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Obama’s Rationing Man

By Philip Klein on 5.13.10 @ 6:09AM

President Obama’s nominee to run Medicare and Medicaid has declared his love for Britain’s health care system. Literally.

While much of Washington is focused on President Obama’s Supreme Court pick, Republicans are gearing up for a confirmation battle over another Obama nominee who promises to put health care back in the spotlight.

At issue is Obama’s choice to head the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, Donald Berwick, a Harvard professor with a self-professed love affair with Britain’s socialized health care system. In his writings and speeches, Berwick has defended government rationing and advocated centralized budget caps on health care spending.

“Cynics beware, I am romantic about the (British) National Health Service; I love it,” Berwick said in a July 2008 speech at England’s Wembley stadium. “All I need to do to rediscover the romance is to look at health care in my own country.”

While Berwick would not have the authority to impose a British health care system on the United States in one fell swoop, as head of CMS, he would be running both Medicare and Medicaid. Given that the two programs alone account for more than one out of every three dollars spent on health care in America (all government programs combined account for 47 percent), private players tend to follow CMS’s lead. Berwick himself has made this point.

“(G)overnment is an extraordinarily important player in the American health care scene, and it has inescapable duties with respect to improvement of care, or we’re not going to get improved care,” he said in a January 2005 interview with Health Affairs. “Government remains a major purchaser.… So as CMS goes and as Medicaid goes, so goes the system.”

There are two basic visions for how to contain the growth of health care spending. The free market approach would give individuals control over their health care dollars, with the idea that it would encourage more shopping that will drive down costs and increase quality as has happened in every other aspect of the consumer-based economy. But the other approach, employed by nations such as Britain, is to have the government ration care to meet a global budget.

President Obama rejected the market-based approach, and sought to drastically expand insurance coverage while reducing health care costs. But according to a report by CMS’s chief actuary, the new law will actually increase health care costs. That leaves rationing of care based on a bureaucratic notion of the common good as the remaining option for containing skyrocketing spending, and it’s an outcome that Berwick himself once predicted would be necessary to achieve universal coverage.

“(T)he Holy Grail of universal coverage in the United States may remain out of reach unless, through rational collective action overriding some individual self-interest, we can reduce per capita costs,” Berwick wrote in an article for Health Affairs he co-authored in 2008.

He went on to write that, “The hallmarks of proper financial management in a system… are government policies, purchasing contracts, or market mechanisms that lead to a cap on total spending, with strictly limited year-on-year growth targets.”

On a number of occasions, Berwick has praised Britain’s National Institute for Clinical Excellence (NICE), a body of experts that advises the government-run health care system on how to allocate medical spending based on cost-benefit analysis. Among other decisions, they have ruled against the use of cancer-treating drugs and put a dollar value on the final six months of human life.

“NICE is extremely effective and a conscientious, valuable, and — importantly — knowledge-building system,” Berwick said in an interview last June in Biotechnology Healthcare. “The fact that it’s a bogeyman in this country is a political fact, not a technical one.”

The national health care law that President Obama signed in March will greatly expand the role of CMS by adding an estimated 15 million beneficiaries to Medicaid. In addition, the law contains a number of initiatives, to be spearheaded by the Secretary of Health and Human Services in conjunction with the head of CMS, to provide incentive-based pay to doctors and hospitals based on performance. This builds on the comparative effectiveness research provision of last year’s economic stimulus package. While none of these measures will have the same sway as NICE does in Britain, taken together, they will move America in a NICE-like direction, especially with Berwick at the helm.

In 2003, Berwick signed on to an open letter in Health Affairs, called “Paying for Performance: Medicare Should Lead.” (Among his co-signers was Nancy-Ann DeParle, the current White House health care czar.) “Our recommendation-to the executive branch; to Congress; to employers and health plans; and to hospitals, physicians, nurses, and other health professionals — is that payment for performance should become a top national priority and that Medicare payments should lead in this effort, with an immediate priority for hospital care,” the letter read. It went on to say that the CMS administrator’s successors must continue to show “aggressiveness and commitment” to the cause, noting that, “A major initiative by Medicare to pay for performance can be expected to stimulate similar efforts by private payers…”

The idea of paying doctors and hospitals for delivering better quality health care and of offering guidance on best practices seems benign enough. As the letter put it, “Quality is not an issue for partisanship.” The problem arises when government bureaucrats or expert panels are in the position of judging quality, performance, and best practices which get applied across a broad and diverse population.

As cardiologist Sandeep Jauhar argued in a September 2008 New York Times op-ed, pay for performance initiatives can cause unintended consequences such as doctors overprescribing certain medications that are deemed effective and carry bonuses. He also recounted how an initiative in the early 1990s to give report cards to doctors performing coronary bypass surgery prompted doctors to cherry pick patients to avoid the most severely ill cases that could jeopardize their grades.

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Robbins Mitchell| 5.13.10 @ 6:36AM

Well,Berwick has been worshiping at the Church of Karl Marx's Dick for so long that his brain has assumed room temperature

Alan Brooks| 5.13.10 @ 10:08AM

How could you make medicare & medicaid any worse.
Give him a chance.

shirleybeat| 5.13.10 @ 10:17AM

Alan must be a long way from 65.

SpiralArchitect| 5.13.10 @ 4:49PM

He is mostly literate; I would have to put his IQ in the 80's :)

wbheff| 5.13.10 @ 10:36AM

After becoming familiar with his positions, and love of the Brit awfulness, I presume that by "Give him a chance," you meant, "Give him a chance to make it worse," as that is what he will try to do.

Alan Brooks| 5.13.10 @ 11:58AM

It can't get any worse.

Bill Carson| 5.13.10 @ 1:44PM

"It can't get any worse?" Whoa!

Arch Stanton| 5.13.10 @ 5:44PM

Is that really you, Bill?

Missy| 5.13.10 @ 5:17PM

Death Panels--Sarah was right.

You first, Alan; let's see how things work out for you and maybe then we'll think about it.

Bob| 3.15.11 @ 9:54PM

Yes it can

Jonas Pell| 5.13.10 @ 10:29PM

Which is still warmer than yours. I don't know what is worse about your comment, the crudeness, banality or stupidity aspects of it?

Jamie| 5.14.10 @ 4:44AM

Stupidity aspects? Must be some new-fangled Progressive term you were taught in public school! Pretty stupid.

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K962| 5.13.10 @ 6:53AM

Looking further into Donald Berwick, I find it interesting that Wikepedia lists him as a Marxist.
and also a big fan of wealth redisribution. Hmm!
He is also doesn't like the concept of consumer choice as stated in one of his speeches. That for us leaders to do. Yet another Obama tyrant in governement.

Tom| 5.13.10 @ 7:48AM

While I have no doubt he is at the very least a socialist using wiki to label someone a Marxist is a little much. I read the entry, my bet it was modified by someone with an agenda. One I share but I'd not want wiki used to label politicians I agree with facists, which probably already happens come to think of it.

Carol| 5.13.10 @ 7:01AM

When I was younger, I used to think Harvard and those other Ivy League schools were something to be admired. As it turns out I was wrong because all it turns out is freaks and Marxists who know they will end up going to hell because they believe in no one besides Big Brother.

Berwick is another sicko, in the same image of Barack "Insane" Obama, who thinks life is over-valued, unless of course you are one of them.

The GOP better stick to their guns on this freak and say no to his getting the position. A vote for him would mean they think just like him and will be shown the door down the road.

Missy| 5.13.10 @ 5:20PM

Good post, Carol--made me laugh. "Freaks" is a perfect description of these criminals.

martin j smith| 5.13.10 @ 7:21AM

I really do not know how to put this but to say who the heck do you think BHO would choose for the post of the sheriff of health / Just like the notion of a SCOTUS appointment --s0me one BHO can look at and see himself. In every way possible Republicans should be pushed to say N000000000000000000000000000000000.
In November, and this should be the catch phrase daily to voters: Do you want these people to control your lives ? Put their phase along with their names. The way to gin up motivation is to get voters angry. The Democrat Party is giving ample opportunity to do this.

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Pat in Shreveport | 5.13.10 @ 7:29AM

Linked!

This guy should not swoop in under the radar but he probably will.

Get your health care now, while you can.

Melvin| 5.13.10 @ 7:30AM

There is nothing that frosts me more is having a unelected or an appointed bureaucrat who is wildly in love with, "Well, this is the way the Europeans do it."
The self-proclaimed Lord Mayor Bloomberg is currently in London admiring that city's gazillion cameras that monitor ever single citizen moves.
His Lordship will predictably come back and demand that the tax payers shell out millions upon millions of dollars to put cameras in every conceivable orifice of New Yorkers.
Donald Berwick and all the other Haavad proffesors need to be reminded by the American people that this Republic is not to be run like a college frat house or their socialist experiments.
These United States are not wanting to join the European Union, not now, not ever, and hell can freeze over before Americans would even entrain the European empowerment.
This is why millions of our great grandfathers and grandmothers left the damn place to begin with.
If Mr. Donald Berwick and Ms. Kagan love the damn place so much then why in the hell don't they live there?

pugsley| 5.13.10 @ 4:05PM

Europa already has their overlords, this particular bunch of rats wants to finish the infestation of America asap.

