The American Spectator : Israel, Right and Long

Kenny| 6.3.10 @ 7:22AM

Agreed, the Jews will go on .... but will Israel?

It has hard to be optimistic about that state's future, say 20 - 25 years out. So much is being stacked against it.

Hyrim| 6.3.10 @ 11:25AM

Jews: great, Israel: horrific experiment that needs to end.

Talons of Judah| 6.3.10 @ 11:48AM

Israel is an extension of the Jewish people so don't try to hide behind that veil of Jews yes, State of Israel (Zionism) that needs to end??? What kind of language is this? End? Are you so threatening me and my people AGAIN with death!? You will see that in the end you will bring a rain of destruction upon YOURSELF...that is what history shows...

fred gill| 6.3.10 @ 1:53PM

Talons, I can appreciate your frustration but it doesn't help to vilify honest opinions. I am a Gentile who supports Israel's continued existence and believes America should stand staunchly by her. But in fairness to Hyrim there were formerly many Jews, and very devout ones, who thought the founding of Israel was a mistake. They appreciated that Jewry cannot survive as mere tribalism. The de facto agnosticism of so many Jews, for whom an easy -going secular humanism has replaced the study of the Torah and a strict observance of Jewish law, presents a greater danger to Judaism than all the Islamists in the world could ever present to Israel. It would be a huge tragedy if the state of Israel fell. But the truth is that only God knows what the future holds. Jews existed and thrived for 1900 years without any state of their own. It would be silly to think they could not do so again. I do pray they shall not have to.

As regards the events of the weekend, of course the "peace flotilla" movement is cynical, manipulative crap. Yet true to form, the left-leaning media here and abroad are wetting their panties over the whole thing. Nicholas Kristoff's idiotic piece this morning in the NYT is a perfectly nauseating sample of the tripe that's out there. Israel's only mistake was tactical - but it has turned out to be a huge mistake. They should have known better than to drop ten commandos virtually single-file into a hostile ship. The terrorists have won this round and Israel must fight smarter in the next one.

Talons of Judah| 6.3.10 @ 3:34PM

Fred Gill - I agree somewhat but even Orthodox Jews believed and prayed that eventually the Jews would return to the Land of Zion HENCE modern Zionism. The touchy-feely (ignorant) LIBERAL Judaism of today is indeed dangerous but without Israel the Jewish world position would revert back to the pre-WWII helpless Jude all over again.

Dan Frano| 6.3.10 @ 3:59PM

I am a gentile. My Bible tells me that soon, the Muslims in Iran will bring destruction to themselves (possible nuclear accident) Damascus will be uninhabitable, and the people will flee Iran.
read Revelations. Predictions have been 100% accurate to date.

Ryan| 6.3.10 @ 4:44PM

Except they aren't mentioned by name. It's a bad idea to read into something as speculative as Revelation that isn't explicit.

Mike Shaw| 6.3.10 @ 5:00PM

The countries involved do not need to be mentioned by name. It is not speculation if you the Bible with Jewish eyes and heart. Rev. says Israel will stand alone against the world. They will seem to be loosing, then God Himself will come to win the fight, and the world will know it was He.

Margie| 6.4.10 @ 11:14AM

Correct! If one does not read the Bible and believe what God has to say directly, it is only because his or her flesh does not want to accept what He is saying. Even the Bible itself says it:

"First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, because no prophecy ever came by the impulse of man, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God." 2 Peter 1:20&21;.

"..but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His Name." Jn. 20:31.

"..so that they should set their hope in God, and not forget the works of God, but keep His commandments.." Ps. 78:7.

As for Israel: "Behold, a day of the LORD is coming, when the spoil taken from you will be divided in the midst of you. For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city shall be taken and the houses plundered and the women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then the LORD will go forth and fight against those nations as when He fights on a day of battle. On that day His feet shall stand on the Mount of Olives which lies before Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives shall be split in two from east to west by a very wide valley; so that one half of the Mount shall withdraw northward, and the other half southward. And the valley of My mountains shall be stopped up, for the valley of the mountains shall touch the side of it; and you shall flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzzi'ah king of Judah. Then the LORD your God will come, and all the holy ones with him. On that day there shall be neither cold nor frost. And there shall be continuous day (it is known to the LORD), not day and not night, for at evening time there shall be light."

God's words, not mine!

Margie| 6.4.10 @ 11:16AM

That last section of Scripture was Zechariah 14:1-7.

Joey Bolz| 6.3.10 @ 6:24PM

The Jews already have a homeland. Florida.

MaryAnn| 6.3.10 @ 11:51AM

Why? Do the Jews not have the right to a state, a homeland? They are living on land that has been their own since God gave it to them. Should they simply leave because others want it now? Don't forget who it is that wants that land, and don't forget that those same people actually do not want the Jews to leave. Rather, they want all the Jews to congregate there- all the easier to kill them.

Michael| 6.3.10 @ 11:57AM

Oh, so now GOD gave it to them? I didn't realize God gives people a specific piece of land based on their religion. Don't shove your religious theocratic views down other people's throats.

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 12:08PM

Then perhaps you better wake up!

Willy| 6.3.10 @ 12:14PM

So the Bible says, Michael. Don't shove your anti-religious theocratic views down other people's throats.

humanitarian crisis in gaza| 6.3.10 @ 12:22PM

so ur in favor of theocracy? i dont think there is anything more unamerican than that...

the bible was written by bronze age desert dwellers that didnt know a damn thing about the world they lived in. It endorses slavery and genocide...and you want people to respect that?

we live in a secular country, with a secular consitution...and the people who decide foreign policy shouldnt even give audience to people who want to base it on ancient nonsense...

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 12:41PM

Oh there are lots of forms of slavery. Do you have a 30 year mortgage? Do you pay to up-keep the never ending/satisfied socialist government programs? Are you wiser than God? Do you disregard His Word as meaningless? May God be true and ever man a liar.

Ryan| 6.3.10 @ 12:51PM

If you believe that the Bible endorses slavery and genocide, you aren't reading it and understanding it thoroughly.

It does neither.

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 1:00PM

Obviously...God never intended slavery or death for that matter. These were corruptions that came upon the world as a result of man's rejection of God and His Word (Who IS God). When Christ came, He spoke to the root of man's problem - man's rejection of God and His Word. Jesus, the Word of God made flesh declared that man shall not live by bread alone, but by every Word that proceedeth from the mouth of God. You are either for God or against Him. "Humanitarian Crisis in Gaza" has in-as-much stated that he is against God and rejects His Word. Slavery shall exists in this fallen and corrupted world until the Lord returns. Nevertheless God's Word shall stand.

DanMingo| 6.3.10 @ 2:54PM

Leviticus "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

Franks| 6.3.10 @ 1:15PM

I am waiting to see if anyone can be objective and not attempting to paralyze any sect, define the reason Jew's and Israel should be spoken of separtely.......sort of seems agnostic..........

Patrick| 6.3.10 @ 2:01PM

If a vegetarian eats veggies, what does a humanitarian eat?

old white guy| 6.3.10 @ 4:15PM

you need to read more. the u.s. was founded upon judaic christian principles and the laws are based on the 10 commandents and judaic law. get your head out anti semite.

Timebandit| 6.3.10 @ 10:58PM

Yes the land was given to them by god. That is why it is called a covenant. We also live in a republic that was founded on the very principles you apparently detest, the ten commandments.

I Love Jesus and he loves me| 6.3.10 @ 11:48PM

"we live in a secular country, with a secular consitution..."
Let me enlighten you:
our bill of rights were inspired by the founding fathers Judeo-Christian values. Throughout the Constitution and Declaration of Independence there are reference's to God and divine providence (which I take to mean God). The founding fathers where overwhelmingly Christian (not all were but most were).Here are but a few examples.
On May 16, 1776 the founders declared the 17th of May a national day of prayer to confess our sins to Jesus Christ.
July 9, 1776 George Washington ordered Christian chaplains to every regiment in his army.
September 11, 1776 U.S. Continental Congress ordered 20 thousand bibles for soldiers.
George Washington was invited to be the first king of America to which he responded “America already has a king and His name is Jesus Christ”.
During the revolutionary war there was a common saying “No other king but Jesus”.
America was made up of Pilgrims who were Puritans, Quakers, Baptist, Methodist, Lutherans, Catholics etc. all who had bibles and claim Jesus Christ.
Engraved on the Washington Monument are “Praise be to God”.
In the monument there are scriptures on the blocks such as: Luke 18:16 “Suffer the little children to come unto me”, Exodus 28:36 “ Holiness unto the Lord”
On the Jefferson memorial God’s name is in quotes.
Lincoln Memorial has name of God and quotes from the bible.
In the Senate is a plaque that says “In God we trust”.
Moses with the commandments is in the Library of Congress and on the Supreme Court also.
Chapel of U.S. Congress has a stained glass window with George Washington on his knees praying.
52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution attended Christian churches.
“In God we trust was put on our currency first on coins in 1864 and then by an act of Congress in 1956.
The pledge of allegiance added in the year 1954 “one nation under God”.
As one can clearly see we were overwhelmingly based on and continue to have Judeo-Christian values. Granted there are many religious beliefs all throughout America but we are overwhelmingly Judeo-Christian.

Paul| 6.3.10 @ 1:00PM

The Bible is made up.

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 1:12PM

The Bible is made up - of God's Word and truth.

Franks| 6.3.10 @ 1:18PM

Do you make it a habit of displaying yourself as an argumenative pot-stirrer...Your comment does not even merit the justification of a reply. I hope no one does stoop that low.

JimE| 6.3.10 @ 6:03PM

Paul,
And the koran was writtern by a control freak pedophile who wrote it simply to accomodate his personal fetishes.

Timebandit| 6.3.10 @ 11:00PM

You must really hate your Hebrew name Paul.

Simon Templar| 6.4.10 @ 2:06AM

So, was your bible, Das Capital, by your prophet, Karl Marx. So, whats your point?

Rocky| 6.3.10 @ 12:17PM

Obviously you've never read a Bible...and clearly you don't believe the Bible. I would be curious as to your explaination as to how the Jews have survived as a people and as a religion despite constant presecution over several thousand years. History records they have been scattered away from their homeland (Israel) at least three times.

PsychoDad| 6.3.10 @ 12:17PM

OK then, Britain and the UN gave it to them. suck it up.

Augo Effyourself| 6.3.10 @ 12:48PM

"Oh, so now GOD gave it to them? I didn't realize God gives people a specific piece of land based on their religion. Don't shove your religious theocratic views down other people's throats."

Uh, maybe you haven't read the Old Testament, but G*d DID "give people a specific piece of land." Unless you're some G*dless lefty turd who hasn't read the Bible in the first place (which I would bet my next paycheck on), I don't see how you could've missed it. As for shoving anyone's "religious theocratic views down other people's throats," who's shoving? This is what the Bible says. And this is what more people believe than disbelive, despite whether you like it or not. Now go make me a latte, hippie scumbag. And don't get any of your nasty dreds in it. Putz.

norman c harding| 6.3.10 @ 1:30PM

micheal you are to say in the least an ignorant person

gibor| 6.3.10 @ 1:34PM

Whoever gave them is immaterial, but it was their country for 1400 years until thief Romans took it from them A.D 136. Other successive thieves took it from each other . Finally, from the last thief the British had to give it up to the rightful owners the Jews. My dear friend the property no matter how many times change hands, it still belongs to the owner. Other little thing: Jews are an ethnicity and Judaism is a religion. Israel is the country of the Jews like, I am sure you would agree, Ireland is the country of the Irish.

Hello?| 6.3.10 @ 1:45PM

Then all the Jews should have to live there and clear out of every other country.

Hello, a$$hole!| 6.3.10 @ 5:09PM

Irish don't live out of Ireland? You suggest Boston, MA to be packed and returned to Contae Chorcaí together with all the inhabitants, Red Sox and The Big Dig?

Yoni Vasseira| 6.4.10 @ 11:47AM

Believe me, we're trying to. And all we want is that little piece of land that has rightfully been ours for almost 3000 years. We don't want the world. The Muslims want that.

So are you going to help us go home, or just sit around making silly remarks?

ShortNSweet| 6.3.10 @ 4:41PM

Wow! God created what you are sitting your hostile bottom on sir! Religion or Not! One day you and I and every other nation, crede, religion, color, genious and idiot will see that God created this Earth and it belongs to Him, and Yeap! He gave a piece of it to Abraham and his decendents (hence the Jews!). AND whether one believe it or not will not exempt that one from meeting God (The Maker).....Ever knee will bow - that means you Michael!

Mike Shaw| 6.3.10 @ 5:04PM

Indeed He did give it to Israel! He chose Israel to be a Nation of Priests unto Himself. They have strayed. Can you imagine what that feels like to God Himself? Remember what it felt like to have a girlfriend dump you? Israel of old jilted GOD, yet He loves Israel and she WILL come back to Him.

Dennnis| 6.3.10 @ 5:10PM

Michael, just because you don't realize it does not make it untrue. You are the ignorant one.

Jim| 6.3.10 @ 8:24PM

First, let me say that I have no problem with a Jewish state. If the Christian west feels guilty about its 2000 year persecution of Jews and even more guilty about the Holocaust, then perhaps they should have been given parts of Germany or Poland or the Soviet Union for the Jewish homeland. What right did they have to give someone else's (the Arab Palestinians) land to the Jews. And don't give me that Old Testament crap. It is a myth to justify the taking of the land from the Caannites , Moebites, and all the other people exterminated by the Hebrews to get the land.

In the last Ottoman census of Palestine (circa 1910), the population was 10% Christian, 10% Jewish and 80% Muslim. At the time of the partition in 1947-48, the Jewish population of the UN defined Israel was only 60% and that was about 50% of Palestine. However, after using terrorism, the winning three wars with American know-how and material help, Israel has doubled in size. Now you tell me who is the aggressor here.
Let me be clear, I am neither Arab or Jew and my people have suffered horribly in an Islamic country. And, despite what may be in the Koran, Islam today is dominated by misogynist, intolerant and brutal fanatics, but the fact remains, that the Israel/US power grab and aggression should be an embarrassment to both countries. How can you expect peace when there is no justice.

Timebandit| 6.3.10 @ 11:08PM

You have some funky statistics there. The Jews have always been one of the largest percentiles of the population of that particular territory. If you include all of what is now Saudi Arabia, and the Hashemite territory now known as Jordan, you may get your numbers.

Davis Nells| 6.3.10 @ 12:06PM

Iran: horrific experiment that needs to end; Saudi Arabia: racist horrific experiment that needs to end; North Korea: meglamaniac that needs to end; Obama: horrific socialist experiment that needs to end.

You: coward that cannot admit you are anti-semitic.

Yoni Vasseira| 6.4.10 @ 11:50AM

You left out Yemen with their starvation blockade no one will speak of (Israelis actually pay taxes to feed the bastards firing rockets at them) and Turkey with their oppression of Kurds and the occupation of Cyprus. Oh, let's not forget Darfur or Ethiopia, or Somalia...

Good point, Davis.

Jake H | 6.3.10 @ 1:22PM

Hyrim..spare us your "Jews Great" comment. If you hate Israel ..you hate Jews. And the same to "Talons of Crap". Israle will here when you guys are moulding!

old white guy| 6.3.10 @ 4:10PM

when the last muslim dies, when the last athiest dies, when the worst of the worst and the best of the best die the jews will still have their portion. period.

moodygirl| 6.3.10 @ 7:56PM

"They have ears but they hear not....They are spiritually blind." New Testament

RAWni| 6.4.10 @ 12:46AM

I admire and long for straight talkers such as yourself. It helps us Elite Zionists slowly but surely understand exactly what needs to be done! No Prisoners! Straight talkers such as yourself and Scum such as Ahmadinarat are literally bringing the long awaited Zionist Awakening. Thank You and See you in The Battle Field! ASAP!

gibor| 6.10.10 @ 9:12AM

Who should end Israel? Who is your candidate?
Perhaps Islam should be ended, because it brought nothing but suffering, bloodshed, oppression, warfare, hatred, discrimination, and disruction of ancient cultures.

Occam's Tool| 5.12.11 @ 2:45PM

Bit of an asshole, Hyrim; also, someone who knows nothing about Jews or Judaism.

Ben Z | 6.3.10 @ 1:06PM

Kenny...dont worry, Israel has many tricks in their survival KIT! One of them is called the "ENOLA GAY SHUN"! BOOOOOMMM! I recall the Hiroshima incident!

gibor| 6.3.10 @ 1:20PM

It has been hard to be optimistic about that state future 60 years ago and ever since. Yet people will say the same thing long after many other present country will not exist.

Serge from Wellington| 6.3.10 @ 5:18PM

It's 62 years already, which reminds me of a note left near the gates of the Israeli Embassy around 30 April this year in a rather hostile European country:

"Already 62, and still everyone wants to f#### you. Happy birthday, Israel!"

Alan Brooks| 6.3.10 @ 2:08PM

"say 20 - 25 years out. So much is being stacked against it."

Enemies could destroy Israel now if they really wanted to, if they wanted to gamble.
doesn't say much for Israel's security.

ShortNSweet| 6.3.10 @ 2:34PM

The covenant God will, through Israel, show this world who He is, just as was His plan in the days of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Israel will never fall again! Their enemies better start lining up on Israel's side or They will be brought down.

Mike Shaw| 6.3.10 @ 5:55PM

Take heart, there will ALWAYS be an Israel in the Land that God has given them!

Christopher Holland| 6.3.10 @ 8:11PM

Israel probably has more nuclear weapons than Britain, a lot more guts and an iron determination to defend itself, regardless of what the rest of the world thinks. Israel also knows who its enemies are (many) and who its friends are (virtually none). So its destiny is entirely within its own hands. Israel owes nothing to anybody, because so many hate it. That gives a lot of freedom of action. Watch how fast the smirks disappear from the faces of the anti-semetic elite once the bombs start dropping and they realise how ineffectual their disdain has been.

When it comes to national survival, those qualities are not to be laughed at. Personally, I think the EU is in more danger of disintegrating than Israel is. Sure, being hated and despised is bad, but it sure beats being dead, and Israel is bound to choose being hated and despised.

Ed| 6.5.10 @ 12:43PM

I am Roman Catholic. I support Israel and the Jewish people 100%.

Weather people like it or not; the Jews are God's chosen people. They will prevail. It's all in the Bible for anyone to see.

Anyone who dares to argue with God will face His wrath. Who are we as mere mortals to argue with our creator?

If the fools who are against the Jews would read history, they would see that throughout all of recorded history anyone who persecuted the Jews came to a very bad end. And so it will happen again to anyone who messes with the Jews.

Ed| 6.5.10 @ 12:43PM

I am Roman Catholic. I support Israel and the Jewish people 100%.

Weather people like it or not; the Jews are God's chosen people. They will prevail. It's all in the Bible for anyone to see.

Anyone who dares to argue with God will face His wrath. Who are we as mere mortals to argue with our creator?

If the fools who are against the Jews would read history, they would see that throughout all of recorded history anyone who persecuted the Jews came to a very bad end. And so it will happen again to anyone who messes with the Jews.

S.L. Toddard | 6.3.10 @ 7:33AM

"Nothing is more essential, than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular Nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded."

- President George Washington

"Not seldom it has seemed as if some eminent Neoconservatives mistook Tel Aviv for the capital of the United States."

- Russell Kirk

MaryAnn| 6.3.10 @ 11:57AM

Israel is a land and a people surrounded by enemies that want to destroy it. Would you have America simply walk away from her and allow the Holocaust? America was not founded to simply protect her own freedom and liberty. America is a beacon to the world and an ally of all those who wish to live in freedom and liberty. Of all the actions Obama has taken to shame America, his abandonment of Israel will prove to be the worst and most destructive to us.

Michael| 6.3.10 @ 11:59AM

I'm not surprised you want America to fight your wars. Tell me, is it our job to give Israel billions of dollars of taxpayer money in foreign aid as well? Is Israel the 51st state of the U.S.?

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 12:09PM

I don't see you fighting for anything.

Willy| 6.3.10 @ 12:20PM

Michael, wise up and read up.
Israel isn't the only country we give billions of dollars in taxpayer money, by a long shot.

Alan Brooks| 6.3.10 @ 2:10PM

"Israel isn't the only country we give billions of dollars in taxpayer money, by a long shot. "

You libertarians have it all figured out as well?

Alan Brooks| 6.3.10 @ 9:01PM

oops, I attacked the wrong blogger! too trigger happy.
A thousand pardons, Willy.
The enemy of our enemy in this case IS our friend!

And Israel needs all the help it can get.

Alan Brooks| 6.3.10 @ 9:03PM

...Israel cannot afford to lose any friends.

