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Calvin Coolidge: His Times Are Our Times
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The Current Crisis
Provincial Times
There’s no reason to rejoice at the present sickliness of newspapers like the nerdy New York Times.
WASHINGTON — The declining state of the American newspaper apparently warms a lot of hearts. Polls tell us about the general public’s disrelish for Congress. Equally disrelished are journalists and newspapers. Frankly I sympathize. The American journalist is an odd creature. Most are as arrogant and provincial as the average American college professor. Curiously, many journalists even look like university professors, especially journalists from the major liberal newspapers.
There was a day when the average newspaper reporter was a bit of a roughneck and looked the part. Now many are frankly nerdy, though it is not their nerdy looks that inflame the general public. It is the arrogance and insularity. Well, as I say I am in sympathy with the general public, but that does not mean I rejoice in the present sickliness of newspapers. Newspapers are essential to the public discourse of any nation and to the public record.
I most recently expressed these wayward views in a discussion of the notoriously Liberal New York Times. I was being interviewed by that very fine conservative journalist Terry Jeffrey, former editor of Human Events and now editor and chief of CNS News at that bastion of conservative media bashing, the Media Research Center (MRC). Terry was delighting in regaling me with a burlesque he had observed at New York’s Penn Station. The Times was conducting a subscription drive, with an employee handing commuters gifts emblazoned with the Times logo for subscribing. Prospective subscribers treated the poor sap as though he were carrying the plague. They ducked around him, hastening down the hallway, grateful to be free of the New York Times bacterium.
Well, it is an amusing story, but there on the hallowed conservative ground of the MRC headquarters I had to express my sympathy for the glum journalists at the Times. I want the newspaper to survive. Even in its ideologically perfervid condition it is better than no newspaper at all. We conservatives have our own newspapers, led nationally by the Wall Street Journal. Actually, against mainstream Liberal media we have our own conservative counterculture led by the Journal, Fox News, talk radio, our think tanks and magazines. We can hold our own against the Kultursmog the mainstream media culture besmogged as it is by Liberal prejudice and bugaboos.
I read the Liberal press every day, the Times along with the Washington Post. What is most troubling about the Times is not its ideology or even its inaccuracies. Those of us who read widely can generally spot a newspaper’s inaccuracies. The problem with the Times is its ethics. Just the other day it claimed to have broken through its aggressive reporting a very significant story. It claimed to break the story that a Democratic Senate candidate in Connecticut, the state’s attorney general Richard Blumenthal, repeatedly made false claims about having served in combat during the Vietnam War.
Now we find out that some of the information used by the Times came from one of Blumenthal’s potential opponents, a Republican Linda McMahon. Once the story was published McMahon boasted of it. Surely it was the duty of the newspaper to inform us of its reporters’ use of McMahon’s material. For that matter surely the newspaper’s editors should have expected that McMahon would blow their cover. As I say, modern journalists tend to be arrogant and provincial. Here is a good example of it.
About the Author
R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. is the founder and editor in chief of The American Spectator. He is the author of The Death of Liberalism, published by Thomas Nelson Inc. His previous books include the New York Times bestseller Boy Clinton: the Political Biography; The Impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton; The Liberal Crack-Up; The Conservative Crack-Up; Public Nuisances; The Future that Doesn’t Work: Social Democracy’s Failure in Britain; Madame Hillary: The Dark Road to the White House; The Clinton Crack-Up; and After the Hangover: The Conservatives’ Road to Recovery.
Robbins Mitchell| 6.3.10 @ 6:11AM
Well pardon me all to hell,Bob,but I see plenty of reason to rejoice over the demise of the NYT....for years that abominable rag has acted as the house organ for every anti-American outfit it could...leaking classified documents,exposing agents,and pimping every radical cause it could....I do not share your concern over Pinchy's fish wrap
Joe| 6.3.10 @ 10:20AM
Yes. Americans are only fooling themselves if they continue to read discredited Communist, gay-agenda-promoting, Muslim sympathizing anti-American rags like the Times. This isn't just the NYT, either - it's liberal lamestream media outlets like the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, the Los Angeles Times, the Chicago Tribune, etc.
The only ethical, upstanding journalism done these days is at Fox News.
cheryl| 6.3.10 @ 6:26PM
"The only ethical, upstanding journalism done these days is at Fox News." Are you SERIOUS??? I watch regular Fox programming and can honestly say there's less "journalism" there than in my little finger! If you really believe it, good luck with that.
Stellar| 6.3.10 @ 10:26PM
Rupert Murdoch even said Fox does 'opinion' news, not actual journalism, Joe.
I mean like when is the last time you've seen journalist crying and screaming at their guest on the news? Even the Big Dog, Rush Limbaugh is a journalist?
You people are hallucinating on Rush's drug of choice.
Cletis| 6.3.10 @ 8:05PM
That's right brother, the New York Times and the Washington Post and probably Dancing With The Stars are all helping Obama paint the country pink btw PLEASE NO MORE BLACK HELCOPTERS thx.
Jim K| 6.3.10 @ 8:27PM
Well Joe:
So you think that the Wall Street Journal is liberal.
I know I am not telling you something that you
don't know but here goes: You are dumber than
a rock. Just leave your finger print next time.
Stellar| 6.3.10 @ 10:09PM
Too funny ! Keep up the good work. :)
tyler Grad| 6.3.10 @ 8:36PM
nice troll, 10/10
Pete| 6.3.10 @ 9:54PM
ROTFL!! Joe - are you really Sarah Barracuda in disguise? Fox ethical and upstanding? You are a sad sick uninformed puppy!
JoeTheDog | 6.4.10 @ 9:06AM
So now WSJ is included with lamestream liberal media (which is a cute name for it in a 12-year-old-girl sort of way)? Seems that when you consider every other new source on the planet other than FOX to be liberal, maybe it should make one question who's really out of the mainstream? Sounds like maybe liberal = reasonable and sensible?
Redskid2| 6.4.10 @ 9:32AM
Eliminationist. Label all opinions contrary to your own as "evil" by calling names so you can justify their elimination from society by any means possible. Brand them as beyond the pale and then destroy them!! Now, that's freedom and liberty for ya".
Stav| 6.4.10 @ 11:11AM
The Chicago Tribune is considered liberal? Really? It's Chicago's CONSERVATIVE newspaper.
You may want to take that foot out of your mouth now.
Dave| 6.4.10 @ 4:26PM
Hey Moron - Wall Street Journals and Fox News are both owned by Rupert Murdoch and have the same editorial policies. Have you ever actually READ any of the newspapers you just slammed, or are you just a ditto head who knows it must be true because so-and-so believes it too?
loulou| 6.3.10 @ 11:42AM
The NYT, WaPo, LAT, the Boston Globe, USA Today, etc. need to DIE. Faster, faster, die!
The Constitution| 6.6.10 @ 11:02PM
i know you conservatives love to cite the 2nd amendment cuz I'm clearly ridiculously perfect, but right before that is the 1st amendment, read that before you demand a news outlet whose opinions are not your own disappear
Nick| 6.8.10 @ 12:01AM
The First Article of Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states we all have the right to SPEAK.
Not that we have the right to be heard, or read.
Nick| 6.8.10 @ 12:05AM
Oops! That should be: "or TO BE read."
Buzz in Solvang| 6.6.10 @ 11:07PM
Joe, you really think Fauxsnooze is upstanding and ethical not to mention journalism?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh God please more laughs like this will make my weekend.
Irene| 6.5.10 @ 4:35AM
Joe, your comment says all anyone needs to know about you - you're an ass.
LisaLV| 6.5.10 @ 4:00AM
"The only ethical, upstanding journalism done these days is at Fox News."
The team at Fox News aren't journalists. They are a group of uneducated, lazy ingrates, hired by Rupert as puppets, to denigrate and lie so they may continue pretending to represent lowly people and their plights, in order to accumulate and maintain wealth. That is why Sarah Palin, Rand Paul, etc., will not go on other networks as they may challenged about, I don't know, REAL LIFE!
