The American Spectator : Republicans Against Repeal

Deborah D | 4.8.10 @ 6:31AM

Well, this head is hot after reading this outrageousness! That's why we must get rid of incumbent RINO's ... they become entrenched in Washington-think. They're a bunch of cowards. Let's make sure they hear from us.

Mike Rogers| 4.8.10 @ 9:45AM

Think Globally, Act Locally!
Yes, we have to replace RINOs at all levels, but we need to start electing state reps with the spine to say HELL NO! to the Feds, instead of just asking meekly if the supreme court will give them a crumb.
A constitutional convention is needed:
Repeal the 16th - make the feds and the states duke out what should be constitutionally funded.
Repeal the 17th - end mob rule and restore republican government - the Senate was INTENDED to be chosen differently than the congress!
Add a short, clear, amendment emphasizing the original intent of the commerce clause, and thereby nullifying almost all federal law built on gross misinterpretation of "interstate commerce".
Add an enumerated powers amendment, nullifying all laws which do not derive explicitly from the constitution, and emphasizing that "supremacy" only applies to the constitution and laws legitimately derived from it.

The rock star at the top of the pyramid may represent us on the global stage, but strong local representation will help us turn our government the right way up. WE, THE PEOPLE, are sovereign, and never let the bums forget it!

Have you read YOUR constitution lately?

PAT| 4.8.10 @ 10:14AM

It is even simpler than you state. Simply pass a law saying that "any and all laws passed by this Congress that must be obeyed by the citizenry will APPLY TO CONGRESS AS WELL as the citizenry."
I do not trust any act of Congress that threatens fines and imprisonment if I don't do what they want, and then specifically EXEMPTS itself. Sauce for the geese (us) should be sauce for the gander (Congress and the President).

fred lapides | 4.8.10 @ 10:24AM

great way to get all of congress to funite against a bill!

Slowtrot| 4.8.10 @ 10:47AM

Include in thie same bill a prohibition to eliminate congressional pay raises and other congressional emoluments. They get what we get.

Tony A. | 4.8.10 @ 9:45PM

We know that Rush is planning his own health care plan - Costa Rica or whatever. Now, this is fine, it's HIS DOUGH. But our Congresscritters are planning on the same sort of escape, but using OUR dough. So, the question they ought to get asked as often as possible (in front of cameras, if possible) is "Senator/Congressman; are you going to partake of the health care plan you constructed for me and my family, or are you going to take the Limbaugh Health care plan"?

Belinda| 4.8.10 @ 10:58AM

The Congress doesn't mind passing laws that effect our families but make sure that their families do not have to suffer the consequences. So include in the law "amy and all laws passed by this Congress will apply to Congress and their families as well as the citizenry.

Obama stated that if his grandmother had fallen that he would pay for her hip replacement out of this own pocket because we cannot expect the govt to pay for this "excess". Question - how many of us could pay for Grannie's surgery out of pocket? I suspect not many.

RWinks| 4.8.10 @ 1:01PM

Good luck on actually seeing BHO paying for anything. The "spirit of sacrifice" doesn't apply to the One. Witness his lack of concern for the aunt on welfare or the half-brother living in Kenya on 12 dollars a year. Like all Marxist Democrats, Barry measures his compassion by his willingness to spend other people's money.

Missy| 4.8.10 @ 3:26PM

Obama's the Mercedes Marxist--he sure likes his luxuries, so does Michelle. She's never looked so good!

Norman| 4.8.10 @ 4:36PM

Personally, I think he let his granny die to keep her mouth shut about where he was born. She had already told everyone that he was born in Kenya, Why doubt her AND his own wife that says he will stop in his
home country" on his trip to Africa. He is the biggest liar of all times. He lies so much he believes it himself. He is human waste.

Jim McClarin| 4.9.10 @ 5:24AM

It was his paternal grandmother who said (and still maintains) that he was born in Kenya.

melvin satterwhite jr| 4.13.10 @ 12:32PM

What have he lied about involving his place of brith? You just jealous of his success on passing this health care coverage verus the inablitiy of the republican party to do the same. Sour grapes.

charlie B| 4.8.10 @ 11:43AM

Good luck with getting congress to even consider, much less pass, ANY law that restricts their power, diminishes their influence or requires them to eat the same show as us bottom feeders. NOT gonna happen. The really sad part is that even if we could find someone to replace these idiots, the new guys will eventually cave in to the corrupt structure that permeates D.C.

32 Year Republican Voter| 4.10.10 @ 8:43PM

Charlie B, your post is one of the few worth reading. None of these nuckle heads has a clue how things work in DC.

As if Congress is going to cut their own throats. HA. You ignorant posters probably keep sending your reps to DC but blame the rest for our problems.

Janelle| 4.8.10 @ 1:58PM

28th Amendment: Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not equally apply to the Senators or Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States.

Michelle Bachman| 4.8.10 @ 3:33PM

DEFUND OBAMACARE!! Starve the beast.

TOM| 4.13.10 @ 9:11AM

Michelle, have you read the health care bill? I suspect NOT! This is typical of negative people who want to say 'NO' to anything or anybody wants. Do you realize how many people this affects who are unable to get insurance. Apparently you are not one of these people so you just dont want anyone to have what you have!

Bill| 4.15.10 @ 9:06PM

Hey Tom I want your car. AS I don't have one. Do you have one? You gonna tell me no? Don't you want me to have what you have?

James Dunn| 4.16.10 @ 2:46AM

She probably hasn't. But you probably haven't either. I know I haven't. The thing is over 2,000 pages long, and it's written in Lawyer-code. Tom, NO BODY HAS READ THE BILL. Any body who says he has is lying. It would probably take a specialist who can decipher the complex lawyer-code a MONTH to get through the thing. It would be like translating the whole Bible.
Now, in defense of Michelle: No, it's not that she doesn't want others to have what she has. What she objects to is the government coming in and FORCING HER AT GUN POINT to GIVE HER EARNINGS to someone else. Forced Redistribution of wealth is ARMED ROBBERY. I take it, Tom, that you're a progressive. In case you don't fully know what that is, let me explain: progressive means being generous with other people's money. If you want to help those who don't have insurance, Great! Go help them, but don't hire the government to force me to help too. I would either help of my own free will, or not help at all. The policies you support (like this health care bill) try to help people by taking my money by force and throwing it at whoever needs it (minus overhead of course). Maybe if you guys would stop redistributing our money, we would have more dough to invest in businesses and jobs, and the poor people who can't afford to buy insurance would have more opportunity to make money and afford it for themselves!
Think about it.

JusWonderin| 4.11.10 @ 1:47AM

Try the 27th amendment, it's in there: "No law varing the compensation for the services of the Senators & Representatives shall take effect, until an election or Representatives shal have intervened."

Texas Jayde| 4.24.10 @ 1:34PM

won't happen. don't expect congress to do anything against it's own self-interest. states would have to force this through in the form of an amendment to the Constitution.

Lagiusmeatius| 4.8.10 @ 10:18AM

For one thing, pertaining to this "fight to repeal", there is no legal basis to do it without votes. The votes have been counted, and the law has passed. There is an important reason why Federal law supercedes State Laws. If a state were to deviate far from the norm of the rest of the country (think of the civil war--slavery, etc.), federal law prevents states from creating their own laws that fail to serve the best interests of the nation as a whole. While there are indeed many state laws that vary state to state, there are no state laws that over-rule a federal law. If we were to abolish this principle, we would have many states with a potential to separate themselves from the rest of the country in terms of general principles, progress (that is voted for), etc. Unfortunately for those that oppose the healthcare bill, we must understand the precedent with Federal law superceding State laws...that is the law, and it is the law for a reason. It can help to avoid another civil war caused by deviant states. Just my two cents.
Peace to all of you!
-Lagius

rtk| 4.8.10 @ 10:32AM

That which is not defined in the constitution will be determined to be law by the states, the 10th ammendment. I do not see nationalized health care in the constitution so I do not agree that federal supercedes state law in this case. It is time to get the mccain moderates out of DC. Noone who has any integtrity wants free gov't stuff at the expense of their own freedom. We are in this mess because of wimpy republicans who cave to liberal media pressure. Time to get those in office who actually have backbone.

Recon| 4.8.10 @ 11:30AM

We may have wimpy politicians, but they've had wimpy constituents for a number of years as well. We didn't assemble, we didn't stand up and fight, we didn't pay attention, we shutup looked the other way and got steam-rolled for it. Most of us, anyway. This is the first time I've seen the People step up to *THEIR responsibility*, which is to police their own government. I'm not here to defend the pol's, but We the People bear responsibility as well. I hope that we continue to stand and fight and participate. And I hope to see nothing but scorched dead earth left where the Progressive party once assembled at the end of the day.

sandyinohio| 4.8.10 @ 12:37PM

I read all kinds of sites, many where the younger citizens complain bitterly about the mess we "boomers" have left them, bereft of a decent economic future. Well, to my way of thinking, while most of us were working hard to invest, invent, provide over the past 40 yrs, those radical 1960s progressive/socialist democrat/ communist sympathizers were squirming their way into the govt and other institutions. Since retiring I have been active in reading, finding out what's going on, looking and traveling abroad, and going to TEA Party rallies, even contributing to my returning vet nephew's TEA party in another state's big city. I say we great boomers should get busy running these radicals out of govt before they completely ruin this country. MOST taxpayers are good, hard-working, independent-minded and self-supporting people, and really do not want to raid their neighbor's piggy bank or paycheck to care for themselves. MOST people are honest and believe that they should prosper or not due to their own efforts. I truly believe if we start calling these new programs what they are, WELFARE, the middle classes will start to reject in droves the policies of the communist "workers of the world, unite" crowd! Start calling these home loan stabilizing payments for homes people can't afford "welfare"; start calling these govt paid home energy saving tax rebates "welfare"; cash for clunker program, "welfare". We are going to spend so much money on welfare that taxes must be yanked sky-high like in Europe, so we will no longer be competing with them, but be just another "social welfare state"! AND voice your opposition to those RINOs and upcoming republican candidates, so they get the message: the silent majority is no longer silent and we are coming after YOU unless you get on board! BRAVO for your comments!

Jamie| 4.8.10 @ 3:29PM

I'm tired of those brats blaming everything on the Boomers! What have they done to improve matters?
Grow up and shut up!

tom| 4.13.10 @ 9:13AM

Yeah! Let's have a Stagnate party like the Republicans take over.

Mia| 4.8.10 @ 1:13PM

I really hope voters don't cut off all our noses to spite their face... McCain is one of the very few senators who have fought this bill tooth and nail from the beginning, and is still vowing to repeal healthcare. No one else in either house of Congress has been more vocal and more "in your face" than McCain. Maybe McCain's just still po'd about the election, but I'll take it. McCain is still fighting, and that's more than most senators have done - RINO or Conservative.

Julie| 4.8.10 @ 4:42PM

Get rid of RINO McCain--it's past time for the 'Maverick' to retire.

Sharon| 4.9.10 @ 8:49PM

Any candidate that is a member of the Trilateral Commission and Council on Foreign Relations (both promote the "New World Order" and globalization)....like McCain and Newt.....must not be elected to any office!

James Dunn| 4.16.10 @ 2:57AM

Yes, Mia, McCain has been fighting this awful law tooth and nail -- but he's horrible on other things like Amnesty, which would not only reward illegal behavior and encourage more of it, but would also greatly increase the voting blocks of the statist (democrat) party. And he sounds like Al Gore on "Global Warming."
J.D. Hayworth, McCain's challenger in the G.O.P. primary, will fight healthcare just as hard as McCain if not harder, without selling out the nation on Amnesty and Cap-and-Trade. If I lived in Arizona, I'd vote for McCain in the general if he won the primary, but I'd vote for Hayworth in the primary. No Senator earns the right to be supported by being especially good on a handful of issues. If there's a chance to replace him with someone better, then go for it.

MIke Rogers| 4.8.10 @ 11:06AM

RTK gets it, Lagius doesn't.
The constitution is the supreme law of the land, and federal laws pursuant to the constitution are the supreme law of the land. Everything else is left for the sovereign states, AKA laboratories of democracy, to work out for themselves, and after that to "we the people", because, in this country, we do not have to ask a bureaucrat's permission whether something is OK, unless it is clearly and constitutionally illegal, we get to decide for ourselves.

KennyP| 4.8.10 @ 11:12AM

Your comments are off base and it is easy to tell why. Your interpretation of how the Constitution and the states is reversed.
This nation was set up County to State to Federal, not the opposite.
This is what the Civil war was about, slavery was just a convenient excuse to strip away states rights. Federal does NOT supersede State...I'm just a service schmuck and I understand this, how come 'educated' people cannot?

RDN in Houston| 4.8.10 @ 11:27AM

Federal law supercedes state law when the issue is constitutional. When it is not constitutional it is settled through the courts. In this case, the Fed has made it mandatory that everyone purchase health insurance. The dems relied on the Commerce Clause in adding this provisionto the bill. It might not be constitutional.

There are at least two alternatives to derail this power grab: 1) the courts; and, 2) congressional defunding. The judicial process has already begun. If things play out in November 2010 and the GOP regains control of Congress, the albtross can be starved by defunding.

sandyinohio| 4.8.10 @ 12:42PM

And boy should there be a tremendous row on Capital Hill should the "new" congress with Republicans NOT DEFUND IT!

Jamie W.| 4.8.10 @ 3:06PM

If that happens, the Tea Party will almost certainly become a third political party. It will have to.

Jonathan| 4.9.10 @ 6:01PM

That will not happen. The tea party will never support a candidate. It is against everything they stand for.

crookedwren| 4.8.10 @ 11:40AM

Lagius, have you never read the Federalist Papers? The Federalist system was only meant to supersede the States (which, in the 1700s, meant sovereign entities) in those areas EXPLICITLY expressed in the Constitution. The Constitution was intended to BALANCE and CHECK the governmental power. Neither the States nor the Federal government were to be too big or intrusive. States had the advantage for going big because individuals then could move to another.

"Deviant" states, as you call them, are actually sovereign entities except in particular areas, the central being to provide for a common defense. It was intended to prevent States from a great deal of internecine-type bickering and one-ups-manship that might lead to burdening the citizens with war or economic destruction.

So, in terms of federal mandates that will require sovereign States to bankrupt themselves, impose more taxes on their citizens, and otherwise interfere in the States' sovereign concerns, THAT is specifically why the 10th Amendment exists in the Constitution.

And, as to the "votes" having been counted, read the Constitution. I know, I know -- "the Republicans used it." The so-called Reconciliation process was -- and I quote Byrd (who helped create this travesty) -- "NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER. . . ." supposed to be used for legislation this massive, this radical, this intrusive.

This Bill was signed into law using questionable procedures and involved too many back-room bribes ( and, yes, giving something to buy a vote should be considered a bribe).

Had Congress used proper, Constitutional procedures, this Bill would not have been signed into law.

Therefore, this Bill has been signed into law AGAINST THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED.

This Bill would have died if it hadn't been for corruption within the Democratic Party. This lifelong Dem. is appalled and ashamed of the Party. I will probably NEVER vote for another Dem. the rest of my life (and, no, I did NOT vote for Obama. My research on ACORN and the Rathkes alerted me, before the election, to steer clear. The Obama's "acquaintance" with SDS / Weather Underground terrorists Bill Ayres and his lovely bride B. Dorn might have been a coincidence, a consequence of living in a radically- broken, corrupt Chicago world. But the Rathkes had SDS backgrounds, too. Then I found out the Marxists, the Communists, and the elite-enamoured Socialists were rooting for Obama. That was enough to lose my vote.)

I pray that this country returns to the vision of limited government that the Founders so painstakingly, and so wisely, put into place. WHY?

Because what the government giveth, the government can also taketh away. And they're busy taking what they haven't even given, what we've worked for, what we've earned.

I don't have much, and I don't mind being asked for a small portion to help those who can't support themselves, but this government health care bill that was "passed" through a questionable (at best) process -- and not according to the procedures expressly outlined in the Constitution -- NO. NO. NO.

And as to the Republican Party and Congress in general, if they can be bought and silenced so easily, they are not worth the salary we are paying them -- and should be "fired" (aka voted out of office, removed from office) ASAP.

The Deuce| 4.8.10 @ 11:53AM

No, the best way to prevent civil war is to not put such unreasonable pressure on the states, in violation of the interests of their citizens, that they are left with no choice but revolt.

Jimmy| 4.8.10 @ 12:22PM

Lagius; you have no clue. please read the constitution just once, please. it states emphatically powers not specifically given the federal government in the constitution are reserved to the states. the civil war was fought over this. in other words, federal laws never trump a state's laws. it was the federal government violating this section of the constitution which resulted in the civil war, not deviant states. unfortunately for all of us, this healthcare bill may cause another....civil war that is.

Emery| 4.8.10 @ 1:08PM

I think we are over looking one important point here. The law of the land is what the Supreme Court says it is. Makes no difference what the founding fathers intended.
As long as we have a liberal Supreme Court, we are at the mercy of their far left thinking.
Wish it wasn't so, but sadly, that's just the way it is.

Angel S| 4.8.10 @ 2:18PM

The Supreme Court has to follow the Constitution. You need to study the US Constitution and its amendments more closely.

Jamie| 4.8.10 @ 3:32PM

Emery's a troll-a horses ass, too.

VN Vet| 4.8.10 @ 9:19PM

Ah, but the Founding Fathers built a TRUMP care into the Constitution, it's called the 2nd Amendment.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 9:58PM

Actually it's a fight between American patriots and anti-American communists.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 10:01PM

This post was supposed to go somewhere else. Thank the f***ed up forum.

VN VET | 4.8.10 @ 10:00PM

Trump CARD, that is.

Lucinda| 4.9.10 @ 2:48AM

Having a little trouble, VN VET?

Keep posting--you're great!

DR AL| 4.8.10 @ 2:33PM

Lagius?
You and your two cents are worth just that, two cents. I suggest you try reading the Constitution in depth, the Federalist Papers and the founders comments leading up to the Constitution and their motivation for the Bill of Rights. This bill, as the others is blatantly unconstitutional, violates Article 1, Section 8, the 10th, 4th amendments etc. Try the 14th. amendment on for size, never ratified and eroded states rights leading to replacing our Republic and making the United States a corporation instead. How does that work for you?
The Constitution preserved the lions share of power for the sovereign states who are beholding to the people. The bill was never read to the full seated membership of both houses three times as is required nor were the people given any opportunity whatsoever to read the bill passed by mob strong armed tactics in the dark of night. The morons who voted for the deathcare bill never even read it. A few doctors that actually went through the bill were outraged by the total abrogation of the people's rights. It is a crime of historical proportions and both parties will be removed and will pay for this egregious blow to an already dying nation.

What these cretins have done is treason plain and simple. The fact that they have excluded themselves puts the noose squarely around their collective necks. You may accept tyranny, communism, despotism foisted upon the rulers of America the people, I don't, I won't nor will well over half the population. The rinos are a pack of vile backstabbing traitors and will be dealt with accordingly. There are major changes going on behind the scenes and the results will put an end to the slavery to which we are all bound. In your case you obviously enjoy the chains of despotism, so be it. Federal law does not supersede State law when the law is clearly unconstitutional and is in violation of the 10th amendment therefore not protected by the supremacy clause!

D. C. Zimmerman| 4.8.10 @ 3:32PM

You are right as far as you go. You overlook the power of the states, under the 10th amendment to resist or reject federal actions that infringe upon state sovereignty. The framers were careful to protect the states from federal powers not expressly outlined.
I admit this right has become fuzzy since FDR, but it does still exist.

sooner_red| 4.8.10 @ 4:28PM

That was the whole point!!! This is a Republic of sovereign states! The Constitution LISTS the things that the central government is PERMITTED to do, and EVERYTHING ELSE is the province of the states and the PEOPLE. "Deviant states"?????? READ the Constitution. Understand it. Live it.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 10:04PM

You do realize that BJ Klinton used an executive order to abolish the 10th Amendment.

sooner_red| 4.8.10 @ 4:28PM

That was the whole point!!! This is a Republic of sovereign states! The Constitution LISTS the things that the central government is PERMITTED to do, and EVERYTHING ELSE is the province of the states and the PEOPLE. "Deviant states"?????? READ the Constitution. Understand it. Live it.

heater| 4.8.10 @ 7:32PM

you obviously don't understand the 10th amendment to our constitution or you haven't read it , or perhaps both. most likely both. have you read our constitution?

victor| 4.8.10 @ 10:03PM

heater:
"have you read our constitution?"

No, but he's probably read one that he can understand, "The Soviet Constitution."

Jonathan| 4.9.10 @ 5:58PM

You are mistaken. According to the Constitution, which has been ignored for the past 80 years or so, Federal Law does not Supercede state law. The only expections being those powers specifically granted the federal government by the Constitution. There are only 18 powers granted the federal government and the whole reason for the 10th Amendment was to make it clear that everything else is left to the states and the people.

There is no need to repeal. If the state Governers and Legislators were to grab their b***s and nullify the unconstitutional bill there wouldn't be a problem.

Rocky| 4.9.10 @ 9:17PM

So, if federal law trumps state law...and since marijuana is illegal according to federal law, but legal for medicinal purposes in Colorado...why do I have a "legal" marijuana farming operation next door to my home, and a "canabis pharmacy" down the street?

Jay Stemple | 4.8.10 @ 10:37AM

At this point, i am tired of playing nice. Dems got in, took over, and played the game their way. Any Republican running on a campaign to "play nice" or be bipartisan will NOT get my vote. It is time to play by the Dems rules; Dirty.

Angel S| 4.8.10 @ 2:11PM

This shows that these Repubs are members of the "Good Ol' Boys" club--WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER! VOTE THEM OUT!!!

This shows why the NRSC is miligning Michael Steele. Its because he will not bow down to them and I am glad!

They will never get the vote if they keep acting like this. They are just wolves in sheep's clothing.

blarset| 4.8.10 @ 3:56PM

I agree they are the same as the dems. INCUMBENT eliteists we must defend or freedom against!

Todd| 4.8.10 @ 2:44PM

R u crazy! A convention would be a disaster. No telling who the delegates would be. The constitution would be ripped apart. They would go wild with ammendments. If u think votes were bought during the healthcare debate wait till u see the disaster of a constitutional convention. No let's get the right people elected the right judges in place and challenge the current amendments one at a time. This is far saferthan your idealistic convention idea. I applaud your enthusiasm and I agree with your ammendments completely. Aconvention will let the foxes into the henhouse. Trust me brother. Ask mark levin about a convention good luck friend

Ron Moss| 4.8.10 @ 3:46PM

We the people need to stand against all violations of our constitution that was permitted to be ratified,
"In the Year of our Lord" 1787

Frank Knutson| 4.8.10 @ 4:19PM

NO,NO,NO,NO!!!!!!!!!
A constitutional convention cannot be restricted to one subject or controlled by any other means. It would give the Liberals free rein to completely trash our constitution and re-write it to suit their world vision. We must not give them that opportunity! Propose individual amendments wherever possible, but do not open the can of worms that a ConCon would be.

David Homer| 4.9.10 @ 4:54AM

The already works the way it's written. Why should we want it changed while the liberals reign? We would not get the changes we want. Instead the entire document would be trashed. If the TEA Party is not a party with candidates running this fall, then there will be no reason to vote. A lot of Americans are now realizing that the Republicans and Democrats are the same. More war, more taxes and more socialism from both is what we can expect. A Republican majority would change nothing. This nation is headed to fiscal insolvency and complete ruin. Both parties are responsible for this mess. Changing the constitution will only make it worse.

Allen Hanson| 4.9.10 @ 5:21AM

Article 5 of the Constitution spells out that a Constitutional Convention shall be called when 2/3 of the states ask for one. This happened back in 1912, and Congress refuses to call the convention. Friends of the Article V Convention (www.foavc.org) is pushing to make Congress obey the Constitution. Check out their website and join now!

Peter D| 4.8.10 @ 10:45AM

Thank you Deb,it is specifically the pre-existiung conditions rule which will destroy any legitimate insurance company.Mr Cornybn is the perfect example of the liberal thought process.That is making decisions based on emotion-the description of a liberal
There are ways,based on pools of pre-existing condition patients but do not throw them in the general group. "^%&*&$#@*

Susan Tenofsky| 4.8.10 @ 10:54AM

I agree! They are a bunch of cowards. The Republicans will hurt themselves more by chickening out! I hope someone has the guts to fight for "repeal and replace" and that's it's not just more of ...same old, same old...!

MTB| 4.8.10 @ 11:26AM

Agreed, they are definitely NOT listening to the majority of Americans who never wanted nor still want this law in the first place. They'd better listen and do the right thing, repeal the entire law and start over, or they'll be looking for health insurance elsewhere.

Ron Moss| 4.8.10 @ 3:49PM

By who's authority? That is the business of the church ormaybe the State but certainly not the Federal Government with enumerated powers.

Iris Clough| 4.8.10 @ 10:56AM

Agreed and to each and every one like them. They are actually worse than the liberals for these hide behind their facades fooling the innocents until it is too late. Let us all vote for strong Constitutionalists and men and women who will stand behind their word.

Rally 'Round The Flag| 4.8.10 @ 2:37PM

So right! We must examine candidates from both parties and ask these questions: Are they members of the Trilateral Commission, Transatlantic Policy Network, Council on Foreign Relations, do they support the North American Union (planned for this year), Do they support
a global government (New World Order-one world
government?) Believe it or not, we currently have
six Senators and forty-nine Congressmen (a bipartisan mix) that are members of the Transatlantic Policy Network, which is a division
of the New World Order. These congressmen
have a definite agenda and timeline for "getting the job done." That is what all of the rush and urgency is all about...and it's not for the good or welfare of the American people. Let's fight to protect our Nation and it's sovereignty!

