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The Fight Will Go On

By Philip Klein on 3.22.10 @ 6:10AM

The first battle over Obamacare has been lost. But the struggle over the future of the nation’s health care system continues.

Whatever it might mean for Democrats in November, last night represented one of the biggest victories in the history of American liberalism.

During his campaign, President Obama made clear that he wanted to be a transformative liberal leader who “changed the trajectory of America.” Once he signs the comprehensive health care bill into law this week, Obama will deliver on that promise, and complete the third major wave of entitlement expansion in America.

Now it’s up to conservatives to make sure that the victory is short-lived.

Let’s be under no illusions. There’s a reason why the battle over this health care bill dragged on for so long and was so bitterly fought. Once a law is enacted that delivers benefits to a given constituency, it becomes very hard to overturn. Not even the conservative icon Ronald Reagan, for instance, was willing to lay a finger on the big box entitlement programs of Medicare and Social Security.

But with that said, there are a number of things unique to Obamacare that make it vulnerable.

While Social Security and Medicare passed Congress with large majorities in both chambers, Obamacare passed without a single Republican vote — and with 34 defections among House Democrats. The process was tainted by legislative maneuvers and back room deals, and rammed through in the face of overwhelming public opposition.

Furthermore, because Democrats had to make the legislation appear cheaper over the Congressional Budget Office’s ten-year budget window, they delayed the bulk of the benefits until 2014, while many of the unpopular aspects of the legislation, such as the huge tax increases, kick in almost immediately.

In the immediate term, no matter what the odds of success, every legal avenue must be exhausted to challenge any and all provisions that have a chance of being overturned in the courts. At the same time, conservatives must be pushing Republican candidates to pledge to work not just to repeal certain aspects of the bill, but, to borrow a line from Jaws, to go after the head, the tail, the whole damn thing. (Sen. Jim DeMint has already announced that this week he would offer a bill to do just that.)

If efforts to repeal or overturn Obamacare fail, then the battle will have to enter the next stage. At some point after it is implemented — whether this is five years or 10 years from now, there will be another major health care debate. Despite President Obama’s promises, premiums will still be skyrocketing and the spiraling cost of health care will be putting a strain on individuals, businesses and the federal government.

When that day comes, liberals will argue that the reason why all of those problems exist is that Obamacare 1.0 didn’t go far enough. They’ll say that the government needs to spend more money on subsidies, place more regulations on insurance companies, and introduce a public option to drive down costs — or maybe even go the single-payer route altogether. Conservatives cannot be in a position to lose that argument.

If Obamacare is fully enacted, then conservatives should make sure that Democrats are held accountable for the problems with the health care system. The rising premiums should be blamed on the burdensome regulations that force individuals to purchase the amount of insurance that the federal government dictates they must have, rather than the type that they freely choose. The out of control health care spending should be blamed on the reality that when the government is picking up the tab for something, people tend to spend more. The crushing deficits we’ll be facing should be blamed on the accounting tricks Democrats used to hide the true cost of their proposals.

When Americans have to undergo long wait times in doctors offices, when individuals have to file their tax returns each year and present proof of government-approved insurance or pay more taxes, when the private sector has to digest a raft of new taxes and mandates, they’ll be more open to hearing conservative alternatives. Keep in mind that this will all be happening within the broader context of the entitlement crisis, with Social Security and Medicare running deficits, and further reinforcing the unaffordable cost of massive government.

In the meantime, conservatives should continue to make the affirmative case that the only way to truly bring down costs and improve quality of care is to have a system that is built around individual consumers making their own choices about how to spend their own money, not one in which health care dollars are controlled by employers and the government.

Obamacare, no doubt, puts America on the road to government-run health care. But as long as there’s still a prospect of changing course, conservatives should never stop fighting.

topics:
Health Care, Conservatism, Obamacare

About the Author

Philip Klein is The American Spectator’s Washington correspondent. You can follow him on Twitter at: http://twitter.com/Philipaklein

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ggoblue| 3.22.10 @ 6:38AM

225 days till mid term.

Obama is a Winner!| 3.22.10 @ 8:06AM

Universal Health Care at Last! Thank God! Please join me in singing

"Hallelujah thine the glory,
Revive us again . . ."

Brian Mc| 3.22.10 @ 8:23AM

Hey, look everybody; the godless praising the 'powers that be'.

You can put your faith wherever you want, but for me, I will serve the Lord. "Give me Liberty, or give me death".

Melvin| 3.22.10 @ 8:55AM

Universal Health Care is something to rejoice about as long as the rationing doesn't apply to you.
I seriously doubt that you would be spouting Hosannas if the nurse practitioner would tell you, "I'm sorry but you don't qualify for this life saving treatment."

Eric Cartman| 3.22.10 @ 9:07AM

The Democrats broke it, they will own it.

Lowry Hill| 3.22.10 @ 9:23AM

"Red dawn" (1984)

ann| 3.22.10 @ 10:39AM

If Obamacare is so good, why are all the wealthy politicians and their families exempt from it. This will not affect the rich because if their insurance turns down a claim for them of a family member they will be able to afford to pay out of pocket as will all the democrats who voted for this bill. I will be convinced that this health care bill is good when dabama and all his cronies are subjected to the same punishment as the rest of the american people.

L. Banks| 3.22.10 @ 11:00AM

God had nothing to do with this...and if you think you are getting universal health care, think again. The US is in debt and that debt is growing each day. Currently we are unable to balance a one year budget since our expenses outweigh our intake. How can we now afford this bill? The only way is to increase taxes on everyone. There are many people who are so disgusted they will not work so no income from them. The number of retirees will increase thus increasing social security costs and MEDICARE since this is not scheduled to be finalized for four years. One third of the doctors and medical people will leave public care and create their own groups for people who want to pay for their own healthcare and if they are smart they will buy up some hospitals. Many doctors will retire or switch to another occupations. Also, this will be mostly a government program and if you know the government there will be red tape and limitations and fine print and costs for administration and power struggles, etc. This is not Universal Health care because it will never give everyone the care we have right now. The care will be dimished and the people working in the system will receive less pay and more patients so there is no incentive for them to "care". This is control and this is the loss of your rights to choose which doctor you want to perform a procedure to save your life. This is a crap shoot on what you get. I guarantee you it is not universal and it is not healthcare that you want. Obviously, you have not studied this bill and do not know what it says and does. Since 73% of Americans did not want this healthcare their voice has not been heard and those who are supposed to represent them did ignored those they represent. Why because it benefits big companies, big pharmas who stand to gain, George Soros, our enemies who will destroy us from within, but not the people themselves. To cheer for the passage of legislation that is against the will of the people is cheering for evil because evil is the use of one's will over others. This is a constitutional, moral and financial disaster. It is also the beginning of the "Second Revolution". For Taxation without Representation started the first revolution and the 2nd Revolution has now begun.

carnot| 3.22.10 @ 7:59PM

lex talionis

danfromatlanta| 3.22.10 @ 12:27PM

I hope this idiot deosn't have a life theatening disease. While this idiot sings praises to obama, he/she might have a genuine emergency, and won't survive the wait time to get treated. Stupid hurts!

W84November| 3.22.10 @ 12:44PM

Sure, if you're still around in four years! LOL

CZ| 3.22.10 @ 6:06PM

Oh, wow, you are singing "Revive Us Again?" Number one, who are you praising? And 2, what if you don't qualify to be resuscitated??? And I echo much of what L. Banks posted, and many others here...

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Brian Mc| 3.22.10 @ 7:04AM

Why wait? All we'd be doing now is changing the chairs after the iceburg. Big government has just become the master that we are all subservient to, from here on out, and Nancy is gloating and it makes me sick.

Rocco| 3.22.10 @ 7:49AM

I agree, Brian. Why wait? The longer we let this monstrosity exist, the harder it is to overturn and repeal it. The effort needs to start NOW - in the courts, in the streets, if necessary, leading up to election day. If the Republicans are not on board with repeal, find one who is. This congressional Augean stable needs to have all the shit cleaned out of it by November, and the time to start is NOW.

W84November| 3.22.10 @ 12:49PM

Brian Mc - Chin up, we are not subservient to anyone. Let's shut them down in November!

saleboter| 3.22.10 @ 7:16AM

Do the fines start immediately? If they do wait til your pay is cut by $2-3000 to cover paying the fine. That'll be popular - NOT!

AuntieMadder| 3.22.10 @ 10:14AM

The substantial tax increase will commence as soon as the Obamassiah signs the bill into law. I have the tv on behind me and just heard a reporter say that the first "benefit," which is coverage for those who can't get coverage elsewhere due to pre-existing conditions, is currently estimated to start in "about six months." It will 2013 or later before the roll-out of the program "benefits" for all even begin.

