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Washington Prowler
Rush Was Right
The Blair House turning point. Plus: Plouffe stand-up.
USEFUL NICE GUYS
Some Republicans will point the President Obama’s Blair
House health care meeting with Republicans as the event that
enabled Democrats to get to a point where the Senate health care
bill could pass. During the event and immediately afterward, some
Republicans were given credit for standing up to the President
and attempting to get a leg up, but according to a Democrat
leadership aide in the House, the event accomplished exactly what
the Democrats and the White House wanted.
“It allowed us to create the impression that Republicans had had a hand. It allowed the President afterward to claim he had included Republican proposals in the bill, and gave us a clear path to moving the process along, where before we didn’t,” says the aide. “Your Republican friends will disagree, but the minute they agreed to that meeting, we knew we were at the least back in business.”
A White House aide, who was involved in planning the media sideshow at Blair said, “If the Republicans had actually listened to Rush [Limbaugh] and [Mark] Levin and [Fred] Thompson and not attended, we might have been in different situation. Before February 25, we had no momentum, you just felt it, after the summit, when the President told Republicans that if we couldn’t agree, then we’d just have to move on without them, we had a bit of a opening and no major public opinion backlash.”
LAUGH LINES
Karl Rove appeared on ABC’s This
Week with a chart full of facts about the Obama health care
bill and what it would do to the U.S. economy. Obama political
consultant David Plouffe appeared with several
humorous talking points provided him by the White House.
“We wanted him to be ready,” says a White House communications aide. When Rove raised the issue of the damage the health care bill would cause the U.S. economy, Plouffe jumped in, saying, “Karl and the Republicans would be familiar with that. Under their leadership, they took us from big budget surpluses to a $1.3 trillion deficit.”
Later, he used the line: “Karl and the Republicans have zero credibility — about as much credibility as the country of Greece does to talk about fiscal responsibility.”
Both were written for him by the White House. “Oh, we hand a bunch of these out for our surrogates when they go on TV,” says the White House aide. “Especially for folks who don’t really have a sense of humor.”
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ggoblue| 3.22.10 @ 6:40AM
225 days till midterms
saleboter| 3.22.10 @ 7:08AM
Amen to that ggoblue
Pingback| 3.22.10 @ 7:09AM
White House: Rush Was Right « The Underground Conservative links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Brian Mc| 3.22.10 @ 7:25AM
General Lee to Jeb Stuart, (who has just offered his sword in resignation) in the movie, "Gettysburg"...
"There is no time for that now, General, there is no time!"
Treason to our founding...
Treason to our Founding fathers...
Treason to our Republic...
Treason to our Constitution...
Midterms? There is no time.
John| 11.25.10 @ 6:53AM
As a Christian and Republican, I can only agree with you. I like the "credibility as a Greece can talk about fiscal responsibility" quote. That is pretty funny.
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martin j smith| 3.22.10 @ 8:18AM
I disagree with this view. I think its about Chicago, or Thug or fascist politics period. The Repubs attended or not makes no difference.
Its the threats with arm twisting and phony bribes that would be done no matter. Get it straight. We are dealing with Fascist,Socialist Thugs. That is the problem and the issue.
Liberal Reader| 3.22.10 @ 9:29AM
Yeah.
Those fascist thugs.
Always doing things like having debates, voting, running for office, passing legislation.
I can see what you mean martin.
Hah!
These Democrats are just like fascists.
Tim| 3.22.10 @ 11:14AM
This is not a good time, just goback to hanging out at Necronomincononline.com.
JamesJ| 3.22.10 @ 12:23PM
Making me buy health insurance IS facism.
I hope in a few years when this crap kicks in, you are the first to wait 9 months for your MRI and all othee "rationed care."
Grzmlyk| 3.22.10 @ 1:12PM
Liberal Reader's real name:
Useful Idiot #53,437,556.
Great comments, Useful Idiot 53,437,556. Your unique intelligence really sets you apart from Useful Idiot 53,437,555 and Useful Idiot 53,437,557!
Tony in Central PA| 3.22.10 @ 4:50PM
LR, don't forget to throw in the bribes, empty promises, threats, disregard for our form of government and the desires of the electorate. How is this guy better than Bush ?
