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Drudge ette obama| 4.19.10 @ 6:18AM

Not to be outdone, Clinton seeps to the top of the pool when Gore's done. We can expect Carter soon. Everyone put on their tin foil hats.

Every generation has its population of political kooks. Some get elected. Don't they every want to fade into the background? Why can't Clinton and his long strange fingers just go away?

Jack Sheet| 4.19.10 @ 11:15AM

Yes we make them go away by VOTING them out of power. I know you do not suggest any other way, correct, Tom?

Publius| 4.19.10 @ 12:53PM

What, you opposed to violence or something? If it works for liberal socialists, we should at least try their policies. Isn't that what they always say? Just try it our way and see?

Don't let something like liberal bloodletting get in the way of watering the tree of liberty, sir. I mean, where would we be if we didn't actively and ruthlessly press our case for independence with a war against our English fathers? And now you are saying this republic isn't worth the blood we are shedding on foreign soils today for despots and systems of government we oppose here at home?

1FreeMan| 4.19.10 @ 1:24PM

Just like there are tea party crashers trying to give a bunch of honest hard working Americans a bad name they are also crashing this site trying to make us look like a bunch of kooks threatening violence.
TOM is not with us.
GO AWAY TROLL. We do not threaten elected officials with violence here. That is a liberal thing.

stephen c| 4.19.10 @ 3:42PM

well said FreeMan ....
where was Clinton and why did he not speak out against all the Bush Murder Fantasies that were so prominent during his presidency?

Sev Keil| 4.20.10 @ 3:19AM

And don't forget he caused Timmy Mcveigh b/c he stormed Waca. He is to blame. What a dirtbag

Publius| 4.21.10 @ 1:29PM

Those don't count; repression is a liberal policy and you are being unrealistic in your critique. The Bush Murder Fantasies were both art and politics and that means (in the liberal world) they are acceptable because the target is someone other than a liberal. If you can't make sense of that, then you aren't going to ever be convertible into a liberal. They'll have to euthanize you when it is your turn.

Laura Stilson| 4.29.10 @ 10:25PM

I will re-iterate that we just found this by googling my son's name-Tom Stilson did not post the above post-some sicko is posting under my son's name.
What kind of sicko would do that?
Seems to me that is slander-so whoever posted that BS is a TROLL but it is someone trying to muddy my kid's name.

Dewd| 5.13.11 @ 10:24AM

Hey laura? you out of mind? i think you need your nicebigbooty to be spannked..lol

NvyBrat| 4.19.10 @ 11:19AM

I'm no fan of Bubba by a long shot, but this is NOT the type of tripe we need to be saying. I'm still relying on the ballot box, not the ammo box. One wonders if you're not one of those "infiltrators" we've heard so much about.

Publius| 4.19.10 @ 12:58PM

Were the Founding Fathers "infiltrators" because they were willing to fight for the very freedom you enjoy today? Were the people who died in the Waco attack entitled to due process, liberty and freedom from government interference in their lives?

Violence is never the preferred answer, but when our rights, our freedoms and our liberties are being taken from us by a government that refuses to abide by the republican principles the country was founded upon and ignore the constitution that gives us all our rights and privileges, are we not now no better off than we were when our English cousins "oppressed" us?

Which part of freedom, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is worth fighting for in your book? People who will not fight for their own freedom are entitled to have it and saying people are infiltrators because they advocate ending tyranny isn't helpful either. We should avoid violence at every turn as we have another way of getting to where we seek to go, but when the government actively conspires to sustain its power and its privileges at our sole expense and risk, what say you then?

RAMIII| 4.19.10 @ 1:25PM

What are you saying?

Our Founding Fathers didn't have a vote in regard to their political plight and their freedoms were being taken by force.

What freedoms have been forced from you, that you cannot try to correct at the ballot box as NvyBrat pointed out so succinctly.

When you cite the Founding Fathers, you are not comparing apples to apples. What would you have? Should the good police arrest someone before they commit a crime, because all the signs point to a potential crime being committed? Should we resort to violent means because all the signs point to our losing freedoms by force? What is your rationale for your opinions?

Publius| 4.21.10 @ 1:36PM

You are incorrect and not a student of history. Perhaps you should look up what happened in Parliament on August 23rd, 1775 and then come back and give me your lecture on what really happened. Like many people, you suffer from your own fantasies and that is okay, but I will not let you have your own facts.

Excuse me on the freedoms issue; when the government dictates what I can put in my body, what I can do with my money, what financial products I can purchase and what things I can read or say, my freedoms are being taken away. The fact that you won't fight for these freedoms is your own short-coming, not mine.

My rationale is simple; the people we are facing (liberal-progressives) will stop at nothing to achieve the results they are seeking. They have thrown the Constitution to the side and that makes it illegal to support them and makes them no different than a foreign tyrant coming to our land. You can be as nice about it as you like, but if you think they are going to walk away from absolute power without a fight, then I guess you would also believe that Hitler was only kidding about the Jewish thing and that Stalin didn't really mean to kill 23 million Russians. You go on believing it and the rest of us will do the actually part of standing up and stopping it; as it always has been. Just don't get your lily white hands dirty standing in our way, sir.

NavyBrat| 4.19.10 @ 1:35PM

Spare me your sophomoric attempt to "revise" the true nature of our Founders & our present situation in the here & now. If you want to engage and support violence, that's all you. And BTW, if you DO, & you kill anyone, I want to be the first to volunteer to push the plunger on you, Bill Ayers Jr.

Publius| 4.21.10 @ 1:40PM

Begging your pardon but you have no grasp of the facts either, sir. Like the other poster, perhaps you look up the Rebellion and Sedition Act passed on August 23rd, 1775 and then come back and give me your lecture. If you want to debate violence as a policy, I will give you no debate; violence serves no purpose. But for you to deny that the modern liberal-progressive movement will NOT readily resort to violence to sustain their power and have us willfully ignore our own obligation to resist this with our very last drop of blood is not the American way in my opinion. I too served in our Navy and while I would not push the plunger on you, I will defend your right to be the despicable elitist you obviously are; just stand out of the way and let the real patriots do the work when the time comes. I have a feeling that's a position you are used to assuming in any event so it probably would have passed without saying.

Squawker| 4.19.10 @ 2:31PM

When our right to vote is taken away, then bring out the guns. Until then - vote.

Don't Be Fooled Again| 4.20.10 @ 3:39AM

the problem is not with voting... it's with who is counting the votes. when the democrats control the count, your right to vote is effectively gone, even though you may have successfully completed a trip to the local polling place.

minnesota. maryland. oregon. louisiana. all of these states have had elections stolen by those counting the votes in recent years.

Publius| 4.21.10 @ 1:41PM

A man after my own heart. but what say you when the vote no longer counts and the republic becomes a social democracy to the liking of so many of the liberal-progressive movement?

John McC__| 4.19.10 @ 3:29PM

@Publius
"... ignore the constitution that gives us all our rights and privileges..."
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Our 'rights' are inalienable - they come from God, not the Constitution. The Constitution protects the people from those who would usurp them - even with the best of intentions. Get it right!

Publius| 4.21.10 @ 1:50PM

We believe they come from God, sir. We believe it. We cannot prove this beyond a reasonable doubt to all who reside here in our country so we must assume those rights we ourselves have deigned to agree upon as being without precedence - the rights set forth in the Constitution.

I appreciate your comment and understand your passion, but you are mixing up things here. The Constitution doesn't protect anyone from anything. We have to enforce it and we have to make them be accountable to us. What is happening today is outside our constitutional law experience and yet I see no government effort to slow down these usurpers, much less stop them. I'm not saying anything here radical - like we should go bomb the Pentagon or blow away the President. I'm saying these people are on the cusp of creating what they believe is the ideal socialist utopia and we are in their way. History has shown us that whenever a group of people get in the way of socialist countries, they end up dead. Over 100 million people paid the price in the last century for being in the way of socialism and to discount this fact is to be irresponsible.

Mark MacInnis| 4.19.10 @ 12:33PM

Friend...either you are a lefty, posting on the site to give it the appearance of a gathering of violent reactionaries, or you are unfamiliar that this is a site of patriots who temper our extreme displeasure with the current situation and plan to use the power of the ballot and the pulpit to set things to right. Either way, such posting is not welcome here. Since you are using a name one would assume is your own, one would assume you do not fear prosecution for what may be currently categorized as a hate crime. If you don't fear prosecution, that makes me more inclined to think you are a lefty trying to bait us and make us look bad. Either way, if you don't have anything more intellectually relevant than that to add, please just read along. If you are a lefty, perhaps we can find someone to read the big words for you....

Publius| 4.19.10 @ 1:02PM

Funny how hate crimes are always a subjective matter pertaining to free speech. You don't like what the fellow says, so it must be hate speech. Our Founding Fathers fought a VIOLENT revolution so he could have his say. Today we hope we do not have to resort to violence in order to reach a reasonable accommodation with our own government, but is that not what the Jews, the gypsies and other ethnic minorities hoped under Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot? At what point would you be alarmed? Which rights and liberties are worth fighting for and which will you just readily give away that are not yours to give? Which freedoms aren't important?

It's easy to put on the hood, point the finger and make the judgment - that's what the current government is doing. What you are doing is no better or no worse. You decide how we will all respond and you decide who is overwrought and who is worthy of listening to and who has the wisdom worth considering. You are quite the little censor and that makes your position no less hypocritical than those of the people in governance today, does it not?

Thomas Paine| 4.19.10 @ 1:28PM

Publius,

Down boy! Sit!

Now go reread your history. Colonial protests were civil and peaceful for the most part, even after British aggressive actions like the Boston Massacre. They weren't assassinating Brits.

The violence came when the Colonies severed ties to England and the British Army came calling. They occupied New York and held the advantage at first, but the tide turned against them and they were, violently, by force, denied their "right" to maintain the Colonies within their taxing, spending Empire.