Talk about distancing yourself. If ANY Republican ever wish to hold office again, whether it be at the municipal level all the way up to the Federal level of government, they have to distant themselves from those that have to take notes while watching the evening news, for Pete's sake!
ffakr| 6.3.10 @ 7:07PM
By exposing agents, are you referring to blowing the cover of a covert op working to stop nuclear arms proliferation? An outing that may have cost the lives of her contacts?
What was her name... Valery Plame?
..Wait, who did that?
Nick| 6.3.10 @ 8:21PM
ffakr,
That would be her stupid husband, Joe Wilson, who put their names in "Who's Who", like a pompous jackass.
She was not "covert", by the way.
And, it was Richard Armitage who gave Plame's name to Bob Novak.
Robert D. Novak was the best reporter of the last 50 years, if not ever.
Buzz in Solvang| 6.6.10 @ 11:10PM
As usual you have no idea of what you are talking about. That LIE about Who's Who has been debunked years ago. Try another HONEST talking point. Bob Novak was an idiot. He may have been a good reported once upon a time but he became just another rightwing hack.
And yes she was covert. Amazing how you trolls believe everything Worldnutdaily or Fauxsnooze or El Rushbo tell you.
Nick| 6.8.10 @ 12:03AM
Buzz,
You are so stupid, it takes you two hours to watch "60 Minutes."
Alan| 6.4.10 @ 2:45PM
Still upset over the penagon papers? Poor baby. Its only been, what, forty years? Glad it still eats at ya.
Alex| 6.5.10 @ 12:21PM
A crime was committed, by the government, but conservatives are perfectly content with that. A much lesser offense was committed in releasing and publishing the papers that proved this crime. In other circles, the conservative defense of this government crime goes by the name of fascism.
Funny how they hate the government when a Democrat is in charge, but they'll defend any crime it commits when those crimes are committed by a Republican or his peons.
Kelly Staples| 6.3.10 @ 6:54AM
Why do some folks insist on calling the pinko press the "mainstream media?' Does that mean that those of us who see through the left-wing lies, propaganda, and calumnies are outside the "mainstream?" To heck with Pinchy's rag.
Eileen| 6.3.10 @ 6:35PM
YES.
Kenny| 6.3.10 @ 7:32AM
The sooner the NY Times, the mother of all leftwing rags dies, the better.
Ret. Marine| 6.3.10 @ 8:01AM
Hear, hear
Redskid2| 6.4.10 @ 9:01AM
Yeah, because we sure don't want to allow dissenting voices to speak up with their opposing points of view. Squelch 'em. Shut 'em down. There's only one right way to view things, by golly, and we need to make sure news is presented ONLY through the proper lense, a carefully scrutinized and approved mouthpiece, a single perspective. Now THAT'S American.
Ray| 6.4.10 @ 11:06AM
Who's shutting down the NYT's, other than its former subscribers? The NYT's, like a lot of print news sources, is dying of old age. There's plenty of opposing points of view available to anyone who desires them, it's just the MEDIA that is changing. Out with the old, in with the new. Some would call that progress.
Redskid2| 6.4.10 @ 1:08PM
Uh huh. It's not the mechanism, Ray, it's the sentiment behind it. And you darn well know it. Read ALL the posts on here.
Gartimon| 6.5.10 @ 12:35PM
Interesting… The difference is I don’t think we are concerned with sentiment, because it holds no bearing in the real world. Would FOX get any love if it crumbled, no. I wouldn’t expect any, and it wouldn’t hurt my feelings if it didn’t.
How is anything else important besides the mechanism? Everything else is despicable liberal drivel, and its only opinion.
I’m sorry if my opinion doesn’t suit your needs…. I guess?
Le Cracquere| 6.3.10 @ 8:15AM
So disinformation and propaganda are better than no information at all? Check.
Gr0w1er| 6.3.10 @ 12:34PM
Spoken like a truly useful idiot.
Le Cracquere| 6.4.10 @ 7:38AM
I've graduated to "USEFUL"? The family will be so proud...
(Also, you might want to recheck the context of my statement and ask whether you aren't calling in an airstrike on your own side.)
Howard| 6.3.10 @ 8:21AM
I agree with most of the commenter s. The NYT has lost much if not most of its credibility. The editorial page influences too much of the news component. And the ethical lapses are too serious to sniff at. I would prefer to see an internal revolution change the paper for the better. Barring that, then RIP.
ffakr| 6.3.10 @ 7:11PM
I agree completely. Just in the past few weeks, the NYT has repeatedly refused to retract false stories about ACORN after it had been demonstrated in multiple investigations that they did not break the law.. that O'Keffe "heavily edited" his videos.. that he lied about what he was wearing.. that they slandered people like the guy in California who appeared to cooperate to call the police immediately after O'Keefe left.
After inquiry after inquiry, the only correction the Times deemed to release was a half-hearted 'whoops'.
JoeT| 6.3.10 @ 8:06PM
And you are certain of this ACORN-related information because you saw it where?
Pn| 6.5.10 @ 3:45PM
Everywhere but Murdock pubs... now why is that?
Buzz in Solvang| 6.6.10 @ 11:14PM
Oh puhleeze, after the courts saw through the lies of that idiot O'keefe, no charges were brought of any kind. O'Keefe was a liar and a useful idiot to the rightwing "press" like Fauxsnooze and El Rushbo. They were not even interested in whether or not it had been edited, they just wanted to get rid of an outfit that registered lower income, elderly and others who were not registered.
BUT as usual the rightwing was having absolutely NOTHING to do with the truth. The truth to conservatives is like sunlight to vampires.
Ninja| 6.7.10 @ 6:27PM
ACORN calls police on O'Keefe
http://mediamatters.org/research/200909170031
O'Keefe not dressed as pimp in front of ACORN staff
http://mediamatters.org/columns/201002230024
Anything else?
Ninja| 6.7.10 @ 6:28PM
You might not trust fully sourced stories to anything but Faux News, so here you go:
http://www.foxnews.com/printer.....23,00.html
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 6.3.10 @ 9:01AM
The editor of the TAS should be more philosophical as opposed to rejecting the reality of the situation.
The American public has rejected liberalism and is not as stupid as many think, therefore the papers are failing because they are simply trying to sell a defective product.
Like all other markets, information is valuable. When anyone continually lies to the American public sooner or later they are found out and the market forces render those sources obsolete.
So, in fact, you should wish for the demise of these gargantuan lie machines, particularly the New York Times. It proves that capitalism works, but even more important, it proves that the American public is smarter than many believe.
Redskid2| 6.4.10 @ 9:06AM
I love this self-reinforcing perception that so many right-wingers have that "America is rejecting liberalism" and such, that they arrive at only because they perpetually seek information from right-wing news sources that repeat that supposition over and over. There's plenty of folks rejecting right-wing hysteria and disinformation, too.
Bill Husein O'Stalin| 6.4.10 @ 11:49AM
It's not self-reinforcing. It's proved by simple economics. Liberal radio stations fail by the dozens. Air America is a perfect example. Liberal newspapers are being closed at a healthy rate because the public rejects their lies. Money talks and BS walks!
Redskid2| 6.4.10 @ 1:15PM
Have you considered other reasons for failed radio shows? Perhaps people whose political opinions don't happen to coincide with your own don't need a single voice (or two) on the radio telling them what to think. Perhaps people whose opinions don't coincide with your own are reading. Perhaps they're online at the American Spectator website trying to make sure they've got a handle on all kinds of points of view, different perspectives, interpretations of events, etc. Perhaps Keith Olbermann on TV is enough. (kidding!) Trust me, just because right wing voices are strident and angry doesn't mean they're the only voices.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 6.4.10 @ 3:13PM
The only anger I see here is liberal posters like you. Facts don't matter and only appear to make you upset. The market has rejected liberalism and I predict many big channel news shows will be gone within the next 4 years.