Augo Effyourself| 6.3.10 @ 12:18PM

Tell me, genius, when was the last war this country fought for Israel? We sell weapons to EVERYONE who's our ally. The Brits (Appaches), almost every air force in Europe (F-15s, F-16s, etc), the Taiwanese, the Japanese, the South Koreans. They ALL benefit from our military supplies & assistance. So I guess since you seem to only have a problem with Israel receiving this sort of aid, we can surmise that you don't care if they get wiped off the map, a la Ahmadinejad's fantasy. You're a real humanitarian.

DanMingo| 6.3.10 @ 3:03PM

Tell me, genius, when was the last war this country fought for Israel?
We're fighting them right now in Iraq, Afghanistan, and soon, Iran.

We sell weapons to EVERYONE who's our ally...So I guess since you seem to only have a problem with Israel receiving this sort of aid, we can surmise that you don't care if they get wiped off the map, a la Ahmadinejad's fantasy.

So much BS.
We do not sell weapons to Israel; we give them (paid for with taxpayer money) as aid.
You have no problem with our welling weapons to 'allies' but do you allow the same for Russia or China selling weapons to their allies.
The oft improperly quoted "wipe Israel off of the map"
It's Zionism that he said should be wiped off of the map.
BTW, your hero St. Ronnie sold weapons to Iraq and Iran too.
I'm sure you are okay with that.

NavyBrat | 6.3.10 @ 3:41PM

"We're fighting them right now in Iraq, Afghanistan, and soon, Iran."

Iraq, 500,000 tons of yellowcake uranium, currently being destroyed in Canada. Afghanistan? Maybe you missed 9-11. Then again, maybe the Jews were behind that, too? Idiot. Iran? Bad for everyone if they nuke up, so what's the problem with flattening them?

"You have no problem with our welling weapons to 'allies' but do you allow the same for Russia or China selling weapons to their allies."

Don't necessarliy reilsh the idea, but that's the way of the world. They sell to their allies, we sell to ours.

"The oft improperly quoted "wipe Israel off of the map"
It's Zionism that he said should be wiped off of the map."

After you're done reading your copy of Mein Kampf (you know, with the pages all stuck together), go tell the Mullahs that you're posting your bile for that you need a new job. Your ability to spread propaganda is sorely lacking.

Serge from Wellington| 6.3.10 @ 7:58PM

Don Mingo wrote: "It's Zionism that he said should be wiped off of the map".

Pray tell us then, why Zionism should be wiped off? It's a movement for the returning of Jews to their ancestral land...

Though not every Jew is a follower of this idea, Israel was resurrected by Zionists and as a place where every Jew, Zionist or not, could return.

So to wipe off Zionism is to wipe off Israel. And you know this as surely as I do.

Mike Shaw| 6.3.10 @ 5:58PM

It is our job to encourage Israel and stand in the way of those who would do harm to her. Bind them.

Christopher Holland| 6.3.10 @ 8:20PM

Great idea - cut off all assistance to Israel and let them fight their own wars. What are you going to do when Israel attacks with nuclear weapons, what leverage will you have then? In 1973 Israel told the US they were being defeated in the October War and they were prepared to use nuclear weapons to save themselves. This was not an idle threat and the Americans knew it. A nuclear war was a real possibility whether the US wanted it or not. The US launched a massive supply program to give Israel the weapons they needed. It prevented a nuclear war. So I say again - go ahead, wise guy, cut your own nose off to spite your face, stop supporting Israel.

roadmaster| 6.3.10 @ 7:55PM

I pray to God, the 72% of American Jews come to their senses and pay attention to what the Pretender in Chief is doing. They're also are the biggest individual contributors to the dhimmicrat party. Have they lost their minds? Do they have a death wish? Or do they hate Israel, their very own inheritance from God, so much that they would stand by while Satan and his minions, the mooslims, try everything they can to anniliate them? Everything that is happening is foretold in the Bible. My wife says, again and again, the US needs a WEAK President, who turns his back on Israel, before the next stages of prophesy can come to pass. Look what we get with Obama? End times for the world.

moodygirl| 6.3.10 @ 8:05PM

I couldn't agree with you more. If the United States deserts Israel, we are in for a VERY rough time. It will be our downfall. "God blesses those who bless Israel and curses those that curse it."

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gibor| 6.3.10 @ 1:23PM

This is nothing to do with the US. And by the way to your enlightment Tel Aviv is not a capital of any country. What you really want to say is Jerusalem, right?

Alan Brooks| 6.3.10 @ 2:24PM

"Russell Kirk "

As if Russell Kirk was a HEAVYWEIGHT.
But Toddard has little use for those who are not libertopians.

Serge from Wellington| 6.3.10 @ 8:03PM

I realised long ago that Mr. Toddard is just a Lefty troll flooder... and I dedicated a special button on my keyboard for him. "Ignore" button that is.

Serge from Wellington| 6.3.10 @ 8:03PM

I realised long ago that Mr. Toddard is just a Lefty troll flooder... and I dedicated a special button on my keyboard for him. "Ignore" button that is.

Christopher Holland| 6.3.10 @ 8:26PM

Russell Kirk is really important, the most influential thinker since the renaissance. I have seen his books in every shop and statues on every corner and every town has a street or square named after him. That is why Toddard quotes him.

Ms Jones| 6.4.10 @ 10:12AM

Genesis 12: 1 The LORD had said to Abram, "Leave your country, your people and your father's household and go to the land I will show you.
2 "I will make you into a great nation
and I will bless you;
I will make your name great,
and you will be a blessing.

3 I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you."

Interesting that, since our anti-Semitic, Muslim-favoring president was sworn into office, our economy is teetering on the brink of collapse, millions are unemployed, losing their homes, etc.

First and foremost, this is a family feud. The descendents of Abraham through his bastard son, Ishmael (Muslims) will not be satisfied until every last Jew (descended from Abraham's legitimate son and heir, Isaac) is wiped off the face of the earth. There will never be peace in the mideast until Jesus comes again.

Occam's Tool| 5.12.11 @ 2:47PM

Dear SL:

you obviously have no clue about GW's attitude towards Jews and Israel. Many of the Founders supported a Jewish State (Jefferson, for one).

C. Vail| 6.3.10 @ 7:42AM

A wonderful piece about a literally wonderful people. The Jews of Israel are not perfect, of course, but try naming a half-dozen other countries wherein the citizens exhibit a fraction of the Israelis' industriousness and character.

Hyrim| 6.3.10 @ 11:27AM

...and murder anyone that gets in their way (See USS Liberty Massacre 6/8/1967). Never Again!

USA First, Israel Last. Judaism is not Zionism!

Talons of Judah| 6.3.10 @ 12:05PM

You know Hyrim, no people, culture, land or way of life is perfect, (except Islam of course). Israel has always admitted when it makes mistakes, it apologizes when innocents are hurt. Have you ever ONCE heard a PLO/HAMAS/JIHAD/HIZBOLLAH...the list goes on and on EVER APOLOGIZE for murder, mayhem or injury? Ever?

The case of the USS Liberty is a classic argument used by conspiritorial types and it amazingly surfaces every few years by the likes of people like you. The actual payback in terms of experience, INTEL, cooperation and techniques gleamed by the US FROM Israel is so numerous, so long and so secret that you will never know or appreciate it! All you can state is the old, Liberty accusation or blood libel. Get a new set of tricks...

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 12:18PM

Well put. One thing is clear: the writings of Judaism and Christianity center on love, humbleness and peace. The writings of islam center on hatred, pride and war. Is this not what we see befor our eyes today. islam is at war with all us infidels.

DanMingo| 6.3.10 @ 3:16PM

One thing is clear: the writings of Judaism and Christianity center on love, humbleness and peace"

Well, some do, and some don't. Is it willful ignorance on your part or are you really so foolish as to truly believe what you wrote?

And he brought out the people that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with harrows of iron, and with axes..." (I Chronicles 20:3) Referring to David's slaughter of captives after the cessation of hostilities.

And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle. And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead." (Exodus 12:29-30)
Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." (I Samuel 15:2-3)
"Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword. Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished." (Isaiah 13:15-16)
"And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain." (Deuteronomy 2:34)

"And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Hesbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. But all the cattle, and the spoil of the cities we took for a prey to ourselves." (Deuteronomy 3:6-7)
"If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst." (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
I believe I have made my point, but Bible thumpers will still find justification for the violence and bloodshed they claim to decry.

Ryan| 6.3.10 @ 3:54PM

Context, of course.

Every time in the OT that God called for eradication of a people, it was to prevent them corrupting the Hebrew people. It's in EVERY passage.

He would not suffer His people to follow false gods.

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 4:55PM

Man lives in a corrupted and fallen world - by his chosen actions. Actions have consequences. For now, God deals with man on this basis. God is the Creator and Life Giver to all and is judge and life taker when He chooses and for His purposes. Much of what takes place on this earth is for eternal, not temporal, reasons. For instance - the great flood. Wickedness had consumed the earth and God (through mercy) saved the last righteous man and thus subsequent generations. God later chose a man, Abraham, with which He built a nation, Israel. God is still dealing with this rebellious nation. After scattering Israel to the four corners of the earth (due to their disobedience), God has in these end times re-gathered the nation of Israel back to their promised land (a miracle of miracles in and of itself). God is concluding His dealings with Israel and His promises to Abraham now before our eyes. Israel shall be saved.Romans 11:26, "And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob."

JimE| 6.3.10 @ 6:08PM

Dan,
We will dispose of Isreal just as soon as we finish getting rid you of illegal alien cahtolic and islamic brothers.

Timebandit| 6.3.10 @ 11:26PM

You were spot on with those scripture quotes, and there are actually a few more in the new testament. The point you might want to take notice of is that God doesn't necessarily love or like everybody, he said that he hated Esau while he was yet in the womb. You might want to check and see what side your on. Thats what Moses asked the Israelites just before the ground opened up and swallowed half of them.

Watchman| 6.3.10 @ 6:00PM

And islam is at war with itself.
"he shall be as a wild ass among men."

Tim*| 6.3.10 @ 12:30PM

Americans can read about The U.S.S. Liberty.

http://www.usslibertyveterans.org/index.html

Alan Brooks| 6.3.10 @ 2:12PM

"USA First..."

Hyrim, did you mean to write 'Islam first'?

Christopher Holland| 6.3.10 @ 8:29PM

You have won the door prize for being the first to mention the USS Liberty. Please pick up your free copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, autographed by the grand mufti of Jerusalem.

Steven | 6.3.10 @ 11:54AM

I noticed that you described the Jews as the Jews of Israel. That to me sounds more truthful than much of what I seen written about them. Especially seeing that the Jews came from Israel but from a biblical standpoint are a differnt entity than Israel and are described as such in the Old Testament.
The Jews, or the tribe Judah or better yet the house of Judah as the bible decribes them are actually 3 of the 13 tribes of Israel. The house of Israel was taken into captivity by Assyria(Germany) and spread north west to populate the British Common wealth and most of the modern world today. The U.S ,Canda,France Britain, and most western Europe are all desendents of the lost tribes of Israel and can be proven by studying our own bibles. The first time that the word Jew in the Old Testament they are at war with Israel 1&2 Kings. Once they were taken into captivity they became the lost 10 tribes of Israel. They rejected God's Holy Days and lost their identity as Israel until this day.
Judah consisted of Judah ,Benjamen, and of course God's ministry the tribe of Levi.
Todays modern world do not know who they are desendent from. It certainly explains why the U.S and Canada were blessed so much and why there is such a drastic difference between the British Empires and the Us live so differntly than the rest of the world. It is clearly God's promice that was promiced to Abraham.
Genesis 48 & 49 explain the promises given to each tribe. The tribes of Joseph(Manasseh and Ephraim) were the ones that God promiced would become a great company of nations(Ephraim) that would flow over the wall to become the greatest nation ever to happen on this earth who became the United States.(Manasseh)

I can honstly say that with a little digging everything I shared can be proven quite easily. Here's to hoping that you might chech into this yourself.

Thank you for the time you gave for me to share this with you. Take care

Ryan| 6.3.10 @ 12:48PM

Yeah, a little digging...on Stormfront. White supremecists have no place here.

DanMingo| 6.3.10 @ 3:20PM

The U.S ,Canda,France Britain, and most western Europe are all desendents of the lost tribes of Israel

Funny, American Indians don't look Jewish!

Charie| 6.3.10 @ 6:27PM

Tell me, Dan, what do Jews look like? Could you possibly be talking about somewhat dark skin and large noses?

Enemy of the State #666| 6.3.10 @ 7:51AM

None before the eyes of God are perfect, not even Israel. What is obvious is the fact that Nations are building up a false case once again against God's people. For this they shall perish from this earth, none shall speak their names again. Gee I wonder who this is in reference too, could it be the muslims? Yeah.

Hyrim| 6.3.10 @ 11:30AM

ALL are God's People, Israelis are not good Jews in God's eye.

Jay| 6.3.10 @ 11:40AM

Um, who are you to speak for God? How can you pretend to know whether God thinks Israelis are good Jews or not?

Michael| 6.3.10 @ 12:01PM

The same way you think you can speak for God, and say that those of a certain religion are allowed a piece of land all to themselves.

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 12:12PM

OK - I'll say it - God gave the land of Israel, specifically Jerusalem to the Jews. God is certainly able to show a prideful man such as yourself what is true. May the Lord open your eyes for your own good.

Charie| 6.3.10 @ 6:35PM

How odd. I thought it was the UN who decided the Jews and the "Palestinians" (Arabs) would each share a division of that piece of land and it had nothing to do with religion. The "Palestinians" chose to not take their share because it involved Jews. Now they want the whole thing, even though they've done nothing to improve the land they're squatting on. I dare say the oasis the Israelis have made of their land has something to do with it

Serge from Wellington| 6.3.10 @ 8:18PM

Charie, I almost entirely agree with what you say, with one exception: the Palestinian Arabs, unlike the Palestinian Jews, don't give a rat's arse for the oasis Israelis created. The best proof is the way they disposed of the hundreds of acres greenhouses they inherited in the Gaza Strip from leaving Israelis.

These greenhouse business was ready to generate many many millions of dollars for them annually, but the Arab machos prefered to remain kept women of the UN - and desmolished everything.

Blackwatch| 6.3.10 @ 6:56PM

Michael--Israel is not for Jews only. There are 10's of thousands of Palestinians living in Israel. Also a few Christians too.

Occam's Tool| 5.12.11 @ 2:48PM

Dear Michael:

Molon Labe.

Paul| 6.3.10 @ 1:03PM

Who are any of you to speak for God??? That's 90% of the problem when it comes to Israel and Palestine. Everyone thinks God's on their side, which precludes any chance of rational bargaining.

Alan Brooks| 6.3.10 @ 2:16PM

"Enemy of the State #666"

Cripes, what a handle; some wild-eyed rightwingers here.

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 4:44PM

Yes...what a wonderful thing if nobody stood for anything - no morals, no beliefs, no convictions, no right/wrong. It would sure make things easier for the likes of Obama to mold us. My foundation is the Bible. This is a book that has stood the test of time, but can ONLY really be appreciated when you begin to live by it. It is ONLY then that you will understand. You do not nor cannot understand because, after all, you said that it is made up. I challenge you to sincerely take some time and read the Bible. At least then when you criticise others you will not do so from complete ignorance. If God's Word is "made up" then read it and prove me wrong.

Paul| 6.17.10 @ 11:43PM

I have read the Bible. I have also studied how it was written and how it was translated. My point was only that no human can claim to speak for God. Just look at the Bible. It has been interpreted thousands of different ways. As an example, the Bible was used both to support and oppose slavery. There are hundreds of different sects with different beliefs. What makes you so sure that you alone have the actual truth? Are you divine? Are you just smarter than all of the other people telling us what the Bible means? And how do we even know that the Bible is the most accurate holy book? The Jews who live in Israel reject most of the Bible. There are millions of faithful muslims who believe the koran as ardently as you believe your interpretation of the bible. What makes you smarter than them? Could it be because you were "lucky" enough to be born into a Christian culture? How convenient. Do you think you would have converted to Christianity by now if you had been born in Saudi Arabia? I doubt it. But who cares: Let's condemn those arabs to Hell anyway...

Christopher Holland| 6.3.10 @ 8:33PM

God told you this himself, did he? Are you sure this is not a case of identity theft, there is a lot of that around these days. Maybe it was his kid brother, pulling a stunt while his back was turned.

William R| 6.3.10 @ 8:00AM

Perhaps we didn’t appreciate fully enough the depth of the hatred and the complexity of the problems that made the Middle East such a jungle. Perhaps the idea of a suicide car bomber committing mass murder to gain instant entry to Paradise was so foreign to our own values and consciousness that it did not create in us the concern for the marines’ safety that it should have.

In the weeks immediately after the bombing, I believe the last thing that we should do was turn tail and leave. Yet the irrationality of Middle Eastern politics forced us to rethink our policy there. If there would be some rethinking of policy before our men die, we would be a lot better off. If that policy had changed towards more of a neutral position and neutrality, those 241 marines would be alive today.

Ronald Reagan

John Navratil| 6.3.10 @ 8:51AM

It is a perplexing symmetry that the Jews are so mistreated by the World and conservatives are so unappreciated by the Jews.

I mean no disrespect, but I simply cannot understand how their staunchest political allies in the U.S. get such little support.

NavyBrat | 6.3.10 @ 9:46AM

Mr. Navratil. As a POLITICALLY (I could NEVER keep Kosher & give up BBQ or cheeseburgers) conservative 31 year old who happens to be Jewish, I don't get it either. My Aunt (Dad's sis) & her family are HUGE Washington DC liberals. My cousin, their daughter, works for John Dingel-berry of MI. Given all the anti Semitic bile that comes from lefties, I'll NEVER understand their unfaltering support of that ideology. My Dad never understood it either, even til the day he died. Now, I LOVE my family, & I'd die for any one of them, but their ideology IS very perplexing. I just shake my head in disbelief.

Jeff| 6.3.10 @ 11:22AM

Navybrat....I'm almost 60 and I'm more perplexed than ever. I have begun to see some glimmers of enlightenment, only glimmers to be sure, following recent events. Family is always Number 1, though, despite their unexplainable delusions. Makes for interesting Seders and Thanksgiving dinners, but blood is thick.

Occam's Tool| 5.12.11 @ 2:50PM

NB, you are just too cool.

Jingo-Jan| 6.3.10 @ 12:04PM

Absolutely perfectly stated. The Jewish people ---especially those here in the U.S. (NYC & Miami)need to wake up to who their honest and true allies really are. It sure as hell isn't BHO.

Paul| 6.3.10 @ 1:06PM

Maybe it's because fundamentalist Christians are, ultimately, quite threatening to Jews (who are not yet "perfected" in the eyes of most fundies)?

Patrick| 6.3.10 @ 2:16PM

It's hard for many Jews to get past the idea of joining forces with Christians of any stripe. There simply has been too much antagonism over the centuries.

Sadly, the poisonous yet saccharine song of Marxist victim-culture is far more appealing.

As for Israel, it shall endure for a while, yet another Shoah will only be a matter of time.

Patrick| 6.3.10 @ 2:25PM

To clarify the above, I will not be happy about the next fall of Israel.

Many will die, much will be lost, and Jews around the world will be without sanctuary.

Followers of the cross-dressing, child-raping, mass murderer will be emboldened.

Leftism and Mohammadanism are the two great enemies, and they are allied.

John Navratil| 6.3.10 @ 9:03PM

Paul,

While I will concede that fundamentalist Christians are likely to be social conservatives, your comment seems to imply all conservatives are fundamentalists. I suspect that wasn't your intent.

Inverting the argument, is it reasonable to suggest that liberals (political or social) are better partners for solving the problems of the State of Israel or of Jews in the diaspora? It does not appear so to me.

Occam's Tool| 5.12.11 @ 2:51PM

Yessir, John. Correct as usual.

Talons of Judah| 6.3.10 @ 3:43PM

John, I am a Conservative Jew- try to understand that most modern-day Jews are ignorant of their birthright and place in history. Serious adherence to core Judaism has been supplanted by Liberalism and Justice...justice for all except Jews! Traditionally, Jews favored Change...not Hussein change but political reform in every country they lived so they were/are always in the forefront for change, revolution, radicalism and improving the human condition. All that translated into voting Democratic for the last 100 years or so. Old habits die hard. Many of us in the Jewish community welcome your support and belief system with open arms. You are not alone.

Watchman| 6.3.10 @ 6:03PM

It is perplexing. It was explained to me that the US Jews fear being evangelized by those Christians on the Right, and thus are drawn to the Left. Dunno if it is correct or not.

