Concorde's end came not with a whimper but a tragic bang.
Tempus fugit, of course, but it's still hard for some of us to
realize that the giddy age of supersonic air travel has already
come and gone. And a damned good thing, too.
It was in fact just 41 years ago that André Turcat, a
47-year-old test pilot by trade, lined up a spindly, droop-nosed
flying machine on the center line of runway 33 at France's Toulouse
Blagnac airfield. He spooled up its four puissant Olympus engines
to a cosmic roar, switched on after-burners, and released the
brakes. As Concorde Prototype 001 took off in its patriotic blue,
white, and red livery, excited onlookers were chanting Allez
France! Allez France!
No matter that those engines were mostly British, as was roughly
half the plane. When Turcat landed 35 minutes later on March 2,
1969, it was clear that France had a proud new symbol. As Le Monde
has frankly noted, Concorde "was created largely to serve the
prestige of France...[it was] the expression of political will,
founded on a certain idea of national grandeur."
Now a months-long trial in Paris illustrates how specious the
whole business was. Not to mention potentially more dangerous to
your health than smoking. It shows, for those who hadn't already
surmised as much, that Concorde was a preposterously expensive
accident waiting to happen. The people responsible for perpetrating
this sham are not in the courtroom, of course.
Concorde's end came not with a whimper but a tragic bang at 4:44
p.m. local time on July 25, 2000. Air France flight 4590, chartered
by a group of 100 Germans heading for a rendezvous with a cruise
ship in New York, blew a tire on its left landing gear as it
accelerated down runway 26 at Charles de Gaulle airport. Debris
slung from the tire and wheel hit the underside of the plane's left
wing and penetrated a fuel tank.
President Jacques Chirac, just landed from Tokyo, watched aghast
from his taxiing 747 as the Concorde's leaking jet fuel caught
fire, trailing a long sheet of flame. The plane lost power in its
two left engines. Past the point where takeoff could be aborted, it
struggled barely 200 feet into the air as the cockpit crew tried
desperately to turn toward nearby Le Bourget airport for an
emergency landing. "Too late...no time," were Captain Christian
Marty's last recorded words as the uncontrollable plane suddenly
flipped over and pancaked onto a mostly empty building in the Paris
suburb of Gonesse. All 100 passengers, three flight crew, six
flight attendants, and four persons on the ground were killed.
France went into mourning. The crash was compared to the sinking
of the Titanic, the Hindenburg bursting into
flames, the Challenger space shuttle exploding. Tinkering
was done afterward on several Concordes, reinforcing fuel tanks and
strengthening tires, but the plane made its final commercial flight
in October 2003. Even London's understated Times lamented,
"Nothing will ever be quite the same again...This was the
superplane, the symbol of progress, the icon of invention, a
totem."
And yet. Despite the glamorous image, Concorde was a hard-luck,
jinxed project from the beginning, a cautionary tale about doing
something just because it was technically possible and politically
attractive.
THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM was that Concorde was entirely a
public-sector project and ipso facto out of touch with reality. In
the 1960s the French and British governments spent $3 billion in
public monies developing a supersonic transport (SST). (U.S. plane
makers Boeing, Lockheed, and North American also caught the SST
fever and did designs, but market realities made them abandon the
idea in the early 1970s.) Besides the intense, politically popular
satisfaction of beating the Americans at the game of air transport
they had dominated for so long, this kept British and French
state-owned aircraft manufacturers busy. And when it was built, the
reasoning went, they could always sell it to their subsidized
national airlines.
Their engineers used some 300 test models in wind tunnels and
gave birth to a weird breed of bird. Lift was provided by a
combination of wing, vortex, and thrust. Its all-important center
of gravity was moved forward or aft by manually transferring fuel
among its 14 tanks. At Mach 2, about 1,150 knots, and 60,000 feet,
the air temperature is around minus 67 degrees F, but atmospheric
friction heated the fuselage so much it expanded to make the plane
about half a foot longer. "It's not an easy plane to fly, you have
to be constantly alert," Peter Duffey, a retired British Airways
Concorde pilot, once told me. "Takeoff time is only half that of a
747. At twice the speed of sound, you're always thinking about
where you can land in the event of an emergency, and there are
about 50 reasons besides engine failure why you would have to take
it down to subsonic flight."
