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Palin to the People

By Robert Stacy McCain on 3.29.10 @ 6:08AM

“Lame-stream media” stereotypes the Tea Party crowd.

LAS VEGAS, Nevada — Doug from Reno was standing about 50 yards from the stage at Saturday’s “Showdown in Searchlight,” two hours before the official noon start of the rally featuring Sarah Palin. He was part of a huge crowd already gathering for the big first-day event of the Tea Party Express tour, and U.S. Highway 95 was backed up for more than a mile in either direction as thousands more made their way into the dusty lot a couple miles north of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s hometown.

He was wearing a National Rifle Association cap and mirrored sunglasses, and had a sticker on his shirt promoting a conservative website, DumpReid.com. Doug held aloft a large hand-lettered sign: “Karl Marx and Mao Were Not Founding Fathers!”

So far as most major media organizations are concerned, he was just another dangerous right-wing crackpot, but most major media organizations never actually talked to Doug or others like him among the thousands of grassroots activists who showed up in Searchlight. With few exceptions, what brought reporters to Saturday’s rally was the opportunity to do what they have been doing in their Tea Party coverage for more than a year: Highlight negative “gotcha” moments to discredit the movement as a dangerous collection of hate-filled, misinformed lunatics, meanwhile asking attendees questions along the lines of, “Who do you consider to be the leader of your movement?”

In that sense, Saturday was a two-for-one press-corps special, providing the media a chance to play “gotcha” with Palin, the GOP’s 2008 vice-presidential candidate who is widely presumed by reporters to be a Tea Party leader, if not in fact the leader. Palin did not disappoint either fans or detractors at Searchlight, using her speech to assail the media for promoting Democratic claims that the movement is… well, a dangerous collection of hate-filled, misinformed lunatics.

“We’re not inciting violence,” Palin proclaimed from the windswept stage that organizers had erected on the back of a flatbed truck. “Don’t get sucked into the lame-stream media lies.”

Palin’s denial of the accusation, wrapped in an anti-media message, drew cheers from the enthusiastic crowd and was quickly headlined by the same “lame-stream” reporters whom she targeted. The national press corps seems to be pursuing the idea that Palin can be used to discredit the Tea Party movement and vice-versa, as part of a mutually-reinforcing negative propaganda campaign intended to convince America that the only people who oppose the Democratic Party and its policy agenda are (you guessed it) a dangerous collection of hate-filled, misinformed lunatics. So any event that connected Palin to the Tea Party was sure to draw a swarm of reporters, only too happy to depict both the crowd and the featured speaker as irresponsible dingbats.

The good news for conservatives is that the “angry mob” — to borrow a phrase made famous by the Democratic National Committee’s spokesman last August — now includes a majority of the U.S. electorate. The same polls that show Americans’ continuing to reject the health-care plan that Nancy Pelosi rammed through Congress also show that the Tea Party movement has higher favorability ratings than either major political party.

Whatever those polls say about Palin, she is drastically more popular than Pelosi. At least the Democratic Speaker of the House has the consolation that she’ll probably get re-elected by her California constituents in November, whereas Harry Reid now appears utterly doomed to defeat. Polls show that, if the election were held tomorrow, Reid would lose to any likely challenger among the dozen or so Republican Senate candidates who are contending in the June primary — all of whom were making the rounds shaking hands at Saturday’s rally.

Who will be the next Senator from Nevada? There’s been no opportunity to interview Vegas oddsmakers since I arrived here Thursday, but “Not Harry Reid” is certainly the odds-on favorite in that race.

The idea that Reid, the Democratic Party and their policy agenda are overwhelming unpopular in Senate leader’s home state is considered proof to the press corps that the citizens of Nevada are a dangerous collection of hate-filled, misinformed lunatics — like David Moredock and his wife Nancy, who showed up at the Searchlight rally to hear Palin speak and therefore are, according to press-corps logic, presumed to be illiterate nutjobs.

In fact, Moredock is a Las Vegas pharmacist who says his decades of experience have convinced him that the new law signed last week by President Obama “is not the way to fix” the health-care system.

“Mandating and imposing is not fixing health care,” Moredock told me Saturday morning when I stopped to talk to him after taking photos of the anti-Reid signs he and his wife were holding. “We want health-care done right, but this is not the right way.”

OK, so what about Doug from Reno, the guy with the sign and the NRA hat? Does he fit the media stereotype of a Tea Party activist? It should be pointed out that the slogan on Doug’s sign was a statement of historical fact — neither Karl Marx nor Mao Zedong were among the Founding Father — and it is also a historical fact that some of Obama’s associates have praised Marx and Mao. Anyone in what Palin called the “lame-stream media” who dismissed Doug as just another kook could have learned a lot just by talking to him.

Doug Rodrigues is “part Chinese, part Hawaiian and Portuguese,” he explained. “In 1951, my Chinese grandfather returned to Macau, where he had some land across the river in Canton. That’s when Mao and the communists were taking over. He crossed the bridge into Canton and he was immediately arrested and thrown into prison, along with the other political prisoners. Most of them were either executed or died in prison. That’s the last we heard of him.”

Doug’s concerns about socialism — “which is where I believe the country is heading, with the present administration,” he says — may seem far-fetched and indeed, it is rather unlikely that anything like Mao’s revolution could come to America. Why? Primarily because there are so many Americans like Doug, people who believe in freedom. They are proud to be part of that dangerous collection of hate-filled, misinformed lunatics otherwise known as “We the People.”

About the Author

Robert Stacy McCain is co-author (with Lynn Vincent) of Donkey Cons: Sex, Crime, and Corruption in the Democratic Party (Nelson Current). He blogs at The Other McCain.

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Louis Jenkins| 3.29.10 @ 6:51AM

If the Tea Party, Robert McCain, or any of us are expecting any sympathy from the State Media crowd, well, it's just not going to happen. Christ himself could be behind the podium and the media would find something to lie about or a false accusation to make. The truth, or fair reporting, just ain't in 'em. What is important is that we continue to believe in our just cause, and that none of those Marxist fabrications have reason to exist in the USA.

Otis, my man!| 3.29.10 @ 10:22AM

Well said Louis.

It would be nice if the lame-stream media were informed enough to point out that Nevada is the only state whose ballots contain the "None of the above" option. If the Republican candidates should prove unpopular, I would not be surprised if Harry Reid still lost to "None of the above."

Son Of Sam| 3.29.10 @ 11:08AM

who gives a frog's fat ass what those fossils in the dinosaur media think about anything? They're completely out of touch with the American people & their ratings and readership are plumeting, which is why they're laying off employees left and right.

We are the future, not them.

stand strong until freedom dawns
Son Of Sam

Pete| 3.29.10 @ 1:23PM

Son of Sam,
Excuse me for a moment, but your handle, SOS, do you know your own history and the attrocities SOS did to human lives and his use of a handgun to change lives forever, until he was caught?? Strange!!!

pugsley| 3.29.10 @ 2:50PM

Hey Pete-did you ever stop to think his dad might have been named Sam?

Osamas Pajamas| 3.30.10 @ 1:18AM

Maybe he's the son of Samuel Adams --- Sam Adams --- and the Democrats who know anything about Sam Adams must instantly despise him, for he was an eloquent American revolutionary. Yee haa.

Ken Newton| 3.29.10 @ 11:40AM

Louis Jenkins speaks truth. The Tea Party Express is the only way people are going to get an accurate perspective on what conservatives can do to save our country from socialism.

Ned| 3.29.10 @ 2:02PM

Louis - not to nitpick, but I think the lame-stream would be beside themselves to "find something to lie about or a false accusation to make..." if Christ were on the podium... He is as ill regarded by them as Mrs. Palin - "Sarah", of course, being a Biblical name... just saying, ya know...

Paul| 3.29.10 @ 2:34PM

Christ himself could be behind the podium and the media would find something to lie about or a false accusation to make

Then maybe all the 'Christians' on the right should follow the teachings of Jesus, instead of the quitter from Alaska.

Louis Jenkins| 3.29.10 @ 3:23PM

Paul, even Christ said "Let us cross over the river and rest underneath the trees." But last week a poster on this site mention Jesus' anger towards the money lenders and changers in the Temple and his actions towards them. One thing we can all agree on here is that our Freedom and Liberty is granted by the Maker. It does not come from the hand of man. Our government seeks to make itself in the image of God.

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 5:17PM

Beautiful post, Louis.
"A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in a setting of silver." Prov. 25:11.

Louis Jenkins| 3.29.10 @ 6:20PM

Thanks Margie, but I'm only quoting what Scripture and the Constitution tells us. I don't deserve any credit. These guides give us the knowledge of what's right or false.

Paul'sMom| 3.29.10 @ 3:36PM

Paul,
Are you still pining for your false messiah currently occupying the White House? Occupying the White House now
is no messiah, but actually Alibama and his Forty Thieves.
.

Miss Alabama| 3.29.10 @ 5:34PM

With Tea Party activists screaming "Nigger! Faggot!" to the top of their lungs at members of Congress, how the hell can you expect "fair" reporting to "our just cause"? God, you people are grotesque!

JimE| 3.29.10 @ 6:03PM

Alabama hag, got proof troll? Your democrat masters admitted they heard nothing.

Trauta Kowatski| 3.29.10 @ 6:15PM

"God, you people are grotesque"

Miss Alabama, you got that right. Just look at the above comment.

Eddie R. Tatum| 3.29.10 @ 5:46PM

You Tea Party enthusiasts are bitter to the bone. You spew your putrid hatred at your gatherings, and good people all over this country are appalled at your hateful incivility. You will never earn respect from civilized people. Bigots! All of you!

JimE| 3.29.10 @ 6:04PM

Eddie, how's that hate Bush thing working out for you moron?

Louis Jenkins| 3.29.10 @ 6:24PM

Well, the Tea Parties I've been to are without putrid hatred, bigotry, or hateful incivility. If beginning the meetings with a prayer are any of those things then I guess I've missed the boat somewhere. We're not out to earn respect, only to point out the errant ways of our leaders and to place this nation back on its foundation-the Constitution.

Alan Brooks| 3.29.10 @ 10:45PM

Palin is campaigning for the hack in Phoenix as we write; a guy whose chief qualifications are based on being tortured in 'Nam.
You people have passed the point of denial; you are fooling some-- but only yourselves.

Ken (Old Texican)| 3.29.10 @ 7:20AM

Mr. McCain, I posted this on one of the blogs in answer to a fellow. I think it is appropriate here as well.
Did you get out to Searchlight?

Notta,
I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt here, and observe that you are one who "just wants to get along together".
Admirable.
So do most of us here.
The problem we have is what we feel are mass confiscations of our freedoms going on in DC and some States where the govts. there are driving their economies into the ground.

I personally am from Texas so the latter is not so much of a problem here. For instance, we have limited medical liability laws here...and therefore the lowest insurance costs in the country....and no shortage of great doctors.

We are not dividers. We are pretty much where we grew up and (smile) some grown old. We see ourselves driving right down the center as always, but observe that a tight coterie of media types and government types have yanked our whole country off into the LEFT hand ditch while positioning themselves "above it all".
So maybe instead of communists, (pardon the shorthand), maybe we could label those folks "Kamikazis"...because to get into the Left hand ditch, one has to cross the lanes of oncoming traffic.
...But see, we are not mad at the folks along for the ride in the "bus"..........heck, we are in the busses as well. We don't like the "drivers".....and the navigators in charge right now.

