The American Spectator : Bowing to Tehran

Robbins Mitchell| 4.5.10 @ 6:19AM

Anybody who goes swimming in Dickie Daley's toilet is not naive,Ben...he is ideologically (if not religiously) motivated to suck up to our enemies and to toss our allies under the bus..his reasoning seems to be that if Bush and the 'white power structure' did it a certain way,it was wrong...ergo,he will do the opposite and lead us all into a bright Alinskyesque tomorrow where the world is more to his personal liking...not to put to fine a point on it,but one may as well argue that Castro was naive when he took over Cuba and jumped in bed with the Soviets..and he was 15 yrs younger than Barokeydoke...and without the benefit of an Ivy League education...come to think of it,that probably worked to Castro's advantage

Alan Brooks| 4.5.10 @ 12:49PM

Obama isn't naive, but MANY of his constituents are frightfully naive.

That is the worst thing about college bubble towns.

Jeremy Janson | 4.5.10 @ 4:43PM

Hopefully this caused them to smarten up a bit, and I see some evidence from here at Georgia Tech (granted, top notch college but still) that such may have finally happened.

Nate W.| 4.5.10 @ 5:26PM

Hate to say it, but I think Obama really knows what he's doing. Since he hates America so much (don't believe me? see http://www.newsrealblog.com/20.....more-46898 ), he probably sees Iran as the most likely candidate to bring us to our knees. If this were the 1970-80's, he would be kowtowing before Russia.

Seba| 4.6.10 @ 12:33AM

He appease muslims because he is a Muslim. Wake up America

Kim| 4.6.10 @ 11:35AM

AMEN! No one wants to believe this. The liberals who support him have turned a blind eye to this because they see him as an agent of change...one who will force their Socialist agenda down our throats.

Truth| 4.6.10 @ 12:42PM

Yeah, that's why he sent 30,000 troops to Afghanistan and the Homeland Security Dept announced new rules to allow profiling of certain religious/ethinic indentifiers in airports. Idiot.

Jeff| 4.10.10 @ 5:21PM

It's simple:
America's enemies are Barack's friends.
America's friends are Barack's enemies.
And that's all you need to know about Barack.

Sam| 4.6.10 @ 1:24AM

What would you know about college Alan? I'm guessing it's been over 2 decades since you were there. But let's set the record straight:

Everyone- please stop worshipping Israel They disrespected Joe Biden and President Obama. Do those scheming leaches in Israel forget how America made them great? Our "allies" wouldn't exist if we hadn't stuck our neck out for them and those ungrateful little snots think they can spit in the faces of America's leaders. How bout we cut off all funding for them and see how they react? Hopefully, it will teach them some manners and we can use it to repay the deficit.

nobozons| 4.6.10 @ 8:18AM

Sam, stop drinking BO's cool aid. Biden was not disrespected. Israel just didn't give BO what he wanted for his conference with the Arabs. Look past your nose Sam!

Kim| 4.6.10 @ 11:48AM

"Our "allies" wouldn't exist if we hadn't stuck our neck out for them"
Not true. The Jews have been around much longer than the United States, therefore, they are pretty good at taking care of themselves in the face of all the hostility aimed at them throughout the centuries.

Wellstone| 4.10.10 @ 2:45PM

Yes true.
Had Kissinger and Nixon not saved Israel from destruction in the 1973 Yom Kippur War, and then kept Israel as the No. 1 taker of US military and foreign aid for the next 40 years, there would be no Israel today.

jh| 4.11.10 @ 11:46PM

Wellstone: You need to brush up on your history. The U.S. spent (and spends) 50 times as much defending Western Europe throughout the Cold War as it ever spent on Israel. Do you think that our NATO allies have shown us any gratitude for this vast expense? Have you noticed how much they have contributed to our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Dee Smith| 4.11.10 @ 11:54PM

"disrespected Joe Biden and President Obama"
I have no respect for Joe Biden or Beau Biden. They have trampled on the constitution. Does anyone wonder why in the world would they pick Joe Biden for VP. And why isn't Beau Biden running for Daddy's seat. I am so sick of the whole pack of them including Lame street Media. That book "Game change" left out a whole lot of goodies out on the "Chosen one" Jan 2008 till Aug 2008?

neil| 6.28.10 @ 8:29PM

sam! do not take it personally, but you are either a complete idiot, an avowed antisemite or both. (me for one, i place my money on the last choice). listen, this fake outrage coming out of hussein's administration is just that - FAKE ! the only thing real about this one -term-occupant of the w.h. (less i hope, through impeachment..) is his appeasement of fellow-muslimes world wide!wake up man and smell the coffee!

gearjammer| 4.6.10 @ 6:16AM

I live near Brown University. I go to coffee shops and restaurants and bars where members of the " Brown Community " gather. I overhear their conversations often enough. Naive and weird indeed. But, so condescending to all others and firm belief that the future belongs to themselves, exclusively.I do believe a majority of them would support military and police action against members of the nation who won't submit to their will. Of course, later we'd get therapy if we survived. We thought we settled this-Solzenitzen was freed and his books published. Ha !

Mike| 4.5.10 @ 12:50PM

Exactly right. Hussein Obama is a Muslim ape. Why is anyone surprised he's trying to appease his fellow towel-head jihadists?

htr| 4.5.10 @ 5:39PM

Is this supposed to be a serious reply? I thought everyone supposed to cool the name calling and present rationally intelligible arguments.

elephant4life| 4.5.10 @ 5:58PM

Mike,
You should apologize posthaste - to the ape.

Mike| 4.5.10 @ 7:14PM

Uh, ok. Sorry for calling Hussein Obama exactly what he is?

fred gill| 4.5.10 @ 9:12PM

It serves no purpose to refer to anyone as a "muslim ape" or a "towel-headed" jihadist. Such talk plays into the hands of the left and besides, it is simply hateful.

Mike| 4.5.10 @ 9:32PM

It serves the purpose of telling the damn truth about our America-hating president. You're not going to win over leftists by buying into their political correctness crap; they hate us and will continue to hate us regardless of what we say. Stop being a concern troll.

GavInTucson| 4.6.10 @ 12:42AM

It's not about political correctness. It's about elevating the discussion above name calling. The left resorts to name calling because they can't intelligently debate the issues. If they wish to debate on the level of a high school drop out, so be it. We lessen ourselves by stooping to their level.

serge baruch| 4.6.10 @ 3:28AM

You're right, Gavin, "the left resort to name calling because they can't intelligently debate the issues", and to anti-Semitism exactly because of this, too. Good example - a Sam Sam| 4.6.10 @ 1:24AM several comments above.

Miriam Wright| 4.6.10 @ 5:44PM

Thank you Gavin! The left lies about things we don't say. Let's not give them ammunition with the things we do say. "Stooping to their level" is exactly what they want.

TheEnforcer| 4.7.10 @ 12:50PM

Like if they loved us.

newcan| 4.11.10 @ 9:18AM

Fred, you are completely wrong -- Saul Alinsky himself makes a huge point of urging left wing radicals to freeze the target, personalize it, polarize it, and use ridicule to attack it. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. It's the left who is suggesting that we withold name calling, so they can use it exclusively. We are still a free country and should say whatever we wish, with whatever passion we feel. Freeze Obama, personalize him, polarize him, and ridicule him. It's OK - 'cos Alinsky said so.

Dee Smith| 4.11.10 @ 11:58PM

touche!!! Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm

David| 4.8.10 @ 10:35AM

Amen! You tell it like it is.
Obama bowed to that Arab because he is a muslim and the Arab is his senior in Islam.
Obama, the undocumented worker, has to be impeached.

seba| 4.6.10 @ 12:34AM

He appease muslims because he is a Muslim. Wake up America

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jack| 4.5.10 @ 7:08AM

lets not forget that Bush did little on Iran even though they were killing our men in Iraq. But with Obama we are far too often forced to wonder on every move,is he an imbecile or is he trying to destroy the US? Is it possible he is treating Israel like garbage in hopes they will do his work for him and attack Iran? Who else but Israel can be trusted to get the job done right?
The more disturbing question is why does the US Jewish community continue to vote for Democrats?

blarset| 4.5.10 @ 11:59AM

Why do they vote democrat? I say -lets remind them of who has stuck with them thru the years.
Not leftist eliteists bent on tolerence for terrorists an appeasement.

JohnLeeHooker| 4.5.10 @ 4:15PM

Jack: by now I was hoping for something w/ a little more analytical meat than "Bush did it too." This perseveration indicates to me that you are the sad product of the public education moron machine incapable of ANY analytical thought or reasoning. But, hey. Great to hear from you w/ the "Bush did it" thing. Just for old times sake, next time throw in the "racist" thing too would you. Those two canards just go together.

Mississippi Muddy Waters| 4.5.10 @ 4:52PM

Hey John Lee, maybe you should actually read Jack's comment before blasting him. Go ahead, give it a shot... Loved your work with Canned Heat by the way.

MikeyG| 4.5.10 @ 6:41PM

And don't forget about that CIA report late in Bush's term on Iran that asserted their nuclear program was no threat - timed exactly to take away any political support for military action against Iran. That report was a political farce designed to embarrass Bush and make Americans feel less fearful of Iran. The CIA political machine is responsible for letting Iran get to this point with nukes, NOT Bush!

jaymallot| 4.5.10 @ 5:46PM

Because they're liberals first, idiot.

Shauna| 4.6.10 @ 1:26AM

I'm sorry but why is this Bush's fault? Is it an article of faith that everything Obama is doing wrong is somehow excused by "Bush did it too"?

Do you not remember that Obama said he was going to do everything the exact opposite of "he who must not be named, but is so often anyway"?

Opposite. But now when opposite fails you claim Bush did it too? That's logic.

The Israeli Jews need to convince their American counter parts and fast! Obama won't survive without the Jewish vote. In some ways it is American Jews on the left who should get the blame if Iran bombs Israel.

I care, why don't they?

No doubt some of them will say it is Bush's fault.

seth brown| 4.8.10 @ 7:26PM

As a Jew and a patriot, I heartily agree. Why do the vast majority believe in the salvation of the democratic party? GW was 10x the friend of Israel than BO is or ever will be. BO's "apology" tour attempred an equation of the Holocaust to the plight of the Palestinians;WAKE UP.
More importantly, as an American, the dems have proven what they stand for; a euro-style nanny state that has little to do with what this country is about. For the 1st time in my life, I'm scared for my country and my kids/grandkids.

seedman| 4.5.10 @ 7:30AM

Alinsky was expert at tearing things up, but clueless on what should follow.

avery| 4.5.10 @ 4:29PM

Excellent point. Utopia knows nothing about building or preserving, only destroying.

elephant4life| 4.5.10 @ 6:01PM

But in a Utopia, no one would have to work, because the state would provide everything, so why would they address something that would require it? (Pretty obvious where their logic falls apart, isn't it?)

Thomas Paine| 4.5.10 @ 6:42PM

I must differ, sir:

Any true Utopia, by definition, must be an anarchy.

David| 4.8.10 @ 10:38AM

Anarchy........on mind control drugs.
orwell had it right, just a few years off.

Jim O'Brien| 4.5.10 @ 7:51AM

Another polite word for Obama would be "conflicted", but I think it's worse than that. He has a built-in bias for the Islamists versus the United States and Israel. Obama would agree with the old Communist and Nazi propaganda that Israel is just as racist as the old apartheid South Africa. Obama is no doubt aware of the fact that the the Palestinians, the various terrorist groups, and terror sponsoring states such as Iran are on the same page and have the same major goals: eradication of Israel and extermination of all Jews. Obama is not naive; he is a willing ally, giving aid and comfort to the terrorists.

Equally disturbing is his willingness to unilaterally weaken our nuclear defense, while Russia promises Venezuela help in developing nuclear weapons.

Naive, conflicted, or treacherous?

Jim O'Brien| 4.5.10 @ 8:12AM

The demise of Israel would mean the end of freedom everywhere, as if Hitler had won WW II.

S.L. Toddard| 4.5.10 @ 1:52PM

Could you explain that one for us? How would "the demise of Israel" mean "the end of freedom" in, say, Oklahoma?

Harley2002| 4.5.10 @ 3:32PM

We don't need Israel to fall to lose freedom. Omarxist is doing a damn good job of taking our freedoms away at a record pace.

Joseph| 4.5.10 @ 5:55PM

Because the Jews are often the canary in the coalmine?

JT| 4.5.10 @ 9:42PM

Because S.L., we Jews are like the "canary in the coalmine" - same goes for the gypsies - when we get holocausted, soon others will be too, see Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, Uganda, just a few months ago we had a mini-holocaust in Sri Lanka, 300,000 people disappeared, o well, no one cares, you didn't hear any politicans express their concerns...

S.L. Toddard| 4.6.10 @ 3:58PM

"Because S.L., we Jews are like the "canary in the coalmine"

OK. Then could you explain that one for us? How would "the demise of Israel" mean "the end of freedom" in, say, Oklahoma? Draw that slippery slope for me - Israel meets its demise, X happens, and as a result, Oklahomans are no longer free.

