The American Spectator : The Socialist Judge: Elena Kagan and the Teachable Moment

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The Socialist Judge: Elena Kagan and the Teachable Moment

By Jeffrey Lord on 5.12.10 @ 6:08AM

Bennett loss signals perils of vote for a pro-socialist Supreme Court nominee.

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Now comes President Obama’s nomination of his Solicitor General, former Harvard Law School Dean Kagan, as a replacement for Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens.

With the nomination barely 24-hours old, Senate Republicans are already doing their standard head-nodding “we’ll have to look at Elena’s record” blah-blah-blah. She’s nice. She’s swell. And, chime in her supporters helpfully, she’s a moderate. What a gal.

And in proceeding along those lines, the Senate GOP and the conservative movement are missing entirely what might be called a Kristol-clear opportunity.

The nomination of Elena Kagan is not about that nice Kagan woman. It is about her well and crisply stated views about “socialism’s greatness.” Views that, based on the actual record of the Obama presidency, this administration shares.

So. Got that? We have a Supreme Court nominee who believes in “socialism’s greatness.”

Socialism, then, is a highly relevant — the highly relevant — issue of this confirmation of an Obama nominated Supreme Court Justice.

This nomination fight must be about exactly what Ms. Kagan was thinking when she spent a lot of ink writing about “socialism’s greatness.” And how that thinking will affect her conduct on the bench.

Will she be confirmed? Maybe. Even probably. But her confirmation is quite beside the point. The notion that this President of the United States is a committed socialist is decidedly not beside the point. And as a symbol of the Obama administration Elena Kagan is a gift from the political MasterCard.

Priceless.

Why?

What needs to be discussed and debated, confirmed or rejected in this Supreme Court nomination is not Elena Kagan — but socialism itself.

This hearing and the debate that swirls around it should be one very slow-motion educational moment about every socialist thought, movement and result, from the Haymarket Riot of May 4, 1886 (which gave rise to the socialist and Communist celebration of “May Day”), to the policies of the National Socialist Party (the Nazis) of Germany, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (the USSR) and countries such as the Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea (ruled by the socialist “Korean Worker’s Party”). How did major American cities like Los Angeles, Detroit and New Orleans get into such deep trouble that everything from bankruptcy to a hurricane pushes them to the brink? What about socialism can be found in the policies of states like California, New York, and Michigan — all three which are ravaged by high unemployment and, yes, the looming shadow of bankruptcy?

Witnesses should be called to testify about the socialism Ms. Kagan praised. What kind of witnesses? Who, exactly? Why, some of the most prominent socialist advocates on the American scene today.

• Reverend Jeremiah Wright — the now-retired pastor of the Trinity United Church of Christ, in whose pews President Obama sat for 20 years is well on the record in favor of socialism presented as “Black Liberation Theology”

• Bill Ayers — the famous Weatherman whom Sean Hannity calls “the unrepentant terrorist” describes himself as “a radical, Leftist, small ‘c’ communist,” as reported by Stanley Kurtz in this article in the Wall Street Journal. Come up to the Hill, Bill. (Can we leave the bombs behind on this round?)

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Jeffrey Lord is a former Reagan White House political director and author. He writes from Pennsylvania at jlpa1@aol.com.

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Siegfried X| 5.12.10 @ 7:39AM

"Prodded hourly by the rebellious Newt Gingrich"

The same Newt Gingrich who now films global warming commercials with Nancy Pelosi.

"Kristol's startling recommendation: ... Just plain kill the bill outright and stand on conservative principles. "

The same Bill Kristol who became McCain's biggest supporter.

Even with Bennett and Specter knocked out, the party leadership still wants "Democrat lite".

blarset | 5.12.10 @ 11:16AM

Thank you. Two Party rule protected by their media friends and former co-workers in the government. You can't have the government as the press. Thats why we get so much lite-reporting.2010 electorate revolution Thanks Siegfried . Your right we know longer trust our leadership or the government or the press.
They are all one in the same.

Carlos| 5.13.10 @ 2:27PM

Wall Street owns the press and government.

DanMingo| 5.14.10 @ 11:33AM

The same Bill Kristol who has been wrong on just about every major issue of the past 20 years?

Gingrich opposed Hillarycare?
But, the Republican healthcare plan of that time is close to the one recently passed by Congress. What was once a conservative plan is now labeled as socialism?

Lawrence Boccardi| 5.12.10 @ 7:41AM

Your suggestion, that the Senate shine a bright light on the evil of socialism, during the confirmation hearings, pre-supposes that there must be a Republican Senator with the onions to do just that ?

Purpleguy| 5.12.10 @ 11:09AM

They don't ...

1FreeMan| 5.12.10 @ 1:22PM

Sup, troll?

Nick| 5.12.10 @ 3:20PM

Pay no attention to PurpleJackass folks.

He doesn't even know that Virginia governors don't run for re-election because they can only serve one term, then have to wait 4 years to run again.

He also likes to berate others for spelling "hypocrisy" wrong, and in the same post he wrote "hypocrit", like a moron.

He is not worthy of debate with grown-ups.

Nick| 5.13.10 @ 12:10AM

PurpleJackass also thinks President Bush was in office for TEN months when the attacks of September 11th, 2001, occured.

He is a moron.

DanMingo| 5.14.10 @ 11:34AM

Yeah, it was nine months. What a moron!

Nick| 5.14.10 @ 4:10PM

DanMingo,

You are as bad at simple math as PurpleJackass, dope!

President Bush was in office for SEVEN AND A HALF months when the attacks of September, 11th, 2001, occured, Einstein.

The democrats had been holding up his appointments all summer long. Not to mention the destruction Bubba the pervert had done to our defense and intelligence capabilities.

veritus| 5.16.10 @ 2:12AM

The Color PURPLE I believe was a Movie just as I believe Mr Purple is Showing his OBOT COLOR, call me crazy and Pithy but I as a LEGAL Imigrant that came here in 96 for a better life,I was forced with tears in my eyes to carry my "Green card" was Humiliated into turning over my records to PROVE I was a Law Abiding Citizen and had to have a Guranteed Job here before being allowed the Privelage to Live in Americia the Greatest Country On Earth (minus the Politicians) . I Became a Proud citizen 2 years ago and up to then Carried my Green card every day, yet the Obots Cry about the poor "ILLEGALS" that will be Harrased in Arozona, looks like I know where I am Relocating to, either there or Texas. For my conservative friends ye are wasting your time debating OBOTS< Progressives, Liberals as they are DEVOID of facts and when confrunted usually resort to name calling and cite FOX, Rush, Beck, Levin, Hannity as the Enemy of Americia where the opposite is true. Liberalisim is in my opinion a Serious mental Condition, they Can't be reasoned with and only succeed with the aid of an Undereducated, Freeloading, Socalist, Welfare Spawned Population (mostly White ) I dont want Jesse showing up at my door under a Rainbow ! with a few Rich Sponsors in the mix, similar to Islamic Exteremist Bankrollers that do it for the "Fame and Glory"

martin j smith| 5.12.10 @ 7:55AM

To start I would ask myself this: Why would BHO nominate Kagan ? Answer: ( as other have said ) They see eye to eye. Period. Kagan would be in the court to protect BHO's agenda. Period--well amd the Left agenda as well.
So, if this is true, and I believe it is the, what should republicans do ? They should question her in depth about her political philosophy in terms of her role as a possible appointee to SCOTUS.
The question is: What is your political philosophy and how would that impact on your decisions on SCOTUS ? If she tried to evade the topic I would go to her history at Harvard, any speeches she made or statements,her associations politically especially. I would want someone to ask her outright. Suppose you were on the court and you heard the case of States AGs who oppose the Health Care bill. On what principles would you base a decision on this case ? What constitutional ideas would you point to ? etc etc.
The point is to force Kagan to explain herself and her political and judicial philosophy to such an extent that it would be Krystal clear who she really is.

martin j smith| 5.12.10 @ 7:58AM

If she were too evasive i woulkd urge Republicans to reject her on the grounds that she has not been suffienctly candid and if was candid and she was clearly as what would be expected, the republicans should reject her based on the fact that she has no Judicial experience and would be nothing more than a political Left Democrat doing BHO's bidding.

Sara| 5.12.10 @ 8:06AM

The President has described Ms. Kagan as a nominee for the SCOTUS who has little judicial experience, but needs little, because she will make judicial decisions based on her experience as a human being. She will, according the Mr. Obama, make decisions that will favor "the little guy."

Putting aside all other prospective horrors buried in those remarks, consider that the President also appointed Ms. Kagan Solicitor General of the U.S. or the legal advocate for the government if the United States. If ever there was a "big guy" in this world, it is the U.S. government. Feel for the small businessman with a case before the court.

Shamus| 5.12.10 @ 8:09AM

Hugo Chavez favors the little guy in Venezuela.

Purpleguy| 5.12.10 @ 11:11AM

So did Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison...

NavyBrat | 5.12.10 @ 12:26PM

Uh, no they didn't. They didn't believe in any utopia or "worker's paradise." They believed in INDIVIDUAL liberty, not the GOVERNMENT to ensure their freedom. Go read some more Marx, Engels, Lenin, & Alinsky, Purplepuke. Your attempt at revisionist whitewashing of the Founding Fathers will get no traction here.