Paul from SA| 3.29.10 @ 11:35AM

Ken,

There was a big article in the (lib paper) SA Express on Sunday about the big (fake) doctor shortage in Texas. I think the article was an attempt to blame doctors for what's going to happen to our medical care to mitigate the damage to the Democrat party over passing ObamaCare. Apparently, there is a primary care physician shortage in rural areas of Texas, but not in the major cities. But you wouldn't know that by reading the headline or the info on the front page.

Obama and the Democrats now own the issue of medical care. Send all complaints to the Whitehouse.

JS| 3.29.10 @ 2:07PM

Paul from SA,

I live in one of the larger cities in rural West Texas. We do have a shortage of doctors in small towns here in the panhandle, but people drive to Amarillo or Lubbock to see the doctor. We have first rate care in both cities including a burn unit and a level one trauma center in Lubbock. Doctors are like any other businessmen, they go where their customers are. As West Texas loses population, we will lose doctors. Its part of it. I don't blame the doctors, I blame the people who think living in the big city is the way to go. I've lived in Dallas, Houston and Austin and I took a pay cut to come back to West Texas because big cities suck.

Paul from SA| 3.29.10 @ 9:25PM

I used to live in Odessa.

It was incorrect of me to include the word "fake" in my comment, but wanted to make a point about a misleading headline. I know liberals... they are already preparing citizens to NOT blame Obama when our health care system begins rationing.

Also, I should have said the article specified there's a shortage of primary care physicians in rural areas, not doctors.

As I try to learn more about this monstrous HC bill, no one at this time can foresee all the consequences. Will this induce more doctors to move toward or away from certain areas, geographically, for financial reasons, for certain customers or to avoid Medicare?

I know, big cities suck. San Antonio has grown so much, so fast, people keep moving to the outskirts of town, only to be engulfed by a growing monster. The congestion sucks.

Alan Brooks| 3.29.10 @ 10:49PM

"For instance, we have limited medical liability laws here...and therefore the lowest insurance costs in the country....and no shortage of great doctors."

You will need both, with the increase in violent crime and the swamping of emergency rooms in Texas-- as your companeros from south of the border come north to keep you company.

Ret. Marine| 3.29.10 @ 7:22AM

And when was the last time a lame-stream liar even stepped into the heartland of these United States. Anyone. Let alone get a grip of what the concerns of the average citizen might be.
Yes is must be hard to ask questions, real questions. I don't care to be called anything other than a Patriot and if this makes me a right-wing-nut to their minds, so be it. I'll take that anyday especially from a slobering love aquaitence fellow traveler common to us wing-nuts as the lame-stream liars. What do they know of our love and hard-wired personalities. We, well most anyway, work for a living, pay our taxes and go to Church on a weekly basis. We thank the almighty for our blessings, you know the ones like freedom of expression and the freedom to peaceably assemble. Maybe if these Moa mumblers fully understood these concepts, they'd be less inclined to be lieing to the unwashed masses and running their rags to the ground.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 3.29.10 @ 7:27AM

Sarah Palin made a mistake endorsing John McCain. He stands precisely for what Sarah Palin claims she's against. In that sense, she has no political grounding, simply appearing as another sock puppet for Washington.

If you get a chance visit J.D. Hayworth''s campaign site. You'll see the difference even if Sarah Palin can not.

Lullaby's, Legends and Lies| 3.29.10 @ 8:27AM

I hear you Bill, she shouldn't have endorsed him, but she's just showing loyalty to someone whose earned it, and that's not a terrible character flaw in a person. I can forgive her for this one!! And McCain, I love the man, he's a great Patriot, with an historic story of service to his Country, but, he's a Democratic Party enabler now, and part of the problem, so he needs to go. John, it's time to retire buddy, go play golf or something?

Louis Jenkins| 3.29.10 @ 8:37AM

I guess Palin hitched her horse to the McCain wagon out of loyalty, which is admirable. But I too favor Hayworth over Johnny boy. John McCain's time has passed. He has my thanks for not bowing to the temptation that the Viet Cong laid before him while he was in the Hilton. He had principles and stuck to them. Recently he has began to speak as a Conservative. Unfortunately, his politicial past has caught up with him and I secretly question his sincerity, particularly while JD Hayworth is applying the pressure. While Palin is a power to be reckoned with I believe her support for McCain has caused doubt amongst those of us who support her. Is this business as usual? We've had enought of that.

Mike Rogers| 3.29.10 @ 8:54AM

Like your other respondent, I'd like to draw the distinction between Palin showing admirable loyalty to the person who brought her onto the national stage, vs up and coming RINOs who reach out and seek McCain's endorsement.
Admirable man, McCain may be, but his politics should cause voters to run from any candidate he endorses, and twice as fast from those who actually seek his endorsement.
I would lose respect for Palin if she were actively reaching out to RINOs elsewhere in the country.

Grzmlyk| 3.29.10 @ 9:56AM

While many here are rightly pointing out that Palin was showing loyalty, I'd like to point out that this quid pro quo is an irreducible element of politics. Horsetrading, back-room deals and compromise are always going to sully a politician if they have any hope of attaining great heights. You cannot succeed in a vacuum.

That's the reality of politics, and that's why so many people become disillusioned by polticians they once championed.

I'm not saying I like it, and this reality does NOT give a pol carte blanche to wander off the reservation and live exclusively by inside-the-beltway rules. Far from it. But whenever politics enters the picture, you have no choice but to compromise. The question is, how much?

Ike's command of the ETO is a great example. I'm not an expert by any means, but I know he had to bow to a lot of Britain's demands (not to mention FDR's), and in fact we had no choice but to stand by while the Russians captured Berlin - which led to the Soviet occupation and the Berlin Wall.

We should continue to support those politicians whose general world view reflects our own, and we should hold them to it in an overall sense - and if they can persuade us of a different point of view, then it is their job to to the persuading. But you are never going to win the game without getting your uniform dirty.

I say this because those who hold a third party up as the holy grail of political purity are not living in reality. If the Republican party were replaced by some idealized third party, within 10 years that party would look exactly same as the GOP it replaced.

Politics is inherently very ugly, and unfortunately we live in a world where every politician is expected to carry home his or her share of loot for his or her state, and if somebody is going to give you "this," it's because you've promised to give them "that."

Ken (Old Texican)| 3.29.10 @ 10:16AM

GRZ,
Well said, well said.....well balanced as usual. Thanks.

Grzmlyk| 3.29.10 @ 10:20AM

Thanks, Ken.

BTW, the more I see of Sarah, the better I like her!

Ken (Old Texican)| 3.29.10 @ 12:55PM

GRZ,
You know, one of the cutest little anecdotes in her book..."I was so upset that "they" would see the "D" I earned in a particular class in college".

Grz,
I just Laughed MAO. Is that cute or not? In the league I've played in for thirty plus years...my "forced errors" are as the sand grains on the beach.
...........Let's consider a moment a scenario..."DeMint-Palin 2012". They would get a hundred thousand Team America votes.

Have you kicked back and read her book yet?
GRZ,
reviews just can't capture her thoughts and her cajones that one sorta' picks up accidentally there.

I am going to be fascinated with her efforts leading up to November 2010.

Grzmlyk| 3.29.10 @ 2:00PM

Hi Ken:

I have not read her book yet - I'm so far behind in my book reading. But I will. I look forward to it.

As to Margie below, I totally agree, the perfect is the enemy of the good. I think Sarah's the real deal when it comes to conservative values, and I'm satisfied that she will never succumb to the Ruling Class mentality. If she did, she'd have to pay the consequences. I'm reasonably sure that her support for McCain is simply paying a debt. It’s difficult to stomach, but hopefully it’s a footnote in her political life.

Nick below: Your point is well made, and again, I confess I’m no expert on the topic. It's true the Soviets incurred a lot of casualties taking Berlin, although there were many strategists on the US side who argued for the US to finish the Reich off (if memory serves, Patton wanted us to keep going east and deal with the Soviet Bear immediately).

And the US taking Berlin would have certainly eased the transition of post-war Europe, and FDR (and then Truman) knew it. You never know - we might have used the Bomb there, too, in order to avoid casualties as we did in Japan.

But there was a huge political component to our acquiescence to the Russians. We took a lot of casualties invading Europe, but they pale in comparison to what the Soviets suffered prior to 1943. It was their soldiers who had been decimated by Hitler's army, and it was they whose homeland was overrun and their civilians who met with German atrocities first hand.

So we had an obligation; with no Eastern Front to attrit (if that's a word) the German army's resources, I don't think our invasion of Normandy would have even been planned, let alone succeed.

chuck| 3.29.10 @ 11:12PM

There is an excellent book called "The Fall of Berlin" by Antony Beevors(I think the spelling is correct). The fighting was beyond brutal, just unimaginable. Ike had no desire to take Berlin, it was in what was going to be the Soviet area of occupation. In fact, at the end of the war, American GIs withdrew to our zone of occupation, after meeting with the Russkies further East than was planned.

I think D-Day still would have succeeded, but at a much higher cost.

brutus6| 3.29.10 @ 2:52PM

ditto, Ken. I always stop to see what Grzmlyk has to say. Always very linear, and always well said.

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 12:37PM

I agree too, and as usual, well said, Grz.
That's the conclusion I've come to in my own life concerning (especially) politics, though you could apply that to just about everything in life. For example, where can one find the perfect spouse? :^) You can find near perfect, but not perfect! Where can one find the perfect teacher or pastor or anything?
Something Sarah said recently was that when voting you're voting for the ideas, not the person. (I'm paraphrasing). The Republican party's platforms are correct and so we just need to back more conservative nominees.
That's why I like Sarah so much. She isn't perfect either, but she makes perfect sense!

Nick| 3.29.10 @ 1:10PM

Grzmlyk,

One thing about the Soviet capture of Berlin.

By some accounts, there were 100,000 Reds killed in the taking of Berlin.

After all the casualties we had suffered during house-to-house fighting across France, Gen. Eisnehower had no qualms with letting the Soviets take the city.

I agree with Ike. Better to let Reds die for the sins of their leader, rather than us.

Grzmlyk| 3.29.10 @ 2:29PM

Hey Nick:

I just did a little reading (as opposed to relying on memory) of the taking of Berlin - looks like you are closer to right than I was.

According to many estimates, the Russian casualty rate was as high as 300,000. Of course Berlin had already been carved up into 4 sectors at Potsdam, and that was a political decision. And while controversy still swirls around the decison not to take Berlin, it is certainly plausible that the Allies felt that, with the outcome already determined, might as well let the Commies die as opposed to US troops.

:-)

Cpm| 3.29.10 @ 10:22AM

Palin showed admirable loyalty by campaigning for McCain, and if Hayworth prevails in the primary, I have no doubt she will campaign for Hayworth in the fall. Funny, when I see Palin I think the exact opposite of Washington.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 3:42PM

Palin is the worst of Washington by a factor 50, at least. She is petty, spiteful, vindictive, immature, and purely show.

Grzmlyk| 3.29.10 @ 4:01PM

I thought you guys were only sent over here by the Daily Kos on big news days.

Get lost?

Grzmlyk| 3.29.10 @ 4:04PM

Oh, I get it. You put in the wrong name. You meant, "Obama is petty spiteful, vindictive, immature and purely show."

You should be more specific, though: His regard for America is purely show. He has been a very consequential president, just as rat poison is a very consequential beverage choice.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 4:07PM

Oh ok.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 4:06PM

If you get upset hearing a statement like that, that's your issue not mine.

Grzmlyk| 3.29.10 @ 4:11PM

Upset? No, no, you're good.

It's not the fools who upset me.

