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Winning Washington, Losing America

By on 3.24.10 @ 6:08AM

Can Democrats make voters forget their anger at D.C.?

Seven months is a long time in politics. Seven months ago, in August 2009, Democrats still held the governorships of Virginia and New Jersey. Rep. Parker Griffith was still a Democrat, Rep. Eric Massa was still a member of Congress in good standing, and Sen. Evan Bayh hadn’t announced his retirement. Seven months ago, it had not yet been reported that unemployment had reached a 26-year high of 9.7 percent. Ted Kennedy was still alive and even those who knew that “the liberal lions of the Senate” was at death’s door had no inkling he would soon be replaced by a truck-driving Republican from Wrentham.

A lot of things have changed in seven months, but amid all the changes, ObamaCare has been reliably unpopular. In August 2009, 53 percent of likely voters surveyed by Rasmussen Reports opposed it, whereas 54 percent opposed it last week in the final Rasmussen survey before Nancy Pelosi rammed a “reconciliation” version of the bill through the House on a party-line vote.

Seven months and one week before Election Day, Democrats have begun declaring loudly that the one constant of the past seven months will change dramatically between now and Nov. 2. Unpopular as a legislative proposal, ObamaCare will be enthusiastically embraced by voters, we are assured by Democrats and their media friends, now that it is a fait accompli.

Already, the liberal press is claiming a “notable turnaround” of public opinion, in the words of USA Today’s Susan Page, touting a poll that evidently offered respondents such suggestive phrases as “good first step” and “enthusiastic.” Unlike the Rasmussen polls, which survey likely voters, the USA Today/Gallup result evidently comes from one of those “random adult” polls — hardly a reliable tool for predicting election results.

Democrats seeking a forecast for Nov. 2 would be wise to ignore the cheerleading from their media friends and instead take a closer look at the poll numbers. Of the likely voters Rasmussen surveyed last week, 26 percent “strongly favor” the health-care bill, while 15 percent “somewhat favor” it. That 41 percent “favor” total was exceeded by the 45 percent of voters who “strongly oppose” the bill. Add another 9 percent who “somewhat oppose” ObamaCare, and opponents comprised a solid 54 percent electoral majority — an overall 13-point edge for opponents. But it is the 19-point gap between “strongly favor” and “strongly oppose” that really casts doubt on any talk of a “turnaround” in favor of the previously unpopular proposal.

“The intensity is stronger among those who oppose the plan,” as Rasmussen explained, despite the fact that most voters (64 percent) said they believed Congress was likely to pass the bill. “The disconnect between sustained public opposition to the health care plan and the belief it may pass may be one reason that just 21% of voters believe the federal government has the consent of the governed. This follows a similar disconnect on the bailouts, the government takeover of General Motors and other initiatives that were approved in the past year despite strong public opposition.”

That “disconnect” between the governing class in Washington and American voters is invisible to liberal pundits like Time magazine’s Mark Halperin, who predicted Democratic victory in November because President Obama will “bask once again in the glow of positive press coverage” in the wake of the health-care bill’s enactment.”

Whatever the political value of that media “glow,” positive press hasn’t stopped the president’s approval rating from plummeting in the 14 months since his January 2009 inauguration, when he took office with a 44-point net favorability in the Real Clear Politics average. That RCP average is now near zero, but Obama’s personal popularity will probably be irrelevant Nov. 2. The president won’t be on the ballot and, in a year when polls indicate that Congress is scarcely more popular than syphilis, Democrats have the daunting task of trying to re-elect dozens of congressional incumbents in places where the president has never been especially popular.

Just yesterday, Sarah Palin announced that her political action committee will target 17 Democrats who voted for ObamaCare and who represent districts carried in 2008 by the McCain-Palin ticket. “Maybe when they join the millions of unemployed, they’ll understand why Americans wanted them to focus on job creation and an invigorated private sector.” And even Democrats who voted against the health-care bill may fall victim to an anti-Obama backlash, with a new “grassroots oriented” PAC called That Dog Won’t Hunt taking aim at the so-called Blue Dog Democrats.

Prospects for a “notable turnaround” in the political outlook for Democrats are dimmed mainly by the failure of their stimulus-and-bailout economic agenda. Despite massive injections of deficit spending, unemployment will stay “painfully” high for years, one Federal Reserve official said yesterday. And the administration’s claims that the health-care bill would create jobs must refer mainly, critics say, to the additional 16,500 new Internal Revenue Service agents needed to enforce the law’s provisions.

Do media cheerleaders hailing enactment of the president’s health-care plan as a “historic” victory for Democrats think opponents are now so demoralized they’ll quit? Think again. The Tea Party Express is preparing a 20-day, 42-city tour, beginning Saturday with a “high noon” event in Searchlight, Nevada — hometown of Sen. Harry Reid, who appears doomed to defeat this fall — and ending April 15 with a Tax Day rally in D.C.

Seven months is a long time in politics, but it probably won’t be long enough for Democrats to make millions of Americans forget why they’re still mad as hell at Washington.

About the Author

Robert Stacy McCain is co-author (with Lynn Vincent) of Donkey Cons: Sex, Crime, and Corruption in the Democratic Party (Nelson Current). He blogs at The Other McCain.

Letter to the Editor View all comments (223) |

randy| 3.24.10 @ 6:28AM

It's about JOBS STUPAK!!! Bringing up abortion in the health debate is only there to cause fights and division to keep us from getting what needs to be done, done. This whole health care thing is about jobs jobs jobs, that's why obama is pushing for this hard. We conservatives, on the other hand, have framed the debate in a manner that has crippled our ability to see it for what republicans in the past would have seen it. We are all in it together, and reform is a path to new jobs, medical service, providers and even insurers - and they can't be off-shored.

http://bit.ly/brAKLJ

Ret. Marine| 3.24.10 @ 6:55AM

They might as well be off-shored, hell there will not even be enough Doctor and nurses to go around with the influx of the 30,47, or what ever the made up numbers really represent. My mother is a registered nurse in a trauma center. She is so disturbed by this, yesterday she resigned because partly she knows the one thing she will not tolerate is for the Feds stealing her hard earned income go to abortions. They will have to rely upon more visas to get turd world dictors to do the job, so I ask whats the difference?
Regarding the article. I really do not believe the demonrats know just how mad-as-hell the average citizen really is. This legislation will be challanged in the courts, sure enough, but it does not make it moral or right (see 4th Amend.) to peak into my private life, that's reserved for my Misus and family members, not the gubmint. I am affraid that the population in general will for once get the same treatment as we the Veterans have seen through out our disabled lives since leaving the battle fields. I've got to tell you, I don't wish this on anyone, even the obobots, Myself, I have to travel 173 miles for a Doctor's visit, that's a one way event. We the People deserve to be left along with our private lives and our decisions regarding them. Why do they think this vet is so peeved, because I do not have any skin in the game? wrong, I have left plenty of skin on the battle field. Now it might occure to the obobomutts that they will soon be in the same game, and now I wonder just how much they will appreciate their effort to get this fraud elected. Yes indeed, elections have consequences, they are about to get a very rude awakening. This will be but one of many lesson they will soon realize, learn and the mistake they have made for me and the rest of my Country, may God have mercy upon their souls, for surely I will have none for they deserve it not. Thanks America for the tyranny you have just unleashed upon me, my family and the Country. I will never forget you fricken morons, and never, never forgive you for waht you have inflicted upon my soul, pure hatred, the type I have never though possilbe.

code| 3.24.10 @ 9:08AM

Yes, Obamacare cuts Tricare, too. That was one of the main reasons why Sen. Scott Brown is against this. He has always fought for soldiers and veterans in MA, by representing New England National Guards legally and helped authored a bill that gave a lump sum to returning soldiers to help them transition.

From CBO
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99x.....ptions.pdf
"This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)"

He spoke about it many times including in a FOX Hannity interview. But people are still surprised to hear about it until now.

So it is very sad that people are now blaming him for the passage of Obamacare. He has been consistent in speaking out against Obamacare.
It is not his fault that the president and Democrats will not allow the 41 Republican Senators' votes to matter because the president broke his promise not to pass healthcare through reconciliation which only requires 50 Senators' votes plus 1 from VP Joe Biden.

MTB| 3.24.10 @ 1:48PM

Good points, Ret Marine (I'm Ret Air Force, myself). Your point that the dems don't realize how mad we (avg citizens) are, I've noticed the MSM blitz to convince us that Americans are now warming up to the health care LAW (no longer a bill). The effect is if they say it enough, Americans will start to believe it, and they're right. We have to stand strong and remember what this is going to do to our country and what it took to literally ram it down our throats. Send the dem party a message in Nov that they will never forget. And if we can somehow destroy this party in the process, even better.

MobMember42| 3.24.10 @ 4:39PM

Retired Marine, Thank you for your service. You are right, elections have consequences. They have no idea what is about to hit them.

Alan Brooks| 3.24.10 @ 6:27PM

"she knows the one thing she will not tolerate is for the Feds stealing her hard earned income go to abortions."

But if the fetasses grow up they'll become welfare recipients. Join the Libetopian Party, Ret. You and mom get a special deal: $99.99 for libertopian mag for pne year, plus the T-Shirt, the cofee mug.
Mag, mug, 'n' shirt, boy! Cain't beat it with a coathanger!

Alan Brooks| 3.24.10 @ 8:25PM

"randy| 3.24.10 @ 6:28AM
It's about JOBS STUPAK!!! Bringing up abortion in the health debate is only there to cause fights and division to keep us from getting what needs to be done, done."

Fee fi fo fum, I smell the blood of a libertarian.

G. Mortensen| 3.24.10 @ 10:54AM

Randy, this bill will have the very opposite effect. This is a jobs killer and a freedom stealer. It is obvious you haven't a clue about small business or how the insurance industry works.
The ultimate goal of this legislation is to put insurance companies out of business or under government control so that "government" can ride to the rescue with a single payer plan when they fail. But all of this may be academic as this law is fiscally unsustainable. What don't you understand about our national debt? How long do you think we can perpetuate multiple Ponzi schemes (Medicare, Medicaid, SS) and still pay for Health Care for all? All of these programs are going broke and this dumb law actually steals 500 billion of nonexistent money from one of them to get started. No, my boy, this is not about jobs. This is about Obama's vision for this country and I will guarantee there will be far, far fewer jobs in a bankrupt America.