Purpleguy| 5.12.10 @ 2:11PM

"favors the little guy in Venezuela" is what you said. If you don't say what you mean, how can you have a legitimate argument? You obviously project all your worst fears and prejudices on your target of the moment, like a 12 year old.

"They believed in INDIVIDUAL liberty, not the GOVERNMENT to ensure their freedom" ... well you're partially right. The Government they set up, sanctioned by the ratification of the U.S. Constitution, DOES ensure your freedom, as it has from the beginning. The pesky little fact that proves it is call the Bill of Rights, Einstein. The Conservatives, the Tories, or Loyalists, lost the Revolutionary War, while the Progressives, the Founding Fathers won the War and gave us this Progressive Constitution. (Altho there are some conservative crap in the original, like Slavery) .

I don't know what Glenn Beck or Rush Loudmouth is teaching you, but it's obviously wrong.

NavyBrat | 5.12.10 @ 2:25PM

Its NOT a "progressive" Constitution, you revisionist history spouting toad. It means what it says. Its NOT a "living document" as your Marxist overlords have told you. The rights enshrined in the Bill of Rights are for the INDIVIDUAL. They say what the government CAN'T DO TO YOU, much to the chagrin of your massuh, Obama, who thinks that it's a list of "negative liberties" that doesn't say what the government should do FOR (read TO) you. Your ignorance of your country's history is breathtaking.

mavigozler | 5.13.10 @ 1:25PM

You said, "[The Bill of Rights] say what the government CAN'T DO TO YOU."

You are clearly not up on your right-wing fascist talking points, are you?

Your statement implies that whatever is not mentioned in the BoR are things that your government can do to you!

But clearly The American Spectator view is that unless the Constitution describes explicitly what the government can do, then it is neither the right nor prerogative of the state to assume that it can impose itself on the citizen.

I really believe another couple of months at a re-education camp in a wooded area where the paramilitaries work out is something you should be subjected to!

Nick| 5.13.10 @ 4:21PM

I believe the Ninth and Tenth Article of Amendments are part of the Bill of Rights.

Try reading, and comprehending, them sometime, Mavigozler.

Convet| 5.13.10 @ 9:18PM

Grow up and go away!

Interested Conservative| 5.12.10 @ 2:26PM

You mean the Charter Oak was Acorn's original community organizing effort?

Who knew?

Convet| 5.13.10 @ 9:10PM

SEIU thug troll. Ignore. Nothing to see here; move along!

Lagiusmeatius| 5.14.10 @ 10:46AM

Who else is there to enforce those individual liberties except the government. Unfortunately, the powers bestowed upon the government to change laws (and subsequently change/give/remove certain rights), is the same entity that enforces the individual liberties that we have. One could say "WE enforce them", but we all know that ultimately it is the government implementing the majority of that enforcement. It is the government (politicians) that constantly try to undermine, as well as remind us of--the constitution as well as amendments made thereof. Enforcement of our individual liberties is given by that same government.

Also, when I hear people refer to the founding fathers for wisdom, they fail to realize that many of these men also raped slaves, further exploited a land that was not "discovered" by any European (let's not forget about the Tribal Americans here--a.k.a. "native americans" which were here first), etc. Founding fathers made many mistakes as seen through modern eyes--just as we make various mistakes today. Times change, civil rights change, politics changes. We have no choice but to except this fact of dynamic and progressive cultural, political, and intellectual evolution, and those that think the "old way", is always the "best way" is in for nothing more than a rude awakening. We've changed many things over the years for the better, so please, let's not forget that.

Peace and love to everyone!
-Lagius

1FreeMan75@hotmail.com| 5.12.10 @ 1:25PM

Purple guy is the typical liberal drooling idiot trying to rewrite history to fit his stupid ideas.

Go away troll.

Nick| 5.12.10 @ 9:14PM

I know you are, but what am I?

Hey, Rolando PurpleJackass, do you have your papers? After fighting with your fellow TSA employees, you might get deported! Ha-ha!

JmsA| 5.14.10 @ 11:30AM

Shamus,

" Socialist ideology, like so many others, has two main dangers. One stems from confused and incomplete readings of foreign texts, and the other from the arrogance and hidden rage of those who, in order to climb up in the world, pretend to be frantic defenders of the helpless so as to have shoulders on which to stand."

Hugo Chavez favors Hugo Chavez!

JmsA| 5.14.10 @ 11:38AM

Purpleturd,

Benjamin Franklin was a self-made man, not a post-smoking, panhandling, food stamp consuming loser in Santa Cruz.

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Dan Hirsch| 5.12.10 @ 8:53AM

Delay! Delay! Delay!

If we can just stop this nomination long enough for the fall elections to loom on the horizon, she might say enough to sink herself. It is in her.

Call your REPUBLICAN Senators and raise hell with them. A couple of good questions could be enough to start a few stones rolling as precursor to the avalanche that becomes the earth moving.

Call 'em - write 'em ! Be nice, sweet, and FIRM!

Don't tread on me...

loulou| 5.12.10 @ 9:26AM

FILIBUSTER!
This will separate the men from the boys.

Lagiusmeatius| 5.14.10 @ 11:02AM

Filibustering has become the most abused "privilege" in our legislative branch of government. Unfortunately, Republicans in this branch have abused this more during the past year than any other time in U.S. history. More so than during the depression, or even WWII. Let's stop abusing this tool, now used to obstruct the very branch that we depend on for representation and GETTING THINGS DONE...it's not always about getting re-elected---sometimes you need to risk that re-election to actually make some progress for real hard working Americans. The more we filibuster, the less gets done. This works both ways, regardless of who is the current majority in the House & Senate. Ever since the civil rights act of 1964 was up for debate, filibustering has only increased exponentially. Let's get back to true democracy, with an up or down vote. In the future, it may be Republicans that could win by an up or down vote, that gets OBSTRUCTED because of this abused filibustering. We must respect true representative democracy--both ways. No double standards. Let's get back to being real men with principle, rather than whiners who employ benefiting from technicalities or loopholes. We mustn't stoop to, or stay at, that level. We are all better than that.

Peace and love to you all!
-Lagius

hoads| 5.12.10 @ 9:31AM

Republicans better have the balls to confront this issue head on. I call BS that people voted for socialism when they voted for Obama. Obama and the media lied about who he was and does not now get to push his socialist agenda with a socialist SC justice that we will be stuck with for the next 30-40 years. Filibuster if we have to!

Anthony| 5.12.10 @ 9:44AM

Well said Mr. Lord. This is the nomination that will tell the rank and file Republicans which Rs deserve to stay in Washington and which do not. The elected ruling class has lost touch with Americans and they are finding out the hard way that they don't get to rule forever. As you said, "Can you say Former Senator Bob Bennett'?
Graham, Hatch and other "get along" Club Senate Republicans had better understand that Obama has declared war on America, and if these clowns don't have the guts to stand up for America, we'll get folks in Washington who will.
You Club Senate Republicans had better choose now, either you're for preserving your pathetic careers, or, for standing up to the Marxist-In-Chief.
If Obama could filibuster Bush's nominees, you pathetic fools can do the same with his, especially a political hack Marxist like Kagen. At the very least, you will have done away with this filibuster of judicial nominees, which violates the Constitution. We are watching to see what you "leaders" are truly made of, and we will remember.

bill carson| 5.12.10 @ 10:37AM

Hey, the American people seem to want socialism. Why else give dictatorial power to the Democrats?

Purpleguy| 5.12.10 @ 11:12AM

Could it be they reject Conservative borrow and spend ideology?

NavyBrat | 5.12.10 @ 12:28PM

Could it also be that they reject liberal tax & spend ideology. You're projecting, Purpleputz. Go take your lithium, asshat.

Purpleguy| 5.12.10 @ 2:02PM

Lack of financial regulation put us almost in Great Depression. Lack of Mining regulation is killing our miners. Lack of Oil Drilling regulation is going to kill the Gulf Coast for 30 years. You pass less taxes than you have at anytime over the last 60 years. The Government is going broke. Government services (teachers, firemen, police, sanitation) are being cut.

How long will you hold on to your no-regulation, low taxes, pro-war, pro-American Empire ideology? Do you want the entire country to fall apart? What kind of patriotism is that?

We need to re-regulate (to a point) the un-regulated industries to work for US, not them. We need to raise your taxes to a limited, but reasonable level. We need to close business tax loopholes that encourage jobs to move overseas. We need to get off the oil tit - it's a national security emergency.

Then we can have our country back from the wealthy that are bleeding us dry and blaming the Government. They are good propagandists, and have indoctrinated a lot of you, but wake up people! Before it's too late, elect a Democratic in 2010, 2012 and beyond.

Mimi| 5.12.10 @ 2:59PM

Heh....Purp: We are probably in the Great Depression now It's crazy out here . the "O" has the business community FROZEN with his policies. The banker boy's played monopoly on the board that the Fed's set up with liberal mortgages (Fannie&Fred;). Here this tax cut's grow the economy!!! Control don't work ie (the commie way) never did and never will!!! Right now , thank's to the darn Dem's the wealthy are gettin darn POOR and are getting out of handing out some Friday Paychecks!!! WE got to vote the DARN?DEM'S out in Nov. and finish the job in2012.

