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Enemies of Arizona
Will Obama ever defend America and her borders?
When he was running for president, Barack Obama presented himself as a man who could restore America’s reputation in the world. Since becoming president, though, Obama has given the impression that he is working overtime to tarnish it.
Let’s grant for the sake of argument that Obama was right and President Bush’s cowboy swagger made non-Americans dislike our country. Even if that were 100 percent true, it doesn’t follow that the best way to correct that is to have a president badmouth his own country at every possible opportunity.
Speaking in Strasbourg in April of last year, Obama said to the people of Europe, “Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive.”
The Telegraph of London wrote, “His speech in Strasbourg went further than any United States president in history in criticising his own country’s action while standing on foreign soil.”
Also in April of last year, Obama spoke before the Turkish parliament, saying, “The United States is still working through some of our own darker periods in our history. Facing the Washington Monument that I spoke of is a memorial of Abraham Lincoln, the man who freed those who were enslaved even after Washington led our Revolution. Our country still struggles with the legacies of slavery and segregation, the past treatment of Native Americans.”
Now he is returning to that theme, strongly hinting to China and Mexico that overt racism is raising its head in America again.
At a recent “human rights dialogue” between State Department officials and Chinese officials, Assistant Secretary of State Michael Posner bashed Arizona’s new immigration law as a civil rights violation. He didn’t even wait for the Chinese to bring it up. “We brought it up early and often,” Posner said, “as a troubling trend in our society and an indication that we have to deal with issues of discrimination or potential discrimination.t;
This week, in the discussion over the Arizona law, Obama took Mexico’s side. Even though the law simply allows Arizona police officers to do exactly what U.S. Border Patrol officers are supposed to do (arrest illegal immigrants), Obama called it “misguided” after earlier saying it would lead to racial profiling. Worse, he let Mexican President Felipe Calderon call the law a racially motivated human rights violation.
Calderon has previously said, “Criminalizing immigration, which is a social and economic phenomena, this way opens the door to intolerance, hate, and discrimination. My government cannot and will not remain indifferent when these kinds of policies go against human rights.”
Speaking before Congress on Wednesday, he attacked the law again, saying it was “a terrible idea using racial profiling as a basis for law enforcement.”
But the law a) doesn’t criminalize immigration, and b) specifically prohibits racial profiling. No American president should let such a gross distortion of his own people’s motivations and behaviors go unchallenged. But Obama let it stand — because he agrees with it.
This is not the behavior of a politician who is proud of his country. It is the behavior of one who is ashamed of his own nation and its history.
On Wednesday night, Calderon received a state dinner. The only other recipient of a state dinner with President Obama was Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. That was not by accident. Obama refused a state dinner for British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, a snub that the British correctly took as a deep and deliberate offense. The president is signaling a switch in America’s view of the world. It is a shift of profound importance.
America’s old alliances are out. Her old way of perceiving the world is, too. We are no longer part of a Western alliance of nations unified by shared cultural and political ideals. We are no longer leaders of the world, guiding others forward to modernity and liberty. We are merely one cluster of humans among a planet of equals.
In this view, all cultures, all beliefs, all viewpoints are equally valid. And if none is better than any other, why should one nation treat the people of another any differently than it treats its own? Why even draw borders separating one people from another?
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drudge ette obama| 5.21.10 @ 6:19AM
Get back to your country and stay there. You are not my amigo.
Where is your concern that your country can't accommodate your own people and provide a home for them to build their families and world?
No more money from me. No tourism. No tortillas. No mole. Keep your lousy beer. I will drink lousy American beer.
As for Obama - he's spineless or he's a worthless American in name only. Another missed opportunity for you, Obama. You could have been a contender.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡| 5.21.10 @ 10:19AM
I recommend that you learn to brew your own beer. If there is no decent home brew shop in your neck of the woods, just do a google search and find one on line. If you know anyone who is brewing his own, ask for advice. But get started while you still can.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡
gill.Oteen07041776@gmail.com
Go Galt!
Only 975 days to go.
drudge ette obama| 5.21.10 @ 8:49PM
Thanks, Gill. There's always vodka -hey, collect vodka- it's a barter item if the world falls apart.
Bydand76| 5.22.10 @ 6:24AM
Drudge,
A good single malt Highland Whisky will go a long ways!
Pro Libertate!
Bruce | 5.22.10 @ 1:17PM
Being of Scottish heritage, a fine single malt or three are always in my cupboard. But to broadcast you are a true American ... it's BOURBON, baby! Not that "Jack" crap, but for real by God small batch stuff.
JOcon307| 5.22.10 @ 7:39PM
"Not that "Jack" crap"
Jack Daniels, although shelved by liquor stores next to the Bourbon, does not identify itself as a Bourbon.
IMHO Jack Daniels is nothing more than high-end moonshine.
For a very good Bourbon (of which hubby and friend once drank an entire bottle without getting into a fight) I recommend Four Roses. Woodford Reserve is also excellent.
keyskid| 5.23.10 @ 3:18AM
JOcon307,
Have you even tasted a "real" high end moonshine?? Some of the best whiskies in the world are produced in the hill country of N.C. by "good ol' boy" craftsmen. It's "Drinkin Liquor", not "Sellin' Liquor". Jack Daniels comes in a distant third. Since moonshine's an illegal product per our equally illegal government you must know someone to get it. Just thought you might like to know. Have a nice day!
Jocon307| 5.23.10 @ 6:05PM
That is interesting!
If an opportunity ever comes my way I'll toast one to you keyskid!
drudge ette obama| 5.23.10 @ 6:54PM
A stop by your cottage with glass in hand and we'd have a good visit.
Ned| 5.24.10 @ 1:07PM
Jack is "Okay", but too sharp... Maker's Mark is the (commercial) way to go... made just up the road in Loretto, KY...
c. j. acworth| 5.24.10 @ 6:40PM
Bruce, you are so right. Good old American corn is the only thing for me. I'm partial to Knob Creek myself.
Eric Cartman| 5.21.10 @ 11:18AM
You have to ask yourself, drudge ette, why his countryamigos don't go back. Driving down the street in Katy or Houston, Texas you will see illegals hanging off the back of stinking, dirty garbage trucks in 105 degree heat with 98% humidity looking like they are about to pass out into the truck's scoop area from dehydration. (It goes to these guys tenacity that they do this job - you have to respect them for that.)
I was looking at a couple of these guys one day and the and it struck me: They would rather be hanging off the back of stinking, dirty garbage trucks in 105 degree heat with 98% humidity about to die from dehydration than live in Mexico!
So Mexico (for these guys) is worse than a dirty stinking garbage truck.
Then, you have to take it a bit further: These guys go home to a ghetto (barrio) where they are ripped-off buy the landlords who stack about 20 people into a run-down, two bedroom crap hole for about 500 bucks each so they can get shot at buy the drug dealers and other drunk illegals coming home from the illegal bars at night or have their wives and little girls pimped out buy a local gangster who is probably their landlord.
So this is how bad Mexico is - worse than a dirty, stinking garbage truck driven by your landlord who pimps your wife out at the illegal bar at night. WOW!
But then it's even worse than that. These people paid drug dealing coyotes to cheat death to schlep through the desert in the middle of the night to get to a place where they will hang off the back of stinking, dirty garbage trucks in 105 degree heat with 98% humidity and die from dehydration while their wives are pimped out by their landlord.
In short, Mexico really sucks!
Oh, BTW, I put this together from actual stories about illegals in Houston. So, when liberals (who are responsible for this ) complain about this post, they should take comfort in knowing they are responsible for these conditions. Enjoy!
Lullaby's, Legends and Lies| 5.21.10 @ 12:38PM
Eric: This has absolutely nothing to do with this story, but I just stumbled upon it, and I think it's right up your alley, sense of humor wise. It's about the Prophet that will remain nameless, otherwise you're going to die!! I got a good laugh at it!!
http://www.zipperfish.com/zf-t.....2-muslims/
Eric Cartman| 5.21.10 @ 12:55PM
HA! Now that's funny, I don't care who ya are! Thanks L-Cubed!
Nancy| 5.22.10 @ 9:14PM
That is one funny video. I loved the picture of Mohammed.
birther1957| 5.23.10 @ 10:27AM
HAHA. LMAO This is to funny. I just sent to to my facebook account to share with all my friends.
drudge ette obam| 5.21.10 @ 9:10PM
Eric, a thoughtful and factual rendition that you painted.
I have lived in Texas - Houston, Austin, Dallas... I have seen the things you write about in your post. The heat is horrid -but it is not only the hispanics that have suffered those harsh working conditions. Many others have, as well.I know that many of us have driven by in summer and wondered how these men can stand the heat.
But we have brave military in Iraq who are now facing terrible heat as the summer months hit their duty region. Our lifestyle is owed to these men and to the sovereignty of our country. They do this for their country, not for $15/hour.
Yes, when faced with the alternative of living in Mexico with no education - probably illiterate in their own land, their own home, sweating it out on tar top roofs and agricultural fields must seem like the easiest choice. When you don't know better, second best is pretty good. So they remain here in America.
The Mexican's own country is remarkable in its resources, variety and beauty. But the native people have been poorly treated by the ones in power. Education has never been a priority. And hard working and capable people have no future there.
All that said, my country must protect itself against intruders who offer no more than the sweat off their backs. We can not sustain the numbers unless these people better themselves and commit to the defense and love of my country, which they don't.
The illegal aliens don't build a world here except for the barest substinance. Money is sent back to their country, much of it earned without paying taxes which citizens are obligated to pay. I see little evidence of illegal aliens crying of the beauty of our country, learning the language and acclaiming the political system which was so fiercely fought by so many beautiful men of so many generations. These are a people who are not here for the long haul.
America is no more than a cow with some ticks on its back which the Mexican illegals eat, then send the profit back to their homeland.
I wish these people would cherish and applaud their potential new homeland. But that is not the case. All that aside, my heart goes out to those who put their survival on the line for betterment. I dare say, many in this country would not know how this drive for survival is achieved.
Eric Cartman| 5.22.10 @ 4:32PM
Yup. It's a pretty disheartening thing to see. Mexico is so corrupt that its corrupting this nation as well. No one, and I mean no one, has had the guts to stop the flow of cheap labor or crooked votes because they don't really care about this nation - they care about their power. 90% of the politicians should be tried for treason on this matter.
Mexico sees us as a cash cow, you're right. But we're a pressure valve as well. They need this border porous so these people don't revolt. Its disgusting to see our politicians kowtow to Mexico, but they are gutless scum who love cheap yard work over their country. What about the AZ Governor for President in 2012? SHE has guts!
drudge ette obama| 5.23.10 @ 6:56PM
Yes, she has. And many treat the Mexican illegals aliens like slaves. Like the Chinese.
danglingwrangler| 5.22.10 @ 1:34AM
Nobody buys your blame of the Obama Administration for the illegal immigrants in this country other than other GOP swine.
We had 20 of the past 28 years under Republican Presidents, so there is more than enough GOP blame to go around.
Why are Republicans hell-bent to topple the United States Government and abandon democracy for ALL legal U.S. citizens ???
TaterSalad| 5.22.10 @ 4:27PM
Dude........you got it all backwards on this one unless you are a moronic socialist. I'd put money on it that you are.
Eric Cartman| 5.22.10 @ 4:34PM
Dangle this, asshole! Who isn't blaming Republicans also, numbnuts? Your socialist panties are showing.
T Lee| 5.23.10 @ 1:00AM
Wow, some mighty sensitive people on here ... I wonder whose panties are showing.
drudge ette oabam| 5.24.10 @ 6:59AM
Venus Williams'
P.O Marine| 5.23.10 @ 3:21PM
......and abandon democracy for all legal citizens, see there's your problem, we are not, repeat not a democracy, We are in fact a Representative Republic, get that through your communist thick head. We are not the one that want to topple the U.S. Government, it's you fellow comrades in arms, seiu, democrap's, communist organizations, fellow travelers of the progressive types and general parasites to the working class of this Country. Do us all a favor and adopt a free-loafer if you are so concerned about us toppling the grubmint.
Christopher Holland| 5.23.10 @ 9:52PM
I take it you have trouble understanding there is a difference between legal immigration and illegal immigration? A very common affliction among liberal intellectuals, especially those prone to call conservatives stupid.
chuck(oof, oof)| 5.22.10 @ 8:11AM
Eric,
You're absolutely right! I lived in Houston for 9 years, am currently in GA, and been in construction for 30 years. I've known more Mexicans, legal and illegal than most people commenting here. For the most part, they just want a decent life for themselves and their families, and there here because it SUCKS in Mexico. If and when they go back to visit, they have to hide their money, because the lawlessness is out of control. I had a friend tell me people will kill you if they know you got money on you. If you try to travel, you get stopped everywhere and have to pay these gangsters off to let you pass. It is just unimaginable there.
I can see both side of the issue, respect of the law vs. a chance at a decent life. However, the law is the law, and if they break it, and are caught, send them back. I had a guy work for me, yes, an illegal, who was brought to this country by his parents when he was less than a year old. He grew up here, spoke both English and Spanish, worked hard, but just couldn't stay out of trouble. Nothing serious, underage drinking and such. But the judge just got tired of seeing him, so he got the free ride back to Mexico. I don't think he even knows anyone there, but it's his own fault.
I really think we need to secure the borders, enforce the existing laws, deport anyone here illegally who commits a crime, and then decide what to do with the millions of illegals that are decent hard working people who are willing to hang of the garbage trucks in Houston weather.
Eric Cartman| 5.22.10 @ 5:05PM
Oof oof! LOL! It's not even a question, in my mind. That must be sent back if they are here illegally. We've been married for 5 years and my wife STILL can not get her children here (maybe this year). She has done everything legally and it has cost us thousands and untold heartache. Mexicans want special treatment - plop over the border onto a big pillow and carried to the nearest hospital to plop out an anchor baby and for us to shut up about it. It's disgusting.
With that said, you're right that most just want to escape the corrupt crap hole that is Mexico. And the thing is, I would rather have their work ethic instead on the typical American Teen work ethic. I've hired teens to wash dishes and bus tables and they just think its beneath them. They think they should be promoted to CEO after two weeks. But I've seen 40-year old Mexicans work 2 restaurant jobs to support his family (go to The Cheesecake Factory in the Galleria in Houston and notice the bus-staff). They are hard workers, but they are here illegally. We are not Mexico's part-time employer. Mexico has to clean up its act and stop with the socialist business model and wholesale corruption. One way to do that is to plug up the border until the country explodes. Its a gamble who will win (socialists vs capitalists), but I bet Mexicans are smart enough to figure out what system works better.
Oof oof!
chuck(oof oof)| 5.22.10 @ 5:57PM
I've got another Mexican (legal,btw) working for me. The other day I told him the best thing we could do for Mexico was to invade the place and set up a decent government for them, rid them of the corruption and the drug violence. He wholeheartly agreed with me.
I say, pull the troops from the Middle East, give them the summer off, then send them down to rescue the amigos.
oof oof
Eric Cartman| 5.22.10 @ 6:09PM
Sounds like a plan! I forget who it was, but some pinhead was misunderstanding what I was saying a while ago. Anywho, I pointed out to them that Canada - big, empty, cold & snowy Canada - is a first world nation, while Mexico - beautiful, warm, mineral rich Mexico - is a third world nation. I asked this putz why that was. Don't think they ever got back with me on it. Guess they couldn't figure it out.
I'm all for your "Mexico Anti-corruption and Freedom Act" Invasion. We'll have to ask L Cubed if he wouldn't mind being put upon once again, though ;-)
Oof oof!
chuck(oof oof)| 5.22.10 @ 7:04PM
Hell, if I wasn't so damned old, I'd sign up for the Mexican invasion myself. Pretty women, good food, and tequila!
oof oof
Defend| 5.23.10 @ 1:12AM
If you hired an illegal, you broke the law - and THIS is why illegals continue to cross our borders...because American employers are not fined - big-time - for hiring them. In the 1980's, the fine was $2K...I'd make at least $5k today for EACH hired.
I don't care HOW F'N bad it is in Mexico - that is THEIR country...that is how the dice are rolled.
I GREW UP 20 miles from the border and I can tell you that we are not the answer to Mexico's ills. You want a screwed country? Give them amnesty, idiots.
We ALREADY GAVE AMNESTY IN 1986. We were supposed to have closed borders after that...so GIVE IT THE F up.
NO AMNESTY. ILLEGALS LIVE IN MEXICO. FINE EMPLOYERS...GET THE SELF-DEPORTATION GOING.
I've lived on the border all my life...and you idiots don't know a f'n thing if you believe all of that f'n wishy-washy b.s. about the poor illegals. TOO F'N BAD.
Eric Cartman| 5.23.10 @ 1:49AM
Um, never said I hired an illegal - on the contrary, I said I hired Teenagers and Americans who apply for these positions. I just wish teens had these peoples work ethic - in ANYTHING!. I have been to and worked for people who hire illegals - The Cheesecake Factory hires illegals all the time. They love illegal aliens. Makes them a lot of money (worked there - I know). Will ICE visit The Cheesecake Factory? Hell no! They should, though.
chuck(oof oof)| 5.23.10 @ 9:04AM
I freely admit to hiring illegals, and for you idiots out there that say it's just cheap labor, you don't have a clue. I ran a small construction company, residential framing. For years I refused to hire Mexicans, and the sorry assed white boys that I did find would come in drunk, stoned, or just not show up at all. I can't tell you how many days I worked by myself. Try framing a house by yourself, its not easy. Finally it came to the point that it was hire Mexicans or go out of business. After I hired my first one, within a week I had a full crew, that showed up everyday, on time, never stoned or drunk, were polite, did anything asked of them, and were thankful to have work. I paid them as much or more than the Americans who worked for me because they were worth it. They knew what the going rate for good framers was, and they were going to get it, or go elsewhere. They're not stupid, and they don't work for free!
For those of you who have never run a business, something like construction, or hanging off a garbage truck, something really dirty, hot, hard-assed work, you don't have a clue what it's like just to find people willing to do it. So keep spouting off, make yourself feel good, but deep down just realize you don't have a fucking clue!
oof oof
Jonathan C| 5.21.10 @ 1:47PM
drudge ette obama = moron liberal troll trying to embarrass the Tea Party and make us look like uneducated racists. Ignore trolls like this guy.
Sam| 5.21.10 @ 5:20PM
I'll do my best, Mr. Jonathan C. And I'm guessing you don't support Eric Cartman's false analysis of Mexico.