MTB| 3.24.10 @ 1:52PM

Well said, G. I was amazed at how Nancy Pelousy and her lemmings touted SS and Medicare as examples of the success the gov't has had in nationalizing care for the elderly, retirement for the elderly, when both of these programs are BROKE! They have failed! And so well ObamaCare.

Sam Vaughn| 3.24.10 @ 11:08AM

Randy, if you are who you say you are, are stupid. I don't mean that as an insult, your logic is about the same as "we've got to do something about healthcare". Any bill that requires the hiring of 14,000 - 16,000 IRS agents for "enforcement" and excludes the "elected elite" is dreadfully bad. It's like the residents of Dresden in another lifetime saying gee, the construction of those gas chambers will create a lot of "green jobs".

Phil B| 3.24.10 @ 11:31AM

HAHAHAHA!! Its all about redistribution. New jobs - yeah I bet those will pay well with the DEMS in charge. The burdening costs (do you really think this will save $$ - the taxes in the bill are oppressive to the constituents who work hard and developed skills to succeed - lets have them pay for a SERVICE/GOOD - not a right - for someome else) to the states will raise state and local taxes, Medicare "care" will be reduced but if your not approaching your 60's don't worry about it, the doctor's fix will be an additional tax requirement -- the 5% can't pay for everything. Doctors are already threatening to retire leave because of financial and more importantly, moral issues - abortion, the DHHS making policy that could violate the Hypocratic oath. It's going to be great -- yeah, taxes always creates jobs.

Tomas| 3.24.10 @ 2:48PM

If Republicans in Congress think they are immune from the coming voter backlash, they had better strap on their reality hats.

Remember, the deciding votes in Obama's 2008 victory were disaffected Republicans who pulled the D lever because of their anger towards their party. They now understand that they made a HUGE mistake. These people are both ashamed and very upset at their decision.

They will bring their conscience into the polls in 2010, where they will attempt to right the sinking ship of state, and in doing so assuage their guilt.

Democrats will certainly fall, of that there is no doubt. However, incumbent Republicans are also in danger of losing their seats. Their inability to show any backbone in the last 13 months will reap them a bitter harvest this fall. However, unlike 2010, Republican voters will not wait until November to do the house-cleaning. They will take incumbents out in the primaries.

The 2011 congress is going to look very different. On both sides on the isle.

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emo| 3.25.10 @ 12:23AM

So which incumbent GOP members are going to lose to liberal democrats this election (besides Joe Cao). Also aside from McCain which GOP members are being "primaried"

megapotamus | 3.24.10 @ 7:39PM

It is probably not news to most commenters here but Randy is a moby operator. He is a liberal in cheap clothing, check his little link. Why don't these scum ever play it straight? Oh yeah....

emo| 3.25.10 @ 12:26AM

1. Obamacare will cost jobs
2. If you think medical jobs cant be offshored, youre not paying attention. Already some medical procedures have the patient in the USA and doctor in India.

RetAF| 3.30.10 @ 8:33AM

Haha, look at countries that have socialized medicine now. It's hard to find a doctor that speaks English...In England.

Deborah D | 3.24.10 @ 7:01AM

You, Randy, are no conservative, and we on this site were not born yesterday. We can spot what Rush would call a "seminar caller" (but we call a troll) easily.

The only jobs, jobs, jobs this will create are 16,500 IRS jobs plus all the jobs created in government to maintain the 100 odd new bureaucracies this bill creates.

This bill destroys jobs and companies. I suggest you read the latest in the medical device industry here: http://www.washingtonexaminer......60652.html
That doesn't even include all of the insurance companies that will fold or all the doctors who will get out of the medical field or move to another country to practice.

Get a clue.

JP| 3.24.10 @ 9:22AM

Deb,
Randy is either a spambot or a hit and run troll. You won't be seeing him again. Best to ignore

Avogadra| 3.24.10 @ 10:49AM

Yup. My husband is a doctor and thanks to the events of last Sunday, we are in the process of shutting down his practice. He will not be a slave to ObamaCare and its bureaucrats.

Occam's Tool| 3.24.10 @ 1:32PM

I can certainly see your point. Myself, I am waiting until I turn 59.5 years old, and then I hope to retire from medicine, moving to Quito, Ecuador, where the weather is always in the high sixties during the day.

This used to be a fun job.

c. j. acworth| 3.24.10 @ 6:30PM

What kind of health care system do they have in Ecuador, OT ? You may be able to open a small clinic and have fun doing medicne again.

MTB| 3.24.10 @ 1:55PM

Best of luck to you and your family, I know that had to have been a difficult decision. There were a number of posters yesterday who basically said the same thing, they're selling off/closing up their businesses and laying people off because they won't pay the additional taxes to support this "fatally failed [law]."

Deborah D | 3.24.10 @ 2:19PM

I think a doctor's revolt -- loudly and with cameras rolling in the face of America -- might wake up some Americans. Bless you all, doctors and families. I have two friends married to doctors and they are shell shocked. They can't believe this is the United States of America. Their country would never ruin their lives, but this isn't America any longer...

Thanks Obama and all you crazy people on the left.

chuck| 3.24.10 @ 5:58PM

I saw a sign in front of a church today that said: Pray for Haiti. I told my wife that tey need to change it to "Pray for America".

R.I.P. America

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saleboter| 3.24.10 @ 7:14AM

"Can Democrats make voters forget their anger at D.C.?"

No

MTB| 3.24.10 @ 1:58PM

But they're going to try. First is the MSM will start talking up how good this law is, how Americans are accepting it, they'll show poll numbers that show that the majority of the country is glad to have ObamaCare. Then the dems will begin the lies of their political lives to sway the voters to put them in office once again (or for the first time). Don't fall for it. Vote out every single democrat, whether they voted for this bill or not. The problem is the dem party, not just the individual politicians. So, send the party a message. We are not going to be, as one democrat recently said, "controlled." This is OUR country and THEY work for US!

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martin j smith| 3.24.10 @ 7:47AM

here is what has to happen: On every day and at every opportunity no efforts should be spared to bring up health care-the economy and jobs. And for good measure, national security.
Focus should include: The untenable costs
the lies ( yup its time for politicians to call out all Dems as LIARS)
Be prepared to not only counter Dem misinformation such as phony polls ( and in this regard, call out any phony pollster ) Do a national wide ongoing"teach in" on what this health care legislation contains and its implications.
Attack impending legislation such as immigration reform as poltically motivated and further ruin our economy. Similarly with cap and trade.
Focuus on the so called "blue dogs" as phonies.

Be prepared for voter registration and voter fraud--both equally.

Get candidates that "get it" meaning there is no way to work with this Democrat Party--period.
Anyone who sees it otherwise --out!!!!!!!!!!!!
These are just a few things that will help prevent people forgetting what is important in 2010 and 2012.

Damocles| 3.24.10 @ 8:09AM

People are not dumb, but their emotions can run hot and cold. What DemRats are counting on is that we will have our emotional fires tamped down to mere embers by November. We must be sure the people Do Not Forget this traitorous action aimed at the heart of our nation.

The Sword will meet swift punishment against those who are false against our God-given country.

MTB| 3.24.10 @ 2:02PM

The MSM proponganda blitz has already begun. I hope Conservatives are ready to remind and keep reminding the American people how this bill was passed--all the broken promises, lies, distortions, pay-offs, back room deals, blackmail, threats and bribery. Its indefensible and it needs to be brought up again and again and again until the dems are voted out of office. ALL OF THEM! YES, WE CAN!

Blackwatch| 3.24.10 @ 8:46PM

civil disobedience now. ON 04/15/2010 we should band together and arrest everyone who voted for this bill. whether they are in DC or in their district we should place them under citizen's arrest with no less than 500 persons in attendence doing a mass arrest of one scum bag congress person and their entire staff too. Place then in irons for crimes against the constitutuion and parade them throught the streets to the local police station. turn them over to the local police. cameras rolling the whole time.

Be prepared to be arrested your self--all 500+ of you. Demand a trial by your peers if the charges are not dropped. do something about this travesty--show others that we are alarmed at this criminal behavior. Taking our freedoms one by one is still a crime--a slow motion crime--but a crime never the less.

then in the fall at 4-3-2-1 days before the election repeat the above process at each and every campaign stop. Riducle and embarass them.

martin j smith| 3.24.10 @ 8:11AM

An important lesson from the Tea Party protest this past weekend:

The Democrat Party will do anything,say anthing to try to discourage opposition. For example the well known hit pieces,false accusations ( as done last weekend ) false polls, photo ops, and of course the Biog Lie in media. There is a need to be ready not only to counter this but to go on offense.
Paint the democrat Party as Socialists and what that means to your freedom
Call out liars
Educate voters
etc.

Deborah D | 3.24.10 @ 8:49AM

The last Tea Party I attended was just a couple of weeks ago in Wilmington, NC. We were on one side of the street (nice-sized group for a last minute protest in front of where our Senator Kay Hagan was to speak). Well, SEIU had their own protestors across the street. Small group with ready-made signs. One guy insisted on being on our side of the street with his sign. We tried to get him to leave, but he knew that we were polite protestors, so he had nothing to fear -- but if he could just get us mad and something could be caught on tape, well that would be a win.

Finally, the police came over and made him go over to the other side where he belonged -- although later he was back again.

It wouldn't surprise me if there weren't ringers in the Tea party protest in front of the capitol the other day. If there was any hollering out of "racist" comments, they were done by the Democrats. We know how they work.

I mean why did the Dems stroll through the protestors? Isn't there any other way to get into the House than the (I believe) West lawn where the Tea Partiers were protesting? They weren't afraid. They wanted to instigate something, and if they couldn't instigate something, they would just make it up.

This is what we have to fight.