Buzz in Solvang| 6.6.10 @ 11:20PM
Funny thing about the so called rejection of the "market" whatever that is, seems not to have worked when Obama won by more votes than all the other votes combined.
BUT thing to remember is that McDonalds is the biggest selling perveyor of food on the Earth. They sell more food than anyone at any given moment.
Does that mean it's the best food? That all other food should be rejected simply because they outsell health food stores?
So tell us, does that mean, that now that you know that will you only eat at McDonalds because the market place has spoken?
See we liberals don't need talk radio because WE ARE WORKING, we get out news from a wide variety of outlets, Newspapers, online, various news shows and news magazines, while the number one listeners to hate radio, aka, conservative radio are usually unemployed, or elderly sitting on the porch chairs yelling at kids to get off their lawns and klan members and for gummint to get out of their lives...except for the Social Security checks which conservatives have been trying to get rid of for 6 decades, and Medicare which Saint Ronnie Raygun said was going to lead to the downfall of America and lead us straight into communism and now universal healthcare which those same "gummint stay out of our lives" conservatives are feeding off the gummint teat.
So which are you?
Gartimon| 6.5.10 @ 12:48PM
If Americans aren't rejecting liberalism, then what are they rejecting? Possibly misinformation?
And 75% of the people who reject right wing media are told to do so. This is one reason why "useful idiots" illutrates many liberal voters.
Buzz in Solvang| 6.6.10 @ 11:25PM
Nah the only useful idiots are the cons who buy into fear mongering, drill baby drill (and then watch as the environment is destroyed) And funny thing is that the only people being told to reject anything liberal are being told that by El Rushb, Fauxsnooze, Worldnutdaily. Free Republic ad nauseum.
The lies told which appeal to emotion rather than to intellect are all told to the rightwingers. The best example of that is the so called death panel idiocy pushed by Moosejaw Barbie Palin who just outright lied and the cons continued that lie even though they knew it was an outright lie. WHILE ignoring that insurance companies, which they were defending with all their might, actually have death panels costing the lives of at least 45 thousand Americans every year.
So who's buying BS and who isn't cuz it sure looks like you cons are conned every minute of every day. Remember Truthiness which you cons believe in, is not real.
But then again, Truth to cons is like sunlight to vampires.
Betsy Ross| 6.7.10 @ 9:49PM
I find it very illuminating that every Conservative person you disparage by profaning their name. Is this hate speech?
When you fill up your car and drive to work for an evil Capitalist, do you use oil?
You might want to check you facts on Insurance companies, they donate to Democrats also.
And if you really believe that "death panels" will not be part of Obama care, LOL. At some point everyone has a "value". Do you still drive the same car, or have you "means tested" and junked it? If you then tell me that the government cares more then your insurance company, why I would answer would a company that has free competition, not have more interest in you then a monopoly government run company?
And of course you then close by calling people "cons" I ask is this sort of a "racism" with you?
Love a debate
Hate the bluster
R. Folsom | 6.5.10 @ 11:45AM
"The American public is smarter than many believe...? Then, why did they elect Obama?
Gartimon| 6.5.10 @ 12:52PM
Because they were lied to, and they are continuously being lied to in most of the speeches and statements O'Bummer makes. Americans rejects socialist ideas, they can only be passed thru deception. Sadly the American people give their trust too easily to elected officials.
Pn| 6.5.10 @ 3:54PM
You mean like the truthful George "We don't torture" Bush.
Open your eyes. You folks represent AT MOST 30% of the electorate. The stupid 30%...
the willfully ignorant, uneducated, STUPID 30%!
Buzz in Solvang| 6.6.10 @ 11:32PM
Oh puhleeze. The only lies were being told nonstop by the republicans aka Thug party which has no ability to tell the truth with a gun to their heads.
Truth will make their heads explode.
Truth to cons is like sunlight to vampires. They scream and scurry back into the darkness to continue their lies and character assassination.
Obama is still the best president we have had in a very long time. There isn't even a hint of anyone who can run against him. Whoever does will be the Bob Dole of the election in 2012 and that will hilarious. I hope they run Palin/Bachmann. Obama will win by the largest landslide in the history of America.
And as far as too easily trusting. Do tell us again about all those WMD found in Iraq and the thousands of American lives and tens if not hundreds of thousands of other innocent lives not to mention the trillions in American treasure lost?
Or how the Thug party wants to give Social Security to Wall Street and stop medicare and how they desperately want NO controls or regulations on any corporation in America screaming that corporations are our buddies and would never screw over Americans, or anyone else. And have only the best interests in the health of American workers and the environment.
And you do know that the worst republican in years, Phil Gramm pushed through the repeal of the Glass Steagal act which allowed Wall Street to almost destroy America in it's headlong rush to be even greedier than before?
Yeah tell us about the credibility of the Thug party some more.
Steve G| 6.3.10 @ 9:03AM
Yes. We should have a NYTimes. Just not that NYTimes.
Warren Waldmann| 6.3.10 @ 9:32AM
Dear Mr. Tyrrell,
It is better to have a newspaper run unethically than to have no newspaper at all? You jest, right?
Chalkdust| 6.3.10 @ 9:36AM
My goodness Tyrrell, getting all blubbery about the demise of Pravda East and not single word about the slow death rattle of the Washington Times, the finest major newspaper in America.
vonBeavis| 6.4.10 @ 5:01AM
You folks are truly mad. Facts mean nothing to you. The WaTimes is a POS rag that was propped up with millions for years--it sucked, as does faux news, yet you all act as if you'd just sniffed the reeking buns of Angel and acted as if it was cocaine.
Buzz in Solvang| 6.6.10 @ 11:33PM
The WT the finest newspaper in America???
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That rag had the credibility of Fauxsnooze. OH YEAH I forgot you people think Fakenews is honest, hardworking and unbiased.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You cons are too funny.
Totto| 6.7.10 @ 12:50PM
Buzz, Absolutely right! Laughing at these poor suckers is really the only way to deal with 'em. They are the losers outside of the Revival Meeting tent who line up to buy the "Magick Elixir". Fools!
owyheewine| 6.3.10 @ 9:43AM
Alas, Mr. Tyrrell is not as brilliant as I had previously believed. After I read NY Times stories and columnists 3 times, I found I could predict down the the smallest fact what the whole piece would say. Bob still feels the need to read the drivel daily. Pity.
Anthony| 6.3.10 @ 10:11AM
Wow!! Way left on this one Bob. To bemoan the demise of the Times and the Wa Po is to feel a bit sorry for the cancer cells that chemo has destroyed.
As you know better than any of us, the demise of our American culture has been, to a major extent, promulgaged by the elite media. Furthermore, to say that conservative media can now act as a sufficient counter-weight agaisnt the leftist MSM flies in the face of reality. The MSM's treatment of TAS is a wonderful example of how the MSM marginalizes all conservative media. We are still in an uphill battle with no end in sight.
In addition to all this, the Times & other leftist rags, have not only committed treason during war, they have routinely misled and lied to Americans about the state of their country. This is unforgivable.
You can bemoan the current state of the MSM and the damage they has done to us as Americans, as well as hope for a sea change that will bring them back to their professional code of objective news reporting, but unless and until that happens, may they RIP. Hopefully, out of their ashes will come a renewed sense of professionalism..
Redskid2| 6.4.10 @ 9:28AM
There. Another fine example of eliminationism. Brand the opposition as "treasonous" in order to delegitimize them, and then it's okay to go to any length to "eliminate" them. And then, ba-da-bing! No more having to listen, debate, compromise, learn. So much easier that way!
Yuggles| 6.4.10 @ 8:54PM
I do not understand how you can be both incredibly popular with a large segment of the U.S. population, and outside of the mainstream.