Eric(OfConservativeMind)| 5.13.10 @ 4:22PM

Yes indeed. It has been happening for nigh a century now. Dead men are ruling America with their socialist ideals, and we are approaching "Utopia" with every step we take towards Europe. The end game is clear -- Disestablish American sovereignty and make us like the rest of the world, and then integrate America into "the greater whole."

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Becky| 5.13.10 @ 8:01AM

How do you cost/benefit an elderly person's health needs when the elderly do not live in vacuums? I am thinking of the broken window aspect of economics applies to medical economics also. It isn't what you see (the cost of an elderly person's direct costs) but what you don't... the resources a family would be required to bear to compensate for denied care. For example: A seventy five year old requires a hip or knee that would keep them active, keep them mobile, but is denied (individual estimation of quality was derided by Obama's take a pill perscription using his own grandmother's hip replacement as an example). The loss of the elderly's mobility means either the family has to use their time being the parent or grandparent's legs, or nursing home care which is much more expensive. An active 75 year old can also provide needed support and help to busy families, I know a lot of them that are blessings to their families.

Isn't government rationing of medical care just another version of eugenics? Utopians are always trying to weed the human garden, and economics is just an excuse to eliminate those they deem not acceptable.

Tom| 5.13.10 @ 9:41AM

Becky,
All health care is rationed. Just like any other resource it is not infinite. Govermnent rationing of care is the logical conclusion of government payment for care.
Perhaps, the family should pay for the hip replacement for grandma themselves? It would eliminate the need to be approved by a government insurance board. Of course the eventual conclusion of our slow slide into socialistic medecine will be the inability to pay for one's own healthcare out of pocket. But that is what happens when the country elects a horde of Democrats.

wbheff| 5.13.10 @ 10:42AM

Tom,
I think you don't realise the inevitable results of a government takeover of medical care, and the rationing that will also be inevitable. It is fine to say that the family should pay for the operation, but the fact will be that, they won't be allowed to, even if they have the money. Private solutions will not be permitted, and indeed, will be illegal. You will get what "the goernment" says you can have, and nothing else.

Tom| 5.13.10 @ 12:51PM

I do not often quote myself but perhaps I picked my words badly and was not clear :"Of course the eventual conclusion of our slow slide into socialistic medecine will be the inability to pay for one's own healthcare out of pocket."

I am well aware that the logical outcome of our current path is a single party payer, the government, and limited - if you have enough money - access to private care.

George| 5.13.10 @ 3:33PM

Yes, In Canada it's against the law to pay for your own health care with your own money. You can full y expect to have that implemented in the U.S. in the near future.

Paul| 5.13.10 @ 1:45PM

"Of course the eventual conclusion of our slow slide into socialistic medecine will be the inability to pay for one's own healthcare out of pocket. But that is what happens when the country elects a horde of Democrats. "

Absolutely - - It's almost as if those dems have a plan.

Missy| 5.13.10 @ 5:24PM

Yeah, and their "plan" was hatched a long, long time ago. They know exactly what they're doing.

God help us--we need it.

Don L| 5.13.10 @ 8:07AM

They will continue to dismantlel our nation, it's constitution, which they view as a scrabble game, and our freedom, until they're stopped. I see no serious effort among the 2cd level ruling class (GOP) to stop them. These are historic times when a free nation is volutarily destroying itself.

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Tim*| 5.13.10 @ 8:24AM

What are they tellin' Greece now ?
" Another reform high on the list is removing the state from the marketplace in crucial sectors like health care, transportation and energy and allowing private investment. Economists say that the liberalization of trucking routes — where a trucking license can cost up to $90,000 — and the health care industry would help bring down prices in these areas, which are among the highest in Europe."

Obama has failed to make the sale 0n this Health Scam.

The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.

Jobe| 5.13.10 @ 10:55AM

The cognitive dissonance between the obama/democratic congress' desire to continue to spend on these socialist/communist reforms and the inversely proportional weakening of our already weak economy will probably become apparent, even to the hard left idealogues who have pushed for the system to become what it is becoming. Most liberals lose the scales over their eyes when the creature they have wrought turns around and bites them on the behind. I believe that our problem is that we will be too far down the road to becoming an extension of the fiasco we call Europe to be able to pull back and recover.

Purpleguy| 5.13.10 @ 8:29AM

"The free market approach would give individuals control over their health care dollars, with the idea that it would encourage more shopping that will drive down costs and increase quality as has happened in every other aspect of the consumer-based economy." - that is patently stupid on it's face. Sure, market forces work fine when I'm buying a pair of pants, shoes, potato chips or even a car, and the car is debatable. These are all things that we all understand work for us or not, we like or we don't. When it comes to healthcare and legal matters, where we depend on the professionals to help us, market forces fall apart. Most, if not all of us, could not argue with our doctor about our need for an MRI or a new medication, or even an operation. Sure, we can get another opinion, but on what basis do we decide? We are simply ignorant of what is the best course of medicine for us. The need for an attorney is similar, in that we don't understand the nuances of the law in most cases, and need professional advice to help us through the maze of a lawsuit or real estate transaction.

Moreover, free market principles caused our latest financial breakdown, where the Government regulations or watchdogs were not sufficient enough, including Freddie and Fannie, to stave off the country nearly going over the cliff. But the market made tons of money, didn't it?

Market forces are powerful, but they are not kind, not respectful of stability, and when ultimately unfettered, are not good for the country.

"The problem arises when government bureaucrats or expert panels are in the position of judging quality, performance, and best practices which get applied across a broad and diverse population." - who do you think decides now? It is the expert panels that decide the generally accepted practices for physicians regarding specific maladies. Someone puts some sense and standardization to our medical practices now. It is not a National standard, but is a hodge podge of State Boards. Bringing them all together under one central expertise makes sense and will save money in the long run providing better care for everyone.

But - if you want you can always buy more medical care, if you think you are special.

Doorgunner| 5.13.10 @ 8:57AM

Your first paragraph completely misses the point.

Your second paragraph is a bare-faced lie; or worse, a display of stunning ignorance.

Your third paragraph is misdirection.

Your fourth paragraph is a contradiction of the values you puport to be espousing.

And your fifth is a bit of snark worthy of an intellect just short of Maureen Dowd; that makes you ready to get beat up on the playground.

The patient makes his 'market decisons' based on information provided by a primary care-giver, and, if he deems necessary, second opinions obtained by himself, or a guardian if need be, on the open market. You need not "argue with [y]our doctor" about a need to for an MRI, you, and your doctor need options about where to obtain that MRI on a cost-effective basis. Mandates are never cost-effective.

Under-regualtion was not the cause of our recent "financial breakdown"; lenders writing bad notes because they had a guaranteed market for them, Fannie and Freddie was the root cause. That market was provided by our Federal governors, those you want hand even more power.

No one, not of any authority certainly, has proposed "unfettered" markets. Please provide something to substantiate that misdirection if I'm wrong.

So, you think placing care-giving policy-making even farther from the patient is a good idea. Thank you, Dr. Orwellion. I guess it's not a village, but a thousand-mile-away-bureaucrat that's needed to raise a child now.

And yes, I do think I'm special. And I think you're an ass.

zaniac| 5.13.10 @ 12:47PM

Well spoken, Doorgunner!

ZerObama| 5.13.10 @ 5:50PM

Purpleturd doesn't care if ObamaCare will be shoddy, inferior and heartless for ordinary Americans; the troll's already been assured of excellent medical care by his/her boss, G. Soros.

Purpleturd's betrayal has come cheap; Judas held out for more.

Tim*| 5.13.10 @ 9:14AM

Professor Purplepuss says , " But the market made tons of money, didn't it? "
Didn't ya get the memo Professor ?
The Market lost trillions .
Some Market Makers and Investment Dudes Did.
Aaaand , much of those Trillions were Market Valuations , like Real Estate Valuations.

Next !

Purpleguy| 5.13.10 @ 9:28PM

Okay "Market Makers" or Wall Street? Does that make you feel better? Either way, the removal of regulations allowed those sons of bitches to almost push us off the cliff, in the interest of the "Free Market" - as if there is such a thing. If you believe that, you've been smoking something tooooo long.

Tim*| 5.14.10 @ 3:26AM

Do your homework .
The SEC ,The Fed and Congress failed to do their job & The SEC & Congress failed to " REGULATE " and Congress failed to step in on FNMA & FHLMC after repeated warnings and pleas to do so.
Aaaand , look at the Robert Rubin , Lloyd Bentsen revisions to The CRA

Jamie| 5.14.10 @ 4:47AM

Purplegay is a Fannie/Freddie kind of guy.