Phil B| 3.24.10 @ 11:44AM

You know if that really happened it was shameful but obviously the work of a few. Can't control who shows up -- a couple guys throw stuff at players at a sporting event and THEY are the problem not the rest of the crowd. However, given the facts that there seem to be no witnesses, other folks in the area claimed they didn't hear anything including a black Tea Party member and no recordings of the so called taunts (seems like with all those cameras around there'd be some direct physical evidence if it actaully happened).

victor| 3.24.10 @ 2:46PM

Phil:
"there seem to be no witnesses, other folks in the area claimed they didn't hear anything"

No witnesses in a crowd of a couple of hundred people?
No one with cell phone cameras?
How conveeeeeenient!
If this was really real, that footage would be on Youtube, that guy would be beaten to a pulp and charges would be pressed.
And it would be on all of the MSM "newscasts".
Nope, Nada, Zilch!
None of that happened.

Tim| 3.24.10 @ 8:18AM

We,Tea Party Rebels Will " Remember In November ! "

We Show Up And Walk The Talk On November 2nd !

Ken (Old Texican)| 3.24.10 @ 8:27AM

TODAY FOLKS! ..........TODAY!

Call your county or state Republican committee and find out who is running against the nearest Democrat for congress. Check the dude out, (they all have web-sites).

If you have not had primaries in your State yet, find out who the Republican candidates are...and what they are about.
Contact their campaign committee chairman and ask how you can help.

TODAY!

a-j| 3.24.10 @ 8:40AM

So many grumpy, paranoid, prejudiced white men these days.

Melvin| 3.24.10 @ 8:50AM

Bite me, that old tired racist message isn't going to work any more.
You used this message to cow us and make us bow our heads before but no more.

Deborah D | 3.24.10 @ 8:55AM

Amen, Melvin. The only racism is on the other side...apparently being white and organizing to save the country makes you a racist.

Screw you, liars. We're done with that. The only prejudice we have is against those who would destroy our country.

MobMember42| 3.24.10 @ 4:56PM

Amen Deborah. I embrace the name calling at this point. Its intended purpose to make us mad doesn't work anymore. Bring it!

Tim| 3.24.10 @ 9:20AM

"So many grumpy, paranoid, prejudiced white men these days. "

Since you brought it up, that's probably what the Japanese commander on Iwo Jima was thinking as he looked out of his bunker at our approaching armada in 1945.

Janet| 3.24.10 @ 9:45AM

Some of the "grump, paranoid, prejudiced white men" are single, female, ex-Democrats who will work like hell to unseat the Socialists in the next election.

Nemesis| 3.24.10 @ 12:16PM

And also married mom ex-democrats who live and breathe throwing the bums out.

Curtis Rasmussen| 3.24.10 @ 1:34PM

Also black men who came to their senses about the Democrat plans to turn our constitutional republic into a modern plantation, one where all men are created equal-as cradle to grave corvees.

Deborah D | 3.24.10 @ 2:29PM

Thanks, Curtis!! I was a liberal and I was cured in 1993-94 ... it's like the sky opening up!!

J.C.| 3.25.10 @ 12:52AM

Chinese have a saying for thousand of years: The sky is high and the emperor is far, far away(for an ideal country).
Folks, the emperor is coming down on us and the sky is falling, the sky is falling!

Michael| 3.24.10 @ 2:52PM

And a grumpy young white guy who is a vet and a federal employee.

Jim Hlavac | 3.24.10 @ 7:40PM

There are also a lot of grumpy gay men. Grumpy business owners. Grumpy taxpayers. Grumpy everybody.

The Socialists are grumpy because it didn't go far enough. The other 65% of us are grumpy because it went to far. Oooh, there are grumpy people everywhere -- except in government and the main-media-- they are giddy at the prospects, whatever they think they are.

Oh yeah, there are grumpy Chinese who don't relish their investment going down the drain.

From the looks of it, there have never before been so many grumpy people.

No one is "gruntled" but the idiots in charge think all is well in the land. Something is wrong with this picture.

Deborah D | 3.24.10 @ 12:40PM

Bless you, lady. I'm with you!!

megapotamus | 3.24.10 @ 7:50PM

All you X or wanna, gonna be X libbies, do not despair. We love you and want you on our team. Current defiant liberals, we love you and want you to get the help you so desperately need. And quick. Is liberalism a pre-existing condition? Yep.

emy| 3.24.10 @ 9:54AM

Am truly sorry to see the Tea Party rallyists tarred by the mainstream media with ugly names.

I believe that they were God-fearing patriots who loved the country.

Fox tried to give it a balanced coverage including interviewing Capitol police and they found out that Rep. Cleaver who said someone spit on him could not identify the guy who did it in a line up.
http://www.americanthinker.com.....ear_1.html

Everything is feeling upside down nowadays - lying is right if the end justifies the means.

Every single piece of legislation "is the RIGHT thing to do" but the right is defined more as a civil right in their eyes.

Warrior | 3.24.10 @ 2:32PM

What is the crime for spitting at someone? Of course in this situation it was a waste of good saliva.

DukeD| 3.24.10 @ 10:43AM

So many whiny, wimpy, uneducated and narcissistic people out there these days with their heads up their asses a-j... look in the mirror.

RAMIII| 3.24.10 @ 1:24PM

a-j can't look in the mirror -- well, he has his head where the sun don't shine.

Marilyn T| 3.24.10 @ 11:06AM

And may I add--so many unChristian old men and women on this blog. Uncharitable hatemongers.

Deborah D | 3.24.10 @ 12:13PM

You may add whatever you like, but it certainly doesn't make it true.

You uncharitable hatemonger.

terry| 3.24.10 @ 12:17PM

Hear, hear.

Dan| 3.24.10 @ 12:35PM

Marilyn T, you are up early for a socialist Troll! Going to the Post Office to pick up your government check can be done at any time of the day. I hope that you keep your mouth stuffed with government cheese so that the world does not suffer from the stupid things you surely say.

megapotamus | 3.24.10 @ 7:52PM

These libbie guilt mongers are truly pathetic. Hey, if you really believe all that crap about AGW and other sins of humanity, jump off a bridge! It is your only consistent recourse.

TMann | 3.24.10 @ 10:46PM

LMAO.....this is hilarious!!!!!!!!!!! "keep your mouth stuffed w/government cheese" LMAO

American Sharecropper| 3.24.10 @ 11:46AM

Ahh, the inevitable accusations of "racism". The predictable reply of the intellectual and morally bankrupt. When you can't argue with reason and fact, simply respond with unsupported, silly accusations of "racism". Yeah, that'll show em!

Dan| 3.24.10 @ 12:28PM

a-j, the guilt game is dead. The left has bled America for 60 years with guilt. Despite all of the welfare, the preferences, the give-aways, we cannot help those that will not work, will not plan, and will not sacrifice for something better. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. We have reached the end of that road and are at the gates now, staring into the abyss. I think that this is a moment of clarity for most Americans and the whining and heckling of the left is now just noise. As Melvig said, Bite me.

megapotmaus | 3.24.10 @ 7:43PM

So what if Barry's opposition is in part racial? His support is TOTALLY racial and he is a proud racist himself. It is his RELIGION!

Melvin| 3.24.10 @ 8:46AM

I for one don't like losing. I didn't spend twenty years in the military with my fellow brothers and sisters in keeping the wolf away from this Country's door only to have some jug eared leftist socialist march right on in with red carpet treatment.
We will with the grace of God, will win the day again with the eventuality of the American populace realizing the terrible, terrible mistake they have made.
I have posted in an article prosed by Marc Rotterman in what we need to do before November.
We can't rely on this anger lasting till November, we need to hammer the Left as a boxer keeps hammering his opponent not allowing the left to regain their footing or their message.
Our fellow Americans will turn their attention to Summer, and the holidays and if we think for one moment that the left is just going to sit fat and happy and not respond to us, then we deserve to lose.
We must paint a picture of the real Obama and what this Country will further lose under is dark, and evil hand.
The power he acquires will only sate his appetite for a short while, he will not stop until the heel of his jackboot, Pelosi's stilettos and the IRS's new shotguns are firmly placed on the back of our heads to force us into complete submission.
We must fight this scourge that has befallen our Country like never before, we must as Americans and Conservatives declare war on this new Communism.

Rick H.| 3.24.10 @ 8:50AM

I am amazed that the first poster thinks anyone will believe he is a "conservative".

TMann | 3.24.10 @ 10:50PM

I agree w/you Rick H. a lib is a lib through & through, conservatism isn't something you can pretend.

Tim| 3.24.10 @ 8:53AM

a-j plays The Race Card.

See Ya on November 2nd Boy !

MK| 3.24.10 @ 8:58AM

SEND A STRONG message! Vote the dems out! Make them wish they cared what the people want.

MTB| 3.24.10 @ 2:09PM

Exactly right, MK. All of the dems, good, bad or indifferent. The dem party at least a strong message from the American electorate that they have pulled this kind of BS on us for the last time. Ultimately, I'd like to see the entire dem party demolished. I'd rather have divisions in the Repub party than have to contend with Marxist-socialist progressives.

Bill Lawrence | 3.24.10 @ 9:01AM

If this thing works and life gets better for everybody of course they are going to win.

They were right and we were wrong.

OTOH, if life gets worse, and insurance rates quickly and dramatically rise, and people start finding it harder to get a doctor appointment, well, the Dems are toast. This is their baby entirely.

I suspect ObamaCare is going to have the same among of success as the stimulus package and the Coakley candidacy.

mtb| 3.24.10 @ 2:29PM

Let's see Bill, my taxes are going to go up. Businesses taxes are going to go up, which means their prices are going to go up, which means I have to pay more for goods and services, so I have less money to buy things that I need/want or just to save, or to help my kids with their educations. I hear doctors are giving up their practices, nurses are quitting their jobs, others are closing up their businesses and laying people off, which means more unemployment, which means my kids will have a harder time finding and getting a good job because there are more people looking for scarce jobs. And the benefits to this wondrous plan don't even begin for another four years. So far, from what I've already seen and heard, it doesn't seem to me that we are/were wrong. This is nothing more or less than a government take over of the best health care system in the world. Did insurance need to be reformed? Absolutely. There are things in this bill that I like, and should be there, but there is so much more in it that is BAD for America, that it should never have been passed. The ONLY reason we have this insipid law today was to give BHO a political victory, not because it was good for the American people.