I live in San Diego and one of my relatives does does business in the U.S. and Mexico, and he crosses the border regularly. I myself just got back from a stay in Ensenada Mexico. We stayed right in the downtown area and had a great time, but if we believed fools like Mr. Cartman and the lame stream media, we'd think that all of Mexico is a dangerous country where you can get shot at any moment and everyone is poor.
Eric, you are a liberal troll trying to ruin this site. Stop believing the lame stream media because they make money on stories that rip on Mexico.
For everyone else: Mexico is a great country and you should visit sometime. Obviously, there are certain cities you should not visit (Ciudad Juarez)
But you will be surprised by how nice it is and how friendly the people there are. Learning some Spanish would also help.
Eric Cartman| 5.21.10 @ 5:37PM
My brother has a place in Baja and one in Cancun. I used to have a timeshare in Cancun and have traveled the ruins for many years - love Isla Mujeres and the Cave of the Sleeping Sharks and have very fine memories of meeting some great people (Yes, Sam, Mexican people. They still have them in Mexico - not all of them are here. . . yet.) I don't go there anymore because Cancun has turned into drunk teenybopper heaven and the rest of Mexico is too corrupt (unless your Sam, then it's just peachy!)
With that out of the way, Sam, if Mexico is such a great place for the average Juan, why do they come here and hang off the back of stinking, dirty garbage trucks in 105 degree heat with 98% humidity and live in squalor and risk their lives to get here and to do it? Doesn't seem logical, does it? Are they stupid? I don't think so. I think that one situation must be better than the other, don't you, Sam? Now, which situation would that be? I guess you can't discern the point of my post. Putz.
Next!
Sam| 5.22.10 @ 10:09PM
I'm glad you at least have been to Mexico once. Perhaps you should go again. But your argument that Mexico is awful for the average Juan is based on... one experience you had seeing illegals on the back of a garbage truck? Really? And you assume that conditions are bad for ALL Mexicans based on that? There are over 100 million people in Mexico. And 6-7 on the back of a garbage truck tells you how 100 million people are faring?
Eric, you have a set of perceptions on Mexico that the lame stream media has given you use that experience with the 6-7 illegals to justify your perception. Don't feel too bad- it's human nature to use irrational examples to justify our perceptions. Because it is irrational to assume that 6-7 illegals represent all 12 million illegals in this country or the 100 million people of Mexico.
Sadly Eric, you are not alone. Many many Americans are also misinformed. Please check out this site, then respond to my post.
http://www.thetruthaboutmexico.com/about/
drudge ette obama| 5.21.10 @ 9:30PM
Sam, you are odd. An probably a bit naive.
drudge ette obama| 5.21.10 @ 9:35PM
Mexico may seem safe to you, but I hear that Arizona is Mad Max land. When Rotary Clubs meet in secret for fear of being kidnapped, how can you paint today's Mexico in such a manner?
Sam| 5.22.10 @ 10:12PM
So one or two rotary clubs meet in secret and that's a commentary on MEXICO? That says more about the rotary clubs and their irrational fear.
Defend| 5.23.10 @ 1:14AM
You are a god-dammed liberal, Progressive paid hack. F off.
drudge ette obama| 5.23.10 @ 7:01PM
Sam, Rotary Clubs are the community, you aren't. Rotary Clubs know what is happening. You think you know from Huffington or Daily Kos.
Sam, I am ...and you ain't.
Alan Brooks| 5.23.10 @ 7:29PM
"So one or two rotary clubs meet in secret and that's a commentary on MEXICO? That says more about the rotary clubs and their irrational fear."
Sam,
the border is America's #1 challenge ("challenge" being PC for threat). You are minimizing the "challenges", Sam. The wars in the Mideast and Afghanistan are almost certainly less of a long-term threat than what is brewing on the border.
Alan Brooks| 5.23.10 @ 7:34PM
... BTW,
"on" the border is PC, too. The 'challenges' are on the border, in the border, and AROUND the border.
You do not help at all by minimizing the long time difficulties of the immigration status quo. Feel-good talk doesn't help Mexicans in the long run, either.
Sam| 5.25.10 @ 3:30PM
Alan,
Since you always seem to be thinking clearly when you post (unlike some other people here), I will gladly respond. Just stop with the whole PC nonsense. I'm not a liberal, despite what the
clowns on this site think.
I am not minimizing the challenges. I know what is going on there. Now I know you'd prefer to focus on Mexico as a source of illegal immigration- which is a legitimate threat to the U.S. But the solution has always been very simple: Stop hiring them and they will go away. As long as Americans will hire them, they will keep coming.
The drugs are a different matter. We must do what we can to assist Mexico and my biggest fear is that the Mexican people, weary of the drug-related violence, will kick out the PAN and put someone into power who will let the cartels operate as they please.
Bottom line Alan: I understand what's going on. But you need to understand that the media has overblown the situation, just like the overblew the swine flu and other things.
Lullaby's, Legends and Lies| 5.21.10 @ 9:54PM
Sam: So you've been to Mexico? Wow!! You're a braver man than me!! You couldn't pay me to go down there!! Now I've been to Iraq a few times since 2003, now if you want to talk about a place with great weather? Well Fhagetaboutit!! But Iraq in comparison, is so much more safer, than our neighbor's Country to the South (IMHO)!!
As an example:
Mexico's Drug War Death Tally in 2009 Eclipses Civilian Deaths in Iraq
Jan. 12, 2010
Rob Kuznia-HispanicBusiness.com
Mexico witnessed an astonishing 69 murders in a single day on Saturday, in a gruesome sign that the country's notorious drug wars are showing no signs of slowing down.__The grisly record comes just after authorities put the number of drug-related killings for 2009 at around 6,500, according to the Associated Press. That's at least 2,000 more than the number of civilians killed in the Iraq War last year, according to the BBC.__It was the worst year of bloodshed since President Felipe Calderon declared war on the drug cartels in late 2006, deploying 45,000 troops into the streets to take them on.__The violence, according to the Associated Press, is also becoming more gruesome. Last week, authorities found a soccer ball with the torn-off face of a man sewn to it. (And it's only gotten worse since then!!)
Maybe next time you're planning a vacation, instead of going to such a dangerous place as Mexico, you might want to consider going to Baghdad. Iraq is a great country too, that you should visit sometime in your life. Although, there are a few cities there too, that you might want to avoid. Like Fallujah, Basra, Mosul, Tikrit, and a few others, that I couldn't spell, if I had AK-47 pointed at my head. But don't lose your head over those places, as long as you stay in an up-armored vehicle, you should be okay. Hopefully?
So Eric's a lying Liberal Troll? Now that's funny!! I always knew there was something about that character, but I just couldn't put my finger on it.
Eric Cartman| 5.22.10 @ 5:06PM
Thanks for gettin' my back, L Cubed. Stay safe, we need ya.
Sam| 5.22.10 @ 10:33PM
LLL-
I'm not a braver man than you. Just a smarter man. One who does not live his life afraid of irrational fears created by the lame stream media so that they can make a profit. Now to your stats:
6500 drug-related killings. Do you have any drugs on you? Do you have any connections to the cartels or to the street dealers in Mexico? Than you have nothing to fear! And the U.S. had slightly more murders last year than Mexico.
And you say that the AP has proclaimed more gruesome violence? Again, you cite (the AP cites) ONE MURDER! Yes it's gruesome, but that's where your irrational fear kicks in. Based on everything you've already read in the lame stream media about Mexico, this one detail adds to your false perception.
Every good conservative knows not to trust the AP, NYT, or other lame stream media outlets. They have an agenda- to sell you news. They will report whatever they believe is a big story because that's how they make money. The narrative they've crafted about Mexico sells news because they report stories that scare people.
Eric Cartman| 5.23.10 @ 2:49AM
Yeah, that's right L Cubed. Sam isn't braver or smarter than you. Nor does Sam want to tell you how he is better than you in irrational fears. Also, news reports from AP in El Paso are not to be believed and that I am a Liberal (LOL).
L Cubed - Sam's an asshole. Nough said :-)
Roy| 5.21.10 @ 5:27PM
Drudge did not say anything racist and, at least, the original person using that handle is not a troll.
It can get really confusing in these comments sections what with the fact that TAS does not have any type of authentication.
drudge ete obama| 5.21.10 @ 9:21PM
Roy, thanks for the support....I didn't pay that guy much attention. I will admit that when I was a kid, I loved trolls....But that doesn't make me one.
drudge ette obama| 5.21.10 @ 9:17PM
dum dum, Jonathan. You missed every point that manges to stick you in the a
Alan Brooks| 5.21.10 @ 11:38PM
"Let's grant for the sake of argument that Obama was right and President Bush's cowboy swagger made non-Americans dislike our country. Even if that were 100 percent true,"
Can the inference be that it is 99 percent true?
Why bring it up in the first place?
audax| 5.22.10 @ 3:32AM
May I suggest you drink a good Czech beer like Pilsner Urquell? Thanks
drudge ette obama| 5.22.10 @ 8:21AM
Excellent suggestion - one of my favorites. And I don't have to pay for them with pesos, yet.
drudge ette obama| 5.22.10 @ 8:30AM
No one has mentioned what the astute politicians must be thinking of now.
The little girl who outed her mother as an illegal said that Barack Obama was going to send people away who didn't have papers.
My first thought was that it was strange that the little girl would use the entire name of Barack Obama.
Then I thought, Obama has a problem because the children speak for the parents and this mother thought it was Barack Obama doing the returing.
Rahm Emanuel probably is on this as we speak. Goal being to disassociate Obama from being the immigration enforcer. Conservatives should take this to the bank.
My third thought, best as I remember, was that the kid was a plant and pushed to say this or something like it. Her use of Barrack's first name was too smooth.
JoshINHB| 5.22.10 @ 10:33AM
I don't think she was a plant because she expressed a fear of O.
Also, Michelle's response wasn't very good.
Alan Brooks| 5.23.10 @ 7:12PM
"Only 975 days to go."
'Til another amnesty?
drudge ette obama| 5.21.10 @ 6:25AM
Obama looks like he is bowing again to Calderon.
Also, the "rata" that crossed the podium path while Obama was babbling was probably heading back to Michelle's veggie garden to join his other rata amigos where they've been working on the lettuce patch that everyone enjoyed during the State Dinner.
Finally, if the press is going to complain about press conferences with no questions, STOP covering our first anti-americanophile president.
Matt| 5.21.10 @ 8:39AM
'La rata' and his amigo's--LOL!
Brian Mc| 5.21.10 @ 6:47AM
This is disgusting and I'm seething all the way through the article.
The liberal stench is overpowering. Come November, will we be courageous enough, mindful enough to stick our collective fingers down our throats? God help us. The results from PA is a shot across the Republic's bow and we had better take notice...the battle is only beginning.
blarset | 5.21.10 @ 8:32AM
The shot across the bow started in Massachussetes and continues thru, Kentucky,Idaho,Pennsylvania,Arizona,Florida,
New Mexico,Ohio,Indiana-2010 electorate revolution America Rising
Stephanie| 5.21.10 @ 6:48AM
Gretchen Carlson just had a good idea on FOX this morning. Those running for seats in the house this fall should use the shot of the dems give the mexican a standing O yesterday, zoom in on the face needed and remind their constituants t hat they don't want to close the boarders. This is so unbeliveable.
Matt| 5.21.10 @ 8:38AM
Funny--I said that exact thing to my wife last night. I think it would be effective and if nothing else, make the Dems think twice about standing with a foreign power against one of the States in the Union.
WRTolkas| 5.21.10 @ 10:36AM
Dear Miss Stephanie,
AMEN Sister! I saw that dimocrats standing ovation to that mexican president - I almost lost my lunch. Every damn one who stood should have had their picture taken and be used by Republicans this November.
Remember the Alamo, Remember the Maine, Remember Pearl Harbor, Remember 9/11 and Remember this November!
Have a safe weekend,
WRTolkas
Deborah D | 5.21.10 @ 11:37AM
Stephanie -- I think Gretchen has the right idea! To me, seeing those Democrats standing and applauding a foreign head of state bashing our country truly reminded me of the Democrats after passing Obamacare. (Or on the way through the Tea Partiers). They were arrogant, spiteful, hateful in their disregard for the American people. This is what Obama's America has come to. These are the folks we must rid ourselves of in November.
Stephanie| 5.21.10 @ 2:38PM
I believe the dims screwed themselves last night.
TaterSalad| 5.22.10 @ 4:31PM
TeaParty: Video's are being put together as we speak for the coming elections with every Democrat clapping to the Obama/Calderon tune in the Chambers. They can run but they can't hide.
Majito| 5.21.10 @ 6:51AM
Come on folks, let's not be too harsh on POTUS...have not learned from the liberal talking heads? See the background, he was not born in the US, was raised in Indonesia, attended muslim schools, him mom appeared to chase only purple skinned men, his maternal grandparents are were some left loons of the kind only California can produce...he has no idea what is to be an American...no connection with culture and his wife, God forgive me but that lady looks like she'll be at home commanding Tony Montana's executive escorts. I bet pennies to dollars that he does not know where route 66 is, never seen first hand the Amarillo's Cadillac Ranch and never been on a car west of I-94
JoshINHB| 5.22.10 @ 10:36AM
"his maternal grandparents are were some left loons of the kind only California can produce"
Except the were from Kansas, WA and HI.
cRNOT| 5.23.10 @ 2:26PM
a loon from any other state - is still a loon!
Carol| 5.21.10 @ 7:07AM
Calderone read a speech written by one of Obama's goons. It was something Obama would have read with pride.
The real Calderone came out on CNN with Wolf Blitzer. He was asked about his nation's own immigration laws and said of course they check papers and kick out illegals. The only thing Blitzer didn't point out was the hypocrisy.
Obama is the enemy of America.
Louis Jenkins| 5.21.10 @ 8:26AM
Carol:
Yep, the real Calderone came out on CNN. The Pretender n Chief is the enemy of America. This whole mess burns me to no end. Pull out the troops in Afganhistan and Iraq, and put them on the border. No, better yet, invade Mexico again.
Mike| 5.21.10 @ 3:48PM
An enemy the likes of which we have never seen. God help us is we don't oust him in 2012. God help us if we don't cripple his agenda in this Fall's elections.
Darin| 5.21.10 @ 7:07AM
Has the United States ever had a President who gave every indication of hating their country as much as Obama does? Obama cares about Obama. Period.
Kenny| 5.21.10 @ 7:14AM
Will B. Hussein Obama ever defend out borders?
He would if it were Irish, Italinas, Sweeds and the like from Europe who were pouring in.
But being a Third Worlder himself, Obama can't bring himself to say 'no' to Mexicians.
Petronius| 5.24.10 @ 9:13AM
K
...especially since they are killing people who didn't vote for him
Richard Baker| 5.21.10 @ 7:39AM
I hope he and his family have a new home picked out after 2012. The Kenyan's hatred for his own country is on display daily at 1600 Pennsylvania. God Save the United States until then.
audax| 5.22.10 @ 3:44AM
You did say he is a Kenyan? So, you mean his "adopted" or "alleged" country don't you?
Ret. Marine| 5.21.10 @ 7:54AM
Yes indeed, what we have here is another poser, just like the Ct. AG. They are equally adapt at the lies, equally disdane what defines the American way and customs and equally as dangerous to the safety and concerns of the people under their charge. I guess the only thing awaiting them is the judgement from the one who they both will answer to. I see a reality check coming for the both of them. It that going to be sweet of what?
One thing for sure is going to happen, this totus has so filled the hearts around him with so much hatred for him, he'll be lucky to even get back into Kenya when We the People boot him and his entire criminal organization to the curb.
AMERICA you either love it, or get out.
Ragnar| 5.22.10 @ 12:37AM
Semper Fi to you Ret. Marine. The Ghosts of Chesty and Manila John cry out to those who man the walls of the Republic to take it back from the scumbag usurpers and leftist fakes.
Stephanie| 5.21.10 @ 7:59AM
Has anyone seen the 2 news videos from an NBC affiliate in Atlanta that talks about middle eastern terrorists coming into Arizona with the multitudes of mexicans? They say these terrorists are flying into South America, learning spanish and to assimilate and then move on into the US. SO! How many middle eastern terrorists to we have hiding in plain site here in our country, more than likely planning attacks on innocent American citizens? Does Barry care?
Louis Jenkins| 5.21.10 @ 8:21AM
Stepahnie:
I once said on this website: "Why are they trying to kill us?" The Pretender n Chief is out to do just that. Barry Soerto doesn't care. Plain and simple.
Anthony| 5.21.10 @ 8:54AM
This country is in deep trouble with this president. All you need to know about Obama is what he said about the Arizona law and the lawlessness on the border. Obama said "We are not a nation defined by our borders". Translation: Open borders and amnesty for all illegals. America has no borders and has no right to define who we are as a nation.
This statement demonstrates that Obama is in dereliction of his duties as president. He is failing to abide by the Constitution and protect the very sovereignity of this nation. President's have been impeached for far less.
Obama is hell bent on the destruction of America as we know it.
Brian Mc| 5.21.10 @ 10:16AM
Great, eye-opening observation, Anthony!
I just wish someone in the Senate would read it and act upon it...
Spike| 5.21.10 @ 11:02AM
Never let a crisis go to waste.
And if you must, create your own crisis. There are only two ways that Obama and the Dim's can retain power past November, and through 2012. 1) Turn around the economy, to the tune of, say 6% Unemployment, or 2) Seize power through either "Executive Power" (for our own good), or through "International Treaty" (circumventing the Constitition). As it is unlikely that the economy appears to be fixable(with the current cabal), look for signs of dictatorial actions.
Irish22| 5.21.10 @ 4:02PM
We can only hope that the American people will never again be fooled the way they were by Obama . . . and that conservatives stick to their principles after being elected
Anthony| 5.21.10 @ 12:01PM
In addition to my last post, Obama, our post-partisan president and great unifier, has managed through his malfeasance and nonfeasance, to turn city against state, state against city, state against state, and citizen against citizen.
We are on the verge of complete chaos. This country has never been closer to civil war since the actual Civil War. This man needs to be impeached and removed from office before America explodes.
What's even worse, he either is completely blind to this, or this is a crisis he wants to use to dismantle America as we know it.
JS| 5.21.10 @ 1:19PM
What people call the 'Civil War' circa 1860-1865 was, if fact, not a civil war. By definition a civil war is a war where two groups are fighting for control of the same government. The Civil War (War of Northern Agression) was fought to keep independent states from leaving a Union. I am not arguing the merits for either side involved in this war, only stating the fact that it is misnamed.