Serge from Wellington| 6.3.10 @ 8:32PM

"Evangelizing" into Marxist creed is much more anti-Jewish and anti-Semitic, keeping in mind what a self-hating evangelised ex-Jew was the Prophet Karl himself.

We could count the obvious retardiness of the liberal American Jews in this regard as another proof that Jews are G*d's chosen people: when He creates a Jewish idiot, He does it with a special gusto.

KyMouse| 6.3.10 @ 9:18AM

The late messianic evangelist Zola Levitt (levitt.com) often pointed out that no other people have experienced what his Jewish people have: They were driven out of their ancient homeland; scattered among almost every other nation, and persecuted; yet finally gathered back to their homeland -- and speaking the same language, and acknowledging (if not always worshipping) the same God.

The same couldn't be said of the Egyptians, the Romans or the Greeks, Zola pointed out. Visit any of their ancient sites, and your tour guide will not be likely to worship their ancient gods or be adept at their ancient languages.

The reborn nation of Israel could have been in Uganda, as some people suggested -- but it is right where God always said it would be. And the language is Hebrew, not Yiddish, which some had wanted. The prophet Isaiah could walk down Ben Yehuda Street in Jerusalem and converse with anyone he met.

The story of the Jewish people, and of Israel, has unfolded exactly as the Bible said it would. Deuteronomy 28:58-67 is among the verses that foretold the hard times. Ezekiel 36:24 is just one of the many verses which promise that God will lead His Jewish people back to their homeland, and that no one will be able to drive them out of it again. Some people call Rome the "eternal city," but the Bible clearly says that it is Jerusalem (see Revelation 21:10).

The prophecies about the Jewish people are (one) proof of the Bible's divine inspiration. The Bible says that Israel and the Jewish people are in for a terrible time yet to come, but they will not perish (Jeremiah 31:31-37).

We have God's word on it.

Margie| 6.3.10 @ 11:01AM

Wonderful post!
"Every word of God proves true; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him. Prov. 30:5.

Watchman| 6.3.10 @ 6:04PM

Thanks for posting this.

KyMouse| 6.3.10 @ 9:27AM

This excellent article mentions Benjamin Disraeli; that prime minister was, like Zola Levitt, a Jewish believer in Jesus. He wrote, "Christianity is completed Judaism, or it is nothing. Christianity is incomprehensible without Judaism, as Judaism is incomplete without Christianity." He hoped that Jews "will accept the whole of their religion instead of only the half of it, as they gradually grow more familiar with the true history and character of the New Testament."

Distinguished "Jews for Jesus" have also included planetary astronomer William Herschel and composer Felix Mendelssohn, who wrote the music for "Hark, the herald angels sing" (among many other compositions,) and Jay Sekulow, of today's American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ).

Margie| 6.3.10 @ 11:05AM

"He is a Jew who is one inwardly, and real circumcision is a matter of the heart, spiritual and not literal. His praise is not from men but from God." Rms. 2:9.

Christians are spiritual Jews. We love the Jewish people as God loves them!

Mimi| 6.3.10 @ 9:10PM

Heh....Margie, Good to see back! What wonderful posts in defense of Israel. Thank God they have the strong/spined leader Netanyahu. We who live with eternity on our minds are praying for them. And how you post...their plight IS in his hands.

Margie| 6.4.10 @ 11:44AM

Thanks Mimi! Netanyahu is pretty awesome, isn't he? Would that he could be our President!

"Pray for the peace of Jerusalem! "May they prosper who love you!"" Ps. 122:6.

mzk1| 6.3.10 @ 12:04PM

Didn't you forget Karl Marx, who caused more evil than any man in history, who was a Chrsitian before he was an Atheist? (See Paul Johnson.) I don't know what Disraeli believed, but his father left the Jewish community because of a political dispute. (He was fined for refusing a leadership position.) Jews then, like Marx's father, converted to get ahead.

I consider religious Christians my natural allies, both on moral issues and foreign policy, but if the price is missionizing, I will risk another Holocaust. Let's see, who said "What profit it a man to gain a world if he lose his immortal soul?" No thank you!

Alan Brooks| 6.3.10 @ 2:19PM

"I will risk another Holocaust."

How brave thou art!

Patrick| 6.3.10 @ 2:40PM

Odd. I would have no problem praying alongside a devout Jew for the closing of the local abortion mill, nor would I mind voting for a conservative Jew for public office.

Even so, the question is not risking a Holocaust. Your enemies are rather certain about it, with or without Christians at your side.

Serge from Wellington| 6.3.10 @ 8:46PM

mzk1: "...if the price is missionizing, I will risk another Holocaust."

That was stupid, mate, and megalomaniac! If a new Holocaust happens, it will not be your personal event, you know... What, vicious Christian missionaries keep your house under a siege and you will be forcibly converted these days? If you can't find other way, go blast your underdeveloped brain out, but don't ask for a Holocaust for your people.

Occam's Tool| 5.12.11 @ 2:53PM

mzk1 may be from Haifa, but he doesn't get it. Margie can missionize me all day long; my mind is made up, but I still adore her.

KyMouse| 6.4.10 @ 8:32AM

Mzk1, since you "don't know what Disraeli believed," why not find out? A good source is "Famous Hebrew Christians" by Dr. Jacob Gartenhaus. In it you will read about Jews who found out the meaning of the "new covenant" foretold in Jeremiah 31, the identity of the "suffering servant" in Isaiah 53, and the identity of the "pierced" one in Zechariah 12. And much more.

When did God ever repeal Leviticus 17:11: "...it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul"? Do you have God's blood sacrifice for your sins, or will you have to pay for all of them yourself? Jewish (and gentile) believers in Jesus have that necessary blood atonement -- "All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned, every one, to his own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all" (Isaiah 53:6).

More and more Jewish folks are reading the New Testament for themselves and making up their own minds about Jesus.

The late Dr. Vera Schlamm, a New York pediatrician and survivor of the Bergen-Belsen death camp, wrote, "When I accepted [Jesus], it was strictly because God showed me, yes, Jesus is the expected Messiah, and that was reason enough to believe in him...Do we need to protect ourselves from the 'disgrace' of becoming Jews who believe in Jesus? Should we keep a chain on the door of our hearts so we don't have to see if he is out there, if he is real? No, for if Jesus is the Messiah, it is no disgrace for a Jew to believe...

"We must not be swayed by the irrational accusations and behavior of ignorant people who don't understand whas Christianity is about," she continued. "If we respond to them by letting so much fear and malice into our hearts that we have no room left to thoughtfully consider who Jesus is, then their madness has triumphed. Do we need a chain to protect us? Let the protection be from our own fears and malice.

"Let us remove the chains that keep us closed, that we might open the door of our hearts and go beyond our prejudices to look for the Messiah."

TURK| 6.3.10 @ 9:58AM

I opine as a conservative from fly over country. My religious mentor matter of factly maintains that the day we turn our back on Israel, is the day GOD turns his back on the United States. Though we have given our creator many other reasons, I believe our abandonment of Israel is at hand. Our leftist president and the leftist rabble that follow him are obvious in their distaste for Israel and their support for the arabs.

Can it ever be historically argued that Israel doesnt belong, at least, on the ground they occupy in that land of the bible?? WHAT is a palestinian anyway. Does one have to be an arab to be a palestinian or is palestine a geographical area and any one who has some historical claim to residency properly call themselves palestinians? If that's so the jews are palestinians. The mighty UN gave Israel its sliver of land in the late 40s, whereupon the arabs attacked and never stopped attacking. Today that same UN, predominantly composed of hoodlum dictators, reflexively condemns Israel when they dare to repel the arab terrorists who clownishly attack them. Joining the fine group at the UN is the rest of the politically correct world, which now includes our leftist leader and all of the leftist democrat gang. Didnt our leftist Sec of State look great tsk tsking the Israelis? A comparison could be made: The Israelis refusing the terrorist delivery of weapons to Gaza and our Arizona citizens putting their foot down over the filth storming our border with mexico!!! Unbelievably, the democrat/leftists rail over both Israel AND Arizona.

C white| 6.3.10 @ 3:27PM

Turk,

Your religious mentor is correct. I firmly believe that the only thing that has kept this country from losing God's blessing altogether in this age of abortion and hedonism is our relationship with Israel. When we abandon her, God will abandon us (as a nation). His Word says that Israel's enemies shall be God's enemies and Israel's friends, God's friends. I believe the last thread that still connects this nation to Him is Israel. And our President is about to cut that thread.

Ken (Old Texican)| 6.3.10 @ 10:11AM

KyMouse,
Thank you so much for those quotes. I had not seen those words in many years.

The Bible indicates that the Jews will be in Jerusalem when Jesus returns. I'll go with that.
God bless Israel.

William R| 6.3.10 @ 11:14AM

I see the armageddonites are out in full force.

There is a huge problem on the right with those that keep trying to get the United States involved in war in the Middle East on religious grounds. Wars that aren't in our best interest. The same nickel and dime hacks that said Iraq would be a two week wonder are pushing for war with Iran. There's nothing conservative about them. They're radicals. Dangerous radicals.

GW| 6.3.10 @ 12:58PM

Name one person on the right trying to get the US into a war on religious grounds.

William R| 6.3.10 @ 1:34PM

The Evangelical wing of the Republican party. NeoCons. It is a very toxic mixture. That's why we attacked Iraq. After they insured Bush it would be a two week wonder they wanted to go to Syria, Iran Saudi, Hezbollah, Hamas etc etc.

http://zfacts.com/p/165.html

Supported by National Review, most of conservative talk radio, etc etc. This bogus war on terror is every thing President Eisenhower warned the American people about on Jan 17, 1961. And I think it is safe to say Obama wouldn't be President today if Bush had listened to an old warrior like Colin Powell instead of Chicken Hawk Dick Cheney.

GW| 6.3.10 @ 4:25PM

I didn't know Billy Graham and Rick Warren were so influential in the rightful disposing of Sadaam Hussein. I also didn't know NeoCons and Evangelicals are the same thing. I asked you to name one right winger who, on RELIGIOUS grounds, wants to get the US into a war and you can't. We can debate the merits of certain wars, but outing yourself as a godless pagan certainly doesn't help your argument.

William R| 6.3.10 @ 4:52PM

I didn't say they were the same thing. They are a toxic mix.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11.....srael.html

victor| 6.4.10 @ 1:38AM

Quoting the NYSlimes as he is wont to do, WR is still unable to name ONE evangelical or conservative to bolster his "assertions."

ncatty| 6.3.10 @ 10:13AM

Mr. Hillyer, the quote in your last paragraph has also been attributed to Judah Benjamin, US Senator from Louisiana, Confederate Secretary of the Treasury, and expat Queens Counsel in England.

Larry C. Roberts, MD, MA| 6.3.10 @ 10:21AM

I can hardly agree, unless Hillyer writes with a hint of sarcasm, that the Prophet would not approve of the jihadists attacking the Jews. Read the Koran.

John II| 6.3.10 @ 12:18PM

Yes--that parenthetical aside articulates a useless and probably dangerous qualification that's been de rigueur ever since President Bush, in the wake of 9/11, uttered the political inanity that Islam is a "religion of peace." It would have been infinitely more of service to truth and more eloquently politic if he had just kept his mouth shut.

Dante places the Prophet deep in the bowels of Hell, in the ninth bolgia of the eighth circle--and that was fully 700 years after the Prophet had plied his trade as a "sower of discord," a very serious form of fraud. But Dante's moral clarity itself came 700 years before the advent of political correctness in a morally vacuous and rootless western consciousness.

Ryan| 6.3.10 @ 11:08AM

Though I'm not completely convinced of the Dispensationalist view of Revelation (nor of Covenant Theology), we need to remember one thing about the pronouncement of the Jews as "God's people." It includes Christians, per Paul:

Gal 3:7-9
7Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham.
8The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "ALL THE NATIONS WILL BE BLESSED IN YOU."
9So then those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer.

Now, I'm NOT saying that there isn't anything peculiar about the Jews - they clearly have some sort of favor with God, even if they don't embrace Jesus as Messiah; it doesn't necessarily mean their salvation (John Hagee is wrong here).

Most people don't know that Dispensationalism is a VERY recent theology (late 1800s, near the start of modern evangelicalism), and that a more general view - rather than specific - of Revelation and end-times theology has more adherents in historical Christianity.

I'm NOT saying Dispensationalists are wrong...it's just they have a lot more to think about than they realize - that hyper-literal translations of prophecy don't always work.

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 1:10PM

What the Jews have is: that God honors His Word. Even though the Jews have n0t recognized Jesus as the Christ, God has not given up on them. Just as God has not given up on many of those who have expressed their evil comments on this article. God has a plan whereby a remnant shall be saved. This is truly playing out before our eyes right now. Israel is being backed into a corner. God is actually not happy with the Jews giving land away - and particularly concerning Jerusalem. There shall come a 7 year peace treaty to which God says: Isaiah 28:18, "And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it." At 3.5 years the peace treaty shall be violated. 1 Thessalonians 5:3, "For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape." When it looks like all is lost, then Israel shall turn to Christ and He shall roar out of heaven on a white horse to save them.

Ryan| 6.3.10 @ 3:58PM

At least, according to an extremely literal interpretation.

Don't be surprised if it happens differently.

Perplexed| 6.3.10 @ 11:14AM

What a stunning example of double-speak - how can you portray the killing of nine demonstrators as an 'outrage perpetrated against Israelis'?

John II| 6.3.10 @ 12:03PM

What a fabricated example of perplexity. Bone up on what the flotillas are about and what actually happened on that ship, moron.

On the other hand, you probably shouldn't bother--it's so much more satisfying to cultivate a damp and disingenuous perplexity.

Perplexed#2| 6.3.10 @ 12:03PM

Perplexed,
I wonder whether you would slide down a rope onto a ship armed with a paintball gun and a handgun (for emergencies only).

Why do you think these Israelis had to resort to their emergency weapons?

Why has Hamas shot over 6,000 rockets into Israel?

Why, encapsulated in the Hamas constitution, is stated the express desire to extinguish the state of Israel?

Why have multiple Islamic countries sought to destroy Israel -time and again?

Why do arabs deny the existence of a Hebrew nation, with Jerusalem as its capital, covering the between the Mediterranean and the River Jordan?

Why do arabs deny the existence of a Jewish temple in Jerusalem?

Why do you think Muslims want to buid a huge Muslim mosque as close as possible to the World Trade Center which, I seem to recall, ceased to exist on September 11 about ten years ago?

Perplexed#2| 6.3.10 @ 12:05PM

Hi, John II

John II| 6.3.10 @ 12:21PM

Yo.

Cwhite| 6.3.10 @ 3:37PM

How can YOU possibly portray a terrorist flotilla as "demonstrators?"

Perhaps you can explain why three of these harmless "demonstrators" proclaimed themselves "martyrs" and prepared their wills just days before their little cruise?

Or maybe you can explain the videotape evidence of a group of these "peaceful souls" bludgeoning an individual IDF member with metal pipes as he lay already bleeding and defenseless on the deck of the ship?

Please enlighten us as to the videotape evidence of these peace demonstrators tossing a man overboard who now lays in a hospital with brain damage.

And maybe while you're at it you can tell us the last time a large group of "peaceful humanitarians" just happen to be armed with lead pipes so they could gang up on a solitary, unarmed man.

"Demonstrators." Oh, they demonstrated all right. They demonstrated who they truly are and what they truly are about. This wasn't the SS Minnow lost in a three hour tour, my friend. This was a set-up, pure and simple.

Serge from Wellington| 6.3.10 @ 9:02PM

Cwhite: "How can YOU possibly portray a terrorist flotilla as "demonstrators?"

Just to add something to your excellent comment, Cwhite.

The "demonstrators" announced that they are on the way to deliver 10,000 tones of humanitarian supplies to Gazans. For this amount of cargo you need an average, closer to small ship - not a flotilia of 6 vessels, one of them (The Navi Marmara) a luxury cruise liner with no cargo holds at all but with enough cabins to accomodate about 700 people.

What's the cost of 10,000 tones of goods supposedly existentially needed in Gaza, and what's the cost of hiring 6 ships, wining and dining the whole bunch of activists on board of them, etc.?

Those who paid the bill for this racket couldn't care less about the "poor Gazans".

Wally| 6.3.10 @ 11:21AM

What is this fetish right wingers have with Israel? I mean let's remember that your forefathers, the international banking conspiracists and the John Birchers, were the original anti-semitics.

This whole concept that heavily armed commandos with machine guns were threatened by "thugs" with chair legs and fists is so assinine. Why do right wingers WHINE so much? Why are they so scared. Oooh, activists. SCARY. Oooh, black voter registering nonprofits. SCARY. Oooh, an extension of Medicare. SCARY.

Ken (Old Texican)| 6.3.10 @ 11:55AM

Perplexed,
Wally,

You ignorant asses are a disgrace to "useful idiots" everywhere.
Thank you both for reminding us just how ignorant you truly are.

Perplexed#2| 6.3.10 @ 12:08PM

Wally,

I never know that paintball guns were heavy machine guns!

mzk1| 6.3.10 @ 12:08PM

Thank you for reminding us that it's now left-wingers who are the anti-semites.

These boys almost DIED because they were NOT armed with machine guns. And why? To make Europe happy. To make Obama happy. I feel sick.

PsychoDad| 6.3.10 @ 12:23PM

That's rich. You pinkos are the ones terrified of Sarah Palin and the Tea Party ladies. "OMG SHE LOOKED AT ME AND WAVED! SHE'S A TURRERIST!!1!"

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 12:25PM

Wally, you are a frog in a pan of water. Everytime you say scary the temperature has just been turned up Oh so slightly. Of course you are happy in your own little delusion - ignorance is bliss. One day you will be at a full boil, but most likely to dense to ever admit it.

GW| 6.3.10 @ 1:06PM

You're right in a way fag. If I were in charge in Israel, I would have just sank the ship. The activists can fight each other for the life boats if they so chose. I wouldn't have whined about the news coverage either. If Obama, or Gaza, or some other muslim nation started b*tching, I would laugh at them. I would also begin by removing the "Palastians" who are nothing but terrorists. Israel is being way too soft. For one, they don't need to cowtow to Obama at all. In 2 years he'll be out of office and a gov't more sympathetic to the Israelis will be back in office.

Alan Brooks| 6.3.10 @ 2:29PM

"This whole concept that heavily armed commandos with machine guns were threatened by 'thugs' with chair legs and fists is so assinine."

So you admit the commandos were not threatened because they, as guys armed with little more than paint guns, had no reason to be threatened?

Alan Brooks| 6.3.10 @ 2:32PM

...Don't get it?

You THINK about it.

Patrick| 6.3.10 @ 2:49PM

Original anti-semitics? What about your political ancestry? You know, the terrorist wing of the Democratic party running around in their bed-sheets killing and burning anything not WASP in their sight?

dond| 6.3.10 @ 11:23AM

We must remember that all true believers in Jesus Christ are also Jews, having been grafted into the vine. This is the reason that Benjamin Netanyahu has stated that Evangelical Christians are the best friends that Israel has. We do not need to agree politically with everything that Israel does or says, but the day that the United States turns its back on Israel is the day we start our nation on the path of destruction.

Wesley Mouch| 6.3.10 @ 12:04PM

As I understand it, if you don't agree politically with everything that Israel says or does, you are an anti-Semite.

mzk1| 6.3.10 @ 12:12PM

If Israel risks their lives of their soldiers to make sure it is 100% clear to idiots like you that they were not bad people, and you still blame them, then you may not be an anti-semite. You may just be an imbicile. Why don't you move back to Europe where people think like you do?

Talons of Judah| 6.3.10 @ 12:18PM

Wesley - This is not fair and you know it Sir! As an Israeli Jew from the ONLY Democracy in the region we welcome your critiques - we are not perfect but then again neither is anybody else. The fact that Israel is singled out EACH AND EVERY TIME she tries to defend her interests to survive is indeed Anti-Semitism. NO SINGLE NATION ON THE PLANET is vilified as Israel is - this should be clear to you. So while we welcome PROPORTIONAL criticism and will certainly not label you an Anti-Semite. What we are seeing at the knee-jerk hate Israel UN and other bodies is indeed Anti-Semitism Sir and not fair, contructive criticism as one would see directed against ANY OTHER NATION STATE. After all, where is the UN when Iran threatens to "wipe Israel off the map"?? Where is your concern, your outrage?

RCV| 6.4.10 @ 2:29PM

I'm a liberal Democrat and, like most Americans of both parties, a strong defender and supporter of Israel. Irrespective of one's religious views, Israel is the historic home of the Jewish people. When the world was carving up the old Ottoman Empire after WWI, and creating a host of new states in the region -- including arabic "Jordan" out of the major portion of Palestine -- it was entirely appropriate to support the creation of a small Jewish state as well. Out of all the new nations created in the area, only Israel has turned out to be politically democratic, economically dynamic, and religiously tolerant. In their constant effort to avoid extinction by their neighbors, do they make mistakes sometimes? Yes. But they have earned our support, and deserve it.