So, two to three or even more years of smaller paychecks due to higher taxes while at the same time receiving none of the so-called benefits. Sounds like a real bargain, eh?

Roll forming machine | 3.22.10 @ 7:40AM

But as long as there's still a prospect of changing course, conservatives should never stop fighting..heheheheh...Roll forming machine
mud pump

Ken (Old Texican)| 3.22.10 @ 8:50AM

I shamelessly copy pasted this comment by me from another column here today. It bears re-reading, I think.

The communists, (pardon the shorthand), have crossed the "Rubicon". They have burned their boats on the beach behind them.

They have now taken off their masks for all to see what they really are.

Over the next weeks and months we will see them gloating and grinning...and reaching for more.

We will also see whiners, quitters, and nit pickers here and on every other website and news source.

Screw all that!

Now.....demonstrations are nice. Tea-party get togethers are encouraging insofar as they remind us we are not alone in the fight.
BUT,
Now it is time to begin picking the battlefields and filling sand-bags. I am going to remind you folks of something you may have forgotten. You ground combat veterans certainly have not forgotten.

DEFENSE in depth requires a force only one/fourth the size of an attacking force to win a battle.
And, that folks must remind us that we must pick our OFFensive battles very carefully, and utilize maneuver and flank-thrusts. We must not be drawn into frontal assaults...at least until after November 2010.

Everyone has been jabbering about how "tough" it is to repeal an entitlement. Yep. But remember, the goodies don't start flowing for 3 or 4 years.
We must win the offensive battle at the ballot-box, folks.
There is where your local tea-party is crucial. We folks know who the leaders are...that will lead from the front.
Let me take it a step further: PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS. Use a round number. $20 times some five hundred thousand population in a congressional district equals...$10 million dollars for a campaign. Say only half the folks are on our side. That is still $5 million....a very respectable Rep campaign fund.
(PS: If you are in a hopeless district with too many commie-libs...find the nearest district where a solid "restorationist leader" is running...and put your money there.

REMEMBER! quiet defense every day. OFFENSE in the communists' flanks where it counts, with the least number of casualties...until November.
God bless America.

TGC| 3.22.10 @ 9:04AM

Amen! I'm with you 100%

AuntieMadder| 3.22.10 @ 10:16AM

We've not even begun to fight.

W84November| 3.22.10 @ 1:06PM

Spoken like a true Texan! We don't take kindly to being pushed around so we'll fix Bo's wagon. I'm going to repost your ideas to my page and make certain no one forgets come November!

Marcell | 3.22.10 @ 9:00AM

Yeah, it all started here.

I remember Ol Texicans telling me shut up & go get a Gubment job. All I can say is you spent all that money, millions, in vain.

YOU LOSE, FRANK LUNTZ !!

Here's to you Ol Texican!!

To:
Sent: Sun, June 14, 2009 11:17:01 PM
Subject: Who is winning the Healthcare Debate?

I have chosen to focus on helping the Republicans to win the healthcare debate to show my stuff. Try following my lead on this issue & you will eventually get traction. You have nothing to lose.

Who is winning the Healthcare Debate?

By Black Cell

Barack Obama is handily winning the early rounds of that debate, because he is controlling the most important aspect of the debate, & that is its cost.

While the president is hoping that he could convince voters to agree with his massive overhaul of the U.S. health care system by offering cuts to Medicare & Medicaid, the Republican focus seem to be all over the map as they tout a list of reasons to be against the different plans championed by Democrats.

What seems to be the focal point within the Republicans perspective is that they fear the government taking over the healthcare industry. The issues concerning the sky rocketing cost of healthcare doesn't seem to be a major issue to them.

But the rising cost of health care & the rising numbers of uninsured is fueling the debate surrounding that issue, & not the question should we allow the federal government the power to eventually take over that industry.

Its rising cost has forced many Americans to struggle to pay their medical bills. Employees are more & more complaining that they cannot afford high premiums for health insurance. Employers are cutting back or eliminating health benefits. Even state and federal governments are struggling to afford the rising cost of public programs like Medicaid and Medicare.

So, why should we buy into the typical rhetoric by politicians that claim they can save us more money by putting the burden of the sky rocketing cost on the tax payers back?

Even though I agree with the fact that the federal government will eventually take sole control over healthcare cost because businesses will eventually opt out of healthcare & force their employees to receive the Federal governments healthcare for financial reasons, I believe the real issue is that what President Obama is trying to offer, lower cost healthcare, can't be accomplished by the feds eventually taking over that industry.

I believe that the large number of U.S citizens who are uninsured & the even larger number of elderly who are receiving private care, along with the potentially large numbers of employers shifting their employees to the government programs will eventually overwhelm the federal government & force taxes to have to be raised or eventually the quality of healthcare will drop.

While Democrats are using their pull with the media to market how businesses (specifically small businesses) are struggling to pay for rising medical cost, Republicans could be using the same information to point out that if many of those businesses had the option to dump their healthcare cost onto the federal government there is a likely hood that they would.

How does the federal government taken over those businesses healthcare costs lower the over all cost in general?

President Obama says by creating more competition, but the reality is that the only thing would be happening is that businesses would be only shifting their burden onto the taxpayers.

Maybe the Republicans should be attempting to force Democrats to explain why the existing government ran healthcare programs Medicare & Medicaid are struggling, & conclude that Democrats should be solving those problems before taking on such projects as what ever version of universal healthcare they are marketing.

I am hoping that the Republicans start to focus more on the rising cost of healthcare & how the burden will be solely put on the backs of the tax payers if President Obama's plan is enacted.

I believe our President is fighting a noble cause, but it is one that the private industry can't solve, so why put that burden on the rest of us?

Here are two videos showing how weak the republicans look in this debate. That could be changed if they fight Obama on the issue he is trying to champion.

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Appearing on CBS' Face The Nation Sunday, McConnell told host Bob Schieffer that Mr. Obama's plan for a government health insurance plan would essentially crowd out other insurers from the private market, eliminating competition.

http://www.cbsnews.com/section.....d=5087428n

****

"This Week" interview with former Gov. Mitt Romney, R-Mass

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7835713

***

W84November| 3.22.10 @ 1:15PM

Marcell = Wind bag! LOL

Marcell | 3.22.10 @ 9:13AM

Chapter 2

A few days later I got what I needed from the Congressional Budget Office

CBO released preliminary estimates suggesting that the health care proposals — the most ambitious currently under discussion — from the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee would cost $1 trillion and trim the number of uninsured by only 16 million.

Read it for yourself :

http://budget.senate.gov/democ.....s/2009/CBO Letter HealthReformAndFederalBudget_061609.pdf

CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE Douglas W. Elmendorf, Director
U.S. Congress
Washington, DC 20515
June 15, 2009
Honorable Edward M. Kennedy
Chairman
Committee on Health, Education,
Labor, and Pensions
United States Senate
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Mr. Chairman:
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and the staff of the Joint
Committee on Taxation (JCT) have completed a preliminary analysis of the
major provisions related to health insurance coverage that are contained in
title I of draft legislation called the Affordable Health Choices Act, which
was released by the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and
Pensions (HELP) on June 9, 2009. Among other things, that draft
legislation would establish insurance exchanges (called “gateways”)
through which individuals and families could purchase coverage and would
provide federal subsidies to substantially reduce the cost of that coverage
for some enrollees.
The attached table summarizes our preliminary assessment of the
proposal’s budgetary effects and its likely impact on insurance coverage.
According to that assessment, enacting the proposal would result in a net
increase in federal budget deficits of about $1.0 trillion over the 2010–2019
period. Once the proposal was fully implemented, about 39 million
individuals would obtain coverage through the new insurance exchanges.
At the same time, the number of people who had coverage through an
employer would decline by about 15 million (or roughly 10 percent), and
coverage from other sources would fall by about 8 million, so the net
decrease in the number of people uninsured would be about 16 million.
It is important to note, however, that those figures do not represent a formal
or complete cost estimate for the draft legislation, for reasons outlined
below. Moreover, because expanded eligibility for the Medicaid program
may be added at a later date, those figures are not likely to represent the
impact that more comprehensive proposals—which might include a
Honorable Edward M. Kennedy
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significant expansion of Medicaid or other options for subsidizing coverage
for those with income below 150 percent of the federal poverty level—
would have both on the federal budget and on the extent of insurance
coverage.
Key Provisions Related to Health Insurance Coverage
Subtitles A through D of title I of the Affordable Health Choices Act would
seek to increase the number of legal U.S. residents who have health
insurance. Toward that end, the federal government would provide grants to
states to establish insurance exchanges and—more importantly—would
subsidize the purchase of health insurance through those exchanges for
individuals and families with income between 150 percent and 500 percent
of the federal poverty level; those subsidies would represent the greatest
single component of the proposal’s cost. The proposal would also impose a
financial cost on most people who do not obtain insurance, the size of
which would be set by the Secretary of the Treasury.
The draft legislation released by the HELP Committee also indicates that
certain features may be added at a later date. Because they are not reflected
in the current draft, however, CBO and the JCT staff did not take them into
account. In particular, the draft legislation does not contain provisions that
would change the Medicaid program, although it envisions that the
authority to extend Medicaid coverage will be added during Senate
consideration of the bill. (By itself, adding such provisions would increase
the proposal’s budgetary costs and would also yield a larger increase in the
number of people who have health insurance.) The draft legislation also
indicates that the committee is considering whether to incorporate other
features, including a “public health insurance option” and requirements for
“shared responsibility” by employers. Depending on their details, such
provisions could also have substantial effects on our analysis. (A summary
of the key provisions that were included in this analysis is attached.)
Important Caveats Regarding This Preliminary Analysis
There are several reasons why the preliminary analysis that is provided in
this letter and its attachments does not constitute a comprehensive cost
estimate for the Affordable Health Choices Act:
• First, this analysis focuses exclusively on the major provisions on health
insurance coverage contained in certain subtitles of title I of the draft
legislation. Although other provisions in title I, along with provisions in
the other five titles of the legislation, would have significant budgetary
effects, the analysis contained in this letter and its attachment is limited
to the provisions in subtitles A through D regarding health insurance
coverage.
Honorable Edward M. Kennedy
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Jobe| 3.22.10 @ 10:55AM