What is X?

serge baruch| 4.6.10 @ 3:37AM

Though I follow discussions on TAS only from time to time, I didn't fail to notice that it's almost totally impossible to explain anything to you, Mr. Toddard. You keep to your preconcieved ideas and the party line no matter what.

So my advice to Jim O'Brien not to waste his time.

Occam49| 4.11.10 @ 11:22AM

Because Israel's existence is a religious issue. And, radical Muslims do NOT believe in religious freedom. To the Muslim, there is no room in the universe for any other religion and, it is their duty to destroy any other religious belief ssytems.

Given the opportunity and the means, the radical Muslims leaders, would have all Oklahomans become Muslim or be destroyed. How do you look in a long beard wearing a dish towel?

Dee Smith| 4.12.10 @ 12:04AM

Great tags words look em" up Acorn, Oklahoma,corruption

MacWell| 4.5.10 @ 9:26PM

Far more than that. Every soul that America sent would've died in vane. Every member of the human race, from every corner of the globe, would've been required to conform. "Just trust us, we have your best interest at heart"? What we instead must ask, how many more souls are we going to have to sacrifice to quench the beast's thrist?

Ret. Marine| 4.5.10 @ 7:53AM

" Naive" I think not, caculating, listening to the most bigoted of Dept. of State people, maybe. Sure of his "I'm smater than you are" mentality" absolutely. But, naive, no he's way too smart for that...............o.k. sarc button off.......... he's a fool that acts foolish in front of the whole world, and this is the best this Nation has to offer? pathetic. Contrary to stated so-called facts of the lamestream media talking heads, he not even interested in a safe America. How do I come to this conclusion, let's see, bows before heads of states deserving nothing but a bullet to their heads for their treatment of their own people, sending the hilda-beast around the world chasing a dream of equality, redistribution, and murder, (funding abortions in turd worlds) lending to the support of all marxist of this world by siding with the enemies of this country, so much for that part of his sworn oath to "defend" this country or the Constitution. I could go on, but I suspect this crowd here understands all too much of what I am talking of.
Now to this article, appeasement never, never works. The history of this fact proves beyond any shadow of (anyone's historical knowledge) a doubt, and it will not work in this time. The most dangerous of these evil people respect strenght and resolve rather than appeasement and girleymen in pimp suits. More and more on a daily basis I am to believe this usurper-n-theif is a fake. He is a known liar, a theif to the concept of liberty, freedom and personal choices. I believe my nine year old grandson knows more about the truth of this country's history than this fool does. and the scarey part, he's got the keys to the financial markets, projects the power of these United States, and his hands on the most destructive devices this world has ever known, nuclear weapons. And I am suppose to think he has our best interest at heart. I'd rather swallow a handful of razor-blades and take my chances other than to think or "feel" he's interested in my family, my friends, and neighbors safety. We do live in interesting times with a fool with the keys to far more items at his disposal than he can muster of brains. Good day.

bob| 4.5.10 @ 8:13PM

This is some really stupid stuff. Good luck with the rest of your life.

Patzer| 4.5.10 @ 8:09AM

Jack:

"Imbecile" vs. "trying to destroy the country" is a false dichotomy.

He's BOTH.

concernedforusa| 4.5.10 @ 4:01PM

It is absolutely clear that Obama is a Muslim and a Marxist. He hates both Israel and the USA. It is not wise to think that he is naive and act foolishly. He deliberatly destroys the USA and Israel. Remember, for him, Israel is a little Satan, and the USA is a great Satan.

ForthRight| 4.5.10 @ 9:54PM

While largely agreeing with your view, I note that it is difficult to be both a Marxist (doesn't believe in any god) and a Muslim (believes in a god). My money would be on a Marxist with Muslim sympathies, through birth and upbringing. After all, it is pretty hard to believe in a god when you are as narcissistic as Obama.

Shauna| 4.6.10 @ 1:33AM

Obama is not a Muslim. He is more likely an atheist.

Islamists are at war with America and Israel the two biggest obstacles to totalitarian power.

They are a natural ally. Is is not religion Obama likes about Muslims it is the politics. Very different things.

Louis Jenkins| 4.5.10 @ 8:34AM

Okay, so all the birthers out there are off their rocker. The Pretender n Chief spent a portion of his childhood life in Malaysia. A census form of that country states that he was a citizen of Malaysia, and his religion was Muslim. He even attended a Muslim school while there. It is fact.

These are the formative years of his life, people. And we wonder why he shows no favor towards Israel or the USA, but handles his brother Muslims with kid gloves? The thing speaks for itself.

Hardy| 4.5.10 @ 4:08PM

Indonesia, not Malaysia. Other than that, your points are well taken.

Mia Sherer| 4.7.10 @ 1:46PM

BO's paternal grandfather was a Muslim in Kenya, his father was a Communist(PHD Harvard graduate) and his teen mentor was a black Communist from Chicago, living in Hawaii, and a friend of his grandfather. His mother graduated from a leftist/communist leaning HS in WA; she was an atheist and her 2nd husband was a Muslim. Then BO attended a Black Liberation Theology church in Chicago for 20 years ; which preaches Marxist philosophy and blames the US for all blacks' problems. Oprah attended this church briefly in the mid-90's and soon left. Bottom line.....had the media exercised their professional responsibility, the truth about Obama would've been revealed. Since they never cared to vet him or challenge him, their printed propaganda is responsible for this leader. Honestly, how could any American expect him to understand the America we love? How could we expect him to share our values and our shared history or sense of community? He grew up dramatically different than the vast majority in the US. His vision for the US is not ours.

MKJ| 4.5.10 @ 8:49AM

How Obama treated Mr. Netanyahu was/is reprehensible. Mr. Obama seems incapable of feeling shame and lacks an understanding of world politics as well as the history of anything but his own self (and even that is vague at best.)
Ben Stein for President!

Jim O'Brien| 4.5.10 @ 8:52AM

I'd much rather have Netanyahu in the White House than BHO.

usaconcerned| 4.5.10 @ 4:08PM

I absolutely agree with you. Unlike Obama, Netanyahu does not hate the USA.

Dee Smith| 4.12.10 @ 12:10AM

Wasn't Bebe from the Phila area went to school there I believe. Let's put him on the ballot. I could just Wikipedia Him but I don't trust them anymore. Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm

Timothy L. Pennell| 4.5.10 @ 8:53AM

When are you people gonna STOP with the DENIAL? He's a MUSLIM! Are you people STUPID? Can you READ?
His Father was a MUSLIM. His Step Father was a MUSLIM. His Mother converted to ISLAM. (Am I going too fast?) He was 'BROUGHT UP" in KENYA and INDONESIA. He attended MADRASSA. That's where they teach you: "Look out! There's a JEW behind that rock. KILL HIM!" Everybody knows that. He knelt on his PRAYER RUG, facing MECCA, 5 times a day, and prayed to ALLAH. These are FACTS!
"Oh, but he belonged to a 'Church'."
Really? What 'Christian' Church gives out Lifetime Achievement Awards to RACIST, BIGOTED, ANTI-SEMITE - Louis Farrakhan? What 'Christian' Church gives out Lifetime Achievement Awards to the Leader of THE NATION OF ISLAM? Or goes to visit KADAFFI?
This MUSLIM in sheeps' clothing knows EXACTLY what he's doing. READ HIS STUPID BOOKS. When the obama hits the fan, between the ARABS and the JEWS, he's "Siding with the ARABS".
Is there any of this that you don't understand?

Frank Bernard| 4.5.10 @ 11:20AM

I keep reading that Obama's mother converted to Islam. Is there proof?

serge baruch| 4.6.10 @ 3:49AM

In accordance with the Sharia (Islamic Law) if she didn't convert her two Mahomedan husbands wouldn't be able to marry her. If in the USA it could be somehow avoided through a civil marriage, in Indonesia her marriage wouldn't be recognized, and thus not only her children wouldn't be allowed to attend mosque and medresse, but she would be stoned to death for adultery.

None of these happend, right?

Ergo, she DID convert to Islam.

rc| 4.5.10 @ 4:09PM

i can tell you really know what you are talking about because you use capital letters! what a joke you are. seen any black helicopters today?

usaconcerned| 4.5.10 @ 4:13PM

Obama is a Muslim. He is not a "natural born citizen" and therefore he is not qualified for the Office of the President. If Glenn says otherwise, do not swallow this. Fox News has reason not to be involved in this discussion. By the way, Fox News has a Saudi Prince as one of major shareholders. Always keep it in mind. Glenn told us to ask question with boldness. So, follow Glenn and ask with boldness for Obama birth certificate. This is absolutely legitimate issue.

JT Davenport| 4.8.10 @ 12:57PM

Timothy, YES, you are right. Why else would he be doing what he has been doing. Why else would William Ayers have taken the time to groom him? Why would George Soros have bothered to give money to his campaign? Why would the Saudi King have done the same? Why would BARAK INSANE OBAMA have bowed to the King of the Saudis? Why would he have consistently gone SOFT on those in control of Iran? Why would he have turned against Israel?
Why has he sold out the United States? Why has he and his administration attempted to destroy our currency and bankrupt this nation?
The answer to ALL of these questions is really very simple.
HE IS A COMMUNIST AND A MUSLIM. For those who need ANY proof, just look at what he has said and, at what he has done.
We will most likely see one or more of these things I'll next talk about come to pass.
1. A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION where it will require 34 states to just convene one and 38 states to ratify anything agreed upon. By this method, the states CAN override ANY law our government legislates into being.
2. TEXAS seceeding from the UNION followed by a LARGE number of other states.
3. Outright CIVIL WAR due to TAXATION and LEGISLATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.
Remember, we fought a war against Great Britain
over just these same reasons. And, the South seceeded from the Union because the North was trying to tell Southerners how to conduct their business.
These are the same things we fought over then and, we just might fight over them again.
The French people fought against those who held power in France because those in control were unresponsive to what the " PEOPLE " wanted and really needed. This led to the invention of MADAME GUILLOTINE, whose " KISS " was most final. We might see something of the same happen here, who knows?!!!
Next: Let me say this ... Communism and Fascism are but TWO SIDES of the same coin. In Communism, those in control seek to take from the RICH and WEALTHY ( sound familiar ?? ) and give it to the poor. By this method those in power seek to control the citizens of a nation. In Fascism, those in control simply seek to take from citizen of a nation for the exclusive benefit of those who are in control of that nation. This is what happened in Germany under the NAZIS. The word NAZI is a shortened form of the German word NATZIONAL which means NATIONAL. The party HITLER formed was the NATZIONAL SOCIALISTE party or, simply called the NAZIs. They were FASCISTS. This word FASCIST comes from the LATIN (ROMAN) word for the sticks the Romans beat their SLAVES with. If you look on the back of some of our coins, you will see what looks like a battle axe with a bundle of sticks wrapped around it. These sticks are Fasces and, the AXE and bundle of Fasces is an old Roman symbol of power and control. And, now you know. ------ JT ------

John Wohlstetter | 4.5.10 @ 9:24AM

Ben -

You give Mr. Obama too much credit. UN sanctions are NOT designed to induce Iran to abandon its program; they are designed to induce America not to take serious sanction steps or strike Iran's nuclear facilities, and to induce voters to think Obama is serious about stopping Iran. Their weakness may well induce Israel to strike Iran, despite Obama's opposition.

Regards,

JW

Ken (Old Texican)| 4.5.10 @ 9:53AM

Mr. Stein,
Folks,
Good insights.

I read a chilling "question" on another site that has been tickling around in my mind for some time.

"Don't we understand that there may be hundreds if not thousands off "sleepers" imbedded all across our country...waiting for their orders for a coordinated rash of terrorist acts?"

Be a boy scout, folks. Be prepared for the worst, and hopefully we can all laugh at ourselves down the road for being "silly".

ExConservative| 4.5.10 @ 9:54AM

What exactly is the threat to the U.S. from Iran?

1FreeMan| 4.5.10 @ 10:15AM

Sorry, "ExCon", don't see how you missed it but let me help you. Read slowly so you have a better chance of understanding:

1) Iran trains Jihaddists to attack the USA.
2) Iran trains, supplies and deploys personnel who are members of the Taliban. THOSE guys attack women, children and, oh yes, American Soldiers.
3) Iran's president publically expressed his belief in a scorched earth where most of the world population die in a nuclear furnace leaving only the devout muslims to worship Allah.
4) No one, but perhaps you, believes they only want nuclear power to generate electricity. They want a Nuclear weapon to attack Israel and the USA. Do you have children that can absorb massive amounts of radiation?
5) Known terrorist plots right here in the USA have been foiled by the FBI. THOSE guys trained in Irainial supported training camps.
6) Global destabilization, AKA Muslim Jihad waged from camps paid for and equipped by Iran, threatens an already weakened global economy.

Please get a clue.
You embarrass yourself.

ExConservative| 4.5.10 @ 10:33AM

That is a load of laughable BS propaganda.

S.L. Toddard| 4.5.10 @ 10:52AM

ExCon - imagine how terrified you would be every second of the day if you swallowed all the horsesh*t these people do. Look at these primitive backwaters that send them into apoplectic fits of hysterical cowardice. It would be funny if they weren't my own countrymen.