ThomNJ| 4.8.10 @ 10:57AM

I agree with Deborah - all the more reason why we need to get rid of ALL the incumbents in DC - and carry it further to rid ourselves of wanna-bes at the state and local levels. Let's get real people in these service roles and get the too many attorneys out of them.

Purpleguy| 4.8.10 @ 2:39PM

When was the last time you told truth to power when your job could be at stake.... yeah I thought so. Walk in somebody's shoes before you criticize...

LIBS SUCK!| 4.8.10 @ 4:16PM

P. guy is a troll. We won't have any more jobs if Marxists like him prevail.

Power to the people!

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 10:08PM

Jobs or Freedom...it's Freedom of course.

Nobama| 4.9.10 @ 2:49AM

Freedom First!

Steve| 4.8.10 @ 3:35PM

Yes, this is exactly what is wrong with the Republican party--they have no backbone. We need to get these spineless weasles out of office and replace them with true patriots. Respect for tradition? What tradition was in this unconstitutional healthcare bill that will redistribute wealth and deny us the right to see a specialist? The tradition of this country is to stand up to tyranny. If they don't have the guts to do it, than they need to hit the road. (And I'll be willing to give them a little push.)

Sigmund Lichter| 4.8.10 @ 6:00PM

That's right - ALL THE INCUMBANTS ARE CORRUPT AND SHOULD BE VOTED OUT!
Ellect NEW GOP - BLOOD to protect our interest!

Nelson H.| 4.8.10 @ 6:25PM

Do not lose heart, conservatives! When something is utterly and totally unsustainable and unsupportable it must stop. The yin-yangish opportunity-danger part of the tale is when and under what circumstances it will stop, and what will come in its place. Thanks to the policies of feckless politicians dating back at least a century we are rushing headlong into a massive economic crisis. We can be sure that one way or another it will be resolved and our successors a hundred or more years from now will look back at this era in historic terms. Let's hope we can weather this stormy period better than the rest of the world.

nancy| 4.8.10 @ 8:15PM

I totally agree with you!! What a bunch of cowards who seem to always talk thru both sides of their mouths.
I believe we need to clean house this year ( and I don't mean spring cleaning)

Achilles Toejam| 4.8.10 @ 10:53PM

Then people wonder why the tea party people are leery of being joined at the hip with the Republican Party, they lie to your face tell you what they think you want to hear take your money and your vote then go to Washington and lo and behold you wake up in the morning there gone your bed is all messed up they use the last clean towel and didn't so much as leave cab fare on the nightstand and you go home feeling dirty from the interlude and swear up and down you won't fall for that again!

Well, if our people don't clean house of all these bureaucrats from both parties that have time and again supported unconstitutional bills or failed to safeguard our liberties by God maybe they deserve to get bent over the hitching post any congressman or senator that violates their oath of office and votes to pass unconstitutional laws should never be reelected they must pass the constitutional test if our goal is to restore our Constitutional Republic.

No more of this "well he's the electable guy," that's how we ended up with these liberal Republicans and why I firmly believe with a few exceptions Democrats or Republicans they're just opposite sides of the same corrupt coin.

"We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our selection between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat in our drink, in our necessities and comforts, in our labors and in our amusements, for our callings and our creeds...our people.. must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live.. We have not time to think, no means of calling the mis-managers to account, but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow suffers. Our landholders, too...retaining indeed the title and stewardship of estates called theirs, but held really in trust for the treasury, must...be contented with penury, obscurity and exile.. private fortunes are destroyed by public as well as by private extravagance.
This is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of society is reduced to mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering... And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression." Thomas Jefferson

old white guy| 4.9.10 @ 6:46AM

if the death penalty was used against all politicans who lie to get elected that would clean up the crap real quick.

Robert Chamberlain| 4.9.10 @ 8:27AM

That's exactly why we need term limits, It's time, they all have to go both Dems and Repubs. Join a "Tea Party" near you and carry the banner "Get Out Of Our House" now, and demand term limits for Congress.

Steven| 4.9.10 @ 11:59PM

No..you must repeal this thing..you need to spend as much as it takes...millions, billions, use up ALL your resources! You have to do this! Spend it all! Spend as much as you can! You need to waste your time on convincing 50 + democrats to vote with you!

Cmon do it! So what if every Democrat knows that you will vote against them..who cares! You must convince them that you will be even madder at them then you are...at some point they will realize you are right...

Dont give up the fight...spend everything you can use every resource you can to fight those things that aren't realistic....please live in your own world that says everybody is on your side...go ahead you need to spend it all! Once they see how much you really really will get mad, they will all change their vote.

Heck, I will even give 5.00 of my own money if I know you will spend all of yours...

Richard Burgess | 4.12.10 @ 3:07PM

AMEN, Deborah!! I'm with you (they WILL hear from me) - Out with the PANZY RINOs! I am sick of these weak kneed gutless wonders. We need people with GUTS! Someone willing to cut the Federal budget IN HALF and repeal what MUST be repealed! Can't do it? GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN and let the REAL cooks in.

carrie| 4.8.10 @ 6:42AM

out they go!

blarset| 4.8.10 @ 3:59PM

out they go! I'm with Carrie.Sign on with us!

Margee| 4.8.10 @ 6:55AM

There is a profound and disturbing problem with Republicans currently in office when keeping in good standing with their D.C. counterparts is more important than carrying out the will of the people they represent. Roll up your sleeves, conservatives--it's not just Democrats we need to vote out in November!

Peter D| 4.8.10 @ 10:48AM

Margee,is dead on.There is clearly no concern for the electorate who are not all persuaded that the person with Sen. or Rep. in front of their name has any interest at all in anyoine but"selves"

dkdanck| 4.8.10 @ 6:56AM

Sounds to me like the 2 C's, Cornyn and Corker, are first in line. Tea Party On!!

canuckistani| 4.8.10 @ 9:42AM

Ok and then what?
You have to have an alternative to the entitlements the country has grown in love of, like a whore to a tiger or cocaine to an addict. Are you suggesting detox for the nation? How will you pay for it and how will you tell seniors and defense contractors the jig is up? how will you tell farmers firmly attached to the government teat for 40 years they have to shape up or sell to ADM and Monsanto?
It has to be done, but throwing pragmatic republicans under the bus and risking further dem entrenchment is silly. Scare the bejesus out of the RINOs in the primaries and work from within to correct the platform deficiencies.

Lagiusmeatius| 4.8.10 @ 10:27AM

I agree that there needs to be an alternative given in any reasonable argument. In terms of entitlements, we all know that it would be pretty hurtful, detrimental, and seemingly callus to tell our senior citizens that they will no longer receive a social security check. Does anybody have any idea how many seniors would starve to death if we did this? These people from these previous generations helped build this nation, and it seems dis-respectful to say the least to deprive them of this entitlement. Living in such a relatively low-context culture with our seniors (putting them in homes, and many times forgetting about them)--we need to change the way we look at people around us. There needs to be much more respect for these seniors, because they deserve it! If we supported them ourselves, enough, there would be no need for social security. Unfortunately, the nations citizens have either forgotten this, or don't care anymore. Either way, social security is necessary for these people with the present way this country performs business--and the present way "we" look at and treat our seniors. This is just one example of an entitlement with no immediate alternatives. It's all in how you look at things...
Peace to all of you!
-Lagius

Bob| 4.8.10 @ 10:41AM

Some of what you say makes sense. For instance in China they revere the elderly where as here they appear to be disposable. However, new entitlements should not be created. yes, the people living on these incomes now need to be protected, they worked for it, expected and deserve it. It was part of their plan for their older years. But making a new generation dependent on the same benefits or more is asking too much at this point.
We know that the plan was a good one when it was started, it was supposed to be self paying, but like all other things politicians get their hands in it went sour.
It needs to be phased out slowly as it was phased in.

Jimmy| 4.8.10 @ 11:03AM

Seniors who depend totally on social security are already starving. it's not enough money to live on. and who are you kidding? no one is proposing to take away social security checks. but how about some reform across the board like income means testing, individually administered and owned accounts? our entire system is about to collapse under its own weight. what are you going to think about all this when you're paying $5.00 for an egg? it's coming, i promise you. i like Jay's opinion. this november, conservatives take no prisoners. we outnumber liberals 3 to 1 and it sounds like you're one of "them"

Iris C| 4.8.10 @ 11:04AM

I am one of the old geezers and I can tell you it would be wonderful if in this country the seniors could be taken care of in the bosom of the family but truth be told families can barely take care of themselves sometimes holding down multiple jobs.
Go Tea Parties

The Deuce| 4.8.10 @ 11:49AM

Yep, it would be callus to tell senior citizens that they will no longer receive a social security check.

It will be far more humane when we suddenly stop sending them social security checks *without* telling them, because the country runs out of money and nobody will lend us money anymore, and thus there is no money to send them.

And their families won't be able to take care of them either, because they will have been taxed into oblivion in the government's futile attempt to pay its debts.

megapotamus| 4.8.10 @ 6:15PM

Yes, this is our alternative which is no alternative at all. Whether anyone "likes" these programs or not they cannot continue in anything like their current form. Their popularity will be stretched a bit when their checks do not clear. This is absolutely inevitable barring serious trimming of these obligations, which NO ONE seems willing to even contemplate.

crookedwren| 4.8.10 @ 11:59AM

Social Security is not a blatant "giveaway to Seniors." Lest we forget, folks, most Seniors have worked for that money. They didn't choose to put the money in -- they were forced to put their money there. Most of us that need Social Security have had to use that system for "retirement" because we didn't have enough money to create a real retirement from the pittance that was left to save from our paychecks.

Seniors put that money into the system -- because they had to -- and that money represents a lot of hard work.

Like Madoff, our past elected officials have continually robbed us of that hard-earned bit, using it for other purposes. Now, the money has been used, not "grown," not invested -- as we would have done if we had had the choice. Like Madoff, these officials should be tried, convicted, and sent to jail, their goods sold, their retirement used to put some of OUR money back into a box that can't be robbed.

No, we can't just cut Seniors off from Social Security. The theft has taken place. We can't just starve and die -- although I suspect, knowing some of the views of Cass Sunstein and Rahm's brother Ezekial, John Holdren, and others in the Administration that's part of what this health care bill is really all about. Let's limit the medical expenditures of old War Babies and greying Boomers. Too many are far too conservative anyway. And, as GBShaw suggested, not particularly enriching the culture of redistribution. These folks have had their run, so why waste our money on them?

But, Lagius, it's true. We can't just stop with the Social Security. That wouldn't be fair to all those whose amounts on their paychecks were elided by governmental entities via governmental fiat.

Stopping it now would be a secondary theft. Seniors would lose twice. Not just once.

For most of us worked for that money.

And if our debt clock doesn't slow down, and we keep spending like ( I was going to say drunken sailors, but no --) like the United States Congress, we will lose Social Security. And our liberty. It won't be pretty.

David Homer| 4.9.10 @ 5:11AM

Please, wake up. Most seniors draw a lot more from Social Security than they put in. It is a socialist welfare program. Cutting them off cold turkey wouldn't work but the socialist entitlement programs have to end. We, as a nation, are going broke. Socialism bankrupts and destroys a nation it always has and always will. All entitlement programs have to end. And they will end, one way or another. There is no way the Chinese will keep funding our spendthrift ways.

sandyinohio| 4.8.10 @ 12:50PM

Rubbish! The upcoming boomers made good money from good jobs that have largely disappeared from our shores due to global competition. I am a saver; some were not. I say change the age for soc sec benefits to begin or cut them by 20% say. We need to do something and this something is better than that awful, controling, complicated, and intrusive HC "reform" bill the feds passed! Just start now to put the changes all the many commissions over the years have recommended. PERIOD! Many people already know they are going to have to work longer than planned; quit trying to avoid reality, that's how we got in these silly catastophic conditions to begin with!

RWinks| 4.8.10 @ 1:13PM

I know of no one who has called for stopping SS checks---or even Medicare. What people are calling for is stopping the rise in payouts so they can be sustained. Anyone who talks about stopping the checks is just trying to scare people so they will vote for Democraps.

Representative Ryan has laid out a plan which makes SS and Medicare sustainable and would put the country on a firm financial footing. Look it up.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 10:12PM

I'm retired, but I would gladly go back to work if it meant restoring freedom again. That's the overriding thing by far.

Live Free or Die!| 4.9.10 @ 2:50AM

Me, too!

Peter D| 4.8.10 @ 10:51AM

Preecisely,Canuckistani,one cannot,nor should they try to alter fundamental truths as that which you have stated.Keep on shouting.

The Deuce| 4.8.10 @ 11:44AM

No, the RINOs aren't going to have the bejesus scared out of them unless there is an actual possibility of them losing office for being RINOs. If they think that the plan is simply to make noise and "scare" them without really removing them (and they do think that) then they won't be scared. The only way to really scare them is to make examples out of several of them.

Ron Moss| 4.8.10 @ 3:53PM

The constitution was instituted to secure the God Given rights. When it is in violation, they are not secured. Enumerated powers need to be redefined by the States.

Susan Tenofsky| 4.8.10 @ 10:56AM

Agreed!!! Trouble is House divided fails...Tea Party needs Republicans vice versa.

NHConservative| 4.8.10 @ 7:11AM

If the Republican party abandons the effort to repeal ALL of Obamanation-care - it will be the end of that party. It already has become a pitiful eunuch in most of New England.

These 'leaders' must lay awake nights trying to figure out what to say to certify Republicans as 'The Stupid Party'!

fred lapides| 4.8.10 @ 10:27AM

Repeal is dumb! facft: GOP can not get sufficient members elected next time around to repeal and even if by some quirk they manage, the President could veto...the talk of repeal was a sham and pure bluster for the sillies back home who vote.

Lagiusmeatius| 4.8.10 @ 10:34AM

I agree. There was never any legal basis to perform a repeal of this bill. Just more talking points to earn popularity with the Republicans. As well, a chance for many republicans to "fund raise" towards an un-reachable goal. I wonder what all that money is going towards instead? I hope no more strip club re-imbursements...perhaps they'll use it for even more campaign funds, rather than the purpose intended by the donors. Those donors should get a refund, and the tax payers in the states trying to repeal should also get a refund. Tax dollars spent on a knowingly un-attainable goal. Can we say REFUND ?
Peace to you all!
-Lagius

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 10:15PM

Lag, if you take your head out of your ass the oxygen will return to your brain and you might be able to think again.

Nobama| 4.9.10 @ 2:51AM

LOL!

maryann| 4.8.10 @ 10:42AM

They can refuse to fund it. Congress spends the money, not the President.

Purpleguy| 4.8.10 @ 2:43PM

The President can simply spend the money the way he sees fit, and move it around ... Bush did it all the time... so that is factually incorrect, altho it might make you feel better to think it. But good luck with taking the funding, when there is no funding needed for a Trillion dollar savings on the deficit.

ZerObama| 4.9.10 @ 2:52AM

Stuff it, Purple Balls. Idiot.

Purpleguy| 4.8.10 @ 2:43PM

The President can simply spend the money the way he sees fit, and move it around ... Bush did it all the time... so that is factually incorrect, altho it might make you feel better to think it. But good luck with taking the funding, when there is no funding needed for a Trillion dollar savings on the deficit.

Michelle Bachman| 4.8.10 @ 3:34PM

DEFUND OBAMACARE!! STARVE THE BEAST!

Ron Moss| 4.8.10 @ 3:56PM

If you cannot find it unlawful, Yes Defund it.

Michelle Bachman| 4.8.10 @ 4:18PM

It'll take too long to find ObamaCare unlawful--in the meantime;

WE MUST DEFUND OBAMACARE!!

Purpleguy| 4.9.10 @ 9:37PM

Good Luck taking over the House dar.

VN Vet| 4.8.10 @ 9:33PM

The president is not authorized by the Constitution to spend a penny.

victor| 4.8.10 @ 10:13PM

Hey Purple Goy,
If the money is not appropriated in the first place, then the president can't do bupkis.
Read the American Constitution.
The president cannot spend a dime with it being given him by the Congress.

Purpleguy| 4.9.10 @ 7:47PM

don't know very much about how it works, do you? the President has the power to execute - or NOT - what Congress allows ... and he can move the money from defense to anything he likes - you twit

Peter D| 4.8.10 @ 11:00AM

Mr. Lapides;
Dont try sir,give up.I am delighted you were not with my comrades in Korea.South Korea would be an extension of the north.

Peter D| 4.8.10 @ 11:00AM

Mr. Lapides;
Dont try sir,give up.I am delighted you were not with my comrades in Korea.South Korea would be an extension of the north.

Mike Rogers| 4.8.10 @ 11:13AM

Actually, the ones about to get burned by the brushfire at the grassroots are the RINOs - if we can get them to step aside now, perhaps we can get 2/3 majority who will have the guts to shove this bill where the sun don't shine, even for Obama!
If 60% of the country hates the bill, imagine how many districts could go to repeal candidates.
Stop being timid!
Dealing with other entitlements will have to come later, but not too late as they are going broke very quickly - think phase out protecting existing and short-term retirees.

MTB| 4.8.10 @ 11:34AM

If they keep talking like this they sure won't get enough members elected, but if they standup and support what the MAJORITY of this country wants, we can definitely take the House back, and perhaps, just maybe take back the Senate, too. However, Republicans have a very bad habit of shooting themselves in the foot and losing when it really counts.

And, it is not dumb. Even if the One vetos it, it's symbolic and shows Obama for who he really is (as if he doesn't do that already). Then with control of the House, the Republican majority can defund the law forcing the dems to meet with them and alter the current law into something more cost effective as well as beneficial to all Americans.

sandyinohio| 4.8.10 @ 1:02PM

Think again, pal! If the Repubs win both houses of congress back and DO NOT repeal and replace the mostly ghastly HC "reform" bill, there will be hellfire and brimstone raining on Capitol Hill; and DEFUNDING it would definitely be possible. In fact, since the costs don't start for 4 yrs, stop collecting the fees that DO go into effect immediately!

joyce| 4.9.10 @ 10:17AM

Yes we must never allow this bill to continue and shame on any republicans who do not have the "" and fight for our country!!

victor| 4.8.10 @ 10:11PM

Fred:
"the talk of repeal was a sham"

Thanks for giving up and giving in Fred.
thanks for nothing!

Repeal, Replace and Defund!

Nobama| 4.9.10 @ 2:54AM

Mealy-mouthed losers like Fred--who needs 'em?

Peter D| 4.8.10 @ 10:54AM

Dear NH,it is equivilent to Coach "K" advising his team that Butler was unbeatable playing in their own home town..".just do your best"

Carol| 4.8.10 @ 7:18AM

Are you kidding me? After the shenanigans we witnessed, the Republicans now want nothing to do with repeal?

First, it was Coburn saying Pelosi is nice.

Now these lightweights in the GOP are saying, WE LOST? We sure did. The entire country lost. The country is broke.

Obama is striving to be like Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe. Ironically, this is in the NY Times today:

Here’s a measure of how President Robert Mugabe is destroying this once lush nation of Zimbabwe:

In a week of surreptitious reporting here (committing journalism can be a criminal offense in Zimbabwe), ordinary people said time and again that life had been better under the old, racist, white regime of what was then called Rhodesia.

Insert "life had been better under the old regime of Republicans" and maybe we could stave off what's coming.

Peter D| 4.8.10 @ 11:02AM

In addition to which,Carol Rhodesia, was both peace and financial success.Rhodesia fed much of their part of Africa.Perfect,"No" but growing and learning.

John - TMF| 4.8.10 @ 7:30AM

Time for a more accurate acronym than just the plain old RINO. (The term has no begun to lose focus and scope because it is applied to Establishment Republicans of long standing and great party loyalty - just not great Conservative fervor.) Also, RINO seems to be a North Eastern thing. (With a few blue state bleed overs)

NAR - Never Actually Republican

This is a class of politicians who are completely mercenary in their operation and principles. NAR's espouse whatever view gets them what they want, power, attention, money, goodies...etc.

They became Republican because that was the easiest path to a nomination and election. If they could do what they wanted by being a Greenie, or a Dem they would do that too.

Examples of NAR's:

Virgina has a fair number of NAR types -
Former Senator John Warner
Former State Senator John Chichester
Former Governor Marshall Coleman

Other states:
Charlie Crist
Lindsey Graham
Ronpaul -(whose cult following of quasi-LaRouchies will now spam this board... sorry...)
and now add
Corker and Cornyn
I am hoping against hope that Coburn hasn't revealed himself...

The common thread is that NAR's seem to be from the South. Men and women who used the GOP organizations during the 1960's - 1980's to get around the fact that they weren't able to make a dent in Democrat Party power circles.

My advice to the various Conservative pundits and authors out there, find the NAR's write stories about their duplicity and double dealings...

Mushy weak sister compromises are not what we need now.

If you have a NAR, and need a Conservative Republican, get involved in your local party, figure out how to primary or caucus them out at the state party level. November is too late. Put up good solid candidates and back them for the nominations.

I haven't checked but Cornyn and Corker probably aren't up for election this year. Texas and Tennessee GOP need a Tea Party.

r/The Mighty Fahvaag

RiverKing| 4.8.10 @ 11:33AM

You're right about Cornyn; he is not up for re-election this year. He will be with us until 2014 but we Texans are watching. I used to be a big fan of Cornyn's; I would probably have worked against him in the primary if he were running this year.

The bright glimmer of hope in this whole mess is the huge number of people who "have never done anything like this [political activism] before".

crookedwren| 4.8.10 @ 12:03PM

Nice list!

Keep up the good work.

Justsayin'| 4.8.10 @ 6:03PM

Lone Star Tea Party - APRIL 15th
http://lonestarteaparty.org/

VN Vet| 4.8.10 @ 9:38PM

What was it that Thomas Jefferson said about dissolving the government?

arnold Ahlert| 4.8.10 @ 7:44AM

Republicans can either develop some backbone--or they can end up as the third political party behind Democrats and the Tea Partiers

emo| 4.8.10 @ 7:49AM

Now I hope everyone realizes that this is from an AP hit piece that ran over a week ago.

That said, any GOP member who does actually oppose REAL should be defeated. The conservative base doesnt want any Edward Heath Torries and wont tolerate them .

Contact GOP members of congress and read them the Riot Act on this. There is no point in the GOP winning ANY seats , if the yarent going to show leadership.

emo| 4.8.10 @ 7:49AM

oops REPEAL

NVA Patriot| 4.8.10 @ 7:53AM

Tsk, Tsk,

Such a dour view. We're American and we're a lot smarter and tougher than the Republican or Democrat Party. We repealed Prohibition and we are going to repeal progressivism.

To get the job done we need to turn the Senate Conservative. It is a lot easier than people think. First the days of campaigning conservative & governing liberal are over. If you doubt that, look at Bennet in Utah. Look how McCain is running. Some think he'll turn back to liberal should he be elected - I don't think so. I still think JD will win. Either way the message is being sent - behave badly & you will be primaried. I have met Texas Tea Party folks - Cornyn's in trouble - he just hasn't got the memo yet.

All of us who care must act. We act local and plan national. Attend teh local Repub party - become a delegate and don't let progressives advance within the party.

Conservatives and libertarians are 70% of the population - our Senate must reflect that. To make this happen rounds 1 & 2 are defeating progressive Dems in 2010 and 2012. Once the Repubs are governing, we will see who we primary in 2014 and 2016. Identify the progressives. We primary them. by 2018 we have a conservative Senate. The goal is 70 seats. with 70 seats in Repub hands, the 'squish' wing has no power. Legislators have power in tight margins.

We will fix that - progrssive Dems out first, progressive Repubs out second. Look at how we took care of Florida. Next state is VA - we will deliver 2 conservative senators to the cause before 2016 is over.

We're going to win this and we're NOT just going to repeal healthcare. Our goal is repeal the entire progressive agenda including the income tax amendment to the Constitution. Our goal is 70 senators to IMPEACH nutty judges who release child predators and give rights to terrorists. We will simply with discipline, patience and the ballot box, systematically hunt down every progressive in government, reloading each election cycle 'till done. The revolution took 8 years followed by 20 years of fumbling to get to the constitution. We can restore America in less time - 10 years. It's a 70 Seat solution, 70 Senate seats & 70 Seat margin for a majority in the House.

canuckistani| 4.8.10 @ 10:01AM

One word: impossible.
Welfare is the elixir of the masses: both at the top and bottom ends of the pay scale.
Until the GOP and Tea Party start recognizing that the rest of the world has adopted social programs that are less costly, but are achieving better outcomes, the perception will be we are only interested in profit and not the benefits to our society.
Sarah Palin is the perfect example of working towards a better union of what not to do:
1. Support abstinence: only it failed in her own house!
2. Be a patriot and serve. Oh yeah she quit and has never stood for reelection on her record.
3. Support the Tea Party! (And campaign for McCain as a quid pro quo for her creator)
Anyone opposing her will pound these facts into 51% of American brains. How do you not see that?
Bachmann's farm welfare etc etc.
Doesn't it surprise you that anyone of real repute, with a durable record to stand on has NOT joined the tea party, other than shameless scroungings for endorsement?
Where's the platform, including the planks for tax reform, campaign finance reform, banking reform, and yes, health insurance reform?
You need smart people to actually craft this legislation, not crackpot windbags that are eating the oxygen today. It will burn out unless we reach out to people that have actually governed with some level of competence. I don't live there, but the Florida contest is shaping up to send a not-ready-for-primetime Rubio to Washington. Be wary and prepared when he flames out.
As Gingrich said: "if you have the facts, pound the facts, if you have the truth, pound the truth, without facts or truth, pound the table...." The table is taking a beating right now.