Sales estimates were for 240 Concordes by 1978; optimists hoped
for up to 1,500 purchases eventually by the world's airlines. But
then the same reality hit that had discouraged American designers:
nobody wanted to buy what the French invariably called the
beautiful white bird. Grandeur and prestige alone won't keep
shareholders happy, and commercial airlines couldn't see how to
make money with it.
First there was the oil shock of the 1970s, driving fuel prices
up -- and Concorde consumed four times as much fuel to carry
one-quarter as many passengers as a 747. Besides that, engineers
and marketers greatly underestimated the problem of the sonic boom.
Resembling the dis-concerting crack of a high-velocity rifle shot,
it would be heard by millions on the ground as the plane passed
overhead. That ruled out lucrative American routes like New York to
Los Angeles. And Concorde's thunderous engines made so much noise
on takeoff that some major cities were unwilling to accept it.
Finally all prospective buyers canceled their options except the
captive Air France and British Airways, which got the plane at
bargain prices from their governments. Only 14 Concordes entered
service. To be sure, it became an instant hit with the fashionably
hurried, who lined up to pay about $10,000 for a round-trip
transatlantic ticket to race the sun, leaving London or Paris for
New York and arriving about three and a half hours later -- a few
minutes before they left. But personally, I found the one trip I
made an unpleasant experience: sealed in a narrow tube with windows
about the size of a man's hand, passengers could barely converse
with their seatmates for the deafening engine noise. Compared with
the quiet, palatial luxury of first class in a 747, it was a chore
to gain a few hours.
"The economics of Concorde never made sense and there was never
a market for it," Ronald Davies, curator of air transport at
Washington's National Air and Space Museum, once told me. "For
every hour in the air, it spent 14 on the ground. And for every
seat transported across the Atlantic, it had to carry one ton of
fuel. It was so inefficient it's unbelievable." And all that money
spent on the development of this prestige project? "Taxpayer-funded
executive air transport. It's one of the biggest scams ever
perpetrated."
BUT THE PERPETRATORS aren't on trial in Paris. Instead, it's
Continental Airlines and two of its maintenance men, accused of
manslaughter along with two hapless retired French former employees
of the company that originally built Concorde and a former member
of the French civil aviation authority.
Relying on the French is always a mistake. Relying on government
engineers, French and UK ones, is a fatal mistake.
William Parker| 5.18.10 @ 9:47AM
Too bad that Ben Stein (see Stein's May 17th piece on flying
American First Class) could not have been a passenger on that
ill-fated July 25th 2000 Concorde flight.
If he had been, we would have been spared his constant bragging
of how successful he is, how much money he has, and how he enjoys
his luxurious life in his "many houses and apartments," and how
he enjoys the fabulous perks of American First Class, and how the
flight attendants adore him, ad nauseum, world without end, Amen.
Stan Redmond| 5.18.10 @ 10:00AM
Spoken like a true populist Obama (pbuh) supporter. Rather then
take a tongue in cheek view of a great modern satirist, you wish
him dead. I don't remember who said [paraphrasing] "A liberal
sees a rich person and thinks how can I take their stuff away and
a conservative thinks, how can I earn for myself what they have."
You go a step further and just hope they die.
The best part is you can't help but read Ben Stein's blog posts
you proclaim you hate. You can't even control yourself.
William Parker| 5.18.10 @ 10:46AM
No, Mr. Redomond, I am not a liberal Obama supporter.
I am, in fact, a traditional fiscal conservative--not a
hell-bent, right-wing neoconservative, but a traditional
conservative.
And I am sick of Mr. Stein's ilk. He is a status-seeking, showoff
materialist.
By the way, Mr. Redmond, do you think there is a confederacy of
conservatives? Do you think we should never criticize each other?
I will take on any conservative that I think is way out of line
with traditional conservatism--and there are lots of them,
including you, it seems.
PolishKnight| 5.18.10 @ 3:07PM
William, I spot an impostor! The terms "right wing
neoconservative" are used by leftists to discredit conservatives.
It would be like a dixiecrat saying they're not a socialist
liberal.
Anyways, Ben Stein is at least honest about his enjoyment of life
unlike limo liberals who proclaim the wonders of diversity while
living in all white gated communities and preach the wonders of
public transportation while driving everywhere...
Alan Brooks| 5.18.10 @ 6:01PM
"And I am sick of Mr. Stein's ilk. He is a status-seeking,
showoff materialist."