Gartimon| 6.5.10 @ 12:59PM
You sir, are unbearable. No one is eliminating anyone, they have eliminated themselves.
How does the death of NYT mean the end of debate, statists still have control over every major network. You exist in an alternative universe, where words and context have little to no value.
Yuggles| 6.5.10 @ 11:16PM
Well, as someone else pointed out, new media is more of an actual threat to newspaper journalism than any percieved bias. They aren't killing themselves with leftist retohoric or anything silly like that. It's an old paper with a long reputation of quality journalism, but people are getting their news for free. Online blogs and news aggregaters are pulling readers from the newspapers, which is coupled with dwindling add revenue. I mean it's not like the NYT is the only paper having a hard time right now, many "liberal" and "conservative" papers are either going under or in threat of going under financially.
Buzz in Solvang| 6.6.10 @ 11:39PM
Yeah right, that the "leftist" rags are the reason America has become what you think is less of itself. Funny but the nonstop lies, character assassination, elimination of the truth, fear mongering, and outright BS by outlets like Fakenews, El Rushbo, Free Republic, Birthers, deathers, Joe the (not) plumber, Moosejaw Barbie and a host of other liars of whom the truth is as dangerous as sunlight to vampires to you cons is what is helping to swing America back to where it belongs, which to anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together mean you want to take us back a few centuries where truth means nothing but truthiness is all that matters.
AND this is what you want for America? LIES by the rightwing.
IF the rightwing ever told the truth there wouldn't be dozens if not hundreds of websites dedicated to showing their lies. And the right lies like cheap rugs.
So spare us the nonstop thug party talking points. Lies do not become a true America, not that cons have any idea of what that means.
Petronius| 6.3.10 @ 10:11AM
The worst aspect of the 4th estate is their claim to the power of state without the mandate. These snotty bastards hold themselves above us all with their faux omnipotence and their assumption that the rest of the world excepting elected officials they control, can't possibly know anything. We have the Piss Disgrace which is so bad, the only thing they don't spin is the obit section. And I'm not going to rip Bob for doing this piece because he's right. Keep the NY Times on life support so that America can see these info-weasels not doing their jobs. Right now it is necessary that they remain in public view. And on the day when we manage to elect a truly conservative government, we can see them indicted for treason, tried, convicted, and executed.
tfgray| 6.4.10 @ 1:45AM
"And on the day when we manage to elect a truly conservative government, we can see them indicted for treason, tried, convicted, and executed. "
Obviously you support the Constitution. I just can't figure our whether it's the Nazi constiution or the Soviet one.
Irene| 6.5.10 @ 4:51AM
Your comment shows that you are a true inductee into the Fox worldview. The NYT is still the premier news source around the world and is not going anywhere.
This is still a free America and I defend your right to continue to spew your idiocy.
Nick| 6.7.10 @ 11:52PM
Yes, Jason Blair was the prime example of the type of reporting the New York Slimes practice.
Because all liberals are liars.
Ray| 6.3.10 @ 10:23AM
Bemoaning the "demise" of Newspapers? Why? Newsprint is being replaced with electronic media. Electrons are replacing ink, and screens are replacing paper. Journalism itself is't in danger of disappearing, it's just that the media of exchange is, well, changing to a modern, more convenient format. I no more morn the loss of newsprint than I would morn the loss of clay tables as a medium of information exchange.
Margie| 6.4.10 @ 2:02PM
My thoughts, precisely!
Pn| 6.5.10 @ 4:04PM
I wish I could agree. I believe we have been watching the demise of journalism for quite awhile now, particularly in the broadcast media. Their desire to not offend (other than faux of course) has led to a false equivalency. Sometimes there isn't another side. Sometimes one side is just wrong. Broadcasters rarely present facts, they present sides to my regret.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.3.10 @ 10:35AM
Folks,
Mr. Tyrrell...
May just be acting the part of a "gracious winner".
(smile)
I of course do not know the readership numbers of Am Spec, but I do know I "donate" to the online version every month, and I hope each of you will too.
I wonder if more people read Am Spec than read the pundits/reporters at the Times.
Finally, the overriding LIE that the Times perpetrates...is NOT reporting the news events that conflict with their propaganda machine.
Yes...may it RIP, or burn in Hell, as the case may be.
Bob Miller| 6.3.10 @ 10:36AM
There should be a market for a truthful national newspaper, if someone wants to try this new concept.
confused| 6.3.10 @ 10:50AM
When all you get from a newspaper is rot, lies and treason why bother? These newspapers can lead many people astray and also makes it harder to correct the damned lies. Die baby die.
L. E. Powers| 6.3.10 @ 11:05AM
I am amazed by my fellow readers. I had to re-read to be sure I didn't misunderstand. In a free society, we need vigorous discussion by (and with) all points of view. That many in the left have proverbially checked their ethics at the door, resulting in their declining credibility is what Mr. Tyrell is lamenting.
Just because liberals/progressives tend to only have one solution to any problem doesn't mean that there is never any merit to their concerns. As conservatives, we understand that government is usually a last resort solution for most problems, and that the Federal government is supposed to be constitutionally one of limited and enumerated powers. But a viverant discussion can lead to innovative private sector solutions that exceed
what any one side could conceive without the dialetic.
So, let's not cheer for the potential loss of a dialog, but rather cheer when unethical shysters go out of business.
Matt| 6.3.10 @ 11:52AM
what a joker! There are PLENTY of left wing newspapers still available, but those that make no money should fail. If people don't want to read the NY Times propaganda, they won't. Its called Capitalism--good riddance!
bob serna | 6.4.10 @ 1:51AM
its called capitalism when you make money, but when you have to be bailed out its called socialisim
Nick| 6.3.10 @ 7:20PM
L. E. Powers,
Honest, legitimate debate is fine.
However, we must engage in too much illegitimate debate today. Like what is "good" and "evil." Abortion; same-gender, fake marriage; euthanasia; freedom of religion, speech, and conscience; are what we waste our time arguing about these days.
It is the debates between conservatives, libertarians, and neo-conservatives, for the most part, that have had merit for the past few decades. Not anything the left has put forth as an argument.
Margie| 6.3.10 @ 9:16PM
Neo conservative is a phony term coughed up by Libertarians and Paul-bots and Paleo cons. It is a derogatory term and I refuse to accept it. They cannot redefine what conservatives to suit their Liberal leanings!
Nick| 6.3.10 @ 11:49PM
Hi Margie!
I meant neoconservative as Irving Kristol used the term, "a liberal who has been mugged by reality."
Not the derogatory "neo-con" that paleos use with invective.
Hope your mother-in-law is doing well.
God Bless!
Margie| 6.4.10 @ 1:02PM
I see. Well, like Johnny Carson used to say, "I did not know this."
But why the neo? I always thought the saying went, "A conservative is a Liberal who was mugged by reality."
I now have an utter disdain toward that term when used because of the Toddards of the world.
Mother-in-law's kidneys are failing, and her Diabetes is out of control. Short of God's healing her, I am afraid she won't be with us much longer. I've been praying for this miracle, and hoping it would be His will. All we can do is ask.
Pray for Julia, a most precious and beautiful soul, just one of the many who suffered under the Nazi's and spent the entire time of the war in a camp, (Volkswagon), along with other starving youth. She was taken from an idyllic farm life living in her home in Russia, thrown into the back of a truck with other girls, at age 16, and hauled off. Till the Brits liberated them. Thank you, Brits!
She's had a wonderful life in the U.S. after first going to Canada after the war and waiting on a list for TEN years to come here. She met her husband in Canada, where they had my husband, who you know here, Victor. He became an engineer and held many and various patents for all kinds of things, including a machine that made rifle butts.
When he came here he got a letter from Stalin "encouraging" him to return to Russia. He had been an honor student at Stalin's academy but later fought against the Nazi's, himself being shot down and captured, but later escaping by bribing the guard with his Stalin academy watch. He wrote back to Stalin saying he will NEVER return to Russia, that America is is home! Julia told me that Stalin went and scratched his name off of the wall of the academy where his name was an an honor student. I said to her that that is an honor in itself that he did that!