1FreeMan| 4.5.10 @ 11:37AM

Having walked through Afghanistan personally I know the above to be true.
Disprove it point for point, if you can. Beware, I can prove every word.

Go home troll Toddard. Your lies and cowardess are already legend on this forum. You know we joke about your stupidity regularly, right? Poor Toddard. I will pray for you. Seriously.

Red Phillips | 4.5.10 @ 2:50PM

1FreeMan, I have little doubt that Iran wants nuclear weapons. Why wouldn't they? They immediately make you a player on the world stage, and they up the ante considerably for anyone considering attacking you. But it is an incredible leap to say they want nukes so they can offensively use them to attack Israel and the US. First, when did Israel become the 51st state? Did I miss something? The purpose of the US military is to protect the US, not any other country. Second, how would Iran deliver a nuke to the US? By sub? By long range bomber? By ICBM? Again, did I miss something? Do you know something about Iran's military capabilities that I don't? And why would they do so knowing that they would immediately be wiped off the face of the earth in retaliation.

"Iran trains, supplies and deploys personnel who are members of the Taliban."

Are you sure about that? Iran is Shiite and the Taliban is Sunni. Iran did not formally recognize the Taliban government and aided their enemy the Northern Alliance. Our ally Saudi Arabi supported them financially however. You want to bomb Saudi Arabia also?

"Iran's president publically expressed his belief in a scorched earth where most of the world population die in a nuclear furnace leaving only the devout muslims to worship Allah."

Citation please. If you are referring to the disputed translation of Ahmadinejad's "wiped of the map" comment, then even if that comment is taken at its worst meaning, what you wrote is gross hyperbole.

But I am sure you know what you are talking about since you said you can "prove every word." Well have at it.

Tomas| 4.5.10 @ 5:43PM

Red:

It is not an "incredible leap" to assume Iran wants to use nuclear weapons to attack Israel and the US. Granted, Sunnis hate Shiites, and Muslim on Muslim terrorist crime is rampant... everywhere (this is fighting the Near Enemy). That is a function of the split in Islam after Mohammad's death. Nothing will change that.

However, the war against anyone who doesn't believe Islam is a very real thing, invoked by the Koran. The West is the Far Enemy, and the only reason Jihadists have not been more successful in their attacks on us is their conspicuousness in our culture.

Iran is as committed to the destruction of the West as any other radical Muslin State. Granted, we are turning a blind eye to Saudi Arabia, and other states, like Syria are more open in their vehemence, but don't use that argument to prove an "unfair" bias towards Iran.

The clerics in Iran believe that the Mahdi will return - look it up - and that his coming will be preceded by global apocalypse. Ahmadinijahd has made it very clear that Iran wants to trigger that apocalypse through the use of first-strike nuclear weapons - he has said so publicly.

Israel is no more the 51st state than Hawaii is the 57th.... It is, however, a hugely strategic ally and we have pledged a morally justifiable relationship with them that guarantees our complete assistance in their defense. The "statehood" of Israel is irrelevance. If we had your attitude leading up to our involvement in WW II, Hitler would have succeeded through our pacifism.

Protecting the US includes protecting our allies. It's the domino theory. It's real (just ask any of the former Soviet Bloc countries).

How will Iran deliver their nuclear weapon to the US? If you think large-scale weaponry is the only de-facto way of delivering a weapon you really haven't been paying attention.

According to long-standing Islamic teaching, Islam will one day be the only world religion and Sharia law the only justice (look what's happening in Europe). All Muslims want this goal achieved, but not all use the same methods. Jihadists believe the Koran teaches that the propagation of Islam must come about by the sword (it does).

However means they wish to accomplish this, don't doubt for a minute that it IS their goal...

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kj | 4.6.10 @ 12:35AM

With friends like these, who needs enemies?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_(AGTR-5)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard

And there's plenty more, unfortunately there's a 2 link limit on this website.

cl| 4.5.10 @ 11:00AM

why don't you reply to each point with facts, if you have any facts, rather than a juvenile dismissal

1FreeMan| 4.5.10 @ 11:40AM

Wow, you zinged me with that educated and thought out reply. Ouch!

Please do your research before replying next time.

If you get your mommie to bring cookies down to your basement "lair" maybe you will feel better when you discover the truth. Milk will go well with the cookies. I only mention that because it is clear you have trouble thinking for yourself.

Remember to share with Toddard.

Lullaby's, Legends and Lies| 4.5.10 @ 12:17PM

Toddard's still alive? I thought he drowned during the "Great" flood of Rhode Island (he's a Red Sox fan don't you know-just another reason not to like him). Hmm? Maybe besides being a douchebag, he's a douchebag who floats. Lets Go Yankees!!

Great Grandma| 4.5.10 @ 4:35PM

I can see why you are an ex-conservative. You decided that believing lies is better than knowing the truth. Watch out though. A lie doesn't wear well when you have to face reality.

DeeBee9| 4.5.10 @ 4:38PM

Well, One big one is that the Iranians could block the Strait of Hormuz, cutting off much of the West's oil. Would the US (let alone the UK, France, Germany, or Japan) have the courage (especially under this president) to go up against a nuclear armed Iran to force the starit open?

serge baruch| 4.6.10 @ 3:59AM

I don't believe you're "ex" conservative - you've never been one. If you're so amused, have a good laugh - for now. It'll be just another proof that you're retard... or was it returd? Sorry, spelling is not my strongest skill.

Kim| 4.6.10 @ 11:59AM

WHAT!?

Michael Tomlinson| 4.5.10 @ 10:01AM

Obama is not naive he is just being himself, a good Democrat -- an appeaser of dictators and enemy of individual liberty and freedom. If Gore, Kerry or Hillary were President we'd have seen virtually the same failures with them too.

The Democrat party at its core is an elitist oligarchy that prefers the stability and status quo of dictators and tyrants versus the dynamics of democracy and freedom in the world. That's why they flock to the State Department and worked so hard against Reagan and both Bush Presidencies when they were attempting to advance the ideals of freedom.

Watch for things to get worse not better while Obama occupies the White House.

concernedforusa| 4.5.10 @ 4:28PM

There is a profound difference between Hillary, Gore, Kerry and Obama. Obama is a Muslim. As a Muslim he hates this country much more than an average "Democrat" does. Democratic party consists of hard core radicals now. Their "ideal of freedom" is a communist Gulag or Nazi Germany. Both regimes have roots in Marxism. And Marxism is cherished by so-called "Democrats". At least Gore, Hillary, Kerry feel themselves Americans. Obama does not.

Michael Tomlinson| 4.5.10 @ 10:01AM

Obama is not naive he is just being himself, a good Democrat -- an appeaser of dictators and enemy of individual liberty and freedom. If Gore, Kerry or Hillary were President we'd have seen virtually the same failures with them too.

The Democrat party at its core is an elitist oligarchy that prefers the stability and status quo of dictators and tyrants versus the dynamics of democracy and freedom in the world. That's why they flock to the State Department and worked so hard against Reagan and both Bush Presidencies when they were attempting to advance the ideals of freedom.

Watch for things to get worse not better while Obama occupies the White House.

S.L. Toddard| 4.5.10 @ 10:02AM

"Nothing is more essential, than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular Nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded."

- President George Washington

"Not seldom it has seemed as if some eminent Neoconservatives mistook Tel Aviv for the capital of the United States."

- Russell Kirk

William R| 4.5.10 @ 10:41AM

The same clowns that promoted the Iraq war are back again demanding we start bombing Iran. Never mind that 20 thousand American live in Lebanon and would become kidnapping targets of Hezbollah. Our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan would come under more pressure. Or that oil would jump to 400 dollars a barrel and our economy would collapse.

It's long past time to start asking. Whose side are they on???

Bob the Engineer| 4.5.10 @ 10:49AM

Is Obama naive? Is a frog's ass watertight?

TomB| 4.5.10 @ 11:00AM

ExConservative: Maybe because Iran has been killing Americans for the last thiry years or more either directly(In Iraq), or through their terrorist networks(Hezbollah). Remember Beirut? Or maybe its their direct statements to wipe out Israel and bring down the great satan(America). You know, Iran really has never been subtle about their intentions(killing americans) so maybe you can tell me what parallel universe you are living in.

William R| 4.5.10 @ 4:26PM

'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/no.....leid=11025

Conrad Spiracy| 4.7.10 @ 4:49PM

Yeah,
To paraphrase another America-hating, failed liberal:

It depends on what the meaning of is (Israel must be wiped off the map) is (The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time).

BTW - the American hostages were taken in 1978, not 1980. I know - I was on active duty.

Take this quote very literally - death to the regime in Teheran. I have known very good Iranians - they were studying beside me in American military schools well before 1978. Unfortunately, many of them probably did not survive Ayatollah Khomeni.

Con Spiracy

Excelsior!

Al Adab| 4.5.10 @ 11:53AM

It never ceases to amaze how so many can be blind or deaf to the actual statements from Tehran. A lot like those who kept saying Hitler was no threat just full of hyperbola. In the words of the sang, "When will they ever learn?"

Iran has been a significant international issue since 1980. Who might take action and when? Why do we expect others to do our dirty work for us?

Adheeb| 4.5.10 @ 12:38PM

The fundamental problem with Mr. Obama is his false religion. Any man who hates truth is an idolator.

Publius | 4.5.10 @ 1:07PM

And so it begins; behind every great world war is a bully who was allowed to run wild before everyone finally realized that if they didn't stand up to the bully, it would not end. Like Mr. Carter and Mr. Chamberlain before him, Mr. Obama is learning that appeasement never succeeds and there will always be very dangerous people who have no interest in reasonable discussion or commercial intercourse; just power. The current leaders of Iran think they can sustain their power by seeking to destroy Israel and while they may succeed in that quest, it will come at a cost of everything they hold dear. In the end, the coming war between Israel and Iran is a can't lose for Mr. Obama. If Israel wins he can be safe with the Jewish vote at home. If Israel loses, he can be safe with the radicals at home.

Northern Rebel| 4.5.10 @ 2:28PM

Jack:

The people that Ex- Conservative, and S.L. Toad find palatable, made it impossible for Bush to act against Iran, using the alphabet media to turn people against the war on terror.

As for the Toad, and Ex-con, I am unable to find the proper words to describe what enemies you are to freedom in this country, and across the world.

You have displayed the utmost contempt for freedom, and you're doing it with your unbridled irrational hatred of jews.

I got news for you slime. There is a God, and he is observing the hatred and bigotry you routinely spew for your muddled lips, and there will be ultimate judgement.

I just wish it would arrive on your doorstep soon, so I don't have to listen to you scumbags prattle on, with your vitriol, and misguided attempts at human intelligence.

'Till then, have a nice day, assholes!

Ken (Old Texican)| 4.5.10 @ 2:47PM

Northern Rebel,
Don't come to Texas until after November.

In the mean time, print up a thousand flyers and hand them out in the closest "non-idiot" district to where you live. Hand them out with a good conservative candidates' NAME on them. with one phrase:

Help Save freedom!...vote_______ for congress!

If we can win in November, enjoy. If we do not.................c'mon down and welcome.
Ken

Tom in Michigan| 4.5.10 @ 3:05PM

If only it was mere naiveté then, perhaps he could be educated regarding the truth. Instead, it’s much worse than that. Obama’s attitude and behavior in terms of real and symbolic diplomatic and foreign policy gestures are the result of an upbringing in a dysfunctional family, without a father to speak of, living much of his life outside the mainland of America and the poisonous influence of “mentors” like his communist tutor “Frank” Marshall Davis (“his old Black Power dashiki self,” according to the young Barack), the left-wing indoctrination he received at university, his hate-filled preacher and the low-life, former terrorists, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn who launched his political career.

Is it any wonder he has such a twisted view of this country and its contribution to the betterment of mankind? Is it any wonder that he sees its decline as progress? His treatment of our white-oppressor, Zionist (in his obvious opinion) soon-to-be-erstwhile allies and friends is as predictable as the tax increases, the Iranian bomb and the global instability to come.

The biggest threat to peace is not American “adventurism” or a “cowboy attitude” which the Left ascribed to G.W. Bush but rather feckless American “leadership.” The “educated class” in the Left will deny the facts forever in their lust for power and the “uneducated class” who elected Obama will deny it as well because they simply don’t know any better but, as in the case of Roosevelt’s ill-advised “negotiations” with the Japanese even as the latter’s carriers were moving towards Pearl Harbor, the Democrat Congress’ defunding of the South Vietnamese in 1975, Carter’s retreat in the face of the Russians leading to not one but two conflicts in Afghanistan, not to mention the now inevitable rise of a nuclear-armed Iran, Bush the Elder’s diplomat essentially giving the go-ahead to Saddam Hussein to invade Kuwait and Clinton’s Somalia pull-out which led Bin Laden to view Americans as weak all led to war and human suffering which could very well have been avoided had these “leaders” shown strength instead of weakness.