So ... promote the vote! Canvass. Blog. Dig a bit deeper, do everything you can to expose voter fraud on election day -- I recommend filming at suspect polling places and doing a head count vs. the precinct's reported results.

And yes ... if some bizarre circumstance occurs and those currently in power try to defy defeat at the polls by sending in troops ... then fight!

But they won't, or can't, because our troops would not obey such orders. So please, calm down and focus on massive, CIVIL, victory this fall.

Or, if you're a plant, keep up the violent rhetoric.

Publius| 4.21.10 @ 1:43PM

I guess that depends on what side you were on; violence is violence. I see your point though and I readily concede my own passions exceed my own good common sense at times. I would hope we can continue to assemble in civil protests and that our votes are recorded.

But...

Robert| 4.21.10 @ 3:03AM

Such so-called "freedoms" as freedom to commit sodomy, freedom to commit bestiality, freedom to marry inanimate objects, freedom from being offended, freedom to molest children, and the like are non-essential. Essential liberty covers things like upholding individual rights to life, liberty, and property, the freedom to express your political opinions (and thereby learn and discover more of the truth) without fear of retaliation by the government, freedom of conscience, freedom from arbitrary government action, and the like. Essential liberties like those are worth fighting for, and if necessary, watering the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants.

Tom in Michigan| 4.19.10 @ 1:29PM

Leftist disinformation is the Alinskyite tactic used in Tom's comment.

drudge ette obama| 4.20.10 @ 5:19AM

I hope that you are talking about an appendage; otherwise, you don't have any credence with me.

Publius| 4.21.10 @ 1:52PM

That's over the top. If they attack us that's one thing, but busting a cap on this guy because he's a douchebag is a non-starter if you ask me.

Laura Stilson| 4.29.10 @ 10:12PM

This is not Tom Stilson posting this above post. We just found this posting by googling my son's name.
Whoever is pretending to be my son-what you are doing is slanderous and this is not okay.
The DOJ just prosecuted a case whereas someone posted under someone else's name.
So let it be known that someone is pretending to be be my son-this is just sick tactics. Tom Stilson did not write the above posting. Really this is sick that someone would post under my son's name.

Allen Marsh | 4.29.10 @ 10:31PM

Who ever posted this in the name of "Tom Stilson" is in deep doo-doo. http://newsone.com/nation/asso.....probation/

We will be contacting attorney general Eric Holder to inform him of this situation and we will not stop until your low-life, pig-dog body is rotting in jail for pretending to be someone you aren't - "Turn around is fair play".

Alan Brooks| 4.19.10 @ 6:53PM

Antle, this is just another hack-piece.
You can do better than that.

CRAIG SATCHELL| 4.19.10 @ 8:11PM

What happened at Oklahoma City was an act of demented vengence and retalliation for an event the centlized national media has chosen not to remember as which it has been n conspicuously silent . On April 19, 1993 President Clinton and Janet Reino should be credited with the firing of 300 canisters of respitory retardent CX gas into the wooden Branch Dividian Compound at waco. The electricity had been turned off by Reino's ATF and FBI in a seige that culminated in the firing of this combustible gas into the closed compound. As reported by the Christian Science Monitor on April 19, 1993 the calcuated acts of our government and forseeable consequences in the deaths of many en, women, and children enragede the unstable Timothy Mc

Ret. Marine| 4.19.10 @ 6:57AM

The recent announcement from this administration that the word "islamist" or islamic terrorist" is not by mistake. What hilbully bill klinton is saying is right up the same alley. This reminder and that of the mis-use of the term "islamic terrorist" or lack thereof, are meant in the same vein. This is to say that the current admin. and hilbully-bill are making no distinction of who is an enemy to their agenda. You see it works both ways, if they ( the admin.) and their operators can not tell the difference of "who" the enemy is, or are deliberately trying to compare the two together, then it must be remarked that We the People are to be lumped into the same category. We are their terrorist. Not by name but by birthrite. American's by choice and demeanor. What hilbully bill Klinton and this current admin is saying is so broad and vage that We the People, as American Patriots, are no different than the sworn enemies of freedom and choice, islamic terrorist. Hilbully bill klinton is another terrorist by a different name, a socialist demonrat who is trying to get the attention of anyone who would think his words matter, Waco, Ruby ridge, mr.reno, holder anyone?
The real buggymen are the ones who are desperately trying to connect the two, anti-American vrs. American exceptionalism. We have a term that we use to discribe these types and that word is TRAITORS to the Republic.

Brian Mc| 4.19.10 @ 7:04AM

There is no stopping this mindless march towards a socialist utopia short of civil war. The liberals are pounding away at the racist, hatred mantra in order to demonize our efforts to defend the Constitution until all the ignorants believe it to be true, without a shred of evidence to prove it to be the case. Tea Partiers beware, they are gunning for you, and by hook or crook, they are going to take you down.

DaveS| 4.19.10 @ 11:03PM

There are other ways to get your point across. When somebody tells me they voted for Obama, I let them know I think that was dumb, I let them know that I think their irresponsible vote has cost me thousands of dollars in lost revenue and extra taxes and fees to run my business.
There are a few Kool-Aid drinkers who think I am a troglodyte for my views, but I do think most actually start thinking about cause and effect of having the vote. Tell the Obama voters you think they screwed up. Make them a little uncomfortable (I am not saying threaten them) by being upfront how you feel. We can probably turn a lot of them from mindless democrat supporters to voters who realize it is a responsibility to be taken seriously.

Tim*| 4.19.10 @ 7:11AM

Uh Oh !
Bubba ,the southern redneck racist " disses " the black man .
“A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.”

Oh Lordy , I d o declare , " Bubba must be a Southern Redneck Peckerwood ".

Ha, Ha, Ha , Ha !

Brian Mc| 4.19.10 @ 7:30AM

Hey, northface...just wondering. We sell Northface articles as well as Zebco Reels. Do you think it would be wise if I started calling myself, "Zebco Reels"?

martin j smith| 4.19.10 @ 7:31AM

OK we know that Billy Boy is behaving exactly the way he did ewhen he was president impuneing to any oppisition the responsibility for whatever negative stuff he could think of. Now it is time stop being surprised or shocked--but to tell Billy Boy and the rest of the Democrat Left to GO STUFF IT !!!!

And that is the appatizer. For the main course a blast of behaviors by the LEFT such as during the Bush years and now under BHO their own threats and other statements that encourage violence.
And for desert: To the American people: Do you want ONE PARTY DICTATORIAL RULE or A Democratic Republic with representative government? Your vote in November will decide the outcome of the course of our nation.

Kris Lepine| 4.19.10 @ 8:01AM

Nothing I like better than being lectured by a "morally bankrupt" individual who want us to believe they have all the answers.

President Clinton, you are a joke. You did great harm to this country when you chose to "bonk" a twenty year old woman in the White House.

I pay my taxes, I work hard, I give to my church, I live a life to please God. Don't call me a terrorist if I find my government's policy's vile and evil.

Louis Jenkins| 4.19.10 @ 9:19AM

Precisely Mr. Lepine, I too have paid taxes, etc. I am truly tired of being called names to no end. And it is okay. In fact, there will soon be more taxes to pay even though the Pretender n Chief pointed out that we're paying less taxes (51% of us) than ever before. Of course the other 49% aren't paying any. Hmmm.... But that will change next year.

Ray| 4.19.10 @ 12:27PM

"we're paying less taxes (51% of us) than ever before"

I've been amazed at how many people have repeated that lie, for it IS a lie! How many people paid federal taxes before the federal government impose a income tax on all of us? The answer is, very, very few. For the first 150 years, ordinary citizen paid absolutely no taxes to the federal government. The vast majority of taxes were collect from business. It was only because of FDR and the MASSIVE expansion of government that his administration created that income taxes were imposed upon us all.

If Obama really wants to make the claim we're pay less taxes than ever before, he needs to abolish the income tax altogether. But we all know that's not likely to happen.

Steve J.| 4.19.10 @ 8:13PM

It was only because of FDR and the MASSIVE expansion of government that his administration created that income taxes were imposed upon us all.
FAIL

TomP| 4.19.10 @ 8:15AM

Listening to Clinton I am (paranoid?) more and more convinced that it is the intent of Obama and the democrats to force an event which would permit the declaratyion of a "National Emergency" and forgo the November election. It concerns me and frightens me, for I took an oath to defend the constitution "against all enemies". I thought I had done my bit in the 70's but maybe will have to again.

WMP| 4.19.10 @ 10:13AM

You're not paranoid.

The left is following the Weather Underground playbook to a T, and they have been for years.

"Find an incident, a spark to ignite the flame, ratchet it up to a raging inferno."

When the left is in power they use it as a way to gain more power. When they are out of power they claim the govt. is becoming a dictatorship.

You've got the exact same pattern as far back as the Rodney King beating in 1991 that resulted in the LA riots in 92 that launched Bill Clinton into the Whitehouse. Four different presidents, and you have the exact same thing.

Bush 41(R)-R King beating /race riots-Bush was becoming a dictator
Clinton(D)-OKC bombing -right wing extremist attempting to overthrow the govt.
Bush43(R)-9/11- First Bush stole the election then he allowed 9/11 to take place Bush was becoming a dictator
Obama(D)-(?)Right wing extremist attempting to overthrow the govt.
This is just a partial list, but you can clearly see the pattern.

Ark Ashamed of Bill| 4.19.10 @ 8:23AM

Just whom does Slick think he’s fooling? The American Left has revered terror since the days of John Brown, whom Bill Ayers saw as a role model (see Ronald Radosh’s “Commies”). Obama is thick as thieves with Ayers, who is not only unrepentant for his terrorism but also repents not having done enough. Ayers and the Clintons were part of the same New Left movement and doubtless shared hateful anti-American rhetoric.

FTM| 4.19.10 @ 8:33AM

Here we go again, no substantial arguement from the political left so out comes the smears and innuendo. Right out of the Saul Alinsky, "Rules for Radicals" playbook (which I have read by the bye).

