Political Hay
The Masscare Massacre
Massachusetts Treasurer Tim Cahill blows the whistle on President Obama’s health care plan — and Mitt Romney’s.
On Sunday, White House political adviser David Axelrod appeared on ABC’s “This Week” and tried to brush aside the message sent by Sen. Scott Brown’s (R-Mass.) improbable election. “Senator Brown comes from a state that has a health care plan that’s similar to the one we’re trying to enact here,” Axelrod said. “We’re just trying to give the rest of America the same opportunities that the people of Massachusetts have.”
Appearing after Axelrod, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) could barely contain himself. “The American people are getting tired of this crap,” Graham spluttered. “No way in the world is what they did in Massachusetts like what we’re about to do in Washington.” Actually, says Massachusetts Treasurer Tim Cahill, the two health care bills are very much alike — and that’s exactly the problem.
Both health care plans rely on the individual mandate, subsidies, and exchanges intended to match buyers with health insurance plans. “If President Obama and the Democrats repeat the mistake of the health insurance reform adopted here in Massachusetts on a national level, they will threaten to wipe out the American economy within four years,” Cahill said, launching an all-out offensive against Romneycare in Massachusetts and its cousin Obamacare nationwide.
Medicaid costs have continued to explode, rising from $7.5 billion to an estimated $9.2 billion since the Massachusetts health care law has taken effect. More people now have coverage, but of the 407,000 newly insured only 32 percent paid for their insurance entirely on their own. The remaining 68 percent were either partially or wholly subsidized by the taxpayers. Only 5 percent of newly insured Massachusetts residents who are not receiving any taxpayer benefits obtained their coverage through the state’s “Connector” health care exchange.
What’s more, according to figures obtained from Cahill’s office, only 23 percent of those enrolled in the state-managed health insurance programs pay anything toward their coverage. About 99,000 newly insured Massachusetts residents now receive free coverage through Medicaid. Another 87,000 receive 100 percent taxpayer subsidies through the Connector’s “Commonwealth Care” program. And another 26,000 are legal immigrants ineligible for federal subsidies who benefit under the Commonwealth Care Bridge program.
Not only has health care reform cost the state an additional $4.2 billion, but small businesses and consumers are getting walloped. Health care costs continue to skyrocket. Insurance premiums have jumped 12 percent over a two-year period. So much for bending the cost curve.
In a conference call yesterday, Cahill blamed both conceptual flaws in the bill and Gov. Deval Patrick’s implementation. “We haven’t changed the way we deliver health care. We haven’t changed the way we pay for health care,” he said. “Nothing’s changed about the cost structure but we’ve blown a huge hole in the budget to increase coverage by 400,000.” Just more people are being moved into a broken system, largely at taxpayer expense.
Cahill argued that the consequences of repeating this at the national level will be even worse. First, Massachusetts already had a high percentage of its population covered. The 2006 Bay State health care reform only insured another 4 percent. In many states, the percentage of uninsured is far higher. Second, as even critics of Cahill’s analysis of Romneycare acknowledge, Massachusetts has benefited from both subsidies and regulatory concessions from the federal government.
“Who, exactly, is going to bail out the federal government if this plan goes national?” asked Cahill. He implored “the federal government, Democrats, and Obama” not to “make the same mistake we made in 2006.” “There is a reason people in Washington want this pass to quickly,” Cahill continued. “We’re going to be paying a lot more money.”
Reporters asked Cahill for some of the benefits. Did near-universal coverage in Massachusetts bring about a drop in the reliance on emergency room care? No, the state treasurer replied. What about cost benefits from preventive care? Not that Cahill was aware of.
Could it have been better implemented by, say, Mitt Romney rather than Deval Patrick? “I could probably agree with that partially,” Cahill allowed. “I certainly have some concerns about how Governor Patrick has implemented it.” But Cahill called the bill “fatally flawed from the beginning.”
The treasurer noted that the theory was by increasing access, it would bring down health care costs. Instead Massachusetts has seen costs increase almost across the board. Those costs, he said, “are being passed on to businesses and consumers in the form of premium increases.”