Cpm| 6.3.10 @ 12:32PM

As I understand it, if you don't agree politically with everything that President Obama says or does, you are a racist. There, fixed it.

Talons of Judah| 6.3.10 @ 12:47PM

That is correct. If you disagree with a Left-tainted individual, you are a "fascist" everytime...

Occam's Tool| 5.12.11 @ 3:24PM

Not true, Wesley. It is if you do things that endanger my children's lives or mine, you are one.

Alan Brooks| 6.3.10 @ 2:37PM

"Thank you for reminding us that it's now left-wingers who are the anti-semites."

The Chomsky syndrome: "See how even-handed I am, the great Linguist-God, willing to put down democratic Israel (located in a sea of feudalism) even though I am Jewish?
How Very Big Of Me, the Einstein of the 21st century!"

crookedwren| 6.3.10 @ 11:37AM

So, what then do we make of John Brennan's calling Jerusalem by the name "Al-Cuds"?

I'm horrified.

ncatty| 6.3.10 @ 2:51PM

Did anyone get a translation of the words he spoke in Arabic during the "Al Quds" speech?

Will Spencer | 6.3.10 @ 11:51AM

Israel has lost it's most important ally, the United States. The Israeli's live in the world's worst neighborhood. They are surrounded by a billion bloodthirsty savages, intent on murdering their children and driving their nation and their race from the Earth.

The Israeli's are nuts. Any sane person would move. Let the crazies keep the Middle East. Let them turn it into an even worse desert. Let them turn Jerusalem into another festering shithole. The Jews would be far better off if the entire Israeli nation relocated to the U.S. -- and the U.S. would be lucky to have them as citizens.

Sean| 6.3.10 @ 12:13PM

Are you crazy? Jews are a huge voting block for Democrats. We need to stop importing leftist voters.

Alan Brooks| 6.3.10 @ 2:39PM

Sean,
You care more about that than Israel?? You are heartless in that respect.

Sean| 6.3.10 @ 10:35PM

It is time to start thinking about our country. It is being ruined by liberals. No need to import more of them. Our very survival is at stake.

Hater| 6.17.10 @ 11:58PM

Let's bring in the savages instead.

Occam's Tool| 5.12.11 @ 3:25PM

Dear Sean:

I doubt that Netanyahu voters would be a big block for the Democrats.

Patrick| 6.3.10 @ 2:58PM

And the the single greatest reason for the Jewish people to be in that very neighborhood is not realized.

Where is the Temple? Where is the Ark? Where is the Menorah? Where is the sacrifice?

long Ben | 6.3.10 @ 11:53AM

Looking at little Judahs' survival all these centuries, it is well to say: the gifts and callings of God are without repentance.

arh0904| 6.3.10 @ 11:55AM

Gen 12:1-3
Now the LORD said to Abram,

" Go forth from your country,
And from your relatives
And from your father's house,
To the land which I will show you;
2 And I will make you a great nation,
And I will bless you,
And make your name great;
And so you shall be a blessing;
3 And I will bless those who bless you,
And the one who curses you I will curse.
And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed."
NASU

Alan| 6.3.10 @ 11:56AM

Israel should stand its ground in the face of the prejudiced rhetoric being flung at it.
Israel existed long before Barak Obama ever showed up and will exist long after he passes out of memory.

mike| 6.3.10 @ 11:59AM

It is the British to blame, with all their destructive designs after WWI. For several centuries Jews and Muslims lived in peace during the Ottoman Empire. All this hatred is fictional and serves the interests of some dard sources.

mzk1| 6.3.10 @ 12:17PM

I'm afraid you need to learn some history. The history of Jews in that area (and Eastern Europe) was a lot like the Black in the old South. You were all right if you "knew your place", until the Moslems suspected you might be getting "uppity".

Not that I DON'T blame the British. But actually it's the Russians who forced the Ottomans into war. The British (and the French, don't forget!) inherited it when the Germans sent Lenin in a sealed train to Russia to start the revolution.

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 12:29PM

Oh how ignorant. Do you know anything about the Armenians (Christians)? Do you also have no knowledge of the writings of islam? The ottoman empire was the seat of islam. The writings of islam couldn't be more violent against the Jews.

Jay| 6.3.10 @ 12:00PM

As a Jew, I chafe at this notion that the survival of the Jews through history is something providential and a part of God's plan.

Jews have survived as a distinct people because of Jewish values and a religious tradition which is rational without all of the afterlife and final judgment nonsense that radicalizes other traditions. The irrational belief in an afterlife motivates and gives radicals license to trash this world and this life for their eternal "reward" in heaven.

mzk1| 6.3.10 @ 12:19PM

It seems you have no knowledge of Judaism. Christians got the idea of Heaven and Hell (and Purgatory!) from us. It's all over the rabbinical writings, not to mention Josephus.

The "religion" you claim to believe in was invented in the 19th century, if not later.

Jay| 6.4.10 @ 3:59AM

I would agree that Judaism has its share of esoteric beliefs, many of which influenced Christian thought and belief. But it would also not be correct to assume that these beliefs are exclusively Jewish. They were quite common among many of the ancient mystery cults, and Christianity borrows heavily from Mithraism.

But back to my original point, keep biblical history/prophesy out of the reasons for why Israel should or should not exist as it does today.

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 12:31PM

You would be known as a Sadducee (do not believe in the afterlife). You are also a humanist (man solves his own problems apart from God). May the God of Israel open your eyes to His truth and righteousness.

jer| 6.3.10 @ 12:04PM

JESUS CHRIST is coming ! Jerusalem is HIS city ! Amen & amen. The gates of hell will not prevail ! Read your BIBLE. The false prophet will come from a muslim nation. It's all written there in black, & white & red. All else is rubbish !

Ryan| 6.3.10 @ 12:44PM

Except...Muslims aren't mentioned in the Bible. Neither are specific times.

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 1:20PM

The muslims were not even a people when the Bible was written. There is an entity upon this earth composed of some 2-3 billion people. Their writings condemn both Christians and Jews. They have set themselves against Israel and greatly desire Jerusalem. Their preferred method of execution is taking off the head by the sword. They are the principle mechanism for terrorism in the world today. They say they believe in a Jesus, but deny He is the Son of God or that He rose from the dead. Pray for discernment and then read the signs that Jesus gave for the end of time.

Ryan| 6.3.10 @ 3:59PM

We can only read the signs and then speculate...because we don't know.

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 4:25PM

I beg to differ. After giving the signs, Jesus said: Matthew 24:33, "So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors." The signs were not given so that we "don't know." As a for-instance look at the data on worldwide earthquakes. The intensity and frequency is greatly increasing - likened to a woman in birth pangs.

Ryan| 6.3.10 @ 4:47PM

That's been happening since Christ said it was going to.

Here's the more important part - that his word will be spread to every nation (reads better as "people group." Study the 10/40 window and how it's shrinking...and that it will take a bit longer to do so.

We, as Christians, have more important things to do than proclaim the apocalypse.

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 5:02PM

And here is an even more important part - watch what happens to Israel, and more importantly Jerusalem. Zechariah 12:2, Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem." This is coming very soon. The nations are raging! I might point out that most of Judah is what is now called the West Bank.

Abdulameer| 6.3.10 @ 12:06PM

Hillyer is really off base when he writes: "So do hateful murderous Arabs and Muslims, fomenting murder masked as religion,..." Doesn't Hillyer know anything about Islam?
Here is a sampling of the doctrines of Islam which motivate the hearts and minds of all religious Moslems:
FROM THE KORAN:
--“ the (only) religion (acceptable) before God is Islam." (3:19)
-- " If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him." (3: 85)
-- “You are the noblest community ever raised up for mankind.” (3:110)
-- The unbelievers among the people of the book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. (98.6).
-- Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve. (8.55)
--The unbelievers are your inveterate enemy. (4:101)
-- Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. (48:29).
-- It is unlawful for a believer to kill another believer, accidents excepted. (4:92)
-- Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. (5:51)
-- Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme. (8:40)
-- Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme. (2:193)
-- The true believers fight for the cause of God, but the infidels fight for the devil. (4:76)
-- We will put terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. (3:151)
-- I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers. (8:12)
FROM THE SAYINGS OF MUHAMMAD:
-- Muhammad said to the Jews: "If you embrace Islam, you will be safe. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. “
-- Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "
-- Mohammed said, "I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah, and whoever says, " None has the right to be worshipped but Allah , his life and property will be saved by me." (otherwise it will not).
-- Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him."
-- Mohammed said, " No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir" (infidel).
-- Muhammad said: "Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, …"
In addition, the most popular manual of Islamic sacred law, approved by the highest Islamic religious authorities of Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Egypt, says: "Jihad means to make war on non-Muslims." What could be clearer than that?
And, how about this:
Ayatollah Khomeini, the most important Moslem leader of the 20th Century, said: "Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those who say this are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured? Islam says: Kill them, put them to the sword and scatter their armies.... Islam says: whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! the sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for the Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other Koranic psalms and Hadiths urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all this mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim."
And, how about this:
From Jihad in Islam by Sayyeed Abdul A'la Maududi, one of the most prolific and most widely read and influential Islamic writers of the 20th Century:
“The goal of Islam is to rule the entire world and submit all of mankind to the faith of Islam. Any nation or power that gets in the way of that goal, Islam will fight and destroy.”
All of this is Islam -- the faith, the belief system, the ideology. This is not "murder masked as religion". This is the religion of murder.

PsychoDad| 6.3.10 @ 12:25PM

Go suck pig dick, murderer.

Ryan| 6.3.10 @ 12:46PM

I suspect the guy is a sockpuppet or something. I seriously doubt a radical Muslim would post here.

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 12:34PM

This is definitely islam - an ideology of hate and war. Their hand is against everyone. It is for this reason, that they CAN NEVER make peace with Israel of Christianity.

Paul| 6.3.10 @ 1:15PM

It looks to me like all of you zealots are nuts. The middle east would be a lot better place without all you people gleaning your "rights" to land from ancient fictional texts.

If God really were on any of your side's then I think that side would have prevailed by now.

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 1:24PM

Paul, All of this shall take place in your generation. We are quickly...I dare say exponentially...accelerating to the end. There is a tremendous spiritual war taking place on the earth today. Those who have eyes to see are involved. Pray to God that He give you eyes to see (a seeking repentant heart).

Talons of Judah| 6.4.10 @ 1:52AM

Any true believer in Islam sees the world in 2 possible states:
Dar Al hareb
Dar Al Islam

Dar Al Hareb is a permanent state of war : Their hand is against everyone until the Infidels convert to Islam.
Dar Al Islam is when we will all be Muslim and the world will be at peace because they either convinced all of us to convert and pray to a black obilisk in Mecca or they killed those that refused.
If we TRULY look at Islam is and what it wants, you have to either go on the offensive or preempt them.
Just look at the Royal Saudi Arabian flag. The Arabic script:
"There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah"
Then look below the script and what do you see? A sword! That says it all. What is the symbol of a Jihadist? A knife or sword. What the weapon of choice used by the Jihadists on the Turkish/Jihadist flotilla to stab Israeli commandos armed with paintball guns? KNIFE! That's it folks, pretty darn simple so let's place our Latte Starbucks coffee aside and see the world of Islam as it truly is, not...the religion of peace...

Patrick| 6.3.10 @ 3:00PM

Don't forget rape, they can't get enough of that!

davelnaf| 6.3.10 @ 12:09PM

The danger in all this for the West is that its wise and good politicians might be inclined, some good long can kick down the road, to begin treating radical Islam as a force of Nature, much as we do lightning, and require—perhaps demand in some instances—that the rest of us become more and more accepting of radical Islam’s militancy, perhaps even of its atrocities. The dysfunctional character of the entire Western political class cannot be underestimated and one might even become wealthy betting against it.

long Ben | 6.3.10 @ 12:17PM

Dear Jay. If the mighty one of Israel is not in it how can it be called religion?

Gerald Stephens| 6.3.10 @ 12:27PM

THE ANSWER...

is as stated by this author, egomania. A condition effected through mental masturbation practiced by non-Jews and Jews alike, which explains how both categories of progressive 'intellectuals' satiate the need to be more than reality bequeathed them.

The sirens heralding an oncoming tornado doubtless strike fear in those fortunate enough to hear the wail. Israel will never fall. The antagonists will be consumed by their own wind.

REMEMBER NOVEMBER!

aidawedo| 6.3.10 @ 12:37PM

One wonders, if the author of this piece of "existential truth" or in other words, a subjective form of truth, Mr. Hillyer as "addled" by a "chemical imbalance" as Mr. Barret. The affliction must be powerfully contagious for it has also affected the "brains" of the U.S. government.

Tom in Michigan| 6.3.10 @ 12:41PM

An excellent article aptly characterizing and describing the Jews, whether in Israel or elsewhere and their enemies as well.

Israel will indeed survive (and prosper!), as she and the Jews themselves have shown time and again that their enemies are no match for them either in physical, mental or moral prowess. One need only read the plethora of venomous posts here and elsewhere or see the recent demonstrations here and abroad to understand the loathsome nature of the anti-Semites who use every incident of Israel and the Jews asserting their God-given rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness to ooze forth from their burrows to spew their Jew-hatred in order to understand why Israel is destined to be the ultimate victor.

These tiny creatures will turn to dust like Shelley’s Ozymandias himself but, the Jews will endure as they have for thousands upon thousands of years. It is this certainty of the anti-Semites’ cosmic insignificance in the face of an Eternal People which feeds their hatred. I would pity them if they worthy of any empathy whatsoever.

This country risks its very soul if it abandons Israel, a beacon of light and democracy (as were we once before succumbing to the false promises of the vile leftists who now control this nation and pervert its principles one-by-one) in an otherwise meanly benighted region. Shame on America if we allow this to happen.

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 12:51PM

True...the only thing left is for Israel to recognize that God is in control. This shall come as the armies of the earth surround Jerusalem. God's purposes shall be to bring Israel to a place of crying out to Him (and God alone), then God Almighty shall quickly dispose of her prideful arrogant enemies (be frightened oh islam - your prophets teachings shall be turned upon you).

Paul| 6.3.10 @ 1:17PM

You guys are scary.

We Know| 6.3.10 @ 1:26PM

I think your fear is "the light." Do not hide in darkness.

Tom in Michigan| 6.3.10 @ 8:34PM

Yeah, well, you should be scared. You and all the other anti-Semites have aligned yourselves with History's inevitable losers. We will cast Islamofascism on the ash heap of history along with Fascism, Nazism, Communism and Statism and then; we will deal with the collaborators.

I know the left better than most of you because I'm an old 60s “rat” myself. I was close to these people before you were even a dirty thought in your Old Man’s brain. Speaking of the 60s, there's an old line from a Doors song ("Five to One”) that goes, "They got the guns, but we got the numbers."

Well, I've got news for you; we've got the guns AND the numbers. We won't go down easy. The anti-Semites will lose. Israel will be preserved and The United States of America will be reclaimed from the left, once and for all. Two of my friends have returned to the US military; one to the Green Berets, the other to the US Navy where he is now a Commander and a seasoned fighter pilot; doing “God’s work-killing the real bad guys” as he says. Another friend of mine has returned to Israel. He fought in the 1973 War and is a trained commando-too old to fight but, not too old to train. This is just the beginning of the popular groundswell of resistance. The “establishment” is now the despicable left. The resistance is the real Americans who believe in her first principles. What irony.

Get your mind right. Get out of your Mom's basement and quit listening to Bill Ayer's acolytes. Leave the dark side while you can.

Bruce| 6.3.10 @ 12:57PM

Would you be defending Israel's actions if they were committed by Iran ?

Israel attacked and illegally boarded a relief ship in international waters and murdered 10 people and injured dozens more.
I support Israel when she is right but Israel went way too far. They became the terrorists !

Bram| 6.3.10 @ 1:20PM

Would Iran let hundreds of American "peace activists" land on its shores? Would the U.S. allow an Al Qaeda convoy to dock in Tijuana?

The people on these "relief ships" knew the deal - Gaza isn't a country, just a craphole run by a terrorist organization. They lost their right to a port after too many rockets came in and were used on Israel.

These people could not care less about Palestinians - they have been using their suffering for 60 years now. It's pathetic and disgusting.

Hate for Israel, anti-Semitism, and jealousy of Israeli freedom and prosperity are the only motivations for this crime.

JS| 6.3.10 @ 2:10PM

I daree say you're a liar. You wouldn't support Israel if all the armies of islam were lined up on her border. Oh wait, they already are.

Israel didn't go far enough. They should have sunk the entire flotilla and let God sort them out.

It is not illegal to defend one's self against any attack.

Blackwatch| 6.3.10 @ 7:34PM

So Bruce, tell us how did the soldiers select which peace activists to murder? was it a racial thing?

or was it that they shot those closest to them? the ones that were intent on murder of an infidel?

Islam is of satan. There is no other rational explanation.

Pady| 6.3.10 @ 1:09PM

This is the most pathetic essay on Israel and US support I have ever read.
It is a list of historical fallacies and clearly shows that the author supports state terrorism, illegal wars , apartheid regimes and religious bigotry. Israel is in direct violation of more that 50 united nations resolutions, it harbors war criminal (as defined by the Geneva conventions), it does not respect international laws regulating high seas, it violates human rights for 43 years by not protecting civilian population and by blockading their access to the most basic food and medications. It violates the IV Geneva Conventions by denying the right to civilian populations to evacuate combat zones.
It spoils and steal the land of others, lies repeatedly to the international community. AND SO DO THE UNITED STATES.
The war in Irak is illegal and wages only to spoil Irakis from their wealth.
The war of Vietnam was started on the false pretense of an attack in the Tonkin gulf.
America lied regarding Pearl Harbor.
America supports dictatures: in Argentina, Guatemala, Colombia.
America attempts coups against democraticaly elected regimes: Venezuela, Iran.
America uses torture routinely in Guantanamo Abu-Graib and other illegal places.
America kills people all over the world because they oppose the empire policy.
Americas tried its armament on its own citizens.
America promotes a system where the few richest can spoil and exploit 90 percent of the rest of the population.
It evens falls on its citizens when they try to oppose a regime that can nowadays only be qualified as being a fascist financial and Militaro-Industrial regime.
Yeah. That is was Israel and America are. And
THAT IS WHY ME A FECKLESS SPINELESS ATHEIST EUROPEAN GIVE MY ENTIRE SUPPORT TO THE MUSLIM WORLD IN ITS STRUGGLE TO LIBERATE ITSELF FROM THE CHRISTIAN AMERICAN ZIONIST WARLORDS,

Bram| 6.3.10 @ 1:22PM

Wow, the crazies are out in force today.

NavyBrat | 6.3.10 @ 1:26PM

I guess since your job with the Provos got downsized, you've now had to take on the mantle of your fellow revolutionary brothers & sisters in Muslim countries right? What is this? A terrorist jobs bank? Too bad the SAS didn't mop the likes of you up back in the day. Now after you're done with your pint, go do a live fire pratice with a suicide vest. You won't be missed.

Bram| 6.3.10 @ 1:58PM

He is just reminiscing about the hot days training with the PLO and the hotter nights with Yasser…

NavyBrat | 6.3.10 @ 2:30PM

See what happened when all those freaks shared tents together in the Bekka Valley? "Revolutionary Love" is in the air.

Occam's Tool| 5.12.11 @ 3:29PM

NavyBrat,

just remember: The Irish offered condolences to the German consulate when Hitler died.

dcd| 6.3.10 @ 1:37PM

The greatest fear the muslim world has is that the US will finally listen to and follow the teachings of the Imans. That is day when Iran, Syria, Afghaistan, and Saudi Arabia will be carpet bombed till the populations are wiped out.

Tim*| 6.3.10 @ 3:25PM

We don't need lectures from Socialistic Euro-Trash ,who needed Modern United States Military and Economic Power to save Europeans' sorry keisters.

Ryan| 6.3.10 @ 4:02PM

And what do the Muslims want? Have you asked yourself that?

Joinin| 6.3.10 @ 4:30PM

Clearly, they want a world that is submitted to the god they call allah, but Christians call the devil. muhammad claimed to be allah's prophet. Look at his nature and compare with the devil. He was a rapist, mass murderer, liar, deceiver, pedophile, thief, abuser of woman, etc.