Me| 4.8.10 @ 10:24AM

Less costly? When you live in a country with a declining population and a significantly lower military budget than the US, I suppose you could make such a claim. Britain however is in a constant uproar about the amounts of money not being spent on NHS.

Better outcomes? Statistically insignificant, if you're pointing to the fig leaf of life expectancy, and that's considering that the US has a larger population than most socialized Western countries, a more diverse population than most, and a far less centralized system of government than most. And yet, life expectancy is on a par with most of these nations.

Then we get to things like individual medical choice, waiting times, cancer identification and treatment, medical and drug research, and other issues where the US has an advantage.

As for "governed with some level of competence" apparently you haven't been watching things in Washington or around the country. The Tea Partiers main complaint is that the lack of competence of current officials is why we are in the debt mess we're in. Yet, you talk about repute and durable records. There are very few who can make that claim in either party these days.

Talk about pounding tables.

Lindsey| 4.8.10 @ 10:26AM

Canuckistani: Go back to socialist Canada! We'll keep Sarah, Michelle and Marco. When we repeal the income tax and replace it with a national sales tax (fair tax) we'll have to build a fence on our northern border to keep you socialist Canucks from coming in to ruin our re-born nation!

canuckistani| 4.8.10 @ 10:37AM

It's a quaint idea, but America is an empire now, unless you have forgotten, and we import far more than we are able to produce ourselves in almost every sector of our economy.
This is a war nation, structured around administering our reach. I don't waste time debating whether a false nostalgic remembrance of something ever existed and choose to simply get on with creating opportunities for all Americans.
Canada's our #1 Oil, gas, lumber and ore supplier. Where are you going to get the raw materials to get us back to work? From regimes that are less friendly to our interests?
Think before you belch.

crookedwren| 4.8.10 @ 12:13PM

Canada is our supplier because the power that's been handed over to groups made up of questionably patriotic, unelected individuals -- many of whom believe that the money we earn should be given away to others. Many who believe that breathing is a health hazard. Many who insist on saying no to using our own natural resources.

The Feds have grabbed most of the resource-rich west. The Feds are busy discouraging entrepreneurs from developing many things that we import. The Feds' frown on clean coal will lead to increased dependence on oil that comes from other countries.

The Health Care Bill and the dark cloud of the EPA and Cap & Tax are making all but the mega-businesses nervous as all get-out.

They turned off the water to the lushest valley in California for a smelt. What makes you think, Cani, that anyone in this Administration is truly interested in developing these United States?

ZerObama| 4.9.10 @ 2:56AM

Canada is a dying country--who wants to be like them?

megapotamus | 4.8.10 @ 10:50AM

The point is, and it is a valid one, that this blizzard of entitlements has a constituency among the elected Reps and the citizenry at large. This is quite true but immaterial. There is no accounting trick that can keep these boondoggles running. The checks will bounce and that will put an end to their popularity. Marches of grannies on DC will not change a thing. The money is not there; just the reverse. A tremendous debt is all that Medicare, Medicaid and now Ocare represent. The only way to "pay" these debts is with spiraling inflation but the payouts are indexed to inflation. This is a vortex immune to talk, tears or treachery. So there is no practical benefit to compromising, electing say, a McCain because the supposed fiscal competence of Reps that has kept these pyramid schemes operating independent of the laws of finance will not cure the problem any more nor much less than O's prescriptions. Only the most severe fiscal discipline will remedy any of out various ailments. This truth shall be driven home, if not by politics (and probably not) or through the markets then Reality will bite, as she always does. Better it does not get to that point but if all else fails, that will not. He who doth not work doth not eat. We have violated that principle and pay the price, relearning an old lesson.

axbucxdu| 4.8.10 @ 11:59PM

While I would agree with you about what OUGHT to happen, there's a very big unknown that will determine what actually WILL happen. All these financial imbalances could get completely diluted by unprecedented global economic growth, especially in China and India. Nobody really has any clue how development in the global economy will affect macro capital flows.

Sure it's a long shot, but I also don't think it's wise to underestimate the ability of the Fed, their computers, and especially their printing press to surf through this thing by taking maximum advantage of that huge wave of growth.

Inverting Keynes, I'd say that governments can remain insolvent longer than we can remain rational...

Josey| 4.9.10 @ 2:57AM

Then i guess the PEOPLE will have to act.

axbucxdu| 4.9.10 @ 12:00PM

That's an even longer shot.

Citizen Jerry| 4.8.10 @ 10:36AM

Troll alert!

steveb| 4.8.10 @ 10:38AM

Canuckistani, I appreciate the fact the DNC pays you to post lies to try to shake up the faithful. The problem is your support of the most dangerous Regime in American history, the Obama Regime. Obama has proven himself to be an outrageous and willful liar...he has lied to the American people repeatedly about everything from bipartisanship to the actual costs of this healthcare disaster. His stimulus plan was a joke, his foreign policy a disaster. Our National debt under Obama will bankrupt our country. Now, what were you saying about Sarah Palin's daughter' s sex life? BTW, us Tea Partiers don't have an original thought about writing planks, and plans, so we just stole a few pages from another document - it's called the constitution. So, you continue to follow the Liar in chief's Regime. We'll follow the Palins and Rubios and the constitution, and we'll see who comes out ahead in November.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 10:21PM

That Pot sure didn't do anything for your thinking ability.

VN VET | 4.8.10 @ 10:24PM

Let me get this post where it's suppose to be. Canuck, that POT sure didn't do anything for your thinking ability.

Lagiusmeatius| 4.8.10 @ 10:50AM

There is nothing wrong with progressivism. Change is necessary as times, ideas, and general principles change (or as they are further enforced). Every party has made efforts to do this, and because of "progressivism", we as a country have abolished slavery, given women their due equal rights, we have helped to eliminate unfair child labor, and harsh working conditions, and much much more. Imagine going back in time, and trying to repeal this "progressivism"...and look at how the country would be. All of these things I mentioned would have stayed the status quo. Please understand that progressivism has helped this nation a great deal in becoming modern, and a more equal society in the harshest times of prejudice, and bad working conditions--even if you don't agree with some of the reform set forth by this movement, understand that the women, children, and others appreciate what it has done for them. Instead, focus in on the individual reform you do not like, rather than clumping one bill (or several in mind) into a category that is unfitting and one that (in this case) includes good policy and reform that has changed this nation for the better. We must be careful here...
Peace to you all!
-Lagius

Jimmy| 4.8.10 @ 12:09PM

please take your progressivism (liberal) notions somewhere else. common sense was the reason slavery was abolished and women were given equal rights. liberals like yourself are responsible for entitlements like social security and medicare and obamacare and....

don't confuse the two.

RWinks| 4.8.10 @ 1:35PM

Principles never change.

"Nothing wrong with Progressivism"! What planet have you been on the last 90 years? Over 100,000,000 innocents murdered. Dozens of countries looted and driven into poverty and misery. Just two examples: Cuba--highest income in Latin America before Castro--2nd lowest now. Rhodesia---2nd highest income in Africa before Mugabe's progressive policies---Lowest in Africa now.

Progressivism, otherwise known as Marxism: Based on theft, Enabled by tyranny, Enforced by Murder. And you call this "modern".

Purpleguy| 4.8.10 @ 2:48PM

Tsk, tsk ... Go learn something ... "In the United States, the term progressivism emerged in the late 19th century into the 20th century in reference to a more general response to the vast changes brought by industrialization: an alternative to both the traditional conservative response to social and economic issues and to the various more radical streams of socialism and anarchism which opposed them." It's not Marxism or Socialism ... not that you care.

Jamie| 4.8.10 @ 3:41PM

Liar. "Progressive' was coined when
"Communist" became toxic. You're all the same wanton killers. You killed hundreds of millions during the 20th century--are Americans next on your murderous list?

DEMOCRAT=LIB=PROGRESSIVE=COMMIE.

Purpleguy| 4.9.10 @ 7:54PM

You're just stupid and rude ... no loss there.

the Shrike| 4.8.10 @ 3:50PM

"Nothing wrong with progressivism" ???

Wow...Lagiusmeatius must smoke too much CRACKimus to confuse compassion with the progressive agenda.

Progressivism is nothing less than the (seemingly well intentioned) paved road to hell/death...

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 10:27PM

"Progressivism" is an euphemism for Communism. Nothing more and nothing LESS.

Karen| 4.8.10 @ 11:08AM

Yeppers...... I'm a Texas Tea Partier and Cornyn is in serious trouble down here. We've had our eye on him and his to and fro shenanigans for quite some time.

MTB| 4.8.10 @ 11:41AM

I like your way of thinking. Even if we don't succeed 100%, we will definitely be much better off than we are right now.

As for the judges, paraphrasing Coburn's latest remarks about how nice Pelosi is: "But they're nice people. Have you ever met them? No. They're nice people." Like the child predator releasing judges, we don't give a rat's behind how nice they are or may be, we only care how they do their jobs. Nancy can be just as nice living out her retirement in California, but she does NOT belong in elected office--she, like the judges you mention, is too dangerous.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 9:42PM

The income tax amendment is not even legal. It never received the 3/4 majority of the states or people to ratify it. The commiecrats at the time "deemed" it passed through trickery and deceit.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 10:28PM

This post was suppose to go somewhere else.

XXPAT| 4.9.10 @ 10:10PM

You said it! Not just Obama care but the whole progressive agenda. That's what I want and it heartens me to see someone actually say it.

It's like a football game where the libs have unlimited downs.
I have had the feeling for years that conservatives cheer when liberal agenda items are sacked and cry when they pass but that it's never conservatives moving the ball the other way. Just stopping it or not on stopping it on any given play. It would be great to see the conservatives get the ball and actually do something with it.
7070 sounds great. I hope it doesn't take till 7070

Pingback| 4.8.10 @ 7:59AM

Republicans against repeal? « PoliticallyEmpowered.com links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…like the bill because it gets their employees off of their insurance plan. That’s just speculation, but when will the GOP stand up for what’s right? Read it all here: http://spectator.org/archives/2010/04/08/republicans-against-repeal // Posted in Elections & Voting, General/Current Events, Republicans, Social Programs | Tags: "Repeal and Replace", Bob Corker, health care, John Cornyn, Mark Kirk,…

Curly Smith| 4.8.10 @ 7:59AM

I don't know how this can surprise anyone. The GOP is like a corporation... unless you change the senior management then nothing in the corporation changes. We can vote for all of the Conservatives that we want but the alleged minority of RINOs can stop any Conservative Agenda unless the Leadership reins them in. And I say "alleged minority" because it's not clear that they're not, in fact, the majority.

The GOP builds a case for a 3rd Party every day. I've heard the mantra "the Dems win if we vote for a 3rd Party" but the Dems also win if we waste a vote for the current GOP. The GOP is deathly afraid of the Tea Partiers, they're deathly afraid that we'll form the dreaded 3rd Party and cost the GOP their power... and we will if the GOP keeps demonstrating its antipathy toward Conservative values and principles.

Keep the pressure on, bring your kettles to a boil.

Melvin| 4.8.10 @ 8:21AM

I post last week, and some this week that the Republicans actually supported a form of mandated health care ala Mitt when he was governor.
The RNC and the Republican Leadership gave a quiet nod to the Massachusetts Governor as a test bed for mandated health care.
The Republican Party Leadership has just as much a vested interest in Demcare as the Democrats.
The Republican Party Leadership would rather tweak than repeal.
Mark my words if this is the case the Democrats will let the Republicans nibble on the periphery and they will beat it into the minds of the Republicans every day for the rest of their political lives. "Sure we'll let ya make a tiny insignificant change here and there, but always remember Republican. This Health Care is ours and we will remind you every chance we get. Now get back on your side of the isle bitch."

Loadmaster| 4.8.10 @ 8:27AM

Ed Bryant should have beating Corker. Corker's money got him that election but it wouldn't get him his next. Both Senators from TN will not be re-elected. Bob and Lamar need to go. The TPN, 9-12 Project, TN Patriotics Group see these guys as typical RINO's.

Ryan| 4.8.10 @ 8:36AM

First and foremost, I am for and will always support repealing the Obamacare travesty, and will fully support any congressman and senator who does so.

That being said, I don't believe that we'll be able to muster up enough veto-proof votes to completely repeal it. I think, in the end, we will be replacing and reforming the worst parts and we'll have to live with others for some time, until we can get a Senate majority in 2012 (which I think is more likely than in 2010) with a greater possibility of a Conservative President who will sign a full repeal and replace.

This CANNOT be a two-year plan - it HAS to be a 4-6 year plan for replacing and repealing.

GregA| 4.8.10 @ 8:37AM

Perhaps it is time to make the Republicans of 2010 like the Whigs of 1856.

Heatpacker| 4.8.10 @ 8:56AM

What a fool Cornyn is! Is he so insulated in D. C. that he doesn't know how mad the majority of Americans is? How did someone so pusillanimous, so lacking in political perspicacity reach such heights?
The main problem that the Republican Party created for itself over the last eight years was its drift to the left. It became a big government party, just like the Democrats, which naturally led many voters to conclude that no difference existed between the two parties. And now here is Cornyn, reinforcing this destructive conception. Such behavior represents a special kind of stupid.
Has Sen. Cornyn forgotten that McCain was up slightly in the polls before he came out in favor of the Wall Street bailout?
The Democrat Congress has a unfavorable rating of about 90%! Sen. Cornyn, why are you not doing everything in your power to distinguish Republicans from the Euro-style Social Democrats who run Washington? To position Republicans as the we-agree-with-liberals-but-want-to-spend-less party is suicidal. Get out of D. C. and get a grip on reality!

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 9:47PM

I think Cornyn felt bad about the sorry position the commiecrats were in and wanted to be fair about it and help them climb outta the hole.

Irene W| 4.8.10 @ 9:02AM

M Steel and J McCain just have to go in exchange of real conservatives and backbone

Pingback| 4.8.10 @ 9:31AM

Both parties have one foot in the grave links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…simply be the saucer that cools the Tea Party. Cooler heads will have prevailed -- and so will have liberalism. W. James Antle, III is associate editor of The American Spectator. http://spectator.org/archives/2010/0...against-repeal Flanders The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a…

james wilson| 4.8.10 @ 9:32AM

T. S. ELIOT
Conservatism is too often the conservation of the wrong thing.

AMBROSE BIERCE
Conservative, n.: A statesmen who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the liberal, who wants to replace them with others.

G. K. CHESTERTON
The whole modern world had divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected. Even when the revolutionist might himself repent of his revolution, the traditionalist is defending it as part of his tradition.

PATRICK J DENEEN
Because conservatism defines itself relative to the current position of its more liberal opponent, it has come occupy space that has been abandoned by a leftward-moving opposition.

MENCIUS MOLDBURG
A conservative is someone who helps disguise the true nature of a democratic state. The conservative is ineffective because his goal is to make democracy work properly. The fact that it does not work properly sails right over his head; he therefore labors cheerfully as a tool for his enemies.

G K CHESTERTON
When a politician is in opposition he is an expert on the means to some end; and when he is in office he is an expert on the obstacles to it.

FREDERICH VON HAYEK
It is merely a question of time until the views held by intellectuals become the governing force in politics.

Ken (Old Texican)| 4.8.10 @ 11:00AM

James,
see my reply...heh now well below.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 9:48PM

Libertarian drivel.

Cris Worth| 4.8.10 @ 9:42AM

You forgot to mention Romney who gave us the blue print of ObamaCare is the prohibitive favorite to win the GOP nomination. Twilight has come for the Republican Party and the nation. Maybe we can sift through the ashes and build a new nation.

megapotamus | 4.8.10 @ 11:03AM

Romney is poison. Romney is toxic. Romney is the the leading example of faux Conservatives like Bob Dole who proclaim principles during campaigns that they ignore and revile once safely in office and the cameras are rolling. Romney is nothing but an opportunist. He will as eagerly impose Cap and Trade as oppose it; likewise amnesty, finance "reform"... really anything you could name, including abortion and of course, socialized medicine. On this he is uniquely marked. Romneycare is a disaster, the only reason it is plausibly less unConstitutional than Ocare is that it takes place at the state level. It is no less ruinous of the medical profession. It is no more just in its inflictions. And this is Romney's baby. This nauseating figure must be kept from ANY position of prominence in the Republican party as a first demonstration of seriousness. Give no money to the RNC; let them starve. No money to Romney or anyone Romney campaigns for. Romney should be tarred, feathered and dumped in international waters but we will settle for an early retirement that comes none too soon. Romney is RADIOACTIVE! If you oppose Ocare or Leftism generally YOU MUST OPPOSE ROMNEY! NEVER vote for Romney or give him a penny. He must be shunned like a pervert, for politically speaking that is what he is. No Romney, no how, no WAY. Not ever.

Jamie| 4.8.10 @ 3:43PM

Right on, Mega! NO ROMNEY EVER!

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 9:51PM

I still remember Dole, who was a lifelong liberal republican, trying to reinvent himself as a conservative. Embarrassing.

Kevin| 4.8.10 @ 9:48AM

It's important to remember that much of the hype against health care reform is exactly that, hype. Which was generated by an powerful industry which wanted to operate in a lawless enviornment. Having a health care system that still has fewer regulations than the rest of the developed world is not communism, socialism nor going to bankrupt anyone.

What these Republican lawmakers are saying is, we tried our hardest to spin this thing the best we could, we lost the fight, now it's time to forget the spin and accept the scare tactics we used were only that. Grow up, this is politics, what we say isn't real. We have to move on to the next's special interest's needs so save your easily manipulated rage for our next campaign contributor's interest. There's plenty more industries the Democrats are going to want to regulate. Banking! Wall Street! Oil! They'll need protection from laws that protect the public.

Michael Adams| 4.8.10 @ 11:14AM

Kevin, and all the other Democrat operatives attempting to hijack this site: We READ the bills. Sarah Palin gave the name death panels to the variously styled panels or boards of experts, but they were in there. "Powerful interests" like big corporations who had negotiated impossible burdens on themselves in health insurance for employees and retirees, favored the bill, and put money where their mouths were. "Powerful interests" like insurance companies supported the bill, which will put them into the position of utilities, passing on costs to policy holders, with their profits guaranteed by the government. This debacle out to be a teachable moment for those whose minds are still held captive by the socialist paradigm. It is broken; its shards litter the ground whereon we walk. The whole silly notion of powerful corporate interests who rape the little guy, deterred only by the noble efforts of "Progressive" politicians is falling apart around us. It was never true, and now it is exposed. Remember all those evil capitalists who so exploited American workers? In the nineteenth century, when this meme was born, a majority of Americans were farmers, not industrial workers. People chose to leave the farms for the factories, for economic reasons. Conversely, if European immigrants did not like factory life, they struck out for the Midwest or for California. People were not as educated, especially in economics, a hundred and fifty years ago. We do not have to continue in ignorance. Useful factoid: Nearly two thirds of health insurance policies are written by non-profit corporations. Plausible supposition: If insurance became insurance again, paying for health care costs above a deductible that would rise as one's Health Saving account rose, we'd begin to see a gradual decline in health care costs. It you are concerned about people like me, uninsurable because of pre-existing conditions, establish an assigned risk pool, like what most states have for auto insurance. However, eighty five percent of Americans were satidfied with our health care, and now the Democrats have put us o0n a path to destroy what we had.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 9:53PM

Kevin, communist rhetoric will get you nowhere here, the people here are too informed.

CJN Guy| 4.8.10 @ 9:52AM

This is just another symptom of how the disease known as Progressivism continues to eat away at our political system. It has already destroyed the Democratic party, and is beginning to rot the core of the Republican party. America, this war is not about party, it's about principles. The two sides do not begin with an "R" or a "D"; this is a fight between Progressive and Conservative values. The progressives within the Republican party are beginning to show themselves more clearly, as I believe they think they have cover in the current environment. The important thing for those of us within the Conservative camp to do is to take note, and take names. Starting this November, we need to work to eliminate Progressives throughout our government, both sides. I'm ready - are you?

poptoy| 4.8.10 @ 10:06AM

TEA PARTY here we come.

levotb| 4.8.10 @ 10:06AM

The RINO Senators not up for re-election this g0-round like Snowe and the other liberal Collins are thanking their lucky stars because they'd be out on their keisters.

CJN Guy| 4.8.10 @ 10:17AM

As one of the unfortunate citizens who is "served" by Snowe and Collins, I have to tell you I'm not sure that they would be cast aside. Maine is a progressive state, and our Republican party is at best "moderate."

The RINOs up for re-election this year are John McCain of Arizona, Bob Bennett of Utah and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska (based on ACU voting records). Senator Murkowski is probably safe, but the other two are in for a primary fight (as we've already seen). We can't get rid of all of them now, but we can begin the process of righting the ship by removing these folks from office.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 10:31PM

If the people of Maine had any sense, they'd be out whenever their turn comes up.

Matt Morehouse| 4.8.10 @ 10:09AM

Repeal and replace---with NOTHING.

Jon B| 4.8.10 @ 10:10AM

Cooler heads prevail in the GOP? This is welcome news. It's too bad that it took them 16 years to figure it out.

Roxanna| 4.8.10 @ 10:11AM

This bill must be repealed or America will collapse. Every country that has socialized medicine, and this bill is the first step in that direction regardless of what anybody says, has serious economic problems because of it. Already in America, the health care field kills nearly 4,000 people a week. and it's only going to get worse. In a decade or so, our taxes are going to be pouring into a system that does nothing for us except put us further in debt.

canuckistani| 4.8.10 @ 10:18AM

"Every country that has socialized medicine, and this bill is the first step in that direction regardless of what anybody says, has serious economic problems because of it."

Here's our messaging problem: that simply is not true. Canada spends 10% of GDP on HC and we spend 17%. They live longer, have lower disease stats, recover as quickly as us and incidents of hypertension, diabetes and other chronic diseases are lower.
How do you justify paying 70% more for this outcome? I agree exotic surgeries are better here, but the 99% of people obtaining services are simply paying too much.
Every single poll globally asking for views on the governemnt run system versus an alternative, the vast majority prefer to keep it and fix it, not dismantle it. Is the rest of the world stupid or are we missing something?

Jeremiah| 4.8.10 @ 11:00AM

You idiot, what are you just spouting DNC talking points? Canada rations care relentlessly - and many people die waiting for the tests that, in the U.S would have saved them...so they are considered natural deaths, not hospital losses. Why in hell do you think the Prime Minister of Newfoundland came here to get his surgery? Because in the current U.S. system he was likely to live. In his own Canada, he would have died waiting - and not have been properly counted among statistics because he would have died before helath care was available.

Let's take a look at premei babies. In most countries, they don't even try to save them - so they are not counted for life expectancy stats nor for failures in the helath care system. In the U.S. we work heroically to save them - and count the failures when we don't succeed. The nationalized health care systems in place are like a kid who plays outfield in Little League and has no errors - because he never, ever tries to make a tough play.

You idiot Marxists talk about wanting 'equality', but all yoou ever give when you assume power is a grinding misery shared by all (except top party apartchiks) . An equality that is more miserable and desperate than the situation of the worst of the worst in a free society is not to be aspired to - and with no hope of ever changing your situation.

canuckistani| 4.8.10 @ 11:11AM

Me an idiot marxist? How do get that from my writing?
As conservatives, we should be trying to find the best route around problems. We spend 70% more of our considerable wealth on HC with only marginally better outcomes. Full stop. The press-whipped stories of politicians and extreme cases coming here for surgery are RARE, and in your words: "they are not counted " in statistcal models.
We have single payer for seniors. Why? Explain.
We have single payer for government workers. Why? Explain. We have single payer for veterans. Why? Explain. If it's good enough for seniors, vets and government, what are we missing?
I don't think it's the answer, but the divide between rich and poor is getting wider, and you better have a solution, and it won't be solved with a trip along nostalgia lane - it never existed.

TJ| 4.8.10 @ 11:50AM

We also "ration" care. People here also die while waiting for tests or access to need procedures. Or worse will never even qualify since they didn't have access to health insurance. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. It is simple economics, we pay more and get less. And those number come not from the DNC, they are numbers from the OECD.

The only countries in the OECD that do not have universal healthcare are US, Mexico, and Turkey. Both those other two countries are working on it. Also please learn the difference between socialized/nationalized medicine and universal health care. They are not the same thing. Having a regulation does not equal socialism. We have forprofit insurance companies providing the lionshare of the health care not the government. The commerce clause gives them the power to regulate industry even if you may want more government restraint.

Also we are the only country among our major competitors where businesses must count health care as a cost of doing business. Complain all you want but the current system actually makes our businesses less competitive internationally according to several studies.

All these complaints will do nothing to fix a broken system. Republicans never made addressing a priority and when they had a chance to offer viable counter offers and real solutions for the public and US businesses they blew it by crying socialism when they should have been hammering home other market-oriented approaches. In fact insurance itself is a form of mini-socialism in capitalist clothes. In our current system, what you get is employers that do essentially what the government is now doing, requiring you to buy insurance that you may not want. If you are sick you economic benefit from having that insurance is greater than if you are healthy. This is how socialism works too.

I don't like complainers I want results. This is a sorry thanks for playing moment for conservatives. They gambled on rhetoric over real solutions and loss. The result is a hot mess of health reform that is less than what it could have been if the Republicans had chosen a different path.

Jamie| 4.8.10 @ 3:45PM

Oh, screw you, stupid Marxist troll!

DEFUND OBAMACARE! STARVE THE BEAST!!