Boria| 5.12.10 @ 7:30PM

It is the govt regulating the mortgage industry directly and Fannie Mae indirectly (Requiring them to make loans to people who could not afford a home under penalty of withdrawing their FHA insurance) that caused an overheating of the housing market. Ask Barny Frank and Chris Dodd!
It started in 1976 with the community re-investment act of 1977 (Jiimy C), accelerated under Clinton, and bore fruit during Bush's watch. He and Greenspan bear some of the blame for not seeing it coming...
Adding regulations to Wall Street will drive investments overseas... Cheers!

Convet| 5.13.10 @ 9:20PM

Blah, blah, BLAH!

JmsA| 5.14.10 @ 11:41AM

Purpleturd,

Are you referring to the mess Jimmeh Carter left for Ronald Regan to clean up?

Even the democrats are not buying your nonsense; they're either knocking out their statists in the primary, such as Mollohan, or retiring, like David Obey. There's thunder in the mountain. 11/02/2010.

JmsA| 5.14.10 @ 11:42AM

Apologies. I meant to write Reagan.

DanMingo | 5.14.10 @ 11:45AM

Yes, Reagan, who gave us 6 tax increases, including the largest in US history. He knew that you had to pay for your wild expenditures, and tax increases did the trick.

DanMingo| 5.14.10 @ 11:43AM

Could it be they reject Conservative borrow and spend ideology
Could it also be that they reject liberal tax & spend ideology

Note that both are accurate; conservatives want to spend just as much as liberals; they just have different priorities as to what to spend on and how to pay for it.
And wouldn't it be better, if you are going to spend like crazy, to at least tax (pay for) those expenditures.
I presume that Not Spending is the better choice, (or at least, freezing spending) but neither party seems inclined to go that route.

1FreeMan| 5.12.10 @ 1:27PM

Hey stupid purpleguy, Does your Mommie know you are out of the basement (oops, I mean "socialist lair")?

Beat it, troll!

Al Adab| 5.12.10 @ 1:56PM

C'mon Purp:
All too many of your posts confuse Conservatives with the GOP. Get this, they are not congruent.

It may be convenient for your "argument" polemic, but Conservatives oppose the GOP day in and day out and have since about 1960.

Purpleguy| 5.12.10 @ 7:31PM

So what part of this screed do you "Conservatives" not ascribe to: no-regulation, low taxes, pro-war, anti-immigration, pro-National language, anti-Europe, pro-American Empire ideology?

Bilwick| 5.13.10 @ 10:58AM

Regular readers of the State-fellator known as "Purpleguy" may be interested in knowing that he derived his alias from the color of his buttocks,
after his weekly sessions with a Michelle Obama dominatrix dressed as Ile She-Wolf of the IRS.

Nick| 5.13.10 @ 5:52PM

You appear to need a reminder of what you believe, PurpleJackass:

***THE TENETS OF THE MODERN LIBERAL MOVEMENT***

Pro-abortion/Anti-family
Pro-euthanasia/Anti-living
Pro-death/Anti-life
Pro-homosexuality/Anti-marriage
Pro-sodomy/Anti-chastity
Pro-pornography/Anti-modesty
Pro-perversion/Anti-virtue
Pro-criminal/Anti-gun
Pro-crime/Anti-law enforcement
Pro-perjury/Anti-truth
Pro-socialism/Anti-commerce
Pro-despotism/Anti-freedom
Pro-Arab/Anti-Israel
Pro-terrorist/Anti-American
Pro-Islam/Anti-Christian
Pro-pagan/Anti-God
Pro-Satan/Anti-Christ

JmsA| 5.14.10 @ 12:04PM

Spoken like a true little communist troll, which begs the question: Why are you still here, purpleturd? I hear Europe is quite lovely this time of year. Better hurry, though, before the socialists wreck it beyond repair. What about Cuba or Venezuela? I hear socialism and/or communism is alive and well there, and what's more, it isn't too hot there yet, unless of course, you're opposed to the tyranny. Oh, I forgot, you believe that to be nothing more than prejudice on my part. Pro-war? Not even close to strident Islam, which seeks to enslave. Anti-immigration? You must mean illegal immigration, right? Anti-Europe? Why bother? Not only are the socialists doing a fine job of screwing it up themselves, but in 50 years or so most of it will be Islamic. Anything else? 11/02/2010

JmsA| 5.14.10 @ 11:34AM

No, because they're ignorant ignoramuses like you, with malleable minds, easily swayed by the demagoguery of socialist false prophets like the One. 11/02/2010

Mimi| 5.12.10 @ 10:42AM

The thing to me that is the most troubling about Kagan is: The defense of L. Tribe and another in the dishonest writings. What it shows is a lack of integrity on her part. It tells us that she is a people-pleaser, butt-kisser. The video showing the dress-down from The esteemed SCOTUS on her thinking in Sept. 09 in Citizen/United against Federal Election Commission also showed she is out of their league....totally. The "lack of integrity" thing is something that the good Senators should question her on at length. It is looking like the ignorant "O" didn't do his homework......again!!!!! This nominee is not the best . There are many others out there, but to OBAMA maybe not the rubber-stamp. Our guys should put up one heck of a fight for our country's sake!

Mimi| 5.13.10 @ 2:20PM

Today is may 13 , 2010 ....... check out AMERICAN THINKER , Jack Cashill Article: KAGAN, OBAMA, AND THE HARVARDLEGACY OF LITERARY FRAUD It explains my post yesterday ! INTEGRITY. INTEGRITY, INTEGRITY!!!

Purpleguy| 5.12.10 @ 11:13AM

Don't count on the fight ... Ken Starr supports her and will give the Senators cover....

Stephie| 5.12.10 @ 12:31PM

Go away Asshat. Nobody cares about Ken Starr.

Purpleguy| 5.12.10 @ 2:20PM

Wow, watch out, your Stupid is showing honey...

JmsA| 5.14.10 @ 11:35AM

As opposed to yours in full view for a long time now.

Randy Wood| 5.12.10 @ 11:17AM

Republicans should definitely take the opportunity to challenge Kagan's record and make broad points about the role of the court. However, Kagan is most likely the best we can hope for, and Republicans should be thankful that they're not getting one of the more extreme candidates.

Al Adab| 5.12.10 @ 3:28PM

R W
More extreme?

J.C.Eaton| 5.12.10 @ 11:33AM

As Justice Robert Jackson summed up in describing his SCOTUS pals; "We are infallible because we are final, we are not final because we are infallible." This admission of enormous power is not indicative of a squad of the very finest jurisprudential brains in the nation converging with common purpose on the weightiest legal questions of the day: although that is what they probably want you to think and what assuredly the commentators writing from the country's pulpits of wisdom want us to think. The Supremes are no more and no less than a Super-legislature, bundled into an oligarchic structure whose job it has become to cancel lesser legislatures who actually have to face an occasional electorate. The election these princes and princesses face is their confirmation hearing. In short, Kagan is a legislator for life on the launching-pad. Given her relative youth, if confirmed, she will legislate under the gauzy veneer of the aforementioned collegial jurisprudence for decades. She will be a reliable Obamite all the way. If the Repubs want to play nice and phone in their opposition[as they have done so often in the past] just know where this is heading.

Purpleguy| 5.12.10 @ 2:22PM

With 4 of the 5 most conservative Justices on the Supreme Court now, we're counting on her and Sotomayor to balance them. Hopefully, Obama can appoint 2 or 3 more ... 1 of them a replacement for a Conservative. Now, THAT would be stupendous!

George S| 5.12.10 @ 11:54AM

I think it is a mistake to debate socialism. Here we have the second Obama nominee who in their contact with the Court exhibited incompetence in their respective cases - Sotomayor with the firefighter ruling upholding quotas and now Kagan with her defense of DADT, notwithstanding the Solomon Amendment. The pattern here is not socialism, per se, but the watering down of the judiciary -- a sort of defining deviancy down. Plain and simple, Obama is transforming the Court to where common sense and the rule of law is now the odd man out, and probably gaining a measure of revenge against the truly bright justices who were probably shaking their heads at Obama's nominees during arguments. That reason alone is enough for disqualification. Anyone who goes before the Court and exhibits a lack of understanding of our principles -- or a measured hostility towards -- should be allowed no where near the building.

J.P. Travis | 5.12.10 @ 12:28PM

There's no doubt that watching a senate panel debate socialism would be hugely enjoyable, but I'm afraid that instead of the Scopes Monkey Trial-moment we're imagining we'd get a tepid idiotic display of ignorance from senators on both sides. This is not an overly-intelligent group of individuals, face it. Meanwhile, I think that the fact that Kagan will make the Supreme Court 100% Harvard/Yale, to go along with a quarter-century of Harvard/Yale presidents, and that Kagan will replace the last Protestant Christian on the Court, and the last military veteran on the Court, says something ominous about the divergence between the American public and its judicial system. (My column on the Court's makeup: http://www.jpattitude.com/100512.php )

chatman| 5.13.10 @ 7:28PM

The S. Ct. is not going to be 100% H/Y. Ginsburg is a Columbia grad.

