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Brian Mc| 4.23.10 @ 6:39AM

When I took the 'oath', I found that my Christian up-bringing and knowledge of Christian writing/teaching were in perfect lock-step with the contents of the Constitution.

With this in mind, with the ability to read what is blatantly stated, and quite openly, in the Koran and other Islamic reflections, how can a practicing Muslim be in the U.S. Military? They have either dis-regarded the teachings of the one, for the other, or...

Robert | 4.23.10 @ 9:40AM

Revisionist historians, Renegade Liberals, as George Orwell named them, write the propaganda that America is not a Christian nation, in the sense that her culture, values and Constitution in no way reflect Christian principle.

Alex deToqueville, forgive my spelling, in this magnum opus Democracy in America, tells of the Puritans who came to America not only to practice their religions, but create a government of freedom as their intention is particularly set forth in the Bill of Rights.

Purpleguy| 4.23.10 @ 9:51PM

It's Alexis de Tocqueville... and the Puritans came here to escape religious persecution and the freedom to practice their religion. They were happily British citizens for well over a 100 years. The American Revolution was in large part to throw off the yoke of the British Monarchy that treated Americans as second class citizens. The Bill of Rights was even further down the road in history in order to protect the minority from the abuses of majority rule - since they majority would always have their way.

Alan Brooks| 4.23.10 @ 11:09PM

"Alex deToqueville, forgive my spelling"

We know the correct spelling is de Tocqueville-- not Toqueville-- Please forgive our typos,
your Highness.

Alan Brooks| 4.24.10 @ 12:01AM

Robert was just being a dick about it, Purpleguy, saying we can't spell (or something).

He knew the spelling is de Tocqueville.

Read the line again.

jake1492| 4.23.10 @ 11:40AM

The United States enjoys freedom of religion and therfore, despite a strongly christian tradition, is not a christian nation. It is a secular nation. Your reading of the constitution appears to be selective...perfectly aligned....as long as you only read the parts you want to see....

David T.| 4.23.10 @ 3:52PM

Dear jake1492
The U.S. may not be a Christian nation, but it certainly wasn't founded as a "secular nation," either The Constitution was the product of Christian men and others who were steeped in Christian ethics and traditions. It could not have been written by secularists or men of any other religious persuasion.

Purpleguy| 4.23.10 @ 10:11PM

You are so wrong. Apparently, you don't know the Founders as well as you think or you have been brainwashed by the Right Wing Spin Machine.
"The Government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion" - John Adams, from the Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11. OR - how do you reconcile this:
" One day the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in the United States will tear down the artificial scaffolding of Christianity. And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as His Father, in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." Thomas Jefferson, from a letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823. OR -
"Some books against Deism fell into my hands .. It happened that they wrought an effect on me quite contrary to what was intended by them; for the arguments of the Deists, which were quoted to be refuted, appeared to me much stronger than the refutations, in short, I soon became a thorough Deist." Benjamin Franklin, The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin. OR -
My own mind is my own Church. All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human interventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit. " - Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason.
Go look it up if you don't believe me, but the Founders DID NOT found this country with anything but keeping religion as far from the Government as possible. They feared, nay, even hated religion's power should it get entangled with the Government. These are the FACTS!

Alan Brooks| 4.23.10 @ 11:20PM

"They feared, nay, even hated religion's power should it get entangled with the Government. These are the FACTS!"

It's no use arguing with these people, Purpleguy they are motivated by extremism, not conservatism-- what is on Earth is being conserved today? Also notice how the spiritual content of Christianity eludes them entirely? And they wonder why Obama is POTUS??
Let these self-defeating GOP fools run Jeb Bush, Neil Bush, Palin... Tricia Nixon... for president this decade; let them find out the hard way that the end of the Cold War has left them clueless, and casting about for a conservative identity that they cannot find.

carnot| 4.25.10 @ 9:32AM

oh baby! we're back to the slandering and demonizing so well honed by the government...ooops...Obama Zombies leading up to the election. Purple guy presents one example...window dresses with a an avalanche of undocumented assertions.... and the fric part of frick and frac rolls in with affirmative and congratulatory support. this MO is so old fellas - you and Mr Plouffe need to develop a better, newer schtick.

well...here's an inviting assertion with no real supporting context either (or is there?): team Obama and the Dems are gonna get blown away this Nov.....and when the pent up consumption is expended this Summer....the double dip will occur with a vengeance next year as the real onslaught of taxes become visible. then....we (meaning the persistent unemployed, under-employed and over-taxed) can all be miserable together while Purple-spinner and Brooks-no-truth get to feel virtuous!!!

carnot| 4.25.10 @ 9:47AM

are you always this disingenuous in your thinking? truly astounding. religion, of course, serves more than one purpose - not just spiritual, not just one among many competing interest groups (the part that scares you and purple-prevaricator) influencing government, not just one agency working to improve its communities......but also as an institution that works to inculcate and sanction a particular moral structure. the founding fathers knew this full well...and supported this role. it it this aspect that truly frightens the modern day purveyors of government moderated and enforced righteousness. their sangfroid perishes at the slightest pretense of a competing set of ends girded by a different, more Universal morality.

oh...and I'm not a religious person. never have been.

rrebell| 4.24.10 @ 3:11PM

Maybe they wanted no state religion, or any one religion over others, but I yet to read or hear that they wanted to exlude religion. Or as these days it called Judeo-Christian worldview and put it in the same level as islam. Maybe they were deists or even ateist in some cases, but their cultural and worldview and thinking was many many millons of gigamile closer to western Christianity than islam or any other non western idea.

Purpleguy| 4.24.10 @ 4:50PM

Well, read this dittohead from the writer of the US Constitution, of the Federalist Papers, Secretary of State and President of the United States:
"The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries."- James Madison
Can we put the issue to bed finally? The Founders feared religion, they didn't found the country as a Christian or any other religious denomination country. They were Christians, but did not want the Government anywhere near religion and vice a versa, period, end of story!

Nick| 4.25.10 @ 12:37AM

Pay no attention to PurpleJackass folks.

He doesn't even know that Virginia governors don't run for re-election because they can only serve one term, then have to wait 4 years to run again.

He also likes to berate others for spelling "hypocrisy" wrong, and in the same post he wrote "hypocrit", like a moron.

He is not worthy of debate with grown-ups.

John II| 4.25.10 @ 5:28PM

Vice a versa? That can't be right. Don't you mean "verse a vice"? Or how about "Visa Carda"? Or perhaps "Nice-a Verse-a," as in the Italian expression "Mama mia, that's-a nice-a verse-a in the great-a poet Dante!"

Anyhow, leaving aside your illiteracy, Purp, I have come to assure you that I can quote many, many others of the Founders insisting that the virtues inculcated by religion are absolutely necessary to the health of a representative democracy. Even the minority of Deists and atheists, by and large, were not hostile to religion per se. But they were nearly all adamantly against the establishment of any particular religion along the lines of the Anglican Church of England or the Roman Catholic Church of Spain or Italy. Only a few were motivated by latter-day Purp-like hostility against religion in general.

I'm-a thinking you're-a projecting, Purp, and that's-a no vice versa. And now back to my animal sacrifice rituals on the backyard barbecue.

Bydand76| 4.25.10 @ 7:47PM

Ok

Purple-douche and Mr Brooks
Get this through your head once and for all and quit posting on here with your inane stupidity.