I completely agree with you about the current situation we are in. We are about to embark on this country's first civil war - a war where 2 groups what control of our government. Get prepared. We are about to reap the whirlwind.
Majito| 5.21.10 @ 9:38AM
Well i wont say from whom, but i'm very close to folks who were part of the humint section of DoD and they were constantly called upon to go and interview so called 'mexicans' that were caught swimming or running through the border...plenty of middle eastern folks with passports from brazil, ecuador, venezuela and paraguay...these impostors were easy to catch...the dod folks had interrogators that were rabid soccer fans...any question about brazilian soccer to a brazilian would be like asking which city is the statue of liberty located to an american...all failed...oh and plenty of chinese too...we're indundated with these type of folks...i keep saying maybe it'll take a nuke blast in a metropolitan area to get the us citizenry to wake up...and i do hope this isn't the case...
Gill O’Teen ✝✡| 5.21.10 @ 10:34AM
I heard Lady Liberty was last seen standing on line at the local unemployment office having been fired by mullah holder. Seems she was deemed too controversial and offensive to sharia practitioners because she was in public without a male relative chaperone.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡
gill.Oteen07041776@gmail.com
Go Galt!
Only 975 days to go.
martin j smith| 5.21.10 @ 8:01AM
I think there should be a " NOT IN MY NAME"
petition--with every American ( US ) being able to simply sign on ( no questions about money or info ) and in this petition would be concepts such as these:
We, the Undersigned US citizens do not accept,agree or associate ourselves with the following from the Obama admini
stration:
1) Any apology
2) The distancing from our allies abroad such as Poland and other Eastern European nations,Israel,friends in Central America such as Honduras,Japan,South Korea etc
3)We no not subscribe to a policy of appeasing dictators of any type
4)We do not agree with our disarmament policies because they put our nation at great risk
5) Enemy combatants do not belong in civilian courts--they are prisoners of war. We do not believe in giving enemy combantants Miranda Rights or the privledges associated with US citizenship.
6)We believe our nation is the beacon of Human Rights and we condemn our governments failure to support Freedom Movements such as those in Iran.
7)We disagree with President Obama regarding his inviting the President of Mexico to lecture us in Congress--Mr Calderon has a lot to answer for in his own land and Mr Obama's behavior is not just inappropriate, it is un-presidential.
8) With regard to the United Nations --we believe that US should have nothing to do with the bankrupt Human Rights Council that includes nations such as Syria that have a great deal to answer for. And in addition, we believe that tolerating the presence of Iran a nation that constantly threatens another member state is intolerable. We distance ourselves from the Obama adminisrtration's indifference to this
behavior of the Iranian regime. etc
Just an idea--an matter of other issues can be added.
Andrew Keirns| 5.21.10 @ 12:29PM
I like it ...
Something like a "J'acuse" published on the front page of a major national newspaper; or better yet, an online publication with a link to "I agree".
Mimi| 5.21.10 @ 8:10AM
ANDREW: Stunning article!!! Gut wrenching!!! The "O" sure picks his favorites, and Arizona has hit his BLACK-LIST. Yes we the american people have been alarmed and angry at all his policies. But to RILE-UP racial and ethnic controversy in an ignorant, unjust, way,.... about a law he evidently did not read and shows he is not aware in detail of the U.S. law of the land, is stabbing at the HEART of AMERICA. Last night on the " O'Rielly" show, Megan Fox detailed a 2005 SCOTUS decision on immigration, and it turn's out , the U.S. law is stronger than the law ARIZONA is to implement. Where are Democrat's who do not put politics over country? What about the Democrats who live in Arizona? Is the first egg-crack, the election of Pa. - 12 congressman Critz who campaigned on issues he co-opted from the Republican party ...ie..Pro-Life, against the health-care bill etc. Will they allow this President to destroy/annhilate them with this ANTI-AMERICAN rhetoric? We all deserve an apology.... and RIGHT-NOW!!!!!
Mimi| 5.21.10 @ 8:23AM
We not only want an apology Mr. President......WE WANT TODAY, IMMEDIATELY TO SEE 3000 TROOPS ON THE ARIZONA BORDER. Also Folks: Did he not take an OATH?
Stephanie| 5.21.10 @ 8:29AM
The oath taken by ALL in congress and the prez is it seems, just a formality. It means nothing anymore, especially for Barry.
WalkingHorse| 5.21.10 @ 10:24AM
Mr. Obama has more in common with the pidgeons that roost on D.C. statuary than with a genuine American political leader.
Mimi| 5.24.10 @ 8:46AM
oops : apology to Megan... Kelley not ...Fox!!!
Louis Jenkins| 5.21.10 @ 8:16AM
Phillipe' Calderon: A worthless peice of thrash if there ever was a country's leader. He trashed the Arizona law and then some. But he also admitted in a public interview with Wolfe Biltzer that: a) the Mexican police and army can ask for anyone's papers at any time, b) that only persons who have something to contribute to the status of Mexico can be considered as 'Keepers", and c) that they have to take a "test" to stay (?). There's more, a lot more. And our Democrats stood up and cheered for this guy? What kind of world are we living in? The Mexicans have a much harder "prove that you're good enough" to live there, than here. The immigrants can walk in to our country, yet if your caught in Mexico and your papers are out of line- two years sentence. Yeah, there's a lot out of alignment between the two countries. And the Democrats are all a-gog over him? This stinks and will not stand!! It will not hold water!! I think the Democrats lost ground yesterday.
Bohred| 5.21.10 @ 8:18AM
Folks, the man thought we have 57 states. You cannot be an American and think we have 57 states. How many of you counted the stars on the flag when you were growing up? While Obama was reading the ketchup bottle we were becoming Americans.
I hope this country has learning something from this.
audax| 5.22.10 @ 3:50AM
Your math skills need improvement. He thinks we have SIXTY STATES! What Obama said was he had already BEEN to 57 States with one more to go (58) and that "My staff will not let me go to Alaska or Hawaii: (+2 States). Now 57+1+2=60!
Defend| 5.23.10 @ 1:17AM
Actually, when American children are learning patriotism and American history, Barry Soetero was living in Indonesia...playing in the dirt and learning all about socialism from his whacked, grant-sucking mother. She shipped him off to her parents when he was 11. He was indoctrinated in the Muslim religion by this time. This freak is no American...I reject him.
NavyBrat | 5.21.10 @ 8:18AM
"Criminalizing immigration, which is a social and economic phenomena, this way opens the door to intolerance, hate, and discrimination. My government cannot and will not remain indifferent when these kinds of policies go against human rights."
El Puto Presidente can get bent. That Narco State is on the brink of collapse, yet we gotta listen to him lecture US? That's rich. All this from a country who's 2 biggest exports are drugs & people. Hey, chingalo, what about YOUR immigration laws?
The ever sharp Ms. Malkin had an article about it:
http://www.washingtonexaminer......16654.html
Yeah, it's SO bad here!
DefendUr| 5.23.10 @ 1:20AM
Mexicans are being told to 'GO TO THE USA' - THEY ARE GIVING AMNESTY, HOUSING, AND FREE FOOD. They know they can get free medical care. They are invading us at record levels - and have been for decades.
In fact, any person on this planet can fly into our country and, if illegal, can go into a hospital for any disease or condition whatsoever. They do it every day. YOU, citizen, cannot get free care.
Tim*| 5.21.10 @ 8:24AM
The angry black Obama is A Serial Traitor to The United States.He is a divisive Deconstructionist Agendist ,who attempts to tear downThe United States' Sovereignty ,Power ,Traditions Culture and Our Free Market Economy.
We ,Tea Party Rebels will not allow this to stand.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates .
Remember In November.
Jeffry Pages| 5.21.10 @ 8:25AM
What the President is doing, is simply brilliant. he has rejected the "old Europe" crowd and has reached out to those nations that this country has so abused and snubbed in the past. All Britain has ever done for us is to involve us in THEIR wars. Had the US spent the effort to build-up Mexico and Latin America, along with the Middle East, instead of spending Trillions on old-Europe, just because they're white people, we would have few of the problems today that plague us. President Obama ran on a "change" ticket and he's living up to his promises. Change is inevitable and we are going to have it! I think it will be for the better too, as we learn more about our impoverished neighbor Mexico and learn begin to live in cooperation with the great Mexican people. As President Obama has already stated, "America is a Muslim country," and it always has been actually. While I adhere to no "religion" I do recognize that we (through Bush and Cheney) have attempted to destroy Islam. My biggest complaint about President Obama is that he has failed to bring about peace in the Middle East with those who truly are our friends, the Muslims. He panders too much to the Jews and they will destroy us.
Matt| 5.21.10 @ 8:31AM
Jeffrey--you're kidding, right? We should look to our Mexican & Central American as strong allies. We called them 'banana republics', because they were corrupt and continuously failed. We chose strong allies with similar interests, that is why UK and Israel are our allies. We like Democracy and support human rights. You need to deal with reality before you post your ignorance here.
drudge ette obama| 5.21.10 @ 9:25PM
Well written, Matt.
no to obama| 5.21.10 @ 8:34AM
You're a freak, Jeffy. Why don't you go live in Mexico and help build them up? Hmmm? Too hard on you to get out of your mamma basement? Might have to do without the luxuries afford to you here in American?
You obama loving progressive socialist prick, you make me spit up in my mouth.
NavyBrat | 5.21.10 @ 8:35AM
You're either a satirist or on acid. Which is it.
"He panders too much to the Jews and they will destroy us."
PS. No, THIS Jew just wants to destroy YOU. Do you cower in fear at night, trembling that the JEWS are gonna get you? Do you keep the only $10 to your name under your mattress so the EVIL JEW bankers don't get it? Now shut up before I choke you out with my knish, putz.
Majito| 5.21.10 @ 10:01AM
No señor Pages, ni puel chiras papa...i was raised in latin america and they're poor not because they lack institutions (they had mayor highways before the pilgrims arrived at Plymouth Rock, universities too), nor natural resources or agricultural land (Bogota colombia is located on a plain larger than the size of metropolitan houston -600 sq mils and anybody can find over 20 ft of the richest dark fertile dirt on the planet)...it's because corrupt politicans and greedy bankers (sounds familiar) are bent on stealing and amazing fortunes for themselves without regards for the common folk...pretty much like america has become over the last 40 or so years...are you proposing we elect/send pelosi, reid, rangel down ther to set them straight? don't forget that Pancho Villa, one of their revolution heroes, was nothing more than a criminal like dillinger, cassidy or any of the james brothers...a bad tree can't give good fruit said a jewish itinerant preacher about 21 centuries ago near jersusalem...the aztecs were not any better...the reason cortez could defeat them was that the toltecas, another aborigine tribe who was ensalved by moctezuma, aided cortez...so that land, south of the us, have been populated by criminals and down right corrupt leaders since before america was a thought in franklin, jefferson or washington minds...
Gill O’Teen ✝✡| 5.21.10 @ 11:18AM
Jeffry, you typed, "America is a Muslim country," and it always has been actually.” Either you are attempting to be a satirist or you are a blumen-fool. Just exactly how many Muslims were aboard the Mayflower? How many were among those who established Jamestown? How many fought in the French and Indian War? How many signed the Declaration of Independence, OUR Constitution? How many froze their toes at Valley Forge or rowed with Washington across the Delaware or defended a bridge at Concord? How many “In 1814 ... took a little trip, Along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip’ ... and ... caught the bloody British in the town of New Orleans”? How many died at Gettysburg? at Antietam? or were with either Grant or Lee at Appomattox? How many rode with Teddy Roosevelt up San Juan Hill? How many died for us during the first war to end all war? How many landed on the Beaches of Normandy in 1944? How many are buried there? The Jews, the Christians, the Japanese, the Chinese, the French, the English, the Irish, the Scots, the Germans and numerous other religions and cultures made significant contributions to OUR Country since before its inception. But I’m at a loss to think of even one from a follower of Mohammed besides the assassination of Bobby Kennedy, two attempts to collapse the World Trade Center (the first failed), destroy the Pentagon and White House (maybe the U.S. Capitol) and recent attempts to bring down a Chicago bound airplane and blow up a bunch of OUR precious children in Times Square. Other than 20th century inner city work by the followers of Wallace D. Fard Muhammad, I ask for proof.
Bydand76| 5.21.10 @ 12:08PM
Hey Gill!
Nice ref to the Johnny Horton song!
I use that song as a cadence when I run my platoon!
Excellent post as well. I could not agree more!
Pro Libertate!
Gill O’Teen ✝✡| 5.21.10 @ 1:58PM
Holy briars and brambles, Bydand76! Someone else out there is a fan of the great Johnny Horton who died much too young. If you like that classic, you should get a copy of the old fiddle tune named the “8th of January”. Jimmie Driftwood used that traditional melody when he wrote this tune. I hope training to this tune gets your platoon in such good shape that when they run they are too fast for the hounds to catch. I don’t think either Horton or Driftwood were muslims, and I’m still waiting for Jeffry to provide an example that OUR Country has always been a muslim nation. May you and all those in your platoon live long and prosper.
blackwatch| 5.21.10 @ 1:46PM
Dude--all of the countries in the America's are former white European colonies.
dutch, spanish, portugeuse, british, frenchies, et al--every single one of them are "white" countries.
"Mexicans" are NOT an indigenous species. They are citizens of a state that is comprosied of Europeans mixed with local Indians and African slaves. Brazilians, Peruvians, etc etc etc
Hint: Mexicans speak Spanish.
you racists are so fucking stupid!!
Gill O’Teen ✝✡| 5.21.10 @ 2:09PM
You’re language leaves something to be desired and your 'stupid' modifier reflects a mind as empty as your post. Would you please state your point in simple language that even my stroke-addled brain can understand. I am assuming that there is a point to your drivel other than that you can use the gerund form of the f-word. And I thought that all humans belong to the same species. Maybe I’m wrong.
Matt| 5.21.10 @ 8:27AM
Why 'O' why did the people vote for this person for president? I feel ashamed and feel somehow dirty when Obama talks, like I'm somehow being violated. Obama's primary role is to protect this country, and I'm ashamed that he has no concept of it. He humiliates our strongest allies (Israel, UK, Poland) and bows literally to everyone else. The fact that 45% of the US still supports him makes me realize that maybe we get what we deserve. If the trend continues, I'll be an immigrant as well, looking for my lost homeland. What a tragedy.
Sam| 5.21.10 @ 5:23PM
Then tell Netanyahoo and the other clowns running the Israeli government not to spit in our faces when we come over there to help solve their Palestinian problem. And they're supposed to be our FRIENDS?
carnot| 5.23.10 @ 2:31PM
Jew hater.
Jeffry Pages| 5.21.10 @ 8:40AM
For Matt: I am certain that you are a good person. Yet you are ill-informed about our president. He is doing what is right for the nation by embracing NON-WHITE countries such as Mexico, India and Africa. Again, Matt, had we spent just a fraction of the money we wasted on white Europe, we could have built a friendship with Latin America, Aftica, Asia and the Middle East. Instead, we have gone to such place to KILL people, not help them. Look at how bad things are in the African-American communities in our country. Poverty, drugs, crime all because white Americans refused to see the problem and help solve them. Instead, we gave money to white Europe. Obama is changing the way we do business. Something that should have been done 70 years ago! You should be proud to have Barack Obama as you president! He is a brilliant man and will lead us to new levels in the world.
Pete| 5.21.10 @ 9:48AM
For Jeffry: I am not certain that you are a good person. You are either criminally stupid, desperately uninformed or just trying to get a rise out of folks with your inane comment. Go live in one of your "non-white" countries.
crookedwren| 5.21.10 @ 9:52AM
Jeffry,
Either you are incredibly gullible and naive about human nature and have much to learn about policies of appeasement OR you are purposely misrepresenting the truth -- as does our own President.
Appeasement and pouring $$$$$ into the coffers of your so-called "non-white countries" has been happening for decades. It reaps nothing but contempt from those who benefit from it most.
Insulting those who have been our most stalwart friends and allies will do nothing to improve our standing amongst the "non-white" countries (YOUR term, NOT MINE).
The people of those nations who have not been our staunchest friends, those who villify us and take our taxpayer moneys, do not suddenly melt when they meet with Obama. In fact, while they applaud his bashing of the US, they recognize that he is not to be trusted. That he undercuts American Exceptionalism does him little credit with them. They find such a tactic weak and pathetic -- as well they should.
You need to do some studying of both human nature and real (not revisionist) history.
And as for Obama changing the way we do business, be careful what you wish for. Read about the "freedoms" that were denied American citizens during Wilson's leftist and fascist "regime."
Poverty, drugs, and crime exist. We have poured money into these problems since before Johnson's "War on Poverty." Instead of making inroads against these, they have multiplied exponentially.
Social programs enslave and create dependencies.
Detroit has had the most liberal government -- local and state -- of any city in these United States. The people of that city once had more opportunity for people of color than anywhere else. And what happened? They rioted and destroyed that city. Detroit has never fully recovered. I can't imagine the amount of taxpayer money that that city has received over the past three or four decades. And look at it.
The government creates nothing. It cannot fund anything without individuals being free to work, make money, and pay taxes.
Enough.
Read a little bit. Wake up, before it's too late.
What is happening now is dangerous to you and to your individual liberty.
And mine.
Stephanie| 5.21.10 @ 10:38AM
We didn't give enough money to the black communites? Can you say Lyndon Johnson?
You are as someone said earlier, criminally stupid and undeducated.
Sam| 5.21.10 @ 5:29PM
Stephanie and crookedwren: STOP
You should not have responded to Jeffrey Pages. While bringing up an important problem related to the poor black communities in the U.S., like most liberals, he does not understand what is required to solve the problem.
But Steph, it is not about "giving money" to black communities. It is about giving them opportunities. We talk about equal opportunity in this country, but black communities do not often share in this opportunity.
That doesn't mean giving them money or welfare. It means recruitment- many blacks miss out on job opportunities, educational opportunities, and housing opportunities because they don't have access to information. We need to RECRUIT more vigorously from these communities so that they can COMPETE at the same level as white Americans. That is not affirmative action of quotas or reverse discrimination. It is bringing underrepresented minorities into the game so that they can start competing fairly with whites.