Can Obama’s “foreign policy” lead us to any other outcome?

Interested Conservative| 4.5.10 @ 3:32PM

He's not naive, and he's not stupid, but he is far more ignorant than most of his predecessors and certainly more so than most analysts realize.

Sure he mastered several skills and has several admirable traits, and while very deep they're also very, very narrow.

Like most everyone else, he has valuable personal experience, but nothing really applicable to his current position. At least the media conceded this fact, but wholly failed to explain what it could mean.

Now we all know what many of us have long known.

Thomas Paine| 4.5.10 @ 6:59PM

I must disagree: I think Obama, if not "stupid," is incompetent in economics and diplomacy. He seems blinded by his own self-worship to his flaws.

Americans elected an empty suit, a teleprompter sophist, waxing eloquently (ok, reading eloquent words, all you corpse-men) to project the appearance of intelligence.

Notice well the lack of East Room question-and-answer sessions with the press -- it's been 9 MONTHS -- because Obama can't perform, can't answer intelligently, without his 'prompter....

Ralph| 4.5.10 @ 3:36PM

The better Question is - Is Ben Stein Naive? Ben didn't you support Al Franken in Minnesota? You know the race that went on forever and eventually gave the democrats their 60 vote majority just long enough to pass Obamacare. Remember Ben? Without your support Ben, Coleman would have won and we wouldn't have Obamacare.

Mike S| 4.5.10 @ 3:39PM

So Stein thinks Obama is sending love notes to Iran and is humiliating Israel. Last I checked, we are giving Israel over $3 billion in aid and organizing economic sanctions to strangle Iran. I'm sure Iran would rather have Stein's "humiliation" rather than "love notes."

serge baruch| 4.6.10 @ 4:07AM

This $3 billion are given to Israel for spending on American weaponry, so the money returns to the USA economy.

You have objections to this?

Red Phillips | 4.6.10 @ 9:29AM

"You have objections to this?"

Well yes and so should you if you are any kind of conservative. Foreign aid is unconstitutional. Cite the Article and section of the Constitution that authorizes it. You do believe in the enumerated powers doctrine don't you?

And I'm shocked at how many apparent Keynesians we have reading a conservative website. So government spending is good for the economy?

serge baruch| 4.6.10 @ 7:50PM

Don't delute the issue, this highschool debating tricks do not wear well with adults.

For starters, we didn't speak about government spending in general, but even if we did, the world is not just black or white. Government spending is unavoidable, and there are lots of hues and half-tones here.

So military assistance to Israel is good, not in the first place for the economy. But since there are so many private companies involved in the arms industry... you, as a principled anti-Keynesian, should be satisfied when some of the tax money return to them.

Mark| 4.5.10 @ 3:42PM

Obama is naive but intelligent, although a good President this does not make.

Uncle Sam| 4.5.10 @ 3:44PM

I'm sure Neville Chamberlain meant well.

Red Phillips | 4.5.10 @ 3:46PM

Alright all you big talkers on Iran. It is one thing to verbally saber rattle and call Obama a coward or appeaser or whatever? But it is another thing to actually advocate some sort of plan. So keyboard warriors, what exactly are you suggesting? Stronger sanctions first? Proceeding directly to bombing? Would you bomb only potential nuclear sites or more, like command and control? If you only want to preemptively bomb their potential nuke sites, how do you keep the conflict with Iran from spilling over into Iraq? Would you commence an Iraq style invasion of Iran right away? You do realize we are already fighting two wars and are overextended as it is? You also do realize we are broke? Do you wind down Iraq so you can attack Iran? Do you reinstitute the draft? Do you raise taxes to pay for it? Let’s hear your brilliant plan to back up your big talk.

Al Adab| 4.5.10 @ 4:11PM

A couple of responses come readily to mind. First: can you spell thermobaric? Second: There exists a unit in the U.S. military known as the 82nd or alternatively the 101st Airborne. A fast drop of say 10,000 troops on the Natanz facility could do the job within a couple hours and be withdrawn once the facility is dismantled.

Since the Iran "conflict" is already in Iraq your argument there is specious. No need to invade Iran just as there was no need to remain in Iraq for this long. Nationbuilding is a Wilsonian concept, not a military one. Sanctions have never worked, ask Napoleon.

Red Phillips | 4.5.10 @ 4:58PM

Some things to think about AA.

http://www.chroniclesmagazine......ran-means/

And if attacking Iran would be so consequence free, why doesn't Israel do it? Here's why. You really need to read this.

http://www.avnery-news.co.il/english/index.html

Al Adab| 4.5.10 @ 5:30PM

No one is suggesting action would be "consequence free". The simple fact is that inaction carries greater consequences. The cost in lives and treasure would be immeasurably more. A million dead in Las Vegas or Houston or New York or LA. for example. What follow up to that do you suggest?
As to Israel, why do we expect them to do our dirty work?

Red Phillips | 4.5.10 @ 11:19PM

"A million dead in Las Vegas..."

AA, perhaps you should answer the question about how Iran would deliver a nuke to the US. Sub? Long range bomber? ICBM? Newsflash. They don't have any of those things. But I know. I know. They would give the nuke to a terrorist to deliver. Of course no foreign policy expert other than neocon shills thinks that scenario is even remotely plausible, but why go with expert opinion when you can instead rely of Chicken Little fear monger scenarios? To jump from Iran gets a nuke to New York goes up under a mushroom cloud is an incredible leap, but you seem to just reflexively assume it. Perhaps before you commit us to war, you should assess the actual threat.

And no one is suggesting that Israel should do our dirty work. They are suggesting that we should do Israel's dirty work. As we are constantly reminded, Iran is a potential existential threat to Israel, not the US.

S.L. Toddard| 4.6.10 @ 8:22PM

Can't exactly say I'm shocked that you never got a response to this.

Couple things to keep in mind, folks: There is no such thing as a "small government" that can lead, rule over and police the entire globe. One may advocate small government conservatism, or one may argue that the U.S. federal government should be so unimaginably massive that it can dominate the entire planet - but one categorically can not do both.

One may argue that terrorism is such a profound threat that we must wage multiple, perpetual wars, or one may argue that the terrorist threat is so insignificant that we can leave our southern border wide open for anyone to stream across - but one categorically can not do both.

serge baruch| 4.6.10 @ 4:14AM

Reading anything written by Avneri is equal to reading Hugo Chavez' wise thoughts, Kim Jon Il's musings or old Comintern propaganda brochures.

Well, except if you are immune to the Communist Agitprop: then you'll have a good laugh.

Typical AmSpec Reader| 4.6.10 @ 8:25PM

Yeah! He's probably an operative of GEORGE SOROS! He probably exhibits MORAL RELATIVISM! And CULTURAL MARXISM!

I have my handy-dandy Talk Radio Buzzword Dictionary here, so I can more or less reproduce any and every argument you folks regurgit... I mean, uh, make.

Robert| 4.5.10 @ 4:40PM

First before any attack you warn Israel that in X hours war is going to start. Second you redirect our carrier battle groups into position. Third you launch air strikes and missiles at the nuclear sites. While the missiles are flying you offer to stand down if Iran doesn't respond. The minute they start to mobilizing you launch the second wave at their air fields and republican guard. Around this time the bombers that were launced should be in position to rain down bombs. You take out their army then you redirect military units in afganistan and iraq to guard the iranian border. Meanwhile back home you get congress to authorize the doubling the size of the army and navy. Ramp up production of arms and increase ship building and you start to pull the economy out of recession. Permamently re-activate reserve units, authorize a promotion plan to bring inactive military back to active duty, re-class some jobs so that injured military can take over, authorize a serve for pardon or other prison program, and re-deploy units from europe to asia. This gives you a large base to draw new recruits from and experience. It relieves pressure on the current resources while maintaining protection for the country. Bottle up Iran and let the population finish the administration. Make it clear that we don't want to enter Iran and don't want to continue the war but are prepared to if neccessary

Red Phillips | 4.5.10 @ 5:16PM

Well Robert, I have to hand it too you. At least you have a plan. First of all, Keynes would be very proud of you. We will drag the country out of recession by creating massive new debt by huge increases in defense spending? Ever heard of the broken window fallacy? If you think we can drag the economy out of recession by debt, then I suppose you supported Obama’s stimulus bill.

Second, the action has to be proportionate to the actual threat. But despite the hysteria displayed in many of the comments here on this thread, it is by no means agreed that a nuclear Iran is an intolerable threat. Read my second link above.

Al Adab| 4.5.10 @ 5:54PM

Red,
Delusion is the handmaiden of disaster.

Red Phillips | 4.5.10 @ 11:21PM

You seem to think Iran can teleport a nuke to Middle America, but of course I am the delusional one.

serge baruch| 4.6.10 @ 4:25AM

Red Phillips: "Read my second link above"

So comrade Avneri is comfortable with a nuclear Iran... surprize, surprize! He is also comfortable with elimination of Israel (for instance, through the right of return for all the Arabs who left the country in 1948 and their innumerable progeny), and is quite open about it.

Are you Red politically, Mr. Phillips, or redfaced because you're ashamed by your own twaddle?

Red Phillips | 4.6.10 @ 9:20AM

Avneri also happens to be Jewish and lives in Israel, but I guess he must be a raging anti-Semite since he doesn't agree with what "conservative" Americans think he should believe. I came across his article from a link at the American CONSERVATIVE Magazine.

And I am not sure he said he would be comfortable with a nuclear Iran. What he said was that nothing could realistically be done to prevent it. Do you disagree with his analysis? Then what is your plan keyboard General?

Also, I am, for the 100th time, a non-interventionist paleoconservative. It is not my fault that you have been so brainwashed by the movement "conservative" powers that be that you can not conceptualize of a non-interventionist conservative.

reheiler| 4.6.10 @ 1:28PM

Red:
I can "conceptualize" a non-interventionist conservative. I can also "conceptualize" a one-horned, six-legged, flying diabetic rhinocerous. I'm just not sure where it fits into reality.
Isolationism -- the practical application of "non-interventionism -- is possible today, if you're Belgium. If you're the United States, you have just spent well over half a century ensuring the stability of globe. Stop doing that now, and you'd better lay in some serious provisions, because several different stripes of barbarian are itching to see what they can get away with if what they French call the "hyperpower" decides to take its ball and go home. Oh, and by the wya, the worldwide economy has got a whole lot of foot-bone-connected-to-the-leg-bone going on these days. I'm all for keeping our nose out when feasible, but in many cases the deleterious unintended consequences are too obvious to ignore.

Red Phillips | 4.6.10 @ 2:15PM

"If you're the United States, you have just spent well over half a century ensuring the stability of globe."

Where is "ensuring the stability of the globe" in that job description for the US some of us like to call the Constitution? The limited government at home but unlimited government abroad mindset that is interventionist "conservatism" is what is truly impossible to conceptualize.

serge baruch| 4.6.10 @ 8:08PM

Avneri is a communist (at best, a crypto-communist), and as such his Jewishness is irrelevant. Marx was a Jew, too, and avid anti-Semite. What's new?

American conservative magazines, unlike Lefty onces who cannot stand dissenting opinions, publish the likes of Chomsky or Avneri to inform their readers... eh, those of them who are capable of understanding that informing is not equal to sharing the views.

You can fancy yourself as non- whatever-conservative all you want, but your level of argumentation is really laughable.

S.L. Toddard| 4.6.10 @ 8:28PM

"You can fancy yourself as non- whatever-conservative all you want, but your level of argumentation is really laughable"

That is my favorite tactic of the AmSpecius Neoconnus: fail to make any argument whatsoever, and once you've found yourself intellectually outgunned, call your opponent a poopy-head.

serge baruch| 4.7.10 @ 6:54PM

You're alnost right, there is a failure involved here. But it is your failure to understand my argument about Avneri, who is a communist whose Jewishness thus is unmaterial.

The only purpose the Jewishnes ofAvneri, Soros et al serve is prooving that Jews are really G-d's chosen people: when He creates a Jewish idiot, He does it with a special gusto.

Thomas Paine| 4.5.10 @ 7:01PM

How about an EMP during the next fill-the-streets protests? Let the secret police try to crack down without radios and coordination....

Uncle Sam| 4.5.10 @ 3:48PM

I'd settle for statesmanship.

Joe Doakes| 4.5.10 @ 4:11PM

Mr. Stien,

In my neck of the woods we call them morons which is slang for idiot.

Regards,

Joe

Greg| 4.5.10 @ 4:13PM

As usual, a quality analysis by Mr. Stein. It's increasingly clear that Mr. Obama doesn't really understand America as a typical American does; his world view is reflective of his upbringing abroad, including that there is no such thing as American Exceptionalism. It's a shame we have a leader that beats up our friends and kisses up to our enemies. Israel, England, and even little Honduras experienced this firsthand. Even a FRENCHMAN, Sarkozy thinks he's a lightweight.

SeattleMark952| 4.5.10 @ 4:16PM

Anyone that replaces Obama will look awfully good in comparison (the bad times from Carter really helped make things clear for Reagan). The question is: How much damage will be done to the World and America in the mean time?