John Adams:
“ The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity… I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.”
• “[July 4th] ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty.”
–John Adams in a letter written to Abigail on the day the Declaration was approved by Congress

More? ok!

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." --October 11, 1798

"I have examined all religions, as well as my narrow sphere, my straightened means, and my busy life, would allow; and the result is that the Bible is the best Book in the world. It contains more philosophy than all the libraries I have seen." December 25, 1813 letter to Thomas Jefferson

"Without Religion this World would be Something not fit to be mentioned in polite Company, I mean Hell." [John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, April 19, 1817] |

John Quincy Adams:
• “Why is it that, next to the birthday of the Savior of the world, your most joyous and most venerated festival returns on this day [the Fourth of July]?" “Is it not that, in the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior? That it forms a leading event in the progress of the Gospel dispensation? Is it not that the Declaration of Independence first organized the social compact on the foundation of the Redeemer's mission upon earth? That it laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity"?
--1837, at the age of 69, when he delivered a Fourth of July speech at Newburyport, Massachusetts.

Benjamin Franklin: | Portrait of Ben Franklin
“ God governs in the affairs of man. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured in the Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this. I also believe that, without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel” –Constitutional Convention of 1787 | original manuscript of this speech

“In the beginning of the contest with Britain, when we were sensible of danger, we had daily prayers in this room for Divine protection. Our prayers, Sir, were heard, and they were graciously answered… do we imagine we no longer need His assistance?” [Constitutional Convention, Thursday June 28, 1787]

In Benjamin Franklin's 1749 plan of education for public schools in Pennsylvania, he insisted that schools teach "the excellency of the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern."

In 1787 when Franklin helped found Benjamin Franklin University, it was dedicated as "a nursery of religion and learning, built on Christ, the Cornerstone."

Alexander Hamilton:
• Hamilton began work with the Rev. James Bayard to form the Christian Constitutional Society to help spread over the world the two things which Hamilton said made America great:
(1) Christianity
(2) a Constitution formed under Christianity.
“The Christian Constitutional Society, its object is first: The support of the Christian religion. Second: The support of the United States.”

On July 12, 1804 at his death, Hamilton said, “I have a tender reliance on the mercy of the Almighty, through the merits of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am a sinner. I look to Him for mercy; pray for me.”

"For my own part, I sincerely esteem it [the Constitution] a system which without the finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests." [1787 after the Constitutional Convention]

"I have carefully examined the evidences of the Christian religion, and if I was sitting as a juror upon its authenticity I would unhesitatingly give my verdict in its favor. I can prove its truth as clearly as any proposition ever submitted to the mind of man."

John Hancock:
• “In circumstances as dark as these, it becomes us, as Men and Christians, to reflect that whilst every prudent measure should be taken to ward off the impending judgments, …at the same time all confidence must be withheld from the means we use; and reposed only on that God rules in the armies of Heaven, and without His whole blessing, the best human counsels are but foolishness… Resolved; …Thursday the 11th of May…to humble themselves before God under the heavy judgments felt and feared, to confess the sins that have deserved them, to implore the Forgiveness of all our transgressions, and a spirit of repentance and reformation …and a Blessing on the … Union of the American Colonies in Defense of their Rights [for which hitherto we desire to thank Almighty God]…That the people of Great Britain and their rulers may have their eyes opened to discern the things that shall make for the peace of the nation…for the redress of America’s many grievances, the restoration of all her invaded liberties, and their security to the latest generations.
"A Day of Fasting, Humiliation and Prayer, with a total abstinence from labor and recreation. Proclamation on April 15, 1775"

Patrick Henry:
"Orator of the Revolution."
• This is all the inheritance I can give my dear family. The religion of Christ can give them one which will make them rich indeed.”
—The Last Will and Testament of Patrick Henry

“It cannot be emphasized too clearly and too often that this nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religion, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason, peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.” [May 1765 Speech to the House of Burgesses]

“The Bible is worth all other books which have ever been printed.”

John Jay:
“ Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.” Source: October 12, 1816. The Correspondence and Public Papers of John Jay, Henry P. Johnston, ed., (New York: Burt Franklin, 1970), Vol. IV, p. 393.

“Whether our religion permits Christians to vote for infidel rulers is a question which merits more consideration than it seems yet to have generally received either from the clergy or the laity. It appears to me that what the prophet said to Jehoshaphat about his attachment to Ahab ["Shouldest thou help the ungodly and love them that hate the Lord?" 2 Chronicles 19:2] affords a salutary lesson.” [The Correspondence and Public Papers of John Jay, 1794-1826, Henry P. Johnston, editor (New York: G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1893), Vol. IV, p.365]

Thomas Jefferson:
“ The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend to all the happiness of man.”

“Of all the systems of morality, ancient or modern which have come under my observation, none appears to me so pure as that of Jesus.”

"I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus."

“God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift from God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, and that His justice cannot sleep forever.” (excerpts are inscribed on the walls of the Jefferson Memorial in the nations capital) [Source: Merrill . D. Peterson, ed., Jefferson Writings, (New York: Literary Classics of the United States, Inc., 1984), Vol. IV, p. 289. From Jefferson’s Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, 1781.]

James Madison
“ We’ve staked our future on our ability to follow the Ten Commandments with all of our heart.”

“We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We’ve staked the future of all our political institutions upon our capacity…to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.” [1778 to the General Assembly of the State of Virginia]

The Founding Fathers of the Republic based everything on their religion. What you two schmucks fail to see is that they did not want the STATE to say that any one religion was better than the other (i.e The Church if England or Scotland)

You two intellectual nincompoops need to back to school something fierce.

Pro Libertate!

Sam| 4.25.10 @ 7:20PM

There is considerable evidence that supports the idea that this country was founded on a judeo-Christian basis. However, the most important fact about American is that it is a pluralistic nation, full of many cultures and religions. What I don't like is Christians whining about how they're being mistreated and disrespected, then go around writing and supporting articles that slander and misrepresent Islam. That's exactly what this article does.

And I have a HUGE problem with equating anti-Christian to anti-American. You can be a true American and still dislike Christians and their faith.

John II| 4.26.10 @ 7:02PM

You clearly haven't studied Islam or even read the Qur'an. Such blithering remarks always put me in mind of Gibbon and the question, "Why do western folks who 'dislike Christians and their faith' almost always feel warm fuzzies toward Islam, which actually practices all the depredations that western secularists attribute to Christianity?"

Why?

(Notice how there is no way on earth that anybody is ever going to read this buried posting. We Christians are so committed to the Truth that we announce it to the winds, including windy secularists. I plumb reckon.)

John of Virginia| 4.23.10 @ 9:30PM

Must agree with you, Brian Mc. I took the same oath to protect and defend, and have never found a conflict with my Christian beliefs.

Also, since Islam is a political religion, meaning it calls for a theocratic state under sharia, I don't see how a practicing Muslim can take our oath and not be lying. That is, there is an inherent conflict between Islam and freedom of conscience. There is no such conflict for this Baptist.

Brian Mc| 4.24.10 @ 7:21AM

Thanks for the retort, J.o.Va.

I was starting to wonder if anyone caught the jist of my remark. Show the left an opening and they immediately go off on a tantrum/tangent your remarks never intended. Bigmo, below, needs to go to Jihadwatch and be very afraid. It IS NOT PROPOGANDA, for, "It is Written". And, once I started to see portions of the "Quran" in action at that website, well, eye-opening would be an understatement.