Oldefarte| 5.12.10 @ 12:50PM

Great, great article! I'm not sure whether or not it's connected, but, in my opinion, Kagan's nomination is solely/singularily due to her closeted homosexuality [and her futuristic SC decisions regarding same, just as her previous activities/court briefs have largely been about GAYS IN THE MILITARY, BANNING ROTC FROM COLLEGE CAMPUSES DUE TO THEIR 'DON'T ASK' POSITIONS,ETC]. Her nomination may be more generally about socialism, but the stealth issue is THE POLITICAL BONE BEING THROWN TO THE HOMOSEXUAL COMMUNITY!!!!!!!!

Mimi| 5.12.10 @ 1:22PM

Heh...O F Today on POLITICO there's a piece by Ben Smith : KAGAN"S FRIENDS: She's Not Gay..... anyway we are getting more in on her background...I'm starting to believe she may have serious trouble on both sides . Still early!

ACynic| 5.12.10 @ 1:11PM

Just what the coutry needs; an elitist liberal progressive, neo-communist, arrogant, millionaire on the supreme court.
The ruling elites - just like in the former Soviet Union - dictate to the masses what must be, while they ,while denying the same to the common folks.
Another notch in the cap for upper west side communists.

Al Adab| 5.12.10 @ 2:01PM

This nomination simply proves what we already knew. The totalitarian Left is interested in agendas and outcomes, not in reality or Justice. Remember outcome based education? Now we have outcome based legalism. Never let the facts stop a prefered decision. This is ideology pure and simple.

They will argue that "we won you lost" and Conservatives, whatever the GOP may do, should remember next time they are in a position to play by these new rules. As for now, treat this nominee as the Left treated Bork and Thomas or Estrada. Qualifications , which she lacks anyway, matter not at all, ideology rules the day. Bork her!

Ken (Old Texican)| 5.12.10 @ 2:12PM

Folks,
I already said it: "This woman comes from the belly of the beast". (Satan and communism, pardon the shorthand).

DUCK AND COVER...LOCK AND LOAD FOR NOVEMBER!

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Elena Kagan is a lesbian, but that’s not why she shouldn’t be nominated | RantNation links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…republicans, who claim to follow the Constitution and Bill of Rights, need to step up and get to work on this nominee. I’d ask the same of the dems, but what’s the point? In an American Spectator article, a quote from Elena Kagan can be found that reveals her love of socialism: “In our own times, a coherent socialist movement is nowhere to be found in the United States. Americans are…

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Republican Tea Party Hedges on Rejecting Enemy of the Constitution Kagan « GCN News links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…the effect of those restrictions on speech,” reports CNSNews. It does not take a lot of imagination to envision what Kagan would deem proper motives for government censorship. She is a socialist, Wall Street operative, and multicultural lesbian. In an article written three years later, Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government. In…

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ReasonAndJest.com » Another Hurricane Elena? links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…libertarian political instincts. David Brooks, though of course not concerned about the libertarian angle, has related thoughts. From Jeffrey Lord of The American Spectator: The Socialist Judge: Elena Kagan and the Teachable Moment The issue — the issue — of this confirmation hearing for a Supreme Court Justice should be not Ms. Kagan, but socialism. Socialism, the philosophy she professed…

Nick| 5.12.10 @ 6:57PM

That the KAGAN is an avowed socialist is not that big of a shock, really. She is the female version of President Dither, after all.

What is shocking is that she argued in front of the Supreme Court of the United States that Congress could ban books!

If that doesn't merit disqualification from being a Supreme Court justice, then what does?

Winston N. Martin| 5.12.10 @ 7:16PM

Solicitor General Kagan should read her favorite parts of "The Black Book of Communism" to her Senate interrogators and worshippers. (Or perhaps a right-thinking Senator could do so.) It would be very interesting to know exactly what about mass murder, starvation, and torture most appeals to Kagan. Perhaps Lenin's elimination of intellectuals, such as engineers? A little taste of Hitler's final solution? Some of Stalin's campaign of mass starvation in the Ukraine? Maybe a bit about the forced mass exodus of Cambodia's city dwellers to the killing fields of Kampuchea that were fertilized by human bodies. It is a very thick book. But I don't mind waiting.

Libertyman13| 5.13.10 @ 12:50PM

First of all, Nazism is a right-wing ideology. Not a left-wing ideology. Everyone should grasp this: militarism, nationalism, hate, the limitation of personal freedom--these are the hallmarks of the right.

Second, you can't possibly think that Kagan is a socialist. Even if she were, which she isn't, this "article" could not possibly have convinced you. It cites no evidence, and doesn't even accurately describe what socialism is! It calls New York and California socialist. Are you people insane? LOOK UP SOCIALISM. NONE OF THIS IS SOCIALISM.

Poppakap| 5.13.10 @ 2:36PM

Hey Cluelessaboutliberty;

Nazism always has been and always will be a socialist ideology, regardless of what your public school teachers may have told you. If you knew anything about economics, you'd know this to be true. Nazism was economically, first and foremost, about the control of state industries so they could do the bidding of the Fuhrer. State control of anything is what? Oh yeah, socialism! Duh...

So the limits of personal freedom are hallmarks of the Right? Really? Which history books have you been reading? Howard Zinn's? The last time I checked, thousands escaped and millions more died trying to escape the freedom restricting horrors of communism/socialism in Russia, Cambodia, China, Poland, Romania, etc. The data is so well documented, it is laughable that you even attempt to argue otherwise. It shows a complete inability to embrace truth in favor of ideology, which is and always has been, a hallmark of the Left.

You also mentioned hate, without giving any objective data. Funny thing about hate, I've always assumed its ultimate expression is killing someone; something the Left has done to the tune of over 100 million over the last 100 years. By comparison, the most "hateful" thing the Right has done is organizing to prevent the reinvention of marriage to include homosexual relationships. Any rational person would opt for the latter...

Boria| 5.12.10 @ 7:16PM

If Dems could go after Robert Bork and Gov McConnell of VA for their youthful writings, so should conservatives... One ingredient is missing: Backbone! Too many in the Senate would rather go along to get along instead of standing for principle and a future win! I do not believe they even know what their 4 or 5 core beliefs are...
Cheers!

Libertyman13| 5.13.10 @ 12:48PM

Yeah, except like a typical freedom-hating conservative, Mr. McConnell sought to use government and societal pressure to limit the free will and expression of certain types of people deemed unworthy of it or of certain types of actions. Conservatism is, and always has been, the enemy of true individualism and freedom.

Kagan wrote a scholarly paper looking at a period in history. She surely put forward no endorsement of such, or it would be quoted in this "article." Let's try to use our brains here!

Poppakap| 5.13.10 @ 2:43PM

Once again, cluelessaboutliberty shows its ideological master; homosexuality. Since conservatives don't want to allow them to redefine marriage, they are therefore evil. Yawn...

I just love how one issue leftists love to lecture conservatives about freedom; they would allow government to determine our every action as long as government supported their specific ideological agenda. How such irony is beyond their grasp is always interesting and sometimes even entertaining (as in this case).

Cow Rie| 5.12.10 @ 10:11PM

To the tune Apolitical Blues by Little Feat:

"My telephone's a ringing......
And they tell me it's the RNC.
Yes my telephone is ringing,
and it's Cornyn's RNC...
You can tell 'em anything,
Cause I don't want to talk to 'em now.

I've got the RINO political blues,
It's the meanest blues of all.
I got the Republic Killing Blues,
from them Socialist Fools and all.

I don't care if its John Cornyn,
I 'm not supportin' Alena's
Graham and Hatch men no mo'."
----------------------------
Folks, my phone rings from these clowns at
the RNC Senate Fundraiser. I now hear that
the fat jolly socialist Kagan may get support from Orrin Hatch and Goober Grahamn. It is time to put white heat on the arses of these fools.
We need a filibuster to fight Obama's Harvard crony. After all, Jr. Senator Obama did it on the more qualified Alito. And even Harriet Myers was more qualified than the chubby communist Kagan.

bluecollarbytes| 5.12.10 @ 10:34PM

Obama should be forced to withdraw Kagan's name, just as George W Bush was forced to withdraw Harriet Meyers. Obama could then submit someone else. There's no reason to hand him what he wants without a fight unless professional Republicans have their personal motives. It's time for some new hires.

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Republican Tea Party Hedges on Rejecting Enemy of the Constitution Kagan « Dissent links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…not necessarily the effect of those restrictions on speech,” reports CNSNews. It does not take a lot of imagination to envision what Kagan would deem proper motives for government censorship. She is a socialist, Wall Street operative, and multicultural lesbian. In an article written three years later, Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government. In…

john| 5.13.10 @ 4:18AM

:D :D :D
Scare americans: keep saying 'Socialist'

America needs Americans: they are the only ones who think America is the greatest country on earth.
The rest of the world thinks you're ignorant loudmouths who'll help you out of a tough spot by getting you in an even tougher spot while pushing religion, an idiotic idea of 'freedom', and fear of teh eeevil communism down your throat.

poppakap| 5.13.10 @ 2:47PM

Dude, before you try posting a comment, please try learning something about grammar and rhetoric. Your writing is so bad (must have attended a public school in Detroit or NYC) one can't tell if you are earnest or feebly attempting sarcasm. Either way, a remedial course in English would be a worthy investment for you.