It's the people who should know better.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 4:16PM

Buying the narrative that Palin and her handlers want people to believe is not "knowing better". I will not try to convince you otherwise though -- you clearly have your mind made up. Instead I will let time take its course. I cannot predict with her future with 100% certainty, as Palin may just fade into obscurity someday, but I am fairly sure her true nature will more plainly be exposed to everyone (minus the few who refuse to see no matter what reality shows them).

Grzmlyk| 3.29.10 @ 4:25PM

On the contrary, my mind isn't made up in terms of the role she should play in the conservative movement.

I believe she is genuine; that's what I like about her (she's not "of Washington" at all, either literally or figuratively).

I've never mistaken her for the thinker Reagan was (though, thank god, he was NOT an intellectual). But Reagan was tarred as a moron by the left, and he was anything but. Quayle was tarred as a moron, but he was not. Bush was tarred as an idiot, and he was not.

Character assassination is always the first volley tossed out by liberals. The truth is always incidental.

If I learn something about Palin that shows her to be of dubious character, and it comes from a reliable source, I would take that into consideration.

But calling her names in a drive-by posting isn't going to cut it, and the smears that the press have come up with to slime her are pretty thin gruel indeed.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 5:08PM

My view of her is not shaped by some kind of brainwashing by anyone in any media of any flavor, and I know I'm not alone by a long shot. There are those who very justifiably have the negative impressions they do about her, regardless of any "smearing" going on by anyone. At the least, a healthy skepticism over the assumption of potential greatness is a safer posture to take toward anyone seeking influence of such magnitude. You can see that not once did I call her names.

JimE| 3.29.10 @ 6:08PM

You mean much like obama's true nature has begun to show? His arrogance, racism and hatred of America, Isreal and so on?

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 6:14PM

Yes, JimE, much like Obama's hatred for this country and white people and Jews and on and on. He would probably shoot you on sight if you're white. Be careful.

Cpm| 3.29.10 @ 5:20PM

It's just amazing how somebody can become'the worst of Washington by a factor of 50' without having spent any time there. That's some freakish logic there.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 5:25PM

I know you want to discredit my comment because you don't like negative viewpoints about Sarah, but it takes no stretch at all to see that that was a statement about the _characteristics_ of Washington.

Dan HIrsch| 3.29.10 @ 10:28AM

Sarah's support of McCain is honorable repayment of an obvious debt. What would be said if she didn't support him? In politics one must keep one's word, one's faith and repay debts, fiscal and political. Like it or not, Mrs. Palin owes John McCain her launch onto the national scene. To not give him some support in his primary re-election campaign would be seen, correctly, as ungrateful and self-serving.

For those who doubt her because of it, I say, wait and see what she does in Arizona if McCain loses the primary. I believe that she'll come out gangbusters for the conservative who gives the Honorable Senator McCain, an indisputable war hero, and equally indisputable squish on true conservative philosophy his well earned retirement.

Gene Car| 3.29.10 @ 7:59PM

Nothing in Sarah Palin' actual record suggests that she 'far right'. She is certainly a principled conservative, but she also has a very fine record of crossing the isle bipartssanship. Her legislative initiatives in Alaska (such as AGIA and ACES) had the almost unanimous support of the Democrats. She is more like Reagan who stuck to principle which being flexible on details and tactics. McCain often went to far, but to say that Palin cannot work across parties does not square with her record.

Alan Brooks| 3.29.10 @ 10:51PM

"Sarah Palin made a mistake endorsing John McCain."

She still does. She spent last week cheerleading his campaign.

Alan Brooks| 3.29.10 @ 10:52PM

google "Palin in Phoenix."

You see, his senatorial campaign actually means something-- unlike 2008.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 7:47AM

We,Tea Party Rebels don't allow The Mainstream Media Agendists to " Define " Us.
See ya on Tax Day .

The March On Washington Is Underway.

martin j smith| 3.29.10 @ 8:06AM

1: Accept it as a given that the MSM will always support the Left
2: Investigate the MSM ties to the Democrat Party--what goodies to they get in return for their support.

Louis Jenkins| 3.29.10 @ 9:17AM

Why is the Pretender n Chief's press secretary such a waste of human flesh? He doesn't need one. He's got the Statist Media in his pocket free of charge.

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 1:28PM

Speaking of Gibbs, This, from CNSnews.com~ The day after the House approved the Health Care bill, a reporter asked him about the lawsuits some states are threatening. [To Gibbs on the question, 'You say there's established law, established precedent,' said the reporter. 'On what? What is it? What is the established precedent?' 'On the regulation of interstate commerce,' said Gibbs. The reporter then asked how the mandate in question was part of interstate commerce. 'Well, that's -- I think, again -- look, I'm not a lawyer, right,' said Gibbs. 'And neither am I,' said the reporter.]
I see it as a GOOD thing that this man is the face of the Obama admin! "Let it be."

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 3:44PM

It's all relative. To the fat right, anything looks to be left-leaning.

fbom| 3.29.10 @ 8:30AM

What is very telling is that Doug's background is more the norm than the lame stream (or buggy whip) media care to acknowledge. My background is Celtic, Scandinivan, African and Native American. So what am I? Why do people who so often quote their efforts during the Civil Rights movement judge me for my support of the Tea Party Movement by the color of my skin?

Louis Jenkins| 3.29.10 @ 9:15AM

Dear fbom:

Interesting combination. Doesn't matter. You're exactly were you're meant to be. Just remember, one day we may be in a ditch together covering each other's backside.

Nick| 3.29.10 @ 9:57AM

fbom,

Good luck filling out your census form!

Son Of Sam| 3.29.10 @ 11:14AM

The Constitution says they can COUNT us,and nothing else. Quite frankly, its none of their damned business what anyone's skin color is,how much money we make, how much schooling we've had, or where our parents came from. I plan on telling them just who lives at my house, and nothing else

stand strong until freedom dawns
Son Of Sam

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 12:45PM

We checked "other" in the box, and wrote in AMERICAN. I figure if they bother to ask us, I'm going to say, "Well, you guys make it so darn confusing. I was looking for the word American and didn't see it. It's the only thing you left off, why is that? So if I'm born here I must be white? I have Canadian French, Dutch, Indian, and who knows what else in me but that wasn't on there either. Oh well. So sue me."

chuck| 3.29.10 @ 11:19PM

My census form had two answer.
Number of people living there? 3
Anyone not counted? NO

All they got, all they're getting.

Canus| 3.29.10 @ 2:18PM

fbom
"So what am I" You sound like an American to me

John Navratil| 3.29.10 @ 9:13AM

For obvious reasons, Palin should be given a pass on the McCain endorsement. If this were part of a pattern, we could be concerned (Trust but verify)! Unfortunately for McCain, I don't think this endorsement will do him much good.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 3:46PM

Her supporters will give her a pass on everything. They are so fueled by hatred (toward Obama, the media etc). When you're guided by that kind of emotion, you will support anything except "the enemy". Sarah's stage managers are acutely aware of this.

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 4:36PM

Hey unfunny Tim, you're wrong. Anger is not hatred. Anger is what you get when you are lied to by your President who promised to have the most transparent admin. ever and yet does the opposite. It's what is produced inside a human being when he or she is betrayed as this President seeks to and is destroying the free market economy sending millions to the unemployment lines. What will it take for you to get angry, Tim? The soup lines?

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 5:17PM

We see this President very differently then. I'm relieved, not angry. You see a dishonest free market "destroyer"; I see one of the greatest, unique, and most interesting leaders this country has had in a while. These are hard times indeed, and they didn't start after he came into office. "Sending millions to the unemployment lines..." The unemployment rate was accelerating when he assumed office. If we were to take a snapshot of the employment trend now, it would appear that the rate has bottomed out and is not decelerating. Did you expect a great President to come in and have unemployment disappear? You can be angry, but it's good to be intellectually honest too (for your own sake).

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 5:18PM

correction: *now* decelerating

Nick| 3.29.10 @ 5:28PM

Could you please refer to yourself as "Tim the Kook", so as to differentiate your inanities from the sane Tim?

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 5:44PM

Kooks are people with views you don't like eh? I'm sorry you're so easily roused to demean someone's character that way bud.

Nick| 3.29.10 @ 6:02PM

Tim the Kook,

No, just the ones who write asinine statements like this:

"[Sarah Palin supporters] are so fueled by hatred [...]"

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 6:06PM

Judging how quickly you're easily roused, I have a hunch I'm not far off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 6:12PM

Unlike the haters on this board I know the truth because KOS pays me to post it.

Nick| 3.29.10 @ 6:36PM

Tim the Kook,

There is not a term in the PDR to describe just how "far off" you are, actually.

How am I "easily roused?"

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 6:47PM

Easily enough to keep hitting the refresh button on your browser to see if some stranger responded to your question about how easily roused you are. Have a nice day.

Nick| 3.29.10 @ 8:12PM

Tim the Kook,

I think you are projecting.

I just enjoy pushing stinking liberal's buttons.

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 5:27PM

Well Tim, I think it is a pity that you see those of us as intellectually dishonest who see Obama the way we do. Because in truth, he is a destroyer. Do you know that he actually said that he thinks that the Constitution of the United States is obsolete? That alone should have sent the red warning flag up to voters, and should have disqualified him from becoming President. How can you be the President of a country whose Constitution you have to promise to uphold?

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 5:37PM

Margie, you're taking what I said to extremes. I didn't say your intellectually dishonest for seeing Obama the way you do. I said blaming him for the unemployment rate is dishonest when a) it was accelerating when he assumed office and b) it is now on the decline.

John Navratil| 3.29.10 @ 5:56PM

Tim,

I'll give you a lot more credence if you can substitute Reagan for Obama and 1982 for now and express the same relief for Reagan. Same unemployment story. Different policy. Can you do it?

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 6:12PM

I'm not sure what point you're aiming at, but Reagan didn't reduce the unemployment rate in his first year. Actually, it went up during his administration from 7.5 to 9.7 before it later declined to 5.3. All I'm saying is, it takes time, and to say Obama is putting "millions" out of work while the rate is actually improving, is not honest.

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 6:37PM

That you, Toddard?

John Navratil| 3.29.10 @ 6:54PM

Tim,

Neither has Obama reduced unemployment in his first year. It is, in fact, two percent higher than he promised it would be if we passed the "stimulus".

Refer to bureau of labor statistics data at http://www.bls.gov/cps/ for support of the following.

Actually, the unemployment rate under Reagan peaked at 10.8 in Nov-Dec 1982 (giving the lie to the statement that this is the worst since the greate depression). The difference between Reagan and Obama was the Reagan did not bring government spending in to solve the problem. And yet the problem was corrected in twenty-four months. We are now the same twenty-four months into the unemployment rise and may or may not have reached the peak. I'll grant you that RECENT data indicates an improvement and I sincerly hope the peak has been reached (I actually think it has). That still puts use into an extended period of high unemployment which exceeds that of Reagan.

Now what is honest about your assertion: 'to say Obama is putting "millions" out of work while the rate is actually improving, is not honest'.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 7:24PM

1982 and 2010. Same times, same economic circumstances, just different Presidents? One size fits all?

Was the US economy as intricately tied into the global economy in 1982 as it is today? Was there as much of a competitive threat from international companies competing with our own workers in 1982? Were plants shutting down at the rate they are in more recent times across the country because China and India could offer a similar product or service for far less? Would a financial blip in Thailand have the same ripple effect world wide in 1982 as it could today?

The larger the ship, the slower it turns. Reagan -- no President -- would have turned this ship around in 24 months.