Patrick| 6.3.10 @ 4:58PM

Namely they want you to be a castrated slave while they rape your mother, wife, and daughters.

aidawedo| 6.3.10 @ 6:30PM

As long as you listing coups: America perpetuated a coup in Haiti against the democratically elected government.

aidawedo| 6.3.10 @ 6:36PM

Two coups 1991 and 2004 -- under the regimes of Shrub I and Shrub II.

aidawedo| 6.3.10 @ 6:34PM

America is evidently planning to protect the Israeli pirates who committed murder in international waters on Monday, just as they protected Israel when it attached the USS Liberty and killed 34 U.S. sailors and wounded 173 in 1967.

Israel is a failed state.

Margie| 6.3.10 @ 7:29PM

And you are a failed liar.

Ben Z | 6.3.10 @ 1:17PM

Pady..Why if Muslims are so good..why do they kill each other. That fact alone erases everything you write in you Jew hating America hating heart! The Muslims throw a bomb in a mosque..don't they pray to the same Allah! Islam is a curse to itself!

Dixie Pixie| 6.3.10 @ 4:16PM

Greetings Ben and Norm

Another point in support of your argument.
In 2/22/2006 Saudi Wahhabi Jihadists nearly destroyed the Golden Mosque in a near successful attempt to foment a Sunni vs Shia civil war.
How peaceful is that sect of Islam to foment the mass death of both the Sunni and Shia so as to rule after both sides have military exhausted them selves. After all that was the way the Taliban rose to power after an Afghan Civil War burned itself out. The death of millions was not even commented upon by any of the usual “bleeding hearts”

In short Islam has shown it will kill any where between 15% to 50% of its population in the name of Allah just so one faction or sect can rule.

Norm D | 6.3.10 @ 1:30PM

Many forget that in 1947 two states were mandated by the UN! One Jewish ..One Arab! But the new de-colonialized arab states (owned by Europe) voted and lsot so they wen tto war and LOST! Ever since Israel has won the wars against them. But Israel wins and has to beg for peace! Its un heard of in history,..winners in wars dictate the terms of the enemy they beat! See Germany and Japan in 1945! Israel keep alert and ready those bombers with those nukes 24/7! NEVER AGAIN! And stop usinf "paintball buns"..did u expect those terrorists on that boat welcome the IDF with tea and cake?

Norm D | 6.3.10 @ 1:36PM

ABDULAMEER...good post you said it well! Islam loves and worships death. They don t care how many fellow Muslism are killed...they kill each other every day in Iraq, pakistan ,a nd Afganistan! Well said Abdul!

Capt. Rainer| 6.3.10 @ 1:38PM

Excellent piece, Quin. And just think, you could be writing about Alabama politics right now if you were still at the P-R.

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 1:41PM

List of the UN resolution by number and date related to Israel.
In terms of war crimes take your pick!:

233 06-Jun-67
Calls for an immediate cease-fire and cessation of all military activities.
234 07-Jun-67
Demands a cease-fire.
237 14-Jun-67
Calls upon the Government of Israel to ensure the safety, welfare and security of the inhabitants, facilitate the return of those inhabitants who have fled the areas since the outbreak of the hostilities and recommends the scrupulous respect of the humanitarian principles contained in the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949.
242 22-Nov-67
Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include: withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict; and termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force.
248 24-Mar-68
Deplores the loss of life and heavy damage to property. Condemns the military action launched by Israel in flagrant violation of the U.N. Charter and the cease-fire resolution. Calls upon Israel to desist from acts or activities in contravention of resolution 237 (1967). (This was an attack against Karameh, Jordan.)
250 27-Apr-68
Calls upon Israel to refrain from holding the military parade in Jerusalem which is contemplated for 2 May 1968.
251 02-May-68
Deeply deplores the holding by Israel of the military parade in Jerusalem on 2 May 1968 in disregard of the unanimous decision adopted by the Council on 27 April 1968.
252 21-May-68
Deplores the failure of Israel to comply with General Assembly resolutions 2253 (ES-V) and 2254 (ES-V) of 4 and 14 July 1967. Considers that all legislative and administrative measures taken by Israel, including the expropriation of land and properties thereon, which tend to change the legal status of Jerusalem, are invalid and cannot change the status. Urgently calls upon Israel to rescind all such measures taken and to desist from further actions changing the status of Jerusalem.
259 27-Sep-68
Deplores the delay in implementation of resolution 237 (1967) because of the conditions still being set by Israel for receiving a Special Representative of the Secretary-General. Requests the Secretary-General to urgently dispatch a Special Representative to the Arab territories under military occupation by Israel following the hostilities of 5 June 1967 and to report on the implementation of resolution 237 (1967).
267 03-Jul-69
Reaffirms the established principle that the acquisition of territory by military conquest is inadmissible. Deplores the failure of Israel to show any regard for the resolutions of the General Assembly and the Security Council. Censures in the strongest terms all measures taken to change the status of the city of Jerusalem. Urgently calls once more on Israel to rescind all measures taken by it to change the status of Jerusalem and in the future to refrain from all actions likely to have such an effect

271 15-Sep-69
Grieved at the extensive damage caused by arson to the Holy Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem on 21 August 1969 under the military occupation of Israel; calls upon Israel to scrupulously observe the provisions of the Geneva Conventions and international law governing military occupation.

298 25-Sep-71
Deplores the failure of Israel to respect previous U.N. resolutions concerning measures and actions by Israel purporting to affect the status of the city of Jerusalem. Confirms that all legislative and administrative actions taken by Israel … are totally invalid and cannot change that status. Urgently calls upon Israel to rescind all such measures….

338 22-Oct-73
Calls for an immediate cease-fire and termination of all military activity. Calls upon the parties concerned to start immediately after the cease-fire the implementation of Security Council resolution 242 (1967) in all of its parts....

339 23-Oct-73
Refers to resolution 338 (1973); confirms its decision on immediate cessation of all military actions; and requests the Secretary-General to take measures for immediate dispatch of U.N. observers to supervise observance of the cease-fire.

381 30-Nov-75
Expresses concern over the continued state of tension in the area. Decides to reconvene on 12 January 1976 to continue the debate on the Middle East problem including the Palestinian question, taking into account all relevant U.N. resolutions.

425 19 Mar 978
Calls for the strict respect for the territorial integrity, sovereignty and political independence of Lebanon. Calls upon Israel immediately to cease its military action against Lebanese territorial integrity and withdraw forthwith its forces from all Lebanese territory. Decides to establish immediately under its authority a United Nations Interim Force in Southern Lebanon (UNIFIL).

446 22-Mar-79
Determines that the policy and practices of Israel in establishing settlements in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967 have no legal validity and constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East. Calls once more upon Israel, as the occupying power, to abide scrupulously by the 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention, to rescind its previous measures and to desist from taking any action which would result in changing the legal status and geographical nature and materially affecting the demographic composition of the Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem, and in particular, not to transfer parts of its own civilian population into the occupied Arab territories.

452 20-Jul-79
Calls upon the government and people of Israel to cease, on an urgent basis, the establishment, construction and planning of settlements in the Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem.

465 01-Mar-80
Determines that all measures taken by Israel to change the physical character, composition, institutional structure or status of the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem, or any part thereof, have no legal validity and that Israel's policy and practices of settling parts of its population and new immigrants in those territories constitute a flagrant violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention and also constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East. Strongly deplores the continuation and persistence of Israel in pursuing those policies and practices. Calls upon the government and people of Israel to rescind those measures, to dismantle the existing settlements and in particular to cease, on an urgent basis, the establishment, construction and planning of settlements in the Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem.
Calls upon all States not to provide Israel with any assistance to be used specifically in connection with settlements in the occupied territories; and requests the Commission to continue examining the situation relating to settlements, to investigate the reported serious depletion of natural resources, particularly water, with a view to ensuring protection of those important natural resources of the territories under occupation.

468 08-May-80
Recalling the Geneva Convention of 1949 and expressing deep concern at the expulsion by the Israeli military occupation authorities of the Mayors of Hebron and Halhoul and of the Sharia Judge of Hebron, calls upon Israel as occupying Power to rescind these illegal measures and to facilitate the immediate return of the expelled Palestinian leaders.

469 20-May-80
Strongly deplores the failure of Israel to implement resolution 468 (1968). Calls again upon the Government of Israel, as occupying Power, to rescind the illegal measures taken by the Israeli military occupation authorities in expelling the Mayors of Hebron and Halhoul and the Sharia Judge of Hebron.

471 05-Jun-80
Expresses deep concern that the Jewish settlers in the occupied Arab territories are allowed to carry arms thus enabling them to perpetrate crimes against the civilian population. Calls for the immediate apprehension and prosecution of the perpetrators of these crimes and condemns the assassination attempts on the lives of the Mayors of Nablus, Ramallah and Al-Bireh. Expresses deep concern that Israel, as occupying Power, has failed to provide adequate protection to the civilian population in the occupied territories in conformity with the provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention. Calls again upon the Government of Israel to respect and comply with the provisions of the Convention as well as with the resolutions of the Council, calls once again upon all States not to provide Israel with any assistance to be used specifically in connection with settlements in the occupied territories. Reaffirms the overriding necessity to end the prolonged occupation of Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem.

476 30-Jun-80
Reaffirms the overriding necessity to end the prolonged occupation of Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem. Strongly deplores the continued refusal of Israel, the occupying Power, to comply with the relevant resolutions of the Security Council and the General Assembly. Reiterates that all measures taken by Israel which have altered the geographic, demographic and historical character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem are null and void and must be rescinded in compliance with the relevant resolutions of the Security Council. Reaffirms that all such measures and actions constitute a flagrant violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. Reaffirms its determination in the event of non-compliance by Israel to examine practical ways and means in accordance with relevant provisions of the U.N. Charter to secure full implementation of this resolution.

478 20-Aug-80
Censures in the strongest terms the enactment by Israel of the "basic law" on Jerusalem and the refusal to comply with relevant Security Council resolutions. Affirms that the enactment of the "basic law" by Israel constitutes a violation of international law and does not affect the continued application of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949 in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since June 1967, including Jerusalem. Determines that all legislative and administrative measures and actions taken by Israel, the occupying Power, which have altered or purport to alter the character and the status of the Holy City of Jerusalem, and in particular, the recent "basic law" on Jerusalem, are null and void and must be rescinded forthwith. Decides not to recognize the "basic law" and such other actions by Israel that, as a result of this law, seek to alter the character and status of Jerusalem. Calls upon all members of the United Nations (a) to accept this decision, (b) and upon those States that have established diplomatic Missions in Jerusalem to withdraw such Missions from the Holy City.

484 19-Dec-80
Expressing grave concern at the expulsion by Israel of the Mayor of Hebron and the Mayor of Halhoul, calls upon Israel, the occupying Power, to adhere to the provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention. Declares it imperative that they be enabled to return to their homes and resume their responsibilities.

508 05-Jun-82
Calls upon the parties to the conflict to cease immediately and simultaneously all military activities within Lebanon and across the Lebanese-Israeli border. Requests all Member States which are in a position to do so to bring their influence to bear upon those concerned so that the cessation of hostilities declared by Security Council resolution 490 (1981) can be respected. (Beginning of the Israeli invasion of Lebanon.)

509 06-Jun-82
Demands that Israel withdraw all its military forces forthwith and unconditionally to the internationally recognized boundaries of Lebanon and demands that all parties observe strictly the terms of paragraph 1 of resolution 508 (1982).

512 19-Jun-82
Expressing deep concern at the suffering of the Lebanese and Palestinian civilian populations, calls upon all the parties to the conflict to respect the rights of the civilian populations, to refrain from all acts of violence against those populations and to take all appropriate measures to alleviate the suffering caused by the conflict.

513 04-Jul-82
Expressing alarm at the continued sufferings of the Lebanese and Palestinian civilian populations in southern Lebanon and in west Beirut, calls for respect for the rights of the civilian populations without any discrimination and repudiates all acts of violence against those populations. Calls further for the restoration of the normal supply of vital facilities such as water, electricity, food and medical provisions, particularly in Beirut.

515 29-Jul-82
Demands that the government of Israel lift immediately the blockade of the city of Beirut in order to permit the dispatch of supplies to meet the urgent needs of the civilian population.

516 01-Aug-82
Confirms its previous resolutions and authorizes the Secretary-General to deploy immediately, on the request of the Government of Lebanon, U.N. observers to monitor the situation in and around Beirut.

517 04-Aug-82
Confirms once again its demand for an immediate cease-fire and withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon. Censures Israel for its failure to comply with the above resolutions. Takes note of the decision of the Palestine Liberation Organization to move the Palestinian armed forces from Beirut and authorizes the Secretary-General to increase the number of U.N. observers in and around Beirut.

518 12-Aug-82
Demands that Israel and all parties to the conflict observe strictly the terms of Security Council resolutions relevant to the immediate cessation of all military activities within Lebanon and, particularly, in and around Beirut. Demands the immediate lifting of all restrictions on the city of Beirut

520 17-Sep-82
Condemns the recent Israeli incursions into Beirut in violation of the cease-fire agreements and of Security Council resolutions. Demands an immediate return to the positions occupied by Israel before 15 September 1982, as a first step towards the full implementation of Security Council resolutions.

521 19-Sep-82
Condemns the criminal massacre of Palestinian civilians in Beirut; reaffirms its resolutions 512 (1982) and 513 (1982), which call for respect for the rights of the civilian populations without any discrimination, and repudiates all acts of violence against those populations. Requests the Secretary-General, as a matter of urgency, to initiate appropriate consultations and, in particular, consultations with the Government of Lebanon on additional steps which the Security Council might take, including the possible deployment of United Nations forces, to assist that government in ensuring full protection for the civilian populations in and around Beirut. (Massacre of Sabra and Shattilla refugee camps while eastern Beirut was under Israeli military occupation.)

573 04-Oct-85
Condemns vigorously the act of armed aggression perpetrated by Israel against Tunisian territory in flagrant violation of the U.N. Charter, international law and norms of conduct; and demands that Israel refrain from perpetrating such acts of aggression or from threatening to do so. (Israeli raid against PLO Headquarters in Hammam Al-Shut)

592 08-Dec-86
Strongly deplores the opening of fire by the Israeli army resulting in the death and the wounding of defenseless students at Bir Zeit University. Calls upon Israel to abide immediately and scrupulously by the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949. Calls upon Israel to release any person or persons detained as a result of the recent events at Bir Zeit University.

605 22-Dec-87
Strongly deplores those policies and practices of Israel, the occupying Power, which violate the human rights of the Palestinian people in the occupied territories, particularly the opening of fire by the Israeli army, resulting in the killing and wounding of defenseless Palestinian civilians. Calls once again upon Israel, the occupying Power, to abide immediately and scrupulously by the Fourth Geneva Convention.

607 05-Jan-88
Calls upon Israel to refrain from deporting any Palestinian civilians from the occupied territories; and strongly requests it to abide by its obligations arising from the Fourth Geneva Convention.

608 14-Jan-88
Reaffirming resolution 607 (1988) of 5 January 1988, deeply regrets that Israel, the occupying Power, in defiance of U.N. resolutions, has deported Palestinian civilians. Calls upon Israel to rescind the orders and to desist from forthwith deporting any other Palestinian civilians from the occupied territories.

611 25-Apr-88
Having noted with concern that the aggression perpetrated on 16 April 1988 in the locality of Sidi Bou Said (Tunisia) has caused loss of human life, particularly the assassination of Mr. Khalil Al-Wazir, condemns vigorously the aggression perpetrated against the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Tunisia in flagrant violation of the U.N. Charter; and urges Member States to take measures to prevent such acts against the sovereignty and territorial integrity of all States. (Al-Wazir (Abu-Jihad) was the Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Palestine Liberation Organization.)

636 06-Jul-89
Deeply regrets the continuing deportation by Israel, the occupying Power, of Palestinian civilians. Calls upon Israel to ensure the safe and immediate return to the occupied Palestinian territories of those deported and to desist forthwith from deporting any other Palestinian civilians. Reaffirms that the Fourth Geneva Convention is applicable to the Palestinian territories, occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem, and to the other occupied Arab territories.

641 30-Aug-89
Deplores Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinian civilians. Calls upon Israel to ensure the safe and immediate return to the occupied Palestinian territories of those deported and to desist forthwith from deporting any other Palestinian civilians. Reaffirms that the Fourth Geneva Convention is applicable to the Palestinian territories, occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem, and to the other occupied Arab territories.

672 12-Oct-90
Reaffirming that a just and lasting solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict must be based on its resolutions 242 (1967) and 338 (1973) through an active negotiating process which takes into account the right to security for all States in the region, including Israel, as well as the legitimate political rights of the Palestinian people. Expresses alarm at the violence which took place on 8 October at Al-Haram Al-Sharif and other Holy Places of Jerusalem, resulting in over twenty Palestinian deaths and the injury of more than one hundred and fifty people, including Palestinian civilians and innocent worshippers. Condemns especially the acts of violence committed by the Israeli security forces, resulting in injuries and loss of human life. Calls upon Israel, the occupying Power, to abide scrupulously by its legal obligations under the Fourth Geneva Convention.

673 24-Oct-90
Deplores the refusal of the Israeli Government to receive the mission of the Secretary-General to the region in violation of resolution 672 (1990).
681 20-Dec-90 Expresses its grave concern over the rejection by Israel of its resolutions 672 (1990) and 673 (1990). Deplores the decision by the Government of Israel, the occupying Power, to resume the deportation of Palestinian civilians in the occupied territories. Urges the Government of Israel to accept the de jure applicability of the Fourth Geneva Convention to all the territories occupied by Israel since 1967

694 24-May-91
Declares that the action of the Israeli authorities of deporting four Palestinians on 18 May is in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention, which is applicable to all the Palestinian territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem. Deplores this action and reiterates that Israel refrain from deporting any Palestinian civilian from the occupied territories and ensure the safe and immediate return of all those deported.

726 06-Jan-92
Strongly condemns the decision of Israel, the occupying Power, to resume deportation of Palestinian civilians. Reaffirms the applicability of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949 to all the Palestinian territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem. Requests Israel to ensure the safe and immediate return of all those deported.

799 18-Dec-92
Strongly condemns the action taken by Israel, the occupying Power, to deport hundreds of Palestinian civilians (on 17 December 1992). Expresses its firm opposition to any such deportations by Israel. Reaffirms the applicability of the Fourth Geneva Convention to all the Palestinian territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem. Demands that Israel ensure the safe and immediate return to the occupied territories of all those deported.

904 18-Mar-94
Strongly condemns the massacre in Hebron committed against Palestinian worshippers in Al-Ibrahimi Mosque, on 25 February 1994, during the holy month of Ramadan, and its aftermath which took the lives of more than 50 Palestinian civilians and injured several hundred others. Calls upon Israel, the occupying Power, to continue to take and implement measures, including,inter alia, confiscation of arms, with the aim of preventing illegal acts of violence by Israeli settlers. Calls for measures to be taken to guarantee the safety and protection of the Palestinian civilians throughout the occupied territory, including, inter alia, a temporary international or foreign presence, which was provided for in the Declaration of Principles, within the context of the ongoing peace process.

1073 28-Sep-96
Expresses its deep concern about the tragic events in Jerusalem and the areas of Nablus, Ramallah, Bethlehem and the Gaza Strip, which resulted in a high number of deaths and injuries among the Palestinian civilians. Calls for the immediate cessation and reversal of all acts which have resulted in the aggravation of the situation and which have negative implications for the Middle East peace process. Calls for the safety and protection of Palestinian civilians to be ensured. Calls for the immediate resumption of negotiations within the Middle East peace process on its agreed basis and the timely implementation of the agreements reached. (The draft resolution was issued officially as a presidential text, which normally indicates unanimity prior to the vote.)

1322 07-Oct-00
Reaffirms that a just and lasting solution to the Arab and Israeli conflict must be based on its resolutions 242 (1967) of 22 November 1967 and 338 (1973) of 22 October 1973, through an active negotiating process. Deplores the provocation carried out at Al-Haram Al-Sharif in Jerusalem on 28 September 2000, and the subsequent violence there and at other Holy Places, as well as in other areas throughout the territories occupied by Israel since 1968, resulting in over 80 Palestinian deaths and many other casualties. Condemns acts of violence, especially the excessive use of force against Palestinians, resulting in injury and loss of human life. Calls upon Israel, the occupying Power, to abide scrupulously by its legal obligations and its responsibilities under the Fourth Geneva. Calls for the immediate cessation of violence, and for all necessary steps to be taken to ensure that violence ceases, that new provocative actions are avoided, and that the situation returns to normality. Stresses the importance of establishing a mechanism for a speedy and objective inquiry into the tragic events of the last few days with the aim of preventing their repetition.

Bram| 6.3.10 @ 2:04PM

I agree completely - the UN is worthless and we should have stopped contributing to the farce decades ago.