Bill Lawrence | 3.24.10 @ 3:36PM

IOW, mtb, the Dems are toast.

Dave | 3.24.10 @ 9:09AM

I agree with many Americans in their attempt to get some on the conserative side to calm down and ... get a grip. A repeal of Obama's national health care takeover is not going to happen. By the time November's elections come around, the sheep will be sound asleep and any newly elected elephants, along with the remaining Republicans will all be in the process of slooowly shifting back to their predictible CYA mode while prepareing themselves to suck-up up to the looming Amnesty and Free Goodies For Gomez mob.

Don't know who originally said it, but it's quite true: "Elections have consequences." And it's ESPECIALLY true when you elect a radical street thug who, in turn, appoints a ruling majority of radical tyranists of ALL colors to positions of high government power.

"When the dealin's done", we get the government we vote for. And all the "post dance whiners" on our side who gave this pinko punk the keys to 1600 (and NOW) the combination to our bankrupt national money vault have no excuse to be whizing and moaning ... NOW.

To be fair, the Obamas are an entertaining pair to watch and, frankly, have a lot in common with the cultural thread of America. The only problem is, as I see it ... their name's not Jackson and aren't nearly a funny as The Jeffersons. Actually, Barry doesn't look a lot like George, but Michelle bears a striking resembalance to ... Weezy.

Meanwhile ...

Soon to be heard at a seniors rest home near you: beeeeeeeeeeeep - "Hey, man, pull that plug and stop wastin' 'lectricity. The ol' white dude just went Code Toast. Is it break time yet?"

Melvin| 3.24.10 @ 9:35AM

Your musings have some validity, but...historically our enemies have always underestimated the resolve of the American people and it has always taken a earth shaking moment to shake us from our complacency.
Americans gave the benefit of the doubt to President Obama and truly wanted to call him the hope that would unify this Country, but alas he has gone from the hope to the enemy.
This you cannot disparage, it is there, it is real, and it is growing.

MTB| 3.24.10 @ 2:34PM

Thanks, Melvin. You are correct. Following his mentor, Saul Ailinsky (sp?), Obama lied his way to victory in Nov 2008. He did what he had to do, he said what he had to say to get elected. He had no intention of keeping any of his promises, because what he promised is not him. He is a Marxist-socialist, period.

We may have to put up with him for another 3 years, but we can stop him and his Progressive movement by throwing out the dems and putting in Conservative Republicans.

megapotamus | 3.24.10 @ 7:59PM

First on your list of horribles, of course, is John McCain. He did not have the stones for a real fight; could not conceive that a true and frank anti-American could gain the nom of the Democrats but even HE is not QUITE beyond education. Even HE is finally coming, although late, to the fight. The good news, kinda, is that this absurdist pastiche of corruption and communism has not the slightest chance of "succeeding" even on its own declared terms. Obama is in the ditch and standing on the gas. The wheels are digging in but there is no forward motion. Let the carpers carp. Let the zealots zeal. O is a pathetic moron and failure. We will bury him and not in the distant future either.

JamesD| 3.24.10 @ 9:16AM

My employer is busily off-shoring jobs. Many local jobs are now gone and our work load has tripled. My employer has this morning announced an expected increase in health benefits due to a 40% excise tax as a result of this bill. Since this will effect each and every paycheck, politicians will be hard pressed to make me 'forget' it.

JamesD| 3.24.10 @ 9:18AM

make that - health benefits COST.

Cybercorrespondent | 3.24.10 @ 9:52AM

The Obama-Pelosi-Reid machine has combined the radicalism of Saul Alinsky, the corruption of Springfield, Ill., and the machine power politics of Chicago. What we saw Sunday night was a pressured, bought, intimidated vote worthy of Hugo Chavez and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, but unworthy of the United States of America.
Democratic Congressman, Alcee Hastings, articulated the principles of this machine mentality perfectly when he said, "There ain't no rules here, we're trying to accomplish something. . . .All this talk about rules. . . .When the deal goes down . . . we make 'em up as we go along." And he’s one of the more honest democrats in Congress who while serving as a federal judge, was impeached and removed from the bench before being elected to the House.

The American people will not allow a corrupt machine to dictate their future and the ballot box is not our only option.

Unite Against Tyranny

Develop websites to expose leftist organizations, leftist celebrities, companies that support the leftist agenda and all left wing publications. A good place to start is here, http://www.discoverthenetworks.....?indid=977 If this blog does not produce a live link, visit my blog.

Let advertisers know that “We the People,” who are the real consumers, will no longer buy products advertised on political leftist propaganda broadcast media, magazines and newspapers. Display a list of all leftwing publications on blogs.

Businesses with waiting rooms stop displaying leftist publications like the New York Times and Time magazine. Display a list of all leftwing publications on blogs.

As soon as the left sends in groups like ACORN to stage protests in front of businesses they like to control with intimidation, “We the People,” need to come out in droves in support of those businesses.

Stop believing what the leftist media like MSNBC, NBC, CNN, ABC and CBS are telling you no mater how convincing they try to sound. They have had many years of experience in pulling wool over people’s eyes. Display a list of leftwing media outlets on blogs.

Stop watching all leftwing shows and state sponsored news propaganda media outlets that use journalism as a disguise. Also let the advertisers know that we the real consumers will no longer buy products advertised there.
Expose all leftwing shows and news propaganda media outlets on blogs.

Boycott all movies done by leftist actors and producers.
Expose all leftwing celebrities on blogs.


Since the leftist media ignores the needs of “We the People”, stage peaceful protest in front of their doors exhibiting signs such as “In God We Trust” and “Don’t Tread on Me.

Find out which teaching institutions have Marxist professors, expose them and mount peaceful protests in front of their campuses.

Stop buying and start selling stock of companies that support the leftist agenda. Expose those companies on blogs.

Explain to your kids what is taking place and how this might affect their future.

Add your own ideas to my proposal and pass it on as you wish. A modern version of email chain letter and clever YouTube skits are also options. This is not about race or social status. In God’s eyes we are all created equal and if we don’t come together to oppose the tyranny that is threatening our freedoms, the opportunities that every American once enjoyed will be lost not only for future generations, but for you personally. Legal immigrants included. If you think your piece of the pie is too small now, soon there will be no pie left.

Cybercorrespondent
http://cybercorrespondent.blogspot.com

rlf| 3.24.10 @ 10:21AM

good idea love it..maybe we can get these jokers out of office..

Deborah D | 3.24.10 @ 12:23PM

Dear Cybercorrespondent -- Thank you for these excellent ideas. I plan to post to my blog and e-mail them around.

We're with you!!

Network Administrator| 3.24.10 @ 9:57AM

54% opposed the bill because 15% of those wanted it to be more liberal, i.e. Public Option or Single Payer. So, 39% felt it was "too liberal"... Get your facts straight, you are embarrassing yourself. Conservatives need to step back and take a breath and actually take a constructive hand in governing this country, otherwise the off-the-tracks Tea Party nutjobs are going to take over the GOP, and when that happens, your party is doomed.

1FreeMan| 3.24.10 @ 10:31AM

You are not the network administrator.
This post needs to be removed.

Typical liberal jerk pretending to be someone he/she is not. Paint me surprised: Another lying democrat liberal.

Douglas| 3.24.10 @ 11:21AM

More fuzzy math...I will accept your claim that 15% wanted it to be more leftist, but to assume that means that if it were more liberal, the numbers would drop to 39% is ridiculous. A more liberal bill would pick up liberal support, duh, but it would also turn more centrists away from it. Probably at a much higher net percentage of opposition. You would be looking at 60% opposed instead of 54%. Congress passed the most liberal bill they could get away with and it was written by the insurance company lobbyists. They benefit the most financially here.

MTB| 3.24.10 @ 2:39PM

Way to school him, Douglas.

megapotamus | 3.24.10 @ 8:07PM

Fuck you.

bj| 3.25.10 @ 9:04AM

Please keep that thought. and do not lecture on us on nut jobs. "control the people" was spoken by one of you...

Hardcard| 3.24.10 @ 10:00AM

Beware the enemy is at hand !!!!!! Don't relax they are embolden by their take over of our health
and wealth.

louis tully| 3.24.10 @ 10:05AM

Hey, even the Fox Allstars, the supposed braintrust of right of center Washington elite, bought into the propaganda that the country now suddenly loves Maobamacare. They were giddy as schoolgirls on air last night, toasting the Chairman as a "winner."

Freemen and women need to cut their ties to DC altogether and look to their states to reassert their sovereignty.

Deborah D | 3.24.10 @ 2:01PM

I saw that and I was yelling at the TV! I was yelling that they needed to get out of D.C. and into the real world. The bubble is too confining!!

Tony in Central PA| 3.24.10 @ 10:09AM

I don't share the author's optimism, but I hope I am wrong. It became obvious, even before Obama was elected, that the Democratic wanna - be oligarchists have staked their future to the conviction that a critical mass of the voting public are ignorant, have short memories and are easily distracted. So far, their cynical strategy has been proven right. By November, my guess is that many voters won't remember the awful health care legislation, but they'll know which Kardashian has a urinary tract infection and who's likely to win " American Idol ". The progovernment media will dutifully blitz the masses will all manner of distraction and disninformation and create a different set of momentary, emotionally framed concerns likely to soon vanish after the election.

Again, I hope I'm wrong, but I became very pessimistic about the future of America when we elected somebody like Obama and a Democratic Supermajority.

blackwatch| 3.24.10 @ 8:51PM

civil disobedience now. ON 04/15/2010 we should band together and arrest everyone who voted for this bill. whether they are in DC or in their district we should place them under citizen's arrest with no less than 500 persons in attendence doing a mass arrest of one scum bag congress person and their entire staff too. Place then in irons for crimes against the constitutuion and parade them throught the streets to the local police station. turn them over to the local police. cameras rolling the whole time.