SoCon| 3.22.10 @ 10:04PM
At least GWB didn't take over the auto industry, the banking industry, the student loan program and the health care industry (which comprises about 1/5 of our economy).
Plus all the bribes, empty promises, lies, threats, disregard for our form of government and the wishes of the people.
Radegunda| 3.23.10 @ 1:53AM
When the government reaches into your bank account to grab the fine that's imposed on you for not buying the correct, government-approved kind of insurance, then come back and tell us if it's fascist.
When the government says you may not get a student loan anywhere outside of government channels, then decide if it's fascist.
When a government panel decides which medical treatments your (government-hired) doctor may or may not use--and you have no other options--tell us then if it's fascist.
When the government controls about half the economy--oh, golly, that's now!--then it's pretty darn close to the dictionary definition of fascist. And they haven't even gotten to their plans to control talk radio and the internet.
val| 3.22.10 @ 8:25AM
Nonsense. The majority of American people let it be known again and again that they did not want Obamacare as written. The progressive party chose to ignore the will of the people. The GOP cannot be blamed for this. Not when the will of the people was fully known by the progressives.
Thorvald| 3.22.10 @ 9:06AM
The SecProgs passed from legislators to tyrants last night and became suicide legislators in fact. Like suicide bombers, they may not be pacified until they're dead.
Look at ACORN funding: it's baaaack.
wbheff| 3.22.10 @ 2:32PM
To paraphrase Dorothy, "Toto, We're not in America anymore."
Ken (Old Texican)| 3.22.10 @ 8:42AM
Well, folks,
The communists, (pardon the shorthand), have crossed the "Rubicon". They have burned their boats on the beach behind them.
They have now taken off their masks for all to see what they really are.
Over the next weeks and months we will see them gloating and grinning...and reaching for more.
We will also see whiners, quitters, and nit pickers here and on every other website and news source.
Screw all that!
Now.....demonstrations are nice. Tea-party get togethers are encouraging insofar as they remind us we are not alone in the fight.
BUT,
Now it is time to begin picking the battlefields and filling sand-bags. I am going to remind you folks of something you may have forgotten. You ground combat veterans certainly have not forgotten.
DEFENSE in depth requires a force only one/fourth the size of an attacking force to win a battle.
And, that folks must remind us that we must pick our OFFensive battles very carefully, and utilize maneuver and flank-thrusts. We must not be drawn into frontal assaults...at least until after November 2010.
Everyone has been jabbering about how "tough" it is to repeal an entitlement. Yep. But remember, the goodies don't start flowing for 3 or 4 years.
We must win the offensive battle at the ballot-box, folks.
There is where your local tea-party is crucial. We folks know who the leaders are...that will lead from the front.
Let me take it a step further: PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS. Use a round number. $20 times some five hundred thousand population in a congressional district equals...$10 million dollars for a campaign. Say only half the folks are on our side. That is still $5 million....a very respectable Rep campaign fund.
(PS: If you are in a hopeless district with too many commie-libs...find the nearest district where a solid "restorationist leader" is running...and put your money there.
REMEMBER! quiet defense every day. OFFENSE in the communists' flanks where it counts, with the least number of casualties...until November.
God bless America.
Tenn Slim| 3.22.10 @ 10:02AM
Texican
Your analysis is spot on. Tennesseeans understand the Ground Tactics fully. We will parse, delineate, email, write and make the dust fly around our Disreputable Reps in DC. The SunTzu tactics watching your flank, give ground slowly, keep your enemy close do apply.
We Will Prevail
Semper Fi
end
Paul from SA| 3.22.10 @ 10:52AM
I've seen many Democrats on TV saying this is just the first step. Indeed they are gloating.
Tim| 3.22.10 @ 11:17AM
Rooster Cogburn: If ever I meet one of you Texas waddies who ain't drunk water from a hoofprint, I think I'll... I'll shake their hand or buy 'em a Daniel Webster cigar.
Ken (Old Texican)| 3.22.10 @ 2:04PM
Well Rooster, you owe me a cigar, and a drink, Skotch please.
Kiss my butt.
See Rooster had the guts to go into a gunfight. You wimps do not.