Tom| 5.14.10 @ 5:58AM

It was not removal of regulations it was deliberate government policy to drive home ownership rates ever higher in the pursuit of social equity that led to the financial meltdown. The bad loans are never made in a functioning market because the risk was too high. Both implicit and explicit threats from regulators upon banks drove this market; artificially low interests rates fed the bubble. Fanny and Freddy and their implicit government backing led the way. The meltdown was very much the logical if unseen conclusion to government failed government regulations not the result of lack of regulations.

Purpleguy| 5.14.10 @ 7:54AM

Sure there were bad loans, but that WAS not the main reason for the meltdown. We wouldn't have had nearly the problem, had individual loans not been sold by the originating lender, and they had kept some responsibility for the loan on THEIR books - by enabling the passing of risk of the loan to others, they had less incentive to only make good loans. Instead they packaged and sliced and diced the loans to create the shadowy derivatives market, that are UNREGULATED, opaque, and 69 Trillion dollars at risk, while Wall Street and the Big Banks were leveraged way beyond what was prudent. Smaller, community banks did not have the same problems most of the big banks and big investment firms did. Remember, Lehman Brothers, Bear-Stearns, Merrill Lynch are all gone, and Goldman-Sachs and Morgan Stanley are now bank holding companies.

Watch "House of Cards" by David Faber, on CNBC, sometime if you don't believe me. Or get his book. It is clear that unbridled greed caused the meltdown. The poor people that were stuck with the sub-prime loans were victims as much as anyone. They did take the loans, but they didn't cause the meltdown.

That is why we need solid financial reform and re-regulation of the system, including regulation of the shadow markets so everything is visible and on the up and up.

I know you want to blame the Government for all the ills in your life, but kids it's both. Lack of Government regulation AND unfettered free enterprise, which leads to GREED run amok. The 1920's showed us what over-leveraging can cause, and we did it to ourselves again. We repeated history, but we did it in new and fanciful ways with new & complicated market instruments, with Government's help, ignorance and dereliction of their duty. But, GREED on all sides caused it, and we need to put circuit breakers and walls in place to stop it from EVER happening again.

And, btw, by instituting Free Market Obamacare, the Healthcare industry will have brakes and stoppers placed on the unbridled growth of medical costs, again GREED in the name of service to the masses run amok. You should all read T.R. Reid's book "On Healthcare" ... you'll learn something.

Missy| 5.14.10 @ 12:25PM

Your BS isn't working, troll. Are you so stupidly blinded by your own Marxist ideology that you can't see?

You're all a bunch of lying, thieving Communists, and we're not buying the garbage you're selling.
Obama's Progressives = Crime, Inc.

America has rejected you and your ilk and you're going DOWN.
There are more of US than there are of YOU; the numbers are on OUR side.

Purpleguy| 5.14.10 @ 3:07PM

I am neither Marxist nor Communist. I suspect you don't know the difference.

I believe in Capitalism with Government oversight. That's it, plain and simple. Name calling may make you feel better, but it really isn't attractive, especially on a woman. I'd call you a lady, but, ya know.

Nick| 5.14.10 @ 3:44PM

Are you really complaining about name calling again, PurpleJackass?

You are such a hypocrite!
Take note of the correct spelling of "hypocrite", moron.

Purpleguy| 5.15.10 @ 10:30AM

If that's all you got, go for it... if it makes you feel better. It just makes you sound stupid and petty, without an intelligent thought or reflection on politics, government, history, science, or you name it. If you think that helps your cause, by all means, continue.

Nick| 5.15.10 @ 10:44AM

No, Useful Idiots, like yourself, help the conservative cause more than you can know, PurpleJackass.

Missy| 5.14.10 @ 4:03PM

Who said I'm a 'lady'? maybe I'm just a prissy boy like you, Purplegay. I'm sure you can relate.

You call it Government "oversight" which is just a euphemism for Collectivism; I call it Progressive Marxism, which is the truth. You're just another hackneyed wealth redistributionist, Liberal Screeder, and Americans have rejected your dark and despairing vision of life. We're so OVER you and your (brain) dead ideology. FAIL!

Either way, you and your crappy commie friends are on your way out, moron.

Purpleguy| 5.14.10 @ 4:35PM

You're an idiot. But you're entitled to be an idiot... you're Government guarantees your right to say what you will. No one but the Government gives you that right. It is not a right that falls out of the air, and I might add, most Governments around the world DO NOT give you that right. Nor many others the Government GIVES you.

Yours is an ideology of Social Darwinism, pollution and disease, in the dog-eat-dog world of the extremely wealthy and connected, alongside the poor and dejected slobs like you that have to eke out a living on a meager salary, with no benefits (Unions made that happen), martial law (because we have to be afraid of every neighbor), and Big Brother telling you who you can marry, how many children you can have and where you can live. (Terry Schiavo, anyone). Where every little boy is subjected to his "Daddy", Mark Foley, anyone?

Kinda like China, as a matter of fact, come to think of it ... Hmmm, who are the Communists, dearie?

Nobama| 5.14.10 @ 5:07PM

Screw you, Screeder. My rights come from God, not the stinkin' government.

Arrogant loser. America's already rejected your garbage ideology and you're too stupid to realize it. Just wait.

Eric(OfConservativeMind)| 5.17.10 @ 3:52AM

The government does not give us rights. The fundamental rights given to us by God were purported to be protected by our government when it was established. Since you seem to reject God, I can't help but understand that your ideology follows.

About Social Darwinism... I believe you have the facts mixed up. Generally, conservative Christians like me don't buy into that sort of tripe. Social Darwinism is only supported by a mindset that rejects the establishment of civil society and seeks to change it through the Hegelian dialectic process. It is the socialists/statists in our society that are bringing about rapid societal change, but you seem to reject this.

Unions alone did not make "benefits" happen, because companies and unions developed the concept of benefits during WWII when pay was capped and said companies wanted to find ways to entice people into work. Unions generally solidify guarantees of said benefits because they force companies to enter into contracts which usually include yearly pay raises, health care insurance options and the like. The U.S. has been and currently subsidizes insurance through companies like this, and this is a flawed practice that must be stopped. The new HCR legislation doesn't change this, but forces companies and individuals to comply with a new mandate in the flawed system so we can all reap the benefits of increased premiums... Yay! I'm not in favor of single-payer either, though some individuals seem to suggest the conservative mindset would support it because it would be more amenable to crap we already have in place like Medicare. Government-run health care can only cut costs through rationing, thus the elderly and the very sick are those most abused by the government system.... Look at the new boss, same as the old boss.... The exchanges in the plan sound interesting in themselves, but they will be heavily regulated by the U.S. government and therefore perhaps unsuccessful. We shall see.

I don't know about the martial law statement. God-fearing, law abiding citizens generally don't have to fear for much inside the confines of the civil society. It is the society engineering Statists within and without our government that seek to abolish the civil society and bring chaos to the United States on the order of "transforming" our society. New Age Racism, abortions, euthanasia, these are all the relics of increasing societal agitation brought about by socialists/statists. The statists in our society play the populace against itself through factions divided by race, religion, etc. The second bill of rights proposed by FDR is a Statist dream, which can only be accomplished by a much more socialistic society. Not unlike communism the government must have control over the individual to make such dreams possible.

You're the one who seems to embrace this ideology. You're on board with Obama, and that makes me question your stated "Centrism." He is not pragmatic because he is a demagogic statist ideologue, and the statist only knows that the government must be the agent in the "perfection" of society.

Not that a society can be perfected, but the statist will demand that individuals subjugate themselves to the system bit by bit so that they may enjoy the benefits of "social justice."

Your Centrist views do not moderate between liberal and conservative for you are a new breed, a Communitarian. Claim it, and embrace your "Third Way."

BozObammy| 5.21.10 @ 2:42PM

The clown's a Marxist, straight up; the loser just won't admit it.

Indiana Alex| 5.13.10 @ 9:21AM

I understand that liberals have a hard time with relatively easy concepts, but try this one on for size.

Currently, your Dr. tells you that you need an MRI and tells you where to go to get it. Since you pay nothing you don't bother to ask how much an MRI costs at that particular place.

In a market oriented approach, where you are spending your money, you call around to find the cheapest place to get an MRI (or Dr.'s appt for that matter).

In your perfect world of Obamacare, the Dr. gives you some pain meds and tells you to go home because the medical device companies have been taxed out of existence and there are no more MRIs.

And of course you could look to Greece where they are being advised to get the government out of health care, but of course lefties always assume that it's not the government's involvement that's wrong, it's just that in the past several hundred centuries, no government has done it "right".

Purpleguy| 5.14.10 @ 4:43PM

"In a market oriented approach, where you are spending your money, you call around to find the cheapest place to get an MRI (or Dr.'s appt for that matter). " - Really? You're sick or injured and you're going to do that? What horsepucky. Maybe for a physical or some other kind of elective checkup, yes.