Political left out of power, a movie made depicting the assasination of a sitting president is "Free Speech." Political left in power dissent is a racist, sexist, mean-spirited, potentially violent, nut-case fringe, low-brow conspiracy that has to be extunguished cost be damned. Mere citizens objecting to the elites living their lives for them can't be tolerated.

You guys ought to review/rethink your playbook, you're starting to get predictable.

Ken (Old Texican)| 4.19.10 @ 8:38AM

James Antle,
Please forgive me, but I worked all weekend on this.
I hope you will copy/paste it and e-mail it to everyone you love.

The United States of America.
A nation based upon the “rule of Law …rather than men”.
Our law is of course based upon the Ten Commandments, and distilled and fulfilled by Jesus Christ.
(“Love your neighbor as yourself”, and “Remember me as often as you break bread.”
Our “Law of the Land” is our constitution……written to fulfill our “Declaration of Independence”. It is the contract… our compact… of a free people with our government.

Inadvertently, we Americans have elected a President, and a Congress who are breaking the “Law of The Land”, with premeditation, and malice aforethought. Their method, and strategy is as old as time … quite simply… pitting brother against brother, and father against son; that they might rule over us all as they see fit, generation after generation.

Some of us labor fruitfully in our jobs and families, and others literally writhe in the futility of their idleness or despair. Our current “governors” have allowed and even encouraged the idle ones and despairing ones, only in order to create a constituency that will assure dependency upon their “governors and betters”.

Some of those “betters” are not in government offices at all. They are the “Limousine-Liberals” we hear and read about. They are the ones who so enjoy dropping crumbs off their tables to their “unders”. They are the ones who get such a “tingly leg” of self-satisfaction from every crumb they deign to sweep from their tables.

They invest vast sums toward the elections of politicians who will join their “gangs”, merely in order to enhance their self–indulgent “Am I not a kind and giving…..better”.

Possibly the most underhanded “trick” those would-be “betters” have pulled is allowing the so-called mainstream media to think they are anything but “court-jesters” to amuse the “betters”, and mislead enough of we productive folk.
Well.
With the “stacked deck” we now find ourselves being dealt from, we must accomplish two jobs.

First, we must accept the URGENCY of finding a way to work together…to get a new deck….and right the hell now. That translates into electing the men and women to Congress this fall that will stand with us productive folk, to stop the theft of our freedom before we run out of “table stakes”. Obviously that also implies that we keep their feet to the fire thereafter.

Second, we must re-create a genuine sense of hope… for those less fortunate than ourselves. Many of our fellow Americans in a state of despair, are in that state from no fault of their own. We need their votes, and their hard and meaningful work to help us re-build our country.
Every single one of us has a part to play here! Some random examples:

*You skilled craftsmen…find and teach/train someone who is now on welfare, (even if you can’t pay them just yet).

*You business men and women…find and train some folks on some sort of unpaid or part-time “intern” basis if that is all you can afford.

*You politicians…for once and all…do whatever is necessary to get our manufacturing base back home, and get our domestic natural-resource development cranked up!

*You retired folks…have a huge store of knowledge and “hands-on” know-how that you will get a kick out of passing along…..or…..you might figure out how to arrange a child- care/baby-sitting service that allows a young mother to seek meaningful employment.

*Parents…kick your sons out of the basement, and your daughters out of the mall! Heck, if nothing else, get them in touch with me…or someone… so we can help them find some meaningful goals and life-tasks.
Finally, please add your own “bestest” thoughts and commitments here, and copy/paste and e-mail them along with this to all your friends and associates.
I am doing so TODAY!
Thank you for considering these thoughts very carefully.
Best regards

Steve J.| 4.19.10 @ 8:00PM

Our law is of course based upon the Ten Commandments, and distilled and fulfilled by Jesus Christ.

FAIL

Margie| 4.20.10 @ 7:30PM

No fail. Truth. Jesus Christ came to fulfill the Law.

"For Christ is the end of the law, that every one who has faith may be justified." Rms. 10:4.

Anthony| 4.19.10 @ 9:05AM

How very cheeky, especially coming from Clinton and Rangle, both of whom, should be wearing orange prison jump suits, but alas, they have a "get out of jail free" card, it's called membership in the Democrat Party.
I remember well when that white trash with a Yale Law degree, Bill Clinton, attempted to paint McVeigh onto Rush. When Limbaugh struck back, Clinton and his goons back slided and claimed they were talking about "short wave" radio. Yeah, right.
As for Rangle, this career criminal and habitual tax cheat, I say: "Hey Charlie, why should we not stand for "cutting taxes", hell, since you don't pay them, why should we??
Yes folks, this is your Democrat Party. Corrupt to the core.

Steve J.| 4.19.10 @ 8:08PM

When Limbaugh struck back, Clinton and his goons back slided and claimed they were talking about "short wave" radio.

This is also a lie

Anthony| 4.19.10 @ 8:34PM

Really, what part of this is a lie, Steve J? What I said was almost a direct quote from a Clinton hack spokesman, whose name I have since forgotten, thankfully.

can't tell ya my name| 4.19.10 @ 9:18AM

I am 100% a Clintonite. I am a personal friend of President Clinton and his entire family.

That said, I am very disappointed in the role that pressure from the Obama crowd has put President Clinton in the position where he has to join in this disgraceful continuation of the false charges of "racism" that were first thrown against good Democrats like him, his wife, Bob Kerrey, Andrew Cuomo and most ridiculously - John Lewis himself - when they had the audacity to oppose Obamas drive to the White House in 2008.

This words from the column were exactly correct - racializing disputes that are not inherently racial in nature and inflating the profile of real hate groups is not just wrong -- it is profoundly irresponsible."

I despise Obama and the Chicago crowd for how they have damaged race relations in a way I never ever would have expected from ANY Democrat - let alone the first "post racial" President.

We live in a terrible time and I can only hope that the GOP can find some moderate candidate that people like me can tolerate - and hopefully even like - so we can vote together and remove these dangerous Chicago thugs from 1600.

(Believe me there are many Dems who feel as I do - but we cant raise our heard up in fear of drawing the hate of the chitown crooks (Rezko's buddies) and their online swarming banshees.)

Conan the Grammarian| 4.19.10 @ 9:32AM

So, Can't-tell-ya, you must be one of those "good" socialists. Spare me the nonsense. You fear the Chitown crowd, but what about the Arkansan mafia? And you hope that the GOP can find a moderate candidate tolerable to you? I don't care what you want left-wingers want.

wake up and smell the coffee| 4.19.10 @ 9:47AM

Conan the Fool -

If you had any brains - which you obviously dont - youd understand that i am not what we now call a "Liberal". Thats the point angry man. I am a pro worker, jobs, jobs, jobs, Buy American, economic nationalist and I am against whatever Party is the lapdog of Wall street and the banks. Most of the time that is the GOP, now its Obama's new version of the Dems..

I know tons of GOP pols. (John Bolton is one of my fave people alive and Bey Buchanan always said I should have headed up "Dems for Pat")
Idiots like you think that because I dare to disagree with you - you have the need and right to hate me - look fool - I sure as hell dont think your a jerk because of your politics = its your intolerance I despise. You are no different than what you Hate. You are just a mirror of the Obama crowd. I know about 10,000 times more about electoral politics (GOTV etc) than you guy and though the Dems could lose the House this year all on their own - there is no way Obama loses in 2012 unless there is another candidate THAT PEOPLE LIKE ME will vote for. None. Zero. Zip.

Forget Ron Paul, Sarah (though I like her and a good dem pal of mine set up her pac you know) Pence etc....

Wake Up And Smell The Tea| 4.19.10 @ 9:58AM

Now , James Carville , you stop annoying the readers . You Old Serpent Head .
signed , Mary

Conan the Grammarian| 4.19.10 @ 10:16AM

Wake-up-and,
I addressed certain issues that Can't-tell-ya brought up. But you went off on a tangent. Call me brainless and a fool for my disdain for Clintonistas who weep and gnash their teeth because of the bad guys from Chicago, but I smell the whiff of hypocriscy there. As for you, if you should be a Democrat as you claim, then I could only conclude from all that has been done by the elected Democrat representatives that you and they are totalitarians of a Marxist/socialist bent. I love liberty within the law, I respect property rights, and I want limited government. I want a candidate who holds to these values. I don't care what you want, unless they are similar to my values. That is why there is a TEA party and conservative Republicans. We don't care what you want. We don't wring our hands in fear wondering how we can please the left and the MSM.

Ray| 4.19.10 @ 12:34PM

It is extremely ironic that you're complaining about the rhetoric of Bill Clinton and state how this type of demeaning rhetoric is harming even the Democrats and needs to stop, only to partake in demeaning rhetoric yourself by calling someone an idiot and a fool.

Anthony| 4.19.10 @ 10:30AM

Dear Can't tell ya, I feel your pain; however, I agree with the other posters here, leave this totally corrupt party, many of us did. Your fears may very well be justified, after all, theses Ds play hard ball and take no prisoners. However, you seem to be rational and honest in your observations, yet your silence is helping to perpetuate this corrupt regime. Time to take a stand!! ( as the joker V.P. said)
Your personal pal, Clinton, called the pre Tea Party folks "unwashed masses", the NY Times' recent poll said we are mostly white, financially well off, and WELL EDUCATED. Talking out of both sides of the mouth is a Democrat trademark.
So, can't tell ya, how does all our tax payer paid for furniture that your friends the Clintons took from the White House look in their D.C./ NY digs, or can't you tell us? Finally, next time you see your "friend" Bill, please advise him of the proper use of a good cigar, that little sexual stunt of his really ticked me off. Take care, you hang with friends who can't be trusted.

WMP| 4.19.10 @ 10:37AM

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you might recall during BC's impeachment Hillary had a threat she called the "Scorched Earth Policy".
One of the FBI files she threatened to release was my file. The term "Scorched Earth Policy" means to orchestrate race riots.