So, thank you for asking, Nick.
God bless you too.
Margie| 6.4.10 @ 2:09PM
Oops. It wasn't a machine that made rifle butts, it was a machine that stamped an engraving on the rifle butt. (Winchester Western.)
Nick| 6.4.10 @ 2:31PM
Margie,
Julia is in my prayers. What an extraordinary person, and life.
Victor and I have something in common!
My late mother was Canadian, making me half-Canadian. Her grandparents came from Poland and Britain, though.
Margie| 6.4.10 @ 4:44PM
Nick,
Thank you so much for your prayers.
Ah, part Canadian, well me too. I've been told some Dutch and Indian too. So sorry your Mom is no longer here on this earth. Both my parents still are, Dad's almost 80 and Mom's not far behind. I know I won't be able to bear it when they go.
Yes, Vic came to the U.S. when he was 5. And interestingly enough, both sides of my own family ancestry also come from Canada. A few generations back, though. I have Relatives in Montreal and Quebec I've never even met.
I've spoken of my Canadian French Grandmother here before, who was a big time Catholic. We never ever quibbled though. We just both knew that each other believed in Jesus and that is what mattered. She lived to be 92. My Dad grew up learning both Canadian French and English.
Vic grew up learning English and Russian. I will not even try to learn it! But I do love that accent that Julia still has. She gets a kick out of it when I try and immitate it. "The birrrds in the booshes werrre makink a lot of noise and so Nick, (her husband's name too!) threw hiss shoe at them." :^). She was from the Belarus area. His Dad, Leningrad.
From all of these I wouldn't even be surprised if somehow some of us were related!
Nick| 6.4.10 @ 5:27PM
Margie,
I wouldn't be surprised either!
Some of my Polish ancestors were from the east side of Poland. I believe close to Belarus.
We Slavs are everywhere!
Redskid2| 6.4.10 @ 9:22AM
Aah, but WHO decides what is "illegitimate debate?" You? Why? Have you ever heard the term "eliminationist?" Google it, and see if you might recognize any tendencies towards
"persistent ideas and rhetoric that champion the elimination of opposition groups." Oh yes, and then there's this: "The opposition must not simply be opposed, but our very survival depends on his utter destruction and removal as a threat. This is, of course, not merely not discourse, but the very death of it. There is no exchange of ideas, only the destruction of the opposition."
Nick| 6.4.10 @ 2:42PM
Redskid2,
No, I don't decide. These questions were settled over a millenia ago. When Christianity civilized the Roman Empire.
There are topics that ARE NOT debatable. Or, are you arguing that everything is on the table, open for discussion?
If so, would you like to take the "pro" side of the following topic: Resolved, the nazis were justified in using mass-murder against their enemies.
Yuggles| 6.4.10 @ 9:17PM
The Roman Empire fell, it wasn't converted... they were a civilization long before Christ was born... Christianity wasn't wide spread, or very influencial until Byzantine made it the national religion in what was the of the hub of western civilization... then of course the crusades.
Nick| 6.5.10 @ 12:26PM
The Romans might have been a civilization, but they were hardly civilized. At least not in the Christian sense of the word. Especially at the end.
Not that they didn't have their good points. Which the Christians kept and preserved. Like Charlemagne and the Holy Roman Empire.
Irene| 6.5.10 @ 5:03AM
Oh, you have got to be kidding. The debate of conservatives for the past few decades has been the old divide of the culture wars - abortion, gays, guns, fear-mongering and hypocritical 'values'. And it continues today more than ever with the stupidity of Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, et.al.
Please name conservative leaders that speak about ideas and solutions rather than attacks and opposition. They lie to you about protecting Main Street and then oppose putting restrictions on Wall Street. They obstruct and water down every meaningful piece of legislation that might benefit the middle class. The GOP, hypocrites or cowards sums them up. The whole bunch disgusts me.
Totto| 6.6.10 @ 10:23PM
Irene, thanks for a bit of sanity on an insane website. Remember, it's the people with real power and money, that control this planet. The ultra-right, like Murdoch, play the game of pitting conservatives and liberals against each other, and unfortunately, there are those who play one side against the other, no matter the politics, if they find it financially advantageous, like Limbaugh or Beck. They don't believe a word they are saying. There are those on the right, who really would like a world of authoritarian certitude, because their fragile psyches find diversity and complexity to be unsettling. As sociopaths, they really do see fellow human beings as disposable, and do not believe that they, personally, belong to "the family of man" They are delusional.
PolishKnight| 6.3.10 @ 11:05AM
It's not like celebrating the death of cancer cells due to chemo. It's more like celebrating the death of a vampire due to running out of healthy blood donors. They did it to themselves.
Newspapers used to carry useful information along with stimulating articles. The NYT is a victim of it's own success at eliminating opposition viewpoints. Why does even a liberal need to read opinions they have established as mainstream? Nothing is more boring than a revolutionary who clings to their status quo.
The NYT and other journalists did their best to subvert even the limited use of a newspaper, as a "record" held by libraries, into a revisionist rag where they rewrite history. Sorry, but I would rather have NO record than a lie.
New media means that libraries need to no longer be physical but rather virtual and store blogs and online newspapers. That way, a multitude of different perspectives will be available for generations.
Anyways, I had a similar experience to the one described by Bob. I was at a grocery store and we saw a contest to win a car. I signed up and it turned out to be a subscription drive for the Washington Post. I didn't treat her like a plague victim, but pointed out that I had no use for the written newspaper. I preferred to read articles from a variety of sources online. She then suggested the sunday paper. Remember the sunday paper? Comics and ads galore. Except I get both of those online too without the hassle of having to throw out 90% of the paper as fluff.
Richard| 6.3.10 @ 11:13AM
Sir, you don't need to read the NYT to know what liberals are saying. Just pick one of their cohorts at Time, NBC, etc. and it doesn't matter which one. It is as if liberal "reporters" are cloned anew each day.
dw| 6.3.10 @ 11:55AM
No matter what, there is no room or reason for an unethical, american bashing, unobjective purveyor of lies and deciet peddling their rag in this country. We already have the democrats for that.
They are not credible.
jr| 6.3.10 @ 8:12PM
I agree. Down with Fox news and the Wall Street Journal.
Redskid2| 6.4.10 @ 9:23AM
A fine example of "eliminationism."
Peter McGrath| 6.3.10 @ 12:16PM
"I had to express my sympathy for the glum journalists at the Times. I want the newspaper to survive. Even in its ideologically perfervid condition it is better than no newspaper at all."
This sort of sentimental wistful thinking, coming from Tyrell, is unseemly. The Times will fail. Its ideological bias sealed its fate. And, no, Mr. Tyrell, we don't need the Times around as a counterweight to the limited conservative media. The Times deserves to be snuffed out. It is a propogandistic organ masquerading as a "news" paper which has repeatedly wrought harm upon our republic. The Times' distortions and omissions contributed mightily to the rise of the current POTUS, a committed leftist actively engaged in the subversion of our Constitution and way of life.
Sorry, Bob, you lost me on this one. Good riddance to the Times, and the bow-tied, elitist scum on their editorial board and news division who intentionally lie, over and over and over again, to the American people.
Totto| 6.6.10 @ 3:00PM
"a committed leftist actively engaged in the subversion of our Constitution and way of life." Poor Peter really is delusional and, of course, he ends it with calling decent, hard-working people, "scum". Since Germany in the twenties and thirties, this has always been the way with the right. Hate, fear, and paranoia, the life's blood of fascism.
Nick| 6.7.10 @ 11:48PM
Germany was run by lefties, Totto. They were National socialists.
BHG| 6.3.10 @ 2:47PM
I think he's having us on. He's hoping a new buyer will see sound economic reasons for a return to credible journalism (enough with the plagiarism scandals, Punch!)? Right? Wrong!