As far as I'm concerned, I still hold to my oath...obviously, the good Major in question here...did not. And his reasoning was...?

JimS| 4.23.10 @ 7:17AM

Wasn't Hasan on Obama's transition team in 2008? I believe he was.
If you were Hasan's commanding officer, wouldn't you be hesitant to investigate soemeone with stroke in the White House?
Shouldn't that also raise questions about this Administration's "No Terrorist Left Behind" policy? Bill Ayers, Hasan, CAIR?

Ken (Old Texican)| 4.23.10 @ 10:10AM

JimS,

I hope you were joking above. "Transition team member"? Heh, not really...I hope!

Deborah D| 4.23.10 @ 12:06PM

No, Ken, he's correct. You can find a story and World Net Daily about it. I tried a couple of times to post the link, but Amspec is kicking me out as spam, so I'll try later. Google "Hasan Obama Transition".

Al Adab| 4.23.10 @ 1:12PM

Deborah is correct Ken. Hassan was a part of the transition team. I'm sure it was as part of a mulim outreach, diversity thing. You know how the Left believes in that stuff on Faith. The road to Hell.. as they say.

Purpleguy| 4.23.10 @ 10:20PM

Those pesky facts that y'all tend to ignore when they don't fit your argument ... here's the facts, not that you care:
"It's true that in the January 2009 proceedings report of the HSPI Presidential Transition Task Force, a project of George Washington University's Homeland Security Policy Institute, accused Ft. Hood killer Nidal Malik Hasan is listed as a "participant."

http://urbanlegends.about.com/....._hasan.htm

Purpleguy| 4.23.10 @ 10:18PM

No it's not true ... here's the truth:
"It's true that in the January 2009 proceedings report of the HSPI Presidential Transition Task Force, a project of George Washington University's Homeland Security Policy Institute, accused Ft. Hood killer Nidal Malik Hasan is listed as a "participant."

However, HSPI and the Presidential Transition Task Force are purely academic bodies with no affiliation whatsoever to Obama's official Homeland Security transition team, according to a statement issed by the Institute, nor was Hasan ever a member, briefer, or featured speaker at any HSPI event.

In fact, Hasan was a Task Force "participant" only insofar as he registered to attend HSPI-sponsored public events as an audience member. " http://urbanlegends.about.com/....._hasan.htm

carnot| 4.25.10 @ 9:57AM

yawn...so...in short......once again...the Obama folks didn't do their homework and fact check the backgrounds. problem is...there are too many documented instances of America haters working in this administration not to believe there is...at some level...an orchestrated effort behind all of this.

R Martin| 4.23.10 @ 7:37AM

I live on a large rural property. I spend a lot of time outdoors and appreciate the beauty and, well, diversity of nature. That diversity includes lots of wildlife, including snakes. Most of those are completely harmless--garter snakes, blacksnakes and the eastern milk snakes and, in their own way, beautiful and fascinating. However, there are some varities which are not harmless--copperheads and timber rattlers. Accordingly, when I'm in the woods, I keep a sharp eye out, and carefully observe any snake I encounter. Is that profiling? Of course. I do it because it would be stupid not to. Why in the world should one not apply the same standards in "polite society" where some groups of people have a long history of intolerant, violent , aggressive and dangerous behavior? I have no problem profiling those people either. Nor should the U.S. Army.

Michael L. Hauschild| 4.24.10 @ 8:14AM

On my great Uncles back porch on a ranch in the Sand Hills of Nebraska, leaning against the wall was the “trash can companion.” When taking the trash to the “burn barrels” in the morning you would often encounter rattlesnakes. The “companion” was a three foot section of tree limb to the end of which was baling wired a sixteen inch section of log chain. Etched into the grips of my 1911 are the initials TCC: it is my small contribution to the text message fad. Both of these tools are discretionary, simple to operate, and perform exactly the same function.

R Martin| 4.25.10 @ 7:28PM

It doesn't surprise me that you base your grand theory on a simple comparison to snakes in your rural haven. Humans are not snakes!

You cannot determine whether a human being is dangerous based on their color or ethnicity. When you say some groups have a history, you mean that they have a history in your mind of committing terrorist acts. In some ways, that's understandable. The media floods us with unfavorable images of Islam and Arabs in general, never bothering to do stories on the vibrant Arab American communities or Islam as it truly is and not how a few sickos have distorted it.

Do not let yourself fall pray to the sensationalist media. They will tell you what sells and if that isn't the truth, then so be it, they say. You as a conservative should know that the media generally has a liberal slant and can be manipulated. You need to be more skeptical of the media and stop letting them influence your perceptions and opinions.

Career Trooper| 4.23.10 @ 7:45AM

The same military command pressure to "shut up or else" that allowed Hasan to stay in uniform, is currently being used to further Admiral Mullen's "gimme the gays" policy. It didn't work then, and it won't work now.

Oh sure, our professional soldiers continue to go about the work of manning the battlements while the King raves madly in the great hall. Thankfully inept leadership is self limiting. Crap may roll down hill, but eventually it starts to pile up and stink at the bottom!

Louis Jenkins| 4.23.10 @ 8:16AM

The name calling begins, but the truth is that there is a fly in the ointment, or flies, which ever. The fly reaches out for help, and achieves a lift up from none other than the Pretender n Chief. Do we think that things will change? While the honorable major may get a life time of prison he will not get a life terminating sentence. Then again, he may not get neither. He may get a medal pinned on his chest by the Pretender.

jake1492| 4.23.10 @ 12:08PM

"pretender in chief" nice insult...perhaps a bit of "name calling".

Obama is a very good president. He has a solid grasp of both the security needs of the country and the broad range of domestic issues, including those government functions that our compassionate christian and secular heritage motivate us to provide.

The name calling begins.... read your own post.

NavyBrat| 4.23.10 @ 12:36PM

Wait, lemme guess, you're a satirist. Because only a satirist would write such things. His "solid grasp" of security needs? Like whitewashing, for political preservation, the extent of this scum, Hasan's activities? Like getting more worked up over an apartment building in Jerusalem than over the fact that the Iranians will have a nuke within 15 months? Like worrying about the fact that they'll have ICBM (that can hit our country) capabilities for said nuke by 2015? Or cancelling the F-22, unilaterally retiring the Tomahawks, or missile defense due to the protestations of the Neo Soviet thug, Putin?

Yeah, that's about as solid as Jell-O. The bong water is not for drinking, junior.

Purpleguy| 4.23.10 @ 10:39PM

Nice recitation of talking points. Everything you mentioned saves money - are you advocating spend, spend, spend? Are you really afraid of Iran? Really? You conveniently have forgotten about the world nuclear summit where Obama convinced 47 nations to give up the nucs and signed a deal with the Russians to reduce the huge stockpiles of our 2 countries. Rid the world of nuclear weapons? Seems like a good grasp on security to me. Obama continues Reagan's dream of a nuclear-free world. You might want to drop the talking points - they aren't very sharp points anymore.