BTW, are your initials DD?
If they are, do you still have the polaroid pixs of you, Jenifer Flowers, and BC snorting the coke that you showed me? I really liked the one where BC was passed out on the floor with coke all over his face.

Anthony| 4.19.10 @ 11:57AM

Hey WMP, Did the passed out Clinton also have a cigar in his mouth, in addition to the coke?

WMP| 4.19.10 @ 2:16PM

Nope, no cigar.
Just the coke all over his face, and puke all over his shirt.

Anthony| 4.19.10 @ 3:48PM

A class act, all the way.

WMP| 4.19.10 @ 4:32PM

In one picture, Clinton is passed out on the floor flat on his back, spread eagle and covered in puke.There must have been 20 people standing there looking at him.
His ARK state trooper guards are standing over him laughing and pointing at each other as to who is going to pick him up. He looks just like a bum on the street.
Truly amazing what a democrat will vote for.

Anthony| 4.19.10 @ 8:44PM

Ah, but these folks are the best and the brightest of us all, don't ya know. Lucky you,WMP, you are one of the very few who have seen the real Bill Clinton, up close and personal.
Once a pig, always a pig, Yale degree not withstanding.

WMP| 4.20.10 @ 8:00AM

The guy that showed me these pictures had a stack about 3 inches thick. In the pictures you can clearly see other people taking pictures.

There is no way possible the news media didn't have this information in the 92 election, they simply covered it up.

This is what I found most troubling about it.

When you see how Clinton looks when you know for a fact he is stoned out of his mind, then compare it to how he looked while president, you don't have a doubt he was routinely stoned out of his mind.

Paul from SA| 4.19.10 @ 10:51AM

"...Clinton ...has to join in this disgraceful continuation...."

The rest is good, but that part is baloney! Nobody controls Bill Clinton.

Bill is still very good at lying to promote himself, but as soon as he veers away from 'himself,' he flails and fails. This is backfiing, and Obama is probably hating that Bill speaks. I think Hillary hates it too. Everytime Bill speaks out in public to make a political statement against the opposition, it reminds us of the Lewinskys he was getting in the Whitehouse. BTW, where is Monica these days?

Do you know the two most unpopular girl's names? Monica and Hillary.

ds80| 4.19.10 @ 12:17PM

"I am a personal friend of President Clinton and his entire family."

We're supposed to be impressed?

Bill Clinton said something? Oh: he's the one who abused the Office of the Presidency playing out middle-aged fantasies. Credibility? NOT

Tom in Michigan| 4.19.10 @ 6:17PM

Bill Clinton pulled same stunt this long before Obama was President or almost anybody had even heard of Barack Obama. Way back in 2002, in response to Bush Administration suggestions that some the corporate scandals of the early 2000's first got out of hand under his watch (which was indeed true), Mr. Clinton said: "These people ran on responsibility, but as soon as you scratch them they go straight to blame. Now, you know, I didn't blame his [President Bush's] father for Somalia when we had that awful day memorialized in 'Black Hawk Down.' I didn't do that."
As I stated elsewhere, Osama Bin Laden cited Clinton Administration’s actions during this event as a sign of American weakness which led to further attacks on our nation including 9-11. Plus, Clinton’s SECDEF Les Aspin shamefully refused reinforcements to our troops (one of MY friends resigned his commission in the Rangers as a result of this event – a great young man and combat hero, his resignation was a great loss to this country). This disgrace and its results were Mr. Clinton's fault and responsibility as then-Commander in Chief. A real man of character would admit that.

Although I guess I can understand your defense of your friend, please don’t tell us that he’s being “forced” to act this way by the Obamaviks. His behavior is just too typical of him and his ilk for anybody to buy it.

Having stated these rather harsh criticisms, please give my regards to the former President next time you see him. I myself don’t know him personally of course but, until the Obamaviks came around, I never thought I’d look back on the Clinton Administration with anything like nostalgia. But, I NEVER thought I’d see a President and Congress like THIS one. I used to consider Democrats people like everybody else; just misguided. Some, like John Glenn were even admirable but, Obama and this Congress are NOT acting in the best interests of the United States. I disagreed with your friend Mr. Clinton on many, many policies and actions but, I don’t think he was out to destroy the nation.

Typical Whitey| 4.19.10 @ 9:19AM

Clinton did more damage to this country than anyone - until now. Bubba sold our secrets to the Chinese, allowing huge technology transfers in exchange for campaign cash, and morally debased our nation with lying and scandals. And he lectures us? Shame on him and Hillary. Two vultures that have lived off of taxpayers their entire lives.

blarset| 4.19.10 @ 9:54AM

I agree . Why would the bushes ever let him come back to the white house?They are the same as the clintons. The Bushes should have said, " No Slick Wllie"- You been Impeached we are gonna move on from your political failures.THEY WERE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WHO LOVED THEIR GOVERNMENT ,and its officials. SAY not to life long public servants!

you are so confused| 4.19.10 @ 9:57AM

sorry...that chinese 'sell out" stuff was bs spun by the gop and spread by the NY times in the lead - but shown later to be smoke and well...bs.

Typical Whitey| 4.19.10 @ 9:57PM

Confused - great name. Indeed Clinton did allow nuclear secrets to be transferred. As well as rocket staging tecnology from Loral Systems - the CEO of which, Bernard Schwarz, gave Bubba $1mm in the '96 campaign. He was later fined but the damage was done. I could go on. He is a traitor period.

Louis Jenkins| 4.19.10 @ 9:22AM

Can't mention your name:

Then get out of the party that causes you such a loss of personal freedom. I dropped my Democrat affiliation about 15 years ago, so why can't you?

cant mention| 4.19.10 @ 9:54AM

I have left all association with the National Party and now identify only locally. Luckily my Governor is a great guy and probably will be the next dem President - if Hillary decides against a run in 2016.

So though you can never call me a Obama democrat - you can call me a O' Malley Dem.

Its been proven - Irish presidents are the best ( 2 out of 3 isnt bad)...ie Clinton... Reagan (disagreed with him ALL the time - but wow, what a guy!)...

By the way, when I was young, I once worked very closely for the Kennedys...since that shattering experience of getting to actually know them far too personally I am No Kennedy fan. and in case you dont know...Obama is a kennedy.

Steve851| 4.19.10 @ 9:24AM

All politicians engage in political clap trap. The fact remains that he ended a string of 20 years of decent presidents. Haven't had one since and I'm beginning to doubt we ever will again.

Mike| 4.19.10 @ 9:45AM

"Civic virtue can include harsh criticism, protest, even civil disobedience. But not violence or its advocacy. That is the bright line that protects our freedom." Bill Clinton

How many AmSpec readers agree?

martin j smith| 4.19.10 @ 9:56AM

Tom P you are right on the money. That is why it is important to turn this around and accuse Clino, BHO etc of infesting the national debate with THEIR Hatred and
provocations. They are the provocateurs of violence.!!!!!!!nn That6 should be the message !!!!!!!

But do so with a smile at all times.

Chuck| 4.19.10 @ 10:08AM

Since Bill is our first black president lives in all white Chappaqua and has an office in all black Harlem signifying racial harmony I suggest he nominate himself UN Secretary General and announce end of the "era of world government."

SkipBo| 4.19.10 @ 10:14AM

You lose all credibility with the tired old "Gore claims to have invented internet" line. Once you use that, you've proven yourself to be intellectually dishonest and not worth listening to. It's the right hack's version of the left's "Bush was a cokehead." If you want to make a point, make a point, if you want to engage in playground games, then go to some forum somewhere and stop wasting people's time with schoolyard mythology.

Ken (Old Texican)| 4.19.10 @ 10:52AM

OK Skipbo,

Is Gore the guy that invented "An Inconvenient Truth" to frighten people with for a whole ton of money?

Paul from SA| 4.19.10 @ 12:01PM

I don't recall Bush ever bragging about being a cokehead. Oh, that was the liberal media!

Whereas Gore did personally take credit for the internet. Please read his words again. I don't recall the exact words, but he was bragging, as he has done for most of his life, for things he did not do.

SkipBo| 4.19.10 @ 10:18AM

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

hoads| 4.19.10 @ 10:37AM

What is truly despicable about Clinton's rant is that McVeigh was a tool for Muslim terrorists--OK bombing was orchestrated by Muslim terrorists-- and the Clinton administration pulled out all the stops to create the narrative of McVeigh as part of an angry white anti-government militia reacting to Waco. Read up: http://www.jaynadavis.com/

http://intelwire.egoplex.com/t.....l#docindex

Cpm| 4.19.10 @ 10:37AM

Progressives never accept any responsibility for these outrages, they merely project it on conservatives, as if their policies, actions, and rhetoric exist in a vacuum and have absolutely nothing to do with motivating an unstable person to commit some form of civil disturbance.

hillary clinton| 4.19.10 @ 11:12AM

bill clinton is a fat white trash slob liar. i should know, i had to live with him.

Bill Clinton| 4.19.10 @ 11:50AM

Bitch! Get me a samwhich right now or else!

dadling| 4.19.10 @ 11:28AM

Yep, it don't take long to recognize that the same B.S. that Clinton used, is being used again by another Democratic President and his Regime.....it took a lot less time, this time, for people to realize that the Democrats are not good people and are not looking for the good in America...or Americans..!!

Tim*| 4.19.10 @ 11:40AM

Shouldn't Bubba be enrolled in Tiger Woods' sex addiction program at Pine Grove

Bubba ,Stick A Cigar in it !

I forgot ,Ya already did that .

Saml Adams| 4.19.10 @ 12:35PM

Have to look on the bright side, as a conservative, the left has given me a tiny, little glimpse of what it must have been like to be black and in the civil rights movement in the South in the 50s.

Advocate the most reasonable issues--fiscal responsibility, adherence to the Constitution, reasoned approach to proper size and role of govt. --and you get the press equivalent of Connor's dogs loosed upon you. And good ole William "Lester Maddox" Clinton up there telling everyone that everything will degenerate to violence and chaos if we tolerate any criticism the leftist slide of our government.