You might like to THINK you would do that, but in reality, even 20% copays are outrageous nowadays, and yet the cost of medical care goes up and up. If that hasn't made people "look around", what makes you think they ever will?

If medical care was completely free, well, then maybe, but it's not, and it won't be with Obamacare - which by the way is a lot more "Market force" driven than you give him credit for. But that's your way - it's my way or the highway.

Thus it has always been, but GW Bush was just stupid enough NOT to keep that little secret sugar plum from the public at large.

Nobama| 5.14.10 @ 7:43PM

The jig is up, Purpletard. You Marxist scoundrels have been found out by the American people and soon you'll be just another bad memory in the ash heap of American history.

Can't wait save the date: November 2, 2010.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Becky| 5.13.10 @ 9:25AM

I suppose just like everyone can buy a truck. If you have to pay for government approved health insurance that will not pay for what you want and you are stretched to pay for the insurance, where does the extra money come from to buy the additional medical care?

Everyone who is facing a medical crisis thinks they are special. It is a healthy response of fighting for life.

Tom| 5.13.10 @ 9:49AM

Our financial markets are un-regulated? Since when?
Much of the effort to find new exotic securities was a direct consequence of regulation. The problem is not lack or regulation it is regulation that ignores unseen consequences. The fault lies in responding to events without stopping to think.

Purpleguy| 5.14.10 @ 4:45PM

And, where have you been, Rip Van Winkel? Even the God of Free Market BS, Alan Greenspan admitted the fallacy of believing in the "Free Market" to correctly control itself.

Nobama| 5.14.10 @ 5:03PM

The Free Market works fine when you Marxist thieves keep your hands off of it.

Purpleguy| 5.15.10 @ 10:27AM

Go learn something. Go read Alan Greenspan's book, troll. You have no idea what a Marxist is, do you?

Nobama| 5.15.10 @ 8:56PM

YOU!

wbheff| 5.13.10 @ 10:45AM

You write, "The need for an attorney is similar, in that we don't understand the nuances of the law in most cases, and need professional advice to help us through the maze of a lawsuit or real estate transaction. Whom do you think it was that wrote those complicated, ill-written, deliberately confusing laws? It was lawyers, of course.

Purpleguy| 5.14.10 @ 4:45PM

Thank you for providing more evidence for my point!

BozObama| 5.14.10 @ 7:44PM

The point on your head, moron?

Purpleguy| 5.15.10 @ 10:26AM

Oooh, another brilliant repartee....

BozObama| 5.15.10 @ 8:55PM

You know very well you're sensitive about the shape of your head--with good reason, I might add.

1FreeMan| 5.13.10 @ 11:09AM

Pay no attention to the purple idiot. He just started posting here this last week and is s liberal shill posting lies and misinformation to push his politics. He is a troll, nothing else.

Purpleguy| 5.14.10 @ 4:47PM

Calling me names isn't working, Genius. Maybe if you try to refute my arguments, someone might listen to you ... elsewise you're just whistling in the wind. Or was that passing wind... ?

Nobama| 5.14.10 @ 5:02PM

You don't have an argument, moron; all you offer is one lie after another.

Why wrestle with a skunk like you? We'll just end up stinking like you!

Nick| 5.14.10 @ 5:02PM

Oh yes it is, Einstein!

Everyone knows what an ignorant fool you are, PurpleJackass.

Jobe| 5.13.10 @ 11:09AM

Wow! I hope you (Purple Guy) are joking with us. What about repair of our automobiles? Doesn't that call for expertise which the ordinary person does not have? And how about repair of mechanical home aparati? Can you fix a furnace? Can you rebuild an electric motor? And why am I seeing adds for law firms and individual attorneys on TV at all hours of the day and night? Your thesis that there will be no competition in health care and its associated industries is hilariously wrong. And your assertion that "free market principles caused our latest financial breakdown" is absurd. Amping up the Community Reinvestment Act by threatening Federal investigation and prosecution of financial entities which refused to lend mortgage money to people who OBVIOUSLY would not be able to repay was one of the major causes of the financial meltdown. If government had stuck to its original role of policing illegalities in the financial industry instead of entering into it without the expertise for the job, we would not be where we are today. If, when awards to people like the clients of John Edwards had been capped, tort reform had been instituted, and government had stayed in the arena for which it was designed, we would have a different scenario today. Your mistake is the typical liberal foolishness - to whit, engaging the cause to try to become the solution. It hasn't worked before and will not work now.

Purpleguy| 5.14.10 @ 4:58PM

Historically, the controls placed on the financial industry coming out of the Great Depression provided a stable financial system for us for almost 80 years. Of course, money men chafed at the rules and regulation. So what? It was only after Reagan was elected that we started dismantling the safety provisions given us by FDR. The dismantling continued until the final blow of recinding Glass-Steagle in the Clinton Admin, a move President Clinton now regrets. Prior to the 1990's the financial industry was approx. 10% of our economy; in 2007 it was near 50% of the economy. And, since the financial industry doesn't make anything, we have lost manufacturing and are losing the ability to make "things" that we and the world needs. Who needs another Credit Default Swap? It's a House of Cards that was built on the Greed and Selfishness of Wall Street and the Big Banks.

Yes, the Government had a hand in the breakdown in 2008, but the biggest change, and the most responsible action that the Government is to blame for in this crisis is the lack of regulation and the holding back of the Free Enterprise, Laissez Faire, un-bridled Greed of the last 15 years or so.

There is lots of blame to go around - homeowners signing up for loans they couldn't afford and individuals borrowing on credit to the hilt, for sure have a piece of this. But it was the Big Boys that know better - Wall Street, Big Banks, the Fed and the Government that failed us all.

We must re-regulate the whole damn thing to get back on an even keel. Too bad all the people that remember the financial crisis in the 1920's and 1930's are dead now - Apparently their collective wisdom went with them to the grave.

Nick| 5.14.10 @ 5:00PM

Have you learned how to do simple math yet, PurpleJackass?

Or do you still think President Bush was in office for TEN months when the attacks of September 11th, 2001, occured? Dope.

Purpleguy| 5.14.10 @ 9:05PM

Can't argue with facts, is that it, little man. Maybe you're looking for a good rogering. Some reason you obsess over me.

Nick| 5.15.10 @ 12:27AM

You are projecting again, PurpleJackass.

Nobama| 5.15.10 @ 2:23AM

That was an unpleasant thing to say to Nick, little purple-pervert commie. You're probably ugly as sin with the social skills of a rodent. I take that back--rats are nicer and more agreeable than you.

Purpleguy| 5.15.10 @ 6:44PM

You want nice, give nice.
I put up with a ton of Marxist, Commie bullshit from some of you, and got tired of it. As if you are the only people that can swear and name-call. Or that YOU are the only real Americans. It's childish and silly, but if you wanna give it out, then you should be able to take it too. Back off to civil discourse, and I will too.

We can certainly have different points of view without tearing each other down, can't we? We'll see - don't take this plea as weakness, because if you don't stop, neither shall I. You will get as good as you give. And, probably more.

Nick| 5.15.10 @ 11:41PM

Oh.....NOW PurpleJackass wants to make nice.
What a joke!

Is it because you have embarrassed yourself so many times, twit?

You were nasty and called names the first time you showed up here.

Missy| 5.16.10 @ 3:48AM

You are our mortal enemy, moron; this is a death-match not a birthday party.

We know exactly who and what you and your Marxist cohorts are--a threat to our liberty, our beloved American way of life.

And I promise you, we will beat you because we know that a life without liberty is no life at all and you have forced us to acknowledge we have nothing to lose, slimeball.

Nick| 5.16.10 @ 11:24AM

Amen, Missy!

Excellent, just excellent. Keep it up!

Nobama| 5.14.10 @ 7:47PM

Sure, we'll let the "wolves" regulate the chickens.

Who will "regulate" the corruptocrat Leftists in Big government?

Purpleguy| 5.14.10 @ 9:06PM

The people, you ditz. It's called an election.

Nobama| 5.15.10 @ 2:14AM

You finally admitted that you're a bunch of corruptocrat Leftists; now if we can just get BozObama to tell the truth, we'll own this friggin' country!

Elections, indeed--if you crappy Marxists don't destroy them first, ACORN boy.

Purpleguy| 5.15.10 @ 10:24AM

The PEOPLE sent your sorry ass Republican child molesters and prostitute lovers back running with their tail between their legs in 2006 and 2008 didn't they? Fascist warmongers.

Nick| 5.15.10 @ 10:42AM

"If you want to debate, bring some content, the ad hominem attacks are tiresome for me and all of us on the site."
- PurpleJackass, 4 minutes before he wrote the above claptrap!

Purpleguy| 5.15.10 @ 6:38PM

So you finally accept what you are ... too funny.