I use the signature "Honorable" as an illustration of irony in my Language Arts classes.

W84November| 3.22.10 @ 1:16PM

Marcell = Wind bag! LOL

carnot| 3.22.10 @ 8:09PM

you do realize that CBO is required to cost out assumptions in the proposed Bill that are engineered into the Bill las gimmicks in the first place? you do realize the CBO lead stated they did not have time to read/analyze the entire bill?

the whole process has been a shoddy, corrupt sham. as sure an indicator as there can be that the proposed "reforms" are a chimera.

here's the best part...the next time there is a true crisis the Prez has abdicated any perch of moral authority he might have occupied. I personally don't care what the issue might be... say...another 9/11....I am so disgusted with what has transpired that I will align with all others who resist any effort by this Prez.

Ken (Old Texican)| 3.22.10 @ 9:37AM

Hi Marcel.
Is that kool-aid tasting real good right now?

Thank God for us productive people saving you from your tummy ache.
Above is one of the most cleverly constructed lies I have seen.
Congratulations.

Missy| 3.23.10 @ 2:28AM

Marcell is that A-Hole Liberal Reader--he used this stupid moniker last year (spring 2009).

I remember, LibReader/Jeremiah/Marcell/Drew/CopyLeft!! LOLOLOL!!!!

Cris Worth| 3.22.10 @ 9:49AM

To paraphrase Churchill...the battle of France (Health Care) is over the battle of Britain (Amnesty) is about to begin. A difficult fight indeed since many RINOs like Senator Grahamnesty will be leading the charge of pro-amnesty forces.

martin j smith| 3.22.10 @ 9:54AM

Every so called Blue Dog should be quietly approach by Repubs with the following offer: You know the people will wake up and wipe you all out of office. Then we will do a curruption investigations of the whole Obama administration and Democrat members in congress. This is you last opportunity to not get caught up in that. We will go after all guilty parties and your name will be "mud". We will prosecute if crimes were committed. So think it over. If you have anything to tell us, this is the moment. Even if it is "off the record". You know where we are to reach us.

" Have a nice day."
Where is the spam ?

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Tim| 3.22.10 @ 10:04AM

Remember The Words Of Future Senator John Blutarsky,
" Over? Did you say " over "? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! "

Jobe| 3.22.10 @ 11:28AM

"This calls for one final stupid gesture, and that gesture is us"

Germans? Gracious!| 3.22.10 @ 5:16PM

Tim, you're a prime example of the muddled commenters on this blog. (dementia, anybody?)

As I recall, it was the Japanese, not the Germans, who bombed Pearl Harbor.

I guees you missed it| 3.22.10 @ 6:02PM

I guess you missed the movies.

Germans? Forget it , he's on a roll.......

Marcell | 3.22.10 @ 10:04AM

While Repugs like Ol Texican was doing their usual, sitting on their azzes & smearing good hard work, I was putting in work for the Repugs right here at this site.

Marcell| 6.18.09 @ 8:36AM
On June 20th, 2009 BLACK CELL said:
We still have a long way to go, but there is lots of money invested in stopping government run health care.
It's as if the Repubs will have to go to the verbal mattresses ( The God Father) & focus on house Democrats from red states.
*************
Lets take a look at the math of health care in the Senate
by UpstateDem
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 03:11:45 PM PDT
I have been doing a lot of thinking over the past couple days about how we will get health care with a public option through the Senate. Before October, we are going to need 60 votes to pass it and it appears to be a very uphill battle. It appears that every Republican but Olympia Snowe will not vote for healthcare reform with the public option. That leaves us with a solid 39 NO votes. It looks like Joe Lieberman, Mary Landrieu, and likely Kent Conrad and Ben Nelson will oppose the plan. That puts the NO votes at a certain 43, more than enough to kill the plan without reconciliation.
In October, reconcilation kicks in and Democrats will only need 50 votes plus Biden to pass the plan. This seems like a more reachable goal. Lets for all intents and purposes say that in the end Olympia Snowe, Blanche Lincoln, and Evan Bayh also decide to oppose the bill. That brings the NO votes up to 46. Assuming Democrats can get everyone seated(including Franken), they can lose up to four more Democratic votes and pass the plan with 50 votes with Vice President Joe Biden breaking the tie.
I dont think people realize how difficult this is going to be. We could not get this in the 1940's under Truman and were unable to get it under Clinton in 1993 with a Democratic majority almost as big. I feel that if we cannot get this done this time, we wont even be talking about universal healthcare again for another 15 or 20 years. I dont think we will ever see circumstances this favorable for many years.

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Marcell | 6.18.09 @ 8:29PM
On June 20th, 2009 BLACK CELL said:
Guys like Rush Limbaugh claim that Democrats can't win a debate with them on the issues, but their whining about news bias & all sorts of other reasons for losing the debate proves them to be totally wrong.
Hey, Rush I thought that you could win with half your brain tied behind your back... "Stop dreaming." Don't be afraid to challenge your leaders to live up to what their claimes.
Here is the RNC Chairman making a fool out of himself.
**************
Steele to GOP: 'Fight' ABC
By: Andy Barr
June 18, 2009 11:50 AM EST
Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele urged supporters Thursday to “fight” ABC News over the network’s planned televised town hall on health care that is set to air directly from the White House.
“It seems that the mainstream media has finally decided to dispense with the pointless denials of favorable coverage of the Obama administration. Now one network, ABC News, has actually turned its entire programming over to President Obama and his big-government agenda,” Steele wrote in a fundraising email under the subject line “URGENT!!! Help the RNC fight Obama & ABC News!”
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“The liberal special interests have clearly learned from their missteps the last time they tried to force Americans into a socialized health care system �" the abysmal failure of the Clinton Administration's ‘HillaryCare,’” Steele wrote. “That's why their friends at ABC News will be promoting Obamacare at virtually every opportunity, from ‘Good Morning America’ to ‘Nightline,’ and reach from ABC News' websites all the way to the White House's East Room.”
ABC has been under attack from the RNC since the committee learned of the hour-long town hall, which is scheduled to air June 24.
In a letter leaked to the Drudge Report, RNC Chief of Staff Ken McKay wrote ABC to express that he was “deeply concerned and disappointed” with the network.
Senior Vice President Kerry Smith responded that the criticism is based on “false

Jobe| 3.22.10 @ 11:31AM

Once again, the democrats like Kucinich prove that everyone (especially congress people and other government officials) can be bought. My level of revulsion has reached critical overload.

W84November| 3.22.10 @ 1:17PM

Marcell = Wind bag! LOL

Marcell | 3.22.10 @ 10:15AM

Hi Ol Texican

The Kool-iad wont taste good until I see a fat azz check with more than enough zeros behind the first digit $600,000.00.

You know how capitalism works," We have to work our behinds off & some to win." Especially when we live in a country filled with people like you who want me / us to take ALL the wrong routes so we can be used as examples by jerks like you.

Ps. Get an original thought & get back to me Repugs.