Bilbo| 4.24.10 @ 12:23AM

Nice recitation of talking points, purpleguy! Obama hasn't talked anyone into "giving up nukes". The reduction of our technologically superior nuclear arms to parity with the Russians signals a victory for the assassin, Putin, not for peace. I would also point out that we have nuclear armed enemies besides the Russians (the Chinese, for example). Why act like this is 1961? This treaty is dangerously stupid.
The dream of a nuclear-free world is nice, and may be possible once the world becomes free instead of a collection of mostly totalitarian states of one form or another.
I REALLY AM AFRAID of what Iran will do if it gets nukes, so are countless policy experts around the world! Perhaps you are not aware of what a bunch of insane religious fanatics the Iranian leadership consists of. You sound as if such fears are irrational. They are not.
Why don't you respond in detail to Navybrat's "talking points", rather than speaking in glittering generalities? His points, unlike yours, are extremely sharp.

Purpleguy| 4.24.10 @ 4:35PM

Very well, not that you would listen - "Like whitewashing, for political preservation, the extent of this scum, Hasan's activities?" - you must prove that one - and don't tell me he was part of Obama's transition team - that's a bald-faced lie. http://urbanlegends.about.com/.....hasan.htm.
"Like getting more worked up over an apartment building in Jerusalem than over the fact that the Iranians will have a nuke within 15 months?" First off, any idiot knows that until there is a Palestinian-Israeli peace settlement, the powder keg to light upheaval in the Middle East is still there. By continuing Israeli settlement of disputed territory makes negotiations much harder to proceed with. " Iran having nuclear material is much more worrisome than an ICBM, which is what I was referring to. " Like worrying about the fact that they'll have ICBM (that can hit our country) capabilities for said nuke by 2015?" The ICBM threat is less an issue than a dirty bomb from a terror org. "Or cancelling the F-22" - most in the military agreed, including the Republican Secretary of Defense, as did most Senators, and others in a position to know more than we do, the F-22 is not needed, and we already have 147 of them anyway. "Unilaterally retiring the Tomahawks" - that one I don't know about being true or just misinformation, " or missile defense due to the protestations of the Neo Soviet thug, Putin? " - A missile defense that doesn't really work, but heightens tensions is no defense at all. Ergo it was removed. due to protestations of Putin? - you'll have to prove that one. Have a nice day!

Al Adab| 4.23.10 @ 1:14PM

Oh Jake1492. Surely you jest.

"Charity is no part of the legislative duty of government." James Madison

Purpleguy| 4.24.10 @ 4:45PM

Nope, he doesn't ... Y'all have a stilted view of the Founders....
"The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries." - James Madison
"Whenever a youth is ascertained to possess talents meriting an education which his parents cannot afford, he should be carried forward at the public expense." - James Madison

Ret. Marine| 4.23.10 @ 8:27AM

This incident (the Hort hood terror attack) is at the foot step of the usurper-n-thief known to his jihadist pal's as hussein obama. The buck stopped at his desk when he tried to wash away (through the news blackout) his relationship to Maj. Nadal Hasan. He is not without some skin in this investigation. If the lamebrained media had any sense of worth or revelence to what is the American way they would be on this like stink on shit.
Diversity is a cancer upon this nation. The good General ( Boykin) spoke to his faith and the lamebrained media liked to tear this warrior a new a-hole, why, well because he's a Christian. He is not the only Christian warrior ( although he never expressed his desire for a Christian war/crusade against this demon cult known as islam) who will stand up for the fundamental Christian belief that if you make war against a Christian society, in which they have no problem telling us of their intent, we will in turn war against you for our rights to believe as we do be it out of self preservation or otherwise.
The problem with all of this started with the Bush Admin. when he openly stated this is a religion of peace, it could not be futher from the truth. This is a cult who have snaked their way throughout their history by the wanton killing, segragation, subjagation, threats, and intiminidation and they call it a peaceful religion, right, like hussein obama is not a muslim, sure I get it.
If Bush had had the moral courage to call a spade a spade we as a Nation at war with islamic terrorist would have kicked their arses back to the stoneage by now saving thousands of lives in the process and made it crystal clear that the next step would be complete and utter destruction of their mosques (generals headquarters) in medina and mecca. . But, no we can't have that now can we because bush say's so. And besides where would many of the current admin's handlers be without the financing of the muslims they call peaceful, examples you ask? Why is dick durbin called turbin durbin, why did the hildabeast (hillary klinton after public disclosure) give back to the muslim orginazitions 50K + in campaign contributions, the list goes much futher than this but, you get the point. The demonrat party thinks they can controll this nasty monkey (islam) by colluding with them. But they fail to understand that when push comes to shove, this warrior, even though retired and physically messed up will join in on the final battle chasing them back to hell where they belong. We have a lack of leadership and spineless wusses calling themselves American's.

Purpleguy| 4.23.10 @ 10:41PM

Sure glad you're retired jarhead.

carnot| 4.25.10 @ 10:05AM

since you have no idea whatsoever of how the military operates and what the true threats are.....our USMC friend should feel honored! when the clueless and unengaged whimper, whine and contemn...you know you have served honorably and well!

thanks Mr Jarhead.....from a retired haze grey and underway type.

maverick muse| 4.23.10 @ 8:57AM

God Bless General Boykin and true American Military Heroes whose honor is fidelity to our Constitution rather than false pride of the PC Brass fueling political aggression driving America into corporate military-industrial Marxism through their own efforts and selfish career plotted goals.

Politically Correct Sabotage amounts to this administration's treason. There is no mistake on Obama's part, as all his havoc is alertly intentional.

Taking down the US Military is too easy for the American Marxists.

The great American Military is destroying itself from within, top down. Brass be damned for not protecting the US Constitution above their very selfish careers; and I do distinguish and discriminate their past personal claim for selfless sacrifice on the battlefield in my criticism of their current gluttony for power and prestige and BENEFITS. But so like the "greatest generation" returning from WWII, there is such a thing as TOO MUCH DEMANDED IN RETURN proceeding into this damned US Socialism based on the false sense of "DESERVE". Deserve has nothing to do with it. Ask William Munny.

maverick muse| 4.23.10 @ 9:16AM

"If Bush had had the moral courage to call a spade a spade we as a Nation at war with islamic terrorist would have kicked their arses back to the stoneage by now saving thousands of lives in the process and made it crystal clear that the next step would be complete and utter destruction of their mosques (generals headquarters) in medina and mecca."

Neoconservatives are simply another breed of Socialists wearing PC Republican sheep's clothing to fool the foolish.

Like Trumann, GWBush also failed to cut to the chase. Trumann refused to consider well the only solution to the Korean Conflict that Gen. MacArthur prompted to occur (and what Patton would have advised to accomplish)--and began the long suffering PC entrenchment for our American Military to endure. Put them in situation after situation to suffer endless combat without the directive to do what it takes to obliterate the enemy. The Oval Office pulls out and sues for a truce rather than win and establish terms for peace so that the world could enjoy free trade. Ah, there it is. After considering Eisenhower's WHO ME? "Beware the Military Industrial Complex" speech, I've come to despise him for promoting all of that very thing throughout his entire career both in military, politics and "retirement" business investments; and then acting out of cowardice he washes his hands of his guilt as he left office. AS IF that cleansed him, by his final, "Oh, BTW, you've all been suckered and I'm not going to let you in on how to disengage what I've administered being built."

As both major parties asked him to run for potus on their ticket, did Eisenhower change party from Democrat to Republican as one of the first politicians to promote the conversion of the Republican Party into national socialism -- government contracts for public works given to preferential insider "too big to fail" corporations for all those highways and public works?

Deborah D| 4.23.10 @ 9:30AM

No one should be surprised by anything this president does. Whatever is logical, practical or normal to your everyday American, this president does the exact opposite.