TJ| 4.8.10 @ 8:14PM

Wow name calling. Real mature. Let show how marxist I am. A better form of health care reform would have been to take away the benefits of employer-based healthcare where "unelected" HR directors make decisions for our families and let people go into the marketplace with their own money and buy private insurance on their own and make decisions about their own healthcare. Wow real socialist. They did that in the Netherlands, to the point where the actually got rid of government run health care for the elderly and the poor and gave people vouchers to buy private health insurance. So they have universal coverage in an entirely private system. Yes the government helps the poor and the sick but only through subsidies. They didn't even mandate coverage. SO you see while certain people were whining and crying socialist they
could have been out their looking for real solutions to our healthcare problems.

Also most people in this political debate on both sides are pretty disingenuous. You for instance if you couldn't pay for your care or the care of your mother or daughter would most likely happily take a government run hand out. Most people would. The Democrats claim that they are saving money but they are really spending more. Both sides are two-faced.

But worst than being two-faced is being ignorant. You should study more before you go around calling people names. I am registered independent.

Jamie| 4.9.10 @ 3:08AM

Only a moron would compare the tiny, homogenous Netherlands to our huge, hetergenous country of 300 million people.

There's no way you can accurately extrapolate their experience to ours.
Also, are you aware that HEALTHY elderly folks in the Netherlands are terrified to enter their hospitals for tests because they're afraid that their doctors will euthanize them without their knowledge or consent? Look it up, it's true. Lovely, isn't it? Just great. Who is the true IGNORANT poster here?

Keep the government out of healthcare!

You still want to emulate them? You're a Marxist if you answered yes.

Dai Alanye | 4.8.10 @ 11:14AM

It is to prevent socialized healthcare costs from bankrupting the nation that countries like Canada institute health rationing. Be assured, Americans will never accept the limitations imposed by the Canadian system unless they are sneaked in piecemeal.

The statistics quoted by Canuckistani have been manipulated and selected to prove a specious point. In fact, as the actions of individual Canadians and Canadian doctors tend to prove, the US health system is far more satisfactory, even with its higher costs. Our goal should be to control costs not totally alter a good system.

Finally, let us remember that Obamacare will by no means lower healthcare costs. Quite the contrary, we'll be paying more for a less satisfactory system. Those who say repeal will be difficult are being candid, but those who counsel keeping Obamacare are simply idiots who are resigned to pay more for poorer service.

Jim Sherlock| 4.8.10 @ 11:54AM

What canuckistani is missing is that Canada's 10 % is an ever expanding line item in their budget. In this country, 300 million Americans make their own choices on how, when, where and how much they want to spend on insurance/health care.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 10:33PM

Canada's system is an extremely good example of what we don't WANT!

canuckistani| 4.8.10 @ 10:12AM

Every major revolution has been underwritten by the elites that came to recognize change needed to be co-opted or they would lose their heads in the fog.
The fact that elites have so far not jumped on the TP bandwagon means either the table is not set or they perceive the movement as an interstitial gaseous eruption between the legs that will linger for a time but ultimately dissipate.

Me| 4.8.10 @ 10:13AM

Republicans against repeal? Then they need challengers in their primaries. I suspect many of the Senators throwing cold water on repeal are not up for election this year. They will be soon enough. Elephants never forget, you know.

NCMike| 4.8.10 @ 10:14AM

1. Write to Cornyn and Corker expressing your dissatisfaction with their cowardly stand.
2. Inform them that you will support their conservative opponent, preferably Tea Party endorsed, in the next primary.
3. Assure them you will support their opponent with Cash.
4. Send at least, $25 to the conservative opponent who champions repeal.
5. If you do nothing, you're complicit in the demise of your children's country and future.
All that is required for evil to triumph is for men of good will to do nothing.

somnolence| 4.8.10 @ 10:16AM

Go back and view movies like the original Invasion Of The Body Snatchers or The Stepford Wives. The prophecy within those films is quickly becoming reality today. All citizens the same . All of us are going to be pod people if we become even slightly complacent or passive.

NCMike| 4.8.10 @ 10:17AM

I live in NC and am not rich. I contributed $25 each to McDonnell in Va, Christie in NJ, and Brown in Massachusetts. Think about it. I've contributed the same to Rubio (FL), Hayworth (AZ), and DeVore (CA). Who needs pizza more than freedom?

CJN Guy| 4.8.10 @ 10:24AM

You make a great point. I would also add Mike Lee (UT) to the list of worthy candidates for contributions. Think about it: if 100,000 people each contributed $25, that's a $2.5 million raise.

"Success is the sum of small efforts, repeated day in and day out." - Robert Collier

sandyinohio| 4.8.10 @ 1:38PM

Bravo! I AM relatively rich (millionaire) and I contribute to many out of state contests also, usually $50, because I want our country to be here and still FREE for my grandchildren and yours. I sent money to a nephew in Charlotte to help with the TEA Party expenses there. THIS is MY charity of preference folks. Give whatever you can and then WRITE to those offending politicians and let them know about it! Feels so good.

Paul Strauss | 4.8.10 @ 10:20AM

This is complete and utter bullhockeypucks. I've been leaning AWAY from the GOP and towards 3rd Party / libertarian candidates for a long time.

I realize of course that 3rd Party has long been a Democrat divide and conquer strategy to split principled voters-- but if we're going let the country be destroyed- I'd rather the REAL Democrats just do it-- FULL SPEED AHEAD!

The GOP had better not pussy out on this. Otherwise they can go **** themsevles. I will NOT support a candidate or a Party where REPEAL is not a PLATFORM-WIDE, UNIFIED OBJECTIVE.

Lucinda| 4.8.10 @ 3:47PM

NO THIRD PARTY! Strengthen the republican party--it's the only way.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 10:42PM

That's right Lucinda. There are many democrap operatives who ply these conservative blogs trying to push people towards a 3rd party.

JP| 4.8.10 @ 10:26AM

Cornyn from Texas; Corker and Alexander from Tennesse; Lugar from Indiana; Gramm from South Carolina. See the pattern here? States with a very conservative base continue to elect Senators far to thier Left. For every Specter or Chaffe that leaves or retires, there's always another one to take his place - and many times they come from conservative states.

And yet we continue to vote them in.

Scott| 4.8.10 @ 10:34AM

Lugar is now a leftie?? That's news to me. And in case you missed 2008, Obama actually won Indiana.

Heatpacker| 4.8.10 @ 11:16AM

Obama won Indiana by a very small margin. Considering the fact that Mitch Daniels was re-elected by a very wide margin, I think that Obama's popularity here, which started out being an inch deep, has since evaporated, except in the big-city mud puddles.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 10:45PM

Uh-huh, Lugar's a lefty...as is Nebraska's Chucky Hagel.

7d7| 4.8.10 @ 10:27AM

The aforementioned Republicans may believe they lack Senatorial and Congressional votes, but in reality what they lack are will and fortitude. The battle is not for the faint-hearted, and American voters need to turn out those who lack the stomach for the battle.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 10:46PM

Amen, and Amen!!

FR Baynative| 4.8.10 @ 10:32AM

" The Republican Party will simply be the saucer that cools the Tea Party. Cooler heads will have prevailed -- and so will have liberalism. "

NOT IF I HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT!

Any republican who will not pledge to work for repeal of this Marxist horror doesn't deserve support. We must select and support specific candidates who stand on courage and conviction.

If this is the climate we face, it is not wise to send money to the RNC.

Scott| 4.8.10 @ 10:35AM

Marxist horror? Really, you have no clue what Marxism even means.

Jeremiah| 4.8.10 @ 11:14AM

Listen, you dumbass, Scott...why don't you give the explanation of what Marxism is? You lefties always offer non-sequitur questions like that, insinuating that the person you're insulting is stupid. But you never give your definition of it. The reason is simple, because wither you are unfamiliar with the principles espoused by Marx and Engels or because you do know - and to define it would be to prove your antagonist right.

I listened to Obama complain at his health care 'summit' with Republicans that they were treating his health care plan as some sort of Bolshevik plot. I wondered why none of the Republicans responded that that was true - because it is akin to a Bolshevik plot. I wondered whether any of the Republicans in attendance were familiar with the history of the Bolsheviks - or even of the basic writings such as Das Kapital or the Communist Manifesto by Marx and Engels. With little variation, this is exactly the template the left (and more than a few idiot Republicans) are following.

All you clown pseudo-intellectuals can't win on substance and so do a little sneer, without any supporting fact, to try to malign your opponent. But the folksies are getting wise to you and figuring out that your intellectual pretensions are just that - pretensions. If you want to survive you are going to have to start actually studying instead of parroting quotes from the cover of the Cliff's Notes you use to pretend to be smart. Of course, actually studying may not work for you, either. If you do it, you are liable to figure out what an ill-informed yutz you actually are and shut up.

Grzmlyk| 4.8.10 @ 11:31AM

Hey useless idiot #49,994368 (that would be YOU, Comrade Scott):

Let's see if we can make this easy: More government control of our society (and I include the economy) is a move TOWARD Marxism. Less government control of our society is a move away from Marxism TOWARD individualism, which is supported by CAPITALISM, which is the antitheseis of MARXISM.

Hence Marx/Engels tome, "Das Kapital."

Is that clear enough, or do you need a picture book too?

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 10:57PM

Jeremiah you really nailed it. To put it succintly, marxism is: socialism, redistribution of wealth, and class welfare/class envy. This describes the commiecrats to a tee. In his interview with state radio (NPR) in Chicago, Obumbo clearly said, after disparaging the Founding Fathers, and dismissing the Constitution as a collection of 'negative rights', that the Constitution didn't have enough redistributive qualities. As you may or may not know, depending on if you get your news from reliable sources or democrap run media (propaganda), he told Joe the Plumber, that we needed to redistribute the wealth. Confiscate the earnings of the achievers and redistribute the monies thus stolen, to the unachievers.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 10:59PM

succinctly even

Clifford Wiesner| 4.8.10 @ 10:32AM

Many of you are sounding like our current bunch of politicians, spouting onlywhat YOU want, ignoring the polls, letters to the editor, surveys, focus groups, etc. The people want healthcare reform. Not as set forth in this bill. However, it is a starting point. The Republicans need to take control of congress, tear the bill apart, fund those parts that are good, refuse to fund, delete or rework those that are not. Do something positive to demonstrate that we are not just " nay sayers".

Pass this on to your candidates and let's get on with this.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 11:01PM

The government has no authority where healthcare is concerned. Healthcare is the reponsibility and sole concern of individual citizens.

Kenneth E. MacAlister Jr.| 4.8.10 @ 10:35AM

This comes as no surprise to me & just reinforces the FACT that there is no difference between the Leftocrats & Republicants. They can ALL go to hell. The ONLY people who are going to reverse the course this nation is currently on are the ordinary hard-working American citizens & ONLY if they ask for the help & direction of Almighty GOD. Politicians are nothing but Satan's play toys. I am not advocating violence or overthrowing the idiots in the District of Criminals. I am advocating putting our collective faith in Almighty GOD to overcome our current plight. Depend on GOD, not politicians. It has worked for the Israelites since the beginning of time so why not the American people too? Remember, with GOD everything is possible. With politicians the only thing that can be counted on is enslavement & contempt for the same people they are supposed to serve. Also, GOD NEVER breaks His promises, doesn't have to run for re-election, & isn't term limited. He is THE ONLY WAY to straighten out the current mess called the United States of America. Think about it folks.

Scott| 4.8.10 @ 10:37AM

Screw you. I'm a fiscal conservative atheist. I don't need you telling me to put my faith in your make-believe savior.

drawlr| 4.8.10 @ 10:48AM

Not very tolerant are we?

Lucinda| 4.8.10 @ 3:49PM

Downright nasty if you ask me. Scotty's got his tights in a twist again.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 11:03PM

Lucinda, would you expect any less from an atheist??

canuckistani| 4.8.10 @ 10:47AM

"It has worked for the Israelites since the beginning of time so why not the American people too?"
What, you mean wandering in the desert for 2000 years and nearly being exterminated? God has a funny way of supporting his chosen people.....
I choose to follow God, just not any of his mortal frontmen. These are man-made problems and need man-made answers.

Grzmlyk| 4.8.10 @ 10:36AM

So depressing.

Our system of government is a failure. Republicans are just as bad as Dems, the goddamned traitors.

And guess what? If we throw the bums out and put in Tea Party candidates, within ONE MONTH they'll be indistinguishable from the bums they replaced. The mother's milk of politics is money, money is power and everybody wants to stay in power. And power corrupts absolutely.

The ONLY way this is going to stop is after the goose that laid the golden egg is dead and the well finally runs dry. Thatcher said that eventually you run out of other people's money. At this point, I'm saying, the sooner the better.

When the Chinese and Japanese and other holders of US debt finally turn the spigot off and we can no longer print worthless dollars to forestall the inevitable, and the goose flatlines, at least the hand-over-fist graft and bribery and insanity will stop.

We got the government we deserve as a country (notwithstanding the many of the reliable souls on this site). When we became an entitlement-oriented welfare state comprised solely of victim groups claiming their fair share, we jumped out of the 80th floor window. Now we are zipping past the 50th floor, and even our "conservative" politicians are saying, "so far, so good!" And the concrete below looms larger and larger, and no one at the controls gives a good god damn.

But every wealthy society eventually chokes off the engine of prosperity. We've just accomplished it more efficiently than most.

The 20th century was America's century. The 21st is China's. We had better hope we please them enough so they keep us around.

canuckistani| 4.8.10 @ 10:41AM

Agreed. Well put.

Grzmlyk| 4.8.10 @ 10:57AM

Thanks (I think).

I've stuck with the GOP throughout our very troubled "marriage" because I thought it could be reformed. I still think a third party is forever hypothetical in its ability to save us.

I hereby renounce my membership now and forever more.

Besides, when society breaks down completely - which should happen in just a few years - we won't be concerned with such esoteric abstractions as party affiliation; we'll be foraging for food and trying to stay one step ahead of invading barbarians, whomever they may be.

But I guess it doesn't matter to me too much if my head winds up on a Chinese pike or a Muslim Pike or just some random looter's pike.

The fat lady is singing.

canuckistani| 4.8.10 @ 11:37AM

My appreciation is sincere.
I prefer to consider the possible versus the fanstastic utopia people here write about that will never happen unless the majority of Americans get some kind of epiphany.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 11:07PM

Probably why guns are flying off the shelves. LOL...ironically, it seems the only industry that Obumbo has helped is the firearms industry.

Rodney L| 4.8.10 @ 11:59AM

Well spoken.
What about a national database showing what politicians have actually produced something useful so there is total transparency in the process.
The founding fathers didnt have access to our levels of technology which is where things like the electoral college, etc.

We are talking about replacing leadership .

For those who have longer than a 5 minute attention span remember what Sarah Palin actually did when in office.
She and her staff used private emails to cover up their scams so they wouldn't be in searchable public recordslater, being regularly were in the middle of scandals because of illegally using the office to attack anybody who exposed the truth about what she was up to.
(Like any politician she regularly dipped into the public cookie jar for private handouts for her family and close friends then campaigned about somebody else's corruption).
She cried conservative but her husband was a current sessionist with Oil ties, while the household was a dysfunctional national embarrassment.
When the chickens of her actions came to roost long enough that even in ALASKA it reached national notice she quit office in the middle of her term and ran south because the mirror of public shame was too much to bear.
She is regularly the laughing stock of the media because she can't see the hypocrisy between her actions and hype.
Incompetence as a way of life as you move up the ladder of attention is not an example our children should see.
That crazy mess with her show on FOX using interviews that OTHER people gave and passing them off as hers is elegant proof she STILL doesnt get it !
That is NOT the stable kind of leadership or voice we need in the GOP or the Tea Party.
Male or female we need leaders who will have the backbone to do the RIGHT thing that benefits ALL Americans instead of their social political circle.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 11:10PM

You spend wayyyy too much time on the commiecrat blogs.

John C| 4.8.10 @ 10:40AM

It seems that the GOP has been castrated. How can it condone all the unconstitutional activity by OHB and is senate and house cronies ? To allow Health Care to live on is a travesty. It will or already has, bankrupt us and put us in the back seat of the world limo instad of

Jon B| 4.8.10 @ 11:37AM

The GOP sold out the Constitution over 10 years ago, and never quit. Why would they stop now?

Jon B Obama's Butt Boy!| 4.9.10 @ 3:11AM

Get over it, loser! W outsmarted you ACORN election stealing bastards in 2000.

Eddie| 4.8.10 @ 10:42AM

This is why I stopped giving money to the Reps!

arizona glass | 4.8.10 @ 10:42AM

The problem with all politicians - they stand and fight only as long as it does not imperil their reelection chances. Every politician wants reelected. They will stand and fight as long as the politicial winds are at their backs. We need to elect people who are not elected to get reelected. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Willy| 4.8.10 @ 10:45AM

Quote: " Texas and Tennessee GOP need a Tea Party."

There IS a Tea Party in Texas. Well and strong. Cornyn is in trouble!

drawlr| 4.8.10 @ 10:45AM

This law is a redistribution of wealth (as are many of our laws, including income tax) and is, by definition, socialism. It needs to be repealed.

A vote for anyone but Ron Paul, or his clone, is a wasted vote. Vote in anyone else and nothing will change. Even if Ron Paul were voted in and had an adversarial Congress, there is still a lot he could do as the President to help the country. See his article about it at http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul647.html.

USAF Vet Dan| 4.8.10 @ 8:09PM

Thank you!!!

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 11:12PM

A vote for Ron Paul is insanity. He's a first class certifiable NUT!

ruthe| 4.8.10 @ 10:46AM

Faith, Hope, and Charity....it all comes down to caring but being strong and having a strong work ethic. The day I speak to an audience and see young people there instead of mostly seniors (those who understand history as it truly is) then I will have faith that our country can do the right things again. Educate your children and hope they lead the future in the right direction again.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 11:15PM

Get them out of the propagandist's hands, homeschool your children.

Larry Chapman| 4.8.10 @ 10:50AM

I know I can always depend on the fat cats in the Republican Party to "wimp" out. I am re-reading
Mussolini on Fascism to get a little sense of balance.

LizzieBee| 4.8.10 @ 10:50AM

The Republicans are simply as corrupt as the Dems and a lot of us have known that for some time. If this article is true, and the Republicans are backing off from the R&R option, then they are finished as a national party. I would rather see the Dems win another round and hope that a third party will rise to replace the GOP.

The nonsense that we cannot undo the monstrosity of Obamacare is a cowardly and lazy outlook. What man does, man can undo. Period.

ChuckD| 4.8.10 @ 10:52AM

We need an alternative idea to Obamacare. Everyone send in their health care reform ideas and complie them for Congress to see. The people will live with, suffer under and pay for the reform so why not let them write the proposal, gvoernment of, by and for the people. I want may ideas to be considered. How about all you other "smart" "educated" , "concerned" citizens, show the Democrats we know what is happening and have another idea about "health care reform."

nova9047| 4.8.10 @ 10:53AM

Did you hear the one about the long time Dem congressman who began his retirement announcement with, "During my brief 17 terms..."? Step One is to evict the seemingly permanent liberal super-majority that rammed this abomination down our throats. Step Two
will be to elect a President who is American by more than a scrap of paper. Step Three will be to cauterize the wound (stop the bleeding) by amending the health care law to require it to pay for itself (as if!). Step Four will be to walk away and watch socialized medicine die from natural causes. Voila!

Don Meaker| 4.8.10 @ 11:11AM

Mathmatically impossible? Every single member of the house is up for election.

Need to do some work on your maths.

Drew | 4.8.10 @ 10:53AM

Republicans against repeal? Finally some solid evidence that the GOP hasn't been completely taken over by wingnuts and ignoramuses.

There are several things going on here:

One) From a purely practical standpoint, it is mathematically impossible for Republicans to capture enough House and Senate seats to establish a veto-proof majority in Congress. Meaning that - at "best" (depending on your outlook) the earliest that "repeal" could take place would be sometime in 2013. Running on a platform that promises a repeal that is certain to fail doesn't seem like a very smart strategy.

Two) Cooler heads in the GOP are smart enough to recognize that, once some of the benefits of HCR start becoming clear to their constituents, its going to be a lot harder to make Repeal a winning platform. Vote to ALLOW insurance companies to use recission? Or deny coverage for pre-existing conditions? Vote to do away with tax credits for small businesses? Then there is the issue of non-existent negatives: Its hard to repeal "Death Panels" that don't exist.

Three) Sticking their heads outside the echo chamber. If you only get your news and opinion from Fox; conservative talk radio; and the right-wing blogosphere - you are likely to end up with a very warped view of the mood of the American electorate. To say that there is "overwhelming" opposition to HCR is absolutely false. At best most polls show a roughly 50-50 split on approval of the recently passed bill. And, to be honest, a good percentage of those who don't like it - don't like it because they think it should have been more liberal.

Promising to repeal might win you a few minutes of fame and glory on Fox News during a slow April news day. But its unlikely to be a long-term winning strategy for the GOP. And all this talk about purging the "RINOs" is simply a way for the GOP - the party of Reagan and Rockefeller; Goldwater and Buckley - to paint itself into a very small, dark, and unpleasant corner.

Michael Adams| 4.8.10 @ 3:33PM

I am not generally considered a wingnut. I am a recovering Democrat, and I did not stop voting that way because I fell on my head or went of my meds. Rather, I have lived a while, observed the world, and remember what I see and hear. As a nurse, I deal with government health care already, Medicaid and Medicare. In home care, we help our patients not only with their physical needs but also with their navigation through the shoals of government health bureaucracy. I fail to understand how bureaucracy can be enhanced by uniting all the cumbersome bureaucracies into one will make them more responsive or efficient. The weak response to that is that Obamacare does not create such a unified bureaucracy. It is, however, a sad fact that Franks and Obama, and others too numerous to remember, have said that such an incremental approach may be necessary, if they are eventually to create such a super-bureaucracy.
I have a further comment, down the thread, about problems far beyond bureaucracy that will afflict us with government medicine.

Michael Adams| 4.8.10 @ 3:36PM

on line #9, add "or" between one and will. Sorry.

Lucinda| 4.8.10 @ 3:51PM

Drew's a troll. Crawl back under the rock you call home, moron.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 11:20PM

Thank you Drew, you have proved that you don't have a clue what is actually in the bill.

Ken (Old Texican)| 4.8.10 @ 10:57AM

James,

PRESIDENT SAM HOUSTON

Conserve what? The only reason the proud Republic of Texas can honorably join the Union of States is their compact and their constitution that guarantees that compact.

Ladies and gentlemen,
We have a whale of a lot more population density than in the days of Madison and Jefferson....or Houston. We are a much more specialized, interdependent group these days and adjustments have...and of course need...to reflect that.

In the west especially, in the mid 1800s many of our ancestors barely interfaced with folks outside their own county of residence.
Fine.
The war between the States changed that forever.
Nevertheless, when we try to tweak the compact or the constitution, we must not forget that the constitution AND the compact themselves should not be "worshipped" in and of themselves.

They were simply a truly brilliant effort, at enumerating and securing GOD given rights and personal liberty to each of us. In a very real sense, then, the documents in my mind truly were a gift of GOD, to mankind.
The other GOD given gift, were the framers themselves. Has there ever been a more noble and selfless group of humble men in history?

Instead of stacking the deck for their own aggrandizement, they simply transmitted the gifts to each of us.
("Sir, we have given you a republic, if you can keep it.")

Some of the "Libertarians" among us long to get back to simpler times. Heck, I feel that way often myself.
But,
With the growth of our power as a nation, we in my mind have been given an equal RESPONSIBILITY.
("To whom much is given, much is required".)

The power we were given as a nation through the compact and the constitution sorta' made us the final arbiter on earth for liberty and justice .....coincidentally?

Now,
however, we have awakened to the reality that we must ...again...put our own house in order as a nation, and as individual "sovereign" citizens.

Many of us have forgotten, (and some of us never knew), that the "social compact" in fuedal times was essentially this:
"I will take the responsibility for beating off the barbarians with my own sword, and with my own blood...you may call me your sovereign.

Your responsibility is to grow the crops and husband the flocks so that I might practice protecting you."

Ladies and gentlemen, I suggest to each of you that our "sovereignty" requires the willingness to do battle with the barbarians... if it brings bankruptcy, the blood, or death if necessary.

Are we worthy of our sovereignty?

james wilson| 4.8.10 @ 11:44AM

This column received so great a response for a reason, and the reason is that those people left who actually value liberty, and know both what it means and what it requires, are especially alarmed at the moles within the conservative party. I heard the same alarm expressed by Mark Levin yesterday, and he is the steadiest and most ordered of men. We sense, and fear, that this may not go well, but also that it must go.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 11:23PM

YES, it must go...

Rodney L| 4.8.10 @ 12:08PM

This was EXCELLENT!
I would add that the founding fathers firmly kept GOD in mind.
When did it become fashionable for atheists to hijack so much power?

RAMIII| 4.8.10 @ 1:45PM

What is the difference between the Republican "Leadership" in Washington DC and Tiger Woods? . . .

Nothing.

The Republicans have been in bed with the Democrats for years and it shows when issues like this rise to the surface.

Isaiah 1:5b-6a
The whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint. From the sole of the foot even to the head there is no soundness.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 11:26PM

Ah go screw yourself RAMIII!