DefendUrRights| 5.23.10 @ 1:55AM
You shouldn't say such things for those of us who have lived with Affirmative Action laws all of our lives. So DON'T GO THERE, idiot.
carnot| 5.23.10 @ 2:40PM
Thank goodness you left out maintaining a strong family unit or leadership classes that actually believe in improving the conditions of below the poverty line Black families rather than than personal stations in life or applying pressure on a pop culture message of violence. and on and on.
but I like one theme - competition has an implied risk: failure. so long as you ACCEPT that this is and should be color blind - that's grand. otherwise, not interested. different avenue to the same goal of guaranteed/forced results.
Norman Conquest| 5.21.10 @ 10:44AM
Brilliant parody of typical left-wing "thinking" Jeffrey. Of course if it's not a parody then you should be given a saliva test immediately!
crob644| 5.21.10 @ 12:19PM
"Jeffry", Just out of curiosity, were you born in this country?
Andrew Keirns| 5.21.10 @ 12:38PM
" ... (Obama) will lead us to new levels in the world ..."
Yes: sustained unemplyment at ~10%; food stamp distribution at record levels; monitoring serial domestic terrorism (Christmas Day, Ft. Hood, Times Square) while calling it something else; bowing to foreign leaders, and dissing allies. The list could go on -- not sure these are the 'new levels' people voted for. They are new lows which we do not appreciate.
Irish22| 5.21.10 @ 4:35PM
Get video of Milton Freidman (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6813529239937418232#) -- especially his commentary on the "coalition of the do-gooders and the special interest" -- suddenly so much becomes clear!
Campy| 5.21.10 @ 2:02PM
Jeffry's just a provocateur, folks.
So only a brief moment of time waste on him:
Jeffy, if the U.S. is so evil, then explain why there is an illegal immigration problem. Where are the people pressing the borders to get out?
Kenneth E. MacAlister Jr.| 5.21.10 @ 4:57PM
Jeffry Pages:
"It is a far better thing to remain silent let everyone believe you to be a fool, than to speak up & dispel all doubt" - Abraham Lincoln.
Tim| 5.21.10 @ 8:46AM
Obama is behaving like a typical radical professor
from an Ivy School.
While USA bashing may be acceptable for a radical far left College professor it is way off the reservation for the president of the United States.
Obama's behavior is also acceptable for a radical community organizer who promotes USA bashing to get donations for their pet causes.
Likewise, bashing Arizona while high fiving with the President of Mexico is perfectly acceptable for the Sean Penn types but not the leader of the free world.
The fact that Obama will be a one term president is a given. However, if he doesn't face the media fairly soon CBS and ABC may actually push for a congressional impeachment come January 2011
NavyJack| 5.22.10 @ 2:10AM
The scene played out in our nation's Congress was a true moment of enlightenment for me, and I hope it will be so for my countrymen and my generation. I wholeheartedly agree that the Calderone speech and the standing ovation of the Democrats should be played in every venue possible between now and Kingdom Come.
I am a simple man - - I am not an "involved" conservative nor am I engaged in politics on any meaningful level. However, the parade of ignominies perpetrated by our President and his Party upon the people and the traditions of this country over the past few months are truly mind-boggling. They have turned my stomach to the point that I fear for my children's futures.
I would never have dreamed that our nation's representatives would cheer a speech by a foreign leader in our very halls in which he blatantly flouted our law and condemned an entire state. Think about that - - at least 60% of Arizonans support that law - - for that matter, at least 60% of Americans support that law. And our representatives, the people who are duty bound to honor and enforce our nation's laws on our behalf, have the audacity to lend wholehearted support to a foreigner while he condemns OUR LAWS and an entire, sovereign state.
I don't dislike Latinos. Most every Latino I know is a hard-working family man. However, if you're Latino (or Russian, or Swedish, or Kenyan, etc...) and you're here, in this country, illegally...guess what...you need to go home. Why? Because we have these little things called laws - - they're supposed to be followed - - and when you break them, you pay. You pay by going back where you came from. And if you really, really want to live here...in the good ole USA... if you want to live free and work hard and improve your family's lives (as I am sure that most of the Latinos in this country do), then have enough honor and respect for the country you admire so much to start out by following its laws and by adhering to the legal process for becoming a citizen. You see, those little things called laws and the willingness of the people (the CITIZENS) assenting to and living under those laws to submit to those laws are the very things that make this country you admire different from the country you wish to leave.
Yeah, I know the path to citizenship is complicated and redundant and frustrating and costly. I know it's hard. But ask yourself, is it worth it? If so, all I ask is, follow the law. Don't gin up some tripe about gringo injustices in the past and land theft and so on and so on. The past is past, and the reality is that if you want to enjoy the freedom and life of an American, then you must be willing to pay that price necessary to become an American citizen. There is no layaway plan on citizenship - - you are born to it, or you earn it - - and we all know (or should know) that the time may come when we owe our lives for it.
I am PROUD to be an American - - I feel it in my bones like I feel God Himself. We are different - - we are blessed - - in fact, we are exceptional. What makes us exceptional is not just a set of extraordinary beliefs but the WILL to live them out, to defend them and to enforce them on others.
My family's blood has been spent in that enforcement, literally - - we are, so to speak, committed. Am I wrong to ask for some level of commitment from the immigrant, those "souls yearning to be free?" Don't demand it, EARN it.
And to my countrymen, I say this: every generation of Americans has had to earn it all over again - - every generation has been tested - - some have failed but more have succeeded. Now is our time.
When I watched that despicable display of sycophantic, self-loathing, suicidal infatuation with throwing this country under the bus, purely for the continued enjoyment of personal political power, that was personified by the Democrats' standing ovation for Calderone, I realized something: it's my time to earn it. To my generation, the thirty and forty-somethings who have lived the high life and didn't have to struggle too hard for it, it's time to lay ourselves aside - - it's time to take it seriously - - it's time to step up. We have an evil to face, and it's not illegal aliens, not Islamist terrorists, not Red China. The evil we must root out lies within our own country - - it's the evil trifecta of career politicians, ruthless financial manipulators and power hungry technocrats. They have found a common means to their common goal, and they intend to get theirs on our backs to the detriment of OUR country. The time has come to set our comfort aside, take up the "pitchforks" and rout the bastards out.
Who's with me?
Mimi| 5.22.10 @ 10:58AM
NAVYJACK: Wonderful post! Your insight into what lies before us , and the way you laid it out, was the boldest of truth. You ask "WHO'S WITH ME?" America say's: AYE, AYE, SIR: " WE PATRIOT'S STAND WITH YOU " !!
drudge ette obama| 5.22.10 @ 3:33PM
I will bring the cole slaw.
DefendUrRights| 5.23.10 @ 1:35AM
NAVYJACK: You resonate loudly...and we must demand right now - with no delay - that our representative and senator vote "NO" on immigration reform - or else. This president has nothing to lose...and the Democrats will, apparently, stop at nothing.
Time to make believers of our elected officials. Mine is Republican - running unopposed - and yet he won't step up - be the American that I elected him to be - to STEP UP AND PUBLICLY DENOUNCE SO-CALLED "IMMIGRATION REFORM"... which we all know is amnesty and citizenship.
What about it, America? Will you do the same? It doesn't matter, at this point, whether you are Democrat or Republican. This is a NATIONAL emergency - we are under invasion and watch while our fellow citizens are oppressed, victimized, and murdered.
Tim| 5.21.10 @ 9:03AM
Do I dare say that the weakening of America and this USA bashing is being done by design.
If it were not for the fact that they could not outlaw guns, these characters would actually have been able to take over the USA via the "Hype" and "Mesiah" COUP.
The 2nd Ammendment was put there for a reason and thank God the Founding Framers for being smart enough to anticipate a future potential imposter rising up to one day con enough folks into thinking he was the real American President.
Imagine Obama and his czars in charge with no 2nd Ammendment Rights?
Its safe to say that the prison camps would be over flowing with tea partiers and any other true American Patriots.
We are dodging a bullet but only because of the wisdom of the Founding Fathers!
JmsA| 5.21.10 @ 9:27AM
Calderon just got re-elected down Mexico way. His performance was just for Mexican consumption. There's just no way that it help the O and rest of the traitorous dems. That said, Mexico is doomed, for it's president blaming the U.S. for what is obviously a problem of their own, has failed to take the first step and most crucial step in fixing a problem: OWNING UP TO IT!
Bill| 5.21.10 @ 9:46AM
Once Calderon got finished with his remarks about how oppressive the Arizona law is, President Obama should have endorsed Mexico's enlightened policy toward illegal immigration into Mexico by stating that he would approach Congress with a proposal that new U.S. immigration legislation tracking Mexico's legal language on what is to be done with illegal immigrants should be drafted and sent up to him for his signature. Let the U.S. follow Mexico's tolerance and civil rights record toward illegals!
macon ogletree| 5.21.10 @ 9:50AM
It is sad to see the nation come to this condition of self loathing in which our President refuses to defend our laws which are similar to Mexico's. We conservatives need to wake up our indifferent neighbors to what is happening. We need to send conservative publications to our liberal friends who are open to ideas. We need to articulate that
illegals pouring into our nation increase our jobless rate, provide illegal competition to minority groups seeking jobs, deplete our resources through services for which they pay no tax and reach out to union membership (not union leadership) who see their job security threatened by illegal aliens. Most Americans support our country and Arizona but we have to get the message out to effect positive change for the betterment of our nation's future!
lechevre| 5.21.10 @ 10:06AM
Obama the unich is selling out the USA every time he opens his big mouth. He is not upholding the constitution as per his oath of office, and should be impeached.
lechevre| 5.21.10 @ 10:07AM
JAN BREWER FOR PRESIDENT IN 2012
Ken (Old Texican)| 5.21.10 @ 10:13AM
Folks,
Don't you feel honored?
We have actually been graced with an Obama aide right here on American Spectator.... Heh, it might even be the teleprompter in chief.
I won't even waste my time de-bunking his carefully crafted "speeches" above.
I would rather just spend a few minutes congratulating the people and Governors of Arizona.
"I'm so proud of you folks for standing up with responsibility, I can barely stand it!"
I sincerely hope Texas get's around to taking responsible action...soon in this regard. Right now, we are busy fighting some other battles with the feds...and our turn in the "media barrel" will come in due time.
Let us,
Please remind ourselves that virtually every country south of the Rio Grande is completely "owned" by people of European descent.
In probability, the only fortunes held by non Europeans are in the hands of some "native" drug kings and gun runners.
These countries consist of a tiny chip of wood, floating on a sea of poverty and despair among their peoples, and the (European) oligarchies hold the people down with an iron fist.
Bottom line, the ONLY way to achieve "upward economic mobility" for a person of modest means in those countries is to either leave.....or become totally a "law-breaker"....if only in the sense of delving into the "black markets".
In those countries, the "black-markets" are the only "free markets".
There is only one sure exception to that rule; subject oneself to a "Patrone" similarly to the feudal era in Europe.
Finally, if I were a loving father of "mestizo" descent, I would hope I could slip out of those countries to the US, and endure the loneliness a gut tearing work long enough to build a "small capital base" to go back and delve into the "free (black) markets there.
blackwatch | 5.21.10 @ 2:01PM
Well said Ken,
The former Spanish colonies are the basket cases of the world. the stupid patrone system is medieval and they brought that to the Americas.
Mexicans are not an aboriginal people. That would be the Hopi, Aztecs, etc.
Mexico needs to come into the 21st century by modernizing its legal system and dumping the caste by skin tone system they now have. Pray for Mexico--there will be more bloodshed.
DefendUrRights| 5.23.10 @ 1:42AM
No "slipping" into the U.S. - illegals need to apply for green cards and work here legally.
Too freaking bad ... if you are born in Mexico - that's your lot in life. That's your country. I am not responsible for you just because you don't like your country. TOO FREAKING BAD.
Marco Thubeest| 5.21.10 @ 10:13AM
The plan is simple:
Flood the borders until the citizens demand/accept RFID tagging for all legal residents.
Mark o' the Beast, ya'll.
Joe B| 5.21.10 @ 10:16AM
I just don't think America can survive three more years of Obama. What a sad, dark time in our history.
Tim| 5.21.10 @ 11:19AM
Joe B:
I disagree. the USA has survived far worse.
The Civil War comes to mind.
We will survive the antics of this kenyon.
The Constitution was designed to survive a few big mistakes by US citizens.
No Worries....
Joe B| 5.21.10 @ 1:45PM
Obama is importing socialism one Mexican at a time. Mexican immigrants are truly a weapon of mass destruction that America cannot survive. The evidence can be found in our hospitals, schools, streets, parks, prisons, and freeways. We have a 1950s infrastructure groaning under the weight of 50 million people we never invited and don't need.
The Civil War was fought by two principled sides. The outcome of the Civil War simply determined whether North America would consist of one or two great countries.
DefendUrRights| 5.23.10 @ 2:03AM
So what do you do if you're Obama and see 25 million illegals in the country - and you look over your shoulder at elected officials who have turned their heads, kowtowed to militant activist groups like La Raza and even funded them, and now they are threatening violence if they don't get amnesty? Did you see the interstate that was shut down in California with an estimated 60,000 marchers? These invaders are drug cartel members, criminals ... and are taking Americans' jobs.
What I find interesting is that black Americans will stand behind Obama - even when they see illegals swarming, invading every single state in our country - and taking jobs that should be theirs. Young blacks suffer the highest unemployment rates in the country.
martin j smith| 5.21.10 @ 10:22AM
Jeffrey pages go live in Europe if you ao unhappy here in this nation--I would invite BHO to do the smae--in fact he could be a good president for the EU--if it holds together. In any event--Jeffrey pages, if you are so unhappy about our history,traditions and values--seriously why stay--you know there are at least as many of yur types who do not support your views and will resist one way or another. You know that I would say the majority of US citizens do not buy your "logic" so again--Canada awaits you. Or be a volunteer and live in Ruwanda or in Cuba or some other third world nation. Enjoy the freedom of speech of Iran or Venezuela. But if you go to Mexico, ah--you better have your papers in order buddy!!!!!!!!!!!. You know if you did the equivlent free speech that you enjoy here in some countries you would be a missing person. But that does not bother you because you are here not there. So go back to BHO get your pay and get lost.
Guy| 5.21.10 @ 10:43AM
When I opened my local newspaper this morning I expected to see a piece such as this on the editorial page, but no, there was absolutely no mention at all of this foreign pig who came here as an honored guest and then proceeded to defecate on us.
In my mind, those in media who remain silent about the blatant public trashing of our nation, out of fear of being labelled racist, carry with them a stench that is magnitudes greater than the stench of our president who, oh so obviously, hates the nation that elected him.
I agree that it is a good idea to identify everyone in congress who stood and applauded when calderon stood before them and told them how much our nation sucks. I pledge $100 to the campaign of everyone who opposes them in their next election.
Oldefarte| 5.21.10 @ 11:01AM
Great article, Andrew! Of course, other countries are estatic over Obama's apologizing and demeaning of this country, as this represents a victory for them and a defeat for us. The US has baled out Europe from devastation destruction in WWI and WWII, financially rebuilt same, and the thanks we get is non-European support in our terrorist war. For Calderon to lecture this country and Arizona is ludicrous and imbicilic, since his country Mexico is noting more than a glorified Africa [since it's economy is partially supported by the tourism dollars from Americans and from governmental loans that economically prevent his country from sinking into the financial toilet]. This moron should instead be squelching the drug induced violence and terrorism that not only affects Mexico but now Arizona and the US also. My dream/hope would be that US banks would immediately call in for payment all of these Mexico loans and that our government would [after sufficient warnings proclaimed] issued SHOOT TO KILL orders to our law inforcement authorities along our southern border!!!!!!
Stephanie| 5.21.10 @ 11:16AM
I have a friend who grew up in south Texas and he said there, in the old days, the authorities DID in fact sit in wait for the illegals to come across, get them in their sites and then pull the trigger.
DefendUrRights| 5.23.10 @ 2:05AM
I've lived in South Texas all of my life and this is ludicrous.
mike ames| 5.21.10 @ 11:01AM
If this is not sedition I do not know what is. Ann Coulter said it best - TRAITOR!! This seems grounds for impeachment.
Accoreding to the scoundrels called Pres in Mexico, "whereever there are Mexicans it is Mexico" Calderone "these folks are not illegals they are immigrants" Fox
The Presidnet of the US has an obligation to enforce the law whether he likes it or not! Someone please take this man out.
Paevo| 5.21.10 @ 11:06AM
O's choice of who to invite for state dinners is revealing in that his policies are anti-West--even though the U.S. is the apotheosis of Western civilization. (Mexico is not a member of Western civilization according to Samuel P. Huntington, but rather belongs to Latin Civilization.) He has effectively hijacked the nation and embarked on a course leading to civilizational suicide. And the multiculturalist left is paddling as furiously as possible, while utterly oblivious as to the ultimate consequences of such a course. It is disheartening to watch it all unfold, to say the least...
TURK| 5.21.10 @ 11:46AM
Jeffry is a leftover marxist professor from California who came to the defense of the Senate candidate liar discussed in RET's story yesterday. After commenting on military aviation he admitted to being a draft dodger who used his efforts more productively than in uniform. Now, he lauds our islamist pres for his embracing "non-white" countries and people. Contained therein, in all left arguments, is the standard rhetorical b.s. : don't you care about the "poor"? (a concern voiced in the bible by the lowest of characters therein-Judas) I ask: if The United States of America lies in a heap, WHERE wil the poor of the world go? Huh?
dw| 5.21.10 @ 12:11PM
It is excrutiating to see Pretender Obama pictured with American flags flying in the background. His policies have been approved by MexicoZ(corrupt beyond belief), Cuba(third world bankrupt communist dictatorship), Venzuala(see Cuba), and opposed by the majority of American citizens.
So he sides with foriegn adversaries over his own citizens and apologies to the world for our apparent" criminal" behavior on our behalf.
And on top of that the dems in congress give senor calderone a standing o. They are so obsessed with getting the mexican vote that their already courting future illegals. Those who voted these idiots in must correct themselves. This is an affirmative action nightmare. Fire them in Nov.
Real American| 5.21.10 @ 12:16PM
Enemies of Arizona (pictured above)
Mark MacInnis| 5.21.10 @ 12:25PM
I'll let alone for the moment the thesis of the article, which I agree with, that as a protector of the integrity and idea of American borders, Obama is clueless to the point of being a danger to our citizens.