Be prepared to be arrested your self--all 500+ of you. Demand a trial by your peers if the charges are not dropped. do something about this travesty--show others that we are alarmed at this criminal behavior. Taking our freedoms one by one is still a crime--a slow motion crime--but a crime never the less.

then in the fall at 4-3-2-1 days before the election repeat the above process at each and every campaign stop. Riducle and embarass them.

blackelkspeaks| 3.24.10 @ 10:10AM

The Marxist Democrats have been allowed to conduct a long march through our institutions for over 80 years unabated. The American people have enabled that march every step of the way. Marxist Democrats have been in majority control of every level of our government since FDR throughout our country for that entire time, with minor moments of RINO Republicanism thrown in. The leftward lurch of our institutions has been relentless because that's what the American people have wanted to happen. They've enabled it and approved it. If you don't believe this, then consider that the leftward lurch gathers a head of steam in thirty year intervals, accelerating the rate of government growth at new breakneck speeds (FDR New Deal, Johnson Great Society, Hussein Whatever). Given this history, why SHOULDN"T the beltway elitists (who are continually re-elected repeatedly, on and on, ad nauseum) expect that this time will not be any different than any other? They know our history better than we do ourselves or are willing to admit!

Seriously, has there ever been a period during the past 80 years when the people of this country demanded a REDUCTION of government at any meaningful level? When they were motivated in sufficient numbers that mattered to demand the ELIMINATION of any governmental agency, any at all? Even when Reagan won, the limited government model wasn't compelling enough to the majority of the American people to achieve this end. For cryin' out loud, when the Republicans were elevated in 1994, they STILL couldn't bring themselves to even shut down PBS! And I'm supposed to believe that people are now so up in arms, after accepting over 80 years of these abominations, that NOW, JUST MAYBE, the tipping point has been reached and we'll see the brain dead somnambulists awake from their stupor? We are now just like the Germans in the 1930s. I wouldn't rely on Americans to identify outright evil even after we all are herded into the cattle cars and railroaded into the ovens!

Any rational man can't be anything but negative about all this. I can't expect anything but a bad outcome for our future. Americans will forget this latest outrage as surely as they forgot the atrocities of 911 within a few short years and almost elected JEffinK in the middle of our latest shooting war! We have already lost the Republic! The election of 2008 just put the nail in the coffin of a dead corpse!

Those who say that we need Revolution 2.0 or Civil War 2.0 or whatever you want to call it are blind to the truth of recent American history. We simply are not the same people that created this great nation any longer. Not anywhere NEAR such people as those great Patriots. We are more like the Germans circa 1933 or the Russians circa 1918! We just don't have what it takes anymore.

Deborah D | 3.24.10 @ 12:38PM

Maybe you don't have what it takes, but WE do. Go to your corner and give up. We plan to fight.

blackelkspeaks| 3.24.10 @ 4:03PM

Lokkit, Deborha D. I've watched this sad story unfold for over forty years. I've never voted for a Democrat, for any office, at any level, my entire life. But I've watched many, many people in this country do so time and again regardless of the evil that they repeatedly do to this nation. The disappointments I've seen in national, state, and local politics are too numerous to mention. I didn't need some sort of eleventh hour epiphany, like the election of Hussein, to see what absolute monsters Democrats are and have been. All I can say to people like you is "Where the hell have you BEEN for the past forty years"!!

Deborah D | 3.24.10 @ 6:38PM

Look, if you truly are a conservative then you shouldn't be all "woe is me" -- you should want to fight. You shouldn't be trying to discourage those who do.

The past nearly 20 years I've been voting against every liberal. Thank you, Rush Limbaugh.

megapotamus | 3.24.10 @ 8:10PM

Hey, I could say that too. Instead of bitching about how everyone ELSE is late to the party how about cracking some seals and pouring some libations? Don't get all cranky, this party is just getting started! And I'm 45!

Deborah D | 3.25.10 @ 8:57AM

Hey megapotamus -- I was in high school 40 years ago!

I believe in the old Lee Iacocca motto: "Lead, follow or get out of the way."

Ken (Old Texican)| 3.24.10 @ 10:12AM

Well good!
The slackers and trolls have finally dragged out of bed to enliven our day. Twerps

Beth | 3.24.10 @ 10:16AM

Call to battle:

http://thecrosssection.com/201.....-to-fight/

danny| 3.24.10 @ 10:24AM

Wow! Janet, you are the kind of change this country really needs.

Clifford Farris| 3.24.10 @ 10:26AM

It is great fun to pit the Democrats against the Republicans in a horse race/UFC fight as portrayed here. The United States citizens tragically suffer agonizing collateral damage. The government blew it.

The first tragedy is the legions of people who legitimately need health care and lack insurance. The left Obama hand gives them health insurance while the right Obama hand takes away one third of the doctors to provide it.

The second tragedy is that all producing people (and a few rich) will be extorted ten to 20 percent of their income over a generation to pass even more money into the great government abyss. An additional 5 to 10 percent of their life's expenditures will be sucked into a value added tax.

For these producing people
1)think of the unrealizable education opportunities for their kids caused by this tax,
2)think of their unrealizable quality of life such as travel to other cultures,
3)think of the cramped living conditions, mental problems, and shared diseases caused by many people living under the one roof they can afford,
4)think of the shortened lives of grand parents who will not enrich the kids as previously.

Downtrodden people are used to this, and will continue poorer than before. Their government friends have “helped” them again.

The others will see “fair” equality – at a low level for all.

MTB| 3.24.10 @ 2:47PM

You are right. The "less fortunate" will be comforted that there at least more poor people now than before. Obama & Co's plan is not to raise the less fortunate up by helping them to help themselves, but to drag the most productive members of society down to their level. Very good observation. Thanks.

Cliff Farris| 3.25.10 @ 1:20PM

MTB, thanks. Another example is the effect of the Great Society and other reforms on many of our black families. It has destroyed them, sent the fathers off so the mothers could collect welfare, and given us generations of lost black youths.

So sad.

davelnaf| 3.24.10 @ 10:30AM

Democrats have expanding the Federal government in their DNA, which is a genetic disease Obamacare will never cure.

martin j smith| 3.24.10 @ 10:31AM

The one and only goal is to win elections period.
Do everything possible to do so that is legal.
It is helpful to be overly optimistic or pessimistic at this stage.
For those who live especially in red or purple states, focus should be on get out the vote, stop voting fraud. Do what you can in Blue states --Tet, Look at NJ and Mass. who knew ?

Nick| 3.24.10 @ 10:41AM

To quote the Earp party as they confronted the lawless cowboys outside the OK Corral: "You sons of bitches have been looking for a fight and now you can have it".
This needs to be the conservative/Tea Party motto from here on out. No more talk- these liars and cowards on the Left want a war, we're going to bring it to them. But talk is cheap, folks. We have to follow through, we have to donate every last cent in our respective areas to guarantee the removal of every Democrat parasite that lives in our Congress. My congressman, CARNEY, is a (politically) dead man walking. He is finished and our area is going to ensure that. Once we achieve our goal, vigilance will be the key. We can never again allow our country to be overcome by such a group of anti-American haters as currently exists. The time for talk is over- let's get to it, brothers and sisters.

megapotamus | 3.24.10 @ 8:11PM

Word.

blackwatch| 3.24.10 @ 8:55PM

Post early post often--my new motto!

civil disobedience now. ON 04/15/2010 we should band together and arrest everyone who voted for this bill. whether they are in DC or in their district we should place them under citizen's arrest with no less than 500 persons in attendence doing a mass arrest of one scum bag congress person and their entire staff too. Place then in irons for crimes against the constitutuion and parade them throught the streets to the local police station. turn them over to the local police. cameras rolling the whole time.

Be prepared to be arrested your self--all 500+ of you. Demand a trial by your peers if the charges are not dropped. do something about this travesty--show others that we are alarmed at this criminal behavior. Taking our freedoms one by one is still a crime--a slow motion crime--but a crime never the less.

then in the fall at 4-3-2-1 days before the election repeat the above process at each and every campaign stop. Riducle and embarass them.

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Littlewoman| 3.24.10 @ 11:08AM

people are very angry about this. They will not forget what DC did to overreached into our lives. We talked to 7 Obumer's voters (independents)yesterday and explained what really in the HC and they were shocked. These are the people that make decent money and will be affect by this HC. They said how could this happened?? like hello people!! Here is the link that MSN put together after the passage of the HC. 67.4% 782,300 are angry of this passage. ONLY 24.5% ARE HAPPY. now that is a poll!!! close to a million people participated in the poll not 1000+ like cnn, fox and so on. NO ONE WILL FORGET THIS DEM!!

littlewoman| 3.24.10 @ 11:10AM

oops here is the link:

http://politics.newsvine.com/_.....=550#short comment

Pete| 3.24.10 @ 11:24AM

One thing you have to realize is that Democrats don't care what you think. They don't even care what their Democratic supporters think. They are progressive radicals who think, nay know, that they are smarter and better in every way than their subjects, be they D or R. They are busy rigging the entire system going forward so they never have to do a real day of work in their lives - nor will their entitled children have to. Government this big and powerful will eventually turn society: even the high achievers will soon figure out that currying favor with politicians is a more lucrative undertaking than actually business. And ACORN is fully funded and operating behind the scenes to make sure no real change can occur via free elections. Unless the judicial branch shows it has a pair and stands up for the constitution in the face of threats on their lives and the lives of their loved ones, our last option will be armed revolt.

MattZ| 3.24.10 @ 11:41AM

If you all keep believing that the majority of the electorate will hate the opportunity to access health care, then right-wing is destined to be relegated to minority status.

Fortunately, this "pre-existing condition" will at least be covered, now that the health care bill has passed.
MZ

Occam's Tool| 3.24.10 @ 1:35PM

The majority of the electorate will hate the rationing that this bill will create----a rationing MUCH worse than managed care. Go to the New Zealand Herald website and look up District Health Boards. I worked in one. I know.

LC| 3.24.10 @ 1:42PM

WHAT? Let's do the math: 300 Million Americans. Even using the hyperinflated 30 Million Uninsured (Bullsh!t), that's only 10%. That means 90% ALREADY had 'opportunity to access healthcare! Gee, there's a good reason to scrap the best medical delivery system in the world! Not!

