.8.10 @ 9:20PM
And you're an idiot.
SoCon| 6.12.10 @ 5:43PM
Hi Dianne! Not you, Margie.
UNsurprised| 6.9.10 @ 12:49AM
Thanks, Margie. You made my point Three days ago I was the 82 year old conservative you encouraged to keep on writing and keep on voting -- and apparently keep on saying what I thought as long as it didn't ruffle your feathers or was counter to your own view.
Fred Thompson is an affable huckster, Margie. I am a crazy old lady and you are a conservative bully. And, contrary to what you believe, there is room in the world for all of us.
aware| 6.9.10 @ 6:09AM
The sure way to know that you have won the argument is when you receive the "idiot" medal from Margie.
She might even believe all will be well if Republicans just win, even though we tried that a couple of times before with the result being the State got bigger, took more, and spent more.
But THIS time "we" will "hold their feet to the fire". Yeah, sure. Bet the State will continue to operate like a plundering criminal gang no matter who "wins" an election.
Unassuming| 6.9.10 @ 2:37PM
I always knew I was put on this earth to make people like Margie feel superior - I just never got the "idiot" medal before. Its a proud day for me!
Thank you, aware, for the" attagirl". Realism is bitter brew to be avoided. We have a small victory here and there and treat it as a landslide. Scott Brown was the conquering hero a few months back (not mine), Now he is the equivocating, slack rope walker he needs to please various constituencies and financial backers. Bought and paid for before he got off the starting blocks. Please the voters with your words - then please your $$ backers with your vote!
Never give your heart to a politician. He/she will break it every time.
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SoCon| 6.12.10 @ 5:41PM
Human beings will break each others' hearts every time--that's why I try to stay true to my principles.
God is the only One I trust.
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