Nick| 5.15.10 @ 11:34PM

I'm sorry, PurpleJackass, I forgot that irony was a concept not understood by those who haven't reached high school yet.

Missy| 5.16.10 @ 3:51AM

LOL! Good one, Nick. Stupid fascist liberal troll, thy name is hypocrite.

breffnian| 5.13.10 @ 2:05PM

I'm a physician and I think you are wrong. Most medical issues are pretty simple and understandable by people with a high school education. With so much information available through the internet there is no excuse for ignorance. Most life decisions like career, house, finding a mate, schools for kids are harder but we don't surrender them to government. We spend hours on line obsessing over the details of our next consumer purchase but don't even question our doctors about our medical care? That's crazy. I think people are smarter than that. I would love to have patients who with sit with me and work out cost-effective answers to their problems instead of sitting like dumb rocks swallowing whatever we tell them. But they don't pay for anything and so have no incentive to ask questions and therefore we have no incentive to practice cost-effective medicine.

I trained in single payer (Ireland) and it is a bureaucracy that robs people of their human dignity. Now I work in the US. You have the most productive, innovative and best medical system in the world. Don't destroy it to correct "crises" invented by liberals. Figure out the cost issues, extend coverage to those need it and leave the rest alone.

Missy| 5.13.10 @ 5:40PM

Thanks for your post, breffnian, but this isn't about health care, it's about power and control. The Obama Progressives/Marxists now in power want total control.

Purpleguy| 5.15.10 @ 10:22AM

How nice you are ... very attractive. No debate, just put downs.

Missy| 5.16.10 @ 3:53AM

I know Liberals like you abhor truth like vampires abhor the light but that's the breaks, moron.

Purpleguy| 5.14.10 @ 5:06PM

It's not that people are dumb, although when a doctor starts spouting medical terminology, even the brightest can feel stupid. If you are a doctor, and I have no reason to doubt it, then tell me this. How many minutes do you spend with the average patient? 10? 15? It can't be more than that, can it? How is someone supposed to weigh the medical issues and see multiple physicians (which is extra cost in itself) to find the cheapest procedure? That just doesn't happen.

If you don't have any money and no insurance, what did people do back when that was the case? They did without, didn't they? And, they died much younger of preventable or treatable disease.

The trouble is, along with better access to health care and a longer life has come the bill to pay for that better care and healthier life.

Tell me, who is going to regulate the cost of medical care? Insurance companies controlled their costs by throwing people off insurance when they got sick, or not insuring them in the first place.

How should it be done? Do you want your medical care to have the same consequences as your financial position - in the hands of the free market? Please tell me y'all are smarter than that.

Nobama| 5.14.10 @ 7:49PM

Who are you, a common Leftist hack, to preach to a physician about medical care? There is no limit to the arrogance and stupidity of your average Progressive/Marxist.

Nobody asked you, moron.

Purpleguy| 5.14.10 @ 9:03PM

Why do you insist on trying to curtail my free speech? Are you a fascist, Nazi, right-wing, ahole that wants to dictate to the world to do everything your way? Why else would you want to cut off debate and free speech? You sir, are no Conservative. I know Conservatives, and you are no Conservative! Have a nice day!

Nick| 5.15.10 @ 12:26AM

You always look stupid, no matter who is commenting, PurpleJackass.

Nobama| 5.15.10 @ 2:34AM

Curtail your free speech? You're kidding, right?
Nothing could shut up a huge, fat-mouthed blowhard like you. You've got more hot gas in you than a Hot-Air balloon.

Still goose-stepping in circles in your step-mom's basement, Liberal Screeder? Surely, by now, you've broken in those shiny new jackboots Axelrod gave you; you've certainly worn out all of your Obama knee-pads by now. Guess not, brown-noser boy. haha

Purpleguy| 5.15.10 @ 10:20AM

Nothing intelligent to say, is that it? Have to say something though, huh? If you want to debate, bring some content, the ad hominem attacks are tiresome for me and all of us on the site. Let's get some real dialog going, not the high-school pap you promote.

Missy| 5.16.10 @ 3:56AM

...Says the troll who used 'ahole'. Nice dialogue, fool.

Eric(OfConservativeMind)| 5.17.10 @ 4:12AM

All this tripe about the "free" market. A government-free market hasn't existed in this country, ever. I point to an earlier comment about policing illegalities in the system.

I have to admit to you that I agree the health insurance model is a horrible one because the customer generally doesn't review cost vs. benefit, and that market forces driving prices are imperfect at best. Personally, with almost no expertise when it comes to medical care, I must look to others for answers and advice. There are a lot of talking heads out there, but seemingly the more rational ones are telling us to think and worry about the future of our country and our medical care.

The costs of our current entitlements and other care are driving us into a VERY deep debt as a nation, the future outlays for which are going to cost us some pretty cool trillions. Obama et al told us that this new bill would lower the deficit, but the math of adding people to a broken system and claiming to lower costs doesn't match... Unless we start rationing care, fast.

What is your proposition?

JimE| 5.13.10 @ 6:16PM

Pay no mind to purpletroll and his obama jibberish. His degree is in scatology.

Stephie| 5.13.10 @ 8:51AM

Purpleguy, why do you hate America?

Indiana Alex| 5.13.10 @ 9:24AM

I really appreciate these useful idiots posting here. It gives us more insight into why there conclusions have been wrong throughout history.

Purpleguy| 5.14.10 @ 9:07PM

Why are you so stupid?

Nobama| 5.15.10 @ 2:35AM

Pot call kettle.

Purpleguy| 5.15.10 @ 10:18AM

Ditto...

Missy| 5.16.10 @ 3:58AM

More of the troll's intelligent dialogue on display.

Tim*| 5.13.10 @ 9:19AM

Stephie , apparently he craves negative attention ,because he can't get enough positive attention & he's got nothin' better to do , & it keeps him out of his wife's hair.

He's harmless .

Stan Redmond| 5.13.10 @ 10:40AM

The following quote will eliminate the need for urologiests because it scares the piss out of me.

"(T)he Holy Grail of universal coverage in the United States may remain out of reach unless, through rational collective action overriding some individual self-interest, we can reduce per capita costs,"

Pete| 5.13.10 @ 10:56AM

"rational collective action" - as dictated by your Ivy league masters who know better what is good for you than you do. Oh the bliss.

Doesn't sound like freedom to me.

pugsley | 5.13.10 @ 4:15PM

If 300-400 of these Ivy League masters were hung from lamp posts on the roads leading into DC do you think the rest of the rats would get our point? Just asking.

Eric(OfConservativeMind)| 5.13.10 @ 4:35PM

Unfortunately, that is an obviously amoral approach to the problem. I submit that those "Ivy League masters" submit themselves to the medical care decisions of 2000 randomly selected lawyers that passed their BAR within the last year. That should clear things up for them.

Missy| 5.13.10 @ 5:28PM

No more amoral than what they're planning for us, and they started it.

Yosemeti Sam| 5.13.10 @ 11:06AM

" Obama's Rationing Man ...."

Where does BHO dig up these ghoulish ogres?

KyMouse| 5.13.10 @ 11:56AM

I've been watching the old British miniseries "Dr. Finlay," courtesy of Netflix, and have been bemused to see the debate about their health service included in its dialog. Set at the end of WWII, the show centers on village physician Dr. Finlay, who is looking forward to the National Health Service.

His fellow physicians believe that the system will make them employees of the government, that care will be overseen by bureaucrats, and that patients and physicians will pay a huge price for it all, in more ways than one. Finlay sees NHS as the way to provide care to everyone, no matter their income or status. The series, based on books by physician author A. J. Cronin ("The Citadel"), seems to want us to take Finlay's side against his reactionary, progress-fearing colleagues.

I wonder what Cronin would think today.

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US Senate Briefing, May 13, 2010 | Liberty Pundits Blog links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…drive such transactions overseas. From the Communications Center McConnell on Supreme Court Nominee Elena Kagan Around the Hill The Wall Street Journal: Voters Shifting to GOP, Poll Finds Philip Klein: Obama’s Rationing Man Politico: GOP: Medicare pick favors ‘rationing’ McClatchy: McConnell questions Kagan’s independence from Obama administration CBS News: Buffalo to Obama: “I Need a…

Tony in Central PA| 5.13.10 @ 12:22PM

Only now we are hearing about rationing. The opponents of this HCR legislation hardly made a peep about it before it passed. Draconian rationing is the only possible way this plan could save a nickel over the flawed system we already had.

I got a good snort a few days ago when this President was quoted complaining about the all of the electronic distractions that preoccupy a large segment of our society these days. How does this guy think he got elected ? Does he think a bunch of well - informed, deep - thinkers weighed the details of his proposed policies and his prior accomplishments to put him over the top ? No, they voted for the Cool Guy that Hollywood wanted. His M.O. for getting legislation through also seems to absolutely depend on a distracted population.