You are only good for holding your begging cup out.
ZZMike | 3.22.10 @ 8:51PM
Good comment, Ken. It's up to us now. We can lie down and let the train run over us, or we can do something about it.
We've go two frontlines to battle on. First, the ballot box. Work to unseat every liberal (on either side of the aisle) who voted for this monstrosity. Second, use the tactics they've been using for years. Get a copy of Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" - that's the Obama team playbook. Learn how to throw monkey wrenches in the wheels of government. Organize. That's what they're best at (just look at Obama's Facebook numbers). Hundreds of isolated Tea Party meetings is a start - but just a start. They've got to connect. They've got to make a real grassroots movement. They've got to hammer at the Congressional phone lines, they've got to hammer at the liberal MSM with letters and phone calls.
And keep in mind that just 'cause someone says he's a Republican doesn't mean he's a conservative. How they voted tells you a little.
Organize.
Milo| 3.22.10 @ 9:11PM
Somewhere Lenin, Marx, Trotsky, Stalin and many of their comrades are smiling down on us agreeing that it took longer than they thought it would but, in the end, communism would triumph in America.
Marc Jeric| 3.24.10 @ 1:55AM
Milo is right; I should know, being a refugee from a communist hell. I think also that it is too late to organize for victory - they won. Now comes cap & trade, then further nationalizations. They are embedded everywhere - schools, universities, government employee unions, bureaucrats, personnel offices, movie industry, mass media, television. Talking about revolution is too late - their revolution is over and won while we slept. Illiterate nincompoops "educated" by teacher unions have voted them in and will do so again - we now have 60% od population on the dole.
Friarbones| 3.22.10 @ 9:16AM
I agree with Martin...this would have been done regardless of any kind of GOP response. The deal making and the arm twisting happened with so much noise from the public against this that it did not matter. We are now living in a National Socialist State.
Cris Worth| 3.22.10 @ 9:43AM
I first learned of the weakling GOP after the 1966 midterm elections when the Republicans made a remarkable comeback from the 1964 debacle. Though still in the minority they were in a strong position to change federal policy for the better. But they rolled over and played dead worried about losing the gains they made in the next election cycle. Hence the Great Society grew unabated and the Vietnam War continued to escalate. And this cycle of Republican Party ineffectiveness continues today.
Rico | 3.22.10 @ 5:28PM
They did more than roll over. In 2009 and 2010, they DEFENDED Medicare. Even Rush attacks politicians for daring to cut the program. Why can't we be consistent about opposing ALL socialized medicine, instead of blessing one and cursing the other.
The GOP is just a different brand of socialist.
Patriot| 3.22.10 @ 10:09PM
Nice try at equivalence--but you're wrong, Bozo, Republicans will never be commie demoncrats.
Tim| 3.22.10 @ 9:43AM
November 2nd ! November 2nd ! November 2nd !
We'll Remember In November !
Tim| 3.22.10 @ 11:12AM
Will we?
darcy| 3.22.10 @ 12:40PM
Who's waiting 'til November?
Get active in your local Republican Party. Become a precinct committeeman -- our ground soldiers; imagine the power we'd have if every pc walked their district to fire up the party and get out the vote; what if registered repubs voted in November in droves, say to the tune of 95% turnout? And that, after they'd been nurtured during these coming months by their precinct committeeman about the issues and the dangerous abyss this country stares into even as I write.
Get the address of the local Republican Party HQ and pay them a visit today! Besides, we need to among the troops, among those who share our fire in the belly.
Cal Mark| 3.22.10 @ 3:39PM
The key to this is tossing out the elitist dinosaurs who run the GOP.
True story: with great difficulty, I managed to get involved in a conservative campaign run by a local Republican chieftan. Everyone from the "in crowd" marveled: "How the heck did you get in here?" As soon as she didn't need my gruntwork, she threw me off her email list.