And for the record, the ballot box is where this battle gets fought. We'll win.

Bill | 4.19.10 @ 12:52PM

I thought dissent was the highest form of patriotism.

I guess it depends on whose ox is being gored.

Saml Adams| 4.19.10 @ 12:56PM

Ah, foolish mortal....it is just fine to rant, rave, break windows, make movies about the assassination of the President, bring whole neighborhoods to a standstill--should have been here in NY for the Republican convention...just need to have the correct politics--get thee to re-education camp.

Bert| 4.19.10 @ 1:12PM

As a newcomer to this site and someone who voted Republican for 40 years until Bush II broke the bank, these posts are very frightening. This is "hate the evil left," not constructive discussion. If you want to win over us independents, you need a different tone.

RAMIII| 4.19.10 @ 1:36PM

Bert,

If Michelangelo had used a broad brush he would not have been called a great painter.

Saml Adams| 4.19.10 @ 1:39PM

Think you have a lot of folks blowing off steam--what really ticks them off is that showing up at a rally, holding a sign and behaving is labeled as racist, intolerant, blah blah blah.

On the positive side, what I'm seeing in politics now is a more fiscally responsible set of Republican candidates stepping up and people who were not "political" until they saw the future horror show that their kids are going to inherit doing the same. It's not the rant and rave crowd, but rather middle class people who want to know how they can win this at the ballot box--and believe me they're coming out like ants from a disturbed nest. This gives me hope.

Tim*| 4.19.10 @ 2:07PM

Maybe , Bush II , created A Compassionate Conservatism Backlash from Fed Up Conservatives .

Not to mention drivin' Us into Obama's Third World Banana Republic and A Worldclass National Debt.

Cpm| 4.19.10 @ 5:42PM

I'm always suspicious of people that have to claim their 'Republican" bona fides up front: that's a pretty good indicator of seminar posters. Bush II "broke the bank", yet the current occupant of the White House makes "Bush II" look like a miser, and his tone, unlike Bush's, is dismissive, arrogant, and condescending. That's not "frightening"? What would it take to win you over? Sorry, but I don't believe you.

carnot| 4.20.10 @ 9:16AM

bert...the goal isn't to win your approval or collaboration. the goal is to defeat incipient fascism. you will have to decide for yourself where the long-run priorities fall.

btw.....for all the hyberbolic language that frustrates you....have you seen any ACTION/VIOLENCE motivated and/or inspired by these fulminations? No...you haven't. this is all part of a PR game being waged with an American public (particularly the younger generations) that mistakenly believe command of a mouse and ample bandwidth provides ready access to authoritative facts and credible analysis - all without any corresponding real world experience.

99.9% of what one reads on these political blogs is ultimately about values conflicts. there is no "factual" approach for rectifying these frictions - especially as the modern purveyors of righteousness have apparently decided to jettison both our historical foundation and many of the "sanctioning" institutions that formally provided structure and some semblance of compromise/maneuvering room for "progress".

the culture wars that everyone began to write about in the 60s are coming to assume a very sharp edge. The Dems/Libs no full well that their current risk is that broad sectors of the polity that they traditionally assumed who remain quiescent in their diurnal burdens of raising families, earning paychecks, enjoying life - finally see the stark reality of the future the current power elites envision. and...for the first time...there is "emergent adaptive behavior" that challenges this vision in numbers that are threatening. it is nascent and can be squashed - the Dems/Libs know this and that is what they are trying to do all the while pressing to consolidate their vision into real policy and resource decisions they believe will be unalterable.

yes...Bert...fights on. You better decide pretty damn quick which of the alternative futures you line up with and not be distracted by random blog posts and occasionally unsavory placards.

Dan| 4.20.10 @ 9:50AM

Bert,

With all due respect, if independents feel at this point in our history that they need to be "won over," they are not paying attention to the facts.

Dave Williams| 4.19.10 @ 1:42PM

Can't Tell You, you sound like a decent and intelligent guy. I am happy that you don't demonize us on the right, and as your political evolution unfolds, please be assured that when you take the big leap and join us, we will welcome you with open arms.

KevinBob| 4.19.10 @ 2:28PM

To demonize the opposition and suppress them is straight out of Saul Alinsky's book "Rules for Radicals." This is the tactic Clinton is using so no one should expect any thing different from the left.

Tom in Michigan| 4.19.10 @ 2:29PM

Timothy McVeigh cited the increasing authoritarianism of government, culminating in the Clinton Administration’s attack on the Waco compound as the main reason behind his so-called “retaliatory strike” on the OKC Federal Building. Although he did not specifically mention it; we should also recall the images of armed law enforcement agents in little Elian Gonzalez’ bedroom as illustrative of the viciousness of the Janet Reno Justice Department under Clinton.

Osama Bin Laden cited American softness after the Clinton Administration’s withdrawal after the “Blackhawk down” incident in Somalia (the 100 U.S. Army Rangers and Delta Force troops ambushed in Mogadishu, Somalia were finally reinforced – by Pakistani troops, not Americans after Clinton’s first Secretary of Defense, Les Aspin refused a request for armored American reinforcements. Clinton later infamously said, “I didn't blame his [President Bush's] father for Somalia when we had that awful day memorialized in 'Black Hawk Down.' I didn't do that”).

The reason Mr. Clinton can't blame the events of "Black Hawk Down" on President Bush's father is because those events were Mr. Clinton's fault and responsibility as then-Commander in Chief.

Nevertheless, might one not reasonalbly conclude therefore, these two worst terrorist attacks in US history where to a great degree the results of the actions of Bill Clinton and his Administration?

This is the same dissembling mendacity exhibited by Madame DeFarge – I mean Speaker Pelosi when she tearfully (crocodile, that is) stated, in reference to the feelings around the “health care” debate, "I have concerns about some of the language…being used because I saw this myself in the late '70s in San Francisco, this kind of rhetoric. ... It created a climate in which violence took place. ....”

Indeed it did. But, the violence to which she referred (the City Hall murder of gay activist Harvey Milk and Mayor George Moscone in November 1978) was committed by Dan White, a member of the Left not by Conservatives as the truth-challenged Speaker would have us believe from her purposely misleading comments.

(This, by the way is the point where the usual gang of idiots logs on and calls me a liar or some other name associated with bodily functions but, hey – don’t believe these facts? Simply stop your one-handed net surfing long enough to look them up yourselves. Instead of wasting time on sophomoric, unsubstantiated comments – bring me the “facts” you have to disprove what I’m saying).

This illustrates for all to see the moral vacuity of people like Clinton and Pelosi and most of the Left, for that matter who will consciously and shamelessly twist the facts not only to escape their own culpability for thousands of deaths past and violence to come, shifting blame onto anybody but themselves, even if it means the country is attacked or torn asunder in order to keep their sick hold on power.

tony| 4.19.10 @ 3:52PM

This "sick hold on power" was granted by the voters of the United States of America. Who are you to judge?

Dan| 4.20.10 @ 9:49AM

53% of the popular vote (out of over 129 million voting) does not constitute "the voters of the United States of America." This was by no means a unanimous decision, thanks to the thousands (if not millions) of registered Republicans who sat on their hands rather than vote for John McCain. Are you saying that 69 million people constitute "the voters of the United States of America"? Are we to believe that those 69 million people are representative of all 300 million of us? You may want to consider abstaining from hyperbole in the future, because it weakens your argument.

carnot| 4.20.10 @ 1:01PM

exactly. I seem to recall an incantation launched around the year 2000 that gained some currency among libs: "Not My President".....

Tom in Michigan| 4.20.10 @ 12:07PM

Well, no. It wasn’t. I think you are confusing the concept of “serving” versus the concept of “ruling.”
The President, Congress and indeed all political officers are expected to “serve” in accordance with the principle of “government of, by and for the People.” Instead, as recently evidenced by the “health care reform” bill crammed through the legislature via bribery, kickbacks, political favoritism, perversion of the legislative process and naked locker room threats contrary to the “will of the People,” we are witnessing the rise of a nascent, presumptive “ruling class.” This is a particularly insidious development because instead of serving the interests of the People, this Administration has decided to use informal politics (i.e., the nefarious techniques I mentioned above) to limit the boundaries of formal democratic institutions according to their, not the People’s vision of governance.
Also, in terms of the “hold on power,” all government officials at all levels of government are supposed to serve in accordance to the “consent of the governed.” This political theory of “consent” is the foundation of representative democratic republicanism and contrasts directly with “the Divine Right of Kings” in that the power resides solely with the People and is only conferred to the political class as the People permanently retain the moral right to power. By “a sick hold on power” I mean a refusal to acknowledge their power is only a temporary allocation at the discretion of the People. You are correct in that we did indeed vote them in but, that did not mean we abdicated our power to them permanently. Plus, I would remind you of Jefferson's warning about the potential of "the tyranny of the majority."
You know, though. It’s not the actions and behavior of Leftist leaders that I find most disturbing. Rather, the thing that concerns me most is the fact that so many people in this country, especially those who show such intense concern about the rights of others, even the undeserving such as illegal enemy combatants seem so willing to abrogate their OWN rights because they’ve apparently decided that the Left has such moral suasion that they can do no wrong and are therefore beyond reproach.

carnot| 4.20.10 @ 9:23AM

"dude"....you missed the most damning "j'accuse": it was Clinton and the Democrats who were largely responsible for the lack of urgency and intelligence community stovepiping that led to 9/11.

S.L. Toddard| 4.19.10 @ 2:36PM

Magnificent piece again, Mr. Antle.

Tony| 4.19.10 @ 2:53PM

Mr. Antle, with all due respect to your opinion, Bill Clinton did not need to exploit "McVeigh's atrocities to turn back rising conservative and populist opposition to his agenda." Mr. McVeigh handled that himself when he decided to blow up a building with kids in it.