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Only In The Mind Of A Radical Progressive Can One Believe That Elena Kagan Is A Moder links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…of the Law School in 2003, the same year Professor Kagan was awarded the title of Dean. Now we see more of a pattern, of the like-minded people that surrounds the President. The Socialist Judge: Elena Kagan and the Teachable Moment By Jeffrey Lord “In our own times, a coherent socialist movement is nowhere to be found in the United States. Americans are more likely to speak of a golden past than of a…

Yosemeti Sam| 5.13.10 @ 11:51AM

" The Socialist Judge: Elena Kagan and the Teachable Moment ...."

Perhaps the nominee par socialist may wax upon
the socialist successes of Europe? Their union-busting societal nirvanas realizations - of late.

Oh - the glory of socialism. Kinsman to Communism!

She may splain - she who is champion of socialism!

Parenthetically - let Lindsey Graham do the Specter and have done with it!

And that - Mao Zedong White House Christmas
tree ornament - puzzle. Connections?

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Twitter Trackbacks for The American Spectator : The Socialist Judge: Elena Kagan and links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…email alert for spectator.org Topsy Retweet Button Add Topsy Retweet Button to your Blog or Web Site. WordPress Web Sites 6 tweets tweet 6 All 2 Influential The American Spectator : The Socialist Judge: Elena Kagan and the Teachable Moment spectator.org/archives/2010/05/12/the-socialist-judge-elena-kaga – view page – cached "In our own times, a coherent socialist movement is nowhere to be…

Stanley Ford| 5.13.10 @ 12:33PM

This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the U.S. Department of Energy.

I then took a shower in the clean water provided by a municipal water utility.

After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC-regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like, using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration.

I watched this while eating my breakfast of U.S. Department of Agriculture-inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

At the appropriate time, as regulated by the U.S. Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the U.S. Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration-approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level
determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank.

On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the U.S. Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and Fire Marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its
valuables thanks to the local police department.

And then I log on to the internet -- which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration -- and post on American Spectator and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM is BAD because the government can't do anything right despite the fact that we wouldn't be alive without them.

san s| 5.13.10 @ 12:41PM

Great post! Thank you.

usnpops| 5.13.10 @ 1:33PM

I liked what the post said, and yes that ia good analogy. And in most cases you listed, the job the government was supposed to do, and assigned to do by the citizens.

What you seem to be unaware of in your comfortable day to day routine, is some things going on. Your abaout to get a big hidden tax increase over the next years for healthcare. Gas costs may reach $5 per gallon under the cap and trade Bill. The fcc is in the proces of trying to take greater control of the internet, which will also raise the cost to use it, and less personal privacy when on the internet. NASA is in the process of becoming a second rate entity, and we will send our people into space on Russian craft to the tune of 40 million per ride. The Post office is bankrupt, and drastically reducing services as we write. The highways in this country are deteriorating rapidly, and funds torepair them are dwindling. Been over Donner Pass Lately, or Snoqulamie. Police and fire departments all over the country are being reduced in force as almost every city and town is going bankrupt. Tax income to every city and Town is down due to a near 10% unemploymet rate. ETC. ETC.
So you are living your utopian life today, as many were 2-3 years ago. But wait till you are laid off and your Unemployment is all used up, can't pay your mortgage, car payment, light bill etc. I have a son in that position. Utopia is not for real, at some time you must pay the piper.

Stanley Ford| 5.13.10 @ 2:12PM

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about so let me go ahead and school you past your FOX news talking points.
1. Healthcare: No we wont. You see those Bush tax cuts where he gave away $2.7 trillion to the wealthiest 3% of the country will expire and we'll finally have that money back. The Big Oil tax loopholes will be closed and Exxon will have to pay back taxes to the tune of $2-$3 trillion add Chevron, BP, etc. etc. Plus Democrats historically and factually have been the only ones to balance a budget in 30+ years.
2. $5 gas? Sure why the hell not. I say $10 gas maybe then everyone will wake up to what a farce Big Oil has pulled on us for the last 100 years.
3. FCC sir you are completely and utterly wrong. What the FCC is going to do is make cable providers actually invest in infrastructure and live up to what they say they are providing. So instead of Comcast saying they aren't blocking packets now they get fined. If you don't get true 1MBPS download then they can't charge you for it. Sorry but I'll put my bets with the Google guys way before cable companies. And right now Google is behind the FCC 100%. Get your facts straight.
3. Yes America's infrastructure is in a shambles this typically happens when Republicans are in charge and start doing away with government programs they view as "socialistic" little things like bridges and highways and schools. You know all those Marxist/Communist?Socialist things like a fire department. What was the last inter-state Americas infrastructure project a Republican administration proposed?
(There aren't any)
America must invest heavily in itself to rebuild it's infrastructure and thus create jobs.

poppakap| 5.13.10 @ 2:51PM

Oh Stanley, that good ole' gummint kool-aid be tastin' mighty fine today!

Stanley Ford| 5.13.10 @ 4:38PM

At least I dont look to the American Spectacle as a site that has anything to offer other than a view into this sickness known as conservatism.
I mean every single contributor on this site is a either a former Reagan or Bush apologist. I mean these are the exact same people who got us where we are now. FACT. Period end of discussion.

You know what they call people who do the same thing twice expecting different results???
CRAZY.

Marcus Brown | 5.13.10 @ 1:52PM

Stanley Ford, that’s a cute little exercise but the degree of control and restriction is at the root of the differences between the constitutional concept of limited government and the communal Socialist concept of complete government control of the individual. This battle has been going here for more than 150 years. The founding fathers clearly tried to set up a representative republic based on an individual’s God-given rights. They were fully aware that a democracy is one of the worst forms of government and had seen the results its their failures.
The spin on this difference is astounding. For instance, “Liberty13” above says Nazism is a right-wing ideology. Ridiculous. Nazism is a LEFT-WING ideology – a Socialist one that has always evolved into a dictatorship based on “militarism, nationalism, hate, and limitation of personal freedom.” These are hallmarks of the LEFT, even today. It is the part of the Left’s creed to talk of dictatorships as being from the right. E.g. Amnesty International always deplores evils of the right and ignores Socialist-Communist states with much greater abuses. American ostriches accept this and stick their heads back in the sand.

Stanley Ford| 5.13.10 @ 2:16PM

I shall quote wiki for you so you can get your facts straight: "in practice, Nazism was a far right form of politics."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

But don't let pesky reality and facts get in your way; after all "conservatism" in and of itself is at direct odds with facts and reality so why change now.

poppakap| 5.13.10 @ 2:54PM

Anyone that refers to wikipedia as an objective form of truth can not be reasoned with.

Here's a newsflash Stan: anyone from anywhere can enter data in wikipedia.

Your juvenile attempts at rhetoric are really good for a few laughs though. Keep the hits a-comin'!

Stanley Ford| 5.13.10 @ 4:33PM

Would you say that Conservapedia is a good source of info then?

Sorry but Wiki is by far and away the best source of information on the web today. A community driven reference site that does not peddle in lies with over 30 million users is wrong?
Sorry sir but you're delusional. Keep watching Glenn Beck and FOX news; though make sure you have your talking points straight:

Remember Nazism/Marxism/Socialism/Communism are all the same thing and Obama is a liberal and caused $19 trillion of debt, started 2 wars, gave away $2 trillion to the wealthiest 2%, shredded the constitution and all of that in just 16 months.

The amount of mis-information that you spew speaks volumes about both your intelligence and your ideology. But good come back though "Wiki lies!! Loser!!"
But you still didn't prove your point. :)

Jumpin Joe| 5.14.10 @ 11:40AM

Here's a quote from the article you linked to. It shows you're an idiot.

The Nazis sought to distinguish and separate themselves from conservative nationalist competitors such as the German National People's Party (DNVP) by officially denouncing conservatism, and attacking conservative nationalists for being reactionary, bourgeois enemies of the German nation who were equal in blame alongside Marxism for Germany's downfall in 1918.[13] The Nazis made alliances with the DNVP, but they claimed that these were tactical in nature and that the two parties had significant ideological differences.[14]

Stanley Ford| 5.13.10 @ 2:21PM

An after thought.
So Sweden, Norway, Iceland, The Netherlands, Switzerland and France are headed for a dictatorship??
“militarism, nationalism, hate, and limitation of personal freedom.”

All of these things you listed are party platforms for the GOP and the Tea Party.

You know that, right?

Nick| 5.13.10 @ 4:43PM

Mr. Ford,

Why don't you get into your car, invented by individuals, and which the manufacture of, was perfected by Henry Ford, with NO government assistance;
drive to the airport, get on an airplane, invented by two brothers who owned a bicycle shop, with NO government assistance;
fueled by oil, first discovered in Pennsylvania and exploited by individuals, like John D. Rockefeller, with NO government assistance;
and fly to one of your socialist paradises;
and NEVER come back.

JmsA| 5.14.10 @ 1:16PM

Everything that you credit the government with has one way or another been created or sustained by private enterprise. Socialism did not build this country, whether you believe it or not. If anything, in many aspects, particularly for the last 30 years or so with over-regulation, it has retarded growth and innovation.