But that is what will bring the GOP down. Let them destroy
themselves.
JimE| 5.18.10 @ 10:10PM
Troll Parker,
You are a moron, liberal trolls always preface their message with
how conservative they are before they launch their leftist
tirades. Go back to play with your feces.
Miss Alabama| 5.18.10 @ 10:49AM
Ben Stein "a great modern satirist"?
Obviously, you have little knowledge of literature, and you
certainly are not familiar with great satire.
KyMouse| 5.18.10 @ 12:06PM
Mr. Parker, why are you incapable of disagreeing with Mr. Stein
without wishing that he were dead? Shame on you.
Reinhard| 5.18.10 @ 1:11PM
Parker,
What the hell does this article have to do with Ben Stein?
Jealous idiot.
Geez. Jealous much? For someone who says they're an old school
conservative, you sound curiously like one of those social &
economic justice malcontents on the left. And, bro, you wished
death on someone. That doesn't do good things for your argument.
As for your attemtps to purge all of us who don't toe YOUR line,
again, you sound like a commie. But hey, why agree on the 98% of
things that we would under normal circumstances? Let's just go
YOUR route & wish death on people who aren't up to YOUR par.
Cause THAT'LL get a lot done. In the words of Keyshawn Johnson,
"COME ON, MAN!"
Gr0w1er| 5.18.10 @ 2:10PM
Jealous? Too much class envy. Careful- your slip is showing...
Jay Washburne| 5.20.10 @ 6:44AM
Mr. Parker: If Mr. Stein offends you so much, stick with Keith
Olberman. I believe he's more your style.
Ace| 5.20.10 @ 6:53AM
Mr. Parker
U could always refrain from reading Ben if he annoys U so
much.
I had other rather more permanent and painful suggestions, but,
Ben's good example led me from them.
dittoheadadt| 5.18.10 @ 10:39AM
I'm reminded of reading WFB Jr.'s account of his round-the-world
trip on the Concorde and the in-flight loss of part of the tail
of the plane. Happened in 1989.
"After the Concorde left Christchurch
a section of rudder was lost. There was a "thud" and resultant
vibration as the aircraft was climbing through 43,000 feet and
accelerating to Mach 2. Repairs were carried out in Sydney so
that the round-the-world charter could continue to London."
D.A. Darrough| 5.18.10 @ 10:53AM
Its sad that American, European and Russian aircraft
manufacturers have not been able to develop a much more
sophisticated and safer version of the Concorde after all these
years. Say what you want about its safety record, but it did have
tremendous impact on commercial aviation in its day. However,
instead of learning and growing from that aircraft, the big
aircraft companies continue to develop "boondoggles" like the
A-380 and the 787!! What will they say when the wings fall off
one of these turkeys??
Ned| 5.18.10 @ 2:17PM
To build "their" SST the Soviets did what they usually did/do and
stole the French designs... unfortunately they didn't understand
the metalurgy (either) and they built a dangerous aircraft that
only made a few flights - crashing spectacularly at the '73 Paris
Air Show
ACynic| 12.6.10 @ 10:46AM
Actually, they will not have to say anything because the wings
will never fall off these planes.
In fact, wings never fall off planes, in case you have not
noticied. As for boondoggles, the planes you cited have orders
years into the future.
Boeing, and even Airbus, must produce products that customers will
actually buy and this is the only way they can survive. Only
governments can produce things that nobody wants and still
survive.
Oh, that's right !! The Concorde WAS produced by governments and in
fact, nobody WANTED to buy this plane; Air France and British Air
(BOAC at the time) were FORCED to buy these disasters.
I suggest you look up the definition of "boondoggle" and
"turkey."
Tony in Central PA| 5.18.10 @ 11:51AM
Supersonic is a completely different kind of flying, altogether.
I'm amazed that this plane continued to operate as long as it
did. I'm sure it cost billions of European tax dollars to keep it
flying.
John Jarrell| 5.18.10 @ 12:11PM
I agree with Mr. Harriss in the case of the Concorde, though I
believe he gave short shrift to operational restrictions imposed
on it by the Eco-mafia and the fact that the Boeing design, to my
recollection, was far superior to the Concorde . It had about
twice the passenger capacity and was faster. It may have had a
shot at being profitable. But remember that complaints about the
possible effect of sonic booms was only one Eco-mafia complaint.
The contrails (condensation trails) were going to generate a
high-altitude cloud covers that would have a catastrophic effect
on the environment.