Suck up to enemies? Check. Bad mouth, ignore or humiliate allies? Check. Bad mouth normal, everyday Americans (Tea Partiers, just a case in point)? Check. Leave America vulnerable to enemy attack, either through Iranian nukes or any other nukes or via terrorist attack? Check. Sweep terrorist's in the Army under the rug? Check. Spend the U.S. into bankruptcy? Check. Raise taxes on everyone to pay for that bankruptcy? Check. Spend, spend, spend so you can tax, tax, tax? Check.

Don't you love it when Dems own the executive, legislative and a good portion of the judicial branch? It's also so good for the American people.

Al Adab| 4.23.10 @ 11:32AM

CHECK!

Aelfgyva| 4.24.10 @ 12:55PM

And let's not forget: they also control education in this country, turning out armies of little red-leaning darlings AND they run the MSM, controlling the thinking patterns of the unwashed masses.

Dietrich| 4.23.10 @ 9:53AM

"Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse,” General George Casey. 14 deaths are a small price to pay for our wonderful diversity? This rot preceded Obama. He will only accelerate it .

GW| 4.23.10 @ 2:20PM

This is where the real problem lies. In the mindset of these PC nuts. But this is what the American government is more concerned about. Diversity, racial/gender quotas, "equality", etc. Not safety.

carnot| 4.25.10 @ 10:09AM

let's not get carried away here. the issue isn't diversity. honor, integrity, sacrifice, etc., are not color-bound, racial specific qualities.

the issue is recognizing and controlling the threat - and that is where the PC culture has abdicated all responibility.

Petronius| 4.23.10 @ 10:24AM

General Boykin has not, unlike some fundy cadets at our service academies, used his authority as a commissioned officer to coerce his junior officers or enlisted men to accept his beliefs.
But the liberals look at the government as their personal possession. So officers like General Boykin are interlopers; an affliction to be expunged.

Ken (Old Texican)| 4.23.10 @ 11:00AM

Well,

Every military seems to have a good REMF cohort of careerists. I guess we just have to accept that as a given.
But.

There is a much larger question that must be wrestled with by the American people and our congress..... and..... and our Supreme Court.

Some how we have got to "de-couple" the Islamic religion from our consensus FOR freedom of religion.

Now, that should not be at all impossible, but hugely difficult to be sure.

To the best of my knowledge, the Koran is the only religious text that expects and even "requires" holy war, dhimmitude, and/or death of everybody except muslim males.

Folks, that makes it a "death/slavery cult"...doesn't it?
It seems to me then, the only muslims that we need not suspect or fear...are the badly "backslidden" ones....or the secretly foresworn ones .

It seems to me that we might have in fact been in an unacknowledged "Holy War" with Islam, since the day our "Declaration of Independence" was signed .
.........You know...the".....Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" words?

Was Our "Declaration of Independence" in fact a declaration of war in muslim minds?

Margie| 4.23.10 @ 12:15PM

Indeed it is a declaration of war in their minds. Freedom is the opposite of their Satanic Koran.
It's spiritual warfare. Their murderous phony Allah against the God of all Creation.

NFNanna| 4.23.10 @ 11:20AM

I had the pleasure of working for Gen Boykin during his last active duty tour. He is without a doubt one of the finest leaders the Army produced, a certified hero, and inspiring officer and great man. Those that attacked him are not worthy of shining his jump boots! We insult him when we even mention that human debris in the same sentance
Marine Col

Crusader| 4.23.10 @ 11:31AM

What exactly is "radical islam" or a "radical jihadist?" Did Maj Hasan radically alter the words of the "prophet" mohammed when he killed 14 infidels? Are jihadists actions radically different than the example set by mohammed? If not, then why do we call them "radical," as if they are somehow mutating or interpreting islam incorrectly?

We do it because we are uncomfortable with the Truth. And when you boil it down, isn't that the problem with just about everything wrong in America now? Imagine if we applied Truth to islam, or the border, or the public schools, or the deficit, or drilling for oil, etc etc etc. Instead we PC everything and meanwhile our country is dying. Oh well.

Shrug.

Gr0w1er| 4.23.10 @ 1:47PM

Truth hurts. Denial is less painful.

Larry C. Roberts, MD, MA| 4.23.10 @ 11:53AM

Having served for over 12 years in the USAF, 5 of those in flying squadrons, I can assure you that even the most aggressive fighter pilot with cajones like basketballs will shrivel at the first mention of diversity training. They walk about like men in a minefield, neutered by the perfumed princes like Gen. Casey. The latter is a disgrace to his uniform. I'll bet he voted for the Prophet Obama like another weasel, Wesley Clark.

Purpleguy| 4.23.10 @ 10:52PM

I sure hope you are former USAF .. we sure don't need troglodytes protecting us ..

serge baruch| 4.25.10 @ 12:13AM

You missuse pronouns. Especially the one "we". You surely don't represent anybody, except a sorry mob of troglodyte Marxists, so it's not for you do decide who WE need for protection.

Use "I", it suits your Narcissistic self much better.

carnot| 4.25.10 @ 10:13AM

BINGO!!!!!!!!

Kent Lyon| 4.23.10 @ 12:26PM

Does the official Pentagon dis-invitation of Franklin Graham to the national prayer day events (he was to be the keynote speaker) mean that the U.S. is now officially an anti-Christian nation? They have suppressed the foremost Christian among us, which is a symbolic policy act that speaks endless volumes about the nature of the current US government--viciously anti-Israeli (anti-Semitic?), anti-Christian, and pro-Islamic.

Louis Jenkins| 4.23.10 @ 5:19PM

It is ashamed that Franklin Graham cannot be the keynote speaker. I called his organization on the carpet. We were putting school aged toys, pencils, notebooks, etc., in shoe boxes. Did that for several years. In reality we were propping up a society that does not value the children. Never heard anything back from him, but that is okay. The Islamofacist do not place value on their children, unless they have a bomb tied around their waist.

Purpleguy| 4.23.10 @ 10:57PM

Well, if Jimmy Carter had evacuated the Iranian Embassy when he admitted the Shah for medical treatment, we might have all been spared the Iranian Revolution. This was a smart move to avoid putting our troops in more harm's way by rubbing the Islamic country's nose in the words of Franklin Graham denigrating the 2nd largest religion in the world. Beat your chest like King Kong and pretend you carry the biggest stick (or is that dick), but it's a lot harder to take the safe route rather than the violent.

Sean Micheal| 4.23.10 @ 12:58PM

Someone please tell me why: Christmas is a Federal holiday, the Post office is closed on sunday, Unions get additional pay for sunday work, schools shut down for Easter vacation?

Muslims worship on friday(I think; could not care less), Jews worship on saturday, I'm struggling for the answer here.

arlo price| 4.23.10 @ 1:05PM

The obamagedon PIMP thugocracy chugs along......

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Gr0w1er| 4.23.10 @ 1:19PM

Hasan didn't merely 'threaten'. He 'terminated with
extreme prejudice'. Sanitized terminology for murder.

GreyLion| 4.23.10 @ 3:27PM

You know, we used to hear stories, rumors really, about some of the officers that never made it back. Word had it that some lowly PFC or other had had enough of some ticket puncher and decided to take matters into his own hands. We called that practice "fraggin'" and we were certain that we would never "frag" any officer of the Corps even if we thought about it sometimes.
Maj. Hassan makes me think that the practice of "fraggin" might be making a comeback soon. If the brass won't take care of the problem then I guess the grunts will have to. Just like always.