Was Thomas Edison a government worker? How about Eli Whitney? Was Jonas Salk, M.D., a government worker? Was and is the government solely responsible for educating and professionally training those scientists and technicians launching the satellites and monitoring the weather? I think private higher education entities, such as MIT and the California Institute of Technology, would beg to differ.

Despite the exorbitant amounts of revenue provided to the government, we still have a crumbling transportation infrastructure throughout the country, particularly bridges spanning bodies of water. So it appears that the government is not the fix all that you claim it to be.

The components used to build the satellites are manufactured by private industries. The food is grown by private farmers. Next time I hear about a salmonella outbreak that the government failed to discover, I'll remember you. Who builds the vehicles you drive, besides of course now the government-0wned GM and Chrysler? The Federal Reserve just prints paper money and charges us interest for it, while refusing to have its books audited. The U.S. inefficient snail mail Postal Service? Give me a break. They continue to operate thanks to the constant massive infusion of tax payer money. Have you wasted half a morning yet trying to mail a package at your nearest post office lately. Maybe you have the time to waste, but I don't. I'll stick to UPS, etc., thank you. The Postal Service is obsolete, and were it not for the bucketfuls of contribution from its union members to the democrat party, they would long ago gone the way of the dinosaurs. Unfortunately, plenty of people still get hurt and maimed despite OSHA and Department of Labor Regulations. And by the way, one of the things that I do for a living is Workers' Compensation, so I know for a fact that private insurers and employers do a rather fair job of self-policing and safeguarding their employees-after all is the commonsensical, profitable thing to do. By the way, I say this not to fault or criticize workers, but a significant percentage of on-the-job injuries are caused by negligence in the part of the workers, irrespective of government regulations. These injured workers, by the way, are treated by private doctors, whose fees along with other ancillary services are paid by private insurance carriers.

So, tell me, did the government manufacture the safe electrical components that keep your house from burning down? Thanks, I didn't know the Underwriters Laboratories was a government agency. Moreover, should your house become engulfed in fire, God forbid, the fire department trucks and equipment used to fight the fire by the firemen would have been built by...the government? Go ahead when you develop a serious ailment, once again God forbid, and contact a bureaucrat in Washington D.C. and ask him/her to treat your disease. What you failed to take into account is that the government and its employees save those from the two highly technical entities you mentioned, so generously compensated at the expense of the taxpayer, operate mostly in an oversight capacity, while not producing much of anything--just eating up resources, more often than not very inefficiently. By the way, do you remember that satellite lost in Mars not too long ago at the cost of billions of taxpyer dollars? Nothing is perfect, particularly as far as the government is concerned. Been to L.A. lately and seen all of the potholes? Did you know that per union bylaws road repair crews are not to repair more than set number of potholes per shift. Why do think the City of L.A. contracts so much work out to private contractors? Hear about the nearly 5 percent Department of Water and Power rate increase in L.A., to fund the pension plan of its workers? You're either a government worker or a misguided statist/Hegelian type. Anyway, I'll stick to Fox News and the American Spectator and the sensible opinions of its contributing writers and some of its posters before I wake up to the sound of my privately build alarm clock and turn on MSNBC or log on the Daily Kos on the Internet (created in cooperation by many, including Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers in 1974, not just the U.S. Government, by the way). Have a nice day.

san s| 5.13.10 @ 12:41PM

You conservative weenies just love to label things don't you? Then you don't have to think or use your brains to understand anything.

poppakap| 5.13.10 @ 2:55PM

...and the Left doesn't? Please... Leave the debate to adults.

Libertyman13| 5.13.10 @ 12:43PM

Yeah! While we're at it, let's end socialized defense, education, police, fire protection, etc.

This is terrifying! No, not the incoherent blather you've spouted trying to tie Kagan to socialism, without a speck of evidence (studying something is not supporting it, and saying those words is not proof of their falsity, and even a conservative should retain enough logic to comprehend that point). No, not your mind-boggling conflation of Nazism, a right-wing ideology, with socialism and communism. No, not even the psychotics posting on here, treating belief in climate change as apostasy among other things.

It's the insistence on 1) calling our centrist president a socialist, of course with no understanding of the meaning of the term; 2) pretending that conservatism has a positive correlation with liberty, when 5000 years of human history tells the opposite story, with some rather vehement examples in recent years, and 3) that people lap up your ramblings as if they had a basis in truth. Yikes!

obamacornlies | 5.13.10 @ 12:55PM

Please join us Friday, Mat 14, 2010 at the Trial of the Century!
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eolon| 5.13.10 @ 1:01PM

I like to think how much better the country would be without the evils of democracy and socialism feeding on the bloated corpse of our Republic.

The Constitution and the Bill of Rights, those annoying counters to socialism, are specific in the rights that they grant to government, and then go to great lengths to list the things that government cannot do.

Dept. of Education? Dept. of Agriculture? Really? Even when every state in the union has a dept. of education and agriculture?

There are plenty of Socialist countries operating right now, where the Government provides for all your needs, and makes sure that nothing bad every happens to you. Why don't you empty-headed mouth-breathers move to Venezuela? - or North Korea? Could it be that every example of Socialism ends in oppression, genocide, hatred, and devolution?

You disgust me.

Best Regards,

.::.

usnpops| 5.13.10 @ 1:51PM

Anybody keepng up with the situation in Greece. Over the past years their government gave them
all of the entitlements that our Welfare state gives. And finally it bankrupted them. Now the people are rioting in the streets demanding the government giveaway to continue , and we are going to be contributing towards bailing them out.
our government is in the process of doing the same, but there will be no one to bail us out. The national debt is so large we will never pay it off. The Dollar is becoming worth less as every day the Fed prints more money with nothing to back it up. The IRS reports that taxes collected for 2009 are the lowest in years due to high unemployment, yet the government keeps passing more ways to spend money. Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac are getting millions of dollars every day to cover failed mortages given to those who couldn't afford them in the first place. So yes, with the power thegovernment weilds these days, we are no longer a Capitalist democracy, but moving closer to socialism evry day. And ven on our highest court, we soon will have people decidin based on socialistic views, rather than on interpreting the constitution

RAMIII| 5.13.10 @ 1:18PM

Just remember that the dirty little secret with Socialism (when it fails -- as it always does) is that it gives A LOT of POWER to the few elites and a scape goat will always be found to deflect the blame for its failure. Then you may only guess what happens to the scape goat!

The proof lies in history. Those who deny this by "focusing" on the "Future" are either ignorant or lying, evil, power hungry despots.

Wally| 5.13.10 @ 1:18PM

Four pages in this blog and all you got is a couple of sentences from a 33 year old college paper studying a part of actual U.S. history? Um, okay Senator McCarthy.

Speaking of Senator McCarthy, what makes someone unfit for a position as a judge if one is sympathetic to aspects of socialism? The U.S. already HAS socialism as part of its economic system. This is akin to the morons in the Tea Party - "Get your Gubmint hands off my Medicare!" We HAVE socialized medicine in the U.S. , including the VA - which works quite well actually, Medicare and Medicaid. All with HUGE public support.

What we don't do in the U.S. (and rarely in Europe) is control the means of production. Kagan nor Obama nor any other progressive politician has advocated that since the 30s. And if they did? So what? Does advocating more government involvement in say, the scams of Wall Street mean the advocate is not a loyal American? Of course not. Unless, you think expousing free speech viewpoints on economics is UnAmerican. Which moronic demagogues like Jeffrey Lord, Ann Coulter and Sarah Palin do.

Get outta the bunker people, the 20th century, and oh yeah, the 21st century, are here.

RAMIII| 5.13.10 @ 6:08PM

Refer back to my second paragraph. You are definitely proving my point one way or the other.

jerry silovich| 5.13.10 @ 1:20PM

its bad enough she is a socialist.she probaly taught socialism as a professer in colege e and universities. she has pratcice in a law firm orr been a judge so who can she be a justice ib highess court of the land?

Dr. James Willingham | 5.13.10 @ 1:22PM

Note the reference to Fidel Castro and consider the case of Tommy Lee Buckley in the Federal District Court of Amarillo, Tx and how he claims to have had (before the government seized it) a copy of a Certificate of Deposit drawn on one of our Federal Reserve Banks in the amount of nearly a billion dollars in the name of Fidel Castro. He also had 8 other certificates which were likewise seized. And then he had other certificates drawn on banks and Federal Reserve Banks in other nations all in the name of various leaders in other nations. It was like the financial instruments that control the world, some $33 trillion dollars worth, all with the proper signatories and seals and etc. Interestingly enough, one of these certificates worth in the billions in platinum drawn on a bank in Switzerland showed up in a case in New South Wales Australia and the fellow supposedly perpetrating that fraud was let go and recognized as a legit. business person. And why is it no one in the national media is making much of the 3+ trillion lawsuit that has been brought against the SEC for trading off the books? Life is sure getting interesting. O and does the same outfit control both the Republicans and the Democrats?

Yosemeti Sam| 5.13.10 @ 1:27PM

If one gets up in the morning - it's because of the
Bill of Rights.

If one goes to sleep at night - it's because of the
Bill of Rights.