Punch won't sell to anyone who doesn't share his ideology. Sadly, he and ilk don't even see their own bias. It's not that they haven't been told, eiither.
What on earth can you do with people who lack such elementary self-awareness? You don't trust their judgment so you don't buy or read their newspaper.
PolishKnight| 6.3.10 @ 3:24PM
Maybe, BHG, he's hoping to egg Punch on to stubbornly hold onto his newspaper and go broke rather than sell.
Then Fox can pick it up for pennies on the dollar.
Imagine... a rebranded liberal journal with conservative ideals. "Global warming doesn't exist. I read in the Times so it has to be true"
Hmmm, that's another good reason to kill this head vampire: Just like in the movies when you kill the head vampire the others die, Wash Post, Philly Inquirer, etc. all get their leads from the NYT. Cut off the head, and the rest won't know what to do.
FlaJim| 6.3.10 @ 5:03PM
Agreed. Methinks Mr Tyrrell is playing devil's advocate here. Why read the NYT or Wa Po for anything other than its entertainment value, i.e what are these boobs up to today?
The NYT, in particular, has been defrauding the public since at least the 30's when they sent a 'journalist,' Durant, to the USSR to gush over the 'success' of their latest 5 year plan even while he personally witnessed the intentional starving of the millions of kulaks in the Ukraine.
Jim O'Brien| 6.3.10 @ 3:31PM
When a student I read the NYT rag religiously, but the NY Herald Tribune was a much better paper. Actually, I once interviewed for a job at the NY Times, but they turned me down, probably because I had just come back from serving in Vietnam. I guess they sensed that I wouldn't be a good fit .... too much knowledge about the war?
Bob S| 6.3.10 @ 4:55PM
Mr. Tyrrell- can't believe you didn't mention the Washington Times as one of our (and one of our best) conservative newspapers!
tf gray| 6.4.10 @ 1:51AM
Owned by the Reverend Sun Moon, whose religion preaches that one is cleansed of original sin by having sex with either himself, or someone who has had sex with him. Who believes that he is better than Jesus, because Jesus left no off spring, while he, Moon, has 13?
Larry m| 6.3.10 @ 5:40PM
What a bunch of anti-American idiots!
What a great American notion..get rid of any publication that may a slant that differs from ours.
Go to China or Russia or Cuba or hey how about Iran? If not, listen to Beck or Limbaugh or Fox News till your ears bleed. It's easier than reading an opposing viewpoint.
Eileen | 6.3.10 @ 6:43PM
Shhhh Larry, don't disturb them from the cozy little bubble that they cocoon themselves in.. They get all agitated and confused when rattled by opposing views. (and you don't want to see them after they get worked into a lather, (imagine the tea baggers)
Ray| 6.4.10 @ 11:31AM
Shhhh Eileen, don't remind Larry that Newspapers are declining due to the evolving nature of media that no one is trying to "get rid" of them, other than their former subscribers. It's much easier to blame others for change that is occurring, one that is inevitable due to the inflexible, non-interactive nature of printed media. Let's just continue whistling past the newsprint graveyard, and ignore the rise of interactive media, shall we?
Margie| 6.3.10 @ 6:24PM
Eh, Mr. Tyrrell's entitled to his opinion and allowed to feel the way he does! (I can see him saying, "oh gee, thanks for "allowing me.." etc.).
Some people like the Times.. to me it's like cheap entertainment or like watching a Hollywood movie. You know it's a lie but you watch it anyway because it's a brief respite from the daily grind. Hey, there's always the Style section, or the food section in the Times, right?
I actually don't read any newspaper so I must be really weird, huh? I have radio and the net. All the news that's truly fit to "print!"
Nyuk, nyuk.
Totto| 6.3.10 @ 6:45PM
To read the comments here is to begin to comprehend the rage and fear that afflicts the right-wing. So terribly sad, and so terribly sick.
Margie| 6.3.10 @ 7:13PM
Nah Totto, that would be the Left's affliction that you're talking about.
Rage that they're losing their battle over the hearts and minds of the people.
Fear over same.
Terribly sad & sick is the Leftist way of thinking and way of life.
Bye bye NYT...?
Totto| 6.3.10 @ 7:37PM
Simple projection, Margie. Therapy indicated.
DonDuke | 6.3.10 @ 8:33PM
So transparent Totto..... and so typically leftwing.... "Simple projection, Margie. Therapy indicated.".... when in doubt call them names..... that'll shut them up. Too funny and really sad.... go back to the Huffington post ... it suits you much better.
Tyler Grad| 6.3.10 @ 8:46PM
You're a poop head, so shut up.
Ellipsis Rule!| 6.3.10 @ 9:05PM
Your overuse is ellipsis is typically.... moron.
That's right! It's smarty pants leftwing humor!
Totto| 6.3.10 @ 9:23PM
Just look at yourselves. Foul mouthed nasty children.
Totto| 6.4.10 @ 7:19PM
You have a beautiful family. You are barely in the middle class and you continue to vote against your best interests. Remember to blame the Democrats, instead of the right's beloved multinational corporations, as your ability to afford your minimal standard of living becomes more and more difficult. Your sarcasm represents misplaced fury at the life you think "liberals" have caused you to live. Truth is, big money owns you and owns this country, and they couldn't care less about you or your family. BP's calamity (approved by and and deregulated by Bush/Cheney) demonstrates just how little trans-nationals care about you and your family.
victor| 6.4.10 @ 8:02PM
Totto:
"you continue to vote against your best interests."
My best interests? What would that be?
I've been out of work for a year and my best interest is to be working.
What is Obama doing to further my end, eh?
"Remember to blame the Democrats,"
They are the one's who are keeping everyone on the dole, aren't they? with 99 weeks unemployment?
"Truth is, big money owns you"
Really? what are they getting for their investment right now?
"BP's calamity (approved by and and deregulated by Bush/Cheney)"
This was an accident, how do you "regulate" accidents,, eh?
BTW, GW and Cheney have not been in power for 16 months,
what has your boy Barry been doing for all this time?
Totto| 6.4.10 @ 9:46PM
It was an "accident" that could have been avoided had a relief well been drilled simultaneously to the primary well as is required in other countries. Not here though, as Cheney specified that it "wasn't necessary" as he also did with an acoustic shutoff valve. Keep believing your Fox News Fantasy and smile at how clever your snotty comments are, little children. According to "prominent" Republican politicians, you like being unemployed and live quite a luxurious life on unemployment. Why don't you ask them about the trade deals that have covered our industrial production in cosmoline and shipped our jobs overseas. Oh, I guess that must have been Obama, right? But he's only been President for a year and a half and 'ol George was there for eight. Complete waste of time writing to the brain dead.
victor| 6.5.10 @ 10:42PM
totto:
"According to "prominent" Republican politicians, you like being unemployed and live quite a luxurious life on unemployment."
Care to name them Big Boy?
According to what I have read the WashPo, NySlimes and the LATimes have all written how Glorious it is to be out of work.
Totto| 6.6.10 @ 12:23PM
Go to: http://www.washingtonmonthly.c.....022655.php
victor| 6.6.10 @ 7:08PM
Totto:
"www.washingtonmonthly"
The "guy" who runs this is a Flamin' Liberal.
That's your that's your "republican" source?
HuffPo, AirAmerica, Saloon?
Totto| 6.6.10 @ 9:15PM
I'm sure you can look it up in your "trusted" fascist media, VictorVictoria! God, you people are nuts!
Irene| 6.5.10 @ 5:17AM
For the last 16 months our President has been cleaning up the big effing mess left by the previous administration. With nothing but continual obstruction and criticism from your party and people like you.