It's a big ass ship alright. It's complex. To not have it all cleaned up in one year and blame Obama for "destroying the economy" is disingenuous... at least at this early point, especially when signs seem to show that the ship is beginning to turn.

You and Margie may disagree with the approach, but where was the outrage over TARP? Do you know that Palin supported TARP? $700-Billion big ones, my friend. Yes, the bailouts Palin can conveniently wail about, she supported when she was in a position with real political consequences.

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 7:45PM

That you, Liberal Reader?

John Navratil| 3.29.10 @ 8:05PM

Ah, yes! Complex it is! Answer answers with more questions and toss in a few ad hominem attacks and you have "made you point."

No! I could spend the time answering each of you questions and then get more with a few generalities thrown in.

To quote the wise "Tim". Bye:)

John Navratil| 3.29.10 @ 8:06PM

Damn! I wish I could type better when I'm dashing off a response!

Dan Hirsch| 3.30.10 @ 8:57AM

Hi, Tim;

In the 1980's, which I lived through as an employed adult had many, many of the same hallmarks. Yes the US was intricately tied to the global economy, then it was Japan that was the worrisome eastern competitor. Oil was a problem then, (we only had sufficient global reserves to last until the mid '90s). Manufacturing plants were closing as jobs moved off shore. International markets are now more open than they were then so impacts in distant markets had faster, not necessarily greater effects.

But what we had then was a leader in President Reagan who recognized that taking money from those who earned it and aimlessly giving it to those who didn't was the wrong road. That is the road President Obama firmly believes in and is taking us down. It didn't work to end the Depression of the 1930's and it will not work now.

Why don't you learn some history before you lecture others on what you do not know.

breffnian| 3.29.10 @ 10:00PM

We don't blame him for the unemployment rate. We blame him for claiming that unemployment wouldn't exceed 8% once his "stimulus" plan was passed and for making the unprovable claim that 2 million jobs have been "created or saved". In short for lying to us and treating us like idiots. We also blame him for his disastrous economic policies that will lead to European levels of debt and unemployment in this country. And unemployment may have leveled off (hopefully) but it is certainly not on the decline.

Ken (Old Texican)| 3.29.10 @ 9:36AM

Folks,
Over at American Thinker there are LOTS of similar comments concerning Palin/McCain.

My thought is "My goodness, how could an honorable woman do other?"

And if she did, she would be ripped for that as well.

Think about instead, her other speech this weekend in Nevada, energizing the troops against Harry Reid.
Conclusion: This weekend, Sarah stumped for an honorable man whose time has passed. Then she turned right around and stumped AGAINST a dishonorable man......and did very well. I will give her at least a "tie" for the weekend. There are LOTS more ballgames to be played over the next months.
Give'em hell, Sarah!

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 12:46PM

Beautiful!

Chalkdust| 3.29.10 @ 9:38AM

The Tea Party movement may only last a day, or fifty years, or until memories dim. But it will always be remembered as the movement of patriots who picked up the torch of liberty when it was being pissed on by a monster.

We'll need such people agin in the near future. I see in the news today where the FBI is up to it's usual string puppet act. Raiding and pissing on the torch of liberty of a christian "cult". Remind me agin how many men, women an children died the last time a Democrat president used the FBI to raid a "cult".

Anthony| 3.29.10 @ 9:43AM

1. The MSM are not only utterly corrupt, they are delusional. I happened to chance upon Candy Crowley at the Cartoon Network, (aka CNN) on Sat. She was showing a segment with a man whose hands were cupped yelling at one of the Ds, who, last week, made their "in your face" walk through the crowd to the Capitol after the health care vote.
While the corpulent Candy ( I say this only because of the Left's constant invective against Rush) was telling us the man was spitting at a black congressman, the video was showing the exact opposite.The man was clearly trying to make himself heard; if this man was spitting, he only managed to spit into his own hands. The congessman's fake attempt at wiping his cheek was as lame as it could get, and he only did it when the camera was on him. He looked like he was absent-mindedly scratching an itch. These Ds are not only corrupt, they're lousy actors to boot. Crowley should be ashamed for this pathetic piece of "journalism".
2. Gov. Palin's "support" for McCain is out of loyalty. End of story. Besides, imagine what Crowley and the rest of the MSM whores would say if she supported J.D. instead. Can you just hear Matthews braying like the ass that he is? Besides, it's her own "in your face" response to McCain's former chief of staff toad, Steve Schmidt and his juvenile comments about Gov. Palin. So Schmidt, who needs who more?? Give the woman a break, supporting McLame means nothing in terms of her conservative bona fides.
3. No matter how the Ds and the MSM try to spin for the next 6 months, November will be a blood bath for the Ds. Keep the focus!!

Paul from SA| 3.29.10 @ 9:30PM

Candy Crowley is one of about half the staff at CNN who called Tea Party people, 'tea baggers.' For me, she lost all her credibility that day. I will not watch her again.

wodiej| 3.29.10 @ 9:45AM

Be very careful about discrediting Palin who is helping fuel the biggest, most energetic movements promoting the conservative platform begun by our Founding Fathers that I have ever seen in history.

While I agree McCain has been too eager to concede on some conservative ideas, Palin has explained that every person she supports will not necessarily have ALL of the same ideas she has. But if they support limited government and some of the other most important issues, she feels that is worthy for the SAKE OF OUR COUNTRY.

Either you are too lazy to be informed or limited in your thinking. In either case, I doubt anyone would meet your expectations.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 10:23AM

McCain is a Serial Traitor to Conservatism, McCain-Kennedy , McCain -Feingold , McCain-Lieberman , Gang of 14 ,Opposing Bush 2001 & 2003 Tax Cuts.
We can put into the equation that Palin feels it necessary , to payback McCain . Hopefully , she's holding her nose while paying back her debt and McCain gets paid back by Tea Party Voters and jettisoned from The Senate.

Thomas| 3.29.10 @ 10:27AM

The current mood in Conservative America must terrify the liberal political establishment. Conservatives are not the type of people who generally cluster in large public displays. They are too busy working and supporting themselves and the rest of the country. Public demonstrations are usually the venue of the left, not the right. So these tea parties and political rallies, such as Searchlight, has to cause them great concern.

As to Sarah Palin, I will not make any excuses for her. she is a grown woman and can make her own decisions about who she publicly supports. Perhaps it is gratitude for the man who brought her onto the national stage. Perhaps it is loyalty. Perhaps it is self interest, building future support from a man that is influential with moderate Republicans and Democrats. None of us know. we can only speculate. Personally, I would find it very difficult to endorse a man who allowed his campaign to publicly trash me while making no significant attempt to publicly support me. But that's me. In spite of her endorsement of John McCain, she still resonates with a large segment of the conservative population in this country.

LU Dumak| 3.29.10 @ 10:38AM

I blame McCain for putting her in no win situation. He may have been a hero but he is no Officer and a gentlmen. He is just using her to try to prove he is a Conservative.

darcy| 3.29.10 @ 7:48PM

I agree with you, LU Dumak. I am convinced that he chose SP as his vp running mate in a cynical attempt to bring along the right-wing of his party, and had he won the oval, would have continued pressing the progressive agenda of his "friends" across the aisle.

I also believe that he got to S. Brown early, handing over a check and his support in order to set up a quid-pro-quo with Brown, and thus manipulate him, pull his strings. That's JM's modus operandi; he amasses power by creating obligations from others will do his bidding since he "got" them their start.

I will be voting for JD Hayworth.

I would like SP better had she understand her value to the party and the country by declining the vp slot and working in Alaska to hone and sharpen her resume as a conservative. However, in that scenario it's unlikely that she could have emerged as the force to be reckoned with and the champion of the Tea Partiers that she's become. Good thing I'm not a strategist!

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Drew | 3.29.10 @ 11:30AM

The problem the Tea Partiers have is quite simple:
The people organizing them are totally clueless about the "business" of political protest. Which really shouldn't be that surprising, since the business of Fox News is entertainment.

Prior to the Million Man March in Washington in the fall of 1995, organizers toured the country, speaking to african-american groups about the essentially "Conservative" nature of the event: Yes, it was about the evils of racism - but it was also about taking responsibility for black society's own failings: black-on-black crime; absentee fatherhood. Most importantly violence - in any form was stressed as totally contrary to the March's goals.

The MMM's organizers were reading from a winning playbook: Martin Luther King always made sure he was dressed in a suit and tie when he was arrested. And Rosa Parks carefully chosen to be the symbol of the Montgomery bus boycott. Had the Civil Rights protestors showed up on TV as an angry black mob - there'd still be legal segregation in the south.

In contrast, Fox News - which has been the only bona-fide "organization" promoting the Tea Parties - has very different goals: Ratings, which are generated by TV images of outrage and outrageousness.

Of course, there a built-in limits to the "respectable" strategy for protests - at least as far as the Tea Partiers are concerned. Reject the birthers; ban the Hitler signs; forbid even the hint of racism; and tell the gun-nuts to keep their rhetoric under control - and there wouldn't be much of a "movement" left.

Tea Partiers complaining about looking bad on TV would be well advised to take a long hard look in the mirror before heading out the door.

Anthony| 3.29.10 @ 12:08PM

Drew, You reveal much about yourself, and it doesn't bode well for you. Yes, the tea-party folks may indeed not get the "business" of protest. That's because unlike the scripted and manufactured protests of the Left, these folks are FOR REAL. Something you clearly don't comprehend.
Your segue into Fox News makes no sense either, other than the usual cant of the Left that Fox News is "entertainment", perjoritive for "not serious", unlike the Cartoon Networks aka, CNN & MSNBC.
The MMM and winning play book did you say? If memory serves, wasn't the MMM orgainzed by that insane racist, Louis Farrikan, whom I seem to recall, spent a fair amount of time speaking of the mysteries of the number 19, and the mother ship that was orbiting above the Earth? Of course, CNN & MSNBC were too"serious" to dwell on these lofty thoughts of Loopy Louis.
You are however right about Dr. King. Dr. King's movement was genuine and conducted with class. Dr. King was the real deal, afterall, he was a Republican.

Drew| 3.29.10 @ 12:19PM

Quote: . King was the real deal, afterall, he was a Republican.

To claim that MLK was a "Republican" shows how totally misinformed you are. Without getting into the details of the "Dixiecrats" (ie. segregationist Democrats in the south) - King voted for JFK and later Lyndon Johnson. After the 1964 election he publically criticized the Republican candidate, Barry Goldwater. Try doing some fact-checking before repeating easily disproven lies.

You are right abotu one thing: The Tea Partiers are "real" all right: Real nutcases, hatemongers, and gullible fools. The sort cretins who fail to see the pathetic irony of Social Security, Medicare, and Unemployment recipients wailing about the evils of Socialism and Big Government.

Party On!

Anthony| 3.29.10 @ 2:16PM

Sorry to bust your hate filled bubble head Drew, but MLK was indeed a Republican as was his father. Go toke on another number and contact your fellow nutroots over at the Daily Kos.

Drew| 3.29.10 @ 3:50PM

Sorry to burst YOUR lie-filled bubble. But you are talking nonsense. Let me "cut and paste" a section from MLK's autobiography to help clear the shit from your emty cranium:

"The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of good will viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right. The best man at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade."

http://books.google.com/books?.....mp;f=false

Try and spin that any way you want.

But, as far as this discussion is concerned, it really is irrelevant whether MLK was Democrat, Republican, Socialist, or adherent of the Pansexual Peace Party. The fact remains that he was a remarkably succesful civil rights leader, a man who understood the importance of combining peaceful political protest (non-violence ring any bells?) with a "respectable" appearance.