Agreed, Concorde, by virtue of its Frankenstein-like orgins, was
doomed from the start. But the SST concept was killed by
pseudo-science and eco-hysteria.
Dustoff| 5.18.10 @ 4:50PM
DA
boondoggles" like the A-380 and the 787!!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
787 boondoggle? Granted most new aircraft have their teething
problems as the 787 has.
But I think you know little about the 787.
Pete| 5.18.10 @ 7:09PM
Hilarious stuff...who knew? I had never, ever heard a whisper of
this before...wonder why? Shocking that Osama hasn't commissioned
one to be built to speed up his "date nights" around the country.
Christopher Holland| 5.18.10 @ 10:00PM
The French and British governments spent billions building a
plane that used a ton of fuel for every passenger carried, each
passenger paid $10k to sit in a seat with as much room as as in a
DC3 from the 1930s, the plane was noisy and it was so
tempermental a burst tyre caused the engines to catch fire and
the plane to crash. And they wonder what the program failed!!
John Erb| 5.19.10 @ 2:21AM
The government could not save the mustang ranch by making a
profit selling whiskey and women how can we expect government to
make a profitable airplane, air line, car company,health
insurance or anything else?
Richard Baker| 5.19.10 @ 7:54AM
Dustoff:
Agree with you. Most of these correspondents have little
knowledge regarding aircraft subjects. However, that doesn't seem
to stop them from spouting their inanities. Some of these clowns
would have complained that the DC-3 was too leading edge, which
it was, in the '30s. Why build beyond the Ford Tri-Motor?
The Concorde has always reminded me of USAF's RB-70 project. That
plane was based on a "lifting body" conception that allowed it to
achieve very high speeds. Theoretically, it was an impressive
achievement...but the Air Force canceled the program after only
two planes were built. One of those planes is in the museum at
Dayton; the other died a fiery death.
More than coincidence?
Ret AF| 5.22.10 @ 8:15PM
I think the XB-70 crash was due to a midair collision during a
photo-op. One of the chase planes simply got too close. Human
carelessness, yes, but of a differeent kind...
Richard Baker| 5.19.10 @ 8:28PM
No, Robert Strange McNamara (that truly was his name) canceled
the XB-70 program. The Air Force wanted it as a high- speed deep
penetrator into Soviet airspace. Mach 3+ for a bomber was a
remarkable achievement. It was canceled by the man who, as
President of Ford Motor Company, gave us the 1960 Falcon and
tried to make the F-111 a carrier based fighter, among other
brilliant decisions. The prototype which crashed did so because
Joe Walker, in his F-104, got too close and was literally pulled
into the wake of the B-70 on a photo pass with the resulting
catastrophe.
RetAF| 5.22.10 @ 8:16PM
Oops, should have read Richards response.
ACynic| 12.6.10 @ 10:54AM
McNamara also gave us the concept of "body counts" in Vietnam to
provide a "quantitative" value on the success or failure of that
war. McNamara' policies, subsequent to his Ford Motor days, proved
disasterous in everything he touched. He is your archetype
bureaucrat; conceited, arrogant, vain, egomaniacal, know-it-all.
Govt. is full of his type. This is why this country is in such a
mess.
Mark Anderson| 5.20.10 @ 1:24AM
You neglect to say that the U.S. doomed the Concorde by not
allowing it at most airports, and it had nothing to do with
noise. Just the facts please.
Supersonic military aircraft have sophisticated "punch-out"
capability primarily because airplanes break, (not in case they are
shot down).
Concordes were stupid.
That overlooks a few awkward things like the total absence of
anything approaching an acceptable level of cockpit
management/chain of command, like the aircraft being more than six
tons overloaded with taxiing fuel and late-loaded baggage, like the
person in the pilot costume in the command seat electing to take
off downwind on a runway having a third-world-like substandard
surface for almost half its length and then, the combination of bad
command decisions, bad maintenance and a dragging undercarriage
assembly combining having required urgent evasive action to avoid
imminent collision with a taxiing Air France B-747, dragging the
aircraft airborne at 20 knots under its minimum speed for safe
flight. Then like the person in the "flight engineer's" (airborne
airplane plumber's) costume in the second officer's seat
arbitrarily shutting down a perfectly fine and functioning engine,
like the wheel spacer that, due to typical Air France maintenance
was missing from the left main gear, leaving it skewed and dragging
itself and its tires to pieces.