Rivenspeak| 4.5.10 @ 4:18PM

Are you guys all serious? There are maybe half-a-dozen intelligent posts, and 5-6 times that many idiotic posts. Don't you realize this is why nobody takes you wingers seriously? You spout off absurd nonsense, half of which you probably picked up watching some crack-pot demagogue like Beck. If you are really concerned about the direction of the country, try presenting coherent, rational arguments instead of rants like "Oh my God!! The secret Muslim radical communist President is going to steal and eat my children!!"

Joe Doakes| 4.5.10 @ 4:27PM

Rivenspeak . . . he will eat the willing first, that will be the Democrats in Congress and the Senate and whole bunch of down the ballot offices. We now know what the Democrat Party stands for; Communism. We've had enough of you and him.

Rivenspeak| 4.5.10 @ 4:32PM

See...that wasn't rational, and was barely coherent.

Honestly, I've had enough of rabid, frothing-at-the-mouth, right-wing nut jobs, who frankly, sound like a bunch of 3-year-olds having a temper tantrum because they aren't getting their way. Why don't you just leave our country and go move to Costa Rica with Rush?

Joe Doakes| 4.5.10 @ 5:04PM

Rivenspeak . . . Taking Mr. Limbaugh out of context will not win you an argument. We like this country the way it was founded, you are welcome to move to Europe or Vermont. Maybe you can find a pedophile for a roommate in Vermont to save on rent?

Margie| 4.5.10 @ 5:11PM

Sure sounds like the frothy hysteria of Liberal Reader! What, didn't have your morning latte today?

Al Adab| 4.5.10 @ 5:32PM

Double mocha chocolate DECAF.

Thomas Paine| 4.5.10 @ 7:03PM

... with a twist....

Hmmm| 4.6.10 @ 1:21AM

Hmm, interesting. Did Rush actually say he wanted to move to Costa Rica. I was just having a conversation with my uncle this afternoon where we were talking about this. I will not actually agree with what Rush may or may not have said as I haven't read his comments, as is obvious. I would like to poiunt out that, though the last part of Joe Doakes comment was a bit vitrolic, and that you may not agree with any of it, the first part, about eating the willing first, was completely rational, regardless of whether you or I agree with it.

I offer no opinion on whether the country will suffer first or the Party. I believe a bit of both is likely and both the country and Democratic Party will both suffer.. the country economically and in terms of foreign affairs, then the party during the next cycle of elections. I find this unfortunate because, as a Libertarian, I firmly believe, as our founders did, that the government has no place in the lives of the citizenry except in necessity, and that necessity, depth, length, and breadth of the involvement of government should be limited not by the will of the people.

Then again, I also believe in wacko ideas like a 2-term per house limit on congress. I understand that full-time politicians may be necessary today, unlike the part-time politicians who worked real jobs 9 months a year during the 19th century, but it should be SERVICE to go to Washington, not reward. Oh, and let's have a pay cap at 100,000 a year for both houses.. maybe 125k for the Speaker and President of the Senate (not the majority leader). I'm even willing to go to 150k for the President.

Joe Doakes| 4.6.10 @ 9:33AM

Hmmm; I'm with you on term limits but the pay needs to be tied to success. That is, the more the feds reduce the federal register and the debt, the more they get paid. We are both discussing a pipe dream this is going to get very ugly, friend of a friend works in the security establishment, stockpiling all sorts of nutso stuff. If the next election does not provide a real check on Obama - he is heading for the hills.

victor| 4.6.10 @ 6:31PM

Rivenspeek:
"Honestly, I've had enough of rabid, frothing-at-the-mouth, right-wing nut jobs,"

Well then, why are you still here?
Don't let the door hit ya,
where the Good Lord split ya.

Gary Bullwinkel| 4.5.10 @ 4:25PM

One of the kindest of the words is "naive."

You are being kind.

Fool is the regrettable answer. Regrettable since it is our Nation's mantle he wears.

And Fool's Gambits is all he and his admin seem to be able to come up with other than the military he seems to be able to not order around.

avery| 4.5.10 @ 4:36PM

Yes, 'naive' suggests one could learn wisdom.

I don't think he is teachable. He's someone who 'can't be told.'

Uncle Sam| 4.5.10 @ 4:38PM

Apparently Rivenspeak advocates 'Love It Or Leave It". My, how times have changed.

Rivenspeak| 4.5.10 @ 4:40PM

After 8 years of spouting "Love It or Leave It," I kinda figured that you all would just take the initiative and leave without having to be asked. But I guess not...how naive of me...

Ben Girdle-On| 4.5.10 @ 4:43PM

The Israel supporters are looking for new ways to game the system. They're out of tricks. Definitely the mother of all welfare queens. About time it stands on its own two feet. Save a few folks here and there, no one cares about Israel. The Israeli State is looking more and more like another crusades adventure gone awry. It'll go the way of the crusades and no big whoop. As a life long conservative, I say Obama is doing great vis a vis Israel. James Baker and Poppy Bush approve big-time as well. Ben Stein's a first class whiner and the worst economic prognosticator bar none. Send his butt to the Israeli Treasury (now that's funny!)

victor| 4.6.10 @ 6:35PM

Ben:
"As a life long conservative,"

Life long something, certainly not a Conservative.

" I say Obama is doing great vis a vis Israel."

Standing with the arabs pushing the Israelis into the sea?

Uncle Sam| 4.5.10 @ 4:51PM

Apparently Rivenspeak has forgotten the origin of their phrase.

Peter S. from SoCal| 4.5.10 @ 4:57PM

OK, so BHO is weak on Foreign Policy and apparently has trouble distinguishing the right time to use his intellect and charisma (bowing to the Saudis) and when to wield his Leftist elitism (snubbing Netanyahu). But the real question is WHEN will the leader of the Free World start to actually look out for American interests both overseas and at home (which by the way includes a secure DEMOCRATIC Israel).

Overseas -- SUPPORT for our troops...kiddies I have been in the BAD Zones overseas and the picture on the ground is NOT pretty. Our guys are fighting a drawn out battle plan in Afghanistan because our Commander in Chief has given the enemy our timetable for surrender (uh, I mean withdrawal, or uh whatever...). STRONG deliberate action and HEAVY weapons with swift surgical (Tactical NUCLEAR if necessary)strikes in the right places (Tora Bora for example) would show; a) our resolve to defend freedom, b) our resolve to do WHATEVER it takes to achieve victory, and c) our commitment to a stable Middle East. The UN will scream foul, the Liberal Elite establishment will shed tears for the poor desolate mountain goats (and in some cases people) that were sacrificed at the alter of American Imperialism, but at the end of the day...the TERRORIST SUPPORTING governments of the world will take notice and re-examine whether or not they want to F#%k with the USA.

At Home -- Bailouts DO NOT work. I have been current with my mortgage (ARM) and the bank still raised my rates and payments the first chance they got...so much for supporting those of us ABLE to support the economy. OK, so to fix the US, we should immediately open the State borders for health insurers to compete on a level (regulated) playing field. We need to Encourage inter-state trade to strengthen the Union (T. Jefferson 1785 or so), and immediately look for resources within the US....drill baby drill (not offshore, on shore in Alaska and ONLY allow drilling rights to companies with a commitment to research in Alternative fuel sources).

Immigration reform is not so difficult either...illegals will be deported to CANADA in the middle of winter and this will; a) teach the Canadians that an open border policy isnt the best idea, and b) remind the Mexicans that entry into the US can be hazardous to your health and friggin cold too.

Welfare reform -- establish a child-care training program in each established welfare zone which provides FREE childcare to welfare moms that go to work...McDonalds is ALWAYS hiring. After an established time they will be weaned form welfare and be free to pay for there own way in the world..the American Dream. Also I would make the housing available for PURCHASE. Experiements in several countries including Singapore have shown that if lower income families are encouraged to purchase their housing they tend to protect and respect the area in which they live. Now this isnt a Freddie/Fannie F-up program I am creating..it is a true form program where they are employed and subsidized by Fed funding that DIRECTLY pays for their housing thus eliminating defaults and foreclosures. The details we can discuss at a later date. As they grow and develop they move into higher and better housing until they are tax-paying and self supported citizens.

BHO should look at long tern centralist solutions as opposed to the elitist (Socialist) ones from which he apparently gains his core constituency.

We are and can once again prove the greatest DEMOCRACY in the World....

Finally, Perry/Pawlenty '12,a ticket we can all believe in!!!!!!!!!!!

jchenn| 4.5.10 @ 5:15PM

Housing projects in Jerusalem or a nuclear bomb in Tehran--which is the greater concern? To say that the Obama administration has a problem with proportionality is an understatement. I have seen this kind of foreign policy incompetency since the Carter years. Hopefully it will end in similar fashion.

Nuke09| 4.5.10 @ 5:35PM

When it comes to Lord O...."there ain't no cure for stupid".

Noway Jose| 4.5.10 @ 5:48PM

Ben Stein - You should disclose your conflict of interest in your article. Are you not Jewish? Do you not owe your first allegiance to your religious homeland and your second allegiance to your political homeland, the U.S.? Israel and the U.S. have conflicts of interest when it comes to dealing with Palestine and Iran. The U.S. has extended the protection of our nuclear umbrella over Israel, and all we want in return is a stop of building of settlements in one part of Jerusalem so that we can unite the surrounding Muslim countries against Iran. We don't even demand peace - just peace talks. We are giving far more than we are taking from Israel, and all with the focus on containing Iran. I don't want to go to war to defend an Israel that spits in our eyes and cannot accommodate simple requests. Your view on who is at fault over this recent political hiccup depends entirely on whether you are Jewish or not. As for me, I am an American first, and I do not see risking our necks for a country that spits in our face (but only after accepting billions in our foreign "aid") and actively undermines our efforts to defend them.

Uncle Sam| 4.5.10 @ 5:56PM

If I support Jesus does that make me Jewish?

Interested Conservative| 4.5.10 @ 6:08PM

Or Jesuit?

victor| 4.6.10 @ 6:37PM

Uncle Samuel:
"If I support Jesus does that make me Jewish? "

Yes, it does.
Romans 2:29
"But he is a Jew which is one inwardly __ and circumcision is that of the heart in the spirit and not in the letter whose praise is not of men but of God"

Greg| 4.5.10 @ 6:08PM

To comment on Ben Stein's piece I would have to lower myself and write pages and pages. The following comment by one of his supporters shows the type of people reading this article:
"Exactly right. Hussein Obama is a Muslim ape. Why is anyone surprised he's trying to appease his fellow towel-head jihadists? "
Hello, is there anyone out there with any intelligence? Is no-one embarassed to be associated with "journalists" who whip up this type of frenzy. I don't know if Ben Stein is jewish or not, but he should remember what similar demagogery did 70 years ago.

Uncle Sam| 4.5.10 @ 6:11PM

One need only go back a few years.

MSE| 4.5.10 @ 6:13PM

Appeasement has NEVER worked. Let's see, when the Romans tried to "appease" Attila the Hun, did that work? Nope, Rome was sacked and the Romans continued to live in fear and were slaughtered by the thousands. When Neville Chamberlain tried to "appease" Hitler, did that work? Nope, the world continued to live in fear and millions upon millions of innocent lives were lost because of "appeasement".
These are just two examples of a very long list of examples of where "appeasement" doesn't work. Obama and everyone who agrees with him are fools. Or worse...

Greg| 4.5.10 @ 6:16PM

And I just noticed that there is another guy up above (peter.s @4:15) who is advocating the use of nuclear strikes to a) defend freedom and b) promote a stable middle-east. How can anyone think that loosing WMDs will promote freedom and stability ? We need the men in white coats to come here quickly.

Peter S. from SoCal| 4.5.10 @ 7:03PM

Apparently Greg you need to re-read what I wrote...I am advocating winning the war..not pussy-footing for settlement like Chamberlin and Obama...as for demogogary 70 yrs ago..you do realize that you advocated BOTH sides fo the coin right, or do you need a dictionary?

In 1945 Truman looked at whether dropping the BOMB was worth 1 million AMerican lives...he made the choice to end the war once and for all...I am NOT advocating the use of Nukes, I am suggesting that you fight a war to VICTORY not defeat, and that the ara of Tora Bora is a wasteland where tactical nukes would be ideal..in fact the Joint Chiefs (Pentagon Report March 2002) also stated that the ONLY way to gain a total victory over Al Quada in Afghanistan would be to use tactical nukes in Tora Bora when we had the intel Bin Laden was there.

As for the achievment of TOYTAL VICTORY bringing peace...look at the historical record.

Allah Akbah M-F

Greg| 4.5.10 @ 6:20PM

MSE - the romans and attila the hun were separated by hundreds of years and thousands of miles. "Quick, we have another patient for you here!"

Dr. Bombay| 4.5.10 @ 6:25PM

Did someone call?