Purpleguy| 4.23.10 @ 10:59PM

You should be very afraid if the gays with guns turn on you ... they are the best soldiers ...

serge baruch| 4.25.10 @ 12:21AM

Looks like them queers are best FOR YOU in any regard, eh?

carnot| 4.25.10 @ 10:15AM

and you would know this how?

Nick| 4.25.10 @ 12:22PM

Why should I be afraid?

They will be easy to spot.
Wearing their tutus and carrying barrels of Vaseline, and all.

davelnaf| 4.23.10 @ 8:09PM

The truth about liberalism is that it has always been something of a fringe movement in this country. Its champions have always pretended otherwise, of course, ignoring the fact that a blizzard of lies perpetrated by the Bamster during the campaign helped to put them atop the political heap in Washington.

Will they remain there forever? It all depends on your point of view. For example, if you believe the Tea Party people are "seditious," "racist," and "mean spirited" libs get to stay where they are for a very long time.

Tyler S.| 4.23.10 @ 8:46PM

The REAL secret about liberalism is that, while you're right that it is a fringe of society (and proud of it, might I add) it is the fringe which pulls the center to the left. Look at the world today versus 100 years ago and tell me one single area where the country hasn't moved toward the liberal ideal. We have made great strides in terms of civil rights, general welfare, social services, and federal empowerment. The liberals stay a fringe because every time they become the mainstream and achieve the goals of a generation, a new generation raises up on their fringe to pull us through the next leg of the journey. I mean, if conservativism EVER got its way, ask yourselves, would this country look ANYTHING like it does now? I suspect it would be a much more scaled back government primarily relegated to the states, which generally kept tax and regulation low while not providing social services. And yet, we live in something far closer to the liberal ideal. The sad fact is, all your rhetoric aside, it is the liberal fringe, not the conservative fringe, which determines this country's future. The wheels of liberty, my friends, turn only one way, to the left.

I welcome your reasoned objections to this statement.

arlo price| 4.23.10 @ 9:50PM

The obamagedon PIMP thugocracy chugs along....

The sad fact is:
Socialism works (sorta') until you run out of other peoples money.

BTW exactly where in the Constitution does it say that government is to provide social services? Ohh that's right, spll / jihadist don't believe in a permanent Constitution except the one that the elitst ruling class wants to implement and change routinely at their every whim.

The wheel turns full circle.

Purpleguy| 4.23.10 @ 11:06PM

You are completely correct, Sir. It amazes me how many on the right wing profess to believe in America, when they clearly hate Americans. From the Founders on, America has stood for progressive, liberal ideas, as opposed to the far more conservative European countries. Communism is much closer to Conservatism while Democracy is closer to Socialism, but understanding is skewed at this time due to the right wing echo chamber talking to itself.

Bilbo| 4.24.10 @ 2:24AM

You state "From the Founders on, America has stood for progressive, liberal ideas, as opposed to the far more conservative European countries". What do you mean by "progressive"? If you are using this as a euphemism for socialism, then you couldn't be more wrong. The founders believed in limited government, as outlined in the U.S. Constitution, while Europe is far more socialistic than the USA. Europe was "far more conservative" than the U.S.? In what way? What do you mean by "conservative"? What do you mean by "liberal"? The term "liberal" originally meant what call we call LIBERTARIAN today in America, though it retains the same meaning in Europe that it once had in America (before it was stolen by the left). People we call "conservatives" today are in fact people whom we would have labeled "liberals" a hundred years ago. Do you think that so-called conservatives don't want change? We do-drastic change and a return to the concepts of the founders.
You make the further statement that "Communism is much closer to Conservatism while Democracy is closer to Socialism". In what way is communism "closer to conservatism" when the former embraces government ownership of the means of production and the dictatorship of the proletariat, while the latter believes in free enterprise and constitutional, limited government? How is anyone's understanding of these easily obtainable facts "skewed"?
Socialism is indeed close to democracy, in that mobs in a democracy and under socialism are able to trample on the rights of others via the vote (particularly property rights). The U.S. is NOT a democracy, it is a constitutional republic with democratic elements. Under the Constitution, there are limits to the power of "the people", excepting that these provisions be removed via the tortuous amendment process (e.g., "the people" cannot simply vote away the right of free speech on a ballot).
The founding fathers never referred to the U.S. as a "democracy", they called it a republic and mocked democracy as "mobocracy" (at least most of them did). A woman after the constitutional convention asked Franklin, "What kind of a government have you given us, Dr. Franklin?" He replied, "A republic, if you can keep it".

Purpleguy| 4.24.10 @ 4:19PM

Liberals are people who are under the only partially mistaken impression that altering the structure of government is the best way to influence people and resources. Conservatives are people who are under the only partially mistaken impression that altering the people in power is the best way to influence other people and their culture.
Communism is conservative. Fewer and fewer people have any say in how the economy works. Republicans are conservative. Fewer and fewer people (preferably just people controlling the Party figurehead) have any say in how the government works. The conservatives in the US are in the same position as the communists in the 30s, and for the same reason: Their revolutions failed spectacularly but they refuse to admit what went wrong.
http://www.romm.org/soc_com.html

A common mistake is to confuse Socialism, the economic system, with Communism, the political system. Communists are "socialist" in the same way that Republicans are "compassionate conservatives". That is, they give lip service to ideals they have no intention of practicing.

A common mistake is to confuse Socialism, the economic system, with Communism, the political system. Communists are "socialist" in the same way that Republicans are "compassionate conservatives". That is, they give lip service to ideals they have no intention of practicing.

Socialism is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the economy works. Democracy is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the government works. "Democracy," said Marx, "is the road to socialism." He was wrong about how economics and politics interact, but he did see their similar underpinnings.

Skinner| 4.26.10 @ 5:20PM

You need to check your cut-and-paste skirt. You're DNC-talking-points slip is showing.
Goebbels admirer, maybe?

Jim Oz| 4.23.10 @ 10:43PM

The icing on the cake? For his entire life, Hassan was given Affirmative Action preference for all educational and employment opportunities.

Bilbo| 4.24.10 @ 1:46AM

If there was a religion whose membership consisted mostly of white people who were committing atrocities on the scale that certain members of the Islam Faith currently are (15,000+ terrorist attacks around the world since 9/11), the left would would not hesitate to denounce it. The disparate way in which Christians and Muslims are treated by many of our institutions, of which the case of General Boykin vs Major Hassan is a conspicuous example, is a direct result of their ideological capture by the left and of the RACIST knee-jerk impulses that masquerade as "thought" in leftist automatons.
In the "mind" of a leftist, Christianity is associated with white people (the "West") while Islam is associated with non-white people (dark skinned people with towels wrapped around their heads). The leftist has been successfully conditioned so that the idea of white people induces negative impulses in him, while the idea of non-white people induces positive impulses in him. Thus, his conditioned reflex is to attack the former and defend the latter in any situation. This reaction is itself racist, but the leftist is unable to see this because, as a result of his conditioning, he has great difficulty with rational concept formation (at least, in politics) and in accepting objective evidence that contradicts the notions with which he has been programmed. Anything that challenges this conditioning induces feelings of discomfort in him, so that he lashes out all the more at white people and attempts to construct elaborate rationales for doing so (such as "white racism").
The leftist is a dangerous but pitiful creature.