THIS IS A KNOCK OUT FOR MET!!
On June 28th, 2009 BLACK CELL said:
Who won the debate, & why I shouldn't be getting Paid?
...........
Black Cell Vs. Frank Luntz's
..."Flash Back!!"
Who is winning the health care debate?
By Black Cell
Barack Obama is handily winning the early rounds of that debate, because he is controlling the most important aspect of the debate, & that is its cost.
While the president is hoping that he could convince voters to agree with his massive overhaul of the U.S. health care system by offering cuts to Medicare & Medicaid, the Republican focus seem to be all over the map as they tout a list of reasons to be against the different plans championed by Democrats.
What seems to be the focal point within the Republicans perspective is that they fear the government taking over the healthcare industry. The issues concerning the sky rocketing cost of healthcare doesn't seem to be a major issue to them.
But the rising cost of health care & the rising numbers of uninsured is fueling the debate surrounding that issue, & not the question should we allow the federal government the power to eventually take over that industry.
Its rising cost has forced many Americans to struggle to pay their medical bills. Employees are more & more complaining that they cannot afford high premiums for health insurance. Employers are cutting back or eliminating health benefits. Even state and federal governments are struggling to afford the rising cost of public programs like Medicaid and Medicare.
So, why should we buy into the typical rhetoric by politicians that claim they can save us more money by putting the burden of the sky rocketing cost on the tax payers back?
Even though I agree with the fact that the federal government will eventually take sole control over healthcare cost because businesses will eventually opt out of healthcare & force their employees to receive the Federal governments healthcare for financial reasons, I believe the real issue is that what President Obama is trying to offer, lower cost healthcare, can't be accomplished by the feds eventually taking over that industry.
I believe that the large number of U.S citizens who are uninsured & the even larger number of elderly who are receiving private care, along with the potentially large numbers of employers shifting their employees to the government programs will eventually overwhelm the federal government & force taxes to have to be raised or eventually the quality of healthcare will drop.
While Democrats are using their pull with the media to market how businesses (specifically small businesses) are struggling to pay for rising medical cost, Republicans could be using the same information to point out that if many of those businesses had the option to dump their healthcare cost onto the federal government there is a likely hood that they would.
How does the federal government taken over those businesses healthcare costs lower the over all cost in general?
President Obama says by creating more competition, but the reality is that the only thing would be happening is that businesses would be only shifting their burden onto the taxpayers.
Maybe the Republicans should be attempting to force Democrats to explain why the existing government ran healthcare programs Medicare & Medicaid are struggling, & conclude that Democrats should be solving those problems before taking on such projects as what ever version of universal healthcare they are marketing.
I am hoping that the Republicans start to focus more on the rising cost of healthcare & how the burden will be solely put on the backs of the tax payers if President Obama's plan is enacted.
I believe our President is fighting a noble cause, but it is one that the private industry can't solve, so why put that burden on the rest of us?
Here are two videos showing how weak the republicans look in this debate. That could be changed if they fight Obama on the issue he is trying to champion.
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Appearing on CBS' Face The Nation Sunday, McConnell told host Bob Schieffer that Mr. Obama's plan for a government health insurance plan would essentially crowd out other insurers from the private market, eliminating competition.
BOOM!!
MINORITY WHIP REP. ERIC CANTOR (R-VA)
Thursday
Rep. Cantor (R-VA) discussed this week's major events in Congress, including the status of health care legislation and the energy/climate change bill, the situation in Iran, and the day's major news events. Rep. Cantor detailed the House Republicans' agenda after the July 4th recess.
Washington, DC : 27 min.
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/Me.....r+RVA.aspx
sted on May 7, 2009
Frank Luntz's "The Language of Healthcare 2009"
PRINT PAGE
EN ESPAÑOL
THE LANGUAGE OF HEALTHCARE 2009
By Dr. Frank I. Luntz
This document is based on polling results and Instant Response dial sessions conducted in April 2009. It captures not just what Americans want to see but exactly what they want to hear. The Words That Work boxes that follow are already being used by a few Congressional and Senatorial Republicans. From today forward, they should be used by everyone.
You simply MUST be vocally and passionately on the side of reform. The status quo is no longer acceptable. If the dynamic becomes “President Obama is on the side of reform and Republicans are against it,” then the battle is lost and every word in this document is useless. Republicans must be for the right kind of reform that protects the quality of healthcare for all Americans. And you must establish your support of reform early in your presentation.
THE 10 RULES FOR STOPPING THE “WASHINGTON TAKEOVER” OF HEALTHCARE
(1) Humanize your approach.
(2) Acknowledge the “crisis” or suffer the consequences.
(3) “Time” is the government healthcare killer.
(4) The arguments against the Democrats’ healthcare plan must center around “politicians,” “bureaucrats,” and “Washington” … not the free market, tax incentives, or competition.
(5) The healthcare denial horror stories from Canada & Co. do resonate, but you have to humanize them.
(6) Healthcare quality = “getting the treatment you need, when you need it.”
7) “One-size-does-NOT-fit-all.”

W84November| 3.22.10 @ 1:32PM

Marcell = Wind bag! LOL

Missy| 3.23.10 @ 2:30AM

Marcell = A-Hole Liberal Reader. Chicken crap troll.

Marcell| 3.22.10 @ 10:28AM

I still see much value in you repugs.

My agenda is to make the stakes so high for you repugs that you become too big to fail (Desperate).

Then the money men on your side will ignore the Ol played out Texican Repugs.

Keep thinking we are socialist & watch me use your ignorance to eat your lunch.

Have a nice day crazy repubs.

Melvin| 3.22.10 @ 11:14AM

Hate to break this to you, but 44% of the Democrats Congress are millionaires and the top five are are of these Democrats are the wealthiest.

carnot| 3.22.10 @ 8:14PM

whatever did become of Obama's best pal..Rezco....who paved the way for Maobama's millions?

W84November| 3.22.10 @ 1:18PM

Marcell = Wind bag! LOL

Pingback| 3.22.10 @ 10:31AM

What a Failure: Democraticare Passes : Smart Girl Nation links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…Democrats weren’t able to pass their signature initiative without throwing around indescribably vast bundles of taxed or borrowed money. Of course, they infamously attempted to dole out patently unfair benefits for particular states. Meanwhile, the executive busied himself impressing yokel congressmen with the aforementioned meaningless proclamation or free flight. Of course, we’ve come to expect such reality…

Marcell | 3.22.10 @ 10:33AM

I forgot to spam you.

Talking Points for the 2010 Election Cycle
http://algore.org/blog/black_c.....oints_2010

DON'T PAY ATTENTION @ YOUR OWN RISK
silvernblackcell@yahoo.com

Ken (Old Texican)| 3.22.10 @ 11:14AM

Marcell,
Heh, I loved your link to algore...the definition of a congenital liar.

A little copy/paste you may have missed the other day while Mr. Soros had you working somewhere else.
""Don't pick a fight with an old man. He won't fight you...he will just shoot you."

Well, Marcell, you are not worth a bullet, but you are worth shooting down with a few words of wisdom, followed by a big laugh.

W84November| 3.22.10 @ 1:13PM

Marcell = Wind bag! LOL

W84November| 3.22.10 @ 1:18PM

Marcell = Wind bag! LOL

Tim| 3.22.10 @ 10:50AM

We'll Remember In November !

And Remember !
" Community organizing group Acorn is reportedly on the verge of bankruptcy. As per some of its officials, who do not want to be named, it will declare itself bankrupt in the coming days.

Last six months have been quite traumatizing for Acorn, the liberal activist group, whose 15 state chapters have been disbanded. The biggest setback came in the form of its two largest chapters, California and New York, severing their ties with the national group. "

Lucinda| 3.23.10 @ 2:32AM

Tim, ACORN has been refunded--they're just changing their name as a fake out.

Missy| 3.23.10 @ 2:33AM

Marcell = A-Hole Liberal Reader.

Tim| 3.23.10 @ 5:00AM

Watch and learn Lucinda. ACORN Will Still Go Bankrupt. The Rebranding is another matter.

Lucinda| 3.23.10 @ 3:04PM

ACORN will NOT go bankrupt unless we keep the heat on them. Clinton's hack appointee judge has already ordered refunding for the criminal dirtbags.

Don't take anything for granted.

Marcell | 3.22.10 @ 11:34AM

Hey Ol Txican

I am still hungry, so you don't have a chance; maybe your gods should feed me, or I will continue to...

W84November| 3.22.10 @ 1:13PM

Marcell = Wind bag! LOL

W84November| 3.22.10 @ 1:14PM

Marcell = Wind bag! LOL

Richard| 3.22.10 @ 11:34AM

Is it true that entitlement laws are hard to repeal? Perhaps for the popular medicare and SSI. But Obamacare is not popular and it does not benefit, instead harms, seniors who are a big and powerful voting bloc. We will see.