And make up your minds about what you want from your government. You scream for them to get out of everything and then you scream 'where are they' when the shit hits the fan. Bunch of whiny babies unhappy with everything. And BPs calamity was not an accident - they made a corporate decision that 500k was too much to invest in safety of the operation and drilled anyway without implementing the safeguards which were only a fraction of their billions in profits. People like you are so manipulated and ill-informed - must be your news sources.
Nick| 6.5.10 @ 12:08PM
You think this is obstruction?
Wait until January 3rd, 2011. You ain't seen nothing yet!
victor| 6.6.10 @ 12:01AM
Ilene:
"And make up your minds about what you want from your government. "
I want the government to do what is mandated in Article I, section 8:
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof."
"You scream for them to get out of everything and then you scream 'where are they' when the shit hits the fan."
Nobody, but you whiny baby Liberals were screaming that.
" And BPs calamity was not an accident - they made a corporate decision that 500k was too much to invest in safety of the operation"
And you know this how?
You were in those meetings, perhaps?
You know as much about drilling for oil as your Boy King does.
Zip, Zero, Nada!
Margie| 6.5.10 @ 1:43PM
I do not vote against my best interests. The Democrat party is like the party of Stalin to me. I know all about the tactics of the Stalinistic party. You speak for them. No more would I cast a vote for that stinking party than I would sell my soul to keep quiet about it.
The Republican party is the party of freedom, it is the party of real American values, limited government, lower taxes, free market enterprise, against abortion of the unborn child, for the rule of law.
Your party is the opposite of all of this! Only the blind cannot see this, especially now, with the Stalinistic despicable man who is our current occupant of the White House. Don't tell me I vote against my best interests! I stand against you and your ilk. I will not ever capitulate to your Leftist mindset and it's dire consequences, nor will I sit back and shut my mouth about it and what your party is doing to this country.
Anyone who cares to join me may do so in voting Republican each and every time in order to hound these horrible, power and money hungry facist creatures out of office.
Totto| 6.5.10 @ 7:41PM
Which is it, honey, fascism or Stalinist communism? Can't be both, or are you simply too ignorant to know that? Keep swall0wing more right-wing claptrap and propaganda, and your anger will finally consume you. And none to soon, I think. You insult this President of the United States because you fascist authoritarian rabble mimic one another. You simply cannot think for yourself. You are no real American, you are an ignorant fool.
Margie| 6.5.10 @ 10:17PM
I hope you're willing to bet your sorry life on everything you just said.
Lotsa luck.
Totto| 6.6.10 @ 12:01PM
"Sorry life"? I live in an upscale suburb in a relatively progressive state, have a seven figure investment portfolio like many "liberals", a new $40,000 car, regularly travel to Europe, South America, the Pacific, a library filled with excellent reading material, eat in superb restaurants, routinely. Remember, if you "want to live like a Republican, vote Democratic."
Margie| 6.6.10 @ 5:23PM
"For what will it profit a man, if he gains the whole world and forfeits his life? Or what shall a man give in return for his life?" Mt. 16:26.
victor| 6.6.10 @ 7:13PM
You may not be financially bankrupt, but you certainly are morally, spiritually and emotionally bankrupt.
Who cares how many toys you have or what sort of wheels you drive.
In other words, if you wish to live high off the hog like Republicans, you need to be down in the gutter like democrats, eh?
Lie, cheat and steal from the rest of us?
victor| 6.5.10 @ 10:39PM
Totto=simply too ignorant
Fascism IS Communism!
Both are Big Government Totalitarians.
Both are Progressive.
Both are Pro Worker, Anti Free Enterprise.
Both are Redistributors of Wealth.
WE know what they are, do you?
Why are you so eager to give your life to the State?
Our anger is going to consume YOU!
Get ready for a big can of Whupass come this November.
Your butt will be in a sling for months.
PS Insult this president?
He insults America every day of his mis-administration.
What he doesn't know would fill a stadium;
in triplicate!
Try thinking for YOURSELF for a change.
Imagine if Obama was in the company of Washington, Jefferson and Madison.
Imagine Obama telling them that they had the wrong concept in mind for their new government.
What would Obama tell Jefferson about States Rights, eh?
Zip, Zero, Nada!
Totto| 6.6.10 @ 11:48AM
Mussolini and Hitler would be very surprised to learn that they were communists. You know nothing of world history. What was "progressive" about the Third Reich? You, sir, are an ignorant idiot. Keep listening to Rush, Hannity, and Beck and stay stupid. It's all you know. And do not threaten others, hater.
Margie| 6.6.10 @ 5:25PM
Hater? LOL. That would be you, loser. You side with the devil and his lying minions.
victor| 6.6.10 @ 7:10PM
I guess that's why Adolf and his Posse called themselves: "National Socialists", eh?
Totto| 6.6.10 @ 10:04PM
Nazism (Nationalsocialist) stressed the failures of "communism, liberalism and democracy", and supported the "racial purity of the German people". Nazis persecuted those who they perceived as "life unworthy of living". This included Jews, Slavs, Communists, homosexuals, the mentally ill and disabled. In other words, they were just like today's American far-right wing, which you are a member of.
Margie| 6.7.10 @ 9:27PM
Hey loser, go read your Lord Obama's health care bill and see what it says about the "unworthy". And your phony Lord Obama saying your Grandma ought to be given a pill and sent home.
Marxist, indeed, you fool.
Nick| 6.7.10 @ 11:45PM
Totto,
Ernst Röhm, Hitler's rival in the Nazi Party, was a homo.
The only difference between the nazis and commies were their names.
Dorothy| 6.4.10 @ 2:20PM
Totto! There you are! You bad, bad, doggie. You think you can hide from me by spelling your name differntly, but I'm on to you. Now git home! The Republican tornado's coming and they say the house will be upswept. There's no telling whether Glenda the good witch can save you now, or if she even wants to anymore. She's since taken up with the Wicked Witch of the West in the House of Ozbama.
You're on your own.
Totto| 6.4.10 @ 7:02PM
Well, Dorothy, you've just demonstrated the simple-mindedness of the right. You really do live in an altered reality, don't you. What a sad child.
Dorothy| 6.4.10 @ 11:05PM
Woof! Woof! Totto, phone home. Your sense of humor is waiting for you. Oh wait. Liberals have no sense of humor.. pity!
tfgray| 6.4.10 @ 1:54AM
Yes, dear, the country was so sick of Liberals that they elected barack Obama by a landslide and sent huge Democratic majorities to Congress.
Conservative logic, oy!
Ray| 6.4.10 @ 11:37AM
Yes, and the country is so impressed at what those liberals have done that Obama's popularity is plummeting and the Liberals are all facing a VERY tough re-election prospect in the coming elections. Never mind the fact that Massachusetts elected a Conservative to office for the first time in decades. Imagine that, a Conservative beat an Obama supported Liberal in Massachusetts! Liberal logic, oy!
Margie| 6.4.10 @ 2:12PM
Oy-vey! The country's eyes have been opened. They don't like this muffler. Can you say approval ratings? Can you say TEA Party? Can you say Republicans sweep the elections? Can you say NJ~VA~MA? !!!
Honey Ryder | 6.3.10 @ 7:54PM
I truly appreciate you guys for finally admitting that FOX news is a conservative media outlet and it belongs to you guys. As a liberal, I am stunned by how no one from FOX seems to have the guts to say it in public althought the ENTIRE world can see it is a biased , right wing machine. I don't agree with a single view you people share, but I appreciate the honesty on that subject.
Tyler Grad| 6.3.10 @ 8:45PM
I totally agree Bob, for too long the NYT and almost embarrassingly-overtl communist papers like the Washington Post have been hiring on nerdy college professor look-alikes.
Who do these libs think they are? Intelligent progenitors of modern society? Get real, if you believe that fascist slop you DESERVE being taxed above your income.