In-between, Capitalism cum Bill of Rights and
creativity - NOT socialism and it's parasitic
practitioners - rule the daylight hours.

bptr| 5.13.10 @ 1:30PM

The problem isn't "Socialism". It's idiots like you people babbling your propaganda for all the fat stupid masses to believe. You morons can't seem to understand anything. "Obama administration has taken control of everything from car companies to financial institutions to banks to your health care." Your complete clown Resident Bush with his Dr. Evil venal sidekick Dickhead Cheney so completely messed up our country that dractic measures were needed immediately. Our economy collapsed BEFORE Obama even took office. Why can't you imbeciles get that? If you want to do something to help, stay out of the way of the smart people and get rid of your corrupt Republican crooks in office and the Fox News and other propaganda sources that simply spout lies and influences the stupid masses.

usnpops| 5.13.10 @ 2:03PM

you need to go back way before bush to see the cause of the meltdown of our economy. It finally happened during the Bush Administration, but began with j. carter and then made worse by B. Clinton.
Check the years that Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac were setup. they were put in place so that the democrats could push banks to give mortgages to people that could not prove they would ever pay it back. And Fannie and Freddie would be insurance that if the Mortgages failed, the banks would be covered . And of course AIG was the insurer for Fannie and Freddie. So we had to bailout AIG so they could continue to cover Fannie and freddie, who are still getting millions of dollars a month from the fed to keep them afloat. Another house of cards that soon will collapse when the foreclosures on Commercial Real Estate kicks in later this year.

usnpops| 5.13.10 @ 2:06PM

Sorry, I forgot to mention ACORN which was instrumental in getting a ton of those toxic mortgages pushed through.

jfamis| 5.13.10 @ 2:08PM

you are an idiot

bptr| 5.13.10 @ 1:36PM

What you call "Capitalism" and "Free Market" today has become nothing more than greedy corporations ripping off the general public for all they have with politicians all in their pockets. "Healthcare" today is 'Health Don't Care" and does everything it can simply to make tons in profit with no regard to your health or general welfare. The same goes for big oil companies and most other corporations. The Middle-class has become slaves in poverty while the super rich continue to fool you with their propaganda. It's unbelieveable that the general public continues to fight for the very people screwing them over completely.

usnpops| 5.13.10 @ 2:21PM

You sound to me like either one or two people I know.
1. On Welfare or un-employment, one of the 40 million people getting food stamps,and not willing to go out and look for work till it expires. And constantly complain how hard it is to get by.
2. Totally ignorant of the way our society worked so well for the past 200+ years. Those that get off their keisters, and work for it get the gold. So if you aint got any gold, it's your fault, not the government's .

In all my years in the working enviornment, I was never hired by a poor person. So getting rid of the rich and spreading their wealth can only work for so long. Then the system fails. The Federal Government will soon be the biggest employer in the country, not including the military. So how long can those employed outside government afford to pay for those employees huge salaries?

Susan| 5.13.10 @ 3:00PM

bptr, calm down sugar, you & eolon untwist your whitie tighties, dress up in your 'yes we can' t-shirt or hoodie, join hands & go get some fresh liberal hot air. in your best interest, perhaps you should avoid this website if it's going to stress you out like this? really! there are others, such as msnbc., abc, cbs, nbc, etc., lots of 'em. 'n' try not to be a victim. peace out. i mean, look at the purp, he's having fun all by himself! (mmm, and they say we crazy conservatives spit out what we hear!)

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Occam's Tool| 5.13.10 @ 1:58PM

Please correct me if I'm wrong. The nomination requires a two thirds majority of the Senate to pass. Republicans have 41 seats. Vote to block, after a discussion of socialism. Keep blocking until they send a Lieberman liberal.

Nick| 5.13.10 @ 6:00PM

It only take 51 votes for the nominee to be confirmed.

But, thanks to the gang of 14, it takes 3/5, or 60 votes, to cut off debate (invoke cloture) to get to the vote on the nominee.

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The Socialist Judge: Elena Kagan and the Teachable Moment « Freedom Corner links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

The Socialist Judge: Elena Kagan and the Teachable Moment « Freedom Corner Freedom Corner May 13, 2010 The Socialist Judge: Elena Kagan and the Teachable Moment Filed under: Political commentary — Puff @ 10:01 am The Socialist Judge:…

Nicholas Wind | 5.13.10 @ 2:09PM

I'm a Canadian from Toronto.
San Francisco lite.
We are infested with liberal socialism and union entitlement programs exactly like where you Americans are headed.
Hope and change.
Interesting to watch folks.
From reading above it looks like some of you don't get that IT'S SMALL BUSIINESSES THAT EMPLOY THE MOST PEOPLE.
Just like here in Ontario and Canada as a whole.
As an old style conservative I am not a fan of large corporations either.
I think that model is broken.
I'm also not a fan of MORE GOVERNMENT.
Now that's a model that does not work and simply drains us dry via entitlement programs which the socialists love.
The problem folks is socialism can only last so long ...since the producers have a limit as to how much the nonproducers can keep taking.
Whne the looters start to control the producers it's as Ayn Rand wrote on page 410 of Atlas Shrugged..the end is near.
For you socialists you might want to educate yourself and read that page.
It contains more education than a Harvard Business degree apparently since that's what your marxist president has.
Ironically our Mayor here in Tororto has the same degree.
Go figure.

jfamis| 5.13.10 @ 2:16PM

progressive liberalism: a growing cancer that needs to have its blood supply cut off.
Corruption in the government has to stop, republicans and dems alike in office are in office for their own good, not the country at large.
Our politicians (especially obama and his minions) don't care what the people say, we are all stupid in their eyes. We are stupid for electing obama. We deserve what we get for voting him in. There will be a change in November.
don't care care what the people

Gerald Stephens| 5.13.10 @ 2:30PM

THE BATTLE OF TRENTON...

This is a moment of truth for the Nation. It is not enough for Republicans to stand ground. They must attack with full ferocity. This nomination must be defeated.

Any that think and act differently will find as did the Hessian troops at Trenton, no place to hide, at their next available election.

Lend the strength of your voice to the battle. Contact your senator, even be they a Democrat, and speak of their future.

Hartford, CT

usnpops| 5.13.10 @ 2:31PM

Change in November is the key here. But not just this November, every November.

The only way to a real solution to the graft, greed and malfeasance in washington DC is to limit terms for all of congress. And put the Government on the same retirement plans as the citizens. No More perks for life like they get now.

Make it so the ygo to Washington, work for awhile, and come home to tend the farm or whatever. The actual concept the founding fathers lived by. We were never supposed to be governed by a congress that for all practicl purposes is a permanent job once you get it.

eolon| 5.13.10 @ 3:47PM

When Franklin Communo Roosevelt started the Social Security" system, he said "Now at least the poor will have something...". Since then, Social Security has grown to an enormous sacred cow that does very little of what was originally intended, and vast quantities of the superfluous. Did you know that there are lawyers who specialize in arranging for elderly Chines nationals to come to the US and immediately receive Social Security Insurance payments? It is very popular in China, as you might imagine, because a 60-year old Chinese woman who has lived in squalor her intire life can come to the US to "retire" and cash a check for $2,500 every month. The US and SSI is like they died and went to the Socialist' heaven promised by Mao.

The US needs to erase Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, ADC, the Depts. of Education, Agriculture, H&HS;, and about 100 other departments. The 1 out of every 4 people in this country who work for the government will, sadly, have to actually work for a living, but hey, I guess it's baby with the bathwater.

Best Regards,

.::.

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matt matuszewski| 5.13.10 @ 5:21PM

This is a Well written article with much info about "nice Ms Kagan". Unfortunately the specifics of the nominee's political proclivities will never be imparted to the American electorate since the, so-called, mainstream media is pretty much controlled by left friendly elements; also, I'm afraid our spineless Republicn politicos in Congress are "too nice" to yell about the ants that are crawling into their pants.

wwwexler | 5.13.10 @ 7:02PM

"Because we are in the middle of a massively controversial presidency led by a man who has exhibited every intention of "transforming" America in the socialist image -- leading the country away from its capitalist heritage. This Supreme Court nomination does not, after all, come in a vacuum. Since taking office, the Obama administration has taken control of everything from car companies to financial institutions to banks to your health care."

Jeffrey Lord, you're either a very misinformed person or a flat-out liar.

The only "controversy" over Obama's Presidency is the false bullshit that the right wing media noise machine has repeated back and forth to each other. Obama is a center-right Democrat and everyone who has any knowledge of politics in America knows that. Your meme that he's a Kenyan socialist communist is just ignorant. Ignorant.

Your assertion that Obama has "taken control" of the car companies is patently absurd and totally inaccurate. The same goes for health care. The US government has no control over either of those private enterprises, PERIOD. IF you believe otherwise, please explain exactly how and what control the government is exercising over car companies, financial institutions and the health care industry. In fact, the government loaned them money to save them from going under, which would have put people like you out on the street (where you probably belong).

Sometimes I wonder how the RWNJs can get out of bed every morning and function. With the seething hatred and misinformation that races through your troubled minds, I can't help but think that you're all just one Rush Limbaugh accusation away from loading up your guns and starting to blaze away at anyone who looks "socialist" to you.