Robert| 3.22.10 @ 12:32PM

You would need 2/3 of Congress to overcome a veto by president Obama. It would never happen.

The Underground Conservative | 3.22.10 @ 1:18PM

It can be de-funded by a GOP House. Simply not allocating any funds for various aspects of it. Start by de-funding the 17,000 stormtroopers wearing jackboots and Nazi bucket helmets for enforcement of the mandate. De-fund anything else that needs federal funds to commence.

In January 2013 with a new president, repeal as Quint said and Mr. Klein cited, "the head, the tail, the whole damn thing."

carnot| 3.22.10 @ 8:21PM

true...but the comedy is that...aside from the onerous tax burdens...the real benefits don't kick in until after the next election...at which time someone more amenable to repeal will be in office.

one sad aspect of all of this but visibly observable:

- the Dems in their anger to oppose the Iraq war suffered no compunction in basically abetting the enemy and increasing the likelihood of American battlefield deaths. they, of course, will never admit so...but that was the reality of THEIR ACTIONS.

- similarly, and unfortunately, the path to undoing Obamacare is going to be sustained and growing unemployment. not an attractive prospect. but one must learn from the Dems...no price is too high.

Publius| 3.22.10 @ 11:35AM

The productive need to quit waiting on November and act now. We have economic power, so lets wield it.

No buying from government car companies (GM and Chrysler).

No patronization of government owned banks.

Do not purchase from companies with a unionized workforce, whenever possible.

No patronization of companies that supported Obamacare.

Encourage small businesses to hire NO one (although Obama has done a good job of this himself).

Purchase only what is essential and nothing frivolous.

Change your 401K and private investments to money markets and or bonds. I’ve already done so.

Do not watch Obama sympathetic major networks.

Do not go to movies. Hollywood is the front line of our enemy.

Encourage your congressmen to never, ever compromise with the Democrats. That is what got us here in the first place.

Throw in your own recommendations and we will expand the list as time goes on.

The revolution lives so get off your ass and act!

carnot| 3.22.10 @ 8:23PM

I have run through this logic often. I agree and will conduct myself accordingly...although one must bear in mind that this can be a "cut your nose to spite your face" philosophy.

Communist Socialist Liberal| 3.22.10 @ 11:52AM

What a great day for the United States. This is the end of the beginning. This was the first step towards universal healthcare for all. Other Western democracies have universal government run healthcare and they have excellent systems and it costs them less per capita than in the US. I lived in Canada for a couple of years, and the healthcare system is great there- do not judge it if you have not experienced it. I also lived in France, the treatment was first class. If you need a procedure it is done within days- literally. And what is your bill when you leave? NOTHING. How much do drugs and antibiotics cost? About 80% less than in the United States. The difference between the United States and other Western democracies is that, the US healthcare is a business. In other countries Healthcare is viewed as a right and something that all people should have access to, regardless of age, religion, social or economic status. In other Western democracies, if a politician would ever propose to dismantle government healthcare there would be a revolution. I hope one day, this becomes a reality in the United States. Government run healthcare is run in almost all advanced countries: member states of the European Union, Canada, Israel, Taiwan and many more. And they are better for it. If you were to ask any of those people if they wanted to change their healthcare system for the US model- they would laugh at you- thinking what a good joke!
We are better for this change- this is not a PERFECT bill- but it is a step in the right direction. I know I will get assailed by being called a crazy liberal, a communist etc... But that does not matter. Most of the people on this website remind me of those crazy tea party people who insulted Barney Frank for being gay, and even worse calling Congressman Lewis the "n" word- despicable as he is one of the most important individuals in the civil rights movement in American history. Yesterday was a great victory for the Democrats, but more importantly it was a great victory for the people of the United States.

danfromatlanta| 3.22.10 @ 1:09PM

You paint a rather rosey picture! You fail to mention the tax rate in France to pay for all that "free" healthcare, and the famous wait times in Canada. Folks in Canada come to the US if they need immediate care. And just how many wonder drugs are developed in France? And the fact that the French are a nation of wimpy pussies that rely on the US to keep them safe so they can pretend their socialist worker's utopia is anything like a success allows them to sneer down their noses at Americans. Socialism does not work, never has and never will! I invite you to become a citizen of France since you obviously fit my description of the typical Frog. Leave our best-in-the-world healthcare system the hell alone!

W84November| 3.22.10 @ 1:21PM

Try the U.K. where health care is awful, I lived there. BTW, my physician is Canadian and moved to the U.S. because the health care in Canada is so bad.

JimE| 3.22.10 @ 7:28PM

Crazy Liberal? Not hardly, just a useful idiot S**THEAD.

Marcell| 3.22.10 @ 11:58AM

Hey Ol Texican

We are using people like you, & your power, to exploit the Republican Party.

Because

"YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER YOUR EMOTIONS."

At times, health fight gets ugly

March 21: There has been passion and anger on both sides of the health care debate, but this weekend, some voices in the crowd have been particularly nasty, mean-spirited and personal. NBC's Ron Allen reports.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21.....0#35973410

I know you hate me & want me to fail, so all I have to do is use all Americas virtues to my advantage & you will instinctively abandon them.

W84November| 3.22.10 @ 1:21PM

Marcell = Wind bag! LOL

Ken (Old Texican)| 3.22.10 @ 3:20PM

Hi back, Marcell.

Either you are as dumb as a rock.......or you are a paid liar.

I truly could care less which.

You communists have ALWAYS FAILED. You will fail this time.
You poor schmuks have always been loosers...and you will always be loosers.

We productive people have always whipped your scrawny butts. We will do so this time as well.

WHY?
Because in the final analysis........... you guys are wimps and cowards. Heh! and we can ...and will... demand that you stand your ground....or loose.

You wimpy cowards will not risk your scrawny necks when the chips go down.

A secret vote is one thing. Heh! Risking your scrawny necks is something else entirely.

You wimps have not quite figured it out yet. You gotta' kill us to defeat us. CLUCK CLUCK CLUCK...
AND YOU WIMPS DON'T HAVE THE GUTS.

...cause some of you might get dead in the process. heh.
...So spin your BS. We have the guts to risk our very lives defeating you.

YOU TURDS DO NOT HAVE THAT COURAGE!

You lost!

carnot| 3.22.10 @ 8:45PM

you must not understand what is truly going on here. those who have exemplified the best in America and its virtues are angry as all get out. I see it all over the place......people who were basically content with their diurnal preoccupations are energized like never before - they are not going to play along and they are not going to "rally to the Flag". a fundamental problem with the Obama strategy is that...aside from the fact that it makes a mockery of all his campaign promises (e.g., no new taxes for 95%)....the folks getting grilled the most are the ones paying the bills. the support comes from those who aren't doing the heavy lifting: I see it every day. this cannot survive in the long-run as the producers discover the loss in standard of living and opportunities for the families in service of those who do the least. the politics in this have been exceptionally cynical and cannot survive the hammering it will take on the hard anvil of government sponsored terror (read: regulation = monitor + detect + ENFORCE) and decreased opportunities, decreased expectations, reduced hope (ironically enough). I'm already hearing many cynically state: "I'll go work for the government...first day in my legs will be up on the desk and the nap will begin." Others are not no longer planning to achieve as much as possible for retirement but are instead shooting for a minimum standard/level of wealth at which they will retire earlier - taking their productive skills and experience with them at a net loss to the economy.

btw..I for one don't hate you. I don't particularly care who you are - you aren't a member of the groups I will be joining to undermine this nascent fascism (see: banking takeover, auto takeover, education takeover, healthcare takeover, deficit explosion, media abdication, etc., etc.). so crow.....the polity cannot survive with this much division...that's what you don't seem to fathom.

Jason| 3.22.10 @ 12:36PM

The American Spectator sowed its oats in the early 90's attacking Clinton, including his attempt on Health Care Reform. I think it's indicative of how far we've come since then and how low the Republican spin machine has fallen. The right needs to find a new angle. Their old tricks aren't working.

"....the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."

Lullaby's, Legends and Lies| 3.22.10 @ 1:12PM

Go on, keep quoting a murderer!! If that's your hero, and this socialistic American future is your real dream, I'll stand fast with the low Republican spin machine, and its old angles and old tricks any day. At least I can look in the mirror everyday, and not want to puke, while hating myself, and my fellow Americans. Die Commie Bastard!!

danfromatlanta| 3.22.10 @ 1:16PM

What dream is that? The one Karl Marx had? This bunch of phonies you voted into office are running this country into the ground on purpose. They want to bring us to our knees so we have no one else but obama to turn to. The obamageddon that took place yesterday will contine to be fought, and we will repeal it. The dumbocraps will lose their majorities in both houses of congress, and Republicans will fix it, they will stop urkle dead in his tracks, and dumbocraps will be back in the minorities where they belong and can do no more harm.