MSE| 4.5.10 @ 6:29PM

Let me add that I vehemently disagree with the racist comments made by some. My issue is only with what appears to be this President's penchant for appeasing terrorist supporting states like Iran. He's a fool, or worse, if he actually believes that publicly whipping Israel while kowtowing to rogue regimes will bring peace to the region. It will only make matters far worse and could lead to armed conflict in the region. With Israel in possession of nuclear arms and the fact that they're a very tiny state, if they feel threatened by Iran with nuclear arms I fear they won't hesitate to turn Tehran in to a glass parking lot. That is something we all have to understand can and will occur if Obama stays on his current path of appeasement with the Iranians.

MSE| 4.5.10 @ 6:33PM

Greg - google attila the hun and learn some history. You sound like an idiot when you spout off based on ignorance. This is what 2 seconds on google found for me:
"From his base in what is now Hungary, Attila, king of the Huns, waged war against the Roman Empire in the middle of the 5th century with such ferocity his reputation as the "Scourge of God" continues to this day. He shared power with his brother, Bleda, for a dozen years, but after 445 Attila was the sole commander of a force that extended from the Rhine to the Caspian and the western edges of China. He defeated Emperor Theodosius, almost overran Constantinople and invaded Gaul, where he was turned back by Roman commander Flavius Aetius and Visigoth king Theodoric in 451. Attila then invaded Italy in 452 and headed toward Rome. But Pope Leo I and Attila reached some agreement -- a deal based on extortion, divine intervention or simple pragmatism, it's hard to say -- that kept the Huns from sacking Rome. Attila died the next year and the empire he built crumbled within a generation."

Idiots like you should never breed.

Dr. Bombay| 4.5.10 @ 6:36PM

Come with me Greg.
And take this pill.

MSE| 4.5.10 @ 6:38PM

I think GREG is confusing Attila the Hun with Genghis Khan, emperor of the Monguls. But it's very easy for lefties to get confused, after all they're masters at revisionist history.

Dr. Bombay| 4.5.10 @ 6:49PM

I'll go easy on him.
Just a little ECT...

Greg| 4.5.10 @ 6:59PM

OK OK oK, so I made a mistake in my history.

But that does not mean that dropping nuclear bombs will usher in peace and stability. And I am not and dont think anyone is kowtowing to Iran etc... specify please how where and when .... GWB launched 2 wars because he was hasty and gung-ho, and I think a little bit of intelligence and forethought cannot go amiss. I think really people are upset because BHO is aware that settlements in E . Jerusalem is illegal, and the USA has always accepted that.

victor| 4.6.10 @ 6:39PM

Izzat ewe Bob?

Dr. Bombay| 4.5.10 @ 7:03PM

How did Greg get loose?
I'm getting Dr. Goldberg...

Peter S. from SoCal| 4.5.10 @ 7:09PM

The War on Terrorism began when IRANIAN backed terrorists attacked the US Marine barracks in Beirut....it has existed for almost 30 years and through half a dozen administrations; both Republican and Democratic. Whether Stein's logic is based on fact or belief, the truth is that Israel has been a staunch ally of the US who sacrificed there own citizens during Gulf I by NOT responding to scud attacks from Iraq. I dont know about you, Greg, but I have been on the ground in that region and I'd rather have an Israeli watching my back over a Leftist like you any day. At least I know if he is going to frag me, he is looking out for the preservation of Democracy in the region. The question isnt IF Israel will attack Iran, but WHEN...and how will we respond....

Greg| 4.5.10 @ 7:13PM

OK Dr Bombay, i recant now and submit to your correct line of thinking, just stop the ECT !! I now realise that I was foolish and and indeed an enemy of the people, and I know in my heart of hearts that we should attack and invade Iran and then turn to Saudi and purge that country of all the wrong-thinkers and then go on to pakistan ... we can always borrow more from the chinese also .... and if any body disagrees with our crusade for liberty, freedom, peace and stability then we will have to show them how wrong they are.

Peter S. from SoCal| 4.5.10 @ 7:22PM

You know what, Greg? I actually APPRECIATE your thoughts on here whether I agree with them or not. That is called SUPPORTING the Constitution of the United States. My only issue was you mis-reading what I wrote and, instead of offering intelligent discourse, attacking me by suggesting I need psychiatric attention. I live in So Cal so i deal with quite a few Liberals. What bothers me the most is that if you cant win the argument you simply dismiss alternative opinions as irrelevant and psychotic. I guess if you cant beat them, insult them.....I have fought and many of my brothers have died for your right to free speech...You're Welcome.

Dr. Goldberg| 4.5.10 @ 7:13PM

Ahmadinejad's birthday is October 28.
Mazel tov!

victor| 4.6.10 @ 6:41PM

April 20th is a lot closer.
Take an Anti-Semite to Lunch Day!

Red and Toddard come to mind.

Dr. Bombay| 4.5.10 @ 7:15PM

Just wait til I turn it on.

Aristocles| 4.5.10 @ 7:30PM

The venom of the supporters of this screed are almost as embarassing as its disingenuous logic.
To parrot Netanyahu ("1600 apartments for its citizens in Jerusalem. This is in Jerusalem, Israel's capital. Not a settlement.") can only be impressive to those ignorant of the fact that this is East Jerusalem, illegally annexed by Israel, as not only the UN but all previous US administrations have agreed.

Bohred| 4.5.10 @ 8:18PM

Yeah beans to you. The Jews got Eastt Jerusalem in the 1967 war, when they rebuffed another Arabic invasion to drive them into the sea. The Jews own Jerusalem by the most basic right of all, they took it from their attackers.

Abraham| 4.5.10 @ 10:08PM

They got what was coming to them.
Promise fulfilled.

Aristocles| 4.7.10 @ 6:32PM

That must be why the US has settlements in Tokyo and Berlin.
"Basic right" my eye; this is a land-grab.

Mahmoud| 4.5.10 @ 7:33PM

Odd there are Arabs living in West Jerusalem.

Greg| 4.5.10 @ 7:36PM

PeterS - before I leave, let me say that I agree on the importance of discourse, and we shouldnt categorize people as needing psychiatric help or indeed pigeon-hole them as lefty appeasers of Hitler (which I am not). I was surprised by some of the comments in this column and probably reacted with too much hyperbole of my own. Someone said about 200 years ago "by the conflict of differing sentiments a spark is struck and the light of truth obtained".

Dr. Bombay| 4.5.10 @ 7:40PM

Another satisfied patient.

Tom S| 4.5.10 @ 7:51PM

Here's a question for ya: has anyone ever met an intelligent black man? Has anyone ever met an intelligent jihadist? Has anyone ever met someone who fits both conditions?

Adolph Hitler| 4.5.10 @ 7:53PM

Apparently they let anyone on here.

Marnow| 4.5.10 @ 9:49PM

The only intelligent black person I have heard in public is a woman: Star Parker, she is brilliant.
Condy Rice was no dummy but had severe anger mangement problems vis-a-vis Israelis.

Gunner| 4.5.10 @ 10:05PM

Uh, have you ever met a black who DIDN'T have severe anger management problems? Star Parker is ok, but really, that's just some serious conservative affirmative action. If she were white she'd be a nobody.

Joe Goebbels| 4.5.10 @ 8:20PM

Hush, I told you I'll handle it.

Adolph Hitler| 4.5.10 @ 8:23PM

About time.
Heil me.

jane| 4.5.10 @ 8:24PM

Right on Peter...The history speaks. and Thank you for defending us, especially the ones that are speaking ill of things they know nothing of...

jschmidt| 4.5.10 @ 8:41PM

First it was Obama's apology tour. Then his dissing of UK, France , Israel and abandoning our allies in Eastern Europe where we were going to put a missile shield. He cozies of to China, Chavez when Chavez is aligning with Russia and Iran. Obama has shown himself to be a weak President. He will get nothing done when it comes to Iran because he has nothing to threaten them with and has proven he doesn't have the interest in acting tough.

Pres. Obama| 4.5.10 @ 8:47PM

I could talk them to death.

BigTex| 4.5.10 @ 10:25PM

Urine a$$hole. Go peddle your stuff somewhere else.

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BigTex| 4.5.10 @ 10:26PM

Urine a$$hole. Go peddle your stuff somewhere else.

Burlinton| 4.5.10 @ 9:08PM

I would love to see the POTUS get into the booth and try to win Ben Stein's money! I would bet $1000 to $1 on Ben!!!!

Jack Goldsmith| 4.5.10 @ 9:27PM

Obama will be kicked out of office in 2012 because Americans want a strong president, like G.W. Bush - someone who knows how to keep America powerful abroad and extend our dominance over the Middle East.

Joe Abbott| 4.5.10 @ 9:37PM

He's not a naif, he's an evil communist mohammedan nig-nog. Why isn't there a huge movement hundreds of millions strong to impeach this dangerous hitlerite?

Leveut| 4.5.10 @ 9:42PM

I love Ben like an idiot brother.

But what did the fool expect, voting for Obama?

Randy| 4.5.10 @ 10:20PM

Ben, the problem is with your people. The American Jewish voter will kiss the ring of the great Obama regardless of what he does. What don't you address the American Jewish Voter, also know as the Obama ass kissers.

Randy| 4.5.10 @ 10:29PM

Ben, the more I think about it, the more it pisses me off. It sure as heck is not the Dems that would defend your country to the end yet The American Jewish voter is up the Dem's butt. Shut your mouths you bunch of candy asses, you voted for him now you are getting what you deserve.

1+1=2| 4.5.10 @ 10:39PM

Bush's SAUDI pals finance Al Qaeda, 9/11 and global Jihad and y'all deduce that Obama is a Muslim sympathizer?

King Abdullah| 4.6.10 @ 12:03AM

I did appreciate the bow.

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Conservative Women's Forum :: Chapel Hill, NC » Blog Archive » Is Obama Naive? links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…Party The Orange County Republican Party The Republican Women's Club of Chapel Hill Triangle West Young Republicans Western Wake Republican Club « Small Bras and the VAT Is Obama Naive? Bowing to Tehran By Ben Stein on 4.5.10 @ 6:09AM There are words for national leaders who attempt to appease their enemies while at the same time shaming and humiliating their friends. One of the kindest of the words is…

david| 4.6.10 @ 12:58AM

strange that a bunch of people, who apparently have nothing better to do than comment to strangers, ( much like myself tonight) so easily call obama a fool, idiot, etc. Love, hate, or indifference aside, it is clear the man has already accomplished more in his life than anyone posting here possibly could have with their lives, lest you wouldn't have the time to rant. ps. america has always supported israel to the tune of billions a year, that is why Jews don't care about talk, and what is obviously only a diplomatic ploy that can't possibly have any real consequences outside of the small, very small chance that it will improve our image slightly in the broader muslim world. So Bibi gets embarrased, and morons who seem to think that words are actions have a field day.

Yosemeti Sam| 4.6.10 @ 1:40AM

So many Leftoids posting to this thread.

Please, please - oh, knowledgeable ones - pray tell, where oh where is that Mao Zedong White House Christmas tree ornament?

In Iran maybe?

For safe keeping?

Till another Christmas day?

Dennis| 4.6.10 @ 1:55AM

Everyone needs to pray that we can survive until the joke is out of office. He is making Carter look like a "peace through strength" president....God help us to make 'till 2012.

Bridget| 4.6.10 @ 5:55AM

Mr Stein's observations are correct. What's even more troubling to me is after just finishing "Intellectuals and Society" by Thomas Sowell, our president is repeating many of the statements made by the pacifists as well as acting on his statements. It is true, appeasement does nothing to bullies but emboldens them. Iran and its current crop of leaders are bullies. What's interesting is they have been on message for many years, i.e. they've done what they've said they will do. One way to judge is to see if the words match the actions - if they do, fear what they say as it is a good indicator of what they will do. If their words don't match their actions, fear what they do and disregard their words (our president is a good example of this - at least when he's pandering to the general audience and not the more liberal aspects - what he told audiences he considered 'of his beliefs' is what he is doing - what he tells the general audience has been shown to lie after lie after lie).

I am amazed at how quickly my country is going down the tubes. I never imagined seeing anything like this in my lifetime. This is what one reads about in history books as a lesson - not what one would hope to experience personally for a lesson.

Tim Buck II| 4.6.10 @ 7:02AM

There's not a thing - nothing - that Obama is doing that could not have been predicted before the '08 election.

Yes. He will spend us into bankruptcy. Yes. We will lose in Afghanistan. Yes. He thinks he can "negotiate without preconditions" with Iran - and yes, that process swill result in disaster. Yes. He announced last night that if we sustain a chem/bio attack we will NOT respond with nukes!!! No. We won't develop any new nukes. The list goes on and on and on.

Just what you'd expect from a hard-core, very far left socialist/communist community orgainizer who spent two decades in Reverend Wright's church. Not one surprise in the bunch that I can think of.

The surprise is the average American voter: They are the ones who are naive.

And "naive" is one the kindest words one might use. Credulous and stupid also come to mind. Also, those same voters might also be described as broke, unemployed, standing in an endless line for healthcare and soon to be defeated abroad by the one man wrecking-ball they chose to elect.

What a collection of utter fools we have become.

Think they like us abroad because we elected Obama? We are the world's laughingstock - with very good reason.

Rev. Wright| 4.6.10 @ 7:32AM

In your heart you know he's Wright.