Cahill’s timing has as much to do with Massachusetts politics as the looming national health care debacle. Elected state treasurer as a Democrat, Cahill bolted the party last July and is running for governor as an independent — a designation shared by 51 percent of the commonwealth’s registered voters. This stance allows him to outflank the Republican candidates, tap into the sentiment that propelled Scott Brown to the Senate, criticize the Democratic incumbent, and distance himself from his former party.
But by forthrightly attacking an approach to health care reform that has been embraced by Republican darlings, Cahill may be doing conservatives — and the country — a service. “The insurance companies were at the table, the hospitals were at the table, the large providers were at the table,” he said during yesterday’s call. “The taxpayers and small businesses weren’t at the table. It appears to be repeating itself at the national level.”
Massachusetts nearly derailed the federal health care juggernaut once before. It remains to be seen whether Cahill can get that to repeat itself at the national level too.
About the Author
W. James Antle, III, author of the new book Devouring Freedom: Can Big Government Ever Be Stopped?, is editor of the Daily Caller News Foundation and a senior editor of The American Spectator. You can follow him on Twitter @jimantle.
Stephanie| 3.17.10 @ 6:19AM
My God, what are they trying to do to us? Are the Republicans gathering the constitutional lawyers to take this rape of the constitution to the Supreme Court? Especially if they run it through the house without voting on it? WTF is going on here?!!!
fbom| 3.17.10 @ 8:04AM
BOHICA is what is going on. Bend Over Here It Comes Again.
Ret. Marine| 3.17.10 @ 8:07AM
It's called an un-
Constitutional marxist take-over of this Republic with the full backing of the house mouse, piglosie, dungy harry, and the (HMIC) head muslim in charge, obamomma.
Keep the powder dry girl, it will be needed soon.
ggoblue| 3.17.10 @ 8:28AM
i take comfort in your presence here. thank you.
texican that goes for you too.
darcy| 3.17.10 @ 2:20PM
It's a coup, Stephanie; so far, bloodless.
But we're not going to stand by and let this trio of thieves (O.,P.,R.) and their willing accomplices, the stakeholders ("The insurance companies were at the table, the hospitals were at the table, the large providers were at the table," he said during yesterday's call. "The taxpayers and small businesses weren't at the table.), get away with it.
Their will be hell to pay . . . and soon.
darcy| 3.17.10 @ 3:05PM
THERE will be hell to pay.
Mark| 3.18.10 @ 1:06PM
You ALL need to understand that "Law Enforcement" will bow and scrape before their Masters and then do WHATEVER they're told. And just exactly what do you think that Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Napolitano, and Holder are going to tell them?
Old Fighter Pilot| 3.17.10 @ 2:09PM
Amen brother! If you listen closely, you can hear the "Battle Hymn of the Republic" starting to play. I think we are about to start clearing out some of those grapes of wrath in Washington!
Local Observer| 3.17.10 @ 7:13AM
All the basic assumptions of well-intentioned liberals are debunked here. Merely shifting costs of care to others does nothing to contain them. As long as the patients do not have any "skin in the game" they will continue to consume healthcare with abandon because someone else is paying. Their choices will be based on personal convenience, hence the ER volume not decreasing. Let the Congress and the White House learn of this failure and may the American people rise up with their collective "pitchforks and torches" to prevent the passage of this monstrosity on the Federal level.
Warrior | 3.17.10 @ 10:47AM
You also left off that since there is no tort reform, billions of dollars will be spent on defensive medicine that is not needed. Just add 30,000,000 more patients to get uneeded tests. For the trial lawyers, this is a 30 million person expansion of the client base.
Brian H| 3.17.10 @ 6:31PM
I know! Make all the doctors gov't employees, and indemnify them against malpractice suits completely.