We need to kick the GOP dinosaurs to the curb, then take the fight to the enemy.
milo| 3.22.10 @ 9:21PM
Darcy and Cal Mark. You are so very right. The GOP needs people with fire in the belly not mealy mouthed and weak Senators like Hatch of Utah or Linsey Graham. The Left is constantly in "attack mode" while the GOP just takes it like wimps. The voters don't want wimps. That's why Chicago bully tactics are ruling the roost. The other problem is the attention span of the majority of the population runs long enough to hear "Hope and Change".
milo| 3.22.10 @ 9:25PM
Sorry, Cris Worth, I forgot to include you in my post. I'll give Obama and his minions one thing: They have cajones.
Cris Worth| 3.23.10 @ 10:27AM
Some GOP Senate history: Two hard core leftist Supreme Court justices nominated by Democrats...Thurgood Marshall received only one no vote from the GOP. Ruth Bader Ginsburg received only three GOP no votes. Contrarily conservative Supreme Court justice Robert Bork nominated by a Republican received six GOP no votes and was not confirmed. History confirms GOP senate duplicity and Senator Grahmnesty is the latest example.
martin ju smith| 3.22.10 @ 9:56AM
To Liberal reader: " Have a nice day."
martin ju smith| 3.22.10 @ 9:56AM
To Liberal reader: " Have a nice day."
Caius Keys| 3.22.10 @ 10:04AM
@Liberal Reader
Excellent points! I'm glad to know that you've read your history. Most dems/libs/progs are just drones that just repeat what they're told or spout off stuff that they "feel deeply." Which history did you read? Probably _Rise and Fall of the Third Reich_, so you know that the Nazis (i.e., national socialists) were voted in, all nice and legal with debates and stuff at a time when the moral fibre of their country was disintegrating. Their leader also was a very charismatic speaker, but he didn't use a teleprompter!
Tenn Slim| 3.22.10 @ 10:04AM
As my Former Colleagues said in 1950, "H... No, we have not lost the battle, we moving forward in a different direction" Gen Chesty Puller circa 1950, at Chosin. To those of a younger generation, we lost a battle, and won a Police Action.
We Will Prevail
Semper Fi
end
JP| 3.22.10 @ 2:06PM
...Or as another Marine said in 1918, "Retreat Hell! We just got here!"
Dai Alanye | 3.22.10 @ 4:43PM
Not Puller but General Smith:
"Retreat, hell—we're just advancing in a different direction."
The Marines and attached units were surrounded at the time, and fighting their way out of the encirclement.
Bob Miller| 3.22.10 @ 10:05AM
Nothing gets repealed until this President leaves office. The interim plan has to be a skillful delaying action, without regard for insults from the Democrats and Democrat-controlled media.
Ken (Old Texican)| 3.22.10 @ 11:30AM
Hi Bob Miller.
You have certainly got a point, but another thought: In November, we can elect a House of Reps to refuse to fund EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING.
My first premise of course is that the American "courageous majority", (which of course is always a minority), will vote in a congress with brass plumbing; that this time the folks will show up on election day.
Failing that, this country is in for some .......gulp.
darcy| 3.22.10 @ 12:44PM
Ken (Old Texican),
Please see my note above about our ground soldiers -- the precinct committeemen.
Ken (Old Texican)| 3.22.10 @ 2:13PM
Darcy,
I caught your thought. Splendid thought. We at Team America do the deal...every single day.
Please, do yourself a favor. Go to our gateway site: http://judgeroy.wordpress.com
When you contact .....whoever... please identify yourself with thousands of serious people at "judgeroy" . We are working with local tea-parties to nominate and elect patriots.
EVERYONE you call will have their boss call you back.
...Please learn where we at www.myteamusa.org are coming from first, if you want to use our name.
God bless.
fbom| 3.22.10 @ 10:05AM
To the Senate and House:
To be sung in the key of lies and betrayal.
Nan nan nan nan, hey hey hey, goodby.
Siegfried X| 3.22.10 @ 10:33AM
I disagree. At the time pundits in both parties said that Republicans did the right thing by showing up. Media supporting both parties said the same thing.
Obama WANTED Republicans to refuse to show up. That was going to be his excuse, that it was impossible to compromise with Republicans.
I don't know why American Spectator is supporting spin planted by the White House in order to divide the Republican Party. NR is letting itself become Obama's tool by supporting this.