Tom in Michigan| 4.19.10 @ 4:02PM

Perhaps but, we Conservatives universally condemn the actions of domestic terrorists like McVeigh. We don’t make them our pals and let them ghost-write our “autobiographies” like certain Leftist Presidents I could name.

Here’s how Clinton and his advisors exploited the OKC bombing as a political tool to discredit and outmaneuver the Gingrich Congress (“Never let a crisis go to waste” is not just an Obama strategy – it’s Alinskyism to the core and, Hillary Clinton is an Alinsky accolade by her own admission).

As many of us recall, Clinton was having serious political problems in April 1995 following the “gays in the military” debacle, the disaster of “Hillarycare” (if only she’d thought of the Obama/Pelosi/Reid bribery/kickback/”make up the rules as we go along” strategy in those days!) and the drubbing the Democrats had taken in the 1994 mid-term elections which gave the GOP control of both houses of Congress. Moreover, Mr. Bill was polling poorly due to his perceived ineffectiveness following these and other failures (not to mention scandals such as Travelgate, etc.) of his early presidency. Gingrich and Company used this situation to gain the initiative on almost all fronts.
But, almost immediately after the bombing of the OKC Murrah Building, Clinton made a speech in Minneapolis saying. "We hear so many loud and angry voices in America today whose sole goal seems to be to try to keep some people as paranoid as possible and the rest of us all torn up and upset with each other," he said. "They spread hate. They leave the impression that, by their very words, that violence is acceptable."
Then-Clinton advisor Dick Morris (now an apostate of the Left) revealed the strategy behind this cynical and self-serving speech in his book Behind the Oval Office. That is, Morris presented "How to use extremism as issue against Republicans," stating in the presentation that direct accusations of extremism might backfire because it would be difficult to paint Republicans as “extremists.” Instead, Dick recommended the Clintonistas use what he called the “ricochet theory” whereby they would “stimulate national concern over extremism and terror…by using his Presidential authority to impose severe measures against so-called extremist groups explaining these measures were ‘necessary’” (“Necessity is the argument of tyrants and the creed of slaves,” Pitt the Younger) to prevent further such attacks.
According to Morris; these actions, such as new limits on firearms (none of which were used in OKC, by the way) were intended to outrage groups like the National Rifle Association (“extremists” in Leftists’ eyes) who the Clintonistas imagined would write their local Republican congressmen resulting in self-inflicted linkage between Republicans and these purported “extremists” when the Republicans (in their usual self-immolation mode) made these missives public. Morris goes on to say in subsequent writings, “by making proposals we knew the Republicans would reject…we could label them as soft on terror and imply a connection with the extremism of the fanatics who bombed the Murrah Federal Building."
Of course, with their willing accomplices in the Marxstream media, this strategy worked better than anybody could have ever imagined. As we all know, Monica Lewinsky’s boyfriend (this scandal was nascent at the time) was re-elected in 1996.
If this is not a cynical and contemptible exploitation of terror, human death and destruction, I don’t know what is. It is the same strategy being used by the Left today to paint peaceful dissidents against Leftist overreach as wild-eyed McVeigh wannabes.
Don’t expect to hear this during the current OKC commemoration, though. Instead, count on the usual suspects at MSNBC, CNN, Newsweek, etc. to tell the Clinton side of the story with utter disregard to the consequences of their complete whoredom to the Left.

tony| 4.19.10 @ 5:01PM

So, along that same line, can you perhaps see how the Left felt when George W. Bush exploited 9/11 to go to war with Iraq? Making up things like WMD's and fantasy yellow cake stories? Which is the bigger travesty, I ask you? Which cost us more in lives and treasury? Which is still costing us to this day?

Cpm| 4.19.10 @ 5:48PM

Everybody condemned McVeigh. Clinton exploited it. Dick Morris was the architect.

Cpm| 4.19.10 @ 5:52PM

The 'fantasy yellowcake' turned out to be true. And yet now the Obama Administration is trotting out the exact same meme, our greatest threat is proliferation of WMD's to non state entities. So I guess it is a credible argument now.

Tom in Michigan| 4.19.10 @ 7:47PM

Conflating a mass murdering dictator who did indeed possess weapons of mass destruction (including 500 tons of yellow-cake uranium – still in Iraq when the Allies invaded in 2003 – you can look it up) and used them against neighboring Iran and his own Kurdish population with the people of the United States exercising their God-given right to free speech and performing their duty to dissent against an overreaching government and incipient tyranny, however “soft” shows a singular lack of critical thinking (as does endless regurgitation of Leftist sound bite/talking points and unsustantiated opinons passed off as "facts") as well as a lack of anything even closely resembling a moral compass.

Sorry to be so harsh but, it’s easy find some exception to this or that statement but, more often than not it’s the exception that proves the rule (e.g., “That Schindler! What a nice guy, saving all those Jews. See. Nazis can be nice too!”). Plus, arguing something did not exist because it couldn’t be found after the fact is specious reasoning at best (e.g., “We couldn’t find Martin Borman so, he must not have been in Germany during WWII.” Perhaps Martin, like Saddam’s WMDs simply moved to Syria?). How do you prove a negative? In other words, this is merely argumentum ad ignorantiam ("appeal to ignorance”) or negative evidence, a common logical fallacy (especially beloved by Leftists to whom disinformation is a powerful weapon) which claims that a premise is true only because it has not been proven false, or is false only because it has not been proven true. This argument is contrary to the objective evidence on the ground which proved Saddam did indeed have WMDs and was willing to use them.

I won't debate the Iraq issue further except to say that Bush acted according to the recommendations of his predecessor in the Oval Office (whose NY Senator wife also voted in favor of the invasion) and, the intelligence at the heart of the decision was generated by Clinton's CIA Director who remained in the Bush Administration. Iraq is a free nation today as a result – not perfect of course but, what nation is?

As for the Left; they are people for whom I have no regard whatsoever. Their opinions and actions are seldom, if ever based upon truth or noble intent. Rather, they achieve and maintain their power by perpetuating falsehoods and by exploitation of the weak and ignorant and contribute to the rot of civilization wherever they attain that power. I consider them not "the loyal opposition" but rather the enemies of our country and everything "good and green in this world." Their legacy is Nazi Germany (Yes. Hitler was a Leftist), Communist tyranny and the oppression and murder of hundreds of millions of innocents. They are to be defeated not engaged or accomodated because they themselves will accept nothing less than victory.

Steve J.| 4.19.10 @ 8:03PM

Conflating a mass murdering dictator who did indeed possess weapons of mass destruction (including 500 tons of yellow-cake uranium – still in Iraq when the Allies invaded in 2003 – you can look it up)

Yellow-cake is NOT a WMD

Cpm| 4.19.10 @ 9:02PM

If Obama's Justice Department thinks a bunch of drugstore commandos running around in the woods of Michigan were planning to attack law-enforcement personnel with weapons of mass destruction, I think 500 tons of yellowcake qualifies. What do you think Saddam was planning on using it for?

Dan| 4.20.10 @ 9:40AM

This reminds me of the Monty Python sketch about the Argument Clinic. Can you do nothing but gainsay what others post? Provide some facts to back up your assertions, or in other words, stop peeing in the pool.

Tom in Michigan| 4.20.10 @ 10:42AM

Thank you for the correction. Yellow cake uranium is not a WMD any more than botulinum toxin or anthrax bacillus is until they are "weaponized." Perhaps I should have said "as well as 500 tons of yellow cake uranium” thereby distinguishing the raw material from the final product for which it was intended.
Nevertheless, the simple fact is; 550 metric tons of yellow cake uranium was indeed removed from Iraq by US and Canadian military forces after the Iraq invasion. Apparently Iraq purchased this uranium from Niger (of all places!) in 1981. While the yellowcake itself needed to be further purified for use in a nuclear weapon, it is highly unlikely it was intended for peaceful purposes (although you may prefer to think otherwise as is your prerogative).
Our agreement on this point notwithstanding, Saddam Hussein did possess WMDs which he had deployed against others. However, it was not necessarily the mere possession of either the yellow cake or the previous deployment of WMDs which persuaded CIA Director George Tenet (first appointed by President Clinton) to tell President Bush in December 2002 that the intelligence case against Iraq justified a preemptive invasion. Rather, it was the potential threat of further mass murder following 9-11 that precipitated Tenet’s recommendations. The information concerning this potential threat from Saddam Hussein presented by former Secretary of State Colin Powell at the United Nations was also developed by the Tenet-led CIA. This information was, of course developed during the Clinton Administration which also accepted its veracity until it became politically expedient to do otherwise.

Phillip Marshall| 4.29.10 @ 10:27PM

Let's not forget that MI5 and MI6 created false document as ordered by the Clinton adminsitration that would be used on some future date to portray that Saddam Hussein had acquired nuclear materials. This memo was presented to Bush without Bush's knowledge the document had been contrived by Clinton as part of a political agenda to contain Hussein and validate actions by the Clinton administration. Seems that Tenet forgot to let Bush know that British intelligence and the CIA had worked together to fabricate a tale -

Eric| 4.19.10 @ 9:50PM

Tom,

You are insane fool. It is truly amazing that lunatics like you actually consider yourself intelligent, analytical, and rational beings. You are truly insane. Virtually every charge you level at the "Left" can also be leveled at the Right, and THEN SOME.

I have no inclination nor the time to rebut your voluminous lies and distortions of history and reality. I will instead choose a single statement you made to show your ignorance and bias:

"Iraq is a free nation today as a result – not perfect of course but, what nation is?"

THAT is your analysis of the Iraq war??? You leave out the 1000's of dead US soldiers, the 100,000's of dead Iraqis, the TRILLIONS of $'s that will have been spent on the war when all is said and done (remember that little deficit thing you righty nuts are always yelling about??), the taking our focus, resources, and energy off of Afghanistan which therefore is still a major problem today, the rise of a much bigger threat, IRAN, during this time (who we all took our eyes of due to Dubya's Iraq Revenge for my Dad war. Iran and Iraq will be closer than Iraq ever will be to us), never getting Osama bin Laden (remember him?), and damaging our relations with allies around the world. ALL THOSE THINGS are the costs and result of Dubya's war of choice. But you gloss over ALL of that and say: 'well, duh, that Iraq place there is, um, duh, full of that freedom stuff now ya know. Therefore, I conclood that it was a good idea and justy-fies all the costs and negative repercussions that it brought about. Yup, that's what i thunk about it.'