Problem solved! Except for all the lawyers who will go on the dole ...
chaussures shox homme | 3.21.11 @ 7:23AM
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moron| 3.17.10 @ 7:32AM
Costs will eventually be contained. In the form of RATIONING !! Services will be curtailed. Your doctor will not be available during office hours or after. Emergency room lines will INCREASE dramatically. For the answers look across the pond. Think those filthy hospital conditions in the teaching hospitals in England won't happen here?? Job creation will remain in the pits as this monster strains this economy forever. Downward spiral folks. And it's all George Bush's fault!!
Brian Mc| 3.17.10 @ 7:34AM
Faith in God or faith in Man...
Too many have put their trust in the government, hence its power exponent over the past four generations has taken us to this monstrosity that threatens our very Republic...at the least, it will bring it to its knees and there is no stopping the camel's nose, now. As far as I know, Grace and Love still flow from only one Entity...the libs have created the illusion that this is a false dogma.
martin j smith| 3.17.10 @ 7:53AM
As others have said it is not really about health care but about political control by the Democrat_Left. This because after health care comes "immigration reform"then cap and trade then ? It is all part of a piece. What many bloggers eem not to grasp is that this is about a "legal" coup. Actually"pseudo legal" wwould be more appropriate. So too that is not about the Republican versus democrat Party, but about the citizen voter versus the state.. This is how iit should be seen. Looking at the fine points in health care legislation is important, but looking at the big picture is more important.
darcy| 3.17.10 @ 2:29PM
Exactly that, Martin.
In one fell swoop, the passage of democrat-controlled medical care would be the last turn of the screw in transforming free citizens into dependents on the state, in making serfs of us, completely UNDOING the Declaration of Independence and essentially making of the Constitution only so many flowery-sounding expectations, now mostly unattainable.
Brian H| 3.17.10 @ 6:35PM
As one ultra-leftie writer gloated, government HC is "very, very, progressive!"
Be afraid. Be very, very, afraid.
MTB| 3.17.10 @ 3:25PM
Reminds me of that saying about throwing a frog in boiling water. If you throw a frog in boiling water, he'll hop out. If you put a frog in cold water and slowly turn up the heat, he'll cook to death. That's what's happening to our country. One step at a time until we have not only lost, but actually given up our freedoms. The liberals blinded by Obama's "greatness" won't realize it until it's too late. God Bless and Save America!
melvin| 3.17.10 @ 7:55AM
Oi Mate, I dunna know why the lot of you are so bloody upset.
Over here in England we have a jolly good public health care.
Where in the world can a person go and be admitted to a hospital and get at least one if not more secondary infections from unsanitary conditions?
The Union hospital staff are so friendly you don't even see them. Then there was the poor bloke who died from dehydration and had to call 999 to the local constabulary to ask them to get him bit of water.
Then there is the every lovely Basildon University Hospital who had 70 deaths in ward of shame: Patients neglected by lazy nurses in a filthy, blood-spattered casualty unit.
Just think of how muuch money old Gordo saved. He saved a lump on that one he did. Seventy people mind you, maybe the staff il do better next month a break a huundred.
Its a good thing that the health care is free, because in a hospital from the US, if seventy people died the hospital would close and the staff would go to jail, but not here in jolly old England. Seventy people die and the staff gets promoted.
But did I tell ya its free, thats the best part. Me and me mates don't care how it comes about, we juust want it to be free,
Oi, its OK though juust as long at ye aint one of the seventy, if you know what I mean.
wodiej| 3.17.10 @ 8:43AM
If they put this through the back door, the American people and the Supreme Court will come through the front door and deem it unconstitutional. Instead of getting a feather in their caps, the Democrats will get pie in their face and a hook off the stage in November. No bipartisan support, secret meetings, bribes and now possibly not voting but saying they did. WTH is up with THAT??
darcy| 3.17.10 @ 2:40PM
We the people Deem demcare UnConstitutional -- this is the rallying cry for November -- whether it passes or not; look at the hell they've put us through. If they think we'll EVER trust democrat, or republican, Leftists with power again, they really don't know the AMERICAN PEOPLE.
Thank you, wodiej.