Again - if the Tea Party nut-jobs are complaining about looking like fools on TV, maybe they ought to quit making crap up about the past. And learn from people who are smarter than they are.

Nick| 3.29.10 @ 4:28PM

Drew,

Have you learned how to do basic research yet?

Like who Molech worshipers were? And what they did?

Anthony| 3.29.10 @ 6:47PM

O.K. fool, let me educate you. First, Google MLK Jr. and the Republican Party. The very first hit is an article from Human Events dated 8/16/01 entitled "Why Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican".
Second, read the article.
Third, why haven't you left yet with Farrikan on the Mother Ship to Uranius?

Bernard M. Russelman| 3.29.10 @ 7:12PM

How can it be an "AUTObiography" of Martin Luuther King Jr. when it was WRITTEN BY a SOMEONE ELSE named Clayborne Carson, who on page VIII of the EDITOR'S PREFACE, says this:

"I trust that readers will recognize and appreciate the fact that this narrative can never approach the coherence and comprehensiveness that would have been possible if King had been able to write a complete account of his life".

This is a "faux" autobiography, because it is comprised of EDITED writings, documents, and recordings.

http://books.google.com/books?.....mp;f=false

Nice try, Drew...

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Anthony| 3.29.10 @ 2:26PM

P.S. Better yet, Drew, why don't you and about 10,000 of your Leftist buddies go join Louie on the mother ship and take off for Uranius.

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 12:57PM

HaHaHa! The Million Man Marc~ I think it had what, a handful or so of marchers~ it was a farce! It was a bust.

So now here is Drew the Neo-Com telling us how to run our Tes Party expresses. That is hysterical. Hysterical but so typical, and if I didn't know any better, I'd think this is Liberal Reader, you 2 sound exactly alike. You are so "intellectually superior" to us that you actually believe that you can insult us and then give us your advise without even realizing how crazy that is!
Your posts are filled with lies, just like the Neo-Com Liberal Reader's.
ie., Fox News isn't about entertainment and the Tea Parties aren't about the dress code. And that's just for starters.
We're not interested in your Commie advice, but you are welcome to come to our Tea Parties!

Lara Palin| 3.29.10 @ 2:54PM

The final number, based on a count using They later revised that figure to 837,000 +/- 20%, or from 670,000 to 1,004,000. This revision was made when the Park Service provided original 35mm negatives; the first count was made with scanned printed photographs.

The tea party rally had (allegedly) 10 thousand.
About the same, right?

victor| 3.29.10 @ 3:36PM

Liberal Reader:
"About the same, right?"

The 850k figure came from researchers at some college.

http://www.bu.edu/remotesensin.....index.html

The organizers tried to sue the National Park Service to force them to make the count 1 million. The Park Service had originally estimated the crowd at 400k.

The organizers of the million man march passed the hat, asking everyone to give a buck to help defray the costs.
They collected less than 100k.

Which led me to believe that the even the 400k figure was bogus.

"The tea party rally had (allegedly) 10 thousand."

http://hildabrand2010.com/?p=47

The distance from where this picture was taken is about a mile to the Capital.

Don't look like 10,000 to me.

Ben Gleck| 3.29.10 @ 2:49PM

the business of Fox News is entertainment.

Ahhh. You do get it then. Do not look to them for those pesky 'facts'. they are all about getting viewers, advertisers and revenue while posturing as 'patriots'.
They have found a clever vehicle for making money off of the political conflict in this country.
That's fine.
The problem comes when true believers take what they spew as facts.

Nick| 3.29.10 @ 12:11PM

Hey everybody, it's Drew, the Molech worshiping progressive troll!

Ken (Old Texican)| 3.29.10 @ 12:15PM

Drew,
Screw you, copy/paster.

Shall I link you to your own communist, (pardon the shorthand), demonstrations over the last ten years?
HaH!
How many do you want? Right off youtube?
Your time is limited, so dance in the sun while you may.
OH!
Please pray very earnestly for a conservative landslide on November 2nd.

victor| 3.29.10 @ 1:33PM

Drew:
"Tea Partiers complaining about looking bad on TV would be well advised to take a long hard look in the mirror before heading out the door."

Yes maybe they should go back and read one of Liberal Reader's ancestor's old newspaper columns from "Ye Olde Village Voice":
A Liberal's Eye for the Colonial Guy and see what he proposed for the Midnight Ride:

http://www.risingstarpromo.com/National Artist/tn_PaulRevereRaiders.jpg

victor| 3.29.10 @ 1:34PM

oops try it again:

http://www.risingstarpromo.com/National Artist/tn_PaulRevereRaiders.jpg

Obie Wan| 3.29.10 @ 11:37AM

Mass conservative radio host Michael Graham has been playing a CNN reporters coverage of the "Showdown in Searchlight" rally. She reprted quote, " I'm here in Searchlight covering the rally, there's hundreds or at least DOZENS of people who have come to participate". Ha,ha, dozens of people, ya gotta love Democrap math. It's the same math by the way the CBO used to square the cost of Obamacare a couple weeks back !!!

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 11:43AM

Emperor: Round up some Christians! Let us give the mob a spectacle.

David| 3.29.10 @ 11:54AM

I don't have a problem with Palin's endorsement of McCain. Even though we can all remember how McCain's staff trashed her for months after the election with nary a peep of support for her coming from McCain.

What I do have a problem with is her ENTHUSIASTIC, RECENT NON-STOP campaigning with him. McCain knows he couldn't draw a crowd without her.

She should limit her time with McCain and spend the vast majority of it campaigning for the many conservative primary candidates around the country.

If McCain does win the primary, you can bet there will be good number of conservatives who will blame her for it - me included. Again, support him Mrs. Palin, but please do not spend the next six months in campaign appearances with him. Your time will be better spent elsewhere.

Siegfried X| 3.29.10 @ 12:47PM

You are right. No real conservative would passionately support a RINO like McCain, and "pretend" to support the same left-wing things which the RINO does.

GregA| 3.29.10 @ 12:08PM

If there were to be a rally for Harry Reid, would the lame-stream-media get a close-up of the ten participants to make it look like a large crowd? Would they "Photoshop" the pictures of this rally and put "Re-elect Reid" on the signs?

Having seen the aerial images of the traffic jam leading to this rally, I was reminded of the roads leading to Yasgur's farm. However, I bet the occupants of the vehicles in Nevada smelled much better.

Don McCain| 3.29.10 @ 3:02PM

Having seen the aerial images of the traffic jam leading to this rally I was reminded of the roads leading to Yasgur's farm. However, I bet the occupants of the vehicles in Nevada smelled much better.
That is an assumption based on your prejudices.
Searchlight has a population under 1,000. How hard is it to have a traffic jam in a small town. Woodstock had at least 500 thousand attendees. Not even a close comparison.
Your verbal 'photoshop' failed.

GregA| 3.29.10 @ 4:28PM

That is because it wasn't a verbal "photoshop"; it was an olfactory one. I'm not prejudiced, I just prefer the smell of Ben-Gay and Militec Firearm lube over patchouli oil and bong water. Smoke a bone and relax, Don.

Nick| 3.29.10 @ 12:10PM

It has been widely reported that liberal members of the democrat party have viciously attacked members of the Tea Party movement and used language that is inappropriate.

This weekend, it was reported, Rep. John Conyers (D-MI), a well known racist, spat on a Tea Party activist. His racist colleague, Rep. John Lewis (D-GA), was heard calling Tea Partiers the "H" word (rhymes with "tonky".) Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY, and well-known racist) was seen picking the pockets of the activists.

Lickspittles in the MSM, like Chris Matthews, were quick to point out that the liberals were provoked by the Tea Partiers by their use of words like "target" and "reload." Matthews had to be given IV's, as he dehydrated himself with his saliva-scattering tirade.

-NNS wire service

These racist attacks, by liberal democrats, must stop, before someone really gets hurt!

Nick| 3.29.10 @ 12:26PM

Check out this link:

http://www.binscorner.com/page.....sts-i.html

Where were you hypocritical liberals for 8 years?

Hat-tip to "Truth to Power"

Truth to Power| 3.29.10 @ 12:56PM

Try this link if the above doesn't work.

http://www.binscorner.com/page.....sts-i.html

This is probably what Drew thinks is good political protest.

Nick| 3.29.10 @ 1:21PM

Truth to Power,
Thanks!

Oldefarte| 3.29.10 @ 12:20PM

As many here have indicated, Palin's endorsement was out of loyalty [and rightfully so] to a military hero whose [unfortionately] TIME HAS PASSED. He, Graham, Liebermann, etc are honorable people, but what's needed now is those who will DRAW A LINE IN THE DIRT/SAND [Jim Bowie style at the Alamo]. We need patriot-fighters, like Rubio of Florida and Brown of Massachusetts. Compromisers, facilitators, pragmatists are what/who have gotten this country into the disasterous shape that it is now in. It is nothing short of WAR, and we need politicians who will bring a bazooka to a knife fight, in dealing with these liberals. As to the MSM's description of 'HATE-FILLED' activity, I discount that, but offer my own personal feelings of REGURITATION-FILLED as a discription!!!!

Hollis| 3.29.10 @ 4:12PM

Your examples of conservatives -- Rubio and Brown -- don't quite work. Rubio, Yes. Brown, No. Brown also endorsed McCain, but many who criticized Palin for doing so are strangely silent about Brown. Brown crossed party lines in one of his first votes in the Senate -- some "jobs stimulus" bill (after the 787 billion stimulus was ineffective). Even McCain did not join the Dems to vote for that one. Just brought this up for perspective.

Mattled| 3.29.10 @ 12:25PM

Ken and Grzm--well said. I don't support McCain, but she is where she is because of him. There's probably a lot more give-take in politics than business (except Obama and Libs---they just take).

As for the media; we need to go on offense. I suggested a billboard campaign with the Anchors faces on one or two with the word LIAR stamped across their faces (Tell The Truth). Let them go on the defensive.

Next Tea Party Rally----make sure we have signs with the names/quotes of news anchors and writers and say: " Hey Frank Rich----we have no problem with Obama being black. It's his policies we oppose. Obviously you have a problem with the color of his skin because you're so obsessed with it".

Lastly; target the Local Network Affiliate. Call the General Manager and complain about the news coverage and when they say they can't control what the networks do, then tell them; Look, I don't watch anything NBC (or whatever Network)----that means I NEVER watch YOUR local affiliate. Capeche?

NBC isn't a station----YOU are the station. Until you start providing balance or start speaking up for your community, we're gone!!

PS Lastly; Cancel your newspaper (if its liberal) Newsweak, Time, O, Esquire, Cosmo etc.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 12:28PM

It has been widely reported that Rep.John Conyers (D-Mi.) wants his wife excused from prison due to the pre-existing condition that she has larceny in her blood.

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 1:15PM

They will try to say it's an inherited disease and she'll be let off.

Bruce | 3.29.10 @ 4:03PM

Slight correction ... it's a "pre-existing condition."

Siegfried X| 3.29.10 @ 12:43PM

Anyone who supports McCain is a RINO and won't get my vote. That's been a long held rule of mine and there is absolutely no reason to change it for Sarah Palin.

A real conservative might reluctantly VOTE for a RINO, but there is no way they were even enthusiastically support the RINO or pretend to support the issues that the RINO does.

Bruce | 3.29.10 @ 4:05PM

So you're saying that if by chance Sarah was the GOP nominee in 2012 that you would not vote for her ... is that what you're saying? Well thanks for giving Zero a second term, moron.