You are regular Rhodes Scholar Tom.

And to the rest of you right wing fools: you try and distance yourselves from TMcV, but out of the woodwork crawl all the nuts on your side suggesting that TMcV was not that wrong in what he did, and that "armed americans" might have to do the same some day if things get too socialist 'round herr for y'all. Yup, they crawled out of their holes right into the daylight here, on this very site. And yet all you could do was shout: 'you are really from the left, trying to make us righites look bad!' WRONG. You are making YOURSELVES look bad every moment of every day. You can thank Sarah Palin and the rest of the dimwits on your side for that.

You are all a bunch of delusional nuts. Take a long hard look in the mirror and realize how out of your freaking minds you are. If that doesn't work, get professional help, or at least resort, use one of the many guns you all seem to have and use it for some good for once, and take yourself out of your misery.

Dan| 4.20.10 @ 9:39AM

The trolls are out in force today.

Tom in Michigan| 4.20.10 @ 10:44AM

Goodness! Little nasty twisted ones too!

Tom in Michigan| 4.20.10 @ 5:19PM

Setting aside the personal attacks, gratuitous insults, the risible and inaccurate characterization of a single sentence as “analysis,” your own Bush Derangement Syndrome-inspired "analysis" of the Iraq War, the fact the Left stood squarely athwart any attempt by the Bush Administration to effectively address the Iran issue as well as the current Administration's own acquiescence in that same regard not to mention the sophomoric faux monologue (you are a kid, right? I pray you're not an adult thinking and writing as you do) you try to pass off as reasoned discourse and the morally bereft suggestion that those who oppose your way of thinking should commit the mortal sin of suicide; are you saying that human liberty, the gift America has given to hundreds of millions of the oppressed peoples of the world has a finite cost limitation that, once breached makes that liberty not worth attaining?

Tim*| 4.19.10 @ 2:58PM

Which came after The Clinton Administration burned kids to death at Waco ,setting off a violent McVeigh .

tony| 4.19.10 @ 3:11PM

Who set fire to the Waco compound?

Reasonable Texan| 4.19.10 @ 3:13PM

I remember loathing Bill Clinton. Still do, I guess, but he seems tame, policy wise, by comparison. Still, nothing should be uttered anywhere about violence against him or anyone else - not even to sound cute on a website. And please, I am from Waco. For all the blunders of Janet Reno and Clinton - David Koresh/Vernon Howell was a drug dealer, serial sex addict and statutory rapist. He does not deserve the adulation some ascribe to him.

tony| 4.19.10 @ 3:43PM

Gleaning from some comments posted here, I feel the need to clarify that the no one in the Clinton Administration set fire to the Waco compound. David Koresh set fire to the Waco compound. Whether you feel that Janet Reno handled the situation well or not leading up to that murderous act is another matter. Please try not to confuse and twist the facts just so you can make your partisan points .

Tom in Michigan| 4.19.10 @ 5:22PM

This is an off-topic attempt to confuse the issue.
Your “facts” are also dubious.
Regardless of how the fire was set (and that is a matter of controversy, not fact - Danny Coulson who was Deputy Director of the FBI and at Waco says the Feds did indeed use M651 CS tear gas grenades so, you cannot say definitively how the fire was initiated. Also, nobody in their right mind would deify a child-molesting monster like David Koresh) the point is the exploitation of tragedy and death and cynical dissembling by Clinton and others on the Left to further their partisan, Leftist agenda.

Tim*| 4.19.10 @ 5:38PM

Well then, Tony , who blew up The Alfred P.Murrah Federal Building ,in Oklahoma City ? Hmmmmm ?
Nobody From Any Tea Party Group ,Sport .

Who have The Tea Party Rallies ever caused to die ?

Answer, : NOBODY !

Soooo , don't buy into this Clinton Crap.

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Deb| 4.19.10 @ 4:40PM

Many thanks for this honest criticism of Clinton and Democratic leaders who have been total hypocrites when it comes to free speech and political dissent I'm sickened by Clinton's past and present efforts to win political points exploiting the Oklahoma City Bombing. As a family member of one of the victims and a political Conservative, I think I am within my rights to say "SHAME ON YOU" to Clinton, et.al. for their disingenous and morally bankrupt broadbrush condemnation of anyone questioning their politics. McVeigh and Nichols were MONSTERS and deserve their fates. We have denounced them as the cowardly murderers they were, or are, in Nichols' case. For ANYONE to suggest that the VAST majority of Americans (and I count Tea Party members in that group!) who disagree with Pres. Obama and the Democratic agenda are in league with the McVeighs of the world are insulting and damned hurtful.

Marc Jeric| 4.19.10 @ 4:46PM

Let us not pay any attention to what that disbarred felon Clinton says.

Northern Rebel| 4.19.10 @ 4:58PM

Can't tell ya:

I know you wanted us to think you were Ed Koch, Glenn, but we all recognized you.

Cut it out Beck!

Margie| 4.19.10 @ 5:06PM

Feb. 2010 Breitbart post about Clinton's plan to discredit the T.E.A. Parties:
http://biggovernment.com/capit.....terattack/

Nick| 4.19.10 @ 5:26PM

Unless Bubba the pervert: 1) turns himself into the proper authorities, 2) confesses how many women he has raped over the years, and 3) he then gets castrated; I don't really care what Bubba has to say.

Michael Tomlinson| 4.19.10 @ 7:28PM

The different Tea Party groups need to find a devout Muslim to become their spokesman (women need not apply, because they cause earthquakes). Democrats never challenge devout Muslims -- motives or actions. Look how the Iranians keep bitch slapping the Vaginal Occupant of the White House and he keeps coming back for more and begging them to be nice to him.

Call this a jihad (the non-violent form) and Democrats will praise it and leave it alone.

Albert| 4.19.10 @ 7:58PM

I am still amazed that Bill Clinton has any credibility at all with anybody. This is the guy who took illegal campaign contributions from the Communist Chinese military and then gave them the modern technology that the they are now using to build the largest and one of the most advanced militaries in the world. By any objective standard, Bill Clinton is a traitor and bribe taker and should be in prison. That this jack-ass should spout off on any issue at all is insulting. That he should talk about conservatives as if we were violent domestic terrorists is outrageous. Especially in light of his own crimes at Waco. It is the LEFT that uses violence to achieve political ends (Bill Ayers, anyone?). All conservatives want is to be left alone by government, and it is leftist government that refuses to leave us alone.

Aelfgyva| 4.23.10 @ 10:28AM

Well said, Albert! You might have added that this toad is, perhaps, the greatest of all current hypocrites.

Steve J.| 4.19.10 @ 8:02PM

This is the guy who took illegal campaign contributions from the Communist Chinese military and then gave them the modern technology

This is a lie.

Eric| 4.19.10 @ 9:59PM

Steve J.: don't bother (I know, I should take the same advice).

Facts matter not to the right. Sure, both sides distort and lie, but we've reached an extreme point in the last several years. And Bill Clinton hit the nail on the head by suggesting the internet lies at the root of much of the problem. Instead of being a great source for information, for much of the country, it is simply a resource to find the answer THEY WANTED TO HEAR. Both sides do this, but the right masters it with their oft cited beliefs that: so-called experts are full of it, science is often a crock and not to be trusted (global warming), "main-stream media" is not a source of information, but of lies, and that one should just "google" it themselves and find out their "own truth."

Truth is dying every day. Very few people left or right care about, but on the right, they are on a crusade to destroy its foundation. It is not surprising that a group with so many religious zealots would disparage scientific facts and opinions of experts with fancy degrees.

Truth is Dead.

H| 4.20.10 @ 12:03AM

Eric...you are a complete dolt. When were leftists ever interested in the truth. Your rant about the war in Iraq is laughable and pathetic. It was worth every penny and every precious drop of blood to free 25 million people from Saddam and his thugs. What in the world would you have done after hearing of the casualties at Okinawa? In the context of 20th century warfare, Iraq has been a huge success. Truth is dead...when you are a stupid liberal like Eric.

Tom in Michigan| 4.20.10 @ 12:46PM

The vast majority of people do indeed care about the truth but, the problem is; too many people are afraid they will be subjected to vicious personal attack should they dare to speak it (Ahem!). Plus, dissembling liars like Mr. Clinton also have gained a degree of power in direct contrast to their veracity but in direct proportion to their mendacity. Yet there are those who would aver that somehow the Left alone is the sole remaining repository of verisimilitude.
However, I would have to agree about the internet. Google for example is a terrible search engine - enter almost any topic you choose to research and up pops Wikipedia, the McEncyclopedia of our day. No wonder so many people have no idea what they’re talking about. You also have to sort through the plethora of partisan sites (some truly vicious like the Huffington Post, trying desperately not to go over to the Dark Side) before you even come close to finding objective information.
It takes WORK to find the truth, which a lot of people avoid by just absorbing, sponge-like whatever sound-bite or rhetorical junk food they hear on TV. It also takes education (an asset sorely lacking in the US due to the incredibly successful efforts of Obama-pal and ghost writer and former terrorist Bill Ayers and the other canker sores who have afflicted the Academy for the past 40 years) to be able to discern it once you've, against all odds stumbled across it. The truth is almost never what you are told, especially by those in the modern media. Finally, the internet gives every Momma's basement-dwelling sophomore and sociopath with a key board a voice on almost any topic. Especially those without any "fancy degrees."

Nick| 4.19.10 @ 11:36PM

Steve J. and Eric,

What does it feel like to defend a lying rapist?

Do you guys also defend cop-killer Wesley Cook, aka Mumia Abu-Jamal?