Ms. Jones| 6.4.10 @ 10:52AM

And if the UN told America to roll over and play dead, would we? I think not.

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 1:45PM

For those who believes Israel won all its wars here are some references:

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=37468
http://www.boston.com/bostongl.....ts_defeat/

BEATEN BY A LOW TECH PATRIOTIC ARMY OF LEBABNON

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 1:47PM

Hey Ded,

You tried carpet bombing in Viet-Nam remember?

Bram| 6.3.10 @ 2:03PM

False. The U.S. bombed grid squares of jungle to interdict NVA supply routes. We never "carpet bombed" NV population centers.

We did bomb German and Japanese population centers in WWII - till the rubble bounced or burned.

ncatty| 6.3.10 @ 2:57PM

Apparently we are still bombing Germany. A WW2 500 kg bomb detonated in Goettingen this week, killing several.

cnv| 6.3.10 @ 3:37PM

Plenty of Iman call for and encourage the bombing of enemy civilian populations as part of an asymetric war policy. This policy however depends on the opponent being disproportionatly restrained. If the US followed the played along with the whole fatwah and wantonly kill civilians there would be nothing left.
It's time the US followed the teachings of Islam. Mercy is for the weak, its time to slaughter.

Dixie Pixie| 6.3.10 @ 1:49PM

So what is Ben Stein opinion on the latest Israeli controversy.
Or does he save his opinions for the paying customers.

GW| 6.3.10 @ 4:28PM

Wow. You'd hate to scroll down the main page wouldn't you? (He commented yesterday, for free, on AmSpec).

Dixie Pixie| 6.3.10 @ 7:50PM

Actually I did read it and was hoping for more than a random brain droppings.

The longstanding standard naval practice is to stop a suspect ship with naval gunfire if it will not respond. It is also standard practice to search a ship with ARMED guards. The purpose in enforcing dictates with military force is to USE FORCE.

Israels problem was they tried to win brownie points by being “nice”.

I was just hoping for a higher level of analysis from Ben Stein.

Tom in Michigan| 6.3.10 @ 1:55PM

Coming back and reading some of the subsequent posts just confirms what scum anti-Semites are.

The UN is a cesspool of anti-Semitism.

Devasahayam| 6.3.10 @ 2:29PM

Only problem here was comparing Useless Numpties to a cesspool; every cesspool or drainage-ditch which I have seen--and I have seen LOTS of them, particularly in Indian cities, some quite foul--compared to UN would seem as clean as a newly-opened swimming-pool!

Tom in Michigan| 6.3.10 @ 1:58PM

Further to my condemnation of anti-Semites. Barack's buddies were involved in this. From the American Thinker blog:
"Former Weather Underground leaders William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, as well as Code Pink founder Jodie Evans, helped organize the Free Gaza Movement, which launched the six-ship flotilla from Turkey to Israel that ended in a violent clash with Israeli Defense Forces, BigGovernment.com reported.
In January, the trio were spotted in Egypt attempting to stir up crowds on the streets with 1,400 other left-wing activists after the Egyptian government refused to allow Free Gaza Movement members to enter the Gaza Strip. About 100 marchers were eventually allowed to cross the border, where they were met by former Hamas prime minister Ismail Haniyeh.

BigGovernment quotes author Philip Weiss, who wrote that he witnessed Ayers and Dohrn arguing with fellow activists over whether to accept Egypt's offer to allow a small number of them into Gaza:"

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 2:01PM

"Pady..Why if Muslims are so good..why do they kill each other?"

I have not said that Muslims were good.
If you make a reference to the Iran Irak war, well shall I remind you that this war was fueled on both sides by the occidental democracy who were really happy to sell weapons to both belligerents.
-Regarding the first gulf war shall I remind you that Koweit is a Muslim dictature artificially created at the end of the decolonization by the British empire and that historically it has been part of Irak f before Irak was dispossessed of it. Therefore, Irak had an historical right to recover it.
- Lebanon
The situation in Lebanon has been fueled for decades by Israel who illegaly invaded that country several times.
- Most of the Arabic countries are artificial creations who do not correspond to historical territories. An example is the situation of the Jurdes, who do not have a country, and whose faith was decided without their consent by the Turks the Brits.

SO yes there are and have been conflicts in the Arabic world but none of them has ever reached the scale of savagery of the conflicts waged by occident: Irak, Viet Nam, WW II, WW I, Colonization Wars, War of Opium, American Civil war, Spanish Civil war, French Revolution are just a few examples of the savagery of "democracies".
No country in the world has ever killed as many people as the United States of America. who by the way, started its history, by the genocide of American Indians.

So what you call violent terrorist Muslims are in reality national resistants defending their homeland.

JS| 6.3.10 @ 2:26PM

"No country in the world has ever killed as many people as the United States of America. who by the way, started its history, by the genocide of American Indians. "

Really? So us awful evil Americans killed more people than your buddy Joe Stalin or your uncle Mao Ze Dung? 120,000,000+ dead between them.

You were educated in guberment skrewels weren't you? I was too but I looked up the information myself and learned the truth so you have no excuse.

You forgot about us being imperialists as well. If you live in the US, please leave. You are smelling up the continent.

I won't speak to the rest of your rubbish except to ask 'what did waring indian tribes do to one another?' They killed all the men, raped all the women and enslaved all the children. In other words they wiped them out, or to use your words committed genocide. Where is your condemnation of that? Hypocrite.

Stop trying to apply today's values on history. It makes you look stupid - and you just can't fix stupid.

Ryan| 6.3.10 @ 4:09PM

If anyone committed genocide against the Native Americans, it was Europeans when they accidentally - and unknowingly - brought disease over.

Every one of the wars you mentioned had monarchies/dictatorships on the wrong side of the war and democracies on the right side (if they were involved).

Muslims were running rampant in the Middle East since Mohammed, killing people.

And more deaths have been done in the name of pagan Nazism, atheistic communism, and militant Islamism than any Christianized nation.

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 2:10PM

Tom.
"The UN is a cesspool of anti-Semitism."
Almost Funny basic poorly effective propaganda.

Here is something from that will interest you...
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article9887.shtml

Andy_Krow| 6.3.10 @ 2:10PM

re: Pady
"THAT IS WHY ME A FECKLESS SPINELESS ATHEIST EUROPEAN GIVE MY ENTIRE SUPPORT TO THE MUSLIM WORLD IN ITS STRUGGLE TO LIBERATE ITSELF FROM THE CHRISTIAN AMERICAN ZIONIST WARLORDS"

So, Pady... Since you're an atheist and since all those crazies are calling for your head... (you know, Islam, Allah, Mullah, Poobah... etc), You'll gladly expose your neck to their sword... Right??

Patrick| 6.3.10 @ 5:02PM

Since Paddy is a willing dhminn, they will only require him to expose his manhood. Considering what a whining eunuch he already is, the procedure will mostly be verification.

Paddy| 6.4.10 @ 3:00AM

Insults? How easy!
You just do not have an argument.
Probably because what you call your manhood has the same tiny proportion than your flat brain.

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 2:19PM

Bram

Sorry, I did not get it right then.

So you are speaking of carpet bombing towns and killing without any discrimination the population? right?

That is a war crime and probably qualifies as a crime against humanity (as defined by the international court at the Nuremberg trial)

Are you suggesting that Israel or an occidental country should behave regarding the Mulims like Nazis ?
I am not surprised that you are a supporter of Israel then.

For your information here is a link to the definition of crime against humanity.
Things Israel and The US do....like the guy on the picture.
http://www.duhaime.org/legaldi.....anity.aspx
You will notice that it includes population displacement: something America did during the war in Yugoslavia to the Serbs.....but you might have forgotten that, at the time the Muslim Croates were on your side as they were on the side of Hitler during WWII......

Bram| 6.3.10 @ 2:28PM

Just correcting your historical ignorance.

How does launching a rocket at Tel Aviv rank in your legalistic mind? Or the Soviets kicking the Germans out of Prussia? I don't hear Germans crying about their "right of return" 65 years later.

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 3:16PM

- How using white phosphorus and depleted uranium ammunition on civilians ranks in your Zionist mindset?
- Effectively, all the Germans from Prussia were evicted, so were the one of Czechia or the one living in Ukraine/ Good part of them were deported/massacred by the communists the other emigrated to Germany or other countries.
That is the reason why for example the city of Prague (Czech Rep.) has a German influenced architecture, as quite a few cities in Poland.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P.....st_dynasty

The Germans had lost the war, they were not in a position to claim for anything, surely not for territory they presumably would have lived in 2000 years ago.
http://www.care2.com/c2c/group.....st=1333138

Bram| 6.3.10 @ 3:27PM

Okay, I agree - the Israelis should have evicted the Arabs living in the lands they won after each war, just like the Russians did to the Germans. They could have avoided the whole "Palestinian" problem.

The Arabs, after all, had lost badly in '56, '67, and '73.

"The ARABS had lost the war, they were not in a position to claim for anything, surely not for territory they presumably would have lived in 2000 years ago."

Devasahayam| 6.3.10 @ 2:26PM

Note; I rarely see (even among my own, which is a shame) comparisons/analogues of events affecting Israel to those affecting India--such as the fact that both nations have been throughout their independent (post-1945) history targets of Muslim aggression.

The specific analogue for the flotilla-raid is 1999 "Atlantique Incident" in which a Pakistan Navy reconnaisance aircraft (specifically, a French-built Atlantique) was shot down by Indian Air Force Squadron Leader P.K. Bundela. Pakistan shilled much about this, never getting consistent in its claims how far the aircraft was from the Indian border--though ALL of its claims would require the aircraft to have flown a considerable distance AFTER being shot down, no mean feat as it crashed in a region centred ONE mile inside Pakistan territory (and some debris falling in India due to dispersal). Given that Pakistan had committed aggression EARLIER in 1999 (and been repulsed) against India at Kargil, India showed great restraint in not launching war with its horrible western neighbour. Similarly, Israel--knowing full well that this flotilla was to aid Hamas which had committed many acts of open aggression against Israel and which will not (unlike Pakistan wrt India) even RECOGNISE Israel as a nation--showed great restraint by not sinking the flotilla straight-off!

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 2:59PM

1 - HAMAS has been democratically elected by the Palestinian people and its legitimacy cannot be rebuffed.
2 - "Atlantique Incident"
The Pakistani place did no answer to the Indian warnings and was shot WITHIN the Indian waters the coordinates are the following: 23°54′N 68°16′E
3 - I'd like to bring to your attention that it is not the first time Israel commits an act of piracy against a disarmed ship. It already occurred against an AMRICAN SHIP the USS LIBERTY on June 8, 1967. Please see the following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRZSzdQuOqM

http://www.gtr5.com/

Ryan| 6.3.10 @ 4:12PM

Hamas and Hezbollah remain illegitimate as long as they hold the Priories of Zion as fact and not proven fraud, and as long as they bilk their people out of millions of dollars, and as long as they hold eradication of a people as policy.

That has no place in the civilized world.

Talons of Judah| 6.4.10 @ 5:48AM

Paddy - How can you say that the HAMAS was democratically elected? They are a FACTION of the many factions within PLO society. They did indeed gain many seatas in the PLO Parliament but then they staged a VIOLENT COUP, killing HUNDREDS of Fatah supporters including throwing some off the top of tall buildings and blowing off the kneecaps of others (a' la IRA). So, perhaps a majority of Gazans voted for them but what about the rest of the PLO population living in the West Bank? hey're Palestinians too though they do not agree with HAMAS, they follow the so-called PLO "moderates" and hate HAMAS so wo represents the Palestinans - Christ! They're divided on how to kill the Jews...either quickly (HAMAS) or in a slow, "salami" fashion (FATAH). They are a terrorist organization who, since ISRAEL LEFT the Gaza strip have consistently shelled Israel's towns and cities! Where does this FREE Gaza thing come from? NO ISRAELI SITS IN GAZA today. Ask Israeli Arabs (they call themselves "Palestinians") or Ramallah-based (FATAH) Arabs, where they would want to raise thier kids - Gaza, under HAMASTAN rule or in Ramallah, under PLO (FATAH) rule? Ask 'em...

Andy_Krow| 6.3.10 @ 2:27PM

Ummm... Paddy...

So refresh my memory, please.
Your words:
"So you are speaking of carpet bombing towns and killing without any discrimination the population? right?

That is a war crime and probably qualifies as a crime against humanity (as defined by the international court at the Nuremberg trial) "

Since we carpet bombed Dresden (and many other German cities) in WWII, were the Allies brought up on charges at the Nuremberg Trial(s)? I don't recall...

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 2:41PM

No they were not.
It still does not mean that these bombing do not qualify, in particular in the case of Dresden, as crime against humanity.
In Dresden there was no military target justifying a raid of that magnitude.

http://www.fff.org/freedom/0995f.asp
http://proliberty.com/observer/20030402.htm

Bram| 6.3.10 @ 3:21PM

Does firing a rocket at civilians in Tel Aviv qualify as a war crime?

zoft | 6.3.10 @ 2:30PM

going whorse evrday...

paddy| 6.3.10 @ 2:31PM

to Andy_Krow
Andy I think you did not get it. No I would not expose my neck to their sword. But I would not take their land, bomb their families either.

Lets put it in figures:
During the last Israeli aggression the IDF killed:
Palestinian combatants 330/375
Palestinian non-combatants 762
Women 107
Minors/Children 318
Police officers 248
Palestinian TOTAL 1385
The israeli losses are:
Israeli combatants 10
Israeli non-combatants 3
Israeli TOTAL 13

So better said, for one Israeli dead, Israel killed 10 palestinians. Hitler was doing the same with Polish people during WWII when the polish resistance was killing one German.....

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_War
I let you appreciate the crude reality of these figures.

Bram| 6.3.10 @ 2:38PM

Pady - Come on! Everyone knows that Israelis are worth far more than Palestinians. That is why the PLO and Hamas trade one Israeli soldier back for hundreds of captured Palestinians. Hamas can't be wrong on this topic.

paddy| 6.3.10 @ 2:40PM

Yeah, and New York rabbis don't get it wrong either when they trade organs, do they?

Bram| 6.3.10 @ 3:08PM

Actually, here in the U.S. we have what is called "rule of law," so the rabbis in question will be doing their teaching from the jailhouse.

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 4:35PM

I guess it is not Guantanamo where the US detain civilians illegally and without the right to trial ...
You know, that torture center opened by the Bush administration and that Obama promised to close...
Evidently, it is not going to happen, the freed prisoners would talk.

Regarding the rule of law I shall remind you that the confiscation of weapons during the military operations in the new Orlean area following hurricane Katrina are in direct violation of the second amendment of the american constitution. Regarding the deployment of the military on the territory of the United States it is in contradiction with the Posse Comitatus Act. The patriot act actually grants the right to the federal state to detain indefinitely Americans and denies the right to due course of justice.
I shall also remind you that the Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq, has such a wide scope that it allows the confiscation of the properties of anybody who would dare to oppose the American policy in the middle east.

So, yes, Rule of Law as you say, I'd say Rule Of Dictatorial Law, denial of freedom of expression, denial of right to trial, denial of human rights, use of the army against civilian populations, coercion, intimidation, propaganda. The attributes of a dictature, not of a democracy.

Nick| 6.3.10 @ 4:48PM

Paddy,

Ever heard of "spell-check" or Dictionary.com?
How about 4th grade grammar?

Ryan| 6.3.10 @ 4:49PM

Guantanamo holds enemy combatants captured on the field of battle who wore no uniform. Compared to what is allowed militarily in the Geneva conventions, they're lucky to be alive.

Yes, maybe it was a mistake to keep a few, but not the majority.

Talons of Judah| 6.4.10 @ 12:22PM

Paddy, the Arabs...oops, sorry, the Palestinians outnumber the Israelis and seek Israel's destruction. The PLO, HAMAS, HIZBOLLAH and a myriad of other militias couldn't give a rat's ass about their own people as they use them as human shields. Besides, they see themselves as a martyr or "Shaheed". Would you feel better if more Jews died? Would this conflict be more fair & balanced if the data was 10,000 Israeli dead to 10,000 Palestinians dead? Don't you get it yet? They want their people to suffer in order to redirect their hate & rage away from their corrupt regimes. Do you know how many Palestinians were wiped out in the Lebanese army siege of Nahr al-Bared in 2007? They blasted the feces out of the refugee camp killing thousands...yes Lebanese killing Palestinians. Where were you then?

Andy_Krow| 6.3.10 @ 3:06PM

Paddy, you just don't get it, do you?

When Islam gets finished with Israel (Hah! Fat Chance!), they'll come looking for you and me. They're doing it right now because Israel gives back as much, if not more that it takes... Would you want to keep getting your ass kicked all the time like that? Easier to try and pound on "soft" targets like the US of A (until we wake the hell up, if it's not too late!).

Mirza| 6.3.10 @ 3:06PM

The Muslims have learnt a very Hard Lesson. To
"Never Save the Jews, cause they are the Cause of all the evils of the Civilised Society". The Christians can never forget the tribe of Shylock the Jew,which was Saved by followers of Islam.fm Romans/Hitler.

Andy_Krow| 6.3.10 @ 3:09PM

"Yeah, and New York rabbis don't get it wrong either when they trade organs, do they? "

Visual flashbacks to PeeWee Herman:

"I know you are, but what am I??"

isreality| 6.3.10 @ 3:13PM

The prophet IS an evil ape. It is the cause AND the prophet that are to blame. The "radical" islamists are the REAL islamists. They practice what is actually preached. The "good and decent" muslims who aren't blowing people up remind me, in a way, of the lukewarm Christian. It is a false religion and straight from the evil one. That being said, as Christians, muslim peoples everywhere should be love and prayed for that the veil would be lifted.

Mirza| 6.3.10 @ 3:23PM

The former President of Israel, Mr Ezer Weizman says;

"Muslims better to Jews than Christians"

"I think there are closer relations between Jews and Muslims then between Jews and Christians. For Muslims do not eat pork, as well as Jews. Islam did not wage crusades nor persecuted the Jews as the Christians did in Europe."

"Jews and Arabs are all really children of Abraham(Pbuh)," says Harry Ostrer, M.D., Director of the Human Genetics Program at New York University School of Medicine, an author of the new study by an international team of researchersF1 in the United States, Europe, and Israel. "And all have preserved their Middle Eastern genetic roots over 4,000 years," he says.

THEREFORE HOW & WHY THE MUSLIMS HAVE SUDDENLY DECIDED TO KILL EVERY JEW LIVING ON THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH ???
Brian ought to answer!!!

The Jews do not believe in Jesus's(Pbuh) prophethood because he did not save himself from the cross {Deuteronomy 21:22-23}.
The Christians believe Jesus died for our sins, and is a 1/3 of God. Also, abolishment of the Law of Moses (Acts 13:39).

In fact, the years between 900 and 1200 in Spain and North Africa are known as the Hebrew "golden age," a sort of Jewish Renaissance that arose from the fusion of the Arab and Jewish intellectual worlds. Jews watched their Arab counterparts closely and learned to be astronomers, philosophers, scientists, and poets.

In response to Brians allegation that "The world has turned a deaf ear to Israel, and listened to the lies of it's enemy. An enemy who only wants to kill every Jew from the face of the earth" my reply is ;

The former President of Israel, Mr Ezer Weizman says;

"Muslims better to Jews than Christians"

"I think there are closer relations between Jews and Muslims then between Jews and Christians. For Muslims do not eat pork, as well as Jews. Islam did not wage crusades nor persecuted the Jews as the Christians did in Europe."

"Jews and Arabs are all really children of Abraham(Pbuh)," says Harry Ostrer, M.D., Director of the Human Genetics Program at New York University School of Medicine, an author of the new study by an international team of researchersF1 in the United States, Europe, and Israel. "And all have preserved their Middle Eastern genetic roots over 4,000 years," he says.

THEREFORE HOW & WHY THE MUSLIMS HAVE SUDDENLY DECIDED TO KILL EVERY JEW LIVING ON THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH ???
Brian ought to answer!!!

The Jews do not believe in Jesus's(Pbuh) prophethood because he did not save himself from the cross {Deuteronomy 21:22-23}.
The Christians believe Jesus died for our sins, and is a 1/3 of God. Also, abolishment of the Law of Moses (Acts 13:39).

In fact, the years between 900 and 1200 in Spain and North Africa are known as the Hebrew "golden age," a sort of Jewish Renaissance that arose from the fusion of the Arab and Jewish intellectual worlds. Jews watched their Arab counterparts closely and learned to be astronomers, philosophers, scientists, and poets.