I for one am SICK and TIRED of people trying to change America from how it's been since the beginning, a country full of prosperity and wealth and equality for all. I want my REAL AMERICA back.
skoal rebel| 6.3.10 @ 8:57PM
AMEN brother. lets face it, America has been robbed and overrunned by the elites, minorities, gays, and FASCIST SOCIALISTS. What we need is real commen sense men like Goerge W Bush and Sara Palin. they cut the crap AND RUN THIS COUNTRY , DONT LET OUR COLORS RUN! god Bless!
Redskid2| 6.4.10 @ 9:36AM
lol, omg, too funny. This website if like a social research experiment in "eliminationism." Come on, you guys, get a grip. Your use of the word fascist is almost comically ironic.
Irene| 6.5.10 @ 5:24AM
skoal rebel - I guess we just have to accept the fact that there will always be idiots like you who would admire the likes of Palin and W. It hurts my head too much to read your assanine comments. Good night.
Redskid2| 6.4.10 @ 9:48AM
From the beginning our country was NOT full of prosperity, wealth, and equality for all. You know that, right? Does your dream of REAL AMERICA involve something like all-white, middle-class homeowners eating apple pie and driving American-made cars to church on Sunday?
Totto| 6.4.10 @ 11:40AM
This is the "Twilight Zone" website filled with delusion and hate. The corporations that are so loved by the right, have sold off what was "America", and sit in their offshore tax havens watching the country of their birth become the land of bigotry and ignorance.
SKoal Rebel| 6.3.10 @ 8:54PM
ALL READING STUFF IS COMMY ANYWAYS, led by the rich elites and beyonce types. MY CHIOCE IS FOXNEWS THAT IS REAL AMERICAN NEWS, and its on tv.
TresID| 6.3.10 @ 11:17PM
Yes, you stick to television because you obviously can't read....
DatsunMark| 6.3.10 @ 9:19PM
I don't think the Times using a source from the Republican Camp is a act of incompetance or immorality but intentional malfeasance. They run a *hit* piece on a low rank democrat, re-collect some journalistic street cred for a moment then allow the democrat the *out* by divulging the source. No one in America has use for these people any longer.
Tyler Grad| 6.3.10 @ 10:39PM
Exactly! These greedy, snobbish NYT execs are no better than the mafia. Ordering hits on local democrats who don't support their tenured staff of college professors. It's disgusting honestly, and I don't see how it hasn't been reported as such by any news outlet. Just another example of NYT silencing our informed opinions.
Occam's Tool| 6.3.10 @ 10:38PM
I read the Washington Times, and subscribe. I also subscribe to The Weekly Standard, NR, and the print form of TAS, as well. My colleagues ask me why I don't read Liberalcrap for balance. I ask if she has a subscription to NR. Silence.
I know what the Liberalscum are thinking. Take the opposite of what any decent human being would think 95% of the time, and you have it. The NYT is suffering a Biblical penalty for cursing Israel's bombing of Osirak in 1981. It deserves destruction, and I hope it bankrupts a LOT of people.
Tyler Grad| 6.3.10 @ 10:50PM
Right on! My colleagues in the public waste removal sector always ask me why I don't subscribe to NYT or Washington Post... uhh, HAVE YOU READ THEM?
I swear 95% of what's written in those rags would incur a hefty Biblical Penalty if I didn't do the Christian thing and pray for their forgiveness every night. Damn those hypocrites to bankruptcy and starvation!
Redskid2| 6.4.10 @ 9:41AM
Wow. "Liberalscum." Up all night thinking up that one? Love the "deserves destruction" comment, another fine example of the right-wing fascist urge to eliminate completely and totally all voices that oppose your own viewpoint. Marginalize, delegitimize, and destroy. Hmmm, where have we seen that particular mindset in action during the past 50 or 60 years?
Nick| 6.4.10 @ 2:48PM
From you stinking, bleeding heart liberals, that's where.
We conservatives have learned your Alinskyite tactics. Better learn how to take what you dish out.
Totto| 6.5.10 @ 7:59PM
Sick Nick.
ojo grande| 6.3.10 @ 10:52PM
Joe,
You forgot to mention the Wall Street Journal.
ojo grande| 6.3.10 @ 11:02PM
The NY Times and leftist newspapers nationwide are committing suicide. Conservatives aren't killing them...the liberal rags are killing themselves...slowly drowning in their leftist cesspool.
larrym| 6.4.10 @ 3:36AM
These communist anti-American right wingers are nuts. The thing is, they'll never amount to anything. Most of them are afraid of leaving their homes unless they're "packin". Cause you never know when one of those negro type or brown skinned or Muslim guys is going to get them.
What a bunch of cowards. Now they're afraid of a newspaper. What are you puppy dogs? Now somebody is going smack you with a newspaper?
A True American | 6.4.10 @ 1:41PM
Thank you lord Jesus for Fox News and Rush and Bill and Glenn and all the other truth tellers. We can be sure there are no commies or arabs or Jews or coloreds among them. I'm tired of their distortions of good Americans like PRESIDENT Nixon and PRESIDENT Bush and Senator McCarthy and Charles Whitman and Robert Welch and Ollie North and so many other true patriots!!!! All of the librul's lefty commie pinko nazi talaban papers should just close down and the writers should get real job as gas station attendants or fry cooks. Then at least we'd get something real from them. Ha. Ha.
Nick| 6.4.10 @ 3:18PM
"[...] writers should get real job [sic] as gas station attendants or fry cooks."
They wouldn't be smart enough for those jobs!
Charles Whitman? Where did you come up with that? He was going to college in Austin. He was obviously a liberal. Some liberal professor probably told him to go shoot some redneck Texans.
Pat| 6.4.10 @ 2:40PM
Fox and WSJ. The yellow rags of journalism. I am sad to see how jouralism has fallen. If hate and misinformation are the primary products of this man Murdock, then we hve lost our sense of direction in this country. We have a real crisis on hand...many as a matter of fact and instead of pulling together we are pulling apart.
Anyone who listens to Fox will only get one side of the story. Go to all sources. I pray for folks like Glenn Beak whose hate filled commentary has reached McCarthy like status. America is this really the direction you want to go? Go back in time to the 50s when the rest of the world moves forward in the 21st C. We will lose what little respect the world has left for us. .
Nick| 6.4.10 @ 3:24PM
Pat,
Senator Joseph McCarthy was right.
Fox has stinking, bleeding heart liberals on all the time. Too much, in fact. Olberman-child is afraid to have consevatives on his stupid show. He is a coward.
Wesley Crusher...er....I mean Rachel Madcow is more of man than Keith Overbite and Chris Matth-spews! And not in the way you're thinking, pervert! She actually has right-of-center guests on, once in a while.
up420oz| 6.4.10 @ 5:12PM
when I open up this link, some hideous looking troll was begging for money. Went by the name of malkin. I through up.
Nick| 6.4.10 @ 8:25PM
I think you mean you "threw-up", brainiac.
What is your idea of beauty, by the way?
Shrillary the Hut?
Helen Thomas?
Babs Streisand?
Darragh| 6.4.10 @ 6:15PM
I feel a bit bad for the Times, but not much. Its Catholic bashing this year was the last straw.
Nick| 6.4.10 @ 8:26PM
Darragh,
"Its Catholic bashing this year was the last straw."
THIS YEAR?
How about the last 20-30 years?
Irene| 6.5.10 @ 5:31AM
You mean their reporting of priests molesting little children and then covering up. Don't you want to know what is really going on in the world, even if it's ugly - especially if it's ugly?
Maybe you should stick with your misinformation news sources.
Nick| 6.5.10 @ 12:05PM
It wasn't "reporting", it was propaganda.
LVogt| 6.8.10 @ 2:46AM
It's laughable if it weren't so tragic to complain about liberal ethics while championing as a leader the brazen dishonesty that is FOXNews. Any liberal will tell you he is desperate to find a major TV or radio outlet that isn't a corporate shill; silent on all but the most egregious corporate corruption. That's why TV viewership is down. It's mostly meaningless soundbites. I wish there was a liberal media.