(Air France itself, whose lackadaisical "maintenance" was noted
by even French "investigators," is contemptuously suing Continental
in the trial. Truth seekers are aghast Air France is not a murder
defendant.)
Like testimony by a number of reliable eyewitnesses, including
the on-duty air traffic controller, several airport firemen, a half
dozen or so Air France and British Airways Concorde captains and
the veteran captain of Jacques Chirac's taxiing B-747, that the
Concorde caught fire several hundred yards before it could have
struck Continental Airlines tiny metal part.
And then there is the damning argument against the Air France's
Concorde disaster contained in Air France's record of near
disasters. French civil aviation authorities should have stopped
Air France's Concorde service years ago." If the Paris disaster was
Concorde's only fatal crash, facts have long made it clear that
every surviving Air France Concorde passenger is lucky to be
alive.
Concorde did not fail on July 25 2000. Air France failed.
The arrogance that builds the mountain of conceit from which
flies Air France's chickens came home to roost!
Jack| 5.18.10 @ 9:02AM
Relying on the French is always a mistake. Relying on government engineers, French and UK ones, is a fatal mistake.
William Parker| 5.18.10 @ 9:47AM
Too bad that Ben Stein (see Stein's May 17th piece on flying American First Class) could not have been a passenger on that ill-fated July 25th 2000 Concorde flight.
If he had been, we would have been spared his constant bragging of how successful he is, how much money he has, and how he enjoys his luxurious life in his "many houses and apartments," and how he enjoys the fabulous perks of American First Class, and how the flight attendants adore him, ad nauseum, world without end, Amen.
Stan Redmond| 5.18.10 @ 10:00AM
Spoken like a true populist Obama (pbuh) supporter. Rather then take a tongue in cheek view of a great modern satirist, you wish him dead. I don't remember who said [paraphrasing] "A liberal sees a rich person and thinks how can I take their stuff away and a conservative thinks, how can I earn for myself what they have." You go a step further and just hope they die.
The best part is you can't help but read Ben Stein's blog posts you proclaim you hate. You can't even control yourself.
William Parker| 5.18.10 @ 10:46AM
No, Mr. Redomond, I am not a liberal Obama supporter.
I am, in fact, a traditional fiscal conservative--not a hell-bent, right-wing neoconservative, but a traditional conservative.
And I am sick of Mr. Stein's ilk. He is a status-seeking, showoff materialist.
By the way, Mr. Redmond, do you think there is a confederacy of conservatives? Do you think we should never criticize each other?
I will take on any conservative that I think is way out of line with traditional conservatism--and there are lots of them, including you, it seems.
PolishKnight| 5.18.10 @ 3:07PM
William, I spot an impostor! The terms "right wing neoconservative" are used by leftists to discredit conservatives. It would be like a dixiecrat saying they're not a socialist liberal.
Anyways, Ben Stein is at least honest about his enjoyment of life unlike limo liberals who proclaim the wonders of diversity while living in all white gated communities and preach the wonders of public transportation while driving everywhere...
Alan Brooks| 5.18.10 @ 6:01PM
"And I am sick of Mr. Stein's ilk. He is a status-seeking, showoff materialist."
But that is what will bring the GOP down. Let them destroy themselves.
JimE| 5.18.10 @ 10:10PM
Troll Parker,
You are a moron, liberal trolls always preface their message with how conservative they are before they launch their leftist tirades. Go back to play with your feces.
Miss Alabama| 5.18.10 @ 10:49AM
Ben Stein "a great modern satirist"?
Obviously, you have little knowledge of literature, and you certainly are not familiar with great satire.
KyMouse| 5.18.10 @ 12:06PM
Mr. Parker, why are you incapable of disagreeing with Mr. Stein without wishing that he were dead? Shame on you.
Reinhard| 5.18.10 @ 1:11PM
Parker,
What the hell does this article have to do with Ben Stein? Jealous idiot.
NavyBrat| 5.18.10 @ 1:30PM
Geez. Jealous much? For someone who says they're an old school conservative, you sound curiously like one of those social & economic justice malcontents on the left. And, bro, you wished death on someone. That doesn't do good things for your argument. As for your attemtps to purge all of us who don't toe YOUR line, again, you sound like a commie. But hey, why agree on the 98% of things that we would under normal circumstances? Let's just go YOUR route & wish death on people who aren't up to YOUR par. Cause THAT'LL get a lot done. In the words of Keyshawn Johnson, "COME ON, MAN!"