What I really want to rant about is how also arrogant and vain he is about his own position....he is constantly saying "MY government" this and "MY government" thus and such.....this tool is completely oblivious to both the grammatical and constitutional facts....It is not "His" government, it is ours, ...America's. It is his ADMINISTRATION, but it is our government. Maybe if he thought about it that way, he'd have a little more humility. And maybe a frog with wings wouldn't drag its azz on the ground, too....
Patrick in AZ| 5.21.10 @ 12:29PM
Obama, though, is too naïve to understand that. While he is pursuing some Utopian vision of world harmony, Mexico, China, Russia and others are taking full advantage of his delusions.
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You give Obama too much credit by assuming he has our best interests at heart. He isn't naïve, he knows it all harms the United States - that IS the whole point; he is doing it on purpose because he hates this country - he is a MARXIST!
Purpleguy| 5.21.10 @ 12:39PM
"Let's grant for the sake of argument that Obama was right and President Bush's cowboy swagger made non-Americans dislike our country. Even if that were 100 percent true, it doesn't follow that the best way to correct that is to have a president badmouth his own country at every possible opportunity." - That's ridiculous ... if you screw up (Bush), you need to be humble and extend a hand to patch old wounds (Obama) ... and that's what you're complaining about... That could only be if you want to tear down Obama, or you believe in the Cowboy mentality, which will only you get you resistance back. What would you do if someone punches you?
Tim*| 5.21.10 @ 1:05PM
Apparently , Barack Obama Wants To Be The American Vidkun Quisling.
That's Problematic.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates .
Remember In November .
Bill A | 5.21.10 @ 1:06PM
Why does America need approval of ANY other country? Are we in high school and unable to form decisions on our own? I do not see Chavez, Putin or Ahmedinejad asking for other countries approval. So if we need no approval there is nothing to appologize for. Our naive president is only encouraging more aggresive behavior with all his apologies.
Purpleguy| 5.21.10 @ 4:29PM
We don't. "I do not see Chavez, Putin or Ahmedinejad asking for other countries approval" - right, and they are oh so well thought of, right? Besides extending friendship instead of dictates is hardly asking for approval, it's called diplomacy, you twit. "Speak softly, but carry a big stick" - Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) .. forgot about that huh?
Tim*| 5.21.10 @ 5:49PM
It's been rumored that Mr.Purplepuss speaks all sticky and carries around a big soft .
Purpleguy| 5.21.10 @ 6:36PM
Another brilliant comment by Tim the Dim.
Tim*| 5.21.10 @ 9:06PM
We laugh at you ,because somebody has to.
Purpleguy| 5.21.10 @ 11:04PM
What's really sad is that they let people like you filled with hate, anger and prejudice into the voting booth. It's nothing to laugh at because you are ruining our country...
Troll Watch| 5.22.10 @ 1:32PM
More projection. Purpleguy apparently thinks we have big majorities in the legislature and control the executive. He and his brain dead friends are the ones ruining the country. He trolls conservative websites trying to cause trouble. That demonstrates a person filled with hate, anger and prejudice. We'll see how it goes in November. Maybe he is just anticipating. Why can't we get trolls with even average intelligence?
Purpleguy| 5.23.10 @ 5:58PM
You did have the majorities and spent like drunken sailors, buried us with debt, committed us to 2 horrific wars, that you can't even win with your ineptness, allowed 1800 people to die in the Katrina disaster aftermath, alienated the world, and brought the world to the brink of Great Depression #2 (and we're not home free yet) and then you have the stones to blame it on the guy in charge for a little over a year? And, I'm projecting? You have some serious issues, sir, and must get thee to an asylum ...
I love my country and if you are over 30 you grew up in FDR/JFK and Johnson's country pretty much - New Deal/New Frontier and the Great Society with some Truman and Eisenhower thrown in... If you don't like your country now - it's because this is the legacy of Ronald Reagan and 2 Bushes, with a little Clinton thrown in you don't like - a debt-ridden borrow and spend militaristic, give illegals amnesty, my-way-or-the-highway swaggering attitude that is hard to stomach for anyone, I can understand ... Either way, you don't love America if you want to tear her down, call for rebellion against her and her leaders, and want to turn your back on America's problems because it's YOUR money they need to solve them. That's a small-minded, selfish, unpatriotic, if not treasonous attitude that needs to be purged from your mind. We're all in this together, and just like after 9/11, we need to pull together, not apart to survive and thrive.
Tim*| 5.22.10 @ 11:19PM
You're a liar ,there Sport !
You don't know me ya trash talkin' twerp.
Purpleguy| 5.23.10 @ 5:47PM
Ahh, but I know your kind ... hate-spewing, fear-mongering, clueless, shameless, greedy, homophobic-secretly-gay, militant, totalitarian Fascist, Un-American-but-hiding-it troglodytes. - have I captured you pretty well?
Tim*| 5.24.10 @ 12:49AM
Nah !
But do try again, Alynskyite Sheep Wrangler .
well| 5.23.10 @ 2:10AM
I've always thought it must be so SMALL because he is all about overcompensation...in everything.
Bill A | 5.21.10 @ 6:53PM
No need to resort to name calling or is that all that you have? I do not think highly of the aforementioned dictators. The point simply is that we Americans should not be living according to others whims and yes, Teddy was correct in his diplomacy. Stalinist types only respect how many divisions you have. In their eyes apologies indicate weakness. Since none of us enjoys fighting, it is only by our strenghth that dictators will leave us alone.
carnot| 5.23.10 @ 2:48PM
you hit all the marks!
except, as usual, results.
Ken (Old Texican)| 5.21.10 @ 1:30PM
Purpleguy,
Congraqtulations!
You have finally...finally...asked a rational question.
If I were punched, (heh, at my age,), I would kneecap the SOB with my six-gun.
...Then we could equally discuss the issue....while I kept my sights carefully aimed at his forehead.
Obviously, you are on the team of the SOB. You want to punch out all we old farts who have given you the right to write your tripe.
Being a Texan, I LIKE the cowboy mentality. ie: "hurt my children...I shoot you."
3,000 moms and dads died hard on 9-11. Their kids are now orphans. A couple of hundred more fire-fighters and cops died trying to help.
You have obviously picked sides, purpleguy. I will probably never have you in my sights.
You will NEVER expose yourself, because you are nothing more than a coward hiding.
Guy, please pray earnestly that we patriots win this battle.
Otherwise, you will be killed by your "brothers".
(dumbbunny)
Bill A | 5.21.10 @ 2:03PM
I'm with you Ken. Mess with me or mine and you gotta go. In Brooklyn the attitude is not so different from Texas. By the way, Brooklyn Rules of War : there are no rules !
Purpleguy| 5.21.10 @ 4:41PM
ie: "hurt my children...I shoot you." - of course, me too, only i'd rip your head off and stuff it up your ass. But that's on a personal level, not a national level. Why can't you people understand the difference?
"3,000 moms and dads died hard on 9-11. Their kids are now orphans. A couple of hundred more fire-fighters and cops died trying to help. " - yes, and we should have caught the bastards and strung 'em up, but your boy Bush let the ahole go that caused the whole thing, Osama Bin Laden... because he took his eye off the ball to go play in Iraq, which " was a target rich area" - Donald Rumsfeld; instead of pressing home in Afghanistan. He moved needed special forces to Iraq from Afghanistan like the idiot he was. This is well known and well documented, so don't argue about it.
Patriots? Like you are the only people that love America? I served my country too, and I ain't no spring chicken either ... but the America you grew up came from FDR/Truman/Eisenhower/Kennedy/Johnson - do you love your country or not? From Reagan on, the Government has tried to change the country, with some exceptions, away from the New Deal ... now which country do you love? If you're less than 30, it was FDR's legacy you love, not Reagan's... wonder why the under 30 crowd supported and still supports Obama? Ya ever think of that? Have a nice day!
Kenneth E. MacAlister Jr.| 5.21.10 @ 5:14PM
Purpleguy, I can ALWAYS depend on you to show up here & prove the validity of the statement, "you can't fix stupid!". Does American Spectator pay you for your services? Please call Adopt-A-Brain Purpleguy. There are alot of homeless brains out there looking for a vacant skull to inhabit & you sir are MORE than qualified! Have a nice day!
Purpleguy| 5.21.10 @ 6:35PM
Do you just write to see yourself in print? You said nothing of any use to anyone, so why bother? If you don't agree with something, debate it, otherwise you are proving your own point about yourself.
Nick| 5.21.10 @ 7:58PM
See how PurpleJackass won't respond.
He is a coward, just like I stated.
Tim*| 5.22.10 @ 11:29PM
Apparently , Purplepuss comes here to get his "Attention Fix ".
It appears , he can't get positive attention , so even negative attention is better than none.
Nick| 5.21.10 @ 5:44PM
PurpleJackass,
"I served my country too [...]."
Let me guess.
The Peace Corps, right?
You were a draft-dodging coward, like Chris Matthews, weren't you PurpleJackass?
Tim*| 5.21.10 @ 9:10PM
Yeah , Purplepuss was a Border Guard In The Mexican Army.
drudge ette obama| 5.22.10 @ 3:36PM
No, I think purpleguy served burgers-until soemone saw him taking a bath in the prep sink. He's been unemployed ever since then.
carnot| 5.23.10 @ 2:51PM
because the ocean of information they swim in serves no purpose without a knowledge base to process that information?
because they have no real world experience?
ah, who cares? Obama and the Dems own incompetence will be their undoing.
JP| 5.21.10 @ 1:36PM
Actually, Bush did no such thing. Stop with the stawmen. President Bush, Wall St, as well as Congress turned a blind eye to federal laws and allowed some 10-12 illegals to enter this nation illegally. The President as well as his brother made several visits to Mexico, hosted Mexican business and political leaders, gushed about thier love for the Hispanic culture, and came within a whisker of passing Comprehensive Immigation Reform. As a result, Bush captured over 30% of the Hispanic vote.
And no, true leaders never allow themselves to be dominated by shallow sentimentality. True national leaders represent thier nation, not one political party. And any prime minister worth his salt will use Obama's absurd humility to thier own benefit (witness China, Iran, and Russia). These nations are running circles around Obama; friend and foe alike see The Anointed One as a narcisstic fool who can easily be manipulated.
Purpleguy| 5.21.10 @ 6:33PM
Uh-huh... yeah, you're right. That's why the world's opinion of America fell in the toilet after Bush was Pres for a number of years. Yeah, you're right.
Didn't your mother ever teach you "you get more with honey than with vinegar" ? Bad boys ...
Papa Bush got almost the whole world on board with the Persian Gulf War even got Japan and Saudi Arabia to pay for the war in large part .. not so Baby Bush .. he only got our closest allies and those that would stay for pay (so called "the coalition of the willing" ). And, then they started dropping like flies after he was Pres for a while.
Face it, Baby Bush was a disaster, and Obama is a breath of fresh air, but ya all want him to fail, and try to find any excuse to blame him, because you really don't love America, you want us to fail to blame Obama for all the problems that others created. He makes mistakes, but the trajectory for America is in the correct direction now.
Eric Cartman| 5.22.10 @ 5:24PM
Purplepunk! How's the the problem at work goin'? Oh, in case y'all don't know, Purplepunk had a "little" problem with his co-workers: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/a.....1tsa1.html
Now, Punk, you say this: "That's why the world's opinion of America fell in the toilet after Bush was Pres for a number of years. Yeah, you're right."
And you and your ilk made sure that the whole world knew it was okay to slime our president, didn't ya? W was a let down in a lot of ways, but he was our let down. But you asshole liberals went abroad and talked smack about our country, didn't ya, asswipe? You assholes told the scumbags of this world it was okay to disrespect us and they were justified in attacking us, didn't ya, scumbag?
You're a pathetic turd. And you know what happens to turds, don't ya? So be careful where Soro's shits ya.
Defend| 5.23.10 @ 2:24AM
Purpleguy - Bush screwed up, there's no doubt. It's a difference in ideology. You're a liberal Progressive Party member. For those of you who don't know what that is...do your research...read DailyKos or firedoglake.
Whether you support Obama or not is irrelevant. What is best for our country is what IS relevant right now, and we can't bear the burden of giving amnesty or ANYTHING to illegals, frankly. We are completely broke - and heading toward 14 Trillion in debt...with Obama's budget sitting on desks untouched and offering a mere 1.6 trillion dollar deficit for 2011. Spending like drunken sailors, Democrats and Obama have no care for how this is repaid...our bonds are heading for junk bond status - and we are spiralling out of control.
You want to talk about real issues? Stop whining about NOTHING. Everyone knows it's how much money you have to care for your families and to prepare for your future. Obama and the Democrats (your fellow liberal Progressives) care NOTHING except for themselves, their jobs, their next elections, their corruption, their stolen goods.
So, whether Democrat or Republican...at the end of the month - it's all about your paycheck. Even you won't have a job when this all falls apart. I don't Obama - and I don't owe an illegal ANYTHING - and neither has the right to take what is mine - not without a fight.
carnot| 5.23.10 @ 2:52PM
yes..Pres O does have the world beating down the doors to help out in Afghanistan. once again, you have an unerring ability to hone in on the facts!
JmsA| 5.21.10 @ 8:47PM
Purpleturd,
"...Bush's cowboy swagger made non-Americans dislike our country." Written like truly devout One sycophant, much afflicted still by Bush Derangement Syndrome. Tell me, what exactly did Bush do to France, Germany, etc., for them not to like the U.S.? He didn't do anything other than of course interrupt their illicit technology transfer to Saddam Hussein and dislodge the Al-Qaeda supporting Taliban from power, while freeing at least 50 million Muslims at the cost of much blood and treasure to this country. What did Bush do to Mexico? Again, not a thing, and on top of it, he speaks Spanish, his brother is married to a Mexican, and he tried to grant amnesty to all of the illegal aliens from that country. Wow! That's really insulting. What exactly is it that you mean by the Cowboy swagger? Could it be sticking up for your country and your countrymen after a heinous attack by pathological Islamic radicals? Could it possibly be the locking up in Gitmo of illegal and murderous Islamic radical combatants, whom you have in the past so vehemently defended? Is that what so upset so much of the world? Funny, it didn't seen to bother many from that same world that in that same island, Cuba, there are hundreds of prisons where hundreds of peaceful political prisoners languish without so much as an afterthought by the French, Germans, Canadians, or Spanish, among others, who frequently visit the island and lounge in its sunny beaches, from which regular Cubans, save for underage prostitutes, are banished. Funny, I never read you sticking up for them. Oh, that's right, how could I forget. According to you that's a personal prejudice. Well, guess what? It perfectly underscores your hypocrisy vis-a-vis the terrorist prison in Gitmo. I'd take Bush's swagger over your constantly spewed sycophantic pablum at the behest of the One, who allows a foreign head of state openly and hypocritically criticize in the Halls of Congress--with much applaud and cheer from the democrats--the immigration laws enacted by one of the States of the Union in an attempt to thwart what amounts to no less than an foreign invasion, aided an abetted by special interests to the detriment of the citizens of this country.
I have visited many countries and studied abroad. I have lived for some time in three different countries, including a socialist/communist one, a supposedly "fascist" one, and in the U.S., where I have resided for nearly 40 years. In other words, I've been around and I've seen quite a bit, including, again, your illogical, leftist troll nonsense, again in full display. And I thank you for that, quite sincerely, for it gives a true sense of the stupidity reigning supreme in the minds of so many of our citizens. That said, I suggest, though I doubt it will help, you read your own turgid post, in the hope you'll catch on and realize what an insipid and vacuous moron you really are. 11/02/2010
John Jarrell| 5.21.10 @ 12:40PM
Mr Cline is exactly correct concerning Obama's dislike of America.
Obama is not culturally an American. Consider: He was born to a quentessential 60's Flower Child who was thoroughly indoctrinated in anti-American, progressive thought. Spent his formative years living on the economy in a third world country, envying the "swells" who worked for (evil) oil companies and had all of the perks of an expatriot working for a multi-national company. This while his mother, who was pushing "micro-loans," to the locals lived on a stipend from the Ford Foundation and whatever his Indonesian step-father made. He was then shipped to his grandparents. His grandfather was a n'er-do-well who blamed the free market for his repeated failures and put young Obama in touch the local communist labor leaders and communists from Chicago. His grandmother, that "typical" white woman, was the bread winner and was not an enthusiastic patriot herself. Besides, she worked for a (evil) bank.
By his own admission, when finally on his own, he sought out the most radical, anti-american people he could find where ever he he was. In other words his only influences have been communists, progressives, collectivists, who viewed America as the source of the world's problems. This hasn't changed. Look who he has as his "czars" and closest advisors. His objective, as he has continually said since he declared his candidacy, is to completely dismantle America and rebuild it as, essentially, the third world country where he grew up.
Elections do have consequences. Who'd have thought the consequences of the '08 election would be national suicide.
Purpleguy| 5.21.10 @ 2:53PM
"Obama is not culturally an American." - what is a "cultural American"?
Tim*| 5.21.10 @ 9:11PM
If ya gotta ask ,ya ain't.
Purpleguy| 5.23.10 @ 5:37PM
You don't know then, is that it? Just like the Tea Baggers that don't know why they are at a rally... 'cause I was told to be here... Ha! Your stupid slip is showing...
Bydand76| 5.23.10 @ 9:12PM
Same goes for all of your code pink and la raza idiots. And every single left wing moron who sits up and protests everything under the sun but yet when thieir leaders do the same thing as their opponents they say NOTHING!
F You Purple. F you and everyone like you!
Take your sanctimonious, self righteous garbage nonsense ideology and stuff it!
Next time you take a race survey ask yourself " is this culturally American?"
You ARE everything that is wrong with this country Purple.
You and the whole traitorous douchebag Democrat party.
To Hell with you! To Hell with the Democrats! and to Hell with Obama!
And I really dont care what you think!
You are lower than pond scum!
Pro Libertate!
Tim*| 5.24.10 @ 12:36AM
No Buffoon ,You Don't Know .
Aaaand , use that gay talk on your boyfriend Blewboy.
Cuffs| 5.21.10 @ 12:47PM
Impeach!
DTCOFAZ| 5.21.10 @ 12:59PM
When I saw calderon on tv last night, stood right in the heart of the US, bad mouthed about our country, and the democrats sat there, listened and applauded --- my heart bled, and teardrops soaked my sorrow soul.
There is no word to describe my disgusting, disrecpect, and resentment feeling toward the obama administration.