-Wexler

PS I already know that there will be people posting using my name and this rag does nothing to stop them. Therefore, this is the ONLY post I will do for this article.

Nick| 5.13.10 @ 7:14PM

"Therefore, this is the ONLY post I will do for this article."

Hoooray!

If only you hadn't made the first comment.

JmsA| 5.14.10 @ 1:21PM

"Therefore, this is the ONLY post I will do for this article. "

You promise?

Marc Jeric| 5.13.10 @ 7:41PM

If I had been born a woman, and also as ugly as Ginzburg, Sotomayor, or Kagan, I would also have become a socialist, marxist, revolutionary, or lesbian - or both. Bur fortunately...

Carolyn| 5.13.10 @ 10:18PM

Being a socialist and being sworn to uphold the U.S. Constitution are mutually exclusive belief systems. No one who is a socialist should be allowed to hold any office in the U.S. government, period, because their oaths of office are forfeit by virtue of them being socialists.

MattZ| 5.13.10 @ 10:53PM

I can't decide which paragraph is more ridiculous and patently wrong:

"We have a Supreme Court nominee who believes in "socialism's greatness." Socialism, then, is a highly relevant -- the highly relevant -- issue of this confirmation of an Obama nominated Supreme Court Justice."

"The notion that this President of the United States is a committed socialist is decidedly not beside the point. And as a symbol of the Obama administration Elena Kagan is a gift from the political MasterCard."

Obama's not a socialist. He's not even left-wing. Kagan is either qualified because she has the credentials, or she's not because she doesn't.
MZ

Nick| 5.13.10 @ 11:43PM

MikeyZ,

Where have you been?
You asked me to write out the tenets of liberalism, which I did, and you never commented. That is very rude.

They are above, in this thread, if you are interested. Or, I can re-post them, if that is to complicated for you.

MattZ| 5.14.10 @ 2:57PM

It's far too complicated. The only thing I remember reading was the insulting "The author just mentioned them in his bizzare poliemic" and I didn't think anybody would actually bother to analyze the philosphy and discuss it.

You're not exactly all that gracious yourself.
MZ

Nick| 5.14.10 @ 4:01PM

Here you go, MikeyZ. Enjoy!

***THE TENETS OF THE MODERN LIBERAL MOVEMENT***

The main reason people are "liberal", is because of licentiousness. Most of these sexual libertines just want to cheat on their spouse or engage in extra-marital relations.

But, a significant number are practitioners of a multitude of vile and disgusting sexual perversions. To justify their own immorality, they embrace others. This way, they can escape the charge of "hypocrite."

This is why the democrat party is a coalition.
Race-baiters ally themselves with homos, who ally themselves with tree-huggers, who ally themselves with atheists, etcetera, etcetera.

MattZ| 5.14.10 @ 6:02PM

Nick,

This is about one of the ugliest and most bigoted statements I think I've ever read. If you seriously believe a list of intolerant vitriol like that, it's no wonder that you seem like such an overzealous nutcase when you try to characterize people who don't share your narrow political views.

Have you met anyone in your entire life is who pro-terrorism? I swear, I've never met anyone who fits that description in my life. Even with their radical views about abortion and taxes, they still didn't like the idea of being bombed by twisted Muslims.

You need to moderate your crazy beliefs about a huge group of people who are just as normal and as outlandish as you are. Seriously.
MZ

Nick| 5.14.10 @ 6:55PM

MikeyZ,

I could give many examples, including all liberals who don't want to fight the war on terrorists, but I will give just two:

-Bill Ayres, an old liberal, who bombed police officers in the '70s. And is unapologetic about it. He is also a longtime friend of President Dither.

-Lynne Stewart, another big lib, who was convicted for passing messages from her terrorist "client" to a terrorist cell in Egypt.

These two, among many others, are very PRO-TERRORIST.

You need to read more, MikeyZ, and inform yourself.

MattZ| 5.14.10 @ 7:53PM

If you honestly believe that people who think, overall, the costly wars in Afghanistan and Iraq could have been avoided should be described as "pro-terrorist," then the gulf between us is far too wide to find much common ground.

War is easily as controversial as any other issue, and questioning someone's loyalty because of differences of opinion on this subject is wacky and wrong. An anti-war stance can be very principled and based on sincere convictions. You've got to be willing to admit that the future return on investment of these wars is highly questionable, and this is not meant to be a controversial statement.
MZ

Nick| 5.15.10 @ 12:43AM

MikeyZ,

What are we supposed to use against them, harsh language?

The only way to stop the terrorists, is to kill the terrorists. The fight is all over the world.

There were conservatives who made principled arguments against Operation Iraqi Freedom.
But Afghanistan?
Only the most lefty kooks argue we shouldn't have taken out the Taliban and al Qeada.

I notice you didn't argue about the two libs I listed.

Douglas W. Cooper| 5.14.10 @ 12:00AM

"Obama's not a socialist. He's not even left-wing."
Whoever believes this has not been paying attention. His autobiographies, his friends, his church, his votes, his rhetoric ... all argue to the contrary.

As Thatcher said, the problem with socialism is that it eventually runs out of other people's money.

The other important truth is that we get more of what we subsidize and less of what we tax. The brighter among us can figure out the consequences.

Bob Suden| 5.14.10 @ 12:01AM

Sorry Mr. Lord, but socialism? A teaching moment, you say? Just exactly what is it?

Politically Incorrect Answer whether you are a Dim or a Repug: It's govt. control of the economy.

Direct control is communism. Indirect control through regulation and collusion with big corporations is fascism.

Guess what?
We've had fascism in this country since at least 1913 and the institution of the Fed. Reserve, a private cartel/monopoly that price fixes the interest rate and controls the money supply.
And since the 1930's and the New Deal, we've had even more fascism.

But most of the senators - including the Republicans - don't want to to audit the Fed.
Why not? Because maybe we prefer fascism to Geo. W. Obama's outright communism.
But it's still socialism, whatever Ben Gleck and Flush Rumbaugh say.
The cage match/playpen food fight between the Dims and the Repugs may be amusing, but they are both socialists at heart. What's at issue it what flavor, whether the high school version or the grade school version. And until that is realized, all we are going to do is spin our wheels and listen to recriminations galore from both parties.
We need to discriminate against both versions of socialism, with a vengeance.
Thank you.

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Eleana Kagan And The Charade Of The Confirmation « links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…yet when they vote on legislation they prove otherwise. They’re not working for us, they answer too their Masters, the “too big to fail.” Why should they care that she’s a Socialist/Marxist? That’s the way our government has been acting as of late. They pass laws which no one knows what’s in the bill, or has even taken the time to read. On the one hand they…

Joe Tomanelli| 5.14.10 @ 6:46AM

Socialism needs to be imposed on the people and to do that the 2nd Amendment must be the first to go. She favors removing guns from society. Let's see how many Democrat Senators will fall on their sword to put a gun-hating, communist, who would confiscate their constituents guns, on the Supreme court?

Am I nuts, but has their been one single appointment by the Commie-in-Chief, to anything that did no have an America Hating background? I hope this nomination will break the camels back. (Pun Intended.)

Richard| 5.22.10 @ 1:47PM

WE THE PEOPLE…

…unite as one common people, as the leader, in a position of rule and strength, to serve for a noble and generous condition pertaining to be a free people united, living with others, in one body, open to all in the community, to preserve and to watch over the public interest, in action and practice for sharing the common duties to save and guard our position as a free people, and to be not affected by a given influence, nor subject to an obligation imposed on others.

Now if this sounds like a reasonable description of the meaning for the ideal principles upon which The United States of America was founded, and you agree to the general meaning of this statement, you are then agreeing with the following words and their original root meanings:

unite

state

democracy

republic

liberal

conservative

corporation

communism

socialism

capitalism

Here are those words and their original root meanings as sourced with Dictionary.com and Online Etymology Dictionary.com

United: L. unitus, unire, unus, “to unite”; “one”
State: L. status, “position, condition”
Democracy: L. democratia, Gk. demos, “common people” and kratos, “rule, strength”
Republic: L. respublica, “public interest, the state”; public: L. populus, “people, open to all in the community”
Liberal: L. liberalis, “noble, generous, pertaining to a free man”; from liber: “free”
Conservative: L. conservatus, “conservation”; conservare, “to save, preserve, to watch over, guard; con- “with, together”; serve, L. servire, “to serve”, “to attend to”
Corporation: L. corporationem, corporatus, corporare; “form into a body”, “united in one body”
Communism: L. communis, “sharing common duties”; com- “with, together”, -immune, “exempt, protected, not subject to an obligation imposed on others; not affected by a given influence”; -ism, suffix denoting “action or practice, a usage or characteristic”
Socialism: L. socialis, “united, living with others”; -ism, “action or practice”
Capitalism: L. capitalis, “of the head”, “capital, chief, first” (see “head”) > head: “chief person, leader, ruler”
”

It should be noted, that the only word in this list that places a single individual as a “chief person, leader, ruler” over other people, thus becoming subject to the temptations of either “good” or “evil” leadership or rule over people, is the word “capitalism”.

The United States of America: The Grand Experiment in unity through
diversity and The Golden Rule of Right Human Relations.

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