Deborah D | 3.24.10 @ 2:04PM

According the National Review, 7 of the top 10 benefits aren't benefits at all. You can clue yourself in here: http://healthcare.nationalrevi.....ljNzE2M2Y=

MTB| 3.24.10 @ 3:00PM

Dumba$$! The majority of the electorate already HAD access to health care. The majority of the electorate opposed this bill because it was a complete dismantling and control of the best health care system in the world. The only group destined to "minority status" are you dems. In fact, I'm hoping that one day, your party will not just be a minority, but extinct. I'd love to see a picture of Obama, Pelosi and Reid in a museum some day and show my grandchildren what a democrat used to look like. Now, that would be fun!

CitizenCain| 3.24.10 @ 11:41AM

What do 21 March 2010 and 7 December 1941 have in common? The United States of America was attacked by an external enemy. War was declared on the USA. Patriots rallied then to defeat the enemy and we will do so again.
The liberals' next effort has already begun - allowing millions of illegal aliens to become citizens and give them YOUR hard earned tax money.
Double your efforts - Protect your money from the Tax Beast; Remove ALL liberals from leadership positions; hold a Constitutional Convention; Take the gloves off. War is Hell. Make them feel it.
MILITARY POSTERS: THANK YOU FOR OUR FREEDOM.

MTB| 3.24.10 @ 3:04PM

This whole idea of amnesty for ILLEGAL aliens is BS! It slaps the collective faces of all those who worked hard and entered this country legally. Don't give the illegals amnesty! Give them the boot and tell them to come back when they've done it right! This is nothing more than a ploy to increase the dem voter rolls.

CitizenCain| 3.24.10 @ 11:45AM

MattZ at 11:41 AM. The MAJORITY of people HAD health care access before 3/21 - NO LONGER. 50% of practicing physicians will get out of the business now. WHO YA' GONNA CALL? GHOSTBUSTERS?

NorthererWarrior| 3.24.10 @ 11:53AM

I was a janitor for years while I was learning to be a consultant. There was no shame in it, I learned a lot, including humility and patience. Now I am a teacher. I WILL find a way to refuse my money to fat assed lazy socialists who think they have a right to free ANYTHING

McRoy| 3.24.10 @ 11:57AM

I think I have the WAY. If ALL of us, as much as we can, convert to CASH and BARTER we can starve the socialist beast into submission. Join underground groups and infiltrate them the way they have done us; create discord and envy in their ranks. Rake their garbage for incriminating evidence against them. Socialists are the enemy, and must from now on be treated that way. That is all.

blackwatch| 3.24.10 @ 8:59PM

Now I am one of the annoying posters who keeps copying themselves throughout the thread. God they are soooo tedious. Okay I quit for today:

civil disobedience now. ON 04/15/2010 we should band together and arrest everyone who voted for this bill. whether they are in DC or in their district we should place them under citizen's arrest with no less than 500 persons in attendence doing a mass arrest of one scum bag congress person and their entire staff too. Place then in irons for crimes against the constitutuion and parade them throught the streets to the local police station. turn them over to the local police. cameras rolling the whole time.

Be prepared to be arrested your self--all 500+ of you. Demand a trial by your peers if the charges are not dropped. do something about this travesty--show others that we are alarmed at this criminal behavior. Taking our freedoms one by one is still a crime--a slow motion crime--but a crime never the less.

then in the fall at 4-3-2-1 days before the election repeat the above process at each and every campaign stop. Riducle and embarass them.

Cliff Farris| 3.25.10 @ 1:26PM

You are right on. I understand and believe roughly 15 percent of our economy is bartered and under the radar now.

I am actively developing a way to make a living this way now.

This is the way for much of the world. I imagine the number in Haiti is 75 to 85 percent. We will move in that direction.

I believe we will need to set up medical care cooperatives under the personal care of a Physician and couple of nurses. Only members can participate. Only cash will be paid. No "insurance" involved. The group may have to travel to a foreign location to conduct business several times a year. I have already suggested this to my Doctor of 34 years. He did not say no.

Thoughts?

NJK| 3.24.10 @ 11:57AM

They can go straight to hell, from where they came from. WE WILL NEVER, NEVER FORGET THEM SPITTING ON OUR TREASURED DOCUMENT, LIKE SOME ENEMY THAT INVADED OUR SHORES!

Craig| 3.24.10 @ 12:02PM

My PPO ENT - a USC fellow - only about 46 years old - retired from medicine. He saw this coming two years ago, got out - medicare was killing his business. He consults now. But remember - part of the Leftist plan is to bring in THOUSANDS of East Indians, Mexican, Phillipino and Asian doctors, their families, their extended families to take their place - you realize this, don't you. Shut down the border with steel and wire. Stop all immigration from third world countries; English only admission, with $100, 000 in the bank, IQ's above 120. No relatives allowed. No more mister nice guy, folks, the game is ON!

Susan Grant| 3.24.10 @ 12:17PM

I keep thinking back to to the Big Zero's statement that the healthcare fraud bill will create JOBS. WRONG!!!! The Big Zero and his commie buddies are LYING about the unemployment rate. They are 'averaging' the nation numbers to get to 9.7, but if you look at individual states some are in the high teens, 14, 16, 17, even 18 percent. Is it too much to ask of this administration TO STOP WITH THE LIES???? i SUPPOSE IT IS TOO MUCH TO ASK OUT OF OUR LIAR-IN-CHIEF since that is his only talent unless of course you take into account his ability to read a teleprompter, other than that ZERO!

Crafty Bernardo| 3.24.10 @ 12:24PM

Selective statistics... nicely done. The one "constant" that the author's neglected to mention is that, of the 53% "opposed" to this bill, consistently 15% amogst that total are opposed not because they want to stop the bill, but because it DOESN'T GO FAR ENOUGH.

THAT'S why the polling on this bill has immediately flip-flopped post-passage. Because all those people who were "against" this bill mentally because they were holding out for a single-payer system are still happy that the bill that we got was passed... therefore, you will see roughly a 60-40 for/against polling on this bill between now and election day. Democratic politicians have known this all along because they've been assailed from their left by constituents "opposed" to the bill because it falls short, not because they want the status quo.

The author knows this, but neglects to mention it. How convenient. Wilful ignorance is bliss, I guess.

Tony V | 3.24.10 @ 12:46PM

The American people were STUPACKED by Democrats, now its time to make the Democrats pay, the war isn't over, it's just started.

Controlled burn| 3.24.10 @ 12:48PM

Let's keep this in mind also. It is best to focus on what needs to be done and not get distracted by stupid ideas that are just anger-venting. Our wrath should lead us to finding, vetting, and installing the best Republicans. It should lead us to think of workable strategies and tactics to oppose Obamacare. And finally, it should lead us to think about what all needs to be rolled back or abolished entirely over the coming years. Our wrath should not lead us toward distracting, wacky cult movements like term limits, or laws that make Congressmen non-exempt from Obamacare, or other laws or Constitutional amendments that are symbolic of our anger but are irrelevant to our mission of meaningfully rolling back the state. These are a waste of valuable effort. We should be level-headed. We needs substance, not symbols. That is how we will win.

melvin polatnick| 3.24.10 @ 12:52PM

It is true that the costs of Social Security and Medicare are sky rocketing but it poses no problem for Uncle Sam. Large increases in the payroll tax will keep the checks flowing and medical expenses paid for older Americans. It also would increase productivity, a hungry worker is a better employee. Overpaid workers are obese, spoiled, and need their fat trimmed.

Oldefarte| 3.24.10 @ 12:55PM

As Robert correctly states, SEVEN MONTHS IS A LONG TIME IN POLITICS; but not if American taxpayers-voters remain focused upon what they all should now be painfully aware of that is being done to them by these liberal Democrats. Tea party activities, conservative editorials, voter polls,etc are great and helpful; but the one and only issue is November 2010+. Taxpayer-voters MUST go to the polls beginning in November and vote AGAINST any/all politicians who were even remotely involved in this socialist creeping of wealth-redistribution [be they Democrats or Republicans]. If they don't vote for substantial CHANGE, all of the protesting, marching, moaning, groaning, editorials, polls,etc will not mean a thing; and these liberals and their bed-mates will continue to extract the contents from your collective wallets!!!!!!

Deborah D | 3.24.10 @ 2:13PM

Amen. Do your research on your primary candidates first! Then vote and get out the vote.

CMD in Texas| 3.24.10 @ 1:15PM

Stay the course...remember what the House and Obama did to us in March 2010 by voting them all out in November of 2010 and 2012. As long as The American Spectator and other "real" media outlets continue to remind the voting public how our government ignores us, then we will NOT forget. We will vote for only those candidates who listen to the will of the people and NOT to those who want more entitlements.

psutopgun| 3.24.10 @ 1:24PM

We will not forget..not in 2010..not in 2012...not ever....WE THE PEOPLE ARE COMING.

mcbeak| 3.24.10 @ 1:43PM

Code: the abomination that is obummercare is truly horrible and, if not repealed piece by piece, will destroy our health system, not to mention the republic.

However, what you linked to is a CBO study report giving the king-messiah options to consider. So far, and I don't hold much hope here, TFL is not affected by the unconstitutional manure pile that Qween pelosi and Duke reid presented to the kool-aid monarch.

I am sure that sooner or later (probably sooner) that TFL will be gutted for us veterans since we aren't really needed anymore.

Akaky | 3.24.10 @ 1:48PM

"Unpopular as a legislative proposal, ObamaCare will be enthusiastically embraced by voters, we are assured by Democrats and their media friends, now that it is a fait accompli. "

Yup, just the same way Prohibition was.

keyboard jockey | 3.24.10 @ 2:18PM

I don't think this Bill will survive all the Constitutional Challenges. What happens then? I have not read anything addressing the coming entitlement waves coming toward our Budget. When everyone wakes up from this Unicorn Utopia they are going to be looking around for answers solutions....will the Republicans be ready?