It is a slap in our nation's face that this administration invite the foreigner to our motherland to eat and dine on our taxpayers' money, then encourage the foreigner to humiliate our country, our state.
November 2010 and the year of 2012 seem like forever for me to cast my votes and kick these traitors out of the office.
They're not worthy for the positions that we put them in.
A| 5.21.10 @ 1:19PM
Impeach.
Tim*| 5.21.10 @ 1:25PM
Impear The Impaired One .
catholic mom| 5.21.10 @ 1:37PM
Just when you think it can't get any worse, it does. Good thing I have my faith, otherwise I would despair!
Tonyb| 5.21.10 @ 1:49PM
I can’t believe the poor quality of education from Harvard Law School, at least as it apparently applies to our President. Wednesday, Obama said the following in front of cameras and many people.
"We're examining any implications especially for civil rights because in the United States of America, no law abiding person -- be they an American citizen, illegal immigrant, or a visitor or tourist from Mexico -- should ever be subject to suspicion simply because of what they look like."
Is it just me or does a “law-abiding” “illegal immigrant” sound like an oxymoron.
The problem with the political correctness overtaking our country is that people accept this as a correct statement. Illegal immigration is not considered a crime.
Purpleguy| 5.21.10 @ 6:48PM
" Illegal immigration is not considered a crime. " - the phrasing of your statement is not applicable to what the President was saying, to be frank. If you knew your Constitution, you would know that the 14th Amendment says this ... "nor shall any State deprive any PERSON of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any PERSON within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." - It says nothing about whether you are a legal immigrant, a citizen or an extra terrestrial, but a PERSON. At the time this was passed many in the United States did not consider blacks as persons, and this was the result. It does however cover EVERY person, without distinction.
While illegal immigration is illegal, so is racial profiling and exercising police authority without probable cause (4th Amendment).
So, while you obviously don't like what you heard from the President, it is the law of our land, and he is right in what he says. Moreover, it is morally right not to single out someone for what they look like.
You live in a multi-racial, multi-cultural country, and I hope you're not saying you'd feel better if you didn't, but in any case, that's not reality.
Eric(OfConservativeMind)| 5.22.10 @ 7:43AM
The President is only right by degrees. The fact that he continues to bash AZ after they refined their law to make explicitly clear that it mirrors federal law and disallows any type of profiling based on race, etc. details not only his ignorance, but the ignorance of many individuals in his administration who parrot his words. If a State and its municipalities are not allowed to uphold a federal statute/law while adding some teeth, I must personally wonder at how dysfunctional our government truly is.
About your statement involving multiculturalism... Do you support the divergence of culture and language supported by groups like La Raza? Would you support the actions of States moving back to English-only in their documentation/forms and such? I am definitely curious as to your response.
It is to undermine our civil society that there are individuals and groups of individuals present in the U.S. and elsewhere that tell us that diversity is such a great thing that people residing in the U.S. need not assimilate and learn English. It is to mention that every nation-state that has attempted bi-lingual bi-cultural practices has indeed failed over the long term.
While Obama and others in Washington and elsewhere play the race card over and over, ad nauseum, ad infinitum, while bashing this law, they continually forget or ignore the thing that has made our nation great. It is our unity.
Without a unity among citizens of language and culture, we cannot truly be at peace. More than that, we can hardly go about our daily lives. When an individual comes to live with us and among us, they need to cast off all allegiance and ties to their former country and become Americans. This is how it was done and this is how it should be. They may retain their culture and such, and this is evident; Have you ever seen a Chinatown or Germantown, etc.? All the citizens of this country ask is that those who come here to be citizens learn English and follow our laws. It's not that difficult a concept to grasp.
SDProg| 5.22.10 @ 11:47AM
" While the new phrasing on racial profiling seems straightforward -- and while the new language will provide opponents of racial profiling a useful weapon in court -- legal experts we spoke to said that it's not "crystal clear and undeniable" that racial profiling will be impossible under the law.
Rather, the Arizona law, even in its revised version, sets up a clash of constitutional principles that could be fought over in the courts for years to come. Indeed, the law almost demands court involvement by expressly authorizing police to consider race “to the extent permitted by the United States or Arizona Constitution" -- something that is far from nailed down.
In the meantime, even if racial profiling is officially banned, the new Arizona law continues to permit non-racially based profiling, such as profiling based on clothing or behavior. Yet many legal experts we spoke to saw a hazy, and perhaps unenforceable, line between permissible profiles and illegal ones.
Kevin Johnson, dean of the law school at the University of California-Davis and a specialist on immigration law, said he worries that local police inadequately trained in immigration law could engage in profiling, either unwittingly or intentionally. "My fear is that, with the new addition to the law or not, racial profiling will result, with untrained local law enforcement officers – perhaps unconsciously – relying on racial and/or class stereotypes" when determining whether there's "reasonable suspicion" about one's immigration status.
For defendants who feel they were stopped unfairly due to racial profiling, "it may be virtually impossible to show, at least for many months if not several years" that the police made their decision illegally on racial or ethnic grounds, said Stephen Saltzburg, a law professor at George Washington University."
-From http://politifact.com/truth-o-.....-worries-/
The worry is that the law may still implicitly encourage racial profiling.
Eric(OfConservativeMind)| 5.23.10 @ 10:24AM
Indeed. A fairly well-written article, which sums things up nicely; I thank you.
Unfortunately, now I know this law will be taken to court and probably struck down by the 9th circus court of appeals. The difference of opinion noted between SCOTUS and the 9th circuit is a highly tangible one, even today; And it stands to reason that the 9th circuit would attempt to strike down the law based on any possible instance of racial profiling, whether or not any stop, arrest, etc. was based solely on race.
The question of enforcement is a big one. How can States and municipalities best go about enforcing the immigration laws of our country? How can the citizens of this country allow the concept of "sanctuary" cities to live?
If our law enforcement does not take an active role in enforcing our laws and our national sovereignty, we have a major problem. With over 15+ million illegal aliens in the U.S. consuming local, State, and federal resources, while as a demographic consuming more than they create; As a country we cannot afford to subsidize this kind of behavior.
This country needs more than what the Democratic party is promising us in the terms of "Comprehensive Immigration Reform." They deem that the deportation or passive self-deportation of illegals is a prospect so difficult that they cannot address it without speaking about a "path to citizenship." This angers me and many other Americans, including legal immigrants, because those individuals who broke the laws of our country and our sovereignty in this respect are going to be getting a red carpet ride straight into the back door with minimal cost and obligation. Any promises of making these people "pay their dues and learn English" is likely a bunch of crap. If our federal government refuses to enforce or have enforced our immigration laws in the first place, how will it ensure that those millions of illegal immigrants learn the English language and assimilate into society properly?
One look at the immigration and naturalization laws of other countries, namely Mexico, puts things in perspective. Mexico's immigration laws protect Mexican sovereignty with a draconian armor-plated mailed fist. If Calderon is being called upon to address the new law in Arizona by our President, I wonder why we don't just take Mexico's law, slap an H.R. or S. on it, and call it good.
I took that one from Mark Levin, but I think it's demonstrative of my point. If we in America are not allowed to defend the sovereignty of our country, we are finished. We cannot have a welfare state with anything resembling open borders. Immigration is important for this country in terms of getting skilled and knowledgeable individuals to do high-end jobs, but we cannot afford a constant influx of cheap, low-skilled, undereducated labor in the form of illegal immigrants.
Purpleguy| 5.23.10 @ 5:20PM
"Mexico's immigration laws protect Mexican sovereignty with a draconian armor-plated mailed fist. If Calderon is being called upon to address the new law in Arizona by our President, I wonder why we don't just take Mexico's law, slap an H.R. or S. on it, and call it good. " - Are you seriously advocating we be like Mexico? Watch out what you wish for...
Eric(OfConservativeMind)| 5.22.10 @ 7:59AM
It seems I may have contradicted myself, but to re-iterate-- The divergence of culture of which I speak is the non-adherence to a culture of Americanism and instead embracing tribalism based on race, language, etc.
Without our unity, our country falls. Racial front groups like La Raza and the NAACP hardly represent the demographics to which they claim themselves wed. I have no dislike or hated for Mexicans/Latinos, Blacks, or Asians. I dislike the fact that those two groups and others seek to balkanize American society under the auspices of race and divide this country into tribes of peoples who are constantly at each others throats.
Political Correctness and other such wayward societal infirmities only seek to limit debate on these issues, and silence those who dissent with the liberal elite. Obama is joined by a nay-saying demagogic chorus of leftist ideologues and religious nuts who preach mantras such as "social justice" and a "path to citizenship" for those who have broken our laws by jumping our borders.
May God bless the citizens of this country who have the courage to stand against the tide of authoritarian statism. It seems funny to me that a majority of citizens polled in this country support the AZ law, with all the spin coming from the White House and the MSM.
God bless you, purplenut. In Jesus' name I pray, amen.
Stephanie| 5.22.10 @ 8:43AM
But isn't this "division" if you will, between the peoples of this country, the balkanization, isn't this what obama and his ilk want? To divide and conquer? This country is so split right now it truely worries me. This president doesn't care what the majority want and he talks down to those of us who are not in agreement with him, it is astounding.
Thank you Eric for your concise and easy to understand posts. Thank you and God bless you.
Eric(OfConservativeMind)| 5.23.10 @ 10:46AM
I thank you and you are welcome.
Yes, this is what the President and his lackeys intend to do. Divisive multiculturalism is the best way for them to garner votes because if there was a united Americanism within a color-blind society they could no longer play the race card to garner votes.
Now, I might be attacked for saying that, but a "color-blind" society would be mostly possible within several generations if the leftist educators and other antagonists in our society would quit with the "diversity" speeches.
I myself realize that diversity is important, that people with different backgrounds have a profound effect on the philosophy of our society and promote thinking "outside of the box," as it were.
That notwithstanding, diversity should never be preached only for the sake of diversity. It creates division, tribalism, balkanization. "A house divided against itself cannot stand." Matthew 12:25 (King James Version)
This is the aim of the socialists in our country, to divide and conquer. If the complete citizenry of this country were to ever realize the end-point of their goals, there would be a political revolution and they would be banished from office to the extent possible for years to come. Of course, this will not happen soon...
They'll just keep on preaching their mantra. social justice, path to citizenship, diversity, multiculturalism, Utopia!
Purpleguy| 5.23.10 @ 5:24PM
"This is the aim of the socialists in our country, to divide and conquer. " - You seriously ought to read the Karl Rove tactics if you believe that anyone other than he advocated divide and conquer in politics. You want to know where division came from, look up Bill Kristol's 1990's Republican playbook.
I don't know what Socialists want, but y'all see them under every rock apparently, just like Commies were everywhere during the Cold War. I don't know what you are so afraid of if you are right and the American people are with you - what's your beef?
Defend| 5.23.10 @ 2:33AM
Watch these militant, racist, white-hating, Hispanic, Mexican, activists NOT practice multi-culturalism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajkAP_M4ZAM
The "Aztlan Movement" or open-borders racists.
Eric(OfConservativeMind)| 5.23.10 @ 10:30AM
Oh, they're practicing multiculturalism, just very divisive multiculturalism. That's an example of the "diversity" that is preached in this country.
So diverse as to have competing cultural mores, traditions, and beliefs that is antagonistic to the concept of a united Americanism.
Bydand76| 5.23.10 @ 6:21AM
Purple shut up.
Seriously, your lame ass ACLU talking points about the Amendments is ridiculous.
try talking to an immigration lawyer or a constitutional lawyer ya freakin moron.
Once they are arrested they have been afforded due process of the the there by rendering your argument about the Amendments moot and redundant.
Try to wrap your small little mind around that little FACT ok?
You either fail to see the overall point to begin with OR you simply do not want to because your a moron and have no real world experience in the matter.
Try going to AZ or NM or CO or TX or OK or UT or NV or CA and see the effect of what illegal immigration has done to these states.
I was stationed at Ft Bliss and Ft Hood for awhile. Plus I grew up in CO.
Your utopian reality with multi culturalism and blah blah blah? That really means that you dont like white people. Admit it!
Pro Libertate!
Purpleguy| 5.23.10 @ 5:35PM
Interesting how you judge me, and since you don't know the color of MY skin, you assume I am not white, if I'm not with you ... you are a racist pig ... Whatever you are complaining about for the border states has existed in the large East and Midwest cities for decades. New York, Chicago, Detroit, Atlanta, Miami, and yet, none of those states have draconian measures to catch and prosecute criminals. What's the difference? You know so much - tell me ...
Your comment about ACLU and Amendments or whatever you're raving about was quite amusing ... and, yes I have listened to lawyers on both sides of the argument. The big sticking point is the racial profiling - explicited called out as not supported in SB1070 ... not legal in otherwords. But - the problem is according to whom? Do you seriously think a police officer is going to say, "well, yes, he broke the law (for whatever reason they should be prosecuted for that, and if proven, punished) , and although he is brown-skinned and has an accent - but that had nothing to do with my suspicion he was an illegal, so I asked for his papers. " How stupid can you be?
Do you not know what the blacks were subjected to during the Jim Crow laws in the South? If you did, you would understand what the issue is. Have you read the AZ bill? It doesn't stop crime anymore than any other Federal or AZ law did beforehand. What does the law say differently? Go read and learn something kiddo. Otherwise shut up and go away. Your opinion, while you are free to express it, doesn't hold water.
JimE| 5.23.10 @ 10:51PM
Purpletard, enough of your leftist strawman BS. Yes, let's adopt the same immigration laws mexico has. Go back to KOS and spout your homosexual worship of obama.
Tim*| 5.24.10 @ 1:08AM
We thought You Were Purple.
no to obama| 5.21.10 @ 1:50PM
The more I read on this topic today and watch again the mexican taco berate our country, the more I am of the mind to think that some political hack at the the order of obama, wrote that disrespectful speech for the man to read. Why would he go on to CNN and say the opposite? Can somebody enlighten me? Purpleguy, I'm sure has the answer :-)
Jim O'Brien| 5.21.10 @ 2:06PM
One would think Calderon would be embarrassed that millions of Mexicans find conditions in Mexico so bad that they are willing to become criminals to escape. And it isn't just Mexicans coming across the border. There are also terrorists infiltrating the U.S. via Mexico, while Obama, Biden, Napolitano, Holder, Mrs. Clinton, and 2/3 of the congress do nothing about it. I guess they are too busy applauding Calderon, and preparing their excuses for the next 9/11. When that happens, they deserve life in prison for failing to preserve, protect and defend this nation.
dw| 5.21.10 @ 2:09PM
obama is the submissive dog cowering in the corner for fear of the dominate dog. that is his foriegn policy strategy.
dw | 5.21.10 @ 2:16PM
the monies sent back to mexico from their fleeing "migrants" represents the 2nd or 3rd highest revenue producer the country has. It is big bussiness for them and a good source of corruption to boot.
Defend| 5.23.10 @ 2:42AM
No one has discussed the huge drug cartel problems in Mexico. Mexico has not handled its illegal immigration problem. It ignores them, too, because you can find Central American drug cartels operating out of the U.S. For example, in Grand Prairie, TX, the DEA has a full-time job simply investigating daily murders and drug infestation just to deal with the Central Americans. Calderon doesn't have a handle on the problem, but there would be a certain amount of violence when the drug cartels encounter each other. In West Texas, citizens are reporting machine guns being fired within several hundred f eet of their homes - in the El Paso area...cartels are now shooting at each other on the good ol' U.S.A. My son lives in Dimmit County, TX, and drug cartels have conditioned American citizens to run from the drug drops that they make onto these same citizens' property.
Mexicans are not forced to leave Mexico. They have been educated by family and friends over decades to come here, and unless we have bite in our laws that prevent employers from hiring them - make it a felony with $5K fine - THIS WILL NOT STOP. Only when the jobs end, will they begin self-deportation. When our government says that it cannot deport - that is a lie. We must set a precedent and stand up to the annihilation that amnesty would bring. If we don't have a border...then I want to drive to CanCun. Calderon and Obama both lied...but Calderon doesn't speaka too goot da English.
Pat| 5.21.10 @ 2:42PM
Mexico is such a terrible place to live millions are forced to flee to the United States and Canada - or so we're told. But Mexico's unemployment rate is 4.85% compared to our 9.6% and in some areas, such as Detroit, over 30%.
The website www.internationalliving.com reports that Mexico's health care system is "good" to "excellent" with health care being very affordable - only 3% being provided by private health insurance. Some California based health insurers require policy holders to obtain certain forms of health care in Mexico where costs can be 40% less than the United States.
So, why do Mexicans pay thousands of dollars to be guided across our borders into the promised land - and where do such drastically poor people find these exorbitant "coyote fees" in the first place? Yet, Mexicans do the jobs Americans won't do - or so we're told.
In California, these illegals are called "undocumented Democrats" which may be why we're being sold a steady diet of "those poor Mexicans" - millions of potential Democratic Party voters waiting in the wings once an amnesty deal can be pushed through Congress. Skipping the emotional rhetoric of the "poor, but honest illegal" and examining the facts isn't much fun, but it can be strangely enlightening.
darcy| 5.24.10 @ 2:45AM
Mexico's unemployment rate is 4.5%? Really?
Let's tick off every Mexican illegal alien as his toes cross into the U.S. and add his number to that unemployment rate, shall we? The 4.5% rate is utterly meaningless; of course it's low -- the Mexican government sends its unemployed to the US -- so they don't get counted! Whatever happened to the teaching of critical thinking in this country?
It went out the door when Carter created the Dept. of Education.
maverick muse| 5.21.10 @ 3:32PM
"Speaking in Strasbourg in April of last year, Obama said to the people of Europe, "Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive."
celebrating Europe's dynamic union and seeking to partner with them to meet common challenges
NATO ring a bell? Who provided the basis for NATO to even exist, let alone perpetually providing the basis to endure since 1945?
Dummkopf Obama, Der Schmutztitel Weltkaiser
maverick muse| 5.21.10 @ 3:52PM
"But Mexico's unemployment rate is 4.85% compared to our 9.6%"...or so we're told on either count.
Were the Mexican unemployment rate @ 4.85% I would wager a bet that of all those 95% supposedly employed Mexican workforce, only 4.85% earn what American socialists reference as a "living wage" because the poverty in Mexico is horrendous. Go see if you don't believe. I've seen it there. Their governing officials have always held that the people do not "deserve" better, and even if they did "deserve" more, the ruling class of feudal aristocrats aren't interested in the peon's quality of life. Look into their internal warfare obliterating the "native tribes" of rural mountain communities, the old guard of socialist genocide of the backward upstarts.