Joe D| 5.13.10 @ 12:29PM

Two things: First, we already have Socialist medicine. Or doesn't everyone realise that when one customer is responsible for 47% of the dollars sent, that he makes the rules. We need to get government out altogether.

Second, please send Berwick to England where he can get that wonderful care.

Anonymous| 5.13.10 @ 1:31PM

Only brain-dead left/libtards with no heart believe you can reduce heathcare costs by cutting a budget or want to force people to conform to that.

Nobama| 5.13.10 @ 5:35PM

Democrats--the party of SLAVERY, SEGREGATION, SODOMY AND SEDITION.

Purpleguy| 5.13.10 @ 9:24PM

You are slightly warped and history challenged. SLAVERY- was a Conservative view, put in the Constitution by the Conservative South,who fought to keep it in place in the Civil War. And, where are most Republicans now? In the South, of course. SEGREGATION - Hmmm, need I say more, Jim Crow laws anyone? SODOMY - Rep. Mark Foley, anyone? Ted Haggart anyone? Sen. Larry Craig anyone? SEDITION - The first traitor to our Government was Benedict Arnold, who sided with the British in the Revolutionary War, the Conservative position.

So basically, you're full of horsepocky, Nobraina...

Nobama| 5.14.10 @ 5:01AM

Nice try re-writing history, Purpleturd! You Demos were loving yourselves lots of slavery, lynching and segregation in the South until we Repubs made you stop. No wonder you feel so much guilt, liberal bigot.
Sodomy? You're specialists! NAMBLA and Barney Fwank keep you well-oiled and ready!

Sedition is where you Progressive/Marxists truly shine, though: From American-Communist traitors Julius and Ethel Rosenberg to Viet-Cong Jane and domestic terrorist extraordinaire, Bill Ayers (Obammy's good buddy and mentor!) you do your liberal damnedest to subvert our country.

Thanks for all you do, Commie MoFo.

1FreeMan| 5.14.10 @ 8:59AM

Nobama, YOU ROCK!

Purple idiot, stop falsifying history. You are not the intelectual you think you are. Time to get a new "magic mirror". The one you have is telling you lies.

Nobama| 5.14.10 @ 12:39PM

You're the MAN, 1FreeMan!

Last year you gave me hope when I was drowning in despair--you turned me on to the OathKeepers. I've never looked back.

Thank you for your comforting words then and thank you for your service now; you are a true patriot!

Purpleguy| 5.14.10 @ 2:58PM

Nice try .... but you are wrong. If you need citations since you are not well read, let me know - i'll be happy to comply - if you agree to read them. Not news orgs, but actual scholarly works by well known respected historians.

First go read what the divisions were between the Colonies and what was the main stickler to the signing of the Constitution. The 2 main arguments were the small states being afraid of the power of the bigger states - ergo the Senate came about to provide 2 Senators for each state. The second argument was over Slavery in the United States. They eventually compromised and allowed the language of "3/5 persons" to be allowed, without specifically naming the word Slavery.

Obviously, Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, but that Republican party bears no resemblance to today's Republican Party. Party affiliations have shifted many times in our history.

The Republicans of today's South were the Democrats of pre-1965. If you all knew you're history you'd know that. Prior to 1965, the Democratic party had a lock on the South, and yes, were segregationist, but with the Johnson Administration passage of Voting Rights and Civil Rights acts of 1964 and 1965, the Democrat South jumped to the Republican Party. Nixon called it his "Southern" Strategy, and Johnson said at the time "There goes the South" ... knowing the the White South would switch parties, they did and here we are.

As far as Sodomy, if you aren't aware of all the hypocrisy on the Republican Conservative side, where they preach family values while at the same time cheating on the wives by screwing little boys and young men and lying about it, you aren't paying attention. Sure Democrats do it too, I'm sure, but they're not preaching how much holier than thou they are, like the Conservative sex fiends while shtuping their boyfriends.

Sedition is an interesting case, since there is no such thing in the United States. In any case, I'm not sure you would call Timothy McVeigh a Democrat, he would be closer to a Tea Bagger or Anarchist, wouldn't you agree? Surely, closer to the Conservative cause, hmmm? And, he murdered way more Americans then anyone on the left ever tried, up until the Conservative Osama Bin Laden. Talk about Sedition.

So you see, your worldview has been carefully indoctrinated so the people that have power or want power and how they can maintain power while giving you misdirection and a Bogie man to blame all your problems on. That really borders on the techiques that Hitler used before he came to power.

Don't you find it interesting that the very people that tell you the Government is bad, bad, bad, are always first in line to be part of the Government? Ever wonder why that is? Surely you can see behind the curtain, can you not? Oh, and you can throw the Tea Baggers in there too - not all of them, just the organizers who are making a killing off of all the sell you. Case in point is Sarah "I can see my house from Russia" Palin making $100,000 a pop for a speech and banking 12 Million for her first book. Surprise! There's another book deal coming... and what about the Millionaires Rush and Beck? Of course they want low taxes, they are in the top 1%. But you are not. They have y'all so hornswoggled and hogtied you don't even know it.

Any Questions?

Have a nice day !

Nick| 5.14.10 @ 3:42PM

Have you learned how to do simple math yet, PurpleJackass?

Or, do you still think President Bush was in office for TEN months when the attacks of September 11th, 2001, occured, brainiac?

Purpleguy| 5.14.10 @ 9:00PM

Ever hear of the Transition Time from one President to the President-elect, Einstein? Bush was warned for more than 10 months about Al Qaeda before 9/11, and did nothing. Don't change the subject or try to misdirect. Stay on topic, you can do it. Only a retard would keep repeating himself.

Nick| 5.15.10 @ 12:24AM

No he wasn't, PurpleJackass.

Nick| 5.15.10 @ 12:59AM

Also, there was no "Transition Time", Einstein.
Because algore tried to steal the election, remember dope?

Whoever told you this would make a good comeback against me, is as stupid as you are.

And when the attacks occured, President Bush was still trying to get nominees confirmed, thanks to stinking democrats blocking them all summer long.

Not to mention the way Bubba the pervert destroyed our defense and intelligence capabilities for eight years.

Purpleguy| 5.15.10 @ 9:40AM

"Also, there was no "Transition Time", Einstein.
Because algore tried to steal the election, remember dope?" - Hmmm, let's see, Al Gore conceded the election in December, and Bush was sworn in on Jan 20th. I think in most places in the universe, that's 1 month, but maybe not in your little mind. Add the 9 months in office and voila, you have 10 months. His transition team was working the whole time, remember Dick Cheney, transition leader? Wow, funny how math works, isn't it?

"Not to mention the way Bubba the pervert destroyed our defense and intelligence capabilities for eight years. " - This is too funny. HW Bush started the so-called dismantling of the defense and intelligence capabilities, calling it our "peace dividend" from the collapse of the Soviet Union. Now, don't tell me you think that Clinton ended the Cold War too, will you? And, who was his Secretary of Defense? Wait for it, wait for it - that;s right! Dick Cheney... wow he's been involved in one Republican fuck-up after another. What a guy, huh? Go learn something.

Nick| 5.15.10 @ 9:57AM

After several attempts, you still are unable to do the math of an eight year old, PurpleJackass.

January 20th to Septempber 11th adds up to SEVEN AND A HALF months, brainiac. And, the NIE about al Qeada was delivered in August, when President Bush was still trying to get nominees confirmed. Thanks to stupid democrats who were holding them up for purely political reasons, and helped to kill 3,000 of their fellow Americans.

That makes you partially responsible for their deaths, also, PurpleJackass. Since you, and your ilk, voted for them.

You must work really hard at being this stupid, huh?

Purpleguy| 5.15.10 @ 10:16AM

Well, if you simply count Jan 20th to Sept 11 that is actually 8 full months, Braniac ... Add to that November and December when the President- Elect or soon to be President-Elect (both, since Florida was fucked up) are given security briefings, that would make 10 months, now wouldn't it, dumbshit?
Ever hear of Richard Clarke, Einstein? If you try reading for a change, he tells you what Clinton did and didn't do, what Bush did and didn't do in his book "Against All Enemies". Now Clinton could have done more sure, but you are denying that Bush has any responsiblity for 9/11 and that's just a lie. Dinny Dimwit ignored all warnings and was concentrated on Iraq, "for attacking my Daddy". That is corroborated (you understand that term don't you?) by Secretary of the Treasury at the time, Paul O'Neill. Whoops, there goes that Fact thing again.... Go look this information up, dittohead. See if you can refute it ... it is in the record by the people who were there, including people chosen by Bush to help him. Geesh. Go learn something and stop spouting your LIES and misdirections ...

Nick| 5.15.10 @ 10:34AM

You can't even SPELL "brainiac", Einstein!

How do you get 8 full months, dope?
If I were to be completely accurate, it is SEVEN months and 22 days. So, I was off by a week. You were off by over 2 months, moron.
Call it seven and two thirds months, okay?