Mimi| 3.24.10 @ 2:20PM

HEH, CRAFTY B. Post signing polls are running 37-39% in favor of passage. You are wrong on your'e analogy. By the way, whats with JOE BIDEN? Quote:"A {bleeping BIG DEAL}? Yes to us it is a big deal! TO JOE: Joey, Joey our good boy irish-catholic. What happened to you? We alway's thought you were an american. What's this commie, take it over stuff you know HC and all that. You better start changing Joey, and get in line with us the AMERICAN'S. Your boss may quit any time nowdue to: STRESS , which is related to being in over hishead. Joey do you know we may need you to run things so bone up on your patrotism. We do 'nt give a (BLEEP) about bleeping , we want you back with us, not against!

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David | 3.24.10 @ 3:04PM

I wish I could be as optimistic as the author of this column, but I can't be. If in the middle of this health care debate, the average American hasn't been made aware that the Premier of Canada came to Miami last month to have open heart surgery, I don't see how repubs can get out any message.

When criticized by Canadians for coming to America for the surgery he responded: "It is my heart, my health, and my decision. I did not give up my right to get the best health care possible when I became a politician." He further said: "If I had the surgery in Canada, I would have been criticized for jumping to the front of the line."

Every American should be aware of that story, but few are. It says it all about government-run medical care. We know the dems and the MSM don't want the story repeated, and that is why the repubs should have been blasting it from the rooftops since he had the surgery. They are inept and incompetent and don't realize the dems are fighting a war against America.

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cindy graham| 3.24.10 @ 3:18PM

We need people like Paul Ryan going through this monstrosity and revealing the horrors and then offering real, workable solutions. Get down to specifics and the impact it would have.

bro| 3.24.10 @ 4:11PM

The author and the people who commented - are you guys serious??!!! Have you been living in a cave or something. Have you ever tried purchasing health insurance with pre-existing conditions. Only a moron can criticize this bill.

Not My "bro"| 3.24.10 @ 4:23PM

Hey "bro",

The Dems forgot to include the "pre-existing" condition thingy for kids.

I'm sure Marcel the poster-boy will be happy!

Moron.

bro| 3.24.10 @ 4:27PM

Oh! so because of that the entire bill should be scrapped?? Looks like you didn't get your brain meds in time - in your state-of the-art world class medical system.

megapotamus | 3.24.10 @ 8:16PM

Well dumbass, no this is not a state of the art world class medical system. It is an American class world-beating medical system. It was built in freedom and its technological advances are dragging the rest of the world with commie medicine into the future, or it was until Obama came along and if you don't know that you don't know much, and you don't. O-care is the end of global medical progress. Why? Because it outlaws medical profits as has already happened in the rest of the tired, beleagured globe. America leads the world in medical advancements and you sentence countless billions to suffer and die if you extinguish it for you pathetic neurosis. Fuck off, die and go straight to hell you commie puke.

Blackwatch| 3.24.10 @ 9:07PM

Very WELL SAID.

especially like your signature ending line :

"Fuck off, die and go straight to hell you commie puke."

Brilliant.

Visceral Rebellion| 3.24.10 @ 6:11PM

You're ignorant or intentionally lying. The HIPAA law from 1996 specifically limits preexisting exclusions from group plans to twelve months. If you had insurance in the twelve months prior to the application for new insurance, the twelve month waiting period is reduced by the number of months you had insurance through the old policy. Therefore, if you go from one job with In. company A to a new job with Ins Co B, THERE IS NO PREEXISTING EXCLUSION.

Idiot.

But being a democrat, you wouldn't have a clue about REALITY. You want what you want and are happy to have the government force others who actually worked for what they have to hand it over for you.

Which makes you not only ignorant/liar, but a LOSER as well.

Bruce | 3.24.10 @ 10:15PM

Moron. based on your statement, the next target for donks should be the life insurance industry. I was a cop for 25 years. Due to a number of serious physical problems from line of duty events I was forced to retire on disability. I could not buy life insurance for ANY amount of money to secure my families future should anything happen to me. Then I had a series of heart attacks. Ever try to buy life insurance with something like that on your health records? So what should I have done - cried to Uncle Sam that nobody would sell poor little me life insurance - you need to regulate it!?

Deal with it and buy your damned insurance BEFORE you have this "pre-existing condition." Unless of course the condition is an IQ below 70 - which would be a requirement for one to not understand the scope of this ruinous bill. They trumpet this bill as a followup to Medicaid/Medicare as a success story. Really?

6 months ago my insurance carrier was GHI/BCBS. As a diabetic, my plan covered my test strips with a copay of $15 for a 90 day supply enough to test 6 times a day (before and after 3 meals, as required). 5 months ago I went on SS Disability. Now I can only get enough strips for 1 test a day - virtually useless as a medical tool, ans the copay is $30 for 1/3rd the amount of strips. Wow - that's a big improvement, eh! Now Medicare will be cut by 2 TRILLION dollars over the next 20 years. Wonder what my coverage would be if I lived that long. So as a result I cannot afford to test at all anymore and have to trust myself to take care what I eat.

Akaky| 3.24.10 @ 4:15PM

Hey bro, have you ever tried to buy something when you knew there was no way you could pay for it? Only a moron can support this bill.

bro| 3.24.10 @ 4:23PM

yeah sure akaky - good luck paying for something which has been priced out of reach of 90% Americans. A simple C-section costs 30 grand in America. You have been completely brainwashed by the tea party idiots.

megapotamus | 3.24.10 @ 8:21PM

Quite true. Why? Well, it is because the greatest Democratic party contributors, the plaintiff bar, has booked and banked grillions in "punative" damages that have bought boats and Jags aplenty but have not improved or provided healthcare for one single Americans. But you don't care about that, do you? As long as the John Edwards of this world can live in mansions and tell you how wonderful you are, to hell with the sweating, screaming woman trying to deliver another decent American citizen. It would be better if he was aborted before that, right? Right, you baby-killing scum of a commie? Vermin. Your hour is near. You know it, don't you?

Bruce | 3.24.10 @ 10:20PM

Get serious, moron. I don't know of a single insurance plan (any physicians here can probably confirm) that doesn't treat a C-section as a "medical necessity" 100%. If some of the liberal arm candy elites want to have a C-section so they don't mar their oh-so-perfectly toned body with a scar ... let them pay 30 grand for it themselves.

David| 3.24.10 @ 4:25PM

Hey bro, just how long do you think insurance companies will be able to stay in business if people wait until they are sick to buy insurance and start paying premiums? If that is the mandate why would any healthy person continue paying premiums if he can drop his insurance, and then purchase it again when he gets sick. The whole idea is make insurance companies get out of the health insurance business. Then we'll all be forced into a government-run scheme.

bro| 3.24.10 @ 4:30PM

And the problem with that is????
The insurance companies are a part of the problem right now. They have to adapt, if they cannot they should perish, just like the people with pre-existing conditions.

Nick| 3.24.10 @ 4:36PM

It was stinking libs like you, bro-ham, who destroyed our medical industry.

FDR, LBJ, "The Swimmer" Kennedy, Shrillary the Hut, and numerous decmocrat congresses have wrecked the medical system in this great country for the past 60+ years.

And you have the gall to blame the insurance industry?

Go educate yourself, brainiac.

bro| 3.24.10 @ 4:47PM

I cannot afford education in this stinking country, it will need an education reform. I hope Obama has that on his TODO list.

megapotamus | 3.24.10 @ 8:23PM

Puke, you don't need me to install more floors to pay for your pathetic attempt at education. Try a library. Scum like you are bleeding this nation and benefit not at all from the enterprise because you are without virtue, parasitic and aspire to live off the labor of honest Americans. You should jump off a bridge to fight global warming and local socialization. Now.

Bruce | 3.24.10 @ 10:23PM

"Stinking country" you say? Because the country won't pay your way so you can sit on your lazy ass and not pay your own way like the majority of us did? Here's a clue ... don't like this "stinking country", get the fuck out.

bro| 3.25.10 @ 1:17AM

Good luck getting rid of me dude, conservatives like you are on the way out. Too bad, rich college educated morons like you and other here, haven't yet figured out what's going on. Anyway it's too late now..

sestamibi| 3.24.10 @ 4:32PM

I've got a great idea! If you are unemployed and have Tea Party sympathies, apply for one of those 16,500 IRS agent jobs and then sabotage the program internally. Seriously.

bro| 3.24.10 @ 4:34PM

yeah that should work.. lol!
Is you cannot get into IRS, just rent a plan and ram it into the IRS headquaters. Like the moron who did it Texas.

Nick| 3.24.10 @ 4:38PM

That "moron" was a bitter, democrat twit, like yourself.

bro| 3.24.10 @ 4:41PM

That doesn't mean an oblivious republican moron like you cannot do that. Just try it, it might work for you too.

Nick| 3.24.10 @ 4:46PM

Sure, bro-ham.
Just tell me where I can rent a "plan"(sic) to ram into the IRS HEADQUARTERS!, Einstein?

Go back to playing HALO, sonny.

bro| 3.24.10 @ 4:48PM

How many do you want??

Nick| 3.24.10 @ 4:58PM

How many what?

Rocks, crack-head?

This is the liberal mind at work, folks.

Mimi| 3.24.10 @ 5:02PM

BRO, You don't get it man. This bill has zero to do with healthcare. It is about "CONTROL OF OUR LIVES" as said by Rep. John Dingle today. It is about our liberty and freedom and individual rights. It is about taking the nation toward socialism and destroying our economy. It is not the american way and will destroy us. They took one of our :PROBLEMS" and with lies, and bribes brought us to this. Healthcare should havebeen a bipartisan 3 page event including the list of things that are known to everyone to need correction. Some of the laws and changes at NO cost!

Scott| 3.24.10 @ 5:30PM

One major problem in your polling logic is you aren't looking at the crosstabs when they are available. The CNN poll, whose numbers matched the Rasmuessen poll, asked WHY people opposed. 13% of the 52% opposed beacause the bill wasn't liberal enough.

I'm not a supporter of Obamacare. What I am saying is to be leery of cherry picking data to fit our own viewpoints.

megapotamus | 3.24.10 @ 8:26PM

A wise cautionary note.

Pat Spooner| 3.24.10 @ 5:51PM

God bless anyone who opposes this terrible legislation - my wife and I are examples of folks who have worked our butts off from the humblest of beginnings in rural Maine to the point where we have amassed a net worth sufficient to allow us to retire at our currnet ages of 55 and 51 respectively. And we would have managed well on our own with or without social security and medicare.