Marcell| 3.22.10 @ 2:52PM

You tell'm Jason!!

=) Smash Mouth Football =)

Q: What are they gonna do when they run out of schemes?

A: Come up with REAL ideas, or die politically.

ZerObama| 3.23.10 @ 2:36AM

WOW! HuffPo and DU took a crap and look at all the crappy liberal trolls they pooped out.

carnot| 3.23.10 @ 10:16PM

AMSPEC has been around at least since the 1970s nitwit.

but hectoring a felon can't be all that bad a thing...can it?

JJ| 3.22.10 @ 1:05PM

The economy -- remember 2008? -- crashed.

Since, Obama spent almost a trillion on stimulus, flushing it down the toilet. And he spent a trillion on a health care "fix" that was 7th on the top 10 things to do.

The economy still sucks.

carnot| 3.22.10 @ 10:19PM

you're missing the point: the "stimulus" bill was a slush fund for all manner of political payoffs/paybacks. but..per the playbook....just keep implying that it is the manifestation of "real" ideas...as Marcell does.

Were he actually clever his attempt at incendiary posts would be fun. but we saw the same a thousand times over in the last campaign.....it's gotten tedious.

KC| 3.22.10 @ 1:58PM

To those who are gloating today about Obummercare, have you read bill? know what you are getting?

To the poster on Canada's care, the WHO just released a report that ALL countries with socialized medical care had higher rates of death from cancer than the US. Why? Because the gov't won't pay for the more effective medicines, which are more expensive.

This is a letter from Indianapolis anesthesiologist Dr. Stephen E. Frazer, MD to his Senator
"As a practicing physician I have major concerns with the health care bill before Congress. I actually have read the bill and am shocked by the brazenness of the government’s proposed involvement in the patient-physician relationship. The very idea that the government will dictate and ration patient care is dangerous and certainly not helpful in designing a health care system that works for all. Every physician I work with agrees that we need to fix our health care system, but the proposed bills currently making their way through congress will be a disaster if passed.
I ask you respectfully and as a patriotic American to look at the following troubling lines that I have read in the bill. You cannot possibly believe that these proposals are in the best interests of the country and our fellow citizens.
Page 22 of the HC Bill: Mandates that the Govt will audit books of all employers that self-insure!!

Page 30 Sec 123 of HC bill: THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get.

Page 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill: YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!
Page 42 of HC Bill: The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC benefits for you. You have no choice!

Page 50 Section 152 in HC bill: HC will be provided to ALL non-US citizens, illegal or otherwise.

Page 58 HC Bill: Govt will have real-time access to individuals’ finances & a ’National ID Health card’ will be issued! (Papers please!)

Page 59 HC Bill lines 21-24: Govt will have direct access to your bank accounts for elective funds transfer. (Time for more cash and carry)

Page 65 Sec 164: Is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in unions & community organizations: (ACORN).

Page 84 Sec 203 HC bill: Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC plans in the ’Exchange.’
Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans – The Govt will ration your health care!
Page 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill: Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services. (Translation: illegal aliens.)
Page 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18: The Govt will use groups (i.e. ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan.

Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans. (AARP members – your health care WILL be rationed!)
Page 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill: Medicaid eligible individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. (No choice.)

Page 12 4 lines 24-25 HC: No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No “judicial review” against Govt monopoly.

Page 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill: Doctors/ American Medical Association - The Govt will tell YOU what salary you can make.

Page 145 Line 15-17: An Employer MUST auto-enroll employees into public option plan. (NO choice!)

Page 126 Lines 22-25: Employers MUST pay for HC for part-time employees AND their families. (Employees shouldn’t get excited about this as employers will be forced to reduce its work force, benefits, and wages/salaries to cover such a huge expense.)

Page 149 Lines 16-24: ANY Employer with payroll 401k & above who does not provide public option will pay 8% tax on all payroll! (See the last comment in parenthesis.)

Page 150 Lines 9-13: A business with payroll between $251K & $401K who doesn’t provide public option will pay 2-6% tax on all payroll.
Page 167 Lines 18-23: ANY individual who doesn’t have acceptable HC according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.

Page 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill: Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay.) (Like always)

Page 195 HC Bill: Officers & employees of the GOVT HC Admin.. will have access to ALL Americans’ finances and personal records. (I guess so they can ‘deduct’ their fees)

Page 203 Line 14-15 HC: “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax.” (Yes, it really says that!) ( a ’fee’ instead)

Page 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill: Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid Seniors. (Low-income and the poor are affected.)

Page 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill: Doctors: It doesn’t matter what specialty you have trained yourself in — you will all be paid the same! (Just TRY to tell me that’s not Socialism!)

Page 253 Line 10-18: The Govt sets the value of a doctor’s time, profession, judgment, etc. (Literally– the value of humans.)

Page 265 Sec 1131: The Govt mandates and controls productivity for ”private” HC industries.
Page 268 Sec 1141: The federal Govt regulates the rental and purchase of power driven wheelchairs.
Page 272 SEC. 1145: TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS – Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!
Page 280 Sec 1151: The Govt will penalize hospitals for whatever the Govt deems preventable (i.e…re-admissions).
Page 298 Lines 9-11: Doctors: If you treat a patient during initial admission that results in a re-admission – the Govt will penalize you.
Page 317 L 13-20: PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. (The Govt tells doctors what and how much they can own!)
Page 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3: PROHIBITION on expansion. (The Govt is mandating that hospitals cannot expand.)

Page 321 2-13: Hospitals have the opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input is required. (Can you say ACORN?)
Page 335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339: The Govt mandates establishment of=2 outcome-based measures. (HC the way they want — rationing.)

Page 341 Lines 3-9: The Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advance Plans, HMOs, etc. (Forcing people into the Govt plan)
Page 354 Sec 1177: The Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of ’special needs people!’ Unbelievable!
Page 379 Sec 1191: The Govt creates more bureaucracy via a “Tele-Health Advisory Committee.” (Can you say HC by phone?)
Page 425 Lines 4-12: The Govt mandates “Advance-Care Planning Consult.” (Think senior citizens end-of-life patients.)
Page 425 Lines 17-19: The Govt will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. (And it’s mandatory!)

Page 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3: The Govt provides an ”approved” list of end-of-life resources; guiding you in death. (Also called ‘assisted suicide.’)(Sounds like Soylent Green to me.)

Page 427 Lines 15-24: The Govt mandates a program for orders on “end-of-life.” (The Govt has a say in how your life ends!)
Page 429 Lines 1-9: An ”advanced-care planning consultant” will be used frequently as a patient’s health deteriorates.
Page 429 Lines 10-12: An “advanced care consultation” may include an ORDER for end-of-life plans.. (AN ORDER TO DIE FROM THE GOVERNMENT?!?)

Page 429 Lines 13-25: The GOVT will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.. (I wouldn’t want to stand before God after getting paid for THAT job!)

Page 430 Lines 11-15: The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end-of-life! (Again — no choice!)
Page 469: Community-Based Home Medical Services = Non-Profit Organizations. (Hello? ACORN Medical Services here!?!)
Page 489 Sec 1308: The Govt will cover marriage and family therapy. (Which means Govt will insert itself into your marriage even.)

Page 494-498: Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, and rationing those services.
Senator, I guarantee that I personally will do everything possible to inform patients and my fellow physicians about the dangers of the proposed bills you and your colleagues are debating.
Respectfully,
Stephen E. Fraser, MD

Taken from local tea party website.

Ken (Old Texican)| 3.22.10 @ 3:30PM

KC,
God bless.
Problem...you are dealing with congenital liars. they would not recognize truth...until it kills them... literally.

Please see my response above.
(Aw to hell with it, I shall re-post it here.)

""Hi back, Marcell.

Either you are as dumb as a rock.......or you are a paid liar.

I truly could care less which.

You communists have ALWAYS FAILED. You will fail this time.
You poor schmuks have always been loosers...and you will always be loosers.

We productive people have always whipped your scrawny butts. We will do so this time as well.

WHY?
Because in the final analysis........... you guys are wimps and cowards. Heh! and we can ...and will... demand that you stand your ground....or loose.

You wimpy cowards will not risk your scrawny necks when the chips go down.

A secret vote is one thing. Heh! Risking your scrawny necks is something else entirely.

You wimps have not quite figured it out yet. You gotta' kill us to defeat us. CLUCK CLUCK CLUCK...
AND YOU WIMPS DON'T HAVE THE GUTS.

...cause some of you might get dead in the process. heh.
...So spin your BS. We have the guts to risk our very lives defeating you.

YOU TURDS DO NOT HAVE THAT COURAGE!

You lost!