John Navratil| 3.29.10 @ 4:06PM

So, for whom will you vote in a Palin - Obama contest?

victor| 3.29.10 @ 5:13PM

Siegfried will goose step to the voting booth and pull the lever for Ron Paul.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 12:44PM

Rep.Charlie Rangel (D-NY. ) viciously exposed for ethics violations by the racist pigs of The New York Times And The Washington Post.

Who Will Stop These Evil Red Necks Of The Liberal Rag Media ?

Tim | 3.29.10 @ 12:50PM

Chris Matthews set to have his lawyers bring suit against Obama for giving him Tingly Legs Syndrome .

Mick Lee| 3.29.10 @ 1:01PM

You have to give the media some credit. Put them in a crowd of thousands of Tea Party advocates (or in a Pro-Life march on Washington for that matter) and they will find the one neurotic out of thousands who thinks slavery should be reinstated and black helicopters regularly watch him and what happens at his home. Hey, you try it. It’s not that easy.

Nick| 3.29.10 @ 1:19PM

Mr. Lee,

Don't believe the MSM hype!

Nobody shouted racial slurs at the democrats. Or spit on them. It is a LIE.

The only nuts showing up at these protests are the Lyndon LaRouche followers. They are the ones with the posters with President Dither sporting a Hitler mustache.

LaRouche is a big time LIBERAL/PROGRESSIVE, by the way.

Don't repeat the dino-media lies!

Northern Rebel| 3.29.10 @ 1:02PM

What people have to understand about the alphabet media is, they've sceded objectivity in the name of what ratings they can salvage.

They realize that the only people watching ABCBSNBC, are barely functioning, apoliticals, and socialist liberals, so they cater to those groups.

In effect they have all become MSNBC, and their reporting is done by watered down versions of Olberfool.

Talk radio, and the internet have done much to free us from the clutches of these progressive socialisists.

The first time I heard Rush Limbaugh, my first thought was, "Holy shit, this guy is saying everything I never said out loud, but knew to be right!"

I didn't even know I was a constitutional conservative until Rush told me. I thought I was a normal American, and everyone thought the way I did.

I was naive enough not to realize there were "Americans" who where out to destroy what made this country great, and turn it into what our forefathers left behind.

I'm a quick learner, though! ;o)

Snerdly| 3.29.10 @ 3:06PM

The first time I heard Rush Limbaugh, my first thought was, "Holy shit, this guy is saying everything I never said out loud, but knew to be right!"
My first time listening, I thought "holy shit, this guy sounds like he's on drugs and craves young Dominican boys."

Frank's Barney| 3.29.10 @ 3:43PM

Snerdly:
"My first time listening, I thought "holy shit, this guy sounds like he's on drugs and craves young Dominican boys.""

Might be an accurate appraisal of Chris Mathews or at least Barney Frank.

Anthony| 3.29.10 @ 3:56PM

Gee Snerdly, listening to Rush for some 16 years now, the only thing Dominican he's ever talked about were cigars. You know, Bill Clinton's favorite sex toys, perhaps yours as well.

Anthony| 3.29.10 @ 3:36PM

NR, right on, as usual. I am of the opinion that the "alphabet media" has "sceded objectivity" not for the paltry ratings they so deserve, but because they are fanatics, not to news, but to propaganda.
The MSM long ago sold their collective souls to aid and abet the Leftist agenda.

NavyBrat | 3.29.10 @ 1:04PM

The reaction of the Pravda media can best be summed up by one of my favorite historical figures:

"When you have no basis for argument, abuse the plantiff."...Cicero

These charlatans of the fourth estate will do us no favors, now, or in the future. It will be up to those of us who love this country THE WAY IT WAS FOUNDED to shape our narratives by ourselves. While the powers that be in the media will still try to obfuscate & spin the true meaning behind our righteous indignation, they won't be able to do so ad nauseum. Eventually, they'll realize that they were on the wrong side of history.

Copyleft| 3.29.10 @ 1:15PM

What is it that you conservatives like about this woman? She didn't attend an Ivy League school and her main accomplishment has been to be governor of a backwater state. She has never known the rough and tumble world of Chicago community organizing and she has never even served a successful half-term in the US Senate!
What I would like to know is why you people think she is such a force to be reckoned with!

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 1:18PM

Oh My Goodness. She didn't attend an Ivy League school. That settles it.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 3:49PM

Nope. She didn't. And it took her 6 years and 5 colleges to get a BA in journalism. Why?

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 4:07PM

You must be the unfunny Tim.
Don't worry, Tim. There will always be enough gloom and doom Democrats for you to vote for.
Book smart but brain dead.

John Navratil| 3.29.10 @ 4:10PM

She worked her way through school. Simple! Took me nine years and nine semesters. I still made the deans list. Did your Daddy put you through school?

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 5:21PM

If that's the case, great! Let's put this issue to rest and provide some support for your conclusion? (note: I'm merely asking a question, which apparently angers you... how dare I question Sarah Palin?)

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 5:45PM

Hello?

John Navratil| 3.29.10 @ 6:03PM

Tim,

Where did you divine any anger in my response? I answered your question based on Palin's own statement. She has been asked this question and has answered it. She has answered the question in her book. I inserted my own experience merely to suggest that it is not unique. Did it not occur to you that not everyone goes through university one someone else's nickel?

Is that enough support?

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 6:20PM

Her book? That's your source? Are you serious? Well, you've said enough for me!

Nick| 3.29.10 @ 6:47PM

Tim the Kook,

This is why you are a disingenuous kook.

Mr. Navratil gave you the basis for his conclusion to your question, and you give no rebutal, no contradictory facts. Just insipid questions.

You do not want an honest debate.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 6:49PM

Yes, and he told me ALL I needed to know. Take care bud.

John Navratil| 3.29.10 @ 6:59PM

Tim,

You don't need much do you? Why don't you tell us why it took Palin so long and how YOU know? Nevermind! You have it all!

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 7:06PM

No, I don't know, and I don't have it all, that's why I asked. And when I asked, the response was basically, "Palin said so." And her book of all places. Do you know how many verifiable untruths are in that book? Do you really want to go there?

John Navratil| 3.29.10 @ 7:58PM

Really? Untruthes? Verifiable? Please tell me more! Don't keep us in the dark! Be assertive! You can do it! PLEASE GO THERE!

Nick| 3.29.10 @ 7:58PM

Tim the Kook,

If you had any "untruths", you would have named some, not asked. But, you didn't.

Like all lying liberals, you are talking out of your backside, making things up.

JT| 3.30.10 @ 1:21AM

Does that make Sarah a liberal by your definition?

http://www.juneauempire.com/st.....1017.shtml

http://firstthings.com/blogs/e.....ing-rogue/

JT| 3.30.10 @ 1:23AM

http://alaskadispatch.com/news.....?showall=1

http://andrewsullivan.theatlan.....g-ctd.html

Need more?

JimE| 3.29.10 @ 6:16PM

Yes , but at least we know her GPA unlike your overlord obama's.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 6:22PM

That's great Jimmy!

NavyBrat | 3.29.10 @ 1:29PM

You are truly a master of satire, I'll give you that much.

Trig| 3.29.10 @ 3:08PM

and her main accomplishment has been to be governor of a backwater state.

Let me correct that; "and her main accomplishment has been to quit her job as governor of a backwater state."

Louis Jenkins| 3.29.10 @ 3:10PM

Dear Copyleftist:

Never been there but I'd saying living in Alaska is an education unto itself. If she is such a non-force why is the statist media paying so much attention to her? Look at the map! Though sparsely settled, it is a mighty big state. As far as rough and tumble, I'd say facing down a moose and shooting it is a lot more challenging than community organizing. A wild creature of that size is more honest than the thugs of Windy City. Miss and it will kill you. You can buy off the politicians and thugs.

axbucxdu| 3.29.10 @ 10:13PM

Will wonders ever cease? A liberal with sense of humor. Sehr sehr gut...

Michael Adams| 3.29.10 @ 1:34PM

However, whatever you do, if you see a reporter hassled at any Conservative event, put yourself between the reporter and the antagonist. Is the a--hole a plant from MoveOn or worse? Doesn't matter. Protect the press. They may not return the kindness, but you may be damned sure that they will report the verbal assault, in vivid detail. The radicals of yore had 'marshals' to keep things orderly. We have no leaders. We need no marshals, because we are all leaders and all, every one of us, marshals.

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 1:43PM

Interesting point about how the Lame Stream Media always asks the question, "Who do you consider to be the leader of your movement?"
This is because they cannot fathom the idea that we the people are the leader. They, being Neo-Coms and all, look to an individual person and worship them and look to them for direction.
In our case, WE are the leaders. "that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." Abraham Lincoln.

I think that's how we ought to answer when asked who our leader is. It's us.

WG Bush| 3.29.10 @ 3:09PM

You forgot Dick Armey.

Helen Donnelly| 3.29.10 @ 3:14PM

Well said, Margie!!

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 3:52PM

Why thank you, Helen. :^)

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 3:51PM

Disagree. It's leaders are many, incl: Roger Ailes, Sarah Palin, Rush, etc

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 4:09PM

Yes all of them, including all of us.

John Navratil| 3.29.10 @ 4:11PM

Perhaps it is difficult from some to contemplate a community without an organizer.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 5:52PM

Perhaps it's difficult to hear rhetoric that starts on Glen Beck, gets repeated at protests, and contemplate a tea party without Glen Beck et al as its leaders.

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 6:03PM

You mean rhetoric like "God bless America" and "we need to take our country back from the Left?" That kind of rhetoric?

There's only ONE thing I wish I could change about Glen Beck. And that is that he doesn't tell people to vote Republican. :^) Which I think we are going to have to do, no question, in order to do that.
Hey Tim,
Maybe you should go to a tea party near you and mingle a bit. It could only help.

John Navratil| 3.29.10 @ 6:11PM

If I listened to Glenn Beck, or Rush, or Hannity, or O'Reilly, I could comment. But as I do not, I cannot.

Actually, that is a bit of a fib, I used to watch to Hannity when Colmes was on. Not that I agreed at all with Holmes, I just liked the to-and-fro.

breffnian| 3.29.10 @ 10:15PM

Great point and really insightful.
MSM must really be from another planet if they keep asking "take me to your leader".

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 2:08PM

We are in a Media War,where the failing Mainstream Media's Liberal Agendists are desperately attempting to demonize , minimize , discredit and neutralize those ,who oppose their agenda.
We are in escalating rebellion , marching toward Washington , rallying on Tax Day April 15th and Remembering On November 2nd.

Freedom was never free .

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 3:55PM

The existence of those who will not accept your agenda is not evidence of an agenda of their own. The so-called tea party is generally just opposed to views other than their own.

Keith Mussey| 3.29.10 @ 2:10PM

I've been to several Tea Party events and look forward to attending more in the future. These are good people that for most, never thought they would have to protest against their own government. Many republicans, many independents and 'old-view' democrats. Fun group.
I would imagine that there are several flavors of Tea Parties depending on the region of the country. Here in Northeast Ohio its a mix of urban, suburban and rural, and not much into the gun thingy, but there are a few. In rural Texas or Nevada, maybe its different. I suppose what we ALL agree upon most is that government is getting too big, spends too much money recklessly, and is dangerously verging on bankruptcy. We don't like to protest, and most of us never had - until now. We feel that our country is 'slipping away' and no one but ourselves, standing together will be able to face-down this new threat (God grant us strength during perilous times!).
My next event is in DC Washington April 15 for the Tax Day protest. It's a night evening event (?) so before hand we'll visit the Baker & Russel buildings to visit our congressmen, walk the Mall and maybe the Smithsonian. Afterwards, we'll head to Gettysburg to hike the battlefield before we head home to Cleveland. Maybe we'll meet? I'll be the one with the big yellow flag with a coiled snake on it.

David | 3.29.10 @ 2:17PM

Hey CopyLeft, if Bam Bam was such a great community organizer on the Southside of Chicago, why is the place still a sh_thole to this day. May the MSM should have bothered to show us the results of all his shakedowns of corporations and the government. The place is a dump.

I heard Breitbart on the radio about the supposed abuse by the Tea Partiers. He made the point that with all the cameras around, cell phone cameras, etc., he would contribute $10,000 to the Negroe College Fund if anyone could produce ONE photo or audio recording of any of the alleged abuse. Nick is correct, they are liars. That is why the black congressmen are now saying all they want to do it forget about it. Do you believe if it really happened that would be their FEELINGS. They would want those folks prosecuted to the full extent of the law under hate crimes statutes.

Mattled, you'll appreciate this. I saw a road sign (one of the white ones with wheels that you stick plastic letters on). It read: "We are not racists. We don't like his white half either." I thought it was hilarious.

Margie, excellent point.

debg| 3.29.10 @ 2:28PM

Sorry Bill Hussein - you do Hayworth no good will by attacking Palin. Remember, JD wants her support should he win.

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Everly Waverly| 3.29.10 @ 3:00PM

"Who do you consider to be the leader of your movement?"

ASK ME, my reply would be ME!!!

Whereas the leader of any movement associated with Obama would be leading the bowel movement, albeit a movement with less satisfaction (accomplishment) and made-up of hot air...

Mike| 3.29.10 @ 3:27PM

Palin is more than the leader of the Tea Party movement. She is America's next President like it or not.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 3:37PM

She wouldn't make it through the rigors of a campaign. She'd self-destruct very early whether it be because of her lack of knowledge, maturity, or what have you.

Anthony| 3.29.10 @ 3:44PM

Hey Mikey!! WE LIKE IT, WE LIKE IT.

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caitlin| 3.29.10 @ 3:56PM

I have 2 kinds of Tea Party friends. Some are disgruntled democrats and some disgruntled republicans. There are still disagreements among them though they both belong and attend the protests,etc.
Then there are my liberal family members. What's so interesting to me is that the sources they (the Tea Partiers, too) quote and recommend to me are b0th backed by research, historic evedence,etc. as to why their's is the best way to solve the country's problems.
And all the media is biased. It seems like liberals link themselves to the websites, publications,television shows,etc. that tell them what they already want to hear and vice versa.
And from reading the comments on websites, no one is allowed to disagree without fear of being called some kind of over the top socialist or nazi, depending on the side doing the name calling. The USA will never agree; never has. What happened to agreeing to disagree in a respectable manner?
Protest all you want, but if I only read liberal information, I'd think all Tea Partiers were gun toting mouth breathers, which I know is wrong! And likewise, conservative news sources never give the democrats a break. Wouldn't we do better as a nation to say,"Yeah, you think this way and I that. I'll guess we'll see what happens." And then no one gets accused of hating America, no one gets accused of sedition. Things that seem to be tearing our country apart more than anything.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 4:02PM

No doubt. The whole psychology of "left vs right" in this country is really quite a display of adult immaturity.

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 4:20PM

caitlin,
We vote our differences. In the meantime we speak our minds. That's what's so great about this country. The Left just doesn't like it when we do so. Because when we do, we make sense and people will come over to our side. This is happening big time right now and the Left has to do what they have to do~ label us racist.
They have no ground to stand on. Their policies are Socialist and are horrible for the country. There is nothing good about them.
The argument that "both sides do it" is 99.93/4% false.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 5:32PM

If someone watching television sees a tea party protest and observes mostly (mostly, not all... mostly) middle age to older white folks, is it a) an unrealistic portrayal due to poor selection of the video camera operator or b) the reality of the tea party's composition or c) something else? ... Given such impressions, is it wild and crazy to ask why there are so few minorities at tea party rallies? If there are plenty of minorities, can you shut up these idiots who are calling them racists by providing some photographs from rallies (they are aplenty online)?

Let's shut up these fools who call them racists once and for all by showing them that people of all stripes are in abundance at these rallies. If you can provide some photos, I will work overtime by getting them out there everywhere I can for you.

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 5:56PM

Uh yeah Tim. Let's really try not to make it about race, right?

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 6:25PM

Uh, Margie, you might want to read the post I was responding to:

"This is happening big time right now and the Left has to do what they have to do~ label us racist." -- Margie | 3.29.10 @ 4:20PM

PaulM| 3.29.10 @ 6:30PM

Margie, you did bring it up, not Tim.

John Navratil| 3.29.10 @ 6:35PM

PaulM,

Tim wrote: "Let's shut up these fools who call them racists once and for all by showing them that people of all stripes are in abundance at these rallies."

Perhaps Margie and I weren't sufficiently erudite to appreciate Tim's sincere offer of help. Indeed, I (falsely, perhaps) read this as a suggestion that it was racism which was the cause of such limited attendance.

Tim -- Do Margie and I owe you an apology for misunderstanding your message?

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 6:45PM

I can't speak for you, but I can say Margie missed the point. Anyway, no one knows anyone any apology here. Getting blasted when expressing an opposing viewpoint happens on every blog -- it's as predictable as clockwork actually. Have a great day.

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 6:49PM

Race baiting Tim does an exit, stage Left.
Good riddance.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 6:53PM

Bye :)

John Navratil| 3.29.10 @ 6:31PM

Are you friggin' blind.? You don't have to work to get these images out. Google "black tea party" or something similar and you will find many sources. God forbid you should ever listen to Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, Ward Connerly or other conservative blacks to know that, despite the fact that this block which makes up 20% of the populace and votes with the Dems over 90% of the time is present at the tea parties.

But let's suppose that EVERYONE at a tea party is white (whatever that means). Does that mean it is racist? To flip your argument on its head, show ME where minorities are excluded from the tea parties. NOW we are talking racism.

You are so good at knowing what people are thinking and what motivates them! What am I thinking? What motivates me? You have more to go on with me than the anonymous tea-partier you are so quick to condemn.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 7:09PM

Yes, searches for black people will give you images of black people. Very good.

John Navratil| 3.29.10 @ 8:01PM

An trying to prove a negative is difficult. You say black people don't go. Pictures say they do.

Now! Tell us how a tea party is racist! PLEASE! Enquiring minds want to know! No more questions! Just a few verifiable assertions will be sufficient.

From the evidence I see, you are incapable of doing this. Am I right? Prove me wrond!

breffnian| 3.29.10 @ 10:27PM

Only 12% of the people are black and they are concentrated in a few areas. 95% of blacks support Obama. That's why there are few black faces in the Tea Party although there are a few. Blacks choose not to participate for reasons other than racism.

Mattled| 3.29.10 @ 4:28PM

Hick.
Redneck.
Out of wedlock birth fiasco during a presidential campaign.
Failed VP candidate.
State school edumacated.
Hair obsessed.
Drama queen.
High maintenance boob.

Sarah Palin?

Nope---John Edwards!

He's yours leftists!! For life--you own damaged goods so don't be **SHMOS!!

**Selective Hypocritical Moral Outrage S**theads.

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 4:47PM

Or as Laura Ingraham used to call him, the silky pony.

chuck| 3.29.10 @ 11:39PM

Rush called him the " Brecht girl".

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 5:51PM

Gee, Other Dude Tim ,
“Like every other institution, the Washington and political press corps operate with a good number of biases and predilections. They include, but are not limited to, a near-universal shared sense that liberal political positions on social issues like gun control, homosexuality, abortion, and religion are the default, while more conservative positions are ‘conservative positions.’...”
“The press, by and large, does not accept President Bush’s justifications for the Iraq war....It does not accept the proposition that the Bush tax cuts helped the economy....It remains fixated on the unemployment rate....The worldview of the dominant media can be seen in every frame of video and every print word choice that is currently being produced about the presidential race.”
— From the February 10, 2004 edition of ABCNews.com’s “The Note,” a daily political memo assembled by ABC News political director Mark Halperin and his staff.

You're In Denial , Boy !

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 6:00PM

Tim-1,

When did I say there doesn't exist any liberal bias in the media? The only thing I would refute here is the statement that "[t]he press, by and large, does not accept President Bush’s justifications for the Iraq war." That is not an example of liberal bias, if you intended it to be. One of his fundamental justifications for the Iraq war was proven false! That's not a bias. And questioning a President's motivations isn't liberal or conservative.

UpChuck.Liberals| 3.29.10 @ 5:54PM

Might I add Psalm 2010

PSALM 2010

Obama is the shepherd I did not want.
He leadeth me beside the still factories.
He restoreth my faith in the Republican party.
He guideth me in the path of unemployment for his party's sake.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the bread line,
I shall fear no hunger, for his bailouts are with me.
He has anointed my income with taxes,
My expenses runneth over.
Surely, poverty and hard living will follow me all the days of my life,
And I will live in a mortgaged home forever.
I am glad I am American,
I am glad that I am free.
But I wish I was a dog .....
And Obama was a tree.

amen

JJ| 3.29.10 @ 5:55PM

ABC News reports the Tea Party People are clinging to their guns and religion and have barricaded themselves inside a giant fort in Waco, Texas. They have food and supplies for 8 months at least. Cannons have appeared along the ramparts. The fort is said to hold 15-thousand armed Tea Partiers. At this very moment, Diane Sawyer is knocking on the giant front gate of the castle, after getting safe conduct past the moat, asking to speak to the leader of the Tea Party Army of Texas. CBS News reports the Tea Party People are also forming an army outside of Tulsa, 45-thousand strong, with two regiments of cavalry in preparation for a march on St. Louis.
Stand by for further details on the Tea Party Army on this CBS station. We now return you to Entertainment Tonight, already in progress.

Ken (Old Texican)| 3.29.10 @ 7:13PM

JJ, heh,
You will never see that story or any like it in print or on TV.
If the communists do a Putch, we won't be "forted up."

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 6:00PM

Since 96 Percent of Black Americans pulled the Obama lever ,why would ya expect them to be showing up in any numbers at at Our Rebel Tea Party Rallies.
It's A Free Country ,Sport.

Nobody's Stoppin' Them , But Themselves.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 6:02PM

Sure, but if Obama is so horrible relative to what he campaigned on, wouldn't they wake up and join the Rebels? Are blacks the only minorities in the USA? No. So where are the others at the rallies?

breffian| 3.29.10 @ 10:34PM

I wish they would wake up like the rest of the country has woken up. But Obama is their hero. 96% support among black Americans says it all. 15% the population is Latino. Are they as politically engaged as whites? Maybe they support Obama or just don't like the tea parties. Are you sure you can look at the photos and tell there are no Latinos present? Why are you so keen to slander the tea parties?

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 6:07PM

Other Dude Tim, your invited to come to Our Tax Day ,April 15th Tea Party Rallies and run your mouth Anti-Tea Party Mouth.

It's supposed to be A Free Country, and nobody's stoppin' ya, Bub.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 6:21PM

As a matter of polling Other Dude Tim,21 Percent of Tea Party Rebels are Non-White,55 Percent are Women .

You seem to be a Race Hustlin' , Race Baitin' Agenda Boy .

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 6:27PM

Can you show me ONE photo where one might draw such an impression? One?

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 6:44PM

Do your own homework Race Baitin' Other Tim Dude.
Google " Pictures Black Tea Party " .
Who Are Those Tea Party Americans ? Hmmmmm Boy ?

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 7:03PM

Um, Tim, if you do a search explicitly for black people, yes, black people will come up.

Come on Tim, one photo with a crowd that isn't just like this:
http://factreal.files.wordpres.....y-1051.jpg

Just one. You can do it bud.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 7:52PM

Hello?

victor| 3.29.10 @ 7:58PM

Hey Tim, what's your point?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com.....0f72_o.jpg
http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/76986/

We don't look at people as members of a GROUP!
We see them as AMERICANS!

It's apparent you don't. If 95% of black people voted for Obama, whose kidding whom?
I didn't vote for Sarah Palin because she is white, but because she espouses American Values.
Something you need to get acquainted with.
Life, Liberty and The pursuit of Happiness.

Or as someone else concisely put it:
Truth, Justice and the American Way!

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 6:48PM

“There is a liberal bias. It’s demonstrable. You look at some statistics. About 85 percent of the reporters who cover the White House vote Democratic, they have for a long time. There is a, particularly at the networks, at the lower levels, among the editors and the so-called infrastructure, there is a liberal bias....[Then-ABC White House reporter] Brit Hume’s bosses are liberal and they’re always quietly denouncing him as being a right-wing nut.”
— Newsweek’s Evan Thomas on Inside Washington

C.K. Amos| 3.29.10 @ 7:06PM

From the WSJ, today, at http://online.wsj.com/article/.....DLESecond:

RUDE FOR REID

"Sarah Palin at Saturday's Tea Party Express: 'There's something not quite right when Fidel Castro comes out and says he likes ObamaCare when we don't.'"

"Saturday's Tea Party Express event in the hometown of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid was downplayed by much of the media -- perhaps because the only incidents of violent behavior among the large crowd seemed to come from angry supporters of Mr. Reid. Following a week in which charges and countercharges about which side in the health care debate has engaged in more objectionable rhetoric, the media's treatment of the Tea Party event in Searchlight, Nev. was curious.

"CNN's Fredricka Whitfield certainly didn't think the crowd was worth much of a mention, estimating that only 'hundreds of people, at least dozens of people,' turned out for it. By contrast, Politco.com concluded that the event drew 'as estimated 20,000 Tea Partiers' to a windswept desert lot.

"Andrew Breitbart, the conservative Internet entrepreneur who was one of several speakers at the rally, says the crowd was large enough that it raised the ire of local Reid supporters. He noticed one man holding a sign directing Tea Parties in the wrong direction. When Mr. Breitbart approached to chat with the Reid supporters, he saw several throwing eggs at the Tea Party Express buses. The protesters, he says, quickly surrounded him, including one who declared: 'I'm going to have to go to jail today if this guy [Breitbart] doesn't leave.' . . . . "

GregA| 3.29.10 @ 7:18PM

Funny how the same couple of neo-commie trolls who hide under the bridge around here use a plethora of different names to give the appearance of numerical advantage. Gen. John B. Magruder would be proud.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 7:39PM

Other Dude Tim ,there's the pictures of Black Tea Party Rebels and you wanna keep movin' the goal posts .
There's the statistics of Non-White Tea Party Rebels and you can't rebut them .

There's Evan Thomas citing the statistics regarding the Liberal Media and you can't refute them.
Get over your Race Hustlin' Race Baitin' Hang Up .
You can do it Agenda Boy .

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 7:46PM

Tim,

I am not making any statements about liberal media. So I don't know why you're pulling that up.

Without doing my own research, one cannot obviously rebut those stats, but I can raise serious doubts about them.

Go to: http://images.google.com ... Search "tea party rally"

Look like 21% non-whites? Nope.

And, Tim, I'm not moving the goal posts. It's a simple fact -- you search for black people, you will find black people. (The ones I saw were not among a crowd. They were photos of a single or only a few people... show me what the rest of the crowd looks like.)

Judging by your slow recession into childish behavior, I can tell you don't like being challenged. It's Ok bud. It won't hurt.

victor| 3.29.10 @ 8:01PM

Hey Hyphenated-Tim,

Here's a typical tolerant poster on a typical liberal blog:
"In reference to Rubio, he may not be “white” to the teabaggers, but at least he isn’t rumored to be gay like Charlie Christ. The only thing worse then not being white to these bigots is being gay.

And, no there would not be teabaggers if the POTUS was white."

And your point is still what?

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 8:03PM

Other Tim said Tea Partiers are 21% minorities, wherever that stat came from ... That's 1 in 5. Here are about 50:

http://factreal.files.wordpres.....y-1051.jpg

Can you find me 10 minorities in this photo? 5? 4? 3? 2? 1?

How about here?
http://www.cga.ct.gov/cop/images/gallery/Gallery 5/9 11 09 Tea Party Rally 007.JPG

Hmmm... this is getting tough!

C.K. Amos| 3.29.10 @ 8:14PM

Facts, schmacts--whatever you and I call them, they're irrelevant to most Democrats--at least, the ones in the White House, Obama administration and Congress--and liberals and leftists--and that includes the state-controlled media.

The fact that that hyphenated fellow and others are arguing about it is but a distraction.

It's also their attempt to prove what they consider a foregone conclusion: that members and/or supporters of the Tea Party Movement are white, male, Christian, Southern, redneck, racist, inbred, uneducated, etc.

No matter what comes to the DLLs, they'll either ignore it or, as per usual, get lost at looking at the leaves or needles on the trees, but not be able to see the forest.

They running scared now, as they should be.

John Navratil| 3.29.10 @ 8:21PM

Tim has in the past suggested that googling black people gets images of black people. What's this?

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 8:16PM

I don't like Race Hustlin' ,Race Baitin' Punks like You Other Dude ObamaBoy Tim
Ya Got A Problem , take it up with the pollsters and then come to Tea Party Rallies and ask The Non-Whites why they're Tea Party Rebels , Ya Lazy Buffoon.
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John Navratil| 3.29.10 @ 8:19PM

This "Tim", "Tim" screen name thing gets confusing.

If anyone starts writing "kooky" stuff under my name, just know it ain't me!

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 9:15PM

John,
I don't think any of us could confuse you with a troll trying to post under your name. Yours are some of the most calm and well mannered and reasoned posts around.
This Tim guy just behaved so totally like Toddard and Liberal Reader that I am very leery. Just the whole baiting and switching and the "intellectual dishonesty" spiel... so typical.
Thanks for helping me out.

John Navratil| 3.29.10 @ 10:15PM

It's funny to recall that when I was in the first grade, I used to ask my father question and then find something in his answer which provoked the next question.

There is was- question after question. My dad, of course answered each one. With kids of my own, I cannot imagine how he did it (perhaps mine were really good :)

One expects a five-year-old to ask lots of questions. ;)

Margie| 3.29.10 @ 10:24PM

Yeah but the difference is that you really wanted to know the answers.

C.K. Amos| 3.29.10 @ 8:32PM

What the state-controlled minion media do now is more than stereotype the Tea Party Movement as a bunch of right-wing racist crackpots: They're actively stoking the fires of racism now. That's not just unconscionable, that's treasonous. And for that, they should be driven out of business.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 8:45PM

Quinnipiac Poll March 24th , 2010 :
Looking at voters who consider themselves part of the Tea Party movement:

* 74 percent are Republicans or independent voters leaning Republican;
* 16 percent are Democrats or independent voters leaning Democratic;
* 5 percent are solidly independent;
* 45 percent are men;
* 55 percent are women;
* 88 percent are white;
* 77 percent voted for Sen. John McCain in 2008;
* 15 percent voted for President Barack Obama.

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 9:01PM

A recent poll, commissioned by the National Review Institute and conducted by John McLaughlin and Associates, dispels the claim that the Tea Party is a backwoods fringe movement.
· 62 percent are Republican, 25 percent Democratic, 10 percent Independent
· 16 percent are liberal, 19 percent moderate, 64 percent conservative
· 26 percent are urban residents, 41 percent suburban, 29 percent rural
· 16 percent live in the East; 19 percent in the Midwest, 45 percent in the South, 21 percent in the West
· 81 percent are white; 16 percent non-white
· 36 percent are college grads, 16 percent have post-graduate degrees, 29 percent have some college, 16 percent are high school graduates
· 57 percent are over 55 years old, 26 percent are 41-55; 9 percent are 26- 40

Tim| 3.29.10 @ 9:15PM

New Bloomberg National Tea Party Poll :
Forty percent are age 55 and over, compared with 32 percent of all poll respondents; just 22 percent are under the age of 35, 79 percent are white, and 61 percent are men.

C.K. Amos| 3.29.10 @ 9:20PM

As reported by the U.S. Census Bureau in Dec. 2008, based an estimate as of July 1, 2008, blacks account for 13.5 percent of the U.S. population.

If that value remains constant--it did for 2007 and 2008--for someone to say that blacks make up about 15 percent or so of the Tea Party Movement means that blacks in the TPM are representative of the general population profile.

C.K. Amos| 3.29.10 @ 9:22PM

One more thing: The TPM does not represent the breadth of Americans of any color who've had enough from banana-republic-type-dictator Barack Obama and his administration and the Congress, but especially the majority party, and its allies in the state-controlled media.

Charle| 3.29.10 @ 9:39PM

This Tim guy just behaved so totally like Toddard and Liberal Reader that I am very leery. Just the whole baiting and switching and the "intellectual dishonesty" spiel... so typical.
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Todd Tharp| 3.29.10 @ 11:11PM

Here's an idea to combat the mainstream media bias - someone (or several people) needs to be at the ready at any Tea Party event with a camera (flip HD, etc) with plenty of recording time and backup batteries and just follow the MSM crew around, recording every thing they do and every shot they crop.

Find out who has editing skill and upload your video files to sendspace or some other large file sharing site and let them reduce it to newsworthy parts.

Show how they crop the events, ignoring the mass of decent protesters and highlighting the nuts.

Get in their face when you see them distorting the scene. Ask them on camera. Leftist partisans hate being confronted, just look at the recent Breitbart video from Searchlight NV.

This war to restore our republic will be much easier if we take it to all the statist partisans, especially those who lie about the narrative under the false flag of objectivity.

Northern Rebel| 3.29.10 @ 11:40PM

Here are the results of an unscientific, un-Ivy league , un-elite, poll:

100% of treasonous, socialist-progressive, anti-Americans, who attempt to persuade normal costitutional conservatives, that their point of view is anything but evil, and warped, are treasonous, socialist-progressive, anti-Americans.

Osamas Pajamas| 3.30.10 @ 1:22AM

I've heard that there are provisions in the Healthcare Hijacking Atrocity for kidnapping (conscripting) doctors and other medical professionals. I hope these people arm themselves to the teeth and go on strike and kill anyone who tries to force them to work or anyone who tries to punish them for not working or anyone who tries to punish them for serving patients "outside the system." Overthrow OhBummer!

Yosemeti Sam| 3.30.10 @ 3:02AM

Yo - Leftoids!

Be courageous - tell us where that Mao Zedong White House Christmas tree ornament is at!

Cat - got your tongues?

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…perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. And when the Great Scorer came to write against my name, that would surely make a difference.’ -Early Monday morning over at The American Spectator, Stacy filed a report on some fo the folks he met at Sarah Palin’s TEA Party Express Rally Speech and the lady herself: In that sense, Saturday was a two-for-one press-corps special, providing the media a chance to play…

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