IN THE RECENT CONFLICT BETWEEN THE PALESTINIANS AND ISRAEL;
- THEY HAVE USED THE BRUTEST FORM OF WARFARE EVER KNOWN,
WHICH IS NOW ACKNOWLEDGED BY THE UNITED NATIONS AS ISRAELI
WAR CRIMES.
- THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT OLD MEN/WOMEN/CHILDREN/HOSPITALS &
A UN AID DEPOT WERE KILLED/ DESTROYED.
YET THE GREAT U S of A , HAS VETOED ANY RESOLUTION GOING
AGAINST ISRAEL.
- ISRAEL'S LOSS;. 13 CITIZENS.
DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE
LAWS OF WAR IN ISLAMIC JIHAD
Many people asked about Islam & Jihad so I brought some scripts about it to let people know that Islam not only was forgiving but also put the basis of modern laws of war this is not everything there is more & more scripts but this will give the general idea about the whole thing

During his life, Muhammad (Pbuh) gave various injunctions to his forces and adopted practices toward the conduct of war. The most important of these were summarized by Muhammad's(Pbuh) companion, Abu Bakr(Ra), in the form of ten rules for the Muslim army:
"Stop, O people, that I may give you ten rules for your guidance in the battlefield. Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man. Bring no harm to the trees, nor burn them with fire, especially those which are fruitful. Slay not any of the enemy's flock, save for your food. You are likely to pass by people who have devoted their lives to monastic services; leave them alone."

These injunctions were honored by the second Caliph, Umar, during whose reign (634–644) important Muslim conquests took place. These principles were also honoured during the Crusades, as exemplified by sultans such as Saladin and al-Kamil. For example, after al-Kamil defeated the Franks during the Crusades, Oliverus Scholasticus praised the Islamic laws of war
Commenting on how al-Kamil supplied the defeated Frankish army with food: "Who could doubt that such goodness, friendship and charity come from God? Men whose parents, sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, had died in agony at our hands, whose lands we took, whom we drove naked from their homes, revived us with their own food when we were dying of hunger and showered us with kindness even when we were in their power."

Please FORWARD this column of mine , to EDUCATE & ENLIGHTEN the IGNORANTS
& the NOT SO IGNORANTS about what the TRUTH is about the Muslims & Islam and how we have been DEMONIZED by the enemies of not only Islam, but humanity.

The Palestinians, The Kashmiris, The Irish Republican Army, The LTTE Tamils
ARE ALL FREEDOM FIGHTERS, SOME OF THEM WRONGLY BRANDED AS TERRORISTS/EXTREMISTS BY VESTED INTERESTS.

LET US ALL PRAY FOR JUSTICE TO PREVAIL EVERYWHERE/EVERYTIME

Thanks a lot for your time.

Interestec Conservative| 6.3.10 @ 3:39PM

Nice cut and paste.

And what does peanut butter have to do with anything? Sure peanut butter usually helps, but still, so what?

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 3:41PM

BRAVO!
Great sources!
And I shall also remind that the Iranians during the war against Irak never shot a missile to an Iraki town, because they repected a fatwa of Ayatollah Komeiny prohibiting it.

And for the Israeli who claim their historical right on Palestine I invite them to read this interview of Shlomo Zand professor of history at Tel Aviv University.
http://www.care2.com/c2c/group.....st=1333138
as well as the wiki page on Khazars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars

Ryan| 6.3.10 @ 4:15PM

Then why do Muslim terrorists engage civilians, wear no uniform, and seek to defend themselves from civilian buildings surrounded by innocents?

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 4:44PM

- They are not terrorist, they are RESISTANTS defending their illegally occupied country and seeking freedom for their oppressed and dispossessed people.
The Israelis themselves used that kind of method bellow are some references, so I don't see how they could blame others for turning back on them doing the same.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z.....l_violence

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2637.....ore-P-Seto

Here is a list of the bombing of innocent carried out by Zionist organisations:

1. King David Hotel, July 22, 1946.
2. Sharafat, Feb. 7, 1951.
3. Deir Yassin, April 10, 1948.
4. Falameh, April 2, 1951.
5. Naseruddine, April 14, 1948.
6. Quibya, Oct. 14, 1953.
7. Carmel, April 20, 1948.
8. Nahalin, March, 28, 1954.
9. Al-Qabu, May 1, 1948.
10. Gaza, Feb. 28, 1955.
11. Beit Kiras, May 3, 1948.
12. Khan Yunis, May 31, 1955.
13. Beitkhoury, May 5, 1948.
14. Khan Yunis Again, Aug. 31, 1955
15. Az-Zaytoun, May 6, 1948.
16. Tiberia, Dec. 11, 1955.
17. Wadi Araba, May 13, 1950.
18. As-Sabha, Nov. 2, 1955.
19. Gaza Again, April 5, 1956.
20. Houssan, Sept. 25, 1956.
21. Rafa, Aug. 16, 1956.
22. Qalqilyah, Oct. 10, 1956.
23. Ar-Rahwa, Sept. 12, 1956.
24. Kahr Kassem, Oct. 29, 1956.
25. Gharandal, Sept. 13, 1956.
26. Gaza Strip, Nov. 1956.
26. Gaza Strip, Nov. 1956.

Ryan| 6.3.10 @ 4:50PM

What justifies Muslims engaging and hiding behind civilians?

Talons of Judah| 6.4.10 @ 12:45PM

Paddy, where's the list of Arab/Islamic/Turkish/Persian/Palestinan atrocities carried out against Israelis, Jews, Armenians, Kurds and other Muslims. You don't even have an internet page long enough for all of them so while Israelis did do bad things in the past THEY ADMIT THEIR SINS and apologize and BTW look at the date of your last entry...1956! How many innocents have been killed by the PLO and the other factions since 1956??? Ask Saeb Erekat, Hanan Ashwrari and a host of other Arafat croonies who escaped by the skin of thier teeth from HAMAS. Those folks are happy to be living in Ramallah and nowhere near Gaza where they would be executed by their...brothers.

Dasboot| 6.3.10 @ 3:27PM

As a true American and a Catholic, I stand with the people of Israel. Do not be dismayed by our president that was voted in by your American counterparts. He is an antisemite like his mentor Wright. It goes with the whole left wing elite thing.

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 3:49PM

Obama antisemitic?
Well that would be surprising considering that Rahm Israel Emanuel, the White House Chief of Staff, is the son of a former Irgun officer and that during the first Gulf War, Emanuel served with the Israel Defense Forces.
Catholicism?
Is it this religion who has problems with its pedophile priests?

John II| 6.3.10 @ 4:14PM

Is not religion Katholic that have trouble with pedophile priests. Katholic have trouble with morons, you betcha, but Kathlic don't send suicide bomber to fix wagon of morons. So you safe, Paddy.

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 4:36PM

I don't know what you are on man!
But I want two!

Tim*| 6.3.10 @ 4:52PM

There Ya Go , Paddy

That's your Problem in a Nutshell !

You ain't got a pair .

Nick| 6.3.10 @ 4:43PM

Yes, it must have been tough for Rahm to carry around his tutu and ballet slippers during a war!

Rahm did scissor kicks to knock down SCUD rockets.

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 4:45PM

Hilarious!

Nick| 6.3.10 @ 5:20PM

Paddy?
As in "drunken mick" paddy?
That explains a lot.

Go post your drunken anti-Semitic tirades somewhere else, bigot.

When you sober up, maybe you'll remember how to spell.

Tim*| 6.3.10 @ 4:48PM

Nah Paddy,
Ozero, Emanuel &Axelrod; are Deconstructionists , like you Agenda Boy.

Aaaand apparently , you didn't get the memo .
The Catholic Church is the religion ,now in the process of purging & eliminating pedophile homosexual priests.
Ya gotta problem with that , Boy ? Hmmmm ?

JimE| 6.3.10 @ 6:12PM

Sorry Paddy,
Rahm never served with the IDF, some research moron. He was a civilian flunky.

Tim*| 6.3.10 @ 3:39PM

THE OTHER WHITE MEAT ARGUMENT !

" The former President of Israel, Mr Ezer Weizman says;
"I think there are closer relations between Jews and Muslims then between Jews and Christians. For Muslims do not eat pork.... "

Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha !

The Pork's On The Barbie !

Northern Rebel| 6.3.10 @ 4:20PM

I've said this before, but it bears repeating:

There is no historical incident, where a Jew strapped on a belt laden with bombs, and blew up a bus full of arab muslim children.

The only way to stop the irrational hatred eminating from the religion of death, is to exterminate as many arab muslims as it takes to make them incapable of being a threat.

Let the killing begin.

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 4:47PM

Heil Israel!

martin j smith| 6.3.10 @ 4:22PM

In todays WSJ on the front page there was a? analysis or oppinion--it was NOT NEWS--that included a few cliches thaty I just love. First the "botched raid". What would have been a non botched raid: a) let the flotilla go thru ? b) kill no one and allow ten Israelis get killed ? or c) Board the ship do hypnosis on the crew and all sing Hava Na Gila together ? e) Something completely different .

The second idea is Israelis losing friends. Friends: What friends. The EU ? Really !!! the US under Obama,what friend --with such friends who needs enemies. Russia, in no way, Turkey--they are going down the Islamist road more and more every dy, And they are in NATO ?
Israel and Jews in general are into survival. We have lots of practice.

Tim*| 6.3.10 @ 4:33PM

Paddy says ,
" No country in the world has ever killed as many people as the United States of America. "

Apparently you wanna quibble , Sport .
You forgot The An Shi Rebellion , The Mongol Conquests , The Muslim Rebellion in China for starters.

Daniel| 6.3.10 @ 4:49PM

The amount of resolutions condemning is very long indeed. So is the list of Israel's enemies. None of them democratic. Yet they use the power of their numbers to get Israel convicted in the UN courts. People are blind to this because they believe the UN is somehow impartial, whereas it's only contribution to the Arab-Israeli conflict is to enable it to go on.

Yes I believe Israel is a mistake. It Is a mistake because we underestimated the power of anti-semitism and we never could conceive the Europe would embrace the Arab world to such an extend. Perhaps in order to rid itself of the guilt of the Holocaust, as they see Muslims as persecuted Jews. Hating Israel is a catharsic experience, it means freedom. Witness the embrace of the left and militant Islam.

They won't give us the light of day. They'll keep pushing, and they will be more. And everyday they are more still. The left which does not tolerate critical words about Islam is slowly turning on the heat. They find permission in the conflict to hate Israel, they confirm Islamic hate, they back it up and it reflects back. Bringing it here, and to your shores as well.

And the fighting is ugly, you have to admit. A Palestinian docter who lives in Gaza but has good connections in Israel looses his daughter in the battle in Gaza. What can one say to such a tragedy.

Realising this one realises the decision of the pro Palestinian Jews. It is hard to resist the growing majority. Muslims will do everything they can to destroy Israel, Israel will do everything it can to survive. The longer it does the guiltier it becomes because this fight is bloody. If it's not defeated it will be executed for warcrimes.

It's nice to know there is this powerful force that exists to protect you. That will sacrifice for you, even if you only contributed a few years to its existance. It's strong but not invincible.

Heroes will die, and when they're dead that's it.

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 5:43PM

" Hating Israel is a catharsic experience": So, according to you, anti-Israel would hate Israel because they feel guilty for having hated the Jews? Some are Anti-Zionist because they feel guilty for having been anti-Semitic? I am sorry but this is total gibberish.
Acknowledging that Israel behaves with the Palestinians like the German behaved with the Polish during WWII (Ghetto of Varsaw=Gaza Strip) is simply logical. Same methods, same goals, same disrespect for international laws and human rights the fact is blatant: Israel behaves in Gaza like the Nazi in Poland.
I don't like Nazi's, my uncle died during WWII, my grand father was a POW in Germany, my mum was a refugee in France. So stop posing as a victim while you are in fact the executioner.
"Muslims will do everything they can to destroy Israel"
False. Israel was on its way for full international recognition, but refused to withdraw its troops and occupies illegally territories for 43 years, violating international laws.
So Mulims countries have the right to attempt to recover the land that has been stolen from them.

"Israel will do everything it can to survive"
Nobody has any doubt about that. It is the reason why Israel has an undeclared nuclear arsenal and refuses any inspection. It is therefore a threat to the whole middle east and Iran in particular.

Talons fo Judah| 6.5.10 @ 2:13AM

Well, well, well Paddy, you finally stated the whole crux of the anti-semetic, anti-Israel campaign that's been waged continuously since 1948 and expecially after the 1982 Sabra and Shatilla massacre in Lebanon, carried out by the Gemayel Christian militia.
I am proud of you Paddy that you stated this:
"Acknowledging that Israel behaves with the Palestinians like the German behaved with the Polish during WWII (Ghetto of Varsaw=Gaza Strip) is simply logical. Same methods, same goals, same disrespect for international laws and human rights the fact is blatant: Israel behaves in Gaza like the Nazi in Poland".

Paddy, the Israel is a Nazi, Palestinian is the Jew victim analogy is greatest distortion and blasphemy ever circulated.

My father fought in WWII, bombed Germany, my Uncle killed in France by a German sniper so we all fought Facism. Now, you're lending a hand to the new Islamofacism.

The systematic, industrial murder of Jewish (and other peoples) men, women and children can in no way be compared to the interaction between Israel and her neighbors. What gall! If you are a student of history please do not cloud the reality of events with your bigotry. Ask anybody from that generation, any vet, READ! Israel has made Peace with those countries who seek peace, made war on those countries and peoples who made war on her. Israeli Jews are trying to strike a balance between a constant war footing and being the only Democratic, Western, Liberal, free-,market society in the Middle East.

I have to give you credit for openly saying what so many Israel haters imply with all their propaganda - the Palestinian being the new Jewish victim...it helps obtain evil political ends, but ultimately, it is wrong and a blatant lie so Paddy, side with the terrorists and Islamofacists...it's ok, at least I can respect your honesty and openess.

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 4:56PM

Yeah right..
We can go back to the struggle of CroMagnon against Neanderthal if you want....

As for "The An Shi Rebellion , The Mongol Conquests , The Muslim Rebellion in China" I'd be interested by figures, but for sure they were not massacring while pretending to be THE democracy enlightening the rest of the world.

Ahhh! The Anglo Saxon hypocrisy...

Nick| 6.3.10 @ 5:23PM

Paddy?
As in "drunken mick" paddy?
That explains a lot.

Go post your drunken anti-Semitic tirades somewhere else, bigot.

When you sober up, maybe you'll remember how to spell.

Tim*| 6.3.10 @ 5:41PM

Paddy sounds like a " Kick The Pope " Orangeman from The North .

Besides , Jews gotta get in line with Anglo Saxons , Catholics , The United States , Paddy's mother-in-law , Neighbor Patel and Da Man .

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 5:45PM

It would be impossible for me to be anti-semitic.

Nick| 6.3.10 @ 6:25PM

Why?
Are you a self-hating Jew?

Tim*| 6.3.10 @ 6:41PM

Uh Oh !

A halfbreed Arab Semite Orangeman !

He's gonna Suicide Bomb The Vatican .

Tim*| 6.3.10 @ 5:12PM

Do your own homework , before ya run your uneducated mouth , pseudo-intellect propaganda boy.

Uh Oh !
Paddy got problems with Anglo Saxons now.

Let's see here , Jews , Catholics ,The United States , Anglo Saxons , your mother -in-law , your neighbor Patel , Da Man......

Try Therapy.

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 5:54PM

Tim,
you do not have arguments or references so you resort to insults.
You are at the height of my expectations.

Tim*| 6.3.10 @ 6:29PM

I got references & apparently ,you don't.

Do your own homework ,before ya run your uninformed yap.
Hint for the Propaganda Boy :
foist woid .... "List ..."

C'mon stupid , you can find it .

Ken (Old Texican)| 6.3.10 @ 5:18PM

WOW,
What an interesting conversation today.
The Jew haters and Christian haters are out in force even here.

Good to hear from you idiots and "useful idiots".

You remind us once again that you are hopeless.

I suppose then that it is "war to the knife" with you guys. Guess what?

Jihad is only another word for "holy war". Bless your hearts.....when we decide to wage holy war... in return.....we will stomp your asses.

Folks,
I am truly glad these tools of satan show up here. They remind us to stay "locked and cocked".

It truly looks to me that Obama and crew want the holy-war to begin.
They forget TWO things:
1. Our military defends our constitution, not Obama.
There is no question in my mind that our military will side with "we the people". They will have to do so in a little bit of a convoluted fashion... ie: "your orders were garbled, sir".

2. No one in history has even thought of defeating 70 million snipers/guerillas/patriots.

We, in the final analysis will only be provoked so far, before we simply END these communists, (pardon the shorthand), and their muslim/fascist barbarian brothers.

Do I really get to get to take part in the battle of Armegeddon? (I am honored, Father.)

So let it begin if it is God's will.

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 6:09PM

" Our military defends our constitution, not Obama."
Well they did no defend the 2nd amendments when the military was confiscating weapons after Katrina.
"...END these communists..."
You have not ended anything there, you just got your ass kicked inVietnam. China is still there, so is North Corea and Russia is gaining momentum.
And I think you wont do anything about it. I think though that your economy is going to be ruined by yourselves and that your fancy dreams of empire are just vanishing as you read this.
You plan to resort to war (Iran) in order to refuel your economy, but you just cannot afford it anymore.
Bye, bye, America.

Tim*| 6.3.10 @ 6:50PM

Lot's of America Haters have bloviated the same Shuck & Jive Trash Talk .

Come & Get Us Paddy .

bernardo| 6.3.10 @ 5:22PM

I have no comment on the religious back and forth above beyond noting Heinlein’s remark that one man’s theology is another man’s belly laugh. I’d rather look at the substantive issue facing Israel and the United States which is that we have a president who cannot be counted upon either to support Israel or to defend the interests of the US in the Middle East. Whether Obama is an anti-Semite (such as his doppelganger Jimmy Carter has been revealed to be) or merely weak and wrong on policy is a matter for conjecture. What is not is that this has created a situation ripe for war – with Israel perhaps believing it must act alone and its enemies perhaps believing that they can act with impunity as far as the United States is concerned. Our policy toward Iran in particular needs to toughen up and toughen up fast.
As to the UN’s treatment of Israel, it is outrageous, typical but outrageous. It is way past time for the US (and any other civilized nation so inclined) to quit that corrupt organization and try something else.

John II| 6.3.10 @ 6:03PM

I'd prefer to get out of the UN and send the clowns packing to Geneva or perhaps Nairobi or Ulan Bator--but without trying anything else for the next century or two.

Tim*| 6.3.10 @ 5:25PM

Uh Oh !
It's Apocalyptic Kenny ,with his six shooter .

Ken (Old Texican)| 6.3.10 @ 5:47PM

Tim*,

I can't hit crap with a six shooter in combat. (smile) Conversley, with a "shoulder arm" I am quite proficient out to 500 yards, even when I am scared to death.

Something cute to remember: A preacher I once heard said "A lot of people do not understand that there is an "apocaylypse" in every single life."
Tim*,
Most every Christian I have ever buried told me about their own personal apocalypse. As I held their hand when they died, I prayed.... out loud... "Father, into Your grace, I commend (Name)... this person."

(sigh) On D-Day 1944, 9,000 allied soldiers died.
That was their "apocalypse."

Any more questions?

Tim*| 6.3.10 @ 5:56PM

My Dad led American troopers at The Battle of Normandy. They conquered the krauts and the hedgerows. Graves registration buried their KIA's .
You ain't tellin' me nothin' Old Man.

Tom in Michigan| 6.3.10 @ 8:42PM

As a German-American I take great exception to your ethic slur; "krauts."

Just kidding. We refuse to be victims and don't give a rat's Rektum what you call us but, should we bury the "K-word?"

Also, should we "Push drei für deutsche?" How ridiculous is the left's co-opting of ethnicity!

Tom in Michigan| 6.3.10 @ 8:46PM

Oh, yeah. By the way; my grandfather fought the Krauts in WWI and my Dad and Uncle fought them in WWII. My Grandfather and Dad were infantry (Rainbow Division and 4th ID respectively while my Uncle was a fighter pilot; P-38s and P-51s).

Richard D. Henkus| 6.3.10 @ 6:05PM

First, some facts.
The Biblical Anti-fugitive Slave law
" If a slave has taken refuge with you, do not hand him over to his master. Let him live among you wherever he likes and in whatever town he chooses. Do not oppress him." Deut 23:15,16 .
Second, if a master beat a slave who then died within three days of receiving injury, it was murder.
A slave that converted to Judaism would then become free under the seven years rule that applied to all Israelites. Christians, being 'spiritual Israel' nonetheless did not free their slaves as they became Christians.

By these standards alone, American slavery as it was violated the Biblical rules for servitude.

Any thoughts on this?

Paddy| 6.3.10 @ 6:10PM

"Second, if a master beat a slave who then died within three days of receiving injury, it was murder."