Margie| 4.8.10 @ 3:55PM

Beautifully written, Ken. Thank you so much. Every time I read what you write these days it produces a thankfulness inside of me. I wish everyone would regard what you say like I do, in that what you say is reasoned and truthful and sensible and right.
God bless you.
And I keep being reminded by another wise man's words recently, he asked the question to those calling for a third party, or those who say they won't vote Republican because they're fed up, he asked, "Are there any Marxists in the Republican party? Any Communists? Any Socialists?" No. there's not!
We need to defeat the Democrats. I will vote Republican in order to do that.

RAMIII| 4.8.10 @ 6:23PM

Margie,

While I agree in principle with what Ken and you have written -- I believe it is the very thing that has gotten us into the current "status quo".

At one time the Republican Party was new and dynamic. Now they have proven again and again that they are unable to lead.

What you are basically admitting by writing:
"We need to defeat the Democrats. I will vote Republican in order to do that."
is that you want the train to socialism and serfdom to go just a little slower.

The Republicans had the House, the Senate and the White House. Plain and simply -- they failed, period. Why should I as a voter entrust them again so they can continue to "sleep with the enemy"?

The past 20 years of politics have replaced a solid foundation with sand and a house of cards. A true leader and really hard work (due diligence in voting intelligence is required) can turn this around, but not with the present ilk.

Margie| 4.8.10 @ 6:40PM

Take your lies and stick them where the Sun don't shine.

RAMIII| 4.8.10 @ 6:58PM

That was reasonable and persuasive.

Margie| 4.8.10 @ 9:21PM

See George True's post @ 7:46. He is much more "reasonable" than me.

RAMIII| 4.8.10 @ 9:38PM

I read that post and agree with what was written there. In my earlier post I was merely trying to point out that many, many of the Republicans have been playing a game of deception with the voters and I will not tolerate being lied to anymore by these people.

I do also agree that having our strategy on the front of our sleeve is not wise and I am looking for shrewd leadership as Ronald Reagan had, and perhaps Sarah Palin can continue to demonstrate. The current power brokers are afraid of her and that gives me significant hope this ship can be righted again.
God bless.

Margie| 4.8.10 @ 10:12PM

You said~
"What you are basically admitting by writing:
"We need to defeat the Democrats. I will vote Republican in order to do that."
is that you want the train to socialism and serfdom to go just a little slower."

I don't tolerate being lied about. You said you won't tolerate being lied to by Republicans. It goes both ways.
I don't want that train to go "just a little slower." I don't want it to get there at all. Just like you don't, I assume. With all of this phony division amongst ourselves how are we going to win?
I've been preaching it for years that we need to vote Republican in order to win. The problem has been a too sleepy voter base. We have it so good here, too good maybe, so people aren't involved. Now that a blatant Communist is in office people are waking up. But the answer isn't to go looking for a third party. It's to restore our own party.

I apologize for my course language, though. Sorry.

RAMIII| 4.8.10 @ 10:22PM

Apology accepted -- and I agree the "Ross Perot's" do more damage yet. It is sometimes very discouraging when running this "Marathon" and you encounter obstacles that make it more difficult than the thing is already.
Righteousness is what exalts a nation.
Thanks for the dialogue and challenge to make my discussion clearer and better.

Margie| 4.8.10 @ 10:44PM

"Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people." Pro. 14:34.
Amen.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 11:29PM

Margie, regarding RAMIII, it's hard nowadays to tell the Libertarians from the democrap operatives.

VN VET| 4.9.10 @ 1:18PM

VN VET: Are you just trying to stir the pot?

Don't know what you are basing your comparison on. I read some of your other posts and you seem to be saying the same thing I am.

You either didn't read/understand what I wrote or . . . ?

????????????| 4.9.10 @ 6:54PM

Odd post to say the least. VN Vet is addressing himself?

Brian Mc| 4.8.10 @ 6:23PM

Tex,

I immediately scrolled down to find your addition to this maddening litany of vortex spiralling down to the common denominator which is this...Constitution, or not...Liberty, or not...America as it was entrusted to us...or not!
God bless and keep up the good posts!

Brian

Paul| 4.8.10 @ 10:57AM

Unfortunately, the reality is that strict conservative ideas are in the minority within the American electorate. There are three options: (1) accept defeat, (2) focus on persuading the American electorate that conservative ideas are actually better, or (3) focus on winning elections by nominating more "moderate" candidates who will then focus on making the liberal ideas less bad.

Of these options, number 3 would seem to be the most likely to occur because it will more quickly give actual power to Republican candidates.

People who favor option 2 should stop worrying less about elections and start worrying more about public relations.

Jimmy| 4.8.10 @ 11:57AM

liberal

Paul| 4.8.10 @ 12:45PM

You just watch and see what happens. The Republicans who want to get elected, which is what all politicians want, will calculate that a more moderate position (meaning tweak but do not repeal) is clearest path to power.

If the "liberal" views were, in fact, so distasteful to the general electorate, then the Democrats would not have been able to get what they got and the Republicans in Congress would not be so quick to pour water on the "repeal" fire.

By definition, the more you prune your party to attain a position of purity, the smaller your party will get. The most rational approach, then, is to make the tent as big as you can stomach.

Paul| 4.8.10 @ 12:45PM

You just watch and see what happens. The Republicans who want to get elected, which is what all politicians want, will calculate that a more moderate position (meaning tweak but do not repeal) is clearest path to power.

If the "liberal" views were, in fact, so distasteful to the general electorate, then the Democrats would not have been able to get what they got and the Republicans in Congress would not be so quick to pour water on the "repeal" fire.

By definition, the more you prune your party to attain a position of purity, the smaller your party will get. The most rational approach, then, is to make the tent as big as you can stomach.

Nobama| 4.8.10 @ 3:55PM

40% of Americans say they are CONSERVATIVES--20% of Americans say the are LIBERALs--that's why libs have to lie, cheat and steal to win.

We can win this battle, folks--WE HAVE THE NUMBERS!

WE CAN DO THIS! Ignore the stupid trolls, they are our enemies.

Margie| 4.8.10 @ 4:04PM

Amen!

sandyinohio| 4.8.10 @ 2:08PM

The Democrats were "able to get what they got" by illicit bribing using money we ALL contributed! It is not that they did the will of the majority.

Mimi| 4.8.10 @ 10:59AM

The pendulum is stuck to the LEFT. the might of AMERICA is fierce'ly setting it free. ARE WE READY? you ask? "YOU BETCHA"

David| 4.8.10 @ 10:59AM

It comes as no surprise to anyone that republican representatives are showing their true colors as fair-weather friends and guardians of the people's trust. Self-serving comes to mind. So be it. When all hell breaks loose it will be in all directions. Word.

Bob R| 4.8.10 @ 11:01AM

As of this moment I am voting third party. The Republican party is incapable of adjusting to the demands of their conservative (people's) sector. Tea partiers should begin to recognize this slovenly Republican barrier that protects Democrat extremism for what it is.

Nobama| 4.8.10 @ 3:56PM

NO THIRD PARTY--a vote for a third party candidate is a vote for democrats.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 11:33PM

That's what Bob just said, he's voting democrap. He's most likely a Libertarian or a democrap operative.

RICHARD ASCHER| 4.8.10 @ 11:03AM

REPLACE THEM ALL !! THIS IS WHY WE HAVE THE TEA PARTY. WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER !!

John Campbell| 4.8.10 @ 11:06AM

Leaders lead - politicians pander.
RINO's and American Spectator apologists be damned.
Freedom loving citizens have had enough!

darcy| 4.9.10 @ 5:36AM

We're on the brink of losing our constitutional liberty. Why? Because the idiots out here in the heartland for too long have been awol in the civic-responsibility department, and too brainwashed by progressives as they made their long march through our institutions.

But now we've been slapped in the face and seen a glimpse of our future, and worse, our childrens' future -- and we're mad as hell.

Just because a pol is a Republican doesn't mean he's not a progressive and just as eager to screw over the nation for his own advancement. Test them. And as now, when we see the putrifying Cornyn and Corker making nice with our mortal enemies, it's time to give them the boot.

The VERY LEAST Republicans must do is repeal the knife to our heart that is demcare.

If any of them haven't the stomach for it, then get the hell out of congress. WE DON'T WANT YOU.

victoria_29| 4.8.10 @ 11:08AM

This goes back to that spineless fool Michael Steele. Too bad we can not vote or have a say in who is head of RNC, Steele would have never been elected much less allowed to stay.

I am lucky no one sent this memo to My Congressional Candidate Les Phillip in AL 05 & even if they did he ignore it, he supports the Constitution. We need to support all the Conservative Veterans running for Congress, Senate, state level jobs, etc . Vets seem to get it, we have a Constitution & they understand they are sworn to defend it, these weak knee cowards in DC have forgotten this.

Don Meaker| 4.8.10 @ 11:08AM

Who is John Galt?

I know Cornyn. He was Tx attorney general when they sued me for not paying child support that I had paid, and I showed canceled checks, stamped by them, and signed by my exwife. He is another member of the legal fraternity which wants to siphon as much money out of the non-lawyer community as possible. I ended up paying 10,000$ extra to my exwife, but not a cent more to the bloodsucking lawyers. Cornyn, yes, I know him. Another 'theft by government' type.

Rich W.| 4.8.10 @ 11:09AM

I've believed that the Tea party should not become a plitical party to challenge the Republicans. If this article is true, then I'm in a mood to change my mind. I will not vote for those types of milk toast republicans. I would rather die fighting than die a coward!

Dale Cord| 4.8.10 @ 11:11AM

I believe these gangsters who are holding our government hostage will eventually push the "SLEEPING LION" to the point of their own destruction. When you give a man enough rope, he will inevitably hang himself. Many will die, but that is the price we have to pay, every so often for our Freedom. It has been recorded in our history books since our inception into this "Den of Iniquity" we call Earth. Our epitaph will read: "Obama fiddled while America burned"

Ace| 4.8.10 @ 11:13AM

Well, is it becoming any clearer to you Republican worshippers that your party is just a big of fraud as the dems?

Nobama| 4.8.10 @ 3:58PM

NO. Unlike your democrat party of liberal bloodsucking whores, there are still many decent, honorable folks in the republican party.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 11:36PM

NObama...Ace is actually a Libertarian, a de facto democrap.

Nobama| 4.9.10 @ 3:14AM

Exactly! Either one spells disaster for our Republic.

Margie| 4.8.10 @ 4:09PM

Ace,
What is actually becoming PAINFULLY clear to the entire nation, is that the Democrat party is the party of power hungry statists who love Obama and who are selling out completely and utterly to the state. The party that is actually home to Socialists and Communists.
Your party is losing and will continue to lose, and to be seen for what it truly is!

Ace| 4.9.10 @ 10:07AM

I admire your passion, Margie. But your rhetoric falls flat considering that Bush expanded government faster than did Clinton, got us involved into two bankrupting wars, and did his best to trash the Constitution and curtail civil liberties by preying on the fears of the population.

Obama is the same old, same old pawn of the oligarchs who have ruled this nation for a hundred years or more.

NO TROLLS!| 4.9.10 @ 6:56PM

Obama's worse because he's a Marxist ideologue--if you can't see that then you are a Marxist, too.

Troll.

Andrew Terhune| 4.8.10 @ 11:16AM

That's why my contributions go to organizations like the Club for Growth and not the RNC.

Ralph Woods| 4.8.10 @ 11:16AM

This is the reason I tossed my RNC renewal in the trash last night. From this moment on any and all political contributions will go to conservative politicians of MY CHOICE!

Mary| 4.8.10 @ 11:20AM

RINOS Go HOME!
I am independant because I trust none of them!
Get rid of the Rinos and ignore the RNC which by the way is losing in Florida as they push Crist against Rubio. McCain is also set to go to the woodshed, and not too soon either.The people "get it" and the RNC had better change or a HUGE third party will be taking their place. Gerald Celente predicts there will be a viable third party candidate in 2012 and I think he is right on!

Lavaux| 4.8.10 @ 11:23AM

Throw all the bums out, GOP and Democrat alike. They've all surrendered their souls to the Beltway's Faustian bargain - a sinecure of political power in return for government activism. Show me a politician who promises to do absolutely no legislating in Washington other than repealing current laws or parts of them, and I'll show you a politician for whose election campaign I'll work all ten fingers to the bone.

I'm sick to death of Republican politicians who promise to make my life better if only I don't mind paying a few more thousand dollars more in taxes every year, or borrowing a few trillion dollars more, or adding a few more letters to the alphabet soup of federal agencies perched on my back like a herd of elephants, or deposing a few more Arab dictators at the expense of blood and economic liberty, etc.

This current lot of Republican party hacks don't get our discontent. Even Sen. Coburn, for whom I formerly had nothing but respect, blames my discontent on Fox News as if I weren't smart enough to parse spin and disregard hype. No, I hate to say it, but Sen. Coburn must go, too, as must every other Republican who takes me for a lazy fool. Until we voters teach politicians to respect our intelligence and will, they'll continue to run amok while trying to convince us that it's for our own good, but we're just too stupid and ignorant to understand it.

So let's get busy, folks. Whether we march with the Tea Party movement or start one of our own, let's do what needs doing to throw all these bums out.

Bob Miller| 4.8.10 @ 11:25AM

In November, the voters will either elect or not elect a Congress controlled by conservatives. There are many paths to the "not elect" option, including electing RINOs and wasting votes on third party losers.

thirteen28| 4.8.10 @ 11:27AM

"One of the Republican leadership's ..."

Republican leadership ... now *that's* funny. Squishes like Cornyn couldn't lead a pack of hungry dogs to fresh meat.

Joan of Snark | 4.8.10 @ 11:28AM

It's simply time for the Tea Party to mobilize and replace the GOP with constitutional conservatives. Instead of spouting off online, get involved at your local and state levels of the GOP (committeeman, etc.) and make your voice heard so that come November there are truly viable candidates to replace both the Democrat asses and GOP RINOs.

Lucinda| 4.8.10 @ 4:00PM

Spout off online AND get involved in local and state races--both are important.

MAKE YOUR CONSERVATIVE VOICES HEARD!!!

somnolence| 4.8.10 @ 11:30AM

I'm quite certain that the Constitution takes priority over "mathematics" in this case. The Jay Sekulows and Andrew Napolitanos will win the case very clearly in the courts. In the meantime all of the "conservative" candidates had best blast this bill up and down EVERYDAY and vow to REPEAL it, or they will never get my vote. In the long run it will be unenforceable and even those who blindly think it will be beneficial will realize they have been duped. Any of you geniuses ever heard of HIPPA? It has only been around for over ten years. I really don't care if the final course was to result in real bloodshed. It might be worth it to take out some of the child molestors who'll be getting viagra or the smack addicts, etc. Those on the left who maintain "we've got the bombs, drones, etc."---the clear message is mortal life wouldn't be worth living at that point anyway. To fight and die for a heavenly cause might very well be.

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 11:41PM

In a simpler time, before the Court system was politicized in the 30's, we wouldn't have had to worry about unconstitutional measures like this becoming law. Now the mighty Constitution is ragged and torn and on life support. But patriots will not let it die.

MakeMyDay| 4.8.10 @ 11:32AM

So the question becomes--were they lieing then, or are they lieing now?

Too many Republicans have already promised to run on repeal. Their words are on the record. That is what they promised, and that is what they will run on--whether they weasel now or not.

And nothing will make this Democrat happier.

jdalabama| 4.8.10 @ 1:31PM

C'mon! All together now! "mmm mmm mmm Barrack Hussein Obama"...Repeat!

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 11:48PM

I could tell you were a democrap, you spell like one. It's lying. As a democrap you are also an anti-American. Check out the American Communist Party (CPUSA) website sometime. If you're not too lazy to get up off the couch to practice good citizenship. Look up marxist in the dictionary, you will see a picture of Obumbo. You proud commie you.

LJ| 4.8.10 @ 11:35AM

I want to to know exactly WHO are the republicans against repeal. This article did not go far enough and name names. They need to either offer up a better version to replace the repealed one or they are in trouble and WILL BE viewed as a bunch of crybabies. BTW, I am NOT in any way, shape, or form a liberal democrat. I come from the conservative side of the tracks--not the socialist side.

Patrick J Greene| 4.8.10 @ 11:47AM

You can guess: McCain, McConnell, Cornyn, Graham, the usual suspects. They will lead the failure. We must vote them out, marginalize them until we can remove them. They are no more Republican than Spector.

wemmett| 4.8.10 @ 11:38AM

The health bill is so obviously incompatible with the idea of limited government that if the GOP, with the support of the majority of the population according to recent polls, cannot unite around the goal of repealing and replacing it, then it forfeits any claim to the loyalties of those, who, like me, support the ideas of limited government embodied in our founding documents.

If the GOP fails to act here, I am done with it forever.

darcy| 4.9.10 @ 5:55AM

The only way the GOP will unite to go after demcare repeal is if they understand, wemmett, that what you write here reflects the opinion of the majority of repub voters.

The last thing, the very last thing, these est. party repubs need to hear is that we'll go along like lemmings, continuing to vote for them regardless of principle, just because they have an R next to their names and because that other party is just too commie to get behind.

The voters have disgustingly been enabling repubs to be the wimps that they are. If we don't have any backbone to our beliefs, how can we expect elected repubs to man up?? How can we even get good conservative repubs to enter the field?

A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves.

Withhold your vote if they haven't the guts and the principles to fight with every fiber of their being against this fiscally insane and liberty destroying demcare.

Ldot| 4.8.10 @ 11:40AM

Here, here, Deborah and the others that say B.S. Vote out all RINOS! And speaking of creation of new bills, let's add: if you don't pay taxes, you don't vote (maybe that would discourage those Dems who want to grant the vote to illegals and felons), and TERM LIMITS!!!

VN VET| 4.8.10 @ 11:55PM

You know what Ldot...that's about the best idea I've heard in a long time. Anyone who doesn't pay federal income taxes forfeits the right to vote in a federal election. That would fix the communist's sorry asses. The commiecrats are trying to stack the deck, let's let the bastards play 52 card pickup!

Finbarr Moran| 4.8.10 @ 11:42AM

I would like to thank Mark Kirk for making my job harder.

In my email chains, I encourage folks to support groups like the Tea Party. This is a diverse group (unlike the pseudo-diversity claimed by the political Left in their groups) who wishes to preserve the exceptional way of life that has evolved in this great nation. Composed of folks who were not particularly political until Obama, they have provided hope that The Anointed One’s missteps can be corrected without ugliness. Just as a former generation saw Prohibition as a colossal mistake and repealed it, the Tea Party has connected the same dots on Obamacare.

However, there are many others who have come to believe that there is no recourse than does not involve ugliness. These folks generally believe that there is not the proverbial dime’s worth of difference between the Democrats and the Republicans. They have lost faith in the ballot box as a remedy and weak-kneed RINOs like Mark Kirk are largely responsible this feeling.

I pray that no crunch comes because revolutions have an ironic way of ending badly. Unless won decisively, at worst it could degenerate into civil war, at best our narcissist-in-chief will surely see it as an opening to establish an American version of the brown shirts to put down future dissent.

If the crunch does come, it will be on the heads of lily-livered politicos like Cornyn, Corker and Kirk.

Patrick J Greene| 4.8.10 @ 11:42AM

I encourage you all to do your part. I have supported my local 'not a RINO' candidate, Dr. Rand Paul, using my mouth and wallet, since he explored a run for the seat Senator Bunning is stepping down from. I also have 'adopted' Bart Stupak's Republican ‘also not a RINO' candidate Dr. Dan Benishek, contributing $9.12 amounts to his campaign as I can afford it. I am looking for other 'worthy' non-RINOs that need my [out of district] support. Most incumbents need not apply. Only a few in congress deserve our support. Bachman in MI, DeMint in SC, and Paul in TX top my list. As a Kentucky Republican, my goal past the 2010 elections is to vote out the Obamanation and recall the RINO Mitch McConnell.
In case you think I am one of those ‘rich Republicans’, I am a 20 year & 6 day Infantry veteran, retired in 2003 at E6 rank, 70% disabled. Obviously, I am on a fixed income, and a large chunk of my retired pay goes for the 'free' health care I was promised [Tricare -which is not free]; and for life insurance from the VA, since my disabilities make it impossible to get affordable term private life insurance. The point isn't sympathy; the point is that if I can donate time and money from my limited resources, so can you. I have an 18 year old son, a 27 year old son with spouse and 2 boys, and a 26 year old daughter with 2 girls and a husband in the Marines. We have to save our country for their future. We owe our forefathers and the founding fathers no less. God Bless all of you.

Dustoff| 4.8.10 @ 11:45AM

This isn't good news for Canada is it's spending.
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After Alberta's finance minister, Ted Morton, delivered a deficit budget last month, he vowed to visit university campuses and tell students, "You and your parents are spending a bunch of money to help Quebec, and they're paying half the tuition you are."

Not only do Quebecers pay less tuition, they also pay far less for electricity, drugs and daycare. Quebec offers a more generous parental leave program than elsewhere, and higher corporate subsidies.

"I don't think there is any place in the world panicking as much on the question of debt as Quebec," said economist Louis Gill. The reason for this, as Quebec prepares to unveil another deficit budget March 30, is simple: it is Canada's most indebted province.

Its debt is at 94 per cent of its gross domestic product, just ahead of Japan, Italy and Greece, whose debts exceed their GDP, according to numbers calculated by the provincial finance ministry.

Pingback| 4.8.10 @ 11:47AM

Health Reform Scam » Republicans Against Repeal links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…counseled that repeal was fundamentally unconservative: “True conservatives are not radicals; they respect tradition and work for stable reform to fix institutions.” Read the rest of this article at The American Spectator. This entry was posted on Thursday, April 8th, 2010 at 11:47 am and is filed under Dirty Secret, Lies, Politicians, Uninsured. You can follow any responses to this entry through…

Pingback| 4.8.10 @ 11:48AM

Republican Leaders Learn to Stop Worrying; Love Still Pending - Hit & Run : Reason Ma links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…391-2245 advertisements Print | Email Republican Leaders Learn to Stop Worrying; Love Still Pending Jesse Walker | April 8, 2010 Remember all that rhetoric about repealing the health care bill? Jim Antle reports that the GOP is quietly snuffing it out: After Democratic supermajorities rammed through their health care bill, Republicans were full of sound and fury about how this injustice will not stand. Even John…

ANGEL| 4.8.10 @ 11:48AM

IT IS WITH GREAT SADNESS THAT I WILL SEE THE CONSERVATIVE WHITE ANGLO-SAXON PROTESTANT DIE-OFF IN MY LIFETIME. ON THE OTHER HAND THIS WILL BE CONSIDERED THE "RAPTURE" BY THE REST OF THE POPULATION. IMAGINE A UNITED STATES FULL OF CITIZENS THAT 1) DO NOT LIKE WAR AND RESIST GOING TO WAR 2) DO NOT MIND PAYING EXTRA TO COVER 30 MILLION UN-INSURED 3) DO NOT TRUST CORPORATES AND REGULATES THM ACCORDINGLY 4) DO NOT TRUST WALL STREET AND REGULATES THEM ACCORDINGLY 5) DO NOT TRUST BANKS AND REGULATES THEM ACCORDINGLY 6) INTRODUCE A THIRD OR FOURTH PARTY INTO OUR LEGISLATIVE SYATEM 7) DECRIMINALIZE AND TAX SOME OF OUR VICES (DOOBIES AND FLOOZIES) ---- I COUILD GO ON AND ON!!

BUT

THE REAL CLEAR FACT TO ME IS THAT THIS COUNTRY IS INHABITED BY TWO KINDS OF MENTALITY. I THINK IT IS PROBABLY GENETIC AND PERMANENT. YOU ARE BORN LIBERAL EMPHATIC FREE-SPRIT OR YOU ARE BORN A CONSERVATIVE DRONE HAPPY IN THE HIVE OF STATUS QUO.

AS I SAID EARLIER, THE YEARS AHEAD WILL SEE THE DIE-OFF OF THESE DRONES AND THENAND ONLY THEN WILL WE SEE THE TRUE GREATNESS OF THIS GREAT DIVERSE UTOPIA TRULY BLOSSOM!!!

jdalabama| 4.8.10 @ 1:03PM

Yep, a diverse utopia will blossom. Just like in socialist democracies of Europe. Or in China. We can join all those blissful millions!

Dale Cord| 4.8.10 @ 1:11PM

Remember prescription drugs can kill. Past this on to your friends.

RAMIII| 4.8.10 @ 2:06PM

Great Satire!

OR?

How much of your income have you willingly and cheerfully surrendered as extra to the tax collector so you can create this "UTOPIA" you write of?

Forget the tax man maybe you should just divest yourself of all your income to your friends and relatives and when you need something go to them for a handout -- maybe they'll have something left for you. But don't be angry if they squandered it all because it wasn't something they worked for.

Lucinda| 4.8.10 @ 4:05PM

Yeah, another great Marxist utopia; we know how well it turned out for the hundreds of millions who were slaughtered by Marxist 'utopias' in the 20th centuy.

Must be an 'Angel' of Satan. Liberalism is a mental illness--Angel proves it.

VN VET| 4.9.10 @ 12:04AM

I don't think "Angel" is smart enough to know it, but he's just called for a return to Serfdom. Angel, 50% of the people in the U.S. are already paying for the sustenance of the other 50%. I suspect that the political makeup is diversified to a certain extent with the upper 50%, with conservatives leading the way and I'm positive that the political makeup of the lower 50% consists of people of your ideology.

Walley| 4.9.10 @ 3:17AM

Liberals created public schools to facilitate the dumbing down of Americans. You can see the evidence all over this thread. Tragic.