One needn't focus on their indigenous populations to find the Mexican government's callous disregard for the human lives of their citizenry.
Dual citizen five generation American-Mexicans living in Chihuahua are routinely kidnapped from their homes and murdered. The Mexican authorities refuse to send a police officer (armed protection) to protect these communities. The government's advice? Lock your doors. That hardly helps when your doors are beaten down and the husbands and fathers of law abiding families are dragged out and mutilated for attempting through free speech to teach and protect their children from the dangers and influence from the drug trade. And respectful law abiding Mexican citizens are not permitted to protect either life or property with firearms. The Mexican government sends their condolences at funerals, but no protection from the drug lords who invade respectable communities. And though these dual citizens hold American citizenship, the US government fails to acknowledge their murders and demand redress from the Mexican government. At least the Houston Chronicle has reported once on the murders of American-Mexican citizens whose families have lived legally in Mexico for five, six generations.
Defend| 5.23.10 @ 2:49AM
They are a third world country.
Why should I suffer so that a Mexican citizen can usurp the benefits of my country?
The violence is MEXICO's problem and Mexican citizens' problem...it is part of THEIR history -not mine. 14 Trillion and counting...
If illegals gain citizenship - then they will be eligible for the "health care" plan...the cost of which is unsustainable per Obama's head dog.
JJ| 5.21.10 @ 3:58PM
Obama welcomed Mexicans. More will come.
maverick muse| 5.21.10 @ 4:05PM
Mexico's health care system is "good" to "excellent" with health care being very affordable --Pat
You really must go visit Mexico before spreading fanciful propaganda.
I knew personally wealthy Mexican foreign exchange Univ. Michigan dental school students who spent their summers in Mexico City dental clinics giving free care without pay because most of the Mexican population had no financial access to professional dental care. These charity clinics hosting student dental care could be what you reference as Mexico government's socialized "good" health care. The Mexican government didn't even sponsor the free clinics run by Christian charities.
I have read of the good health care available to Americans in Mexico provided by American practice physicians who choose to work there, whether or not charity is in mind, for the low insurance premiums because in Mexico you can't sue medical practitioners for malpractice. I know where you'd go with that, claiming no need to sue for malpractice in Mexico because medical practitioners in Mexico never make mistakes. blah
Pat| 5.21.10 @ 4:53PM
Amusingly enough, I read your comments and thought to myself "gee, brainwashing really does work". So, everyone in Mexico is starving, you've been there which makes you an unimpeachable witness and ultimate source of knowledge - or so you say.
Have you also been to Detroit, Cleveland or Chicago's South Side, notice any resemblence to inner city Mazatlan? Amazingly, there are also rich and poor areas in America - as a social crusader don't you want to balance the scales, spread the wealth here in the States first? Or, are you arguing we must import people from other countries to participate in this "spread the wealth" doctrine - wonder what native born Americans in Detroit would say to your scheme.
Have you considered the fact China and America don't share a common border - but also imagined the result if we did? Would we be hearing this same form of self-rightous indignation if San Diego was only a few miles from Tianjin? Oh, those poor illegal Chinese, coming here to do work Americans won't, right? And how within the irrational calculus of social activism is the disparity in numbers of illegal immigrants from Mexico vs. illegals from China measured in terms of fairness - is it fair to the Chinese we share a border with Mexico and not with them?
The politicians have a selfish but understanable motive for wanting illegals to be legal voters - with them it's entirely about self-interest. But in your case, I assume you're currently living in Mexico, helping the poor, sacrificing your chance at personal wealth to rescue them. Otherwise, you'd be just a common variety parasite, giving away the wealth of other Americans to actualize your vision of social justice. And I can undersatand you don't believe in statistics compiled by neutral sources and published monthly, you're one of a small number of Americans who've been to Mexico and you know better.
Ken (Old Texican)| 5.21.10 @ 5:28PM
Pat,
That was one of the stupidest posts I have ever read on Am Spec. Congratulations on the dunce hat prize.
I spent a third of my adult life working in the third world (including Mexico).
Go and see for yourself...or be laughed off this conversation.
Ken (Old Texican)| 5.21.10 @ 10:13AM
Folks,
Don't you feel honored?
We have actually been graced with an Obama aide right here on American Spectator.... Heh, it might even be the teleprompter in chief.
I won't even waste my time de-bunking his carefully crafted "speeches" above.
I would rather just spend a few minutes congratulating the people and Governors of Arizona.
"I'm so proud of you folks for standing up with responsibility, I can barely stand it!"
I sincerely hope Texas get's around to taking responsible action...soon in this regard. Right now, we are busy fighting some other battles with the feds...and our turn in the "media barrel" will come in due time.
Let us,
Please remind ourselves that virtually every country south of the Rio Grande is completely "owned" by people of European descent.
In probability, the only fortunes held by non Europeans are in the hands of some "native" drug kings and gun runners.
These countries consist of a tiny chip of wood, floating on a sea of poverty and despair among their peoples, and the (European) oligarchies hold the people down with an iron fist.
Bottom line, the ONLY way to achieve "upward economic mobility" for a person of modest means in those countries is to either leave.....or become totally a "law-breaker"....if only in the sense of delving into the "black markets".
In those countries, the "black-markets" are the only "free markets".
There is only one sure exception to that rule; subject oneself to a "Patrone" similarly to the feudal era in Europe.
Finally, if I were a loving father of "mestizo" descent, I would hope I could slip out of those countries to the US, and endure the loneliness a gut tearing work long enough to build a "small capital base" to go back and delve into the "free (black) markets there.
Pat| 5.21.10 @ 6:28PM
Old Whatever:
So, you're back with more of your witless sanctimony - try researching Mexico's economic conditions instead of endlessly pontificating on your personal experiences. The rest of us haven't told you about it, but there are statistics showing Mexico's unemployment rate, it is 4.85% now, it topped 5% a few months ago, it dropped below 4% in 2007 - if you can read a graph, google will tell you all about it.
Of course there are poor people in Mexico you dunce, there are poor people in the United States as well. So that means we need more of them from Mexico? The problem with a population topping 300 million citizens is that a goodly portion of them are gullible and easy to manipulation based on their mental laziness - take the hint.
SDProg| 5.22.10 @ 12:11PM
Pat, the average daily wage in Mexico is $7 wheras illegal immigrants take in an average daily wage of $70, so there's a big difference between the level of wealth in the US and the level of wealth in Mexico. Yes, the unemployment rate is low, but the underemployment rate is 26%. About 20% of the population lives in poverty and Mexico has a GDP per capita of $13,500 whereas the US has a per capita income of $46,400.
Defend| 5.23.10 @ 2:56AM
Whatever...American jobs are American jobs...NOTHING in this country belongs to an illegal, nor do they have the right to break our laws and trespass, nor do they have the right to make demands for citizenship - or anything else.
SDProg| 5.23.10 @ 11:32PM
I don't see many illegal immigrants making public demands for citizenship as they tend to keep a low profile.
"Study after study has shown that immigrants grow the economy, expanding demand for goods and services that the foreign-born workers and their families consume, and thereby creating jobs. There is even broad agreement among economists that while immigrants may push down wages for some, the overall effect is to increase average wages for American-born workers."
-http://factcheck.org/2010/05/does-immigration-cost-jobs/
Pat| 5.23.10 @ 12:15PM
SDprog: Yes, there is a mathematical disparity within average wages between our two countries. And, did you realize your argument boils down to claiming plain old fashioned greed drives illegals to ignore our borders and invite themselves into our country – that and our inability to stop them. In their case, it’s sheer greed motivating their crime, but you’re also a slave to your emotions and you’ve decided to make your fellow citizens obedient to those emotions as well. Other than your emotional fervor, what rational immigration policies are you advocating?
The citizens of Bangladesh are poorer than Mexicans on average, are you then advocating some form of equalization policy in recognition of wage disparity? Some specified number of Mexicans allowed to come here, the same number from Bangladesh allowed into Mexico City? If your policy and direction for this country is purely subjective and is essentially: “I feel bad for Mexicans, so you have to feel bad for them too”, then with some honest reflection you may come to understand why many Americans resent having to fund your compassion with their wealth.
What others see is an American, such as yourself, who wants to reward the illegals’ greed without realizing any consequences for casually giving away our children’s legacy. Admirable compassion on your part, but paid for by others. Bill and Melinda Gates will donate hundreds of millions to those in need, Gates earned the money, he has the right to indulge his emotions and select those who will benefit from his kindness. Warren Buffet, upon his death, will leave the majority of his billions to the Gate’s Foundation, he earned the money, he has that right. But what about those Americans who haven’t earned the wealth they so easily propose to give away - folks like yourself, Maverick Muse and Old Whatever – if you wish to weep for Mexico, then bravo to you – but shouldn’t you first earn the wealth you wish to give away?
SDProg| 5.24.10 @ 5:48PM
First of all, it seems like you were attempting to downplay the level of impoverishment in Mexico as compared to that of the US. The numbers I provided were meant to provide some much needed perspective. No, I'm asking you to understand why illegal immigrants want to come here. They make $70 a day in the US doing the same work they would do in Mexico for $7 a day. As a result, much of the money illegal immigrants make in the Unites States goes back to Mexico in the form of remittances to help their families. That situation you outline above is neither practical nor desirable. The United States and the international community need to aid in crafting effective development policies.
Marc Jeric| 5.21.10 @ 6:39PM
Abu Hussein al-Nairobi, our Community Organizer-in-Chief, is bent to communizing America. As for illegal aliens from Mexico, all 15 millions of them:
1) Mexico population consists of 50% Indians (Olmecas, Aztecas, Toltecas, Mayas, etc.), 45% mestizos (mixed Indian and Spanish, and 5% white Spaniards.
2) Untill their revolution in 1917 all power was in the hands of Spanish whites; after 1917 the whites were forced to share the power with the mestizos. This is still their situation now - no Indians anywhere in any kind of power: no police, no government posts, no "free" enterprise posts.
3) Untill the 1960's the Indians were forced to live in "ejidos", copied from the Soviet kolkhozes. Common land, no private property, everything shared, 4 years of basic education where the Indian children were taught rudimentary Spanish.
4) 95% of illegal aliens are Mexican Indians and 5% are mestizos. Mestizos make up a large majority of criminals - drug runners, coyotes, crime gangs, prostitution rings.
5) Corruption in Mexico is overwhelmingly present in all aspects of life. I lived and worked 2 years in Mexico - and I mean it litterally: all corruption, all the time, everywhere. And a very dangerous place everywhere, except in a few reservations for the rich Mexicans and foreign tourists.
Defend| 5.23.10 @ 3:11AM
Good stats! The problem is that they've moved their entire culture...as ethnic groups with all of the social, drug, and militant activism - here. They just want U.S. citizens to give them the life that they have been promised. I promised nothing and never will.
That is THEIR history, their country.
attorney | 5.21.10 @ 9:31PM
Shame on you Obama! Allowing the president of Mexico to question the laws of our country, or states. Mexico is falling on their faces worse than ever. TJ is a ghost town, tourisms down. Take a quick look at Mexico's immigration laws real quick. The United States needs to adopt those exact same laws, and enforce them.
JJ| 5.21.10 @ 10:11PM
Obama thinks its wrong to interfere in the business of other countries. He would not back the Iranians who wanted freedom. But he stands there and lets the President of Mexico rip Arizona.
Then the Chief of Intelligence quits. If this had happened in the Bush year the media would have exploded with reports of a crisis in the Bush team and all sorts of stories about how the Intelligence team was in CHAOS. But not with Obama; they give him a free pass.
Same with Hillary. NOTHING. SHE HAD DONE NOTHING. ZERO. ZIP. She goes around the world warning of sanctions. Tougher sanctions. The world must take notice. This is an international consensus.
bla bla bla.
Meanwhile, the world is helping Iran build the bomb.
davelnaf| 5.21.10 @ 10:21PM
Obama’s career as the worst president in US history is being cemented with each passing day and yet, sadly, there remains more of the same in his DNA to do to this country. But we will survive him just as the country survived the worst catastrophe ever to befall it (the Civil War) and emerged with a “new birth of freedom.”
Despite the damage he has already caused and will cause to this country before his career comes to an end in 2013 Barak Hussein Obama might well end up doing more good than he can possibly imagine, and certainly a lot more than he ever intended.
Mimi| 5.22.10 @ 11:32AM
DAVELNAF : The " O 'S " damage to this country has brought out a re-birth of Patriotism to an extent that has the LIBERAL/LEFT in total chaos and their politically-correct , NAZI-LIKE agenda is in rapid decline. They are stunned by the fist-in- your- face courage , shown by the FREEDOM/LIBERTY lover's. WE are stronger than ever.....the fool in the Whitehouse can't do anything right! What-ever he tries fails and it just does'nt stick. It's like the the man up-stairs is helping us out by throwing molassis in his Pot!
John II| 5.21.10 @ 10:57PM
I don't think "naive" is the appropriate term to attach to Professor Obama's posture. He hates America. I have worked for more than 40 years among people like Professor Obama--people who hate America. I know the type. Stupid, smug, degenerate, ignorant, neurotic, narcissistic: such adjectives work fine to describe the Obamanation. But "naive" doesn't work. They know exactly what they are doing within the parameters of their stupidity, smugness, degeneracy, ignorance, neurosis, and narcissism. They already know their days are numbered, and they're going to do as much damage to this country as they can before we throw the bastards out. End of argument.
martin j smith| 5.22.10 @ 8:32AM
Here is what we have a " so called Democrat Party "that wants to destroy this country. A group of extremely wealth foreigners and Americans financing our downfall, a group of RINOS in on the fix. That is what we are up against ( and lets not forget the MSM more powerful than many realize ). There is a need for leadership in the opposition camp ( that the side that opposes our destruction) There are some individuals that have promise like Chris Christie in NJ and Brewer in Arizona. But there is a need for more with more guts. What should have happened when Calderon spoke besmirching our nation is one of two things: Being called a liar outright and or/Republicans leaving the hall while the Democrats applauded. It might not sound "nice" but we no longer live in a "nice world". People need to be real.
Finally on trolls: really some you are foolish to even trying to "argue with them". It is a disruptive an not worth the effort. You are not talking to"regular people" These are most like ly paid political hacks and as their leader Obama will; say anything no matter true or untrue. Time to smell the smelling salts.
drudge ette obama| 5.22.10 @ 8:34AM
Did anyone see that idiot Daisy Fuentes support the Mexican president Calderon's statements about the Arizona law? She agreed with the premise that it was a discriminatory law.. It was on Fox and Friends on Friday. Fuentes pushes a tacky clothing line at Kohls. Her stuff is always on the 80% off racks, which bodes well for American women's tastes.
JoshINHB| 5.22.10 @ 10:08AM
"Will Obama ever defend America and her borders?"
NO
JoshINHB| 5.22.10 @ 10:16AM
" his country's immigration policies are nearly identical to those in the Arizona law. "
No they are not.
Mexico's immigration laws are much harsher.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/wol.....tion-laws/
Yosemeti Sam| 5.22.10 @ 3:58PM
" ... This week, in the discussion over the Arizona law, Obama took Mexico's side...."
In the emulative words of BHOs' religious mentor, a certain Mr. Wright - Mr. BHO is riding Arizona dirty.
What a skunk!
daveej| 5.22.10 @ 4:51PM
I don't give a damn what Colderon thinks. And I don't give a damn what oduma thinks. He has proven himself to be anti-American, anti-police, and anti-white people. We can only hang on until we can get some of these dangerous liberal jerks out of office!
FeralCat| 5.22.10 @ 7:49PM
People hardly ever have anything nice to say about Neville Chamberlain, but at least he never brought Adolf Hitler to Buckingham Palace to damn England or Scotland or Wales.
All this siding with foreigners illegally in the U.S.A (and their serf master employers and campaign contributors) against Arizonians by Obama, and his lackeys, and by proxy against most Americans, as according to polls most Americans support Arizona, will, if anything, only fuel resentment of illegals and encourage illegals to commit violence if they don’t get their way.
If Obama does not realize this then he is a moron. If he does realize this then he is a psychopath.
It is hard to believe that Barack Hussein Obama is that much of a moron so the presumptive diagnosis must be that he is a psychopath. More specifically his pathology is that of a pyromaniac.
Obama is a President who will live in infamy. He is at war with his own country. Siding with a foreign nation, Mexico, and it’s millions of invading nationals, against his own nation which he swore an oath to.
FeralCat| 5.22.10 @ 7:50PM
Dear Senor Calderon,
Take your worthless ass back to the craphole you are el Presidente of that is so bad that 25% of your nationals have fled it and when you fix it up so that more Americans are going into Mexico illegally than there are Mexicans going into America illegally then we can talk.
Best wishes for your recovery.
FeralCat| 5.22.10 @ 7:51PM
Emperor Obama believes in hanging first, reading evidence later, if ever. In other words, a lynching He has a very persistent habit of this. He has done it with Arizonians and he did it with the cop and he did it with the Hondurans, for just a few examples. He would have made a good KKK Grand Wizard as he shares their "Verdict First, Evidence later, if at all" mentality so very well.
ROBERT | 5.22.10 @ 9:42PM
A VAST CONFEDERACY OF FOOLS?
In a spectacle rife with shame and hypocrisy, Mexico’s President Calderon, stood before an American Congress and condemned the state of Arizona, its citizens and the United States for the exercise of legitimate sovereignty. He accused American citizens, none too subtly, that in the adoption and liberalization of a federal law requiring that foreign nationals provide proof of citizenship they had engaged in a racist act.
The President, in symbolic and explicit approval, stood beside President Calderon, as he condemned a sovereign Arizona, its people and the United States. The Democrats in lock step stood as one and gave the President of a foreign power a standing ovation for his pillory of Americans.
President O’Bama, as he engaged in his now too recognizable pretense of sanctimonious, moral superiority nevertheless accepts uncritically the Mexican government’s draconian repudiation of immigrants to Mexico. As he stood beside President Calderon, President O’Bama knew that Mexico’s treatment of immigrants entering Mexico is a moral outrage.