Caius Keys| 3.22.10 @ 10:54AM
I have to agree -- that was actually a deft piece of politics by the Dems/Libs/Progs (DLPs) in that it put the GOP in a semi-no-win position. Show up, and you play Obama's game. Stay away, and you look petty and petulant. I think the GOP did a good job -- showed up, made their points, and held their ground. It was a tough call.
I think others here have got the big picture right in that there were two games going on -- the televised game and the backroom game -- and it was the latter with the DLPs bribing other DLPs with tax money for the opportunity to spend even more tax money that made the difference.
Van| 3.22.10 @ 10:39AM
They want you to believe it cannot be repealed but campaign finance was repealed after the supreme court struck it down as unconstitional. I don't think we even have to go to the courts to declare this a debacle and totally unconstitional on a number of grounds. Now they will come at us with amnesty, cap n tax and begin to start dismantling the military to pay for these massive entitlements. They have read and are abiding by Saul Alinsky's rules for radicals, make no mistake who the enemy is, it is them...
Anthony| 3.22.10 @ 11:03AM
This is classic leftist disinformation ment to dishearten the faithful. Of course the Rs had to attend Obama's dog & pony show, if they didn't, the MSM would have excoriated them for not participating. The Rs acquited themselves very well, as Paul Ryan took it to Obama. It was a lose/lose, because the deck is stacked against us, with the 4 corners of deceit, as Rush has so eloquently put it.
For this White House troll to now claim to have pulled off a rop-a-dope, is raw, amoral politics at its very worse. This White House is completely corrupt.
The Plouffe segment with Rove was pure in your face leftism. His mocking of Rove was the mocking of America by these dangerous ideologues. These dangerous and arrogant fools have no idea what they have unleashed. We will wipe the smirk off their faces, and damn soon too.
darcy| 3.22.10 @ 12:55PM
"T H E S E D A N G E R O U S A N D
A R R O G A N T F O O L S H A V E N O I D E A
W H A T T H E Y H A V E U N L E A S H E D.
W E W I L L W I P E T H E S M I R K O F F
T H E I R F A C E S, A N D D A M N S O O N
T O O."
We're shoulder to shoulder, Anthony.
How's this for a sign I saw yesterday, professionally applied in large block white letters to the back driver's side window of an Suburban:
Organized
Betrayal
Against
Moral
America
Anthony| 3.22.10 @ 2:18PM
MILLIONS of us are shoulder to shoulder now. Try this one: Give us liberty or we'll give you death!!
Norske| 3.23.10 @ 11:10AM
Yea Anthony!! We are NOT wimps - but we are not used to playing dirty politics - so I guess we have to just get more involved in the political realm and not just let the MARXISTS/COMMUNISTS/SOCIALISTS RUN ALL OVER US AGAIN>
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The aftermath | Worth Reading links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Thomas| 3.22.10 @ 12:19PM
There was no tactical advantage for Republican involvement in the Blair House "Conference". They were not going to change the course that the liberal Democrats were pursuing. And the whole format was heavily weighted in favor of the Dem. The President, who ostensibly called the meeting to allow Republican and Democrat members of Congress to work out their differences, did not act as a moderator, but as the chief spokesman for the Democrat health plan.The Dems ignored facts and, when not lying and misrepresenting the facts, refused to respond to the Republicans and launched anecdotal accounts of people who allegedly were suffering because they had no insurance. Then, when it became apparent that the Republicans would not come on board, the President told them that they, and the citizens whom they represented, were irrelevant and to get out of the way.
Strategically, it will hurt the Republicans, because it appears that they are also in favor of significant health care and insurance controls. In the reality of the bottomless vault of internet sound bites, some of their remarks will come back to haunt them. And, there are seven months till the midterms. That is seven months for the electorate to forget the backroom deals, the bribes and the heavy-handed tactics used to pass this legislation. And there will be no observable effect from this legislation until 2011. No downside for the Republicans to point out. And, if the legislation stands, the most of the current crop of Republican Congressmen will not be desirous of repealing it, merely amending it. Particularly, as virtually every Republican member of Congress from John Boehner to Scott Brown has endorsed the idea of "healthcare reform".
Siegfried X| 3.22.10 @ 3:18PM
Avoiding the conference would have been far worse for the Republicans. The Democrats would have said again and again "Republicans won't even talk to us, so we are forced to do it ourselves through reconciliation".