Dean M.| 4.8.10 @ 11:49AM

The Republican Party started as a third party. It replaced the Whigs, which had replaced the Federalist Party. A third party that becomes a major national party and replaces what went before is not a new thing. Perhaps it is time. I am very disappointed in the GOP. I have now re-registered as an Independent. The GOP is composed of "whimps" while the Democrats are "crazies"--whimps to the right, crazies to the left--as Bernard Goldberg says. Conservatives need a new party with leadership that has backbone. The GOP has lost its salt and its savor. Time to start something new.

VN VET| 4.9.10 @ 12:09AM

Well, some of it has to do with the immigrants of the last 30 years or so. If we didn't have an unconstitutional welfare system, we would be getting the kind of immigrants who appreciate freedom.

Ken (Old Texican)| 4.8.10 @ 11:50AM

I spent some considerable time answering James above. In the mean time, I have seen bitching and whining no end, along with, of course the gleeful laughter of the "useful idiots" who hang out here.

Hey, people,
How many conservatives does it take to form a circular firing squad? (See comments above)

Dopes! Dupes!

How many of you wimps ever got off your dead butts and have gone to see YOUR Senator?

I have visited with Senator Cornyn. I respect the man. I shall vote for him again. He showed up at TWO tea-parties that I know of...not to speak, he told me, but to listen. Right up the aisle was my Rep. John Culberson...same response to my question.

Cornyn helped hold the line......totally... on the healthcare vote. Not one Repub. crossed the aisle.

He has been throwing sand in the Demos' gears every single day fighting a holding action across the board.
I have had reason to fax he and his staff a fax of (ATTA_BOY) on numerous occasions since Nov. 2008.
Have any of you...any of you... sent your Republican Senator or Rep. an atta-boy lately?

Thought not.

Dumbunnies, of course Cornyn doesn't want Repubs to run on "repeal" in 2010. Repeal blather would be a stupid with this sitting president. He also knows that de-funding the damn thing is a function of the House of Reps. Not the Senate.
A rational man does not lead with his chin in what is shaping up to be a "killin' fight" in Congress.

Quit whining and bitching, folks and get to work.
(Read Cornyn's own words on his website...or .....just keep being part of the problem instead of the solution.)
http://www.johncornyn.com/

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Prominent Republican calls repealing health care ‘unconservative’ | The Daily Caller links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…ER SEND TIPS April 8, 2010 Prominent Republican calls repealing health care ‘unconservative’ By Mike Riggs | Published: 04/08/10 at 11:50 AM The American Spectator is very, very unhappy with Senators Bob Corker and John Cornyn, among others: Not only is it the case that Republicans “do not have the votes,” but [Congressman Mark] Kirk noted “a sliver of good things in the bill which…

Anonymous| 4.8.10 @ 11:55AM

Screw the RINOs, they just want to kiss the Demo-rats ass hoping they'll throw 'em in a FEMA camp last.

Dai Alanye | 4.8.10 @ 11:56AM

There's a ridiculous amount of negativity and depression in the comments today, all brought on by one pessimistic article and the mutterings of several Quislings.

Let's not lose our courage because of one defeat. Obamacare can be resisted if we elect a few more good people, and hang a few bad ones in order to encourage the rest. It might take years to straighten out this nation, but most of us aren't going anywhere, if only because the rest of the world is in worse shape.

Hang in there, folks, and send the Dems packing this fall. Nothing is more likely to straighten out the Cornyns of the party than seeing people like Reid go crashing down to defeat. And if we're able to give Boehner a majority we can hope he'll get at least as much mileage out of it as did Gingrich, while showing more backbone at the same time.

I say the cup is half full, and we should ignore these naysayers who propose compromise with principles we know to be wrong.

Lucinda| 4.8.10 @ 4:07PM

I agree! Stay strong, people.

Finbarr Moran| 4.8.10 @ 5:19PM

Dai,

I, of course, agree.

However, I suspect the melancholy is caused by the number of times that we have been left at the altar by the moderate Republicans.

In my home state of Illinois, the moderates are in full swing with the “electability” line. We hear bromides like “with a moderate, at least, you’ll get 80% of what you want.” In Mark Kirk’s case, this is well-nigh impossible given that he has a lifetime ACU rating of 65%.

Moreover, Kirk positions himself in the somewhat oxymoronic fiscal conservative-social moderate dichotomy. Yet he was one of the few Republicans who favored the Cap and Trade bill which is primarily a fiscal issue bill given the high taxes and their trickledown effect on costs throughout the economy.

This is the big problem with moderates. When they cross the aisle, it’s not always on issues that are primarily social. Remember McCain’s pronouncement that the debate of global warming was over?

We also need to stop letting the opposition define the terms of the debate. We need both candidates and a party support structure that will be willing to get out the message that our conservative disposition in everyone’s best interests not just the rich, the white, etc. For example, how many Spanish-speaking copywriters do the GOP employ that could position us a distinct choice versus Dem Lite on the wildly popular Hispanic radio scene?

Sorry for having veered slightly off course, but this is something we all need to think about.

“Electable” moderates will just continue to disappoint us on a wide variety of fiscal AND social issues and result in more threads like this one.

Remember “read my lips, no new taxes.”

bruno| 4.8.10 @ 11:59AM

Yes, part of the solution in November is to run the Rino leadership off with every democratic incumbent we can get. John Mcphoney and anyone who has even the appearance as one who would not follow through on not funding Obama and truly work to return our country back on the road of opportunity not hand outs and tax hikes. Obama has helped us to this point with his incompetence and out of touch beliefs. The Tea party has the momentum and will continue to grow toward November. A coherent plan of attack to remove all known country killers should begin to develop. Let us all unite on the simple premise that America will always be the land of the free and if you choose to be a free loader your life will exist under a bridge and in community soup lines. Free markets, freedom of choice and life under the constitution are the key points going forward... Accountability and accurate history books would go a long way toward educating American kids about whom and what America is. The current method of liberal propaganda presented as fact must stop. Allowing congress to not include themselves and their families into every bill they pass should be the litmus test we use to select our new representatives. No more big government politicians talking out both sides of there mouth. No more entitlements we can’t afford and no more 2000 page bills full of crap surrounding one issue and hiding kick backs, scams and abuse of the constitution. Let the march toward returning America to Americans begin today. Only real folks need apply. The rest of you including all of the soon to be unemployed politicians should consider moving out of the country. Anywhere is fine just take your ignorant fairness doctrine and go be a burden on some other failing country. America is not a fair place the free market is not a fair place it is a place where the best win and loser finds a different path to follow. I know it sounds though and cruel and mean but, that is why we are or were the greatest country ever founded on this planet. Fire the incumbents on both sides of the isle and let Freedom roll over the Liberal agenda and end progressive ideology as an acceptable belief in American politics. This thinking only belongs on some elitist college campus where reality does not exist. But, to try and redirect this great country and its majority of conservative proud Americans is simply unacceptable at any level of leadership. Do it for your kids, do it for our country, do not stop pushing till we get back on the true path for American greatness.

Kris Lepine| 4.8.10 @ 11:59AM

Term limits, term limits, term limits! That's what I want to hear from the candidates I will vote for in the fall.
And yes, take away their perks, and all lobbyists.

B.B. Whittington| 4.8.10 @ 12:00PM

Could be Mr. Cornyn needs to reevaluate his position. Guess the RINO's didn't learn their lesson in Nov. 2008. The Republicans need to return to their base, we lowly Conservatives, or some may deside, as I have, to vote third party instead of voting Dem/Lib Lite. Cornyn and his ilk need to stand by the Constitution, and their base, or get the hay out of the way and let those that will serve as our voice. If they wish to act and govern like the dim/libs, go be a dim/lib, just don't pull another "Spector" on us.

ANGEL| 4.8.10 @ 12:06PM

SOMETHING FUNNY JUST OCCURRED TO ME. WHY DO YOU CONSERVATIVE WHITE ANGLO-SAXONS COMPLAIN SO MUCH??

DON'T YOU KNOW THAT OUR FEMA-CAMPS AND DEATH-PANELS WILL BE THE END OF YOU ALL AND THEIR IS NOTHING Y'ALL CAN DO ABOUT IT!!

ZerObama| 4.8.10 @ 4:08PM

Screw you, stupid. Get a job, loser.

MinnItMan| 4.8.10 @ 12:08PM

"Let's play dirty" - Tom DeLay said "we've cut this budget to the bone!" We'll he was dirty (at least in the sense that he was every bit as willing to buy votes as Reid or Pelosi), and how'd that work out?

Conservatives' rhetoric is comically out of line with reality, and makes it impossible for them to manage expectations. But so many - as represented here - aren't interested in managing (like Jesse Jackson - "Jesse don't want to run nuthin' but his mouth." Marion Barry).

Assuming that the "conservative movement" started in 1964 (which in no way is more favorable to my point), candidates remotely close to Tea Party rhetoric have been presidential nominees 3 out of 12 times. Talk all you want about displacing the Republican Party, but until you replace its voters, you have a problem.

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Right Angles » Blog Archive » This is why Tea Partiers want to change Republican lead links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…and to fail to make inroads into the Democratic Party. The Tea Party can change that. Nothing illustrates the problem facing Tea Partiers and conservative Republicans more than this story, “Republicans Against Repeal,” in The American Spectator today: Republicans against repeal have found an amen corner in the cooler heads among conservative commentators. One Oliver Garland even counseled that…

Great Grandma| 4.8.10 @ 12:10PM

I firmly and respectfully disagree with the assessment by W. James Antle, III, the writer of this article. The Healthcare bill will make this country's healthcare much worse overall, putting government between the person and his doctor with specified care allowed or denial of care because that person fails the government's assessment of viability.

And just because young people don't need nor want health insurance is no reason to fine them and threaten them with imprisonment if they don't get it.

Seniors especially will suffer and die much earlier than they should have to because of huge cuts to Medicare.

Good grief W. James Antle, III! I hope you're wrong.

Bob Miller| 4.8.10 @ 12:10PM

Typing in all-caps marks a comment as suspicious.

Wally| 4.8.10 @ 12:13PM

Yes, REPEAL! ANY Congressperson who does not advocate 100% appeal should be repealed and replaced with a more anti gov't candidate. Americans want insurance companies to be able to exclude millions for pre-existing conditions! Americans want insurance companies to be able to drop coverage when someone paying insurance gets very sick! Americans want 30 million Americans uninsured! Americans want to give insurance companiies and big pharma billions for Medicare Advantage! Americans want huge corporations to double dip to be able to write off federal taxpayer subsidies! (Americans want Exxon to pay NO taxes!) Americans don't want their children covered under their plans until they are 26!

So when Americans find out that these provisions are in HCR, they will most assuredly vote for Tea Party types in 2010 and 2012 in the general. Keep up the good work folks! Oh, and please .. run, Sarah, run.

jdalabama| 4.8.10 @ 1:23PM

C'mon! All together now! "mmm mmm mmm Barrack Hussein Obama"...Repeat!

jdalabama| 4.8.10 @ 1:26PM

All of these things you mention could have been remedied in quick surgical fashion. Without destroying the rest of our healthcare system and without an additional unfunded entitlement program of staggering magnitude.

Jim Sherlock| 4.8.10 @ 12:24PM

How very fitting. Today I received a letter from Cornyn in his capacity as head of the Republican senatorial committee. Of course there was the usual completely asinine questionairre: are we overtaxed, etc. Oddly enough, there was no mention of repealing the monster. Without Antle's report, this subtlety would probably gotten past my usually discerning eye.

Needless to say, no check was enclosed with my response. Cornyn should step down. I would prefer someone in office who would rather die than accept this tyranny.

Jim Hlavac | 4.8.10 @ 12:28PM

Great, the Republicans want to play Menshevik to the Democrats Bolshevik. Charming. And they wonder why I still can't support them. Put both parties out of their misery. I know, so many say "third party" won't work -- sure -- so let's get Mennies or Bollies and see who can socialize and destroy the country without really miffing We the People. Sorry, it's time for them all to go. I can see two parties in the future -- TEA and Socialists -- how simple that would be, eh?

Peter B| 4.8.10 @ 12:29PM

Just one thing... By "rammed through", you mean "voted on?"

jdalabama| 4.8.10 @ 1:22PM

In the most corrupt, partisan, unethical, bribery ridden, secretive disgrace this county has ever seen.

Lucinda| 4.8.10 @ 4:10PM

Back room deals in the dead of night on holidays--the democrat way of 'voting on'.

Vote the losers out!

VN VET| 4.9.10 @ 12:18AM

They're not just losers, they're communists.

Dennis George| 4.8.10 @ 12:35PM

I receive messages every day asking for contributions to the National Republican party. I've been a registered Rep since 1952, a solid conservative since my personal efforts with William F. who invented the Conservative movement. I have donated in the past. But now I will not. Not until we get some Republicans in charge who have cajones. These RINOs and chickens running the henhouse are absurdly as ignorant and devastating to the U.S. as are the left-wing radical Marxists now in charge. Those here calling for changes for laws to mandate that all congressional members must live with the laws they make are on target. Add term limits and we can live with them simply because everything will change for the better. But we must also cure the ills within the Republican party. Deal with that first, then straighten out the country.

Kyle Smith| 4.8.10 @ 12:35PM

Kirk is a total RINO or NAR here is Illinois. If Cornyn is trying to shift the GOP to better the landscape for guys like Kirk, the GOP is on the fast track to irrelevancy. I can't stand that Kirk talked so tough about leading an effort to repeal the bill, and now less than a month later is backing away, going right back to his default position of "elected first, principles never".

Lawrence R| 4.8.10 @ 12:37PM

This guy is dead wrong. If healthcare is allowed to tax all of us and allowed to run it will only lead to a socialist country. The government will continue to invade more and more of our lives. Enough is enough!

VN VET| 4.9.10 @ 12:25AM

Hell, this law will invade every aspect of our lives. When the government has a vested interest in our health, they will attempt to regulate and tax everything humans do. The food police, and smoking nazis have already been at work for some years.

DG | 4.8.10 @ 12:42PM

All the Thieves in Washington need to be thrown out. What is happening to the American People is criminal and a disgrace!

Mara| 4.8.10 @ 12:48PM

“The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected.” - G.K. Chesterton

Valerie Williams| 4.8.10 @ 1:41PM

Good old G. K. How prescient of him.

John Hemmer| 4.8.10 @ 12:51PM

If all Republican Candidates don't push for repeal then there needs to be another Party like we have in New York... The Conservative Party.

Valerie Williams| 4.8.10 @ 1:40PM

I don't mean disrespect, but how many elections has the Conservative Party won? I worry about splitting the conservative vote. What we need to do is take back the GOP in the primaries.

Beth| 4.9.10 @ 3:20AM

Correction: The Tea Party is SAVING the Republican Party.

Rich| 4.8.10 @ 12:52PM

The tea party is destroying the republican party. It's a fact.

Kyle Smith| 4.8.10 @ 1:01PM

The Republican Party is destroying itself, because money runs it, not principles or intelligence. Republican Candidates are all from money and are all vetted by the establishment; an establishment committed to moderating conservative principles while the liberal and progressive ideas flourish and are unchecked by the Democrat establishment. By default the GOP protects the Dems from the citizens; the GOP is the great enabler of liberalism.

jdalbama| 4.8.10 @ 1:16PM

Wow, had a sane thought lately? The tea party is far more respected than either party and is popular with most Americans. More so than the Democratic Party per recent polls.

ZerObama| 4.8.10 @ 4:11PM

Rich is a lying troll--ignore the reptile.

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Are Senate Republicans Fearful of the Left? | NewsReal Blog links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…tone-deaf Republican office holders who are quite happy to allow ObamaCare to destroy the foundations of the American republic. W. James Antle III has an excellent piece in today’s American Spectator on the topic. Well, that didn’t take long. After Democratic supermajorities rammed through their health care bill, Republicans were full of sound and fury about how this injustice will not…

sly311| 4.8.10 @ 1:10PM

Remember November 2010 is coming. Remember "elections have consequences." Remeber RINOs have consequences.

ttyler5| 4.8.10 @ 1:13PM

Wally,

You're crazy of you think the rest of us want to pay for insurance for 30 million slobs who won't pay for health insurance for themselves and their own families!

And you're crazy if you think the rest of us support paying higher and higher insurance rates:

1) to cover other people's college kids until they are 26 years old GOOD GAWD WHAT A JOKE :^D :^D :^D

2) to cover people with "pre-existing" conditions.

The democrats have dug their own political graves with the shovel of Obamacare.

jdalabama| 4.8.10 @ 1:19PM

C'mon! All together now! "mmm mmm mmm Barrack Hussein Obama"...Repeat!

Joe D.| 4.8.10 @ 1:35PM

That is why McCain, Collins, Snow and others need to go.

Valerie Williams| 4.8.10 @ 1:36PM

True conservatives detest government. We choose to do more creative and productive things with our lives and we tend to find the political sphere full of the types of people we prefer to avoid altogether. A true conservative will typically only engage in politics when things become so problematic as to beg for fixing. That's why Reagan did it - he was being taxed at greater than 90%!

We need to call on true conservatives to hold their nose and jump into the cesspool to save our country. If they don't come forward, then we will forever be at the mercy of those people who are comfortable in the cesspool.

Blooki| 4.8.10 @ 1:44PM

This article came as NO surprise to me.
There is BIG TIME corruption within BOTH of the political parties in Washington. I have been saying all along that this bill (If passed) would "NEVER" be repealed. Once that kind of capital starts to flow into the capital, Neither Party will EVER stop it ! Money IS Power!!
Power neither will ever relinquish.
Just look at the Federal "Income Tax" , Supposedly a "Temporary" measure to support a war. "Social Security " (LOL), Medicare etc.
You may remember the infrequent Tax "CUT", but when have you ever heard of a tax rescindment???
We Need to fire "ALL OF THEM" , then (And "ONLY THEN"!) we can demand such measures (And More.) from those who would replace them.
Wipe the slate, and start over!!

David Watkins| 4.8.10 @ 1:53PM

The RNC and Mr. Steele probably can't understand why I refuse to donate any money to their "cause" (part of their annoying request to fill out and return a survey that they obviously do not look at - probably too busy trying to get reimbursed for attending strip clubs and endorsing RINOs.

David | 4.8.10 @ 1:53PM

I am have been losing a lot of respect for our Texas senator, John Cornyn, in recent month. I am fed up with him and the repub establishment backing the RINO's in primary races against true conservatives such as backing Crist against Rubio and McCain against Hayworth. That is why contributions to the senatorial election committee he heads are way down. Why would anyone send money to the committee when they can send the money directly to the candidate they choose to support. Sending it to the committee or to the RNC, and trusting them to support conservative candidates, is no different than us paying more than our fair share of federal incomes and then the fed government sends back to us a portion of what we send to them. Cut out the middle man if you are giving to politicians.

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The American Spectator : Republicans Against Repeal American Me links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…American people are very angry and they don’t like it and we are going to try to repeal this.” But in the GOP, cooler heads always prevail. … Here is the original: The American Spectator : Republicans Against Repeal By admin | category: american | tags: are-going, beltway, cooler-heads, gop, outside-the-beltway, television-interviewer, very-angry | What is not happening to…

Brazos Raschal | 4.8.10 @ 2:33PM

When I get request for a contribution to the Republican Party (federal or state), I return without a contribution but with the note, "Take my contribution from Michael Steele's expense account!"

Blooki| 4.8.10 @ 2:35PM

This article came as NO surprise to me.
There is BIG TIME corruption within BOTH of the political parties in Washington. I have been saying all along that this bill (If passed) would "NEVER" be repealed. Once that kind of capital starts to flow into the capital, Neither Party will EVER stop it ! Money IS Power!!
Power neither will ever relinquish.
Just look at the Federal "Income Tax" , Supposedly a "Temporary" measure to support a war. "Social Security " (LOL), Medicare etc.
You may remember the infrequent Tax "CUT", but when have you ever heard of a tax rescindment???
We Need to fire "ALL OF THEM" , then (And "ONLY THEN"!) we can demand such measures (And More.) from those who would replace them.
Wipe the slate, and start over!!

Jim O'Brien| 4.8.10 @ 2:43PM

The Democrats took over the White House and Congress largely because Bush & Company tried so hard to please the left, that it lost the right.

Apparently many Republican "leaders" haven't learned one damned thing from their loss to Obama and his comrades. The health care bill was shoved down the throats of 2/3 of the voters, who clearly don't want it. It is a national disaster and violates the Constitution. If the Republican Party can't pledge to repeal ObamaCare, then we have taxation without representation. We know the Democrats are Socialists; are the Republicans Fake Capitalists?

VN VET| 4.9.10 @ 12:55AM

You are very correct in your analysis Jim. Worst part is we can't expect any redress from the Supreme Court on the health-fare since 4 communists and 1 loose cannon presently sit there. The (elected) republicans are just cowards.

Jacobite| 4.8.10 @ 2:46PM

Sorry if I'm repeating something, but I don't have time to read all the comments.
Don't be a Conservative -- be a Right-winger!!!! G.K.Chesterton said: "All the world is divided into progressives and Conservatives. It is the business of progressives to make mistakes. It is the business of Conservatives to make sure the mistakes are never corrected."

victor| 4.8.10 @ 8:55PM

Of course, you are deliberately confusing American Conservativism with the British Conservative Party.
Much as the liberals quote John Stewart Mill about stupid people who are Conservative.
Apples and oranges.
But then, that is why you are a liberal.

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The American Spectator : Republicans Against Repeal links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…people are very angry and they don’t like it and we are going to try to repeal this.” But in the GOP, cooler heads always prevail. … Read the original post: The American Spectator : Republicans Against Repeal Posted in American | Tags: always-prevail-, are-going, beltway, gop, like-it-and, outside-the-beltway, television-interviewer, very-angry Comments are closed. Search Search…

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The American Spectator : Republicans Against Repeal links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…people are very angry and they don’t like it and we are going to try to repeal this.” But in the GOP, cooler heads always prevail. … View original post here: The American Spectator : Republicans Against Repeal Posted in American | Tags: always-prevail-, are-going, cooler-heads, gop, like-it-and, outside-the-beltway, people-are, television-interviewer, very-angry Comments are closed.…

MattZ| 4.8.10 @ 3:02PM

I love this "magazine" because it counsels Republicans to act in an even more confusing manner than they normally would, all in the name of conservatism - if that term even means *anything* anymore. Nowadays, conservatives just seem to stand in opposition of what any politician with a (D) after their name says and reject ideas that they formerly supported. Remember, the very idea of the individual mandate was a plank in the Republican health care plan that was presented as a counterpoint to Clinton’s; was it unconstitutional then, so recent in memory, before the Republican party lurched precipitously to the right and when the mandate to buy individual insurance was considered a very mainstream idea?

If you loons think that arguing for a repeal of the Affordable Care Act is the way forward for the modern American conservative movement, be my guest. I wish you luck, but, like a liberal, I can't help but knowing better yet again.
MZ

Jeanne| 4.8.10 @ 7:09PM

Thank you, Matt, for reminding us that the individual mandate was a Republican proposal. Affordable Healthcare may or may not be a right; it certainly is needed. As one who has had employer paid health insurance with some of my jobs and not with others, I understand how expensive it can be to self insure and go without coverage. Let's work together to find a way to help all people live healthy, happy lives. I like the idea of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and I think affordable healthcare for all would be a good way to achieve that goal.

TJ| 4.8.10 @ 8:32PM

I keep saying Republicans eat their own babies. In the last three years I have never seen such a feeding frenzy against people in their own party. The issue of RINOs for example makes no sense to me. There should be no purist Republican or Democrat in a two-party system. It is laughable on its face. Of course are going to have more liberal and more conservative wings in that same party in a two party system. Otherwise in order to really represent the country we would need more parties. Lots more. Instead we are seeing a idealistic attempt at a purge of Republicans which would simply leave the party less than it is. The best a Republican is ever going to be able to do in Massachusetts is Scott Brown and Mitt Romney. So if you want the North East you pay to play. This is like politics 101 people.

While it may be true more of the people state they are conservative, as these comments point out being conservative is in the eyes of the beholder. Just because 50 percent say they are conservative doesn't mean they believe what you believe. Some of the stuff I am reading is the most juvenile bull-honkey I have ever seen. This is certainly not the movement I grew up with and learned to respect even thought of joining. You win majorities by having ideas that solve problems. And there are problems.

Margie| 4.8.10 @ 9:03PM

You are correct. And as a matter of fact there are Authord here who call themselves conservative but are not. They are Isolationists, aka Paleo-conservatves, and they post articles to stir up Republicans amongst one another. They want us to vote for a third party candidate or only vote for a Ron Paul type candidate who they consider a "true" conservative, because he's an Isolationist as well.

If you do a bit of research, what the Ron Paul and Rand Paul Isolationists want to do is to take over the Republican party with their ilk. They register Republican but won't vote for a Republican except an Isolationist.
They constantly put down the Republican party, and its members and accuse us of being "RINOS" and all of that garbage.
They love the dissension that they cause.
This thread is an example of what I speak of!
I am sick and tired of the BS!
We all know that we need to VOTE for conservatives in the Republican party and that is how we will win. Don't fall for the third party lie. If you are a conservative then work to restore the party to its roots. We are a 2 party nation. The Democrats are Communists. The choice is clear. IF we want to win.

RINOS BEGONE!| 4.9.10 @ 3:25AM

RINO TJ. We ran a RINO in 2008--how did that work out for you?

Americans won't elect democrat-lite when they can elect the real thing. We MUST strengthen the Republican party or we don't stand a chance.
Democrats are sneaky liars and unless we stand for rock solid CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES we will lose.

NO MORE RINOS!