The immigration laws of the Republic of Mexico provide for incarceration and deportation without trial, interpreters, lawyers, due process, etc. for anyone illegally in Mexico. No illegal immigrant in Mexico may receive government assistance of any kind and their children may not attend Mexican schools. In fact, the laws of Mexico allow the army and all law enforcement agencies to enforce their draconian immigration laws, including the authority to demand "papers" from anyone who looks like a non-Mexican. Emphasis added. Mexico forbids legal non-citizen residents from holding office or voting in Mexican elections. A voter I.D. with picture and thumbprint must be produced before any Mexican citizen can vote. No non-Mexican can become a Mexican citizen.
Melanie Philips author of The World Turned Upside Down, in a May 20, 2010 interview with National Review On line, identified a psychosis well entrenched in the thought processes of the Orwellian Renegade Liberal intelligentsia.
What I have found so striking is that, in this supposed age of reason, there is such an implacable refusal, over a wide and disparate range of issues, to acknowledge the authority of factual evidence over opinion, or distinguish truth from propaganda and lies, or differentiate between justice and injustice, victim and victimizer. More than that, this phenomenon is confined to the supposed custodians of reason, the intelligentsia; and some of the most prominent of these often-militant “rationalists” propound assertions that are demonstrably irrational.
Even more striking is that this repudiation of reason is associated with the most fashionable and progressive causes—anti-imperialism, anti-Americanism, anti-Zionism, environmentalism, moral and cultural relativism, multiculturalism, scientism. Yet they promote not just irrationality but a return to primitivism, pre-modern levels of social disorder, and the persecution of dissenters.
The Renegade Liberal fits well Melanie Philips’ definition of irrationality. For nearly two decades those in control of the federal government have stood arrogantly in breach of their constitutional duty to maintain American borders and in the breach have betrayed the United States and its citizens. In fact, the Arizona law excises from the provisions of a 1907 federal law anything to suggest that the state of Arizona would engage in the profiling of Mexicans. A police officer may inquire into the citizenship of a person only incident to a lawful stop. He may not casually cross-examine people who appear to be Mexicans.
WSBTV.COM, in two video news presentations investigating illegal entry from the Mexican Border reported that in addition to the illegal entry of Mexican Nationals, the Border Control records also reflect the entry of hundreds of OTM (Other than Mexican) illegal entries from such state supporters of terrorism as Sudan, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia and Pakistan, countries that train and harbor terrorists willing to immolate themselves in the slaughter of Americans—provided only they be provided immediately a land of milk, honey and no less than thirty virgins.
The OTMs remain in South America long enough to learn Spanish and thereby merge flawlessly into the flow of Hispanic illegal aliens. For a price, Mexican drug cartels aid the entry of potential terrorists’ into the United States. In their condemnation of Arizona Americans President O’Bama and Calderon ignore and suppress these facts.
That this Administration would permit a border to remain so porous as to permit the illegal entry of potential terrorists is an outrage to the oath its politicians swore to protect America and its Constitution. That Democrats would stand and cheer efforts to abnegate Arizona’s struggle for self-preservation reveals in real time the irrationality Melanie Philips so well describes. We may wonder if those responsible for the imposition of this gratuitous danger upon all Americans have forgotten the tragedy of 9/11. As a result, Arizona prisons contain a percentage of Hispanic criminals far larger then their proportional population in the state; and Arizona citizens are condemned to live under the threat of a kidnapping rate second only to a Mexico City engaged and at war with brutal and murderous drug cartels.
Congressman Tim Maclintock in an address to Congress published a refreshing American truth.
Unlike Mexico’s immigration law -- which is brutally exclusionary -- the purpose of America’s law is not to keep people out. It is to assure that as people come to the United States, they do so with the intention of becoming Americans and of raising their children as Americans. Unlike Mexico, our nation embraces immigration and what makes that possible is assimilation. A century ago President Teddy Roosevelt put it this way. He said:
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language ... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
In the Czech Republic the newspaper Prager Zeitung, on April 28, 2010, harshly criticized those who voted President O’Bama into office. Its thesis: President O’Bama is not the cause; he is the consequence of the irrational mentality that prompted a majority of voters to deliver him to the Presidency.
The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president.
The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.
Finally, what prophecy does this spectacle foretell? Americans watched an event unprecedented in American History. An American President, standing by the side of the President of a foreign and antagonistic power, joined with him in the condemnation of a struggling Arizona. A Mexican President for whom the maiming or destruction of an America state is of little consequence accused Americans of racism. American Democrats intellectually florid and breathless, jumped to their feet, burst forth in resounding cheers, and clapped their hands in a standing ovation to a Mexican president come, without warrant, to castigate Americans.
What is the prophecy? The late Arnold J. Toynbee, author of the monumental 12-volume tour de force, A Study of History “…put forward a philosophy of history, based on an analysis of the development and decline of no less than 26 civilizations. He wrote that all civilizations, rise, decline and die. A historical autopsy, however, confirms they were not murdered. No, not at all. They died by their own hand. They committed suicide.
Eric(OfConservativeMind)| 5.23.10 @ 11:02AM
Outstanding, a scathing reply to the "intelligencia" that claim to promote rationality and critical thinking.
Campy| 5.23.10 @ 9:02AM
Outstanding post, sir.
Rober | 5.23.10 @ 1:12PM
And than you Eric and Campy. You are great Americans, and therein lies our hope. Robert
Cincinnatius| 5.23.10 @ 10:20AM
So how much longer will the people of America tolerate this "ship of fools" in the White House? When will people of good sense and moral conscience say enough and take positive action? The clock of consequence is moving steadily closer to the hour of no return. Awaken America and take notice of your demise. The enemy is at the gate.
Jeffry Pages| 5.23.10 @ 10:30AM
I am saddened at how violent most of the writers to this blog are. Ever heard of "Give Peace a Chance?" Ever heard of "negotiating" our differences? I am also amazed at how out of touch most readers are, as I read the diatribes and can imagine the spittle flying. If you would work with our president, instead of this rightist rhetoric that gets nowhere, we might achieve great things in our country. Now I know that the long knives will soon attack my posting, but as Bill Clinton said, "No angry words, ever fed a hungry child."
Eric(OfConservativeMind)| 5.23.10 @ 11:23AM
No angry words ever fed a hungry child, indeed. But that has little relevance here whatsoever. In this arena of ideas, what say you? You tell us that compromise is a good thing, a great thing, that if we can only learn to compromise we will have great things.
Too bad. Conservatism cannot compromise with Statism without losing ground. Obama is a statist, and therefore we cannot compromise with him without giving up some of our liberty, our freedom. He has no intention of returning this U.S. government to its constitutionally mandated duties, because that would deprive him and the other statists in government of their power.
Centralization of government means consolidation of power and authority, and over the last century our government has become remarkably more centralized. To ignore that fact is to deny reality.
Take a close look at our Constitution, read the Federalist papers, study some American history. The Founders of this country were not perfect men, but they were a damn sight more intelligent than most of the politicos and intelligencia that we have today. Go learn of God, of Christ, and how God's law was incorporated into our founding.
Then look at America today. We are far stretched beyond what any of our founding fathers imagined. Divisive multiculturalism, socialism, rampant atheism.
In the last case, it is fine, but those atheists who refuse to understand the premise that humans have unalienable rights granted to us by our Creator and that no government under God has the authority to take those rights from man have no basis for telling me how to live or how our government should work. Our first principles, our founding principles, are the ones on which our government should be based.
That you side with Obama and Bill Clinton, et al, shows that you do not agree.
Eric(OfConservativeMind)| 5.23.10 @ 11:30AM
To note, I handled you with kid gloves. None of that spittle-slobbering diatribe against humanity stuff you were talking about.
My long knives, lubricated for your pleasure.
Robert | 5.23.10 @ 1:32PM
DEAR JEFFRY,
No long knives at all; In fact, I believe it is good will that motivates your statement. However, I must respectfully disagree with the theory underlying your approach.
The term, "Give peac a chance" arose out of the Vietnam war; and in fact, in order to "give peace a chance" we negoiated a peace treaty with the Viet Cong (Cong is the Vietnamese word for communist). When the Viet Cong determined through a democratic moment head by now Vice President Biden, which resulted in the cutting off of all funds to South Vietnam, truly an infamy, the communists repudiated the treaty, invaded South Vietnam, and slaughtered or "reeducated (same thing) thosuands of South Vietmease. Several hundred "Boat People" created by giving peace a chance preferred their fate on the open seas to the Viet Cong Utopia. Hundreds of thousands died.
Because we gave peace a chance, the communist Kymer Rouge tortured to death or simply executed 2 1/2 million Cambodians, about one in five of their population.
The term "Give peace a chance" is a euphemism empty of meaning other than as a synonyn for pacificism. We must,therefore, not forget that Neville Chamberlain who at Munich made every effort to give "peace a chance" and whose efforts caused the Second World War.
Winston Churchill, when asked by Roosevelt, "What shall we name this war" said this, "I replied immediately, 'The Unnecessary War."
Chamberlain should not have "given peace a chance" in light of the facts. He should not have tried to "negoitate our differences" in a betrayal of Checheslovakia to the Hitler regime.
The term " negotiate our differences" is again a term empty of meaning To what differences do you refer.
Finally, I disagree that the writers here primarilly express violence. They express anger perhaps, but that anger is justified. The perfidy of an American President and Democrats who chaired the head of a foreign power who accused Americans of racism has not yet set in.
I am willing to bet there will come a time when the question will be asked: Where were you and what were you doing when the President betrayed his country?
Robert
ZZMike | 5.23.10 @ 11:16PM
"Ever heard of "Give Peace a Chance?"
Yes - quite a lot, back in the Woodstock era.
The pages of history are littered with the corpses of countries who weren't strong enough to resist their neighbors.
I doubt you would have much luck "negotiating" your differences" with a Taliban militant, armed with an AK-47 and an assagai.
Finally, while it only takes one to make war, it takes two to make peace. You might want to check out any good history book on Europe, covering the last two millennia, or on Asiam covering the last three.
Tim*| 5.23.10 @ 11:13AM
Jeffry Is Very Sad !
The Long Knives Will Soon Get Him .
Alrighty Then , What's For Lunch ?
philfl63| 5.23.10 @ 12:58PM
The wonder and glory of America, and the greatest quality that sets it apart from the rest of the world is that anyone can come here legally and become an American. Anyone. No other country in history can make the same claim. This person Obama can become an American, if he chooses to do so. However, we know that he is not an American and despises America, Americans, and all that our country represents. This person is the most evil, wicked man to ever assume office in our nation's history. May he be exposed and removed from office.
dw| 5.23.10 @ 1:12PM
In the communist dictionary the definition of "compromise" is---- victory in our continued struggle towards a "stateless" and "classless" world utopia based on collectivist theory, ruled by academic engineers and mindless lemmings--
Compromising with these stalinist is what has put us further down their road.
The definition of insanity is continuing a behavior that results in failure and never changing that behavior. (Or is that the definition of stupid?)
WE must change the behavior by firing all those who engage in it. That is how our constitutional republic is designed to work. Vote all the little d's out this Nov. or it will be to late. The fifth column now occupies the White House and the lemmings are at the gates.
Tim*| 5.23.10 @ 1:48PM
WE CAN SEE NOVEMBER FROM OUR HOUSE
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates
Remember In November
Jim O'Brien| 5.23.10 @ 2:08PM
Washington Times editorial telling Calderon to go home. Obama should also go home.
http://www.washingtontimes.com.....to-mexico/
Jim O'Brien| 5.23.10 @ 2:12PM
Why aren't national guard or U.S. Army troops helping Mr. Barnett defend the border (and his property)?
http://www.washingtontimes.com.....a-rancher/
Kylie Estwick| 5.23.10 @ 2:55PM
Pretty much everyone in the world with the exception of the deluded tea-bagger movement recognizes Obama has restored America's reputation worldwide. This is undisputed. The fact the author calls that into question is an immediate indication the author is dealing is in pipe-dream speculation rather than reality.
Nick| 5.23.10 @ 6:17PM
"This is undisputed."
Bzzzzzzzzzzz! Wrong!
This is VERY disputed.
no to obama| 5.23.10 @ 8:24PM
Oh No! Kylie is hittin' on the crack pipe again!
Mimi| 5.23.10 @ 9:14PM
To All: ......The discourse that has occurred this week-end....in the aftermath of a stunning article written by ANDREW CLINE has to be one of the best on AMERICAN SPECTATOR. It should be printed in the magazine for all to see. Why? ... Because it bring's out the striking contrasts in American thought today. It is a monumental example of what the election of 2010 and 2012 will be about. Kylie, please, re-read the post's of Robert and Eric....their precious words should remain in our minds like indelible INK!!
Robert | 5.24.10 @ 12:33AM
DEAR MS. ESTWICK,
President O'Bama has not restored America's reputation; he is ruining it. America is progressively (no pun intended) being held in greater contempt by rogue nations. Iran spits in our face as O'Bama plays Nevile Chamberlain to his Hitler.
Although he unilaterally decided to renege on a missile defense treaty with Poland, Russia spat in his face and offered no help in reigning in Iran. He has damaged America's relationship with Britain and has done his best to ostracize Israel in a shameful pitch of the affections of mid east despots. Israeli citizens and American Jews are completely justified in their dislike of O'Bama. He has entered a Start treaty to which he agreed, though he denies it, to reduce missile defense capacity, a dangerous thing to do with nuclear weapons proliferating. He is however taking credit for creating a democracy in Iraq, according to Biden, one of the O'Bama Administration's major accomplishments, though if O'Bama had had his way troops would have been withdrawn in 2008 following which the Iraqi people would have been subjected to a Sunni and Al Quaida bloodbath.
He is seeking to have tried in New York an Al Quaida murderer who has already entered his plea of guilty. This will be a propaganda piece for terrorists world wide. He claims success for his anti terrorist efforts, though terrorists attacks have increased dramatically. He claims, incidentally, that as no American died in the last two terrorist attacks, his anti terrorist plan is working . The "underwear bomber" failed to kill over 200 people only because the fuse to explosives taped to his groin, did not go off. The terrorist purchased his ticket with cash, was flying from Yemen, on a One Way ticket, and was on the No Fly list, all of course, RED FLAGS. 200 or more Americans were not killed simply because the fuse did not ignite.
Similarly, the Time Square Bomber tried to blow up Time Square and failed for want of the righta fuse. Had it worked perhaps hundreds would have died. He was on the No Fly list during Bush's term. O'Bama took his name off the list on becoming President. They just barely caught him as his plane was taxiing onto the run way on the way back to Palestine. The President told America the underwear bomber and the Time Square bomber were not related to international terrorism. His statement, of course, is a falsehood.
In all, the world is a far more dangerous place for his ascension to power just as America is fast becoming more impoverished and at risk.
P.S. The term "tea bagger" , I am told by Rachael Maddow, who should know, denotes a deviate male on male sexual practice. The proper term, one free of prejudice and derision, is tea partier.
ROBERT
Campy| 5.24.10 @ 12:39PM
Robert,
Thank you for reminding me to stand up and push back with reasoned, intelligent discourse. Was inclined to ignore Ms. Estwick's crude comment about 'tea baggers', but it should not go unchecked. Thanks for the kick in the patoot.
Hope you continue to post here regularly and often, along with other equally eloquent writers.
There are also some seriously fun guys, including: Eric Cartman, Nick, and Tim*—you cracked me up with your NOVEMBER line!
Mimi, you're right; an enlightening weekend.
drudge ette obama| 5.24.10 @ 7:18AM
Keep saying it often, Estwick. America's reputation has been at odds with Socialist/Communist countries for decades. You can't restore what never was. And who gives a damn what they think. I don't.
Can you tell me where the reputation is restored? Cuba, Venezuela, Poland, Czechoslovakia, China, France, Italy, Greece, Canada, Mexico, Great Britain.....Iran, Saudi Arabia, Kenya?
ZZMike | 5.23.10 @ 11:09PM
"... Calderon has previously said, "Criminalizing immigration, which is a social and economic phenomena, this way opens the door to intolerance, hate, and discrimination."
Rarely has such hypocrisy been heard in the land. Mexico's immigration laws make us look like Mr Roger's Neighborhood (which we may well be).
His Southern border is held by armed guards. Illegal immigrants (into Mexico) are arrested, jailed, and/or deported promptly.
If Obama were a mench, he would have said to Calderon, "OK, how about if we make our immigration laws just like yours?"
Followed by "Why have you let your country become such a cesspool that millions of people risk their lives trying to leave it?"
But that would be "insensitive".
WAKE UP| 5.24.10 @ 12:58AM
I don't know why Calderon doesn't just talk directly to the Chinese about the Arizona law and cut out the middle man (or, in the case of Obama and Holder, the middle wimps).
drudge ette obama| 5.24.10 @ 7:19AM
Sacrifice their pride? What the hell are you talking about? Pride in what? What did Obama actually promise in his campaign?
dw| 5.24.10 @ 1:11PM
What fun it would be in some magical world to be able to turn over some vast area of rich, fertile land to the leftist, put obama in as the King and then watch them run it into the ground with incredible speed. How long would it be before they were knocking on the our conservative door asking for money to save their unions and military support to fend off some hostile group who they previously thought they had suffienctly exposed their necks to?
Jeffry and Kylie could then bask in the sun of their utopian dream world and live life to the fullest up until the moment it can not be financially sustained and reality takes command.
Syd Chaden| 5.25.10 @ 1:58PM
Mexico arrests anyone who enters its territory illegally, and every other Latin American country does the same. But, the President of Mexico has condemned Arizona for passing a law to arrest anyone who is apprehended in Arizona that is in the USA illegally. And, virtually all of the Hispanic organizations in the USA have condemned or are protesting against Arizona for passing a law to do that. And, even the US Government is condemning the Arizona law.
But, neither those same Hispanic organizations in the USA, nor the US Government, have condemned or protested against Mexico or the other Latin American countries for doing the same thing that the Arizona law provides for.
Accordingly, it clearly is not the provisions of the Arizona law that are at issue.
The issue is that it is acceptable for Latin American countries to arrest people that are in their countries illegally, but it is not acceptable for a non-Latin American country, specifically, the USA, to do that.
Accordingly, in order to have a law such as the one at issue, Arizona needs to declare itself a Hispanic state. If it did, then it would be all right to arrest anyone who has entered its jurisdiction illegally.
In fact, Arizona could go a step further, and declare itself an ISLAMIC Hispanic state. That would enable Arizona to imprison or execute anyone in its territory that it sees fit, without any fear of condemnation by the US Government, Hispanic groups, civil rights groups, or the UN.
It would violate US church and state separation requirements, but none of the organizations which advocate separation of church and state would complain, since it involves Islam.
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