It also held the Republican caucus together. By attending the leadership got to present a united Republican message. If leadership had refused, a couple of RINOs might have attended instead, and had their excuse to vote with the Democrats.
Liberal Reader| 3.22.10 @ 1:02PM
At last! Free drugs for the AIDS I caught while being a roadie with David Bowie and Lou Reed.
Thank you Barack! You're my man!
Caius Keys| 3.22.10 @ 1:19PM
Hey, anything we can do to subsidize your irresponsible, selfish, and immoral behavior, just let us know. Apparently that why we responsible, rule-obeying taxpayers -- that is, "suckers" -- exist in Obama's America. BTW, is _Atlas Shrugged_ out on video?
JJ| 3.22.10 @ 1:12PM
ABC's THIS WEEK is a liberal-Obama-Cheerleading festival.
A conservative on that show is there to get ridiculed.
The post-summit liberal media did not paint Obama as the loser but the winner or it was a "draw" -- even though Obama was a stumbling, bumbling fool that day. Stuck up and dark, a very strange person.
steveb| 3.22.10 @ 1:22PM
My B.S. meter just went off. We were relying on democrats to vote against their party's wet dream. Whether we met with the liar or not did not change the trajectory of this- if the measure had been turned down, they would have simply went with "deem and pass". We did nothing wrong, folks. The American people elected a marxist who will stop at nothing to overthrow our way of life.
Caius Keys| 3.22.10 @ 1:28PM
Take it easy Steve. Even as I type this, Barack Obama is working with employers to lower your insurance premiums by $2500 per year.
Radegunda| 3.23.10 @ 2:20AM
Only $2,500? But he said he would lower them by 3,000 percent. We've got the tape to prove it!
In either case, he was just making it up out of whole cloth.
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They Should’ve Listened to Rush : The Other McCain links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Cincinnatius| 3.22.10 @ 1:36PM
It is time for Americans to decide whether they are to be counted with the sheep or the goats. Will we stand for God's natural law or will we fall for Lucifer's liar? The choices made in the next few months will determine whether America stands or falls. Pray for the beloved country and then fight like hell!
Anthony| 3.22.10 @ 3:19PM
Revolt is inevitable. When the Marxists push us and our Constitution to the brink and we complain, their trolls in the MSM condemn us for our heated rhetoric, call us racists, and claim we are inciting riots.
So I say again, revolt is inevitable, it's what the Left has wanted for decades, and we'll give it to them.
JmsA| 3.22.10 @ 3:24PM
To the rejoicing democrats: He who sows the wind shall reap the whirlwind. It may not happen this year, or next year, but in the not so distant future any and all discontent regarding health care, be it long waits, heightened costs, etc., etc., will be associated to this betrayal of our founding principles.
Caius Keys| 3.22.10 @ 3:31PM
Now it's not a question of if the country goes bankrupt but when. Look at what's going on in California; it takes a special kind of politician to say, "Yeah baby! Let's scale that the heck up!" Of course, maybe national economic death is what the Dems want. After all, how many Republicans are there on the Detroit city council?
Northern Rebel| 3.22.10 @ 3:27PM
Darcy:
You are a true patriot!
Old Tex:
Amen brother! There are many of us that are priviledged, knowing you are in the same foxhole.
useful idiot: #53,437,556:
Do you believe what you write, or are you a brilliant satirist?
William| 3.22.10 @ 3:56PM
I too am a Conservative/libertarian/Classical Liberal like most readers of TAS. I find the passing of this bill to be very disturbing, to say the least. But the most disturbing aspect of the whole thing seems to have been overlooked by most of the other commentators here: Many Americans do want this "Health Care" bill and all this talk about a comeback in November betrays a certain level of wishful thinking (if not outright denial.)
Let me explain. What group was ultimately responsible for the election of Barack Obama? I'll tell you who in case you forgot: Young people who are normally too lazy and distracted to get out and vote. These same young people have been BRAINWASHED their entire lives by the Liberal education/media complex to be in favor of this sort of thing (Health Care). They see it as a good thing. They see it as "progress". They will see more similar measures in the future as "progress". Why would they suddenly change their minds and be against the whole Progressive agenda???