And if it did not die? was it TORTURE?

Nick| 6.3.10 @ 6:27PM

No, brainiac, the slave was freed.

Seriously, put down the wiskey and get some coffee.

Tim*| 6.3.10 @ 6:37PM

Spoken like The Orangeman , Paddy O' Furniture !

Ken (Old Texican)| 6.3.10 @ 6:43PM

Tim*
If your dad stormed Normandy...you are an old fart too.
lock and cock.

Tim*| 6.3.10 @ 6:56PM

Apparently ,not as old as you.

Lock & Load Your Pants.

Attention Associates , Clean Up On Aisle Three !

Ken (Old Texican)| 6.3.10 @ 7:07PM

Then if your dad stormed Normandy...you are simply a liar and cannot count years. You simply like to tug tails here.
Henceforth I will ignore you, except to make fun of your math deficiency.

Tim*| 6.3.10 @ 7:14PM

You tug more than tails Old Man.

Shove Off !

Ken (Old Texican)| 6.3.10 @ 7:01PM

Pady,
All kidding aside, what are you doing here?

Do you get paid for your copy/pastes, or are you just another "useful idiot"?

Obviously, you don't like we Americans.....
Get over it...heh...we win....even when our elected officials are stupid.

somnolence| 6.3.10 @ 7:02PM

The modern state of Israel has already won three wars. They aren't about to lose one and will employ any means left to the imagination to prevail. I repeat, Iran and the whole rest of the Arab world cannot beat them in armed conflict.

Marc Jeric| 6.3.10 @ 7:04PM

Our situation is much worse than anybody suspects. Abu Hussein al-Nairobi (or whatever miserable Kenyan village he was born in), our illustrious and superintelligent Community Organizer-in-Chief, is bent on several main tasks:
1) As a communist revolutionary he wants to nationalize private enterprise - automobile companies, insurance and mortgage companies, oil & gas companies, coal mines, banks, hospitals...
2) As a secret Muslim he wants to eliminate Israel, and also to eliminate by his judges all mention of Christianity from public discussions and in schools;
3) With 47% of population that is already on the dole and that pays no income taxes, he already has almost the permanent majority of votes; with the coming amnesty of 15 million illegal aliens his majority will go well over 55% - and that means permanent power;
4) His aim is also to unionize everybody, with the marxist gangsters in charge; and finally
5) He intends to silence Fox and conservative radio by the new laws; also, he will put a stop to Internet comments from his "enemies".

Ken (Old Texican)| 6.3.10 @ 7:14PM

Marc,
Yes....that is what he WANTS to do.
But,
Just like he can't plug the oil well blow-out...himself ...he cannot do any of the other stuff ...himself.
We are smarter and tougher than his "helpers".

We are quietly working toward November. If we are not successful then...all bets are off.
Stand strong!

Bigfoot| 6.3.10 @ 7:46PM

Bernardo, you are right. The UN no longer serves the interest of a peaceful world order - OR a just one. As for the Jews and the Ishmaelite Arabs, the latter own by birthright the Arabian Peninsula, and by conquest the entirity of North Africa and Mesopotamia, and by religeous conversion, usually at swordpoint, vast other regions of the world. They own not only deserts but great rivers and productive valleys, bustling port cities, and above all one third of the oil wealth of the entire world. The Jews have only a fraction of their small homeland. It was given to them by God, and later vouchsafed by Great Britain and the Allies. They have created within that tiny enclave a powerful and democratic nation. The Arabs have created the fiction that their prophet ascended to heaven from the Temple Mount of Jerusalem, thereby seeking to legitimate the exclusion of Jews and Christians from a foothold in the Ummah. The Crusades were a justified campaign to retake the Christian holy sites that had been overrun and desecrated by the Arabs. The brutality of the Crusaders, while regrettable, was nothing more than common practice among all armies of that day, Saracens not excepted. And the blood they shed was a drop in the bucket compared to the blood shed by the ensueing Mongol and Turkish invaders.
Now the Jews are beset on all sides by their enemies. A Muslim President in America, and the European nations who once vouchsafed the Jewish homeland, are making common cause with Muslim fanatics and the secular spawn of Nazism in the Arab world. War is approaching. If it falls upon us, Isreal, for its part, will prevail. But the Pax Americana that we all have taken for granted will be no more.

WendyG| 6.3.10 @ 8:05PM

“Nobody does Israel any service by proclaiming its 'right to exist.'

Israel's right to exist, like that of the United States, Saudi Arabia and 152 other states, is axiomatic and unreserved. Israel's legitimacy is not suspended in midair awaiting acknowledgement.

There is certainly no other state, big or small, young or old, that would consider mere recognition of its 'right to exist' a favor, or a negotiable concession.” (Abba Eban - New York Times, November 18, 1981).

Bob K.| 6.3.10 @ 8:13PM

Jews will always survive. They have survived all of history's tyrannies. They will survive those to come. They will survive the political foolishness of their own people in the USA. They will survive the fall of Israel, should it come to pass. GOD has seen to it and HE will continue to see to it. What we don't know is whether it is out of HIS love, or HIS punishment, or HIS constant reminder to them of what could have been? Or all three! But they will survive!

JR| 6.3.10 @ 10:39PM

Israel should have borrowed some torpedoes from North Korea.

Suzy| 6.3.10 @ 10:39PM

Unsubscribe.
Farewell American spectator, I finally realized how biased you are. Thank the author of this jibberish for opening my eyes !

Tommy Wilkinson| 6.3.10 @ 10:43PM

" Israel right and long" ?

It doesn`t take a rocket scientist to realize that Israel went too far this time . Apparently that notion is off limit to the AS. Shameful war mongering - not journalism!

Ms. Jones| 6.4.10 @ 12:04PM

All it takes is a fool to believe mainstream media's shameful, biased reporting of these tragic events. Watch the video--the FULL video, not the sanitized Hamas version--and see for yourself that Israel was only defending herself. What kind of peace workers continue to beat a man with iron pipes--and about 12 against 1, into the bargain--after he is down on the deck? This was a set up by Muslim-loving, anti-semitic forces, pure and simple. What kind of journalists accept at face value a video delivered by the self-described victim/martyrs of the piece and refuse to air the full video showing the shameful, violent acts leading up to it? American liberal ones, appparently. Israel has a right and a duty to protect its citizens.

My Girl Friday| 6.3.10 @ 11:20PM

I am sickened by the anti-jew vile comments posted here. For those who wish to learn and understand Israel's plight "Maps Don't Lie" please visit: www,masada2000.org/geography.html. And, thank you Mr. Hillyer for your insightful article, I was moved, to tears.

Anthony In Shanghai| 6.4.10 @ 12:27AM

I did not have the honor of being born an Israeli, or even a Jew. But in my 60 years on this planet I have come to accept absolutely the same point of view expressed by Mr. Hillyer. I will continue to do all I can as an American citizen and voter to provide unqualified support to Israel. I will keep supporting this vital cause until the enemy realises that if they want peace, there will be peace. But I am very worried that more difficult times for Israel are at hand. So this is the time for its supporters to speak up, to avoid complacency, to resist bad reporting adn to speak up. Long live Israel, your friends will not desert you.

Talons of Judah| 6.5.10 @ 4:59AM

What is amazing is that the Liberal European West (like the Irish now) condemn Israel as a knee-jerk, you wont attack me, right? attitude towards the Islamofacists. Israel is at the forefront of Western values and everytime they get attacked by the Liberal West, it is as if Islam succeeds in driving a wedge between the same (Judeo-Christian) peoples. Instead of uniting, the Islamofacists divide...and then, conquer...

Ian Grantham| 6.4.10 @ 1:45AM

Neither side is going to relent, until one side relents. I can understand both sides, but neither of those sides can understand the other! You are both obstinate, both a terrorist to the other and both kill defenceless people, innocent people as part of what you call your righteous cause. All your arguments for doing this are meaningless in the passing of time. All you are both doing to each other is perpetuating a horror for each other, I think the criminal activities of both sides and the ability to ignore and try to justify these criminal events indicates you must all be brain dead!

Nick| 6.4.10 @ 2:09PM

What a ridiculous diatribe.

Do you know how many French civilians we killed, by bombing, leading up to D-Day? Were we also terrorists?

The people responsible for all civilian deaths, on both sides, are the terrorists who belong to Hamas, Hezbollah, and the former PLO.

Talons of Judah| 6.5.10 @ 5:42AM

Ian, of course it is very easy for you to sit on the sidelines and look "objectively" at both sides' behavior as being equally bad.

Let's assume you reside in England for a moment. What would you do, how would you feel if England was being blitzed with thousands of Kassam or larger, more lethal weapons on a regualr basis? Would you tolerate it? Did Britain tolerate it in 1940? Are the scales of moral justice equal here?

Let's try another analogy (assuming, again you are from the UK). Suppose the IRA and Shin Fein claimed that London was their capital and that the only way to wrest it back from England was through the "armed struggle". Suppose they sent armadas of "ACTIVISTS" to your shores attempting to provide aid to the "impoverished" Irish? What would that scenario look like. In order to defend their national interests, the UK sent warships all the way to the Argentine in 1982 to defend British interests...all the way to the Argentine! Israel is defending its coasts, cities and maritime waters after years of constant bombardment! NO ISRAELI SITS IN GAZA so from whom are we supposed to Free Gaza exactly?
Ian, I envy your armchair viewing position...

Victor E. Dogood| 6.4.10 @ 2:06AM

Two reasons American's should support Israel:

The Israelites of the old testament, and their modern descendants are a people guided by the essential goodness and wisdom of the Ten Commandments, a moral code offered to them without any justifications or stated penalties for disobedience. The ideas there came from the wisdom in the heart of all humans, it is a list of items that we all hold as truths in our hearts, it is the recognition and differentiation between basic good and evil in the world; that inner knowledge is the glow of God in all of us, the Jews were perhaps the first to hear the voice of it or at least write it down. For this reason, the Jews exist as a force for good in the world; all peoples and nations have made mistakes in the past, but the Jews have been and continue on a productive, humanitarian existence in modern times.

Also, Israel is America's greatest ally; Israel is a democracy and holds many of the same values as America, including tolerance and God given liberty. Israel is our only true ideological ally in a very dangerous section of the world. If America genuinely supports the idea of natural rights, then America must support Israel in the face of nations who would rule the world theocratically through governance by tyrants who would claim authority as theirs given directly from God and not from people. We can only grant the rights articulated in the Declaration of Independence to those people within our jurisdiction, but we have a duty to support those rights for all, that is why we are called, as American's, to support and preserve Israel. Are there flaws and national errors in American history? Certainly. But America remains the last great hope of the world in it's basic support of freedom, truth, and love. America, like Israel, is a force for good in the world, we must recognize our friends in the never ending struggle against tyranny. No great thing may be accomplished in our lifetimes, Moses lesson, however we have hope and strength as long as we are on the path of goodness and truth we will stand up wise upon the mountain and glimpse the promised land together.

Edward Gibbon| 6.4.10 @ 2:54AM

The trials and tribulations of God's chosen people continue- they began with the covenant with Abraham, and ever since have beset the Hebrews and their descendants with the full might of all the evil forces in the world, claiming populations with the venom of anti-Semitism from different cultures and with different histories and spawning new Assyrians, Chaldeans, Selucids and Romans throughout history. And when the West finally, inevitably abandons Israel, we will find out for ourselves what "I will bless those you bless you, and curse those who curse you" really means. God help us.

Vesa| 6.4.10 @ 4:29AM

This article just caused me to cancel my American Spectator subscription.

Perhaps it's that, as a Finn and a friend of both Jews and Arabs, I can have a somewhat balanced "outside" view. Be that as it may, absolutely nothing can legitimate wanton killing of aid workers in international waters. That constitutes an act of piracy, and those attacked do have a right to defend themselves. Also, in last year's "war" a.k.a. Operation Cast Lead, the Israeli military machine indiscriminately killed about 1,400 Palestinians - including some 500 children - while 13 Israelis were killed, several of them in "friendly fire". Massive killing of civilians can never be the solution, but is always bound to make peace increasingly difficult to achieve.

(And yes, as reported by Times and other sources, both Israeli soldiers and Hamas fighters have been caught using human shields.)

A Finnish aid worker described on TV that not even construction materials can be brought into the largely destroyed Gaza, while there is very little farmable land and fishing can only be done in a very narrow coastal strip. People suffer from malnutrition, diseases and obvious psychological problems. In Gaza, the world is witnessing something only too familiar from history.

On the other hand, we know that tension and war have a great number of profiteers.

Ms. Jones| 6.4.10 @ 11:47AM

If you accept the premise that these were indeed "aid workers" and not activist/martyrs, you are naive. Since when do aid workers refuse a legitimate request to have their ships searched, write wills en masse days prior to the "operation", declare that they will break the blockade or become martyrs to the cause, then beat unarmed (unless you call paintball guns being "armed") men with metal pipes--even after he's down on the ground, or throw someone overboard causing grave injury? Imagine the "psychological problems" of Israelis who must conduct their daily business with hundreds of rockets being fired into their cities every year! If these were indeed simply aid workers, why did Egypt refuse them portage? And what do you know, our own American Terrorist William Ayres & Co. (radical and unrepentant Weatherman bomber of the Pentagon) is partially behind this so-called humanitarian effort. The Israelis have been set up by anti-Semites bent on their destruction. Unfortunately, your media is probably only showing you the Hamas version of video which conveniently omits the sight of these "peaceniks" brutally beating one man after he's down on the deck, and throwing another man overboard. Indeed, "those attacked have a right to defend themselves", which is exactly what the Israelis did--defend themselves.

Wandering Gentile| 6.4.10 @ 6:58AM

Mr. Hillyer, I do admire your steadfast faith in the survivability of the Jews. And you're probably right - there is indeed that Biblical promise that Jews will be around until the end of time.

But you may be threading on dangerous grounds by putting a theological spin on military events. Are any and all military actions by Israel justified by the fact that Jews have been attacked again and again for millenia? And should world leaders support Israel simply because its survivability is a "historical phenomenon"?

You also seem to be suffering from selective perception when you invoke history. Perhaps your piece would have been fairer had it mentioned the events spanning World War I to 1948 when Jews that had lived in Europe for centuries gradually and then forcibly cleansed Palestine of Arabs that had lived there for centuries. Tough luck for the Arabs - they weren't the Chosen People. And Europe (and eventually Americans) had to salve their collective conscience for all the brutality done to the poor Jews. No guilty thoughts for all those Arabs who anyway were illiterate nomads who do not really "own" the land.

Benny Zee | 6.4.10 @ 3:07PM

Wandering Gentile...Mr Hillyer (IMO) was only pointing out that Israel (Jews) have been targeted for centuries and it is true right up until today. I may remind you that since 1948 ..the UN mandate to create Two States (one Jewish and one Arab) and the Arabs choose war. Thats not Biblical or Theological! Hamas and Hezbullah fired thousand of rockets and missiles into Israel proper. Israel's tough responce is not "Theological!" What if Mexico shot rockets into Texas? I would also remind you (if are you are an American) that we in the USA are fighting the same enemy that Israel is in Iraq, Pakistan, and Afghanistan! And as for the tough luck arabs..more than million Arabs live as citizens in Israel..I don't see them running away to Cairo, Damascus, or that paradise in Gaza. As for "chosen " people..wandering..you be chosen" , I pass it along to you..but beware of all those religions that want to take it away from you. I was "chosen" by my wonderful Jewish mother to be Jewish..and I love it! Be well.

Louis Jenkins| 6.4.10 @ 10:06AM

"anyone who truly believes in what is written in the Koran either fights jihad in the name of Allah, or supports those who do."

Ken (Old Texican)| 6.4.10 @ 11:09AM

Wandering,

How can someone be so absolutely illiterate of history, unless you are willfully ignorant?

Hank O | 6.4.10 @ 2:49PM

Mr Hillyer..excellant column. I don't know if you are Jewish, but you sure know Jewish history! The only way to describe the plight of us Jews is to understand our fantastic history, both religiously and realistically as a people who have witnessed it all since Abraham. Yes, we have survived 4000 yrs of Pogroms and must have many tricks in our "survival kits". Also, luck and the help of the "GOY Zaddick" (Righteous Gentile) has helped!! By the way I looked up "Ozymandias"..interesting..thank you. Sadly, Pharoah and Hitler's ghost still roams the globe. Great column. I hope what you say makes our USA Govt realize how important Israel is as our best Ally in that arena of the ME!

Quin| 6.4.10 @ 5:31PM

No, Hank, I am not Jewish; I am a cradle Episcopalian with strong traditionalist Catholic tendencies. But that doesn't keep me from recognizing merit and character in people of other faiths, and my admiration for people of your faith, collectively, is obviously almost unbounded. Thank you again for your nice comments. :)

Crusader| 6.4.10 @ 7:14PM

Do not make the mistake of thinking Muslims will ever rest until Israel and all Jews are destroyed! Islam is a death cult, not a religion; Muslims worship a murderer named Mohammed, not God. As long as this cult exists it will be a threat to Western civilization itself. The West, indeed, the entire civilized world, must act now, before these insane cultists obtain nuclear weapons.
To protect civilization Israel must protect itself by destroying Iran's nuclear weapons program by any means possible, and without heed to any collateral damage Iran may suffer. The second thing that must be done is to isolate Muslims in their traditional home countries. If the world will isolate Muslims then terrorists attacks against the civilized people of the world will cease because Muslims will not have access to the countries they wish to harm.
Critics of what I just said will say that the Muslim world will cut off our oil if we act on my advice. Not true! There is no group of people on this earth more greedy than the Muslims. They will be more than happy to continue selling oil to the civilized world so they can continue to enjoy the fruits of civilization. Ironic, is it not? These barbarians want to enjoy the fruits of the very civilizations they wish to destroy.
Long live Israel! Long live Western civilization, the greatest civilization in the history of the human race!

Crusader

James Wright| 6.5.10 @ 5:12AM

Most of the people of the world now are pretty aware of the cruelty of the israelis ,so there will be different thought of the deep reality of the israelis,but unfortunately the governments of the whole world countries will not do more than temporary freezing of relations because sadly the US & many european countries will vito & support israel in the UN.
http://www.articlesbase.com/he.....46370.html

RCV| 6.5.10 @ 4:03PM

“The overwhelming majority of the American people would defend Israel, not attack it. Yes, we pray for a just,lasting solution in the region. But we could have had one many times over the past 100 years were it not for the intransigence of Israel's Arab neighbors. When the Ottoman empire was dismantled after WWI, and the colonial powers created a slew of new Arab states, including Arab "Jordan" out of most of mandate Palestine, it was hardly unreasonable to establish one small Jewish state as well in part of Palestine, the historic home of the Jewish people. When the UN further compromised -- splitting the remaining 1/3 of Palestine into yet another Arab state and a Jewish one, the Arab states refused and attacked Israel. Jordan seized the West Bank and Egypt seized Gaza. They could have created a new Arab Palestinian state in 1947, but refused. Instead, Jordan declared, and rightly so, that it WAS Arab Palestine, and annexed the West Bank. The Palestinian National Assembly ratified the decision. Only AFTER Israel captured the West Bank in the 1967 war did the Arab nations suddenly discover a new nationality - Palestinian. Before then, they were just Arabs.

The Arab states (none of which really wants an independent new Palestine) have resisted every reasonable effort at compromise since. They have, as Winston Churchill famously said, "never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity." It is they who have ill-served the Arabs living in the West Bank and Gaza.”

Bios| 6.6.10 @ 12:10AM

Such talk! I am interested in the opinions of Grand Ayatollah Ali Al Sistani. He speaks about "people of the book" - Jews, Christians and Muslims. I have had a thought. Christians, take back this country. We are a bit crazy but non believers are so much worse. Then let us look for honest people of integrity among the other "people of the book". Look to see where God is working and join in. You might be surprised what will happen.

Don Cope| 6.7.10 @ 5:43PM

Cant we all just get along?

wwwexler | 6.10.10 @ 11:09AM

"The historical phenomenon of the Jews cannot be accounted for by historical or sociological theory. Accordingly, they may be said to be in some fashion or other a sign. Wouldn't you agree?"

Their current arrangement for survival is the neocon quest for American hegemony. In this quest, America needs to dominate the Middle East, home of oil resources that they believe are America's by some sort of divine right.

Without billions of dollars of American military and economic aid, plus the enormous influence of AIPAC over American politics, plus the automatic support by the American government for anything that Israel does, regardless of how heinous it may be, they would not last long. Maybe half an hour or so.

Oh, I forgot one. Anybody who criticizes Israel for any reason is automatically labeled as an anti-semite and anti-American.

Watch and see.

-Wexler

PS My real posts link to www.glennbeckreport.com

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