TJ| 4.9.10 @ 8:40AM

Honestly, I don't if I can be in a movement with RINOS BEGONE here. I grew in moderate Pennsylvania. I don't do demagogues sorry. There are 42 million registered independents of which I am one. I am conservative on some issues and libertarian on others. Polls shows only about half of registered independents lean conservative when asked about particular issues. Meanwhile there were 55 million registered Democrats and only 44 million registered Republicans. Do that math, your RINO --my-way-or-the-highway scenario is political suicide for the party. You push people out of the party because of your purism and you will be left with less people than you already have. The party has already been branded racist, backward, and unhinged by the press. I would say good luck with that but it would leave the Democratic party with indefinite majorities so I can't. Your party is shrinking and unless you would like to start another third party you might want to reconsider your rabid hatred of your fellow conservatives. There are fiscal conservatives and there are social conservatives. Some fiscals are socially liberal and some socials are fiscally liberal. Your one way world view isn't helping the party. Your 10 million registered voter gap is probably getting bigger. Assuming independents are mostly conservatives is foolish. Gawd. I am done with y'all.

TROLLS BEGONE!| 4.9.10 @ 7:04PM

Don't let the door hit 'ya where the good Lord split 'ya, liberal moron.

We're going to wipe the floor with you stinkin' demonrats in November.

November 2, 2010--Save the date lying liberals, we have!

TJ LIES!| 4.9.10 @ 7:07PM

Nice try, nice lie, TJ. 40% of Americans are CONSERVATIVE and ONLY 20% are LIBERAL.

Nasty, lying troll--BEGONE!

Bill Crews| 4.8.10 @ 3:32PM

Senator Cornyn is one of my senators. I just spoke to his office in Houston & was told that Senator Cornyn DOES support full repeal of the obamanation's health care bill.

We'll be watching!!!!!

TerrySuominen | 4.8.10 @ 3:39PM

There are many writers here in support of voting out incumbents. I agree, but we need to go one step further, we need term limits for those who are elected to represent "we the people".

As a public servant you are not elected to pursue your own agenda. You are elected to be the voice of those who elected you plain and simple.

Congress was never intended to be an institution were one gets elected and then passes laws where they remain in power only to receive millions in benefits once they leave office. This has got to stop.

Why does it take 25 million dollars to win a campaign that pays 172 thousand dollars? Why does it that 50 million to win a seat that pays 400 thousand a year salary?

As citizens of these United States we must stand up now and unite to take back our Country from corrupt politicians and return the power to the States and the citizens as the Constitution stipulates.

Our elected officials must be for the American Citizens and not for the party. Our problems are not problems of the Dems, Repubs, they are not the problems of one religious faction, nor one race or creed, they are the problems of Americans and as soon as we understand that we can take control of Congress and start to represent the people once again by voting in citizens who will work for the Amercan people and not special interest.

We need to elect individuals that will go to Washington to stop the corruption and actually work for those who elected them, their constituents.

We the people have created the mess in DC because we keep voting in the scoundrels that do not attempt to work to uphold the Constitution. The time has come to replace them with common citizens who have the interest of those who elect them at heart.

This election year will be a historical event. We are at the crossroads where we decide the direction our Country will follow. More of the same with career politicians or a new path with individuals that will represent us and our wishes.

Time will tell as we approach these elections across the Nation. History is on the side of the American Patriots watch and see.

Jeanne| 4.8.10 @ 7:16PM

Terry,
Your observations about the cost of a campaign to get elected to public office are right on! We need to take the money out of politics. We need to have public funding of elections and limits on how much is spent. Linking our representatives to huge pots of money only makes them vulnerable to being bought. In states where public funding of elections has been established, a different mix of people are running for public office. Who has or gets the most money is not the way to elect our representatives.

Dai Alanye | 4.8.10 @ 7:55PM

By all means let government decide (through public funding) who may run for office. What a wonderful collectivist notion.

VN Vet| 4.8.10 @ 9:04PM

Right on Dai, Jeanne sounds like a commie.

Nobama| 4.9.10 @ 3:27AM

That's how Obummer got elected-he lied and cheated his way through illegal campaign donations to get there.

victor| 4.8.10 @ 8:43PM

Who are you and what do you stand for?
I went to your website and found nothing past the usual lower spending, lower taxation and lower regulation that other conservatives are running on.
What makes you special and why should anyone vote for you?
Are you running as a third party to spite the Republicans?
That line item veto and balanced budget amendment won't get anywhere if Pelosi is still the speaker.
What do you offer besides a protest vote.
We had one of your sort run in New Jersey.
Turned out he was a stalking horse for the democrat governor. An "independent" liberal republican.
What say you?
Are you one of those?

Elaine S| 4.8.10 @ 3:44PM

As a senior I submit there are "Death Panels". Dr.Ezikiel Emanuel advised "those under 15 or over 40 have less to contribute to society. As sleep inducing as it is read the bills-see the sneaky things inserted(i.e. college funds , and who gets to get it) . It serves their purpose to get rid of those who remember history and can argue that they are liars, also they dont have to pay out what was suposed to be in a "Lock Box"-that has been raided and robbed. We did not choose to pay into this system-medicare has been paid into for 42years-on my part -60 years for SS-and by the way as Mom and Pop operaters-we paid the employee and employer parts. The taxes were unbearable, any saved money long gone. They come for us, and what makes you think your not next? Want an eye opener? Read "Principles for Allocation of Scarce Medical Intervention" then pick out who you want to deny help.

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Republicans Against Repeal « Depravity links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…on federal power is conservative. Ronald Reagan should have raised taxes to conserve the Great Society and shouted, “Mr. Gorbachev, remember and reform that wall!” via The American Spectator : Republicans Against Repeal. This entry was posted on April 8, 2010 at 7:49 pm and is filed under Uncategorized. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response,…

Osamas Pajamas| 4.8.10 @ 3:50PM

So in other words --- in order to "do the right thing" --- we have to defeat the gxddam Democrats --- and the Democrat-captured media --- and the Democrat-captured Republicans. Pxss on these so-called Republicans who have just lost their balls.

batman| 4.8.10 @ 4:05PM

Cornyn is a loser--he's backing, or was at last count, Crist in Florida. Down the middle moderate/RINO. No guts in that guy!

Martin j smith| 4.8.10 @ 4:07PM

There is a need for 'cool heads" but not "no heads " My sense is that there are reasons that Rinos claim to be weary of repeal or an other Left agenda item. There is always an excuse. As others have said, the Republican Party leadership should be advised that efforts will be made to unseat Rinos just as i they were Democrat Party members. As far as I am concered they are.

Michael Adams| 4.8.10 @ 4:07PM

I spoke, in a reply above, about the problem with bureaucratic medicine. Yes, it's a nightmare where it already exists. However, here is another problem that we have with Obamacare, right now, long before the "benefits" take effect. Here just two examples, among many. Any time that anyone tries to talk about problems with any "entitlement", the Democrats start to bleat, "They're trying to take away your Social Security", or whatever troubled program is under discussion. For example, SCHIP has rather generous income limits. If my State, Texas, had continued to allow everyone under the limit set in Federal law to participate in SCHIP, I would be subsidizing, with my taxes, health insurance for the children of people who make twice my annual income. Nevertheless, Democrats still refer to the "Legislature's inability to fund health care for the children of Texas." Turning what I own into largess distributed by politicians gives them a cruel advantage over the people who pay those politician's salaries.

Here would be a good place to discuss what they have done with our retirement money. Seventy three years ago, when the economically illiterate Roosevelt Administration got the Congress to pass Social Security, they made a very deliberate decision to pay out from what they took in. Insurance already existed, and, if you bought a whole life policy, you would eventually be paid up, and, if you retired, you'd get income from that policy. (There are better ways to go, now, but we are talking about 1937.) The only thing that distinguishes SS from a Ponzi scheme is that the marks know what is being done to them, unlike the victims of Democrat fund-raiser Madoff, for example. However, five years ago, when Republicans tried, albeit feebly, to phase out the Ponzi system and replace it, over several decades, with an investment plan, like Galveston County employees have, the Democrats terrified senior citizens with the warning cry,"They're trying to take away your Social Security." As it happens, I was too old, even then, to benefit from such a change. My son, OTOH, was not. That is why the Health Takeover bill is such a monstrosity. No, it does not reduce the deficits. They fed the CBO garbage numbers to get out the result that they wanted. Even the CBO report had numerous caveats in it. No, of course it will not improve health care or make it more affordable. Virtually anyone who works in health care knows that. Yes, it will bankrupt private insurance. They admit that, in other contexts. Yes, bureaucracies are not as innovative, not as efficient. Yes, our real life-expectancy rates are better than the rest of the world's, unless you cook the books by counting differently. But, the very worst thing is the power that this monstrosity gives to venal politicians. That is why they must be stopped. Remember in November. And remember in 2012 any Republican who flinches in his or her duty.

Rob| 4.8.10 @ 4:11PM

And to think the Republicans want our votes in November...I'm so sick of this crap....The Republicans have learned NOTHING!!! The Progressive left screws everything up then the GOP comes out with tough talk for 30 seconds then hides in the corner at the sight Nancy with her gavel. Both parties SUCK! I'm throwing my vote away on 3rd parties. Everyone in Washington needs to go and we need term limits. The GOP won't do anything to undo O'bummer's mess, we're just stuck with it. The Repubs are nothing more than Democrat lite.

W.P. Koch| 4.8.10 @ 4:11PM

WHAT `SHOULD HAPPEN

Congress and the White House should stop squandering the people’s money first and improve quality of basic invested entitlements. No new taxes. Congress should stop vote bribery and restart to reconfigure healthcare. Citizens come first. Vote opponents to this “out”.
It is time the U.S. limits its human rites and military policeman for the World by lobbying the United Nations and NATO to “take on more”. 800 bases across the world should be reduced. Starting with Iraq, remove most troops in 2010 and continue consulting for self reliance. After a surge in Afghanistan repeat, remove corruption and substitute same value food crops for drugs. Reduce forces in selected areas such as Germany, Bosnia and Okinawa.
Cut bureaucracy. Combine CDC, EPA and FDA. Combine the FAA, NHTSA and Transportation Department. No CZARS Mr. president.
Contribute to only one of: The World Bank or International Monetary Fund.
Reduce foreign aid. For example, no aid to oil rich -Iraq.
Reduce the “stimulus” by halting ridiculous earmarks. The earmark cost to date is nearly 3 billion!
Please- no private or military jets for congress including Pelosi’s family at taxpayer expense. The leaders should set travel standards and control expenses.
Stop the “bailout”. “To big to fail” is obsolete. No more executive bonuses of losing companies at taxpayer expense.
Reduce medical costs by; insurance buying anywhere in U.S., “tort reform”, and limiting “red tape”.
Enforce immigration laws. Entitlements or benefits are for citizens. Deport criminal “illegals”. Workers with visas should receive only needed medical benefits.
Improve medical expense tax deduction for citizens reaching age 65. Provide employer tax reduction incentives for company healthcare.
Full funding will support “Medicaid”,” Medicare”, and “Veteran’s Affairs”.
Healthcare quality should be at least that for Congress or the Federal Employee Health Benefits Program (FEHBP). A result: no drug “benefit hole”, dental coverage, improved visual coverage and no co-pays except for extended skilled level nursing.
The savings can also aid unemployment compensation, and stabilize Social Security.

Jeanne| 4.8.10 @ 7:23PM

When you say, "enforce immigration laws", I hope you include, arrest and fine business owners who, in order to make bigger profits, knowingly hire illegal immigrants at less than legal rates of pay.

NO LIBS!| 4.9.10 @ 3:28AM

And prosecute illegals who break our laws.

W.P.KOCH| 4.10.10 @ 3:26PM

Right on!

W.P. KOCH| 4.10.10 @ 3:28PM

Right on!

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GOP leadership waffling on full Obamacare repeal campaign platform; Chinese have 60 b links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…April 8, 2010 The Republican leadership can sure talk a big game but when it comes time take a stand and go campaign on it they waffle almost as much as John Kerry. GOP leaders like Sen. John Cornyn are advocating campaigning on repealing only the “non-controversial” provisions of Obamacare. Thankfully, conservatives like Rep. Steve King and Sen. Jim DeMint aren’t going along with such a…

mangrovemama2002| 4.8.10 @ 4:38PM

Republican leadership is an oxymoron.

I was disgusted when Corker conceded defeat last week.

I am gratified that he beat Harold Ford, Jr., but he has been an awful Senator (a TARP bailout monkey, for starters).

I hope that a conservative runs against him in 2012.

the Shrike| 4.8.10 @ 4:40PM

How about repeal and REPLACE this quagmire with a GOOD bill implemented in the light of day after everyone has read and FULLY UNDERSTANDS it ? You know, a process that attempts to follow the original spirit of the Constitution if not letter of the law.

Stop all the lobbying and loop hole governing GOD DAMN IT!

Based on the past performance of the government mandated entitlements/services etc.... it is absolutely criminally insane for any person to believe or propose that this bill will not be the tipping point and BANKRUPT our nation.

And why can't we have a Constitutional Party?

NO MORE RINOS!| 4.8.10 @ 4:47PM

A third party will ensure our defeat--WE MUST STRENGTHEN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!

NO MORE RINOS!

Raving Rabbi| 4.8.10 @ 4:43PM

How about some catchy phrase like, "Peel away the best, repeal the rest!" In other words, we can run against the monster while keeping his copper toenails.
Republicans hung together for a reason, I assume, on health care - partly they didn't trust the source of the reform, partly they didn't trust the intention, and partly they didn't like the actual details of the bill. To throw their arms in the air and say - as David Frum would have them do - "We lost!," is totally absurd (especially since they knew going in that they'd most likely lose).
At the very least, we need to hand the American People a scorecard and say, "If in 3 years, premiums go up and not down, we were right. If in 6 years, over 10 million people get moved from employer-based insurance to Exchanges, and 20 million in 10 years, we were right. If in 10 years, your choice of doctors is limited, we were right. If in 10 years, your doctor's choices of how to treat you is limited by a government panel, we were right. If in 12 years, the government is rationing for the elderly, and in 15 years for the rest of us, we were right. Etc., etc."
While I much prefer repeal (Besides being bad for the country, ObamaCare is terrible for me personally: I'm 50, in 15 years they'll be rationing my care - so, I'll get all the negatives, none of the positives.), at least let the people truly comprehend how that loveable government program plant in the corner can - and invariably does - turn into an insatiable man-eater.

Brent | 4.8.10 @ 4:54PM

Any business that can receive income for 6 years
and not pay any expenses is a dream, however the GAO could never have indicated 1 113 B benefit in 10 years without, if run like a business and without the 565B from SS it 1.3 T to 1.7 T in the red and when has any program stayed within budget, isn't the average overrun begin at 10X
the initial estimate, this article is disappointing
and short-sighted, this is why the White House
is the Red House, when you can't tell the difference, why would you vote for a RINO,
I have more respect for Spector, acknowledging what he's always been, a liberal politician who will tell you what you want to hear to get elected
only to act completely different in congress. Democrats, should not be the only ones worried in November, every liberal leaning Republican better look over their shoulder because they are being targeted also.

Just a modification is not enough, a message has to be send that actual solutions, not economic takeovers are required. A repeal would send a message that is no longer business as usual,
when the bill is a dodge from TORT reform,
imigration enforcement, Medical ID cards for
legal residents, multi-state medical insurance competition...etc. This non-sense by people
who obligate the country to unsupportable debt,
restrictive energy policies and masterey of
obfuscating rhetoric must come to an end.
Every 30 years we must learn again why the democrats shouldn't be in the hen house. It's not their money, they are supposed to the servant sof the people and society not societal takeover specialists, like the NAZI's, and Stalinistic Russia.

If the writer of this article does believe this hyprocrisy should be ok, do us all a favor and resign, because its clear you aren't connecting the dots.

GT| 4.8.10 @ 4:51PM

Hey folks,
Maybe the Republicans don't support your views because you're so far from the American mainstream, that to do so would be political suicide.

NO TROLLS!| 4.9.10 @ 7:09PM

We ARE the mainstream, dumbass. Get over it.

Keith Wilson| 4.8.10 @ 4:57PM

I voted for Corker, that lying b@$^ard! sorry I need to take a bath. I feel dirty. Then it is time for all of these "so-called" conservitives to go out the door with the rest of the trash! How can you stand there and see the reaction to this leviathan of a bill and say, "Oh well, life goes on.", and call yourself a conservitive! Well I for one call BS on them and their scum. They are worse then any liberal because they are enemies from within. Read Cicero, he warns about enemies inside your gates. ugh! just disgusted

Ryykk| 4.8.10 @ 4:57PM

Well it did not take the Republican leadership long to betray the American people. I joined the Republican party in Regan's run for the White House. I came form a long line of Democrats. I may need to find another party.

I feel that we have reached the end of the American Republic. It seems that all of Congress is so corrupt that they feel they can get away with anything.

I am not alone and millions of Americans are fed up with the status quo. The heat that is growing may just be a shock in November to both parties. Perhaps a third party will finally become transcendant.

It may be time for the second American Revolution. I hope it is peaceful. I know so many people who are angry for the first time in their adult lives at being betrayed by the current government. No one is listening to them and it seems our representatives are working hard to ignore their voters.

Why is the Washington establishment deliberately destroying the financial wealth of our nation? Is there no one who passed basic arithmetic or economics?

Dan| 4.8.10 @ 5:28PM

Sadly, this column is all too acurate. Republicans are not going to help us. We need TERM LIMITS and demand that Congress is PROHIBITED from exempting itself from any legislation that it imposes on the people. We need Independent Candidates with a spine and some patriotism, but where are they? Do they even exist? Our politicians are destroying us and we appear to be helpless to stop it. Is that the case?

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Republicans links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…federal finances; and thousands of pork barrel projects designed to reelect the very politicians who voted for all of the aforementioned programs and policies. Now, the truth about Republicans. Republicans Against Repeal Kirk noted "a sliver of good things in the bill which Republicans agreed with." Judging from the similarities between the new national health care regime and the Massachusetts bill Republican…

David| 4.8.10 @ 5:37PM

Rob, the answer is not a third party. The answer is for repubs to pay attention early in ALL of the primary races and make darn sure the most conservative candidates ends up representing the repubs in the general election. I too am fed up with many of the repubs, but let's get rid of those.

I will say that Palin has lost a lot of respect from me for actually working hard out campaigning with McCain. She ought to be out campaigning for all of the true conservatives who decided to get into politics for the first time this election cycle. And the tea party folks had better see her support of McCain for what it is and vote for Hayworth. Stop it Palin - stop it now - your time is much better spent elsewhere.

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Alan Rodgers | 4.8.10 @ 6:01PM

You know, this is weird to read. Until I saw it, that tea-party-as-third-party stuff didn't speak to me at all.

If the Republicans don't make an honest effort to repeal this crap with the majorities they're going to get in November, we DO need another party.

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Alan| 4.8.10 @ 7:12PM

Anyone in Arizona who still wants to vote for John McBozo who has betrayed us time and time again needs to have their head submitted for a Ted Kennedy posthumous pre-frontal lobotomy. Ditto anyone who is willing to vote for the girlfriend of the ILLEGALS and the citizen punishing Janice Brewer just because Terry Gutless Goddard, an Obama hack is running against her. Both of them are RINOs, period.

As for Palin, she needs to go back home, stop killing animals and take her bimbo Bristol out to the woodshed. She lost me almost a year ago - Michele Bachmann is much more a class act, and certainly much more intelligent than Sarah, Janice, McBozo and all their Dem friends. Including the Muslim Commie appeaser monkey.

Michael L. Hauschild| 4.8.10 @ 7:16PM

More like Republicans against serving on committees, taking junkets, franking, oh ya, and getting elected.

bluecollarbytes| 4.8.10 @ 7:18PM

The Republican Party will lose this independent guy's consistent vote for the Republican if Republican careerists decide to go along with Obamacare. It's said a third party vote is a waste, and I agree. But if I'm going to waste a vote either way on something as huge as fedcare, I'd rather do it on principle, not to reassure politicians.

Ray| 4.8.10 @ 7:23PM

The only time that your vote is wasted is when you vote for a candidate who has consistently lied to you, cheated you, enslaved you and taxed you for decades with no end in sight.............Vote third party.

Ray| 4.8.10 @ 7:23PM

The only time that your vote is wasted is when you vote for a candidate who has consistently lied to you, cheated you, enslaved you and taxed you for decades with no end in sight.............Vote third party.

TROLLS BEGONE!| 4.9.10 @ 3:32AM

That's what you democrats should have done when Obama lied to you, cheated you, enslaved you and taxed you for decades with no end in sight.
Don't waste your vote, democrats.
DEMOCRATS VOTE THIRD PARTY!!

Ray| 4.8.10 @ 7:20PM

If you want your vote to count then vote third party.
If you enjoy being lied too and pi$$$ed on at the same time, then vote republican and democrap. If you like being enslaved by your government, then vote republican and democrap. If you believe that the Constitution is the law that keeps government in check, then vote Libertarian.

NCMike| 4.8.10 @ 8:28PM

If you are 16 years old this might make sense to you. If you can read history or have seen it up close and personal, you should be aware the Perot's candidacy resulted in Clinton's election; John Anderson's candidacy resulted in Carter's election. Gene McCarthy's candidacy resulted in Nixon's election. If you believe that "voting" is your chance to stroke your ego and "let your voice be heard" you are doing nothing but playing with yourself. If you want to clean house, don't waste your time on a loser to make a point. You'll be living with the result for years. If the collectivist, state controlled economy is your cup of tea, continue to vote for Democrats or waste your vote on third party self deception. If you want those villains out, vote Republican. You can make a difference in who runs AS a Republican by participating in the Primary, contributing money and time. Don't be a victim; don't be a child. Be an adult, take charge, THINK, and act effectively. It's time to grow up.

Margie| 4.8.10 @ 9:09PM

Thank you!
Grow up. Or take your toys home and hide while the adults try to take the country back from the Communists.

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Conservative Donnybrook » Blog Archive » Today’s radicalism will be next year’s conse links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…is Conservatism? What the hell? Subscriptions RSS Today’s radicalism will be next year’s conservatism, part 9,756 Posted by Mike on Apr 8th, 2010 2010 Apr 8 Check the American Spectator for more on why the GOP is as useless as Cialis at an Indigo Girls concert. Let’s see, GM, Chrysler, AIG, health “insurance,” increasing federalization of local police forces (wanna see my new…

George True| 4.8.10 @ 7:46PM

All this third party talk is nonsense. There is a perfectly workable solution. And that is for each of us to get in the trenches in our own state and district and make sure that as many tea party endorsed candidates as possible win in Republican primaries and in the general election this year. If we can focus on that one thing for the next seven months, that will further the cause of repealing O-care far more than any amount of ranting at squishy Republicans will do.

There are two things going on here. One is the obvious - RINO's with no spine are beginning to back away from the concept of repeal. That was entirely predictable. Again, the solution is to elect as many real conservative Republicans as possible in November, ones who have grit, vision, and determination. They will strengthen the spine of the squishy Repubs, especially if they control the house. No need for a third party - just take back our Republican party.

But the other thing that is going on is something that Texican alluded to. Some canny Repubs are finally learning not to lead with their chin. It is a foregone conclusion that any Republican who campaigns this year on a platform of repealing the bill is going to be attacked relentlessly by the state-run media. They will attempt to paint the would-be repealers as far-right, lunatic-fringe kooks. Look at the considerable success the MSM had with marginalizing completely logical and rational people as "birthers". Besides, what can any Republican do about repealing the bill right now? Absolutely nothing. So why run their mouth about it and telegraph their move? Instead, if they focus on winning in November without paionting a target on their back by declaring themselves to be a "repealer", then starting next January, with a Republican controlled house, there is much they can begin to do to stall the funding and thus the implementation of O-care. Then we repeat the process in 2012, and hopefully at that time, if Obama is a one-termer, the actual repeal of the bill can be completed.

In the meantime we need to just cool our jets and quietly roll up our sleeves and get to work. Volunteer for the conservative candidate in your district. If your district is already golden, go work on behalf of the conservative in the next district over. Give $20 to as many of the money bombs for conservatives around the country as you can afford to. But above all, get to work right in your own backyard. What we accomplish (or fail to accomplish) in the next seven months will be critical. If we can focus successfully on this one task for 2010, everything else will begin to take care of itself. Don't get mad - get to work and get even.

Margie| 4.8.10 @ 9:18PM

This is exactly correct and where I stand as well. Do NOT let the Leftists in disguise as conservatives divide us. We need to back conservatives who run in the party and make sure to back them financially and by word of mouth.
This post is the bottom line truth.
Thanks, Mr. True.

Margie| 4.8.10 @ 9:18PM

This is exactly correct and where I stand as well. Do NOT let the Leftists in disguise as conservatives divide us. We need to back conservatives who run in the party and make sure to back them financially and by word of mouth.
This post is the bottom line truth.
Thanks, Mr. True.

Defeat RINOs| 4.8.10 @ 7:48PM

Cooler heads? No, softer heads.

We will have to weed out the weak, soft fail-to-perform Senators and Congresscritters as best we can.

Ray is wrong of course. 3rd party will just get Democrats elected. The RIGHT way is to primary the RINOs - this is why Marco Rubio and JD Hayworth are so important, and so is Pat Toomey. IF WE SUCCEED, we will have replaced 3 RINOs with 3 Conservatives ... up next - Grahamnesty.

Polls are showing a possible 48-50 Republicans in the next Senate ... another strong cycle in 2012 and we could be back to 55 ... then the question will be - will we govern as we ran? What is our mandate? We either are for Big Freedom and Limited Government or Big Government and Limited Freedom. No other way.