Rachael| 4.24.10 @ 3:16AM

Political correctness, liberals, and this current administration is destroying the best nation on earth. It's a horrible shame to see how Americans are no longer together as a people and divided as a nation. This is a nightmare playing out before our very eyes.

Bigmo| 4.24.10 @ 4:36AM

There is no violence in the Quran. If you would compare the Quran with the Torah in terms of violence, the Torah will KO the Quran in less than 10 seconds.

Sunni/Shiasm maybe, but they rely on Hadiths(oral traditions) and not on the Quran. The Hadith were compiled two or three centuries after Muhammad and plays the same role with Islam as the Talmud with Judaism. Jesus condemned the Talmud due to its Judeo-facism and the Quran also condemned the Talmud. The Hadiths that dominate Islam today(Sunni/Shia) also promotes Islamo-facism. But the Quran itself is the most freedom aspiring scripture in the face of the Earth.

Brian Mc| 4.24.10 @ 7:36AM

Bigmo,

Have you ever heard of Brigette Gabriel?

Also, you may want to watch the video, "Obsession Islam"...though I must warn you, it will require forty minutes of your valuable time. Go ahead and google it! Watch it! Then, after all that, you can come back and explain it all away...somehow.

Your final sentence is so repugnant that I'll admit to the wish that it should be expunged from your remark so that those who take your word for gospel, and fail to see this response to it, will NOT go away from this site with your twisted view of reality.

rrebell| 4.24.10 @ 3:41PM

You are comparing the Talmud with the Tora. The only problem with that that Judaism during its long history reformed itself, many times. Religious Jews are not stoning people because of adultery or homosexuality or for anything. They are not honor killing, gang raping their daughters or anybody's daughters. Saying anything about Moses will not be punished buy death.

Rich Rostrom| 4.24.10 @ 11:55AM

Bigmo:

Sura 33, Al Azhab (The Confederates), verse 26: "And those of the People of the Book who aided them - Allah did take them down from their strongholds and cast terror into their hearts. (So that) some ye slew, and some ye made prisoners. "

Sura 33, Al Anfal (The spoils of war) is devoted to making war against unbelievers and sharing out the booty.

Ben Dover| 4.24.10 @ 1:01PM

Purpleguy is clearly obama operative. This adminstration cannot tolerate any dissention to their proclamations and propaganda, they therefore must go on the attack even in the blogosphere. Joe would be so proud.

“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over”
Joseph Goebbels

GreyLion| 4.25.10 @ 8:04AM

Ben,
Purp isn't smart enough to represent himself let alone the magic one. All he does is carry water, and that not his own, for apologists on the left side of the planet.
We need to cut him some slack just like we do for others who are brain damaged, 'course he doesn't know his brain bucket is empty yet, but he will.

rrebell| 4.24.10 @ 3:31PM

I can not pass it. Unfortunatelly, in Jesus time the Babylonian Talmud did not exist; period. It was completed in the end of the 500's (A.D). The Jeusalem (or Palestinian) Talmud even later. So Jesus never condemned the Talmud because he did not know about it. I have never read the Hadits, but I have read the Qur'an and many parts of the Talmud I think you are a very confused person calling the Talmud "Judeo-Fascist" and the "Qur'an is the most freedom aspiring document in the face of the Earth". I am sure you have a good description what is "fascist" and what means most freedom aspiring.
If you getting your information from kookoo websites it will not widen your scope, but the opposite. Unless you are a moslem and belive this crap.

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Nick| 4.25.10 @ 12:39AM

Pay no attention to PurpleJackass folks.

He doesn't even know that Virginia governors don't run for re-election because they can only serve one term, then have to wait 4 years to run again.

He also likes to berate others for spelling "hypocrisy" wrong, and in the same post he wrote "hypocrit", like a moron.

He is not worthy of debate with grown-ups.

dennisl59| 4.25.10 @ 10:04AM

Bottom Line: These are faceless Bureaucrats in Uniforms, only interested in a paycheck, covering their asses and pointing fingers. They are a Disgrace to the Uniform and violators of their Oath. They have no Honor or Integrity. Furthermore they are despicable excuses for Americans. And every last one of them should be Court-martialed and put in Leavenworth at Hard Labor for Life. In my opinion.

RKV| 4.25.10 @ 11:08AM

To those who say "with anything but keeping religion as far from the Government as possible." I say - surely you jest. Or are as ignorant of the actual facts surrounding our country's founding as may be.

"It is no exaggeration to say that on Sundays in Washington during the administrations of Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) and of James Madison (1809-1817) the state became the church. Within a year of his inauguration, Jefferson began attending church services in the House of Representatives. Madison followed Jefferson's example, although unlike Jefferson, who rode on horseback to church in the Capitol, Madison came in a coach and four. Worship services in the House--a practice that continued until after the Civil War--were acceptable to Jefferson because they were nondiscriminatory and voluntary. Preachers of every Protestant denomination appeared. (Catholic priests began officiating in 1826.) As early as January 1806 a female evangelist, Dorothy Ripley, delivered a camp meeting-style exhortation in the House to Jefferson, Vice President Aaron Burr, and a "crowded audience." Throughout his administration Jefferson permitted church services in executive branch buildings. The Gospel was also preached in the Supreme Court chambers."

Remember that when you quote Jefferson's "wall of separation between church and state." He's either the biggest hypocrite who ever lived, or that phrase doesn't mean what you think it does. Based on my reading, I'm inclined toward the latter view.

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel06-2.html

JP| 4.25.10 @ 11:18AM

If one wants to look at how things will go, just look at what happened to South Park. SP, a show which considers itself "edgy", has gone the way of other comdedy shows. SP had no problem blaspheming The Holy Mother, totally backed down to Islamists. They depicted Muhammed as a dog (which is far better than thier depiction of Christians, Christ, or St Mary). Some radical jihaddist made death threats to SP producers and writers over this one episode, and SP pulled it.

One wonders where this will all end up. Just look at Canada and the UK.

Oldefarte| 4.25.10 @ 11:44AM

I cannot agree with Ken's statement more, as this political correctness and infiltration of, not only our military but our federal government's administration as well, has put this country in dire/deadly circumstances and must be reversed. This administration has twarted the investigation of the US Justice Department's negation of a slam-dunk legal case against the New Black Panthers for racial preference reasons; and likewise its review of the former Inspector General Gerald Walpin firing for political purposes. It's simply the CHICAGO WAY of political corruption. These, on top of the WEALTH REDISTRIBUTING fiscal policies of the enacted [non] stimulus bill, the WELFARE oriented healthcare bill,etc; are [or should be] slap-in-the-face recognition to American taxpayers/voters that they should RUN, not walk, to the voting polls/booths in November!!!!

Northern Rebel| 4.25.10 @ 12:37PM

Whether it's a Christian war or not, The Islamist fascists need to killed. Enough of these subhuman savages, who pray to their God of Death, need to exterminated, until they are no longer a threat to civilized human beings.

These are the facts, whether anyone has the courage to say it, or not.

Let the killing begin!

Markzip| 4.25.10 @ 1:53PM

Nina Totenburg their is a unintelligent socialist,pagan,humanist,progressive.
She doesn't deserve to be a voice for the Media.
Nina why don't you go to talk to the Afgans and just reason with your titles and influence.
They will torture,rape and behead you before you can get your microphone to your mouth.
Your are stupid!

todd sheen| 4.26.10 @ 2:46AM

nice post, very helpful and informational, so glad i have read it.