Gr0w1er| 5.18.10 @ 2:10PM
Jealous? Too much class envy. Careful- your slip is showing...
Jay Washburne| 5.20.10 @ 6:44AM
Mr. Parker: If Mr. Stein offends you so much, stick with Keith Olberman. I believe he's more your style.
Ace| 5.20.10 @ 6:53AM
Mr. Parker
U could always refrain from reading Ben if he annoys U so much.
I had other rather more permanent and painful suggestions, but, Ben's good example led me from them.
dittoheadadt| 5.18.10 @ 10:39AM
I'm reminded of reading WFB Jr.'s account of his round-the-world trip on the Concorde and the in-flight loss of part of the tail of the plane. Happened in 1989.
"After the Concorde left Christchurch
a section of rudder was lost. There was a "thud" and resultant vibration as the aircraft was climbing through 43,000 feet and accelerating to Mach 2. Repairs were carried out in Sydney so that the round-the-world charter could continue to London."
D.A. Darrough| 5.18.10 @ 10:53AM
Its sad that American, European and Russian aircraft manufacturers have not been able to develop a much more sophisticated and safer version of the Concorde after all these years. Say what you want about its safety record, but it did have tremendous impact on commercial aviation in its day. However, instead of learning and growing from that aircraft, the big aircraft companies continue to develop "boondoggles" like the A-380 and the 787!! What will they say when the wings fall off one of these turkeys??
Ned| 5.18.10 @ 2:17PM
To build "their" SST the Soviets did what they usually did/do and stole the French designs... unfortunately they didn't understand the metalurgy (either) and they built a dangerous aircraft that only made a few flights - crashing spectacularly at the '73 Paris Air Show
ACynic| 12.6.10 @ 10:46AM
Actually, they will not have to say anything because the wings will never fall off these planes.
In fact, wings never fall off planes, in case you have not noticied. As for boondoggles, the planes you cited have orders years into the future.
Boeing, and even Airbus, must produce products that customers will actually buy and this is the only way they can survive. Only governments can produce things that nobody wants and still survive.
Oh, that's right !! The Concorde WAS produced by governments and in fact, nobody WANTED to buy this plane; Air France and British Air (BOAC at the time) were FORCED to buy these disasters.
I suggest you look up the definition of "boondoggle" and "turkey."
Tony in Central PA| 5.18.10 @ 11:51AM
Supersonic is a completely different kind of flying, altogether. I'm amazed that this plane continued to operate as long as it did. I'm sure it cost billions of European tax dollars to keep it flying.
John Jarrell| 5.18.10 @ 12:11PM
I agree with Mr. Harriss in the case of the Concorde, though I believe he gave short shrift to operational restrictions imposed on it by the Eco-mafia and the fact that the Boeing design, to my recollection, was far superior to the Concorde . It had about twice the passenger capacity and was faster. It may have had a shot at being profitable. But remember that complaints about the possible effect of sonic booms was only one Eco-mafia complaint. The contrails (condensation trails) were going to generate a high-altitude cloud covers that would have a catastrophic effect on the environment.
Agreed, Concorde, by virtue of its Frankenstein-like orgins, was doomed from the start. But the SST concept was killed by pseudo-science and eco-hysteria.
Dustoff| 5.18.10 @ 4:50PM
DA
boondoggles" like the A-380 and the 787!!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
787 boondoggle? Granted most new aircraft have their teething problems as the 787 has.
But I think you know little about the 787.
Pete| 5.18.10 @ 7:09PM
Hilarious stuff...who knew? I had never, ever heard a whisper of this before...wonder why? Shocking that Osama hasn't commissioned one to be built to speed up his "date nights" around the country.
Christopher Holland| 5.18.10 @ 10:00PM
The French and British governments spent billions building a plane that used a ton of fuel for every passenger carried, each passenger paid $10k to sit in a seat with as much room as as in a DC3 from the 1930s, the plane was noisy and it was so tempermental a burst tyre caused the engines to catch fire and the plane to crash. And they wonder what the program failed!!
John Erb| 5.19.10 @ 2:21AM
The government could not save the mustang ranch by making a profit selling whiskey and women how can we expect government to make a profitable airplane, air line, car company,health insurance or anything else?