AND, we're coming after the LEFTIST media next; storm their HQ, massive protests at sponsors/advertisers! This is it, folks; they're going to be hiding under rocks by the time we get our message across: that THEY deliberately deceived the public and failed to do due diligence on their COMMIE obama, just so they could watch us, patriots, be stripped of our birth right. LYING DOGS=LEGACY MEDIA.
George S| 3.17.10 @ 9:05AM
Also, the state of Tennessee's TennCare was a miserable failure for the same reason: cost overruns. The state of Hawaii's Keiki Care Program, ditto. Oregon's program pays for suicide (but they have no death panels, no no) and is cutting coverage and running deficits. What all these plans have in common is that they all attempted to circumvent the most basic laws of economics: there's no free lunch, someone must pick up the tab; if not you then the restaurant owner.
So how does the Obama bill address the shortcomings of these state plans? What are they doing different? That's why the rush and the secrecy: in order to claim that you have found the only single exception to the laws of economics, you have to either show your work or be quick with words. Anyone who has ever visited a used car lot knows that sales technique.
Ned| 3.17.10 @ 10:28AM
I think Oregon did it best though... "we WON'T pay for the cancer meds that might save you, but we WILL pay for the cup of hemlock so that troublesome little you just goes away..."
Ted| 3.17.10 @ 11:01AM
The interesting part about TennCare is that it was killed by Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen, a Democrat. He made his money in the health care industry, and he understands it. Note that no one on the national level has ever asked two of the most informed politicians on health care to create a bipartisan reform: Gov. Bredesen and Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-Louisiana).
Yankeegirl| 3.21.10 @ 7:00PM
I am a Republican and was keeping my fingers crossed that Obama would install Bredesen as Health & Human Services chief in his Cabinet. But the political reality is that Tennessee went strongly Republican in 2008 election and BHO was into payback because "we won."
Jeff Davis| 3.17.10 @ 9:15AM
Once the government controls health care they will be able control the populace by threatening to deny access to it.
crookedwren| 3.17.10 @ 11:06AM
This sentence of yours says it all. This Bill is a mortal wound to the Constitution.
RAMIII| 3.17.10 @ 6:36PM
You are correct, but there's more!
If they can break the rules on this process, there will NOT be anything that will stop them. This one is the watershed.
We will, de facto, no longer have a Constitution and the "Rule of Law" will become a mockery of LAW.
Derek Leaberry| 3.17.10 @ 9:25AM
Mr. Antle discredits his argument by using Lindsey Graham as a rhetorical foil. Graham is a scoundrel whose work on illegal immigration amnesty and demographic revolution will destroy the American nation long before Obama's health program will. Graham, along with Obama, are two of the greatest dangers of America alive at present.
W. James Antle III | 3.17.10 @ 11:30AM
Actually, I thought it was pretty obvious I was using Lindsey Graham as an example of Republican timidity, given his defense of Romneycare.
Derek Leaberry| 3.17.10 @ 12:33PM
I must admit my contempt for Graham is reflexive. I not only despise Graham, I don't like anyone who won't attack him including Jim DeMint, Joe Wilson, the South Carolina Republican Party and the Republican Party as a whole. He needs the Preston Brooks treatment.
darcy| 3.17.10 @ 2:45PM
"Where's our Preston Brooks?"
Like you, I believe Graham to be among the most contemptible pols ever to set foot in DC. Let's make Preston Brooks a household name, shall we?
Curly Smith| 3.17.10 @ 9:33AM
but, but, but... they did bend the cost curve! It went way up!!
And, of course, that was the intent. The only viable option for Massachusetts, and the other states with similar plans, is Nationalized Health Care. They have to either "share the pain" and get other taxpayers to subsidize their taxpayer-subsidized system or drastically curtail usage through draconian reductions in service. But, they can't institute the needed rationing without expanding the system because that would mean that "free" health care failed. Instead, it's just not big enough; it doesn't have a large enough support base.
Bob| 3.17.10 @ 9:55AM
Like I've continually said, the only way to lower health care costs is to ration care. Insurance companies ration care with their policies. The reason costs are up in Mass is that they don't ration care. Until we are willing to let people die who don't have the money for care, we won't get a handle on health care costs. If you are not willing to let