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Bowing to Tehran « Freedom Corner links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

Bowing to Tehran « Freedom Corner Freedom Corner April 6, 2010 Bowing to Tehran Filed under: Political commentary — Puff @ 5:39 am By Ben Stein There are words for national leaders who attempt to appease their enemies while at the same…

Marc Jeric| 4.6.10 @ 12:25PM

Our situation is much worse than anybody here think it is. Abu Hussein from Kenya, our Community Organizer-in-Chief, has his system of local soviets in place, organized and financed (ACORN, SEIU, teacher and government employee unions). His corps of White House advisers tells the departments what to do; ther are called czars but I think a more appropriate name for them is komissars. After nationalizing health care we will have 40% of population on the dole; with the coming amnesty of illegal aliens that percentage will go up to 50% - and that assures them of perpetual power. Automobile industry is already 50% nationalized, so are some banks and mortgage companies. Cap & trade scam will lead to nationalization of oil & gas companies, coal mines, and electricity companies. This marxist train is gathering speed and I do not see any remedy. Their political tactics is straight from the soviet manual - demonize the enemy, us.

Margie| 4.6.10 @ 1:41PM

Mr. Jeric, and all~
Our country's hope are the young conservatives who put this together. They are a breath of fresh air, God bless them. I got this from The Patriot Post. Enjoy.

Margie| 4.6.10 @ 1:42PM

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skyblu5555| 4.6.10 @ 4:19PM

Self annointed Emperor Obama. "Too cool (in his narcissistic mind's eye) to be forgotten"...

Oh, by the way, our "Muslim Allies" complained to the Big O about the airport security policy which would target travellers from certain terroist targeted countries (Islamic) so O changed the policy- talk about "appeasement"! Instead, he has instituted a 'personality profile' model to harrass American travellers at US airports...get this...his dept of state visa issuance program is less stringent today than it was on september 10, 2001!!!!!!!! so he is big fat liar and manipulator and noone can stop him and his crowed (napolitano sec of homeland security: can you believe this????????????)? evil in sheep's clothing.

You know, politically correctness over safety and security of the American people... wake up, folks.

skyblu5555| 4.6.10 @ 4:36PM

Sorry, clarification:
1. Obama has done zilch to tighten up the Dept of State visa issuance program... in fact, the visa waiver program of yore remains in effect...travel agencies in Jiddah issue visas to whoever wants them...O has done nothing to reduce the threat to American air travelers to threats from the likes of the Nigerian underwear bomber in spite of what O states...NOTHING...
2. When Obama was about to institute new anti terror measures at airports in the US in the form of targeting travelers to and from countries on the list of 'terrorist' nations, our Muslim 'allies' (right!) belly ached so instead of this program O has instituted a 'personality profiling' program at US airports instead to 'target' potential threats to the USA, i.e. to harrass Americans and look like they are doing something....

3. Everyone on this blog is correct about Emperor Obama...in action and deed, Obama is about Obama, not America and so are his cronies and his lobbyist and elite packed Administration, and that is the horrible tragedy of this nightmare administration...it considers not the will of the American people nor does he care to reach consensus with the American people~ he PRETENDS to care...which is even worse! He is a big fat fraud.

He is a condescending, narcissistic anti American divisive polarizing destructive man to inhabit 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in at least seventy years. There is no certainty, no economic growth, no tranquility in Americ nor will their be any for many, many years to come.

Answers1| 4.6.10 @ 8:58PM

I fear for the continued existence of America.

John II| 4.6.10 @ 9:43PM

Well, I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Professor Obama is the wrath of God visited upon the Americano landscape. He destroyed the Clinton machine (good), and now he proposes to destroy the American dream (bad). So now he serves as God's warming to the Americanos: unless you get your house in order, THIS is your future. Which is to say, much of the past 50 years will become ALL of the next 50 years and beyond: a slave state created by a pseudo-black man whose half-ancestors from east Africa were never slaves. His other half-ancestors were hippie narcissists, and THAT is where he is coming from.

As the wicked Assyrians brought the wrath of God to the degenerate Israelites, so the wicked Obamanites now bring the wrath of God upon the degenerate Americanos.

Yet there is still time, and if the Obamanites are defeated, future generations of Americanos will recollect the Carter-Clinton-Obama axis as a wake-up call to the Americano Spirit, a stirring of the Sleeping Giant: in short, a Reckoning!

I plumb reckon.

Audrey| 4.6.10 @ 10:59PM

Operation Ajax.

"The 1953 Iranian coup d’état, on August 19, 1953 (and called the 28 Mordad coup d'état in Iran), was the overthrow of the democratically-elected government of Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh by the United States Central Intelligence Agency; [1] The crushing of Iran's first democratic government launched 25 years of dictatorship under Mohammad-Rezā Shāh Pahlavi, who relied heavily on U.S. weapons to hold on to power until he was overthrown in February 1979.[2] "For many Iranians, the coup demonstrated duplicity by the United States, which presented itself as a defender of freedom but did not hesitate to use underhanded methods to overthrow a democratically elected government to suit its own economic and strategic interests," the Agence France-Presse reported. - Wiki

We sow what we reap - had Iran been allowed to grow its democracy then things may have been very different today.

Sadly America, like Britian doesn't believe in freedom and democracy - just corporate interests.

Iran like China (no more Opium Wars) have learnt their lessons well, and are organising themselves accordingly. They have learnt to never trust the West - for western democracies have built their prosperity on the blood, sweat and tears of black, brown and yellow people, justified in the belief that our Christian values are far superior to those we rape, murder and make homeless; we are still at it.

We reap what we sow.

Unfortunately the game is up for America, for when America points the finger the rest of the world says hypocrite.

We reap what we sow.

Think about it.

John II| 4.7.10 @ 11:35AM

That's true. When you sow the seeds of moral smugness with politicized drivel from half-baked sources like Wikipedia, you reap the same.

I plumb reckon again.

Audrey| 4.7.10 @ 7:18PM

That just goes to show why most Americans have no idea whatsoever why we are in the mess we are - ignorance.

Have you ever wondered why America is broken?

Think about it...

serge baruch| 4.7.10 @ 7:02PM

Wiki is full of redundant Soviet propgandist material, Andrjusha.

Sic Semper Tyrannis| 4.7.10 @ 1:58PM

"On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." -H. L. Mencken, in the Baltimore Sun, July 26, 1920

Rational Person| 4.7.10 @ 11:02PM

Acheived in 2000.

Occam49| 4.11.10 @ 11:56AM

And trumped in 2008!

freddy| 4.7.10 @ 3:17PM

Problem is Obama isnt being naive. His job is to gut America and its standing in the world. If anyone looked at his history and associates that would be hard to detect.

This is what happens when an undeclared muslim is running the free world. And when the MSM is dead. We have no safety net as this man plays jujitsu with the truth. Too many big examples already.

Obama/Barry will spend until we are bankrupt and weaken us until we are toast, just watch.

He is most definitely the most dangerous man in the world for American 'exceptionalists'. Or plain old Americans who arent fetish revisionists.

sad| 4.7.10 @ 3:22PM

Not Christian. Not the professor he said. Not American. Not capitalist. not post racial. not post partisan. Dumb. Disbarred, like his angry harvard wife. Not proud of the US - an enemy of the state and an enemy of truth. Americans dont make every move a harmful one. Kiss iran arse, sure, blow off Israel despite the US resolution re east Jerusalem, sure.

dont read your signature HC bill, and force it down in a despotic way, slamming those who say but but, sure.

Obama is Hitler, a narcissist from nowhere with a disdain for our ways and truth. So we get Holder and those that hate us, running us.

My goodness we are in trouble if this man is not gone soon.....................

Rational Person| 4.7.10 @ 10:29PM

Hope you all are enjoying this orgy of blantant falsehoods, unreasoned antipathy, and blind racism.

Print out this thread, show it to any random person on the street, and he or she will quickly conclude that these commentators fall into one of threee groups:

- people with mainstream values and no access to actual facts

- people with repugnant values and no access to actual facts

- people who despatately require therapy

Please identify which you are and act accordingly.

Occam49| 4.11.10 @ 12:11PM

Why so few options?

How about some for your ilk:

-Far-left liberal Obama sycophants.

-Self anointed purveyors for what's best for all of us.

-ideologically driven Alinskyites who ascribe to a victim oriented society who must be take care of by government.

-Member of arrogant pseudo-intellectual elitists who think everyone disagrees with them are imbeciles

-People with repugnant ideals who decide what are or aren't "actual" facts.

-People who are hopelessly beyond any help that any therapy might yield

Rational Person| 4.30.10 @ 5:20PM

If I had to choose I guess I am probably an arrogant pseudo-intellectual elitist, although I don't think that everyone who disagrees with me is an imbecile. I think imbiciles are imbeciles, and I am not afraid to point that out whether they agree with me or not.

Roxanna| 4.8.10 @ 10:19AM

There are those who are not going to believe Obama is a muslim until he comes out and finally says it, if then. He admitted to George S. on This Week that he is a muslim, which George was quick to correct. He did not participate in the National Day of Prayer but participated in a similar muslim event. He said that the muslim call to prayer is the most beautiful thing he's ever heard. He's done absolutely everything to announce that he's a muslim, buy some people just refuse to see it. A lot of Jews in Germany refused to see the truth about Hitler until it was too late. Refusing to see the truth doesn't mean it's not the truth.

southern girl | 4.8.10 @ 10:34AM

Obama is a sissy.

LJ| 4.8.10 @ 11:55AM

Unfortunately, Obama is bowing to his masters. Any claims of his that he is a Christian are false and only there to lie to and mislead the voters. Remember the Bible passage: Proverbs 22:6 - "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it." And that is EXACTLY what Obama is doing by his anti-Israel stance because he was brought up and raised a MUSLIM! Islam is his religion--proof: he strikes out from government documents and mention of Islamic Extremists or Islamic Fundamentalist terrorists-you get the point. And if you want further proof, WHY did Obama, if he is a "Christian" as he professes to be, have any and all objects and references to the Christian faith covered when he gave a speech at a University last year. I cannot remember the name, but it DID occur. Google it!
Obama is trying to eradicate Christianity from the United States and is strictly prohibited from doing so by the 1st amendment to the Constitution: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the exercise thereof..." He cannot even remotely try to dismantle or criminalize Christians in favor of Islam because of the preceding clause. Although he has, to date, made no laws "respecting Islam", he sure is going to try. He has to abide by this Constitution or he is a traitor and deserves what all traitors to this country get. And this brings me the the 2nd part of the clause: "or PROHIBITING the exercise thereof." He is doing exactly that through his activist court appointees who have misinterpreted and twisted the meaning of the Constitution. Obama has others do his dirty work for him, he lacks the guts to do so himself.
Last, but not least, WATCH OUT as incumbent representatives and senators MOVE TO THE CENTER AND EMBRACE Constitutional vales with the heads in the noose in the upcoming November elections! DO NOT FALL for this age-old trick.

we| 4.8.10 @ 4:38PM

not naive, evil

hahahah| 4.8.10 @ 4:39PM

'rational' guess what it is you that is the fool.

go read one of obamas brilliant law papers to make yourself feel good (what, you cant find one??)

Rational Person| 4.8.10 @ 6:49PM

@Hahaha

The man was the Editor of the Harvard Law Review, for crying out loud.

If contributions to jurisprudence are so important, please cite those from Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and George W. Bush (hint: none of these three were lawyers).

But since I never mentioned legal expertise (which, whatever his other failings, Obama clearly has), I wonder what is your point?

Or do you simply fall into category 3?

Occam49| 4.11.10 @ 11:47AM

"The man was the Editor of the Harvard Law Review, for crying out loud. "

Wow !!! editor of a school newspaper [a political position, by the way, since as a student he obviously had no record of experience or expertise to make a claim of competency , and is in fact voted into the position by the editors and staff of that "epitome" of "objective publication" ] , who apparently never wrote a single article, is by this previous position, somehow automatically bestowed supernatural powers of wisdom ... this is how how you support and justify Obama's decisions?

By this you show your self to be ignorant of the basics of logical debate, and have rendered your case invalid by invoking the use of the use of the logical fallacy of "Appeal to Authority".

Obama, like Alsinsky, counts morons like you to carry the water of propaganda.

Rational Person| 4.28.10 @ 5:49PM

Try to follow, Occam. Since you are a student of logic, this will be clear:

-Haha averred that Obama has no legal expertise, and cited as proof the absence of any law articles by Obama.

- I submitted that graduating with distinction from the best law school in America, as well as serving as the editor of the most respected law journal in the country, as well as serving as a constitutional law lecturer at an another prestigous law school, serve as substantial evidence of legal expertise.

- Comments that the Harvard Law Review is "a school newspaper," that the Editor of same is elected and therefore incompetent, or that unsigned articles (which are common in law reviews) reflect ignorance of the role of these publications in American jurisprudence.

- I never stipulated that Obama's legal qualifications validated his policies. I did not "appeal to a higher authority;" in fact, I repeatedly asked what those qualifications had to do with Haha's criticism of the President. That question has not been answered.