It still doesn't take away from the democrat's complicity in the killing of 3,000 Americans, or your's, PurpleJackass.

Richard Clarke is a self-serving pinhead. All he has are assertions. And, Paul O'Neill was just mad because he got canned. There was no warning of the attacks of September 11th, 2001.

There could have been, if Gorelick hadn't erected her wall between the CIA and FBI. Or, if Bubba the pervert hadn't decimated our defense and intelligence capabilities. 9/11 was the fault of democrats and their supporters.

President Bush did the best he could, with what he was left with, which was not much.

Nobama| 5.15.10 @ 8:52PM

Screeder spews DNC Talking points BS about 9/11 much like the BS he spews about slavery--Republicans did it! Loser.

Sandy Berg(l)er, the Clinton stooge who stuffed National Archives classified documents on terrorism down his pants to protect his old boss, took the heat for Clinton's national security failures.

Try as you might, Screeder, your defense of the old pervert, Clinton, falls flat--we all know 9/11 was his fault.

Nobama| 5.15.10 @ 2:56AM

You dream this lie up all by your lonesome, libtard, or are you smoking crack with your buddies again?

Al Qaeda attacked us at least FOUR times when Clinton was POTUS and he did NOTHING about it, moron. In fact, Clinton refused to take custody of bin Laden when Sudan offered him to us numerous times. 9/11 was Clinton's fault and W had to pick up the pieces.

The only killing Clinton was good at was killing harmless American citizens at Waco.

Thank God fat-boy AlGore was unable to steal the 2000 election (your first ACORN election theft attempt), one of our major cities would still be a radioactive, smoldering pile of ruins.

BozObama's been lucky so far; depending on the incompetence of Islamic terrorists to save us isn't much of a national security strategy.

Purpleguy| 5.15.10 @ 9:50AM

Really? So as President for 9 months and warned repeatedly by the outgoing Clinton Administration before that, Bush just picked up the pieces. Hell, Condi Rice had her first meeting on Al Qaeda in September 2001, right before 9/11. Let's see, she was National Security Advisor, wasn't she? That was a good move, huh?

Oh, and BushBaby was given the PDB (you know what that is, right) on August 6th that said "Osama bin Laden determined to strike inside the US", but of course was immediately ignored, Georgie being on vacation at the time.

And, don't forget the treasured moment when Georgie Boy was told "America is under attack"... and continued to read "My Pet Goat" for 7 minutes while God knows what or who was attacking the United States.

Then, did Dubya do anything - he sure did, he hopped in his plane and fled to safety, leaving the rest of us to fend for ourselves, like the coward he is. Don't you think he had some responsibilities besides his own sorry ass?

9/11 happened on his watch and there's no getting around it. Blame everyone on earth if you want, but it was GW Bush and his policies that allowed it to occur. Clinton has some blame of course, but Presidents all the way back to Reagan do to0, when he helped supply the Mujaheddin in Afghanistan and trained what became Al Qaeda fighters, and Osama bin Laden. Reagan also got our servicemen blown up in Lebanon, from which he immediately retreated and did nothing else. That's when the slippery slope started, but it was Dubya that bears the most responsibility for letting it happen. Period, end of story. Anything else is a LIE.

Nick| 5.15.10 @ 10:20AM

"My Pet Goat?"

Are you really Paul "The Forehead" Begala, PurpleJackass?

As usual, you are unable to get simple facts straight.

The title of PDB memo was "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US." Anybody who paid attention to current events knew Usama wanted to attack inside the U.S., moron. The questions were "where" and "how."

The only paragraph about airplanes is this one:
"We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ---- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Sheikh" Omar Abdel Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists."

Nothing about flying airplanes into buildings. The same memo ends claiming Bin Ladin supporters were "in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives." That never happened, did it?

Purpleguy| 5.15.10 @ 11:33AM

And, so Bush waited until we were attacked, just like every other president that didn't imagine we could be attacked - except Clinton, and Bush wouldn't listen to Clinton advisors - so we were attacked. Yep, that's what we want in charge.

Nick| 5.15.10 @ 11:55AM

Bubba the pervert, and his administration, and congressional democrats, and their supporters are responsible for the attacks of September 11th, 2001, being successful.

Nick| 5.15.10 @ 12:01PM

You have blood on your hands, PurpleJackass.

Purpleguy| 5.15.10 @ 12:55PM

Not only did Bush allow 2800 Americans to be killed on 9/11, he compounded it by killing another 4000 WarFighters in Iraq for what has turned out to be a fantasy - that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11. You can't take it back, you can't deny it, it's history. Who's to blame, dittohead? You know, don't you ... ;-)

Nick| 5.15.10 @ 1:53PM

You stinking libs won't be satisfied until we all burn, will you?

You hate police officers, you call them "pigs."
You hate our warriors, you call them "baby killers."
You hate our country, you are helping the terrorists.
You hate God, you call sin good.

I know you are riddled with guilt because of your complicity with terrorists. Just beg for forgiveness, you will feel better, PurpleJackass.

Purpleguy| 5.15.10 @ 6:24PM

Dude - you have some serious psychological problems. You need some professional help. You sound ready to snap.

I have never said or thought any such thing as all that horrendous crap you just listed. Those words came out of your head, not mine.

Damn, and you call yourself an American. You are a full-time hater, man. There is no getting through to a mentally deranged psycho.

Get some help, man, you seriously need it ...

Nick| 5.15.10 @ 6:55PM

You're the liberal, not me, PurpleJackass.

I'm sure you hear many voices in your head.

I am a Roman Catholic, I hate no one.

Nick| 5.15.10 @ 7:16PM

Also, PurpleJackass, I see that you don't know the difference between "precedents" and "precedence", moron.

And, that you think John Marshall was the first chief justice of the Supreme Court!

How can you stand to be embarrassed so many times?
How stupid are you?
How can you keep coming back here, just to be repeatedly exposed as an ignorant nimrod?

I feel like George Kennedy, in "Cool Hand Luke", telling Paul Newman to "stay down!"

Nobama| 5.15.10 @ 8:31PM

I remember Paul Newman in "Cool Hand Luke," and Screeder is NO Paul Newman. Not even in his bestest dreams. haha

Purpleguy| 5.17.10 @ 5:41PM

At least you're reading all my so-called Commie Marxist BS - because it isn't BS ... it's interesting apparently, altho imperfect ... and has you thinking at least. I hope you're learning something too - yours is not the only valid view,and people that disagree with you can still love America.... Thanks for showing me you care...

Nick| 5.17.10 @ 6:46PM

Nice try, PurpleJackass.

If you think anyone is reading your asinine posts, you're delusional. But, that is a given.

I, as most do, scroll past your insipidly long comments.

It is easy to spot the ignorant mistakes in your short posts.
"Imperfect?" How about grossly incompetent.

Purpleguy| 5.17.10 @ 5:44PM

Wow, I forgot to thank you comparing me to Paul Begala... Thanks, I appreciate it... spare me the fact you don't like him ... but I do. Go Paul. A liberal Texan, yeehaw

Nick| 5.17.10 @ 6:52PM

I'm sure you would also apreciate being compared to Saul Alinsky, PurpleJackass.

Or Lenin, Stalin, and Mao, for that matter.

You would probably be on cloud nine if I compared you to Karl Marx himself, huh?

Nobama| 5.14.10 @ 4:31PM

Hornswoggled and hogtied; uh oh, Liberal Screeder is fantasizing about his NAMBLA buddies again!

Try as you might, Screeder, you can't deny that you liberals trafficked in human suffering when it benefited you and only stopped your disgusting behavior when we REPUBLICANS forced you.
These days you Leftists practice "Plantation Politics" and the heartbreaking results can be seen in our dead and dying inner cities. Honestly, you're worthless, Screeder; nothing recommends you and your ugly belief system. Sorry.

McVeigh was a registered DEMOCRAT, as is the latest democrat terrorist, Faisal Shahzad. Willy Nilly Clinton slaughtered nearly a hundred Americans, including twenty babies and children, at Waco.

History's a b!tch, ain't it? Especially, when we won't let you re-write it! Hahaha

See you November 2.

Purpleguy| 5.15.10 @ 10:04AM

You LIE and you are caught again believing the bloviators in the right-wing echo chamber. Check the facts if you can stand it....

"McVeigh's only known political affiliations were his voter registration with the Republican Party of New York when he lived in Buffalo, New York, and a membership in the National Rifle Association while in the military." Profile of Timothy McVeigh, CNN, March 29, 2001, accessed August 8, 2006. There's your Terrorist - a nasty-ass, off the deep end Republican! You can look up that factoid, dumbass.

"Shahzad's father, insisted that Shahzad's family had no political affiliations" ... the car he used as the bomb had a Democratic bumper sticker - but he bought the car on craigslist right before the bomb attempt. Evidence good enough for dittoheads apparently, but not factual.