I believe cultures and civilizations (no matter how great) follow the same trajectory as everything else in our world and universe: they appear, they develop, they peak, they decay, they die.
Welcome to the Decadent Phase of American Civilization.
Ken (Old Texican)| 3.22.10 @ 7:31PM
Hi William.
Quoting you:
""I believe cultures and civilizations (no matter how great) follow the same trajectory as everything else in our world and universe: they appear, they develop, they peak, they decay, they die.
Welcome to the Decadent Phase of American Civilization. ""
You are almost quoting the Soviets of the 1970s. Did you know we know that?
Hmmmmm, where are the Soviets, except living in wimpy hearts like yours?
We shall win this war too.
William re: Old Texican| 3.22.10 @ 10:38PM
Well your rebuttal kind of defeats itself.
You're exactly right: The Soviets have been delegated to the ash head of history. By going down the road we are going down right now.
cuban pete| 3.22.10 @ 4:04PM
I just, by coincidence, stumbled across some most interesting ideas. This should be taught in our schools but I'm not sure the concepts would be well received by comtemporary politicians or teachers. In any event this treatise is loaded with great ideas. Among them are the following-"all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator( acknowledgment of a Supreme Being!! wow) with certain unalienable rights- amomg these Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness...
"That to secure these rights Governments are initiated among men, deriving their just power from the consent of the governed.
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive to these ends it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it and institute a new Government....
It goes on but it is all good stuff.
MTB| 3.22.10 @ 4:12PM
We may not be able to repeal this law, especially if the Liar-in-Chief is pres, but what I'd like to see is someone, preferably a Republican, to introduce a bill that mandates this health care bill (soon to be law) and only this health care [law] to apply to all members of Congress, the president, and all cabinet members. Then let's see what the dems do. They can't fight against it because if the bill they shoved down our throats is good enough for us, it's good enough for them, too. If they balk in any way, shape or form, then maybe it will be possible to repeal this travesty and override any presidential veto.
Mary| 3.22.10 @ 4:35PM
Obama has succeeded - in dividing the country even more. He had many opportunities to prevent this divide, but ideology won out. We know who he is without question.
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Blue Stater| 3.22.10 @ 6:57PM
I disagree. I think Obama would have had an easier time passing this if the Republicans did not show at Blair house. By all measures the Republicans argued their case admirably to the American people at Blair House. Had they not attended, Obama would have had tarred them as being too scared to debate the merits of this woeful piece of legislation and would have had an easier time ramming it through.
Noel | 3.22.10 @ 8:02PM
I like Rush, but they were gonna do this if a meteor was approaching Earth.
The unnamed "Democrat leadership aide in the House" is just sowing discord and agit-prop. Don't buy in.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 3.22.10 @ 8:09PM
Since you can't believe anything the Democrats state because they are all liars, how can any Democrat have any credibility on any subject?
East Texas Rancher| 3.22.10 @ 8:52PM
This East Texas Rancher cannot look forward to elections this fall, knowing there won't be any. This dictator in chief and his democratic minions are too smug. This must mean they have instant command over what happens in fall. So ask yourself, why would they act without fear. The poker player's hand book would dictate they know something we don't know.
I suspect this dictator, who plans to remain ruling unendingly, will find a reason, either real or imagined, to declare martial law and suspend all elections. He can and will do this.
Also he has two more sections of fence to erect before fall to have us cattle corralled in. The sections, and I have no idea what order he will do them, is cap and tax and illegal amnesty (with voting privileges, of course), this ensures all those new democratic voters, don't you know??!!!
This man is serious about ruling unendingly. He showed his hand last fall when he got so incensed over the Honduran President's removal from office. He revealed his naked ambition.
We have seen alot in our lifetimes but the dissolution of our country and our freedoms will cause us all to weep and grieve.
When you elect a statist, a Chicago politician, you get a a hideous leader. And he is ours.......
Pray and ask God's help. That is all we have left and that is enough.
East Texas Rancher,
mother of two serving in the military
JS| 3.23.10 @ 12:08AM
East Texas Rancher,
I am afraid I agree with you. We are seeing the end of our republic. You are correct when you call the abomination that occupies the white house as a dictator. He is truly a monster.