Richard Baker| 5.19.10 @ 7:54AM
Dustoff:
Agree with you. Most of these correspondents have little knowledge regarding aircraft subjects. However, that doesn't seem to stop them from spouting their inanities. Some of these clowns would have complained that the DC-3 was too leading edge, which it was, in the '30s. Why build beyond the Ford Tri-Motor?
Francis W. Porretto| 5.19.10 @ 1:40PM
The Concorde has always reminded me of USAF's RB-70 project. That plane was based on a "lifting body" conception that allowed it to achieve very high speeds. Theoretically, it was an impressive achievement...but the Air Force canceled the program after only two planes were built. One of those planes is in the museum at Dayton; the other died a fiery death.
More than coincidence?
Ret AF| 5.22.10 @ 8:15PM
I think the XB-70 crash was due to a midair collision during a photo-op. One of the chase planes simply got too close. Human carelessness, yes, but of a differeent kind...
Richard Baker| 5.19.10 @ 8:28PM
No, Robert Strange McNamara (that truly was his name) canceled the XB-70 program. The Air Force wanted it as a high- speed deep penetrator into Soviet airspace. Mach 3+ for a bomber was a remarkable achievement. It was canceled by the man who, as President of Ford Motor Company, gave us the 1960 Falcon and tried to make the F-111 a carrier based fighter, among other brilliant decisions. The prototype which crashed did so because Joe Walker, in his F-104, got too close and was literally pulled into the wake of the B-70 on a photo pass with the resulting catastrophe.
RetAF| 5.22.10 @ 8:16PM
Oops, should have read Richards response.
ACynic| 12.6.10 @ 10:54AM
McNamara also gave us the concept of "body counts" in Vietnam to provide a "quantitative" value on the success or failure of that war. McNamara' policies, subsequent to his Ford Motor days, proved disasterous in everything he touched. He is your archetype bureaucrat; conceited, arrogant, vain, egomaniacal, know-it-all. Govt. is full of his type. This is why this country is in such a mess.
Mark Anderson| 5.20.10 @ 1:24AM
You neglect to say that the U.S. doomed the Concorde by not allowing it at most airports, and it had nothing to do with noise. Just the facts please.
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Ken (Old Texican)| 12.6.10 @ 9:41AM
Mark,
I've been a pilot for forty years.
All airplanes break.
Super-sonic speeds generate super-critical operating envelopes.
Supersonic military aircraft have sophisticated "punch-out" capability primarily because airplanes break, (not in case they are shot down).
Concordes were stupid.
Brian Richard Allen| 1.6.11 @ 1:30AM
That overlooks a few awkward things like the total absence of anything approaching an acceptable level of cockpit management/chain of command, like the aircraft being more than six tons overloaded with taxiing fuel and late-loaded baggage, like the person in the pilot costume in the command seat electing to take off downwind on a runway having a third-world-like substandard surface for almost half its length and then, the combination of bad command decisions, bad maintenance and a dragging undercarriage assembly combining having required urgent evasive action to avoid imminent collision with a taxiing Air France B-747, dragging the aircraft airborne at 20 knots under its minimum speed for safe flight. Then like the person in the "flight engineer's" (airborne airplane plumber's) costume in the second officer's seat arbitrarily shutting down a perfectly fine and functioning engine, like the wheel spacer that, due to typical Air France maintenance was missing from the left main gear, leaving it skewed and dragging itself and its tires to pieces.
(Air France itself, whose lackadaisical "maintenance" was noted by even French "investigators," is contemptuously suing Continental in the trial. Truth seekers are aghast Air France is not a murder defendant.)
Like testimony by a number of reliable eyewitnesses, including the on-duty air traffic controller, several airport firemen, a half dozen or so Air France and British Airways Concorde captains and the veteran captain of Jacques Chirac's taxiing B-747, that the Concorde caught fire several hundred yards before it could have struck Continental Airlines tiny metal part.
And then there is the damning argument against the Air France's Concorde disaster contained in Air France's record of near disasters. French civil aviation authorities should have stopped Air France's Concorde service years ago." If the Paris disaster was Concorde's only fatal crash, facts have long made it clear that every surviving Air France Concorde passenger is lucky to be alive.
Concorde did not fail on July 25 2000. Air France failed.
The arrogance that builds the mountain of conceit from which flies Air France's chickens came home to roost!