CNews Several Arrested in Pakistan". Cnews.canoe.ca. May 2010. http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Wo.....1-ap.html.

Please stop spreading rumors and lies to make your points... Please use facts ... unless you want you want to continue to lose any credibility with your audience. It is most distressing to read a pack of lies that fit your worldview.

Nobama| 5.15.10 @ 8:27PM

What audience, you idiot? You're having flights of fancy again, troll.

McVeigh's father was a registered democrat and UAW member embittered by deteriorating economic conditions in the Rust Belt. McVeigh's family were democrats and union members not republicans, dumb-butt.
If Clinton hadn't slaughtered those 76 Americans in Waco, Oklahoma City would never have happened. McVeigh was executed for his terrible actions, why no punishment for your boy, Willy Nilly Clinton the Horndog in Chief?

The American Muslim community OVERWHELMINGLY supported Obama's 2008 election. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that Shahzad voted for--weak on national security--Obama, moron. Nice try, though.

Purpleguy| 5.17.10 @ 5:38PM

Oh, so now the issue is McVeigh's father? Interesting misdirection, but it doesn't work, dittohead. As I said, Republican is the only known registration for McVeigh, the terrorist.

He wouldn't be the first kid to reject his parents' morals or politics, now would he?

And, interestingly, you blame Clinton's actions for McVeigh, but I'm sure you don't blame the United States for Al Qaeda's actions do you? The action is the issue, not the motivation. You can be motivated to do anything - but if it a heinous crime, the action is what gets you the death penalty.

Oh, and what fairy told you that Shahzad voted for anyone? That's just innuendo and Right-wing, Nazi, bullpockey. Unless you have a citation, you're lying.

Nobama| 5.21.10 @ 2:35PM

As usual, you're lying, Screeder; we've come to expect it of you.

Shame on you for defending Clinton's brutal actions against innocent Americans. You still haven't answered my question: Why hasn't Clinton been punished for his slaughter of American citizens?

Of course Shahzad voted for Obammy--they're both Muslims!

JmsA| 5.14.10 @ 9:40AM

Purpleturd,

Ever hear of Stephen Douglas (D) from Illinois, and his Kansas-Nebraska Act? Do you know which major political party was the protector of slavery and why the Republican party came into being? Did you know that Martin Luther King was a Republican? Did you know that Bull Connor, the police official from Birmingham, Alabama, the same one that opened up with fire hoses and sicked the dogs on the civil rights demonstrators down south, was a big shot Democratic Party politician? Did you hear about Barney Frank? How about Eric Massa? Your ignorance and hypocrisy are boundless.

Nobama| 5.14.10 @ 12:46PM

Hells bells, talk about rank hypocrisy! Robert Byrd, LONNNGGG serving Progressive-Democrat Senator from W. Virginia, was a KKK Grand Kleagle (recruiter) for many years.

How do you know when a Liberal is lying?
His/Her lips are moving.

Democrats: The party of SLAVERY, SEGREGATION, SODOMY and SEDITION.

Purpleguy| 5.14.10 @ 3:05PM

Yep, hells bells alright. Strom Thurmond, long time Republican, started out as a long time Democrat, and led the Dixiecrat party - where - in the South. As I said before, parties switch and the Republicans became the segregationist, racist party, while the Democrats stood for all men are created equal. You should read about all the flip-flopping our politicians have done over 200+ years.

Nobama| 5.14.10 @ 4:51PM

You racist Democrats were responsible for slavery and segregation--you were the enforcers.
Don't forget the lynchings, LibScreeder--we haven't.

Today, your racist Democrat policies trap millions of minorities in America's hopeless inner cities, created by you Democrat racists and presently maintained under your racist leadership. You don't care about people--power is your real goal. There would be no abortion if you whoremongers could figure out a way to get the unborn baby vote. Until then, you'll keep pushing policies to kill the innocents.

You're still racist white Democrat slave owners, just your methods have changed.

Purpleguy| 5.14.10 @ 8:56PM

Yeah, you're right, you're always right ... The Republican/Conservative agenda includes lifting minorities out of poverty and giving long ignored minorities opportunities to share in the American dream. Yeah, that's why 90% of the black population generally votes Democratic ... they love to give their votes to the racist pigs that want them kept down. That's why the first Black Governor, First Black Senator and First Black President are of Democratic Party. Yeah, you're right. What an idiot.

Nobama| 5.15.10 @ 3:04AM

Lifting minorities out of poverty? Really? Is that why you liberal aholes created and maintain the inner cities? You don't give a damn about them you only want their votes.

Blacks succeed in spite of you not because of you, moron.

Purpleguy| 5.15.10 @ 9:32AM

Are you sure you know which party you support?

"You don't give a damn about them you only want their votes. " - sounds like someone describing the Republican party's view of the Christian Right, doesn't it?

You insist on name-calling... that's a sign of mental weakness and inability to communicate properly. You really show the world the mentality of the dittohead crowd. You ought to think about that before you indulge in your ridiculous smears of everyone and everything you don't like. It's really doesn't belong on this site.

Nobama| 5.15.10 @ 7:46PM

Correction: YOU don't belong on this site, moron.
Typical Progressive/Marxist--calls the truth smears; you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the butt.

Stop whining. Put on your big boy panties and deal with reality.

Purpleguy| 5.17.10 @ 5:32PM

You are free to say what you like, sonny, but it doesn't show you in a good light... I am not infringing on your right to free speech, as you are obviously doing with me... some upholder of the Constitution - you will as long as you agree with it, huh?

Nobama| 5.21.10 @ 2:36PM

Sez you, moron.

Purpleguy| 5.14.10 @ 3:02PM

Yes, I have. Yes, I do. Party affiliations and platforms have changed Einstein ... the Republican party and Democratic party of today are not the same as the parties of your grandparents or even parents. But you knew that, right?

Not sure what Barney Frank or Eric Massa has to do with it, but Massa tickles me...

Nobama| 5.14.10 @ 4:56PM

Sodomy has everything to do with those two Democrat "Gentlemen." Treachery has everything to do with liberals--it's been a constant with you losers. You're still the same, just your methods have changed.

Democrats: The party of SLAVERY, SEGREGATION, SODOMY and SEDITION.

Purpleguy| 5.14.10 @ 8:50PM

What's your obsession with Sodomy? Aren't you getting any?

Nobama| 5.15.10 @ 2:58AM

No, I'm not, but I'm sure you are, Barneyboy the fudgepacker.

Purpleguy| 5.15.10 @ 9:21AM

I knew that was it ... you need a good rogering to clear your head ... you secretly want Barney Frank to bone you, don't you?

Nobama| 5.15.10 @ 7:42PM

Moron. Thanks for the visual, I just threw up in my mouth.

What's with you and 'Roger'? Is that your real name?

Paul| 5.13.10 @ 1:54PM

Socialism: Where the free market becomes flea market

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howard | 5.13.10 @ 3:11PM

we need to vote all out of town

Robert| 5.13.10 @ 3:15PM

Just talked with a friend who came back from London. The company he works for has an office there. The British nationals that work for them have private insurance policies in addition to the government run plan. If you need to see a doctor soon, you better have a private plan.

Nobama| 5.13.10 @ 5:34PM

The elite always protect themselves; they will not be subject to their draconian laws.

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CBO Fans The Spending Debate – Blog Watch links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

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martin j smith| 5.13.10 @ 4:42PM

is purple guy Liberal reader ? No matter. Purole guy has his talking points and he will not deviate. he loves his leader and will do everything to help him. He is a foot soldier a "true believer-" Did I say He ? It could be a she or even computer generated who knows. In any event good luck trying to Argue" with this entity. I wont., Its not about facts its about Dear Leader.

Missy| 5.13.10 @ 5:30PM

Yes, PG is Liberal Screeder--Sultan of Snark.

Nick| 5.13.10 @ 6:06PM

PurpleJackass is so stupid, he thinks President Bush was in office for 10 months when the attacks of September 11th, 2001, occured.

Like most stinking liberals, he can't even do simple math.

JmsA| 5.14.10 @ 9:15AM

Nick,

You have to forgive purpleturd, he's deeply afflicted still with BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome).

Nick| 5.15.10 @ 11:46AM

JmsA,

Aren't all liberals?

I would recommend lobotomies, but they already had one to become liberal in the first place.

Al Gibson| 5.13.10 @ 5:28PM

Another member of the Poison Ivy League.

Missy| 5.13.10 @ 5:31PM

Great post--so apt. Liberals are poisonous, indeed.

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How come this stupid jackass is not LIVING IN ENGLAND if he loves their marxist health care system?????

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bluecollarbytes| 5.13.10 @ 11:47PM

How does govt plan on insuring 'quality' in health care? Quality is the result of dedicated individuals working in medicine. What do govt bureaucrats and political hacks know about that?

Nobama| 5.14.10 @ 5:02AM

Absolutely nothing.

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