VN Vet| 4.8.10 @ 9:08PM

"What is our mandate? We either are for Big Freedom and Limited Government or Big Government and Limited Freedom. No other way."

An excellent way to put it!

victor| 4.8.10 @ 9:52PM

"What is our mandate?"

Our vote is our mandate and so is our voice.
We need to remind them of that if and when they stray.
We need to continue to call, fax and email them with the following:
We the People put you into the Congress and We the People can take you out.
The problem is that once they get there they forget why they are there.
They are beholden to the Constitution first and to US the second.
We get the government we deserve, it has been said, if we are asleep or apathetic.
We can neither afford to be either one in these perilous times.
"We the People" still rings as true today as it did when it was written 223 years ago.
Primaries are coming up.
Are you going to do the Right thing?

NCMike| 4.8.10 @ 8:18PM

The liberal "ringers" are out in force with their typical distractions and nonsense. If you put any stock in the moral relativist drivel they're spewing, they've won. Here's the drill: it's simple. If you believe in American values of individualism, liberty, and private property, act on it. Pay no mind to the blowhards on this site. Just do it yourself. Write to your rep and Senator if you disagree with his policies. Tell him you'll support his opponent with a vote and campaign cash. Send $25 to the conservative candidate in the primary. Vote in the primary and then on Nov. 2nd. Predictions, ignorant opinions, and liberal distractions are relevant only to children. Be an adult. Pay attention. Communicate. Take charge. Do something. Support conservative candidates with cash in places where they can win. I sent $25 to McDonnell, Christie, and Brown. Think about it. I've sent $25 to Rubio (FL), Hayworth (AZ), and DeVore (CA). We can win this if we do something instead of simply adding ignorant opinions on a web site. Show up to a Tea Party on 4/15. Be a witness. Be counted. It's ours to win.

Etiquette Man| 4.8.10 @ 8:26PM

Hear, hear!!!

Purpleguy| 4.8.10 @ 9:43PM

What about the Tea Party? How can we ignore our principles?

Trolls Begone!| 4.9.10 @ 3:34AM

Go home, Purple Balls! What would a liberal moron like you know about principles?

Nothing!

purpleguy| 4.9.10 @ 8:13PM

You idiot - the Declaration of Independence was a progressive document with the principles of our new nation spelled out. The right wing does not own this country, they are not the real patriots, they are backward, reactionary, bumper sticker mentals that don't understand America = Progress ... so get on board or be left behind.

Etiquette Man| 4.8.10 @ 8:24PM

I remain baffled by strong conservatives like Rush who remain convinced that the only path to a conservative renaissance runs through the RINO-GOP. Much as all Dems are liberals at base, so are most repubs RINO's deep down.

Margie| 4.8.10 @ 9:15PM

Baloney. Rush is realistic. He knows we have a 2 party country so he knows that's the way to go. If you said hear! hear! to N C Mike's comment, then you are in agreement with Rush. The conservative candidates in his post are~~Republicans! THAT is where the run!
So, why the Rush bashing?

Nobama| 4.9.10 @ 3:36AM

EM--a third party will destroy us; that's how Billy BJ Clinton got in office. Shudder!
We must strengthen our own party!

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The American Spectator : Republicans Against Repeal links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

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VN Vet| 4.8.10 @ 8:59PM

The simple fact is, and it's extremely regretful, but elected republicans are COWARDS!!!!! They don't have the courage that's required to take our culture and our country back. If it eventually takes a civil war or revolution to take it back, the gutless repubiks will be as much to blame as the leftist media.

dennis | 4.8.10 @ 9:06PM

what would you expect from a party that can not even get ride of Steele.
May be, it is time for a third (tea) party.

Nobama| 4.9.10 @ 3:37AM

NO THIRD PARTY--UNLESS IT'S A DEMOCRAT THIRD PARTY!

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victor| 4.8.10 @ 9:37PM

Oliver Garland?
Who the Bloody heck is Oliver Garland?

That link goes to David Frum's alleged "conservative" website where you are greeted by the facha brute of Steven Colburt.

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I, for one, am giving up Antelism for Lent. And maybe til the next millennium.

"I hereby renounce my membership now and forever more."

If you think that voting against the Republican party and for alleged third or fourth parties is the answer, then you best stay home and leave the voting to the grown ups.
There are plenty of Conservatives out there to vote for. I heard one such man this morning on the Bennett program: Lieutenant Allen West who is running for Congress as a Republican.
Here is one race where Sarah makes the Right Choice!
http://allenwestforcongress.com/featured/695/

He told Bill Bennett that there are other ex military men who are running for office.
Let's find them and support them.

One more time, but not the last time, America is a two party country.
If you are insistent upon voting for a "third" party, you should move to a country that supports it, such as Canada, France or Germany.
One thing though, you will never be Canadian, German or French.
Stay here and you will always be an American.
Voting for the Right Party or the Wrong Party.
There is no middle or third way.
Only thing in the middle of the road here are dead skunks or those who couldn't make up their minds.

The Republican Party was started by Christians who wanted to outlaw Slavery. They were fought by the Party that favored Slavery, Segregation and Jim Crow Laws.
PS the Dred Scott decision was decided by democrat judges.

I know not what course other voters will take, but Give me Republicans or give me
death-ocrats!
That is, Republicans that were and still are Radical and not the striped pants, country club blue bloods that hijacked the Party sometime in the last century.

If I were able to, I would contribute to Allen West and to all of the Allen Wests that are running.
Til I can, I can let people know that there are principled men out there to vote for.
And not some limp wristed nonnie on the third or fourth or even lower party down the food chain.
PPS we had some 10 or 12 of these bottom dwellers that wanted to be the Governor.
Vote for these and you will throw your vote away and insure that Obama is reelected, and perish the thought Speaker Pelosi, will return in 2010 and 2012.
Just don't expect me to be silent or go along while you thirders slit your wrists and expect us to applaud you for it.

victor| 4.8.10 @ 9:38PM

Oops, forgot these two links for Lt Col West

http://allenwestforcongress.com/
http://www.redcounty.com/“tragedy-ft-hood”

victor| 4.8.10 @ 9:39PM

http://www.redcounty.com/“tragedy-ft-hood”

Purpleguy| 4.8.10 @ 9:40PM

How else will a Third Party exist, if we don't ignore you and press ahead with our principles?

victor| 4.8.10 @ 9:41PM

Principles?
What principles does a "third"party have?

TROLLS BEGONE!| 4.9.10 @ 3:39AM

Purple Balls is a troll--ignore the loser.

victor| 4.8.10 @ 9:40PM

http://www.redcounty.com/tragedy-ft-hood

Blacque Jacques Shellacque| 4.8.10 @ 9:57PM

Note to the Republican Party: You people are supposed to be the opposition. Start acting like it. if you can't, get the $@#! out of the way.

Damn worthless idiots.

murph | 4.8.10 @ 10:08PM

So nice to see the political right eating themselves.

It's been a long time coming... but you guys earned it.

victor| 4.8.10 @ 10:25PM

Interesting that you parrot the progressive talking point of how the "rich" don't pay taxes.
10% pay 70% of the taxes in this country and 47% of taxpayers either don't pay any taxes or get credits, i.e. transfer payments from the government.
70 Million taxpayers don't pay a dime!
Defend that.

PS if a CEO took payments for four years before delivering a product or service, they'd be in JAIL!
Why are we paying taxes for ten years but not seeing any "healthcare" for four years, eh?

PPS you better get ready for the "bloodbath" at the polls this November.
Repeal The Bill!
Repeal the Democrats!

murph | 4.9.10 @ 4:36PM

victor,

I don't know if 70 million Americans pay no taxes, but I'd be interested to see a source and know why those people don't pay taxes.

I'd also be interested to hear a defense of why Bank of America and Wells Fargo will pay less income taxes than I do. (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/03/26/91119/bank-of-america-wells-fargo-might.html)

I'd also be interested to know why taxes on the upper income tiers are the only ones going down over time (http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/110.jpg and detail at http://wonkroom.thinkprogress......ax-burden/)

As far as taking payments without delivering a product or service - I'd like to introduce you to the concept of insurance. As in, you can pay a premium for decades without seeing much of anything.

The recent health care legislation will increase the odds that if you did file a claim, you might get some money back.

Your freakout suggest that your taxes are going up - but the individual mandate tax doesn't start until 2014 - so perhaps you have a problem with chronology.

Nobama| 4.9.10 @ 3:43AM

Hey, Murph--be careful what you wish for, moron--you just might get it. We're gonna take you drooling idiot fascist liberals with us.

LOL!

Obie Wan| 4.8.10 @ 10:18PM

Glenn Beck's right, progressives while dominant in the Democrap party are very much intertwined in the GOP also. I'm not sure the existing GOP would ever reform, much less reverse any of the existing socialist programs including the newly passed Obamacare that are bleeding this country to death. Just to make one significant point about the health care passed in Massachusetts by Mitt Romney and supported by then state senator Scott Bown,as I see it, the Mass health plan while certainly socialist in spirit, would not have been a violation of the Constitution had federal funds not been needed to implement it, and Washington SHOULD have refused to spend any federal money on the Massachusetts experiment. Beyond this funding, the Constitution upholds the autonomy of individual states rights to pass laws if not violating the Constitution or Bill of Rights to the citizens within their borders !!!

charliebravoNH| 4.8.10 @ 10:28PM

Any new bill when it becomes law is added to the US code. If you change the law, repeal the law or amend the law you are doing the same thing, changing the existing law. If you say you are going to repeal the law and you fail to do it because you don't have the votes to over ride a Presidential veto, you set your self up for failure. The Republicans should run on a new health reform bill in 2012 that the public supports, which would effectively repeal the old one. Start Over.

John Bailo | 4.8.10 @ 10:42PM

Obama didn't push us towards Liberalism with his health care plan -- if anything he helped expand private industry and the healthcare market.

This is something Republicans can get behind -- moving needed capital into the health care sector, creating business opportunity and keeping Government participation at a rational level.

Now that the fight is won, Republicans are getting the job done and helping implement it with business growth.

Obie Wan| 4.8.10 @ 10:58PM

Say what ??? Where the hell did you get that idea? Obama doesn't want ANY private health care market, just a single payer government owned, health care system like Europe and Canada. He just couldn't get it passed at the moment however, he WILL tax and regulate the private healthcare companies until he gets the single payer government socialist health plan he and the American marxists always wanted !!!

Nobama| 4.9.10 @ 3:40AM

Another crack addicted liberal troll.

DEFUND OBAMASCARE!

Bri Guy| 4.8.10 @ 11:12PM

It's a double edged sword here. I am for repeal and forget, not repeal and replace. I want to see RINOs be voted out, but I don't want to sacrifice a RINO to get a democrat liberal. So, we have to be careful here. We need a total overturn of government to Republicans, even if some of them are wolves in sheep clothing.

Jeff Smathers| 4.8.10 @ 11:38PM

I want to get rid of ALL the non-constitutional & non-conservative Republicans & Democrats......
Damned right we are mad! I want Ron Paul to replace Mr. Steele as a Republican representative and be the decider on who 'gets in' and make some bigger waves in our next elections!

Reneeca| 4.8.10 @ 11:49PM

De-fund the HC bill! It is simple and you idiots in Washington don't seem to get it! I sincerely hope Cornyn is in trouble in Texas as I heard him say that Pelosi is a nice woman! He obviously wants to be part of the cocktail circuit at the White House functions so is playing nice with the Democrats! Well, he can stay in the 'In crowd' because he won't be their for very long if I have anything to say about it as my donations and anyone else I know are going to do everything we can to see him and his gutless Republican RHINO"S out of there!!

Nobama| 4.9.10 @ 3:46AM

Oklahoma Senator Tom Coburn said Pelosi is a nice woman. Don't blame that one on Cornyn.

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Bring Conservatism BACK to the Grand Old Party! links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…a weenie libtard is going to point a finger at them and shout “MEANIE”. Case in point: Edward A Schill posted this article on Facebook tonight: From The American Spectator; “Republicans Against Repeal” But in the GOP, cooler heads always prevail. What these Republican heads want to cool down is the campaign to repeal the health care takeover. Reports the Associated Press: “Top…

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Cold Warrior | 4.9.10 @ 1:59AM

If you want to CHANGE the Republican Party, conservatives, you have to get INSIDE IT. Become a voting member of it. At the grass roots level. As a precinct committeeman.
Conservatives, if you UNITE inside the Party, and fill up the HALF of the precinct committeemen slots that are vacant, you will create a solidly conservative party. But that means actually going to a monthly GOP meeting. And maybe getting some signatures on a nominating petition. You know, basic civics stuff.
Find out how here:
www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com
You can't play politics from the bleachers. Get into the real ball game. It's played at local GOP meetings. By precinct committeemen.

Nobama| 4.9.10 @ 3:47AM

EXACTLY!! Great post, CW! Thank you.

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Gold rises on euro zone worries links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

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Yosemeti Sam| 4.9.10 @ 2:57AM

There is a fundamental reason for - PRIMARIES!

Use them or lose them - for weeding out RINOs!

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miles fisher - this must be the place (cover) | sheeshspot.com links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…Man in the Mirror By Michael Jackson? or … Psycho Ex Girlfriend | Horror Society Obamas to Appear on “ American Idol” « Row 2, Seat 4 Elements Song « The Dispersal of Darwin The American Spectator : Republicans Against Repeal 'American Idol': On the scene for Top 9 results night and Big … American Chopper Is Back! | PerezHilton.com Taking the ( Psycho)path… « Postcards from the Pink Green…

Gerald Stephens| 4.9.10 @ 6:29AM

KILLING RINOS...

...in Africa is illegal. Killing rabid RINOS at the polls is both legal and mandatory under the constitution. Some will escape for the moment due to remaining term in office but it must be made indelibly clear they are endangered and will be terminated.

Their public menace, like small pox, must be exterminated.

John| 4.9.10 @ 7:23AM

Republicans might not want to run on repeal but whether or not Republican activists and much more important the Democrats will let them is much more of an open question..Whatever the polls say this measure is popular and ultimately is going to become part of the wallpaper like SS and Medicare. In the short term my guess is the Democrats are going to nationalize the fall elections because they have a compelling story to tell of which the healthcare bill is part and they will use it ruthlessly to throw Republicans on the defensive. The economy is in full recovery mode (don't kid yourselves it is), the democrats have a huge war chest and they will use it to spread a simple message......The Republicans created the greatest mess since Hoover(cue: pics of Bush meltdown etc)......Obama and the Democrats have cleaned it up(cue: pic of stimulus/healthcare/Ledbetter passage) ........Republicans have resisted us all the way (cue: pics of HELL NO, tea parties etc).......Don't let the Republicans mess it up again (fade to quiet music)

Phil Byler| 4.9.10 @ 7:44AM

I did not read a few comments by a few Senate Republicans as reflecting an abandonment of the goal of repealing ObamaCare. While it is good to hector Senate Republicans and indeed all Republican office holders that we cannot lose sight of the need to repeal ObamaCare even though we won't be able to do so effectively until we elect a Republican President, the thought that a discreet, single item such as a law on the treatment of pre-existing conditions may be a good idea does not mean that the rest of the 2,000+ pages of ObamaCare is going to be tolerated. Indeed, part of the folly of ObamaCare is that it is a massive piece of legislation to nationalize 1/6 of the economy when the prudent way to address specific problems in an otherwise excellent current health care system is to pass a specific, discreet law specifically aimed at he problem.

Pat | 4.9.10 @ 8:01AM

This is the very reason Republicans are where they are today. They have proven they are not leaders but followers. When they had the house, senate and house the democrats were making the policy and the republicans went along with everything. The conservatives voters didn't like it then and they sure won't like it now.

TJ| 4.9.10 @ 8:44AM

grew in moderate Pennsylvania. I don't do demagogues sorry. There are 42 million registered independents of which I am one. I am conservative on some issues and libertarian on others. Polls shows only about half of registered independents lean conservative when asked about particular issues. Meanwhile there were 55 million registered Democrats and only 44 million registered Republicans. Do that math, your RINO --my-way-or-the-highway scenario is political suicide for the party. You push people out of the party because of your purism and you will be left with less people than you already have. The party has already been branded racist, backward, and unhinged by the press. I would say good luck with that but it would leave the Democratic party with indefinite majorities so I can't. Your party is shrinking and unless you would like to start another third party you might want to reconsider your rabid hatred of your fellow conservatives. There are fiscal conservatives and there are social conservatives. Some fiscals are socially liberal and some socials are fiscally liberal. Your one way world view isn't helping the party. Your 10 million registered voter gap is probably getting bigger. Assuming independents are mostly conservatives is foolish. Gawd. I am done with y'all.

WM| 4.9.10 @ 9:09AM

Bye bye. Don't let the door hit you and all that. If you ever come back, be sure to define specifically what you mean by "purism" and why it is driving away moderates and be prepared to provide evidence, or I will call BS on you again.

For everyone else: We already HAVE won independents over. Look at the polls. Now we are supposed to change course and woo them? That would be suicide.

WM| 4.9.10 @ 9:13AM

Litmus tests should not be used gratuitously, but repeal has to be your litmus test, and it has to be done now, in the primaries.

http://www.repealit.org/

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» American League Team Notes links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

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Republicans Repel Repeal Effort | www.statehousecall.org links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…take advantage of the unpopularity of Congress’s health care debacle? Maybe not, at least not on the national level, according to one article in The American Spectator, labeled Republicans Against Repeal. Sen. John Cornyn, the Texas Republican who chairs the committee responsible for getting GOP candidates elected to the Senate this fall . . . initially unfurled the “repeal and…

JaimeInTexas| 4.9.10 @ 1:26PM

But, Ron Paul is a kook!

JaimeInTexas| 4.9.10 @ 1:26PM

sarcasm off.

2Gunz, AZ| 4.9.10 @ 1:30PM

Spineless wienies, that's all I can say...voters need to get on these a$$holes and let them know what they expect from them....

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Plumb Bob Blog » …and Why The Republican Party Will Be Replaced By the Tea Party links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…in support of the habitual character assassination from the Democratic party, today we get to see why the Republican party continues to shrink. W. James Antle III at the American Spectator censured Sen. John Cornyn (R, TX), the leader of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, for backing down from “Repeal and Replace” with respect to the Democrats’ shove-it-down-our-throats crap…

CONSERVATIVE VICTORY 2010!!| 4.9.10 @ 7:13PM

DEFUND OBAMASCARE!!

Sharon| 4.9.10 @ 9:19PM

Stand with anybody that stands right, stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong.
Abraham Lincoln

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Southern Republican Leadership Conference kicks off 2012 race | Nascar News Update links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…as it is to the nation’s finances, then conservatives cannot count on Republicans to undo very much of what they routinely denounce and campaign against.” http://spectator.org/archives/2010/04/08/republicans-against-repeal —————————————– I hear another big ri-i-i-i-p in the GOP pup tent. Posted by: 12BarBlues |…

Mark| 4.10.10 @ 9:52AM

This is why there will be civil war.

Cheryl| 4.10.10 @ 10:11AM

Exactly why people are equally angry at BOTH parties. Hypocrisy is a rampant disease in DC (and I might add in state politics), so unless we can find and vote in stellar constitutionalists ( such as Jim Demint ) we are all doomed with this involuntary servitude to the Feds. The search is on....get out there and turn the ship around by working with candidates who will support and defend the Consititution.

Siegfried X| 4.10.10 @ 3:22PM

We really only have ONE party in this country. The real Republican party, Reagan's party, died in the 20th century along with Newt Gingrich's speakership.

Now we have Democrat and Democrat-Lite. The last Republican administration, Bush's, pushed through two Ted-Kennedy approved socialist-programs, campaign finance censorship, and was only stopped from passing amnesty by a voter rebellion. The last republican presidential candidate, McCain, favored all of those, as well as Obama's cap & trade, and wanted a Democrat for his running mate, Joe Lieberman.

LoachDriver| 4.10.10 @ 3:56PM

Looks to me that the portfolios of the RINOs supporting Obamacare should be checked. Big pharma stands to benefit enomously from Obamacare. I wouldn't be surprised if these Rino's have invested heavily in big drug stocks.

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Bring Conservatism BACK to the Grand Old Party! | RedState links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…in fear that a weenie libtard is going to point a finger at them and shout “MEANIE”. Case in point: Edward A Schill posted this article on Facebook tonight: From The American Spectator; “Republicans Against Repeal” But in the GOP, cooler heads always prevail. What these Republican heads want to cool down is the campaign to repeal the health care takeover. Reports the Associated Press: “Top Republicans…

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Bring Conservatism BACK to the Grand Old Party! | RedState links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…in fear that a weenie libtard is going to point a finger at them and shout “MEANIE”. Case in point: Edward A Schill posted this article on Facebook tonight: From The American Spectator; “Republicans Against Repeal” But in the GOP, cooler heads always prevail. What these Republican heads want to cool down is the campaign to repeal the health care takeover. Reports the Associated Press: “Top Republicans…

RuthM| 4.11.10 @ 11:04PM

There's a group on Facebook called "I Bet We Can Find 1,000,000+ People Who Disapprove of the Health Care Bill". Started on 3/15/10, we are now up to almost 1.3 million members. You all sound like very well-spoken passionate individuals, the type we'd like to see join the Facebook group. Interested? Go to http://www.facebook.com/group......0668318969

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Sue| 4.12.10 @ 12:12PM

The fact that Congress has EXCLUDED THEMSELVES AND THEIR FELLOW GOV'T BUDDIES is outrageous and proves their idea that they are superior to the general population. I am disgusted. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR A RINO, especially Romney. Don't try to convince me that the Dems will win. The Republican party HAD BETTER PICK SOMEONE OTHER THAN A RINO!!! NO PROGRESSIVES!

jwhop| 4.13.10 @ 8:51AM

Repeal Cornyn, Corker and the rest of the left's RINO enablers.

tom| 4.13.10 @ 9:17AM

RIGHT ON! jwhop! Cornyn is just another another Texas Redneck that doesn't need to be in politics.

jwhop| 4.13.10 @ 10:05AM

Tom, Cornyn outraged Florida conservatives when he endorsed Charlie Crist for the Florida Senate seat. Establishment RINO republicans have a long history of endorsing other RINO's.

It's long past time Establishment RINO republicans were made an endangered species in the Republican Party...and not let up until they've retired, been defeated by conservatives in primaries or switched parties as Arlen Specter has.

EagleJim| 4.13.10 @ 10:15PM

These Republicans are a bunch of wasted meat. This is exactly what the tea-party is against, namely, the equating of party interests to national interests and the corruption of the entire political class, dems and reps included.

pub| 4.14.10 @ 12:10PM

We better put all paleoconservatives in office if we want to have a decent country to live in. I mean it, you "conservatives" who always beech and moan on the Internet, you have an obligation too. You cheered for Scott Brown. You know you did. Our country isn't just a simply a game to play with liberals. Get serious.

If the Republicans didn't have some alternative agenda, they wouldn't have made a liberal like McCain the candidate. And he wouldn't have picked a unknown woman who had the massive handicap of having an unwed pregnant daughter (that handicapped us all).

Hold your nose if you have to, and fill Congress will paleoconservatives.

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Will America Survive The Two Party System? « This Has Got To Stop! links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…the bill. That is, until the “cooler heads” of the party began to reassert themselves. (see The American Spectator, “Republicans Against Repeal”, http://spectator.org/archives/2010/04/08/republicans-against-repeal ) Now, apparently, the GOP sees that Obama’s healthcare reform actually has some good aspects. So, the question I have been asking myself recently is, if our choices…

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NewsReload links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…of the Republicans, and a real model to show the way. Unfortunately, the GOP is full of cowardly lions, frightened by the menacing straw man and the showy display of a false wizard. They are even now backing away from their pledge to repeal Obamacare. In politics as in warfare, one need be firm; not vicious or Machiavellian, but firm. One does not fight half a war or wage half a campaign. We have a name for…

Texas Jayde| 4.24.10 @ 1:29PM

dear senator cornyn,

your time is limited and soon you will be replaced by a conservative more to the liking of Texans.

sincerely,
a Texas conservative voter

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Listing: 1 of 8 Voted Off | Jumping Anaconda links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

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Tyrone| 10.27.10 @ 10:17PM

Bill O'Reilly is part of a evil that just won't go away WHITE RACISM!The power in this country is in the people! Shamefully misuse of this power is the practice of America! The majority which is white Americans has never believe in America's Constitution nor in equality for all Americans! That the reason America needed a Civil Rights Bill"! This sick behavior is never address properly and with the lack of white leadership will continue for century to come! Fox News has a group of very white and very rich men that have a reason to keep the country hating and divided! They get rich and richer while the have not and the just getting along are fighting each other and hating one another! Americans must wake up and see this attack on President Obama and Democrats is only to keep hate and divide alive. To think that President Obama is under attack when he receive the mess Republicans mess up! While he is trying to clean up Republican mess. He must deal with attack on his citizenship attack on his religion attack of his wife and family. All the name calling and a Republican Party that want him and the country to fail! Just to say President Obama is a failure! Under President G.W.Bush the country suffer with horrible decision that lead to needless American deaths in Iraq! There where NO weapon of mass destruction"! It is so sick that President Bush will never answer for the needless deaths of American troops.Nor will white Republicans see it as a issue! They will rather attack President Obama who is ending the needless war in Iraq and saving American troops lives! White Americans seem to be so misguided and uninformed about what make America America! This country big lie that we as a people came together after 9/11 was nothing but talk! Whites just added Muslim to people to hate along with Russian, Germans, Hispanic, Iraqi, Mexican, all the people of Afghanistan gay people.

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