However, you hit the nail on the head. God is sufficient. He is in control because He is God and we are not. He knows the 'rest of the story' and we don't, so we have to trust in Him.
Thank you for your service and the service of your children. I say your service because when your children go off to war part of you goes with them. I pray for their safe return in victory.
May God bless you and may God bless the United States.
SoCon| 3.23.10 @ 1:26AM
Bev, Obama can try martial law but it won't work--not against an armed citizenry.
Google "Oath Keepers." This fine organization gives me hope.
God bless you and your family.
Franklin| 3.22.10 @ 8:56PM
This bill passed because Obama wanted a legacy.
He only cares about himself.
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stmichrick| 3.22.10 @ 10:04PM
Let me get this straight; the Plouffe statements were humorous? I guess absurdity usually is.
Hopefully those kind of 'assertions' will be returned in the future with a baseball bat full of context and facts right in the teeth.
Clinton responsible for surpluses? 9/11 and Katrina not factors in massive deficits?
Beam me up.
Carol| 3.22.10 @ 10:12PM
Rush should write a book and entitle it:
RUSH IS ALWAYS RIGHT.
Rush will be known as a great patriot in the annals of history.
Obama will be known as a wanna be dictator that was taken down by the American people. Guarantee it.
Mattled| 3.23.10 @ 1:24AM
I listen to Rush's podcast every day. After the Blair House he said he was wrong and that it would affect his 99.5% accuracy rating.
Bottom line: no one knew what to expect. It could have been worse if they had not gone---we won't know. Just because some unknown aid says that was the point, we take that as gospel?
I never believed it would not pass. Rove said it a few weeks/months ago when you deal with the president of your party and you are the party in power, it is almost impossible to not vote with him.
The 30 or so who didn't vote yes got a pass this time. Next time maybe not.
The goal is to always defeat a Democrat.
Always. Period. End of story.
SoCon| 3.23.10 @ 1:30AM
I agree. Blair House didn't hurt the republicans; in fact, I was quite impressed by their performance.
They were engaged and articulate.
The only ones who can destroy ObamaCare are the PEOPLE!! You and me, folks--roll up your sleeves, we've got work to do.
John H| 3.23.10 @ 9:37AM
Why bother? Plouffe's comments are not humorous, they are accurate. The Republicans destroyed their credibility on fiscal matters under both Bushes.
The GOP has solidly established itself as the tax collector for the welfare state.
Lucinda| 3.23.10 @ 3:10PM
Democrats have established themselves as the Marxist enemy of the American people--you will be punished. The people will prevail.
We will smash your corruption and treason.
Cannonarm| 3.23.10 @ 2:51AM
I agree with many of the comments--the problem with the Republican Party is that we've been running a day late and a dime short for some time now and it will take a tremendous amount of grass-roots effort and traditional political fund raising to re-establish our position. Let's face it--GW Bush squandered a firm Republican grasp on power and did very little to secure that power for the future.
Lucinda| 3.23.10 @ 3:06AM
Bush deserves some blame, but it's going to take more than one man to save this country. Our culture stinks; we need to clean it up.
This one is on us.
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NJK| 3.24.10 @ 12:06PM
I didn't want them to attend either, but I don't by the analysis. I think you are again allowing yourself and others to get sucked into the marxists "we won," mentality. No they did not, no matter what the marxist Plouffe says. They may have thought they did, but America did not, otherwise polling would have reflected that. It just allowed them to believe in what they had intended to do anyway. It sounds like you are believing it because they said it?
That being said, I believe the Republicans should be even more obstructive now. We have an enemy within. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and John Adams would not be working with them, they would be working to defeat them. In other words, we win, they lose!
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Lou Alessi| 6.1.10 @ 8:51AM
Rush is USUALLY right. That being said, we have to ask where we want our country to go. Everything is so polarized right now. Do we want a bunch of eco nuts running things and spending money we don't have on the farce of global warming? On the other hand do we want every Tim, Dick, and Harry walking around with a pistol strapped to their side in an IWB holster at every political gathering? Where's the middle, normal ground?
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