(Just a tought,l KC)

Crazy communist Liberal| 3.22.10 @ 3:54PM

If you like quoting WHO reports (the one you mentioned I could not find), you will see that the best health care systems in the world as ranked by the WHO are 1- France. Canada? 30th. United States 37th. Enough said. Shut up you fool.

Al Adab| 3.22.10 @ 4:06PM

Your very measuring standard is in error. Following a Marxist materialist standard leads to all sorts of problems. The true measure is not some system, but rather which nation is most free with fewest citizens being wards of the state. Imposition of mandates, taxes and "systems" makes slaves of the citizenry and dependants of us all. Shame.

JimE| 3.22.10 @ 7:30PM

Of course you couldn't find it, you have to be able to read, just know how to cut a paste isn't going to cut it retard.

carnot| 3.22.10 @ 10:13PM

very nice.

while Marcell might think he is roiling the waters for a rather odd self gratification....your quotes are much more convincing.

Marcell| 3.22.10 @ 2:47PM

Repug emotion run a-muck

Obama is the least of your problems:

GOP Rep. admits to 'baby killer' remark

March 22: Texas GOP Representative Randy Neugebauer admits that "in the heat and emotion of the debate," he called the health care bill "a baby killer" on the floor of the House.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21.....1#35987851

carnot| 3.22.10 @ 8:55PM

pffft. so what. As a retired vet I remember the atrocious things Sen Obama, Murtha, Pelosi and others made about Americans serving in Iraq.......speaking of hyperbole. one more reason we vets will/are working quietly behind the scenes to advocate serving members leave active duty at the first opportunity. it's happening dude! now, of course, this plays into what the libs actually want...right up to the moment their kids their kids are kidnapped while backpacking in Europe or are flown into a tall building.

you want emotion? you want irrational behavior? fine...we saw lots of that from Pelosi et al 2006-2008. "we're your huckleberries"

Ted| 3.22.10 @ 10:41PM

Yup. Old folks, social outcasts, racists, and 99% WHITE? Oh, that's just a coincidence eh? The KKK (aka "Tea Baggers") of 2010 is showing their true colors. Good luck with that!

Lucinda| 3.23.10 @ 2:38AM

You are baby killers, idiot. Admit you're proud of it.

Marcell| 3.22.10 @ 3:03PM

Health care politics take nasty turn

March 22: House Majority Whip Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C., and Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., react to the racial slurs directed towards lawmakers by angry health care protesters.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21.....2#35987622

Missy| 3.23.10 @ 2:40AM

Got video or audio of this 'incident', Marcell? No? Sorry, no video or audio means it never happened.

Nice try, moron.

Al Adab| 3.22.10 @ 3:27PM

Our marching orders come from John Adams. He wrote, "...there may be unjust and unequal laws obedience to which is incompatible with Liberty."

We have come to that moment. Either we can submit and become wards of the state or we can resist in the hope of maintaining Liberty. The cost may be high, but submission's price is higher. We must not play, we must resist, we shall never bow the knee to this tyranny.

Ken (old Texican)| 3.22.10 @ 3:36PM

God bless Al Adab.
See above.

Ron| 3.22.10 @ 3:37PM

This is a clip of 2 men I despise. Unfortunately for America, Sharpton is correct. Lets just pray we can fix this before it is too late.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqojWrtnieI

Ken (Old Texican)| 3.22.10 @ 3:44PM

CLUCK CLUCK CLUCK!

Communist cowards always loose when we the people are armed.

Heh! They are finally.....cowards.
Please see my posts above.

If they think jihadists are "mean"... heh heh heh, they have never faced free men and women.... until now.
OOps!

Ted| 3.22.10 @ 10:39PM

Bring it on ya tea baggin' loons. Or ya just gonna sit there and type? Yep, I thought so.

Jeremiah| 3.23.10 @ 2:42AM

Buzz off, libturd.

Melvin| 3.22.10 @ 3:51PM

After giving this issue a allot of thought, I have come up with the most equitable solution to the health care bill.
Close hospitals, and doctors offices for Baby Boomers. By doing this, the deficit will be pared down substantially, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security will all save unimaginable amounts of funding due to Baby Boomers dying at a accelerated rate. Because that is what the politicians wanted all along correct?
The big political fear is, "How can the system cope without being overloaded by all the Boomers coming of age."
Because, ya really got to look at it this way. Why have this incremental approach with the Boomers, by raising their insurance premiums and then ultimately forcing them on government rationed care that will cause then to pass on slowly but not as fast as the government would
like.
Just knock the old bastards off with one fell swoop. Law of the jungle I'd say. Look at all the jobs this would create.
Reality shows could be created with prizes of medicine instead of money. How many Boomers would kill each other for high blood pressure medication or diabetes meds following along the popular reality show Survivor.
Oh here's a good one. "Rat your neighbor" pick a neighborhood and have the neighbors figure out who is the one who is black marketing medication or the unnamed doctor in the neighborhood who is running a guerrilla family practice clinic.
The prize could be a free visit to the government hospital.

"Melvin, you lost your frigging mind with this post.
To each to his own opinion, but if this Health Care Reform stands in present form. Our health care is going to become survival of the fittest and as it is rationed it will pit groups of Americans and immigrants against each other for their slice of the ever shrinking health care pie.
But look on the bright side. At least Nancy Pelosi will still be getting botox treatments at tax payer expense.

Lucinda| 3.23.10 @ 2:52AM

Melvin, a lot of those stupid liberals who voted for this crap are older than Boomers. What about them?
We'll get them first.

Sarah was right about "DEATH PANELS." ObamaCare rationing.

Quark| 3.22.10 @ 4:57PM

I attended the gathering at the Capitol building Friday with my wife and daughters. The size of the crowd was well short of the tea party crowd on 9/11. We stopped at Gettysbugh on Sunday coming home. As we stood in front of the plaque that recorded Lincoln's Gettysburg address we heard on the radio that the bill was likely going to pass. At that moment Lincoln's words sent a chill up my spine in the context of this health bill, and the arm twisting, constiutionally recklaess way that this bill was passed...Make no doubt we are engaged in a great battle to test whether this nation, concieved in Liberty can long stand. There is no greater test to these principles than this Health Care Bill. We are in a battle for our freedom, and the lines are drawn. Are you ready to fight the battle to ensure that that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth?

Ken (Old Texican)| 3.22.10 @ 7:06PM

Quark,
Welcome.
Marchin' right here beside you, mate.
Ken

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dtcofAZ| 3.22.10 @ 5:35PM

Hey Marcell, if you have the guts, why don't you and the parasites move to Venezuela or Cuba to worship your dictators? They will give you free healthcare with no questions asked. All is good as long as someone else paid it for you, scumbag! Too bad the majority of the American people voted for this socialist/dictator into the WH with all of his croonies communists.

Marcell| 3.22.10 @ 5:45PM

It's not about health care to me, it's about honesty & integrate within politics, religion, culture, & life.

I am not talking about from my perspective only like you.

I am speaking for myself, because my portfolio is diverse, " built for the long haul."

Much love to the Ol Geezer Tixican!!

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I am loving this,
On March 22nd, 2010 BLACK CELL said:
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I am also looking forward to a Democratic Party that has no other alternative but to unite behind one message; Stupak proves wavering is political suicide.
Daily Rundown: March 22
March 22: Watch the full broadcast.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21.....2#35986412

Marcell| 3.22.10 @ 5:59PM

Take this energy & create some good public policy, instead of looking to escape some hypothetical tyranny.

"We have come to that moment. Either we can submit and become wards of the state or we can resist in the hope of maintaining Liberty. The cost may be high, but submission's price is higher. We must not play, we must resist, we shall never bow the knee to this tyranny."

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Marcell| 3.22.10 @ 6:08PM

That way you force the Dems to get STAY better than a repug.

Ken (Old Texican)| 3.22.10 @ 7:13PM

Hey, folks,
Check out above just how ignorant Marcell and mates truly are without copy/paste talking points.

Whew, great declarative sentence, looser. Heh.

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Pennsylvania's Attorney General ,Tom Corbett joined 11 other State Attorneys General planning to file suit against The Obama Health Bill as an Unconstitutional Bill .

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Conservatives just can’t seem to make up their mind about Saul Alinsky.

Was he a tactical genius to be imitated, an agitator whose teachings will undercut the right’s goals, a devil-worshiper leading young conservatives down the path to damnation, or some combination of all three?

The modern right harbors an “almost schizophrenic view of what they can use and learn from Alinsky, and yet he is this totally evil guy,” said Sanford D. Horwitt, author of “Let Them Call Me Rebel,” a biography of Alinsky.

And the debate among conservatives, most of whom had never heard of Alinsky until recently, is only picking up steam nearly four decades after his death in 1972.