Todd

Sadie| 4.26.10 @ 9:21PM

rrebell

Thank you for your ACCURATE posts. I couldn't bring myself to dignify purple guy with a response.

Well..maybe one little little indulgence just for the hell of it...
ATTENTION: PURPLE PUTZ and your comment below:
"By continuing Israeli settlement of disputed territory makes negotiations much harder to proceed with"
NEWS ALERT:
Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.
It is not disputed territory.

Jackgn| 4.27.10 @ 1:42PM

I was in the Air Force during the 1960's. There were no muslim chaplains and if there were any muslim airmen, no one knew about them. Oh, how I pine for good old days. islam is a gutter religion!!

Sadie| 4.28.10 @ 9:58PM

The same could be said of the newspapers and news anchors when they stopped reporting and colored the news with personal opinion.

ElvisNixon.com| 4.30.10 @ 2:29AM

I wrote on this precise topic right after obama's embarrasing Ft Hood speech on December 1st
Deadly Double Standards: "First They Came For General Boykin .."
We are experiencing a disturbing and dangerous trend in this nation. Our elites are promoting Muslims and others of questionable loyalty to positions of authority and influence and forcing out any who dare admit to holding traditional values. The most recent and egregious example of this is the case of mass murderer and terrorist Major Nidal Hasan. Our President was very quick to defend this killer and to cry out against any "rush to judgment." Our news media propaganda machine put out story after story linking the act of a man who screamed out "allahu akbar" as he fired on US soldiers to the result of "stress" and a "wounded ego." A man like Hasan was able to rise in the ranks while openly promoting jihad, yet Christians are being systematically passed over and forced into early retirement. Something is unconstitutional, immoral and dangerous about this trend, but you hear nothing about it on CBS, NBC, or CNN.

Lieutenant General William G. Boykin was the United States Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence. He has played a role in almost every recent major American military operation, serving in Grenada, Somalia, and Iraq. General Boykin was driven from office when the liberal LA Times article revealed Boykin giving a speech about hunting down Osman Atto in Mogadishu: "He went on CNN and he laughed at us, and he said, 'They'll never get me because Allah will protect me. Allah will protect me.' Well, you know what? I knew that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol." Boykin's remarks stirred much anger in the Muslim world, and Islamic organizations within the US were highly critical of the comments and called for his resignation, such as those from the Council on American-Islamic Relations. Newsweek carried articles calling for his resignation, while Democrats like John Kerry were quick to denounce the remarks. Leftist Rep. John Conyers and 26 supporters put forward H. RES. 419 "Condemning religiously intolerant remarks and calling on the President to clearly censure and reassign Lieutenant General Boykin." General Boykin has been the victim of Stalinist history erasure. He has become a "non-person" according to the dictates of the Hollywood Liberal establishment. Ever seen the film "Blackhawk Down"? General Boykin was the Delta Force commander of that mission. He was mysteriously omitted from the film. Nidal Hasan can show a power point presentation about beheading "infidels" and pouring hot oil down their throats but General Boykin, a genuine hero suffered calumny at the hands of Democrats. See a pattern here? T he argument could, implausibly, be made that this was an international matter and that domestically there is no second class citizenship for Christians. Consider the career of Los Angeles Police Department Assistant Chief Bob Vernon was next in line to take over after Chief Daryl Gates, but Vernon was forced to retire after 37 years on the force. Why was he not allowed to ascend to the role of chief?

Was he unqualified? The son of a 20-year LAPD veteran officer, Vernon rose through the ranks from rookie street cop, to second in command. He graduated from the University of Southern California's Managerial Policy Institute and earned an MBA from Pepperdine University.

The fact of the matter is that Bob Vernon is one of the early victims of "political correctness." He had to be eliminated because of his religion. Had he been a homosexual or a Muslim, he would have become chief, but Bob Vernon is neither. He is a Christian, and his Christianity was used by the Left as a tool to bar him from the position that he so richly deserved.

Compare his situation with the mass murderer Nidal Hasan. Major Hasan did a power point presentation at a medical conference detailing his goal of "jihad" and how to behead "infidels." After murdering 14 Americans and wounding over forty, US Army Chief Staff General Casey declared that a greater loss would be to eliminate people who fit Major Hasan's profile. "Diversity is strength," burbled the General. This is a nonsense phrase that is no longer just stupid, it is dangerous.

There is a double standard employed by the elites of our society. When it comes to career promotion a glass ceiling has been imposed on Christians and conservatives in general. To admit that you believe homosexuality is a sin, oppose abortion and assisted suicide ("end of life counseling" in Obamaspeak) is to end your opportunity for advancement. Not only will you not advance but you stand a fantastic chance of being subjected to a firestorm of unbelievable mockery and criticism. Look at Sarah Palin, look at Carrie Prejean. Had they not spoken out as conservatives, does anybody honestly believe that the filthy "Perez Hilton" character assassination would have been tolerated? If the roles had been reversed and she had used abusive language toward him or pointed out that he was obese, would that have been applauded in the pages of the NY Times and the LA Times?

What happened to Bob Vernon was the opening salvo. The response by many Christians mirrored that of the Germans living in the Wiemar Republic as characterized by Martin Neimoller"s "First they came for the Jews ..." First they canned Bob Vernon because he was a born again Christian and was caricatured as an "extremist," but I was not in line to be chief of police, so I did nothing. Now you cannot be a beauty contestant and dare to disagree unless you want to be smeared with the most vile language. Now you cannot run as a conservative Republican woman without being subject to sexist stereotypes and objectification on the cover of Newseek magazine. You will be hung in effigy in West Hollywood to the amusement of local news affiliates. Your daughter will be slandered and castigated by late night talk show host David Letterman. The feminists will simply roll their eyes and nod. You oppose their agenda, then you deserve it, they will think, sometimes out loud.

It is this hate and intolerance on a cultural level and the political agenda of the secular Left that have prompted communities of faith to create the Manhattan Declaration as a manifesto of defiance.

On March 3, 1991 a suspected drunk driver was pursued by California Highway Patrol and LAPD. That driver was Rodney King. The media broadcast of his beating by officers eventually resulted in explosive violence that left 58 people dead. Robert Vernon gives the inside story in his book L.A Justice: Lessons From The Firestorm. Now that time has passed, one can sit down and read the book away from the emotionalism and hysteria whipped up by the media, and you can see how prophetic Assistant Chief of Police Vernon's words were.

We see the fruits of the Liberal victory in the corrupt and inept regime of Mayor Antonio Villaraigoso. We see the fruits in the "sanctuary city" movement that allows violent gang members to terrorize the community. We see the poisonous fruit on the national level with cowardice that allowed terrorist Nidal Hasan to remain in his job at Fort Hood.

Read Robert Vernon's book and see for yourself. General Boykin is a professor at Hampden-Sydney College, Virginia, and author of "Never Surrender: A Soldier's Journey to the Crossroads of Faith and Freedom." Read what these men have to say and then compare it to the statements of people like Nidal Hasan, Van Jones, Kevin Jennings and Michele Obama. Ask yourself which views are truly mainstream and which are extremist. Consider how the dangerous double standards of the Left that have resulted in unnecessary evil like that perpetrated at Ft Hood.

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