Albert| 4.20.10 @ 9:11AM

No. It is not a lie. But then to expect truth from a leftist is to expect winged flight from swine.

Tom in Michigan| 4.21.10 @ 8:15AM

How can I not reply to such a brilliant riposte?
The facts are, when Bill Clinton was inaugurated in 1993, Chinese missiles had very limited range and weren't very accurate either. They did not present much of an intercontinental threat, therefore. But, by 2003, the Chinese ICBMs were capable of hitting anywhere on the North American continent. How did this happen?
Well, just for openers, attitudinally speaking, Obama's idea that a balance of power among nations is preferable to the existence of a single superpower is not new. Clinton felt exactly the same way so, he was unhappy with the US as the sole super power after the collapse of European Communism during the Bush 41 years. As a result of this attitude, Clinton's Energy Secretary Hazel O'Leary declassified over 11 million pages of military data and relaxed security procedures at U.S. weapons labs (Just like that. Why?). The Federal Government itself later concluded that China made off with the "crown jewels" of US weapons techology under this lax regime.
Moreover, Clinton also allowed military secrets to be sold directly to Beijing. Defense contractors eager to sell technology to China poured millions of dollars into Clinton's campaign. In return, Clinton and his Attorney General, the lovely and vivacious Janet Reno and counterintelligence officials allowed defense contractors like Lockheed Martin, Hughes Electronics and Loral Space & Communications to help China modernize its nuclear strike force. In return, the Chinese let Sesame Street film a special on the Great Wall (you probably watched this. Remember how cute Big Bird was?).
This belies the belief (beliefs being more important than facts to “liberals) by most "liberals" and other Leftists that somehow, the Democrats are not in bed with the defense industry but that the latter only favors the "evil" Republicans (who would destroy us all with their warmongering. By the way, did you know that the husband of California Democrat Senator Diane Feinstein owns not one, but two defense contracting firms? I didn’t think so). It also shows just how laughable President Obama’s (inaccurate) assertion was that the recent SOTUS decision to moderate McCain/Feingold “campaign finance reform” would “open the door” to foreign political contributions. The Democrats were waaaay out front with that one.
Chinese intelligence chief General Ji Shengde even once told former told Chinagate bagman Johnny Chung (who was charged with funneling illegal contributions to the 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign and a similar "straw donor" scheme to assist the 1996 reelection bid of Sen. John F. Kerry. He also told Federal officials as part of a plea agreement that Chinese army Lt. Col, Liu Chaoving, an executive with a state-owned aerospace company, gave him $300,000 to donate to the Democrats' 1996 campaign. Chung also gave a $50,000 check to Hillary Rodham Clinton's chief of staff, Margaret A. Williams during a visit to the White House which Williams accepted and passed along to the DNC, even though federal law bars government employees from accepting campaign contributions on government property. Chung was eventually convicted of bank fraud, tax evasion, and two counts of conspiring to violate election law. Chung was sentenced to probation and 3,000 hours community service. The Clintons, Gore and Kerry of course all got off Scot-free. Remember, this all happened under the Janet Reno Justice Department) "'We like your president. We want to see him reelected.” Indeed, Clinton's top campaign contributors for 1992 were Chinese agents; his top donors in 1996 were U.S. defense contractors selling missile technology to China.
Furthermore, in 1997 the Clinton Administration gave a 25- to 50-year contract to Hutchinson Whampoa Ltd., a Hong Kong-based shipping firm with ties to Communist China's government and its People's Liberation Army. The contract authorized Hutchinson to control the two major ports on the Panama Canal's Atlantic and Pacific entrances. This meant that U.S. national security interests involving the Panama Canal (which President Carter gave away) could not be protected without confronting the Chinese communists in the Americas.
Now before you get your shorts in a knot and start calling me a liar and assorted childish, school yard names; all this information was amply reported in such “liberal news” outlets as Time Magazine, the Washington Post and US News and World report. You can look it up. Of course, it’s much easier to just say “liar” than it is to find facts. Besides, believing President Clinton would willingly compromise US (and yours too, by the way) safety and security just so he could maintain a “sick hold on power” contradicts your whole world view (i.e., Democrats – Good! Republicans/Conservatives – Bad!).
On a personal note, an old friend of mine who is a retired US Air Force officer, combat veteran and now a nuclear defense intelligence analyst told me over dinner in March that they are still trying to undo the damage done to our nuclear deterrent by the Clinton’s transfer of technology to China.

Ellen K| 4.19.10 @ 8:14PM

Funny how Clinton "forgot" that the reason McVeigh gave for the OKC bombing was the botched taking of Branch Davidian strongholds in Waco. That wasn't talk radio that created the problem, it was Clinton's AG Reno.

Jim O'Brien| 4.19.10 @ 9:19PM

Clinton has been on the public dole so long! He would have made a great Communist leader in the former USSR.

CMD-1969| 4.19.10 @ 9:23PM

Why does the mainstream media and people in general keep listening to and giving credence to a former president who couldn't keep his zipper closed! Clinton couldn't run our country and he thinks his opinion is worth anything? Bill...put a zipper on your pants and your mouth and keep them both shut!!

carnot| 4.19.10 @ 9:28PM

everyone seems to be missing one interesting point: the demonizing, simple-minded rhetoric of Clinton and the Maobamists is also intended to appeal to the base. what a damning comment on the integrity, intelligence and self-control of that slice of the political spectrum!

JmsA| 4.19.10 @ 10:20PM

Does anyone remember when the term "Political Correctness" became vogue? It was during the Clinton administration. And anyone who believes Alinsky disciple Hillary had nothing to do with it, is drowning in Kool Aid. What a fine example of leftist HYPOCRITICAL MENDACITY!

GreyLion| 4.19.10 @ 10:56PM

Y'all are talking like you know what you're talking about. Violence? You have no idea what that would be like and anyone who would advocate for it has never seen it. Cast your votes again and again, disobey civily if you need to, but don't go talking about civil war.

Yosemeti Sam| 4.20.10 @ 4:38AM

" ... Furrowing his brow at the protesters rudely demonstrating their ingratitude to benevolent old Uncle Sam ...."

Well Billy Boy Bubba Bob Bud - just put some ice on it!

Richard Baker| 4.20.10 @ 8:41AM

Well, when Bubba wags his finger I take that as a sure sign that he's "prevaricating." This boob is a "Star" of the Destructocrat Party?

carnot| 4.20.10 @ 1:05PM

why would anyone listen to Clinton? If memory serves.....wasn't he labeled a racist by the Obama camp and media minions? I refuse to serve the ends of this racist!

Oldefarte| 4.20.10 @ 1:05PM

Clinton has reached a new low in his putridness as a human and a politician. He used his disguised MODERATEISM as a political tool to recapture the presidency from Republicans post Reagan, and faught a horrific internal war inside of the Democratic Party against the LIBERALISM of the Kennedys,etc and eventually [for Hillary's sake] against their stealth/trojun-horsed candidate Obama and lost the battle and the war. He's now clinging to his insatiatable desire for political power by become a tool of Obama, Emmanuel, Axelrod and the Chicago Way ganster political tactics by slandering, defaming,etc ordinary American-taxpayers who are simply fed up with the socialistic tendencies of government and its effect upon their incomes and are peacefully protesting via the tea party movement. Its amazing that he lambasts their non-existent violence when he and Janet Reno used the FBI and the US military to invade David Korish's religious compound and kill innocent women and children in a caused firebombing of same. Its amazing that Democrats such as Clinton can look the other way when human thugs and trash take to the streets, burn/loot private property and physically harm innocents caught up in these riots [all for the BS cause of equal/civil rights]. Its amazing that he does not comment on the physical attack of two Republican operatives leaving Brennan's Restaurant in New Orleans post a political event, which resulted in the female's leg being broken in several places and the male companion's jaw broken. It's amazing the utter hypocracy of idiots such as Bill Clinton and his Democratic goons!!!!

Oldefarte| 4.20.10 @ 3:16PM

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chester arthur| 4.20.10 @ 6:56PM

The pantless wonder seems to forget his wife declaring from her broom that we have a right to disagree with any administration.Of course,I'm sure she meant with any conservative administration.Has everyone forgotten his statement on Air Force One after the election about' riding those bodies' of the victims of the OKC bombing back to the White House?To despise this guy is to grant him too much attention.

GavInTucson| 4.20.10 @ 11:16PM

Isn't it strange that Clinton would blame "speech" for the Oklahoma City bombing, when clearly McVeigh acted out against the government's handling (torching) of the Branch Dividions at Waco? The bombing took place on the 2 year anniversary of Waco, and McVeigh told authorities why he did it.

Of course, Clinton was always good at wagging the dog.

shearwater| 4.21.10 @ 6:51AM

Hillary Clinton apparently doesn't subscribe to the same ethic as Bill since she advocates people to rise up against the kind of tyranny they themselves would impose upon the American people. Waco Branch Davidians found out how ruthless Janet Reno could be under the Clinton Administration. Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck are doing their job by telling us a lot of things that make perfectly clear how the democrats are shredding our constitution. Unfortunately, the lag stream media are in the tank for the Obama Administration.

Pingback| 4.21.10 @ 7:00AM

Isn't it strange that Clinton would blame "speech" for the Oklahoma City bombing, Hillary Clinton apparently doesn't subscribe to the same ethic as Bill since she advocates people to rise up against the kind of tyranny they themselves would impose upon the American people.

Oldefarte| 4.21.10 @ 11:50AM

Once again, while these leftist bastards falsely assuce the tea party movement of violence,etc; their TYPICAL actions below speaks truthful volumns:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JamlN971AY

Aelfgyva| 4.21.10 @ 11:56AM

Bill Clinton is walking, talking hypocrisy. He is the personification of insidious fraud. He is a worthy beacon of the left, oozing duplicity at every finger wag. He has prevaricated himself into insignificance and I wish he and that wife of his would just go away....far, far away.

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