Often described as the father of modern community organizing, Alinsky helped poor and working class urban communities around the country push for improved living and working conditions by confronting, satirizing or negotiating with the establishment, as well as by building diverse coalitions including small businesses, labor unions and religious groups, such as the Roman Catholic Church.

He’s long been a hero on the left, but the right’s fascination with him dates to the 2008 presidential campaign, when lots of attention was paid to Alinsky’s impact on leading Democratic contenders Hillary Clinton, who wrote her college thesis about him, and Barack Obama, who trained in — and utilized — his community organizing techniques.

Alinsky strictly resisted political labels and affiliations, once explaining “if you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated.” But conservatives began invoking his name as something of an epithet to sully the left’s tactics as sneaky, underhanded, unethical — or Marxist.

But a funny thing happened on the way to Alinsky taking a place alongside top contemporary conservative bogeymen like Michael Moore, George Soros and Jane Fonda. His seminal 1971 guide to organizing, “Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals,” became a must-read for a new wave of conservative activists who mobilized — many for the first time — in opposition to the ambitious, big-government agenda pushed by President Obama and the Democratic Congress.

In the opening lines of “Rules,” Alinsky described its mission — and his approach — thus: “What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to what they believe it should be. 'The Prince' was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. 'Rules for Radicals' is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away."

Suddenly, the book was being touted as a way to beat the left at its own game by everyone from 69-year-old former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, whose nonprofit group FreedomWorks has emerged as a leading Washington bulwark for the tea party movement, to 25-year-old James O’Keefe, the self-styled activist investigative journalist who last year became a conservative hero for secretly recording employees of the liberal community-organizing group ACORN apparently offering advice on how to set up a brothel, to tea party leaders seeking to disrupt congressional town halls.

But in the last couple months, there’s been something of a backlash on the right, both as a result of the arrest of O’Keefe and three colleagues during a botched plot to embarrass Democratic Sen. Mary Landrieu, and because some conservatives are questioning whether Alinsky’s ideas and tactics — and, to some extent, the tea party movement as a whole — are intellectually consistent with American conservatism.

David Brooks, The New York Times’s leading conservative columnist, this month cited the tea party crowd’s embrace of Alinksy in blasting the movement’s “self-righteousness and naïve radicalism” and declaring it “radically anticonservative.”

Veteran Republican operative John Feehery then declared that when conservatives adopt Alinsky’s tactics, “they help further the cause of the left, which is social instability.”

And Dawn Eden, a conservative Roman Catholic author and blogger, last month observed disapprovingly that in the course of “exposing the alleged Alinsky-like tactics of the modern Left[,] some conservatives became Alinskyites themselves.”

Noting that the original version of “Rules” included an “acknowledgement to the very first radical ... Lucifer,” Eden and a co-author argued that Alinsky “served ... Lucifer” and deemed his tactics anathema to “St. Paul’s dictum that we cannot do evil that good may come.”

But according to Horwitt, many of Alinsky’s devotees and critics on the right — including O’Keefe, Brooks and Eden — misunderstand Alinsky’s teachings and legacy.

The Lucifer dedication, for instance, was “clearly meant as a joke — a normal person chuckles,” Horwitt said, adding Alinsky’s discourse on mean and ends was meant to provoke its practitioners to ask "does this particular end justify this particular means?"

Horwitt called out Brooks for branding Alinsky “the leading tactician of the New Left” — the wave of young activists who mobilized on college campuses against the Vietnam War and for civil rights.

“No! Totally wrong!” Horwitt said. “Alinsky didn’t connect with the young people in the New Left crowd, because he thought that, while their hearts were in the right place, they didn’t know how to organize and they were often committing the cardinal sin — they were organizing the opposition in his view by stupid tactics like burning the American flag and basically pissing on middle class symbols and values.”

Horwitt, who participated in a 10-day training session led by Alinsky and remained in touch with him until his death, called Alinsky “a great pragmatist” who “knew that your own little band was never enough to get things done. You had to reach a broader constituency and the New Left was simply turning off people that they needed to win over.”

Horwitt thinks Alinsky would have “sympathy for the kind of working and middle class folks who are at the tea parties, who the economy is hurting a lot and who are angry and kind of confused.”

But, he added, “If Alinsky sat down with the tea party people, one of the first things he would say is ‘you have got to stop calling Obama a socialist.’” Alinsky would see the socialism charge, as well as racially tinged criticism of Obama and questions about whether he was born in the United States and is eligible to be president (the “birther” argument) as “goofy” and limiting the appeal of the tea party’s underlying push for limited government and taxation, which Horwitt said “has pretty broad reach.”

On the other hand, Horwitt said, some in the tea party movement have at times faithfully applied Alinsky’s dictum to "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it.”

In fact, a conservative leader quoted the rule in a memo that circulated widely last summer that calmly detailed techniques for tea party activists seeking to disrupt congressional town halls. They could “rattle” and “set back on their heels” lawmakers and their staffs, the memo asserted, partly “us[ing] the Alinsky playbook of which the left is so fond: Freeze it, attack it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

O’Keefe, who had received — and later led — training on using Alinsky’s Rules against the left, said his videos were based on the book, and Horwitt said Alinsky “would have appreciated O’Keefe for his balls and his humor.” But he asserted Alinsky would never have endorsed “pretending you’re someone else in a public place.”

Firebrand talk show host Glenn Beck also has suggested his viewers use Alinsky’s tactics against the Obama administration. And he praised the artist behind the posters depicting Obama as the Joker from Batman over the word ‘socialism’ — which Beck contended utilized Alinsky’s rule declaring ridicule “man's most potent weapon.”

But Beck is among the most vocal Alinsky conspiracy theorists, calling him a “Marxist” and a “morally bankrupt individual who would use any means to achieve his ends” and suggesting Alinsky’s fingerprints can be found on what Beck describes as an elaborate Obama administration plot to hurtle the U.S. headlong into socialism — a plot that Beck believes includes the administration’s push to overhaul the nation’s health care system.

“While these community organizers appear to be agitating for a seemingly noble goal, or one or another, their underlying mission is — as Alinsky said — how the have-knots can take power from the haves,” Beck said on his Fox News television show last year. “If you know what Saul Alinsky was about, everything — everything that Obama does is going to start to make a little more sense.”

At various times, Beck also has accused the White House of using Alinsky’s tactics against him and fellow conservative talkers Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly, as well as tea party activists, birthers, critics who falsely alleged the health overhaul contained so-called death panels, and AIG executives, among others.

Armey, on the other hand, has a more nuanced view of Alinsky, telling the Financial Times last year: “What I think of Alinsky is that he was very good at what he did but what he did was not good.”

Employees of Armey’s FreedomWorks group have been studying and using Alinsky’s methods — including those in his often overlooked precursor to “Rules,” the 1946 “Reveille for Radicals” — since before he got hot, as an alternative to traditional conservative organizational tactics that focused on influencing elites and intellectuals. And FreedomWorks’ organizers utilized and spread the Alinsky gospel as they traveled the country last year helping newly engaged tea party activists set up their own groups.

“I put together a PowerPoint on grass-roots organizing and the favorite part for a lot of these organizers was how this leftist community organizer Saul Alinsky was so effective and how we can use his tactics against the left,” said FreedomWorks’ top organizer, Brendan Steinhauser.

“You become a better organizer when you understand that there is nothing new under the sun,” Steinhauser said of his appreciation of Alinsky. “All the pitfalls, the problems, the disputes — this is the way human beings are. Politics is a human science and this guy understood that. He was practical. He understood how to get competing factions and interests and individuals to get in the same room and form what he called a ‘peoples’ organization’ and to move in the same direction to take on city hall.”

That’s directly applicable to organizing the tea party movement, Steinhauser said “because we have social conservatives and more libertine libertarians and national security conservatives.” Like Alinsky, Steinhauser said he tries to agitate apathetic or disjointed groups into action, asserting that it was no small feat to “get conservatives to protest and to feel more comfortable using the tactics of the left to achieve our conservative ends.”

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In addition to challenging this legislation in the courts and fighting any new Dem moves in Congress, the GOP must focus on taking the House and getting 8+ Senate seats.

Then in 2012, get the Senate and put Palin in at POTUS. She is the only charismatic, solid common-sense conservative on the horizon.

If the GOP, angry indies, and the TPM unite, we will be in position to repeal this mess and institue real reform and pull back the government.

Mitt is toast, stick a fork in him, Huck is not a conservative, T-Paw is afraid of his own shadow, and Thune is a pretty boy.

The Cuda is the Anti-Obama in just about every way. She is not a savior, but she is solid on what we will need come Jan. 2013.

PALIN FOR PRESIDENT! 2012| 3.23.10 @ 2:55AM

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