- Finally, I have not carried any water for Obama regarding his policies, and I have not disseminated any propoganda. Everthing I have written is verifiably true. You think that I am either a moron or a liar for writing these things; prove it.

haha| 4.9.10 @ 5:45PM

Hey Rational - have you found one?? Didn't think so because he was political patronage from the start and as a professor was unpublished, not possible you say? go try to find evidence of his deeds, they are invisible.

But it should be easy enough, evidence of his talents should be online you would think, same as you and me. Go check. Invisible. And what you will find is smarmy/scary 'fight the smears' histories. Buddy you lost the high road miles ago.

Rational Person| 4.10.10 @ 4:59PM

Found one on the first page of a Google search - took maybe 5 seconds:

http://www.politico.com/news/s.....12705.html

Also, he was a lecturer, not a professor. That is, he was paid to teach, not publish.

You still haven't stated what any of this has to do with anything.

I may not be on the high road, whatever that means, but at least I am not drowning in ignorance and paranoia.

occam49| 4.11.10 @ 11:54AM

Let's see, an unsigned article. Wow that's bold! I'm impressed!!

oh, the point| 4.9.10 @ 6:10PM

obama is a mirage. zelig. his stated gift is to assume our shall we say white guilt and abundance of lawyers?

the leader of the free world is a radical deception, and the more you really learn the less you have to drink.

AuntieMadder| 4.10.10 @ 4:02AM

Does President Obama really believe that making Israel give up building on a few acres in Jerusalem will change the mood of a terrorist state pledged to annihilate all of Israel -- and to do whatever it can to bring down "the Great Satan…" The United States of America?

No, and that's okay by him as that's not his goal. He's a taqyah-using stealth jihadi, working from the most powerful office inside the Great Satan to help his Islamic brothers in the Middle East in their quest to "drive all Jews into the sea" and take Israel for Islam. He can - no, he already has - withdrawn the USA's support from Israel; she's now without any protection America may have once provided her.

What? Did you think he was appointed - uh, I mean elected - POTUS to work for the US? Or to work against the US? None of the above. He's here to work against Israel and to provide America's assistance to the Islamic Middle East in taking Israel. That his power as POTUS opens up the oppty to take America for Islam, too, is just a bonus, icing on the cake that is Israel.

John| 4.10.10 @ 8:57AM

I'm sorry Mr Stein, you gotta be kidding. So you think any adult would beleive that stopping some building in Jerusalem (which by the way isn't recognized internationaly as Israel's capital) will solve everything in Middle East. This is just a first step for god's sake!
The fundamental thing you seem not to understand is that, nor US nor Israel alone can bring Iran's leaders to stop their provocations. On this, the free world needs the help of Russia and China. That's why Obama has to show good will.
You talked about the 30s. Well let me remind you that without the help of USA and URSS, the nazis would never have been beaten. France and UK went on by themselves and were crushed (france within 4 weeks). Indeed US isn't France, but do you really think the US can stop Iran with China and Russa saying no don't do that?

Vet SK| 4.10.10 @ 2:34PM

Doesn't surprise me that so many that read the Spectator do not like Obama but to have this same group say that Netanyaho is a better friend to the United States then Obama? Come on, folks.
After 8 years of Bush stirring the Muslim pot in the middle east with his unjustified war, you can't at least understand that Obama can at least treat other national with due respect.

If Israel does not want our help with Patriot missle batteries, etc., they should just let us know. Obama is of course supporting Israel. But Israel also knows and take FULL advantage of the Jewish lobby in the US.

Naive. Not likely. Perhaps you and your readers should take another look at the organized foreign policy of this administration and the messes it is trying to clean up from the last Administration.

sub| 4.10.10 @ 7:36PM

Barack Obama, the worst American president in 100 years. He is a vile, arrogant, dictator-loving, freedom-hating narcissist who's every word and glance now revolt me. I simply cannot wait for this November to come and go, some limits finally placed on the power of this arrogant impostor.

as for Vet SK, the words "Jewish Lobby" identify you as a racist anti-semite. we have every right to seek the interests of our people. sorry that we're good at it, you feckless tool

Rational Person| 4.11.10 @ 1:09AM

Our people? Are you an American or an Israeli?

I like this thread and this group of deep thinkers. It fun in a "slow motion crash" kind of way.

Plus, I have learned this wisdom: People should not be deemed racist if they disagree with Obama. People should be deemed racist if they disagree with AIPAC.

georgew| 4.11.10 @ 8:58AM

A large minority of Israelis hold dual citizenship with the US; potentially, enough to influence a US general election through absentee voting.
Additionally, all Jews in the US hold a sort of citizenship in Israel, through the Right of Return.

Rational Person| 4.18.10 @ 12:14PM

Where Israel's existence is not at stake, however, I expect the President to vigorously pursue US interests.

And so should every American.

michael redbourn | 4.11.10 @ 1:30AM

I don't think Obama shamed Israel; he shamed himself!

Obama has now alienated every one of America's allies including the U.K.

http://www.ourchangingglobe.co.....a-failure/

He is now set on destroying the US economy and downgrading its military capabilities.

The question is no longer, "Can Israel survive Obama?", but "Can the US survive Obama?".

Mike

Steven G| 4.11.10 @ 1:47PM

After reading many of the comments here, I can see how Hitler could take power in Germany. So much hate and paranoia. The right hates Obama so much that they are rooting for the failure of this country.

really ned| 4.12.10 @ 10:13AM

This distinction is VERY important.

We hate obama or whatever his name is BECAUSE WE LOVE AND ARE ROOTING FOR AMERICA the country, and know that he does not.

Black, white, green, his race and religion are not the point AT ALL, we elected him didnt we?

The point is that millions see a bait and switch imposter who is opposed to our country. The kind who says America is bad, and wrong to those that will kill us, and weakens our resolve and pride and cohesion through tricks.

I HATE OBAMA *BECAUSE* I LOVE THE USA. Get it???

Dont hate because he's black - HE is the expert using his race card as we see (not us, media baiting to the contrary)

Dont hate because he's muslim - except if he is muslim while saying he is not, then you can be sure that he isnt innocent and this will lead to war.

So, fool baiters, get the narrative (you know the other guys narrative) straight..

Ken| 4.11.10 @ 10:36PM

Republican Ben Stein, former speechwriter for Presidents Nixon and Ford, best articulated his party's view of 'Scientists':

"I was thinking to myself the last time any of my relatives saw scientists telling them what to do they were telling them to go to the showers to get gassed --- That’s where science leads you. Love of God and compassion and empathy leads you to a very glorious place, and science leads you to killing people."

haha| 4.12.10 @ 12:20AM

Hussien the deceiver.

Folks in the future, never invest your future in a man who wont disclose his past.

A transparency SHAM, a true bait and switch candidate, thanks MSM. He's 100% trouble, you knew that the first time you realized just how ruthless his lies were.

He was disbarred as a lawyer because on his application he failed to mention all his names. He became President on the same omission didnt he?

This is not conjecture, just spend half an hour for your country and read about obama/barry and what he has done with his life, where and who his benefactors are (um he didnt pay for Harvard as community organizer).

A central deception in muslim eternal war is deception and guess what - America you dont even know if your LEADER is an undeclared muslim do you?? Many many objective signs are that he is, like his own mouth at youtube, but this is taboo already, like cartoons to some..

This little mystery here is the most important one to debunk or unravel in history. The free world kinda pivots on this. But very tough these days to be suspect of kool aid drinkers, thanks again MSM.

So obama has the economy, polity, foreign affairs, he'll gut them all and is off to a flying start. He cares about nothing ask his brother, or Hilary, that's why narcissist are efficient.

However if anyone has any evidence to the contrary, or evidence of ANY accomplishment of obama (say before he was a campaigner), I would like to hear/see it please because this man is just a scary holograph.

Oh and please omit most insults except those really necessary so a fool skeptic can follow along, thanks.

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Ben Stein on Obama: His Humiliation of Netanyahu, His Attempt to Appease Those Who W links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…with this one, this is so well-crafted and insightful, I’m hopeful he’ll forgive me for it… it was too good to truncate. Bravo, Mr. Stein, for your common sense, patriotism, and wisdom. Bowing to Tehran By Ben Stein | April 5, 2010 There are words for national leaders who attempt to appease their enemies while at the same time shaming and humiliating their friends. One of the kindest of the words is…

Cliff RL| 4.16.10 @ 4:49PM

Is the President "naive"?

Please -- each breath is taken to get another vote.

Rational Person| 4.18.10 @ 11:48AM

Sigh....

I feel it is good citizenship to respond to political nonsense when encountered, so:

- "Folks in the future, never invest your future in a man who wont disclose his past." Like G.W.Bush from ages 22 to 40? Obama's past is an open book; you just don't find the conspiracies there that you anticipate.

- "A transparency SHAM, a true bait and switch candidate, thanks MSM." I defy you to name one major policy (including Health Care reform, Cap-and-Trade, to TARP, Financial Regulation Reform, Tax Reform, and his posture in Afghanistan and Iraq) where Obama has significantly deviated from those policies he advocated as a candidate. Either you believe that (a) the American People are stupid and cannot understand policy positions, or (b) democracy does not work because people vote against their self-interest in favor of an appealing candidate. Which is it?

- "He was disbarred as a lawyer because on his application he failed to mention all his names." Obama was never disbarred.

- "He became President on the same omission didnt he?" No. See above.

- "This is not conjecture..." Correct. This is fiction.

- "...just spend half an hour for your country and read about obama/barry and what he has done with his life, where and who his benefactors are (um he didnt pay for Harvard as community organizer)." Name these malevolent benefactors who bankrolled Obama's education in the hopes that, two decades later, they could elevate him to the presidency. Ooh, those crafty, mysterious benefactors! Or perhaps he just took out student loans, which is what he actually said and was corroborated by his tax returns.

- "A central deception in muslim eternal war is deception..." A tautology - how novel.

-" and guess what - America you dont even know if your LEADER is an undeclared muslim do you??" You don't even know what has been denied!? If denied, it must be true!

- "Many many objective signs are that he is, like his own mouth at youtube, but this is taboo already, like cartoons to some.." Cartoons like Jeremiah Wright? Which is it: Black Liberation Theology Radical or Closet Muslim Creating the Caliphate? I get confused. If only there were a simple explanation (say, he is a moderate Christian who attends service infrequently), then it would explain all.

- "This little mystery here is the most important one to debunk or unravel in history. The free world kinda pivots on this. But very tough these days to be suspect of kool aid drinkers, thanks again MSM." This is the most important mystery in the history of the World? A man says he is Christian, attends a Church (that many hate), baptizes his daughters, swears the Oath of Office on a Bible, and, by the by, has a father of a different faith. This is an enigma for the ages? Buurp! (Koo;-aid coming back up).

- "So obama has the economy, polity, foreign affairs, he'll gut them all and is off to a flying start." Yes, the economy and foreign affairs were 100% perfect when he took office. Its not like the country was embroiled in two wars and enduring the greatest economic downturn since the Great Depression; its all Barry's fault.

- "He cares about nothing ask his brother, or Hilary, that's why narcissist are efficient." I don't know what to say to this; have you spoken to Obama's brother? Or to Hillary? Please, tell us of your insights into these relationships gleaned from your discussions...

- "However if anyone has any evidence to the contrary, or evidence of ANY accomplishment of obama (say before he was a campaigner), I would like to hear/see it please because this man is just a scary holograph." This is tiring. Haha, let me offer this: If you are a self-financed graduate of an Ivy League College and/or Law School, are a civil rights and/or corporate attorney; are a six term state senator; and/or are a United States Senator (for at least two years), then I will shut up and quit this thread.

Otherwise, your raving about Obama's experience comes off as inadequacy in your own.

- "Oh and please omit most insults except those really necessary so a fool skeptic can follow along, thanks." Okay, I think I got it: I am to include only those insults necessary for a fool skeptic to follow along. But in what ways can I insult you such that you increase your understanding? I am curious to learn...

Greg | 5.12.10 @ 5:28AM

The problem with Obama is he is an enigma. He's inscrutable. That tells me that even though he is the President of the United States he is simply saying what he has been told to say by his advisors. What do I mean by that? It's real simple, the Republocrats, the unelected elite who are never voted out of office, have an agenda: to promote global conflict in any way they can. So how do they do that? Well, Obama the liberal demagogue, the hero of the downtrodden non-white masses, tells them what they want to hear while the real America prepares for war against Iran. Sure, Ahmedinejad has it coming, but don't be at all deceived, Obama will achieve his purpose whether he believes in it or not. It is the price of attaining power: he has to do as he is told. Maybe along the way he will do some good as well: provide healthcare for the poor, and whatever else is calculated to buy votes in 2012, but when it comes time to bomb Iran he will step up to the plate and play the tough guy as Clinton and Bush did before him. Everything that comes before that is designed to lull the Islamo-fascists into a false sense of security. Talk diplomacy while preparing for war - exactly the MO Clinton employed before he bombed Serbia. Now Billary will be standing by while Obama does the same to Iran.

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