We worked hard to EARN an education, paid back our college loans and we scacrificed our time and energy to take on ever increasing job responsibilities, to travel almost daily to support the compnaies that we worked for and we were looking to implement our plan to purchase a retirement home.

That plan is being aggressively destroyed by the democrat party and this president. They will not stop their attack on working Americans and the Amercian Dream until they have stolen evreything that they can from every hardworking American. Next they will begin to tax our accumulated savings directly or through the imposition of a value added tax.

We can only hope and pray that legal prespectives regarding the illegality of this legisation are proven correct and upheld quickly although we suspect that obama will a way to delay litigation indefiently - playing the waiting game until people final give up and give in.

lmao| 3.24.10 @ 6:01PM

Old fart Dingle should retire!! That old bastard has been wanting gov't run health since 1957 well I hope he is happy now!!!! We won't forget. Dude, Where the hell is my Country?? vote those crooked bastards out in 2010& 2012. They should all be tried for treason and bribery and throw in to prison!!

Nick| 3.24.10 @ 6:05PM

Poetic justice would be if Dingle became a victim of his beloved ObamaCare, and got denied medical service in the future.

Visceral Rebellion| 3.24.10 @ 6:14PM

Look at the bright side--if this obscenity isn't struck down by the courts, we can use it to outlaw homosexual sex--VERY risky behavior--and out-of-wedlock sex, all in the name of "lowering costs."

That would be fun.

visual| 3.24.10 @ 10:08PM

Poetic justice would be if Dingle became a victim of his beloved ObamaCare, and got denied medical service in the future.

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Ann| 3.24.10 @ 7:30PM

Reading your posts gives me hope that we can rise above this. We can take action to get our country back. I pray Obamacare will be overturned in court - but if not - we need to be vigilant at voting time. I plan on volunteering for candidates, for the first time in my life, to get these a*holes out of Congress.

We will take our healthcare system back - I don't think the avg. citizen will forget or back down on this. I think we should try to take the schools back (are they really talking about 4 day school weeks?) as well. How about privatizing the post office. Govt run programs don't work. Too much bureaucracy, too many pensions, too many protected jobs.

Scott| 3.25.10 @ 4:24PM

The only applicable part of Obamacare that could be overturned is the individual mandate, which they will find another way to implement. The taxes and spending are not applicable to a legal challenge.

chas| 3.24.10 @ 8:53PM

I enjoy hearing you clowns after defeat almost as much as I enjoyed hearing your bitching after your first defeat (the presidential election). You've become a party of "pipe" dreamers. At least try to hold on to a sliver of the dignity of the republican party of the 90s. Get a clue you out-of-touch perpetual losers. Looking forward to the bitching you'll be spouting after your further defeat in Nov. Caio!

bob s| 3.25.10 @ 1:14PM

chas... bit of a wanker, aren't you?

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Yosemeti Sam| 3.25.10 @ 4:47AM

If I may digress - where is that Mao Zedong White
House Christmas tree ornament?

Andrew P| 3.25.10 @ 6:27AM

Do not underestimate the Democrats. The healthcare industry benefits fabulously from this law, and will spend billions to protect its hard-won gains. The SCOTUS decision on corporate campaign contributions will also help the Democrats tremendously. I think we will be amazed at the DNC, DCCC, and DSCC's turnout operations this November. With billions in health industry funding, they will probably be better than they were in the last presidental year.

Tenn Slim| 3.25.10 @ 8:51AM

Opine:
Andrew P has the correct view here. Don't underestimate the Dems...
We, the Conservative Folks, the USA Electorate, have a very rough slog ahead. Stimulus bill failures, HC ornerous impositions, High Unemployment numbers, all will become lost in the storms of the Dems Rhetoric.
SO. I value the SunTzu options.
1. Know the Dems, read thier White papers, analyze the intricate details of their meanderings, for within these lies the templates for their tactics.
2. Never be blindsided, watch your flanks. Keep 3 steps ahead of the Dems tactics, at all times.
3. Skirmish ahead of the game. Posts on the Net, Comments on the Net get out there far faster than traditional news outlets. Our Message should be first at all times
bt
These are but a few of the tactics the upcoming Tough Slog will employ. We have a Conservative Front to manage, just as the Left has mulitple occurring Fronts in play. Defense is not our game. Offense, throw to the Wide Receiver, Run Briggs up the middle.
Recall the days of NAM. NVA Fronts abounded. VC Cells abounded. We can and will learn from History.
We Will Prevail
Semper Fi
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Richard| 3.25.10 @ 11:34AM

Here is a personal reflection that I have been aching to relate: I'm going to be 63 in May and am operating under the dictates of cancer (now in remission) and progressive heart disease, so I realistically can view my future within certain defined perameters. I look back at what's happened to this country in my lifetime and I remember when I first committed to political activism. It was in the '64 Goldwater/Johnson contest, and I became electrified by the well-defined and conflicting values of the candidates. (Only one election earlier, I recall, there was virtually no difference between the parties, Kennedy actually being more fiscally conservative than Nixon. That was, for all intents and purposes, a personality contest.) I became the firebrand for the Young Republicans in high school, organizing debates and visits to homerooms and social studies classes. I went down to see Goldwater when he came to speak in our city and actually got to shake his hand. I saw Johnson as the harbinger of a totalitarian welfare state that once begun would inevitably ride the wave of populism to the tragedy and regret of the nation. Most people thought I was grossly over-reacting and the high school vote was, predictably, a mirror-image of the national vote. (My tag-line under the picture in the senior class year-book was "Oh, those Nov.2 blues.") But I saw then, presciently (as it now turns out), that Johnson, the granddaddy of modern leftism, was about to begin something under the title of The Great Society, that would, once begun, evolve into a "sea-change" for this country of an all-consuming welfare mentality demanding "entitlements' without end. I became of voting age for the '68 Nixon/Humphrey campaign and have voted in every election since: national, state, local and municipal. In all of those years I have never voted for a Democrat, in any capacity, whatsoever and now I feel a certain sad vindication of my strident allegiance in the face of the guffaws and tongue-clucking and the wry smiles accompanying the knowing head shakes. I see the Democrat Party, and have for decades, as "the enemy within". What has happened in the last fourteen months has affirmed and confirmed my worst fears that were begun back in the mid-60's. This party of despicable quislings is the enemy of the people, the enemy of any American who believes in the principles of the Founding Fathers. The lamentable tragedy is that it was all so predictable: forty-five years in the modern making. Everything this contemptible man is doing has been there, plainly to see, since he came on the political scene. I am flabergasted that people can now be surprised at the realization of the disaster that announced itself coming, so loudly and for such a long time. Rush Limbaugh said, the other day, that we must view this party and anyone who belongs to it, as the enemy. There are no moderate Democrats. Anyone with that "d" after their name is the enemy and must be defeated and, if at all possible, destroyed as a viable political force in the future. I had an uncle who fought and was wounded on Iwo. He was an active member of the V.F.W. for years and loved this country deeply. I'm glad he isn't here now to see this wholesale destruction of the country. We have whole segments of our poplulation who are throwing away our freedoms with both hands, to rampaging liberalism. It makes me weep.

Nick| 3.25.10 @ 11:58AM

Richard,

Excellent post, sir!

And, I pray your cancer stays in remission.

EVERYONE, READ RICHARD'S COMMENT!!

scott| 3.25.10 @ 4:22PM

Sorry, though I believe in your political philosophy, I do not prescribe to your belief that Dems are our enemies. I have family members that I love dearly, that are ardent Obama supportes. We have hearty debates, and try to convince each other to come to our way of thinking, but they are not my "enemies".

This is sick, twisted and eventually depressing way to look at the political landscape in this country. There are 300million+ people in this country, and the same number of different political philosophies. You're view of politics is exactly what is wrong with the platform of the right, and why only 25% of this country indentifies as Republican anymore.

Conservatives must actively engage our fellow citizens in healthy debate, armed with a depth of facts and knowledge, and policy solutions that actually work.

Nick| 3.25.10 @ 6:22PM

Are you the same "scott" who mooched off the taxpayers with unemployment?

And then cried because Senator Bunning was holding it up?

Margie| 3.25.10 @ 8:45PM

You're an idiot. And a liar to boot.
Buzz off, creep.
And now, I will refute your despicable lies.
First, YES~ Democrats are our political enemies. They sympathize (and far worse) with the terrorists, blame America FOR terrorism, and then lie about it.
They promote (and forcibly) and agree with Socialist policies for our country.
They are criminals who do not have to go by the same laws that we do, ie. Giethner et al.
I could go on but that gives you the basic picture.

Secondly, You are the sick, twisted and presently depressing one here. That you could possibly react in such a way toward Richard is mind boggling and disgusting, actually.

And last but not least~ What is wrong with the "platform of the Right" is precisely your attitude. One of mealy-mouthed BS. If the Right stood more firmly on it's principles and voiced the truth more often and with true honor and dignity just as Richard has, we'd be in a lot better shape. He just DID "actively engage his fellow citizens in a healthy debate. armed with a depth of facts and knowledge." The policy solutions will come naturally. In fact, I would like to nominate Richard for President of the United States, as he would make one an excellent one for sure, with all of the requirements you mentioned.

You are a FRAUD!
Thank you, and good night.

David| 3.25.10 @ 12:28PM

Andrew P, please clarify for me/us: Did you mean the healthcare industry as you stated or health "insurance" industry?

Whichever one you meant please explain because I don't see how either gets ahead. I'm not aware of any entity that is better off when government is involved.

The bill says that payments to doctors and hospitals will be cut by 21% when they treat Medicare and Medicaid patients. Fully one-third of doctors plan to stop practicing medicine or retire early when this new system gets into full swing. And at a time when we will be needing more doctors, not fewer.

If you meant insurance companies, I don't see how they stay in business when they have to cover people with pre-existing conditions and can't charge higher premiums than anyone else pays. Any smart person who is healthy now and has insurance should just cancel their policies, wait until they get sick, and then force the companies to insure them again.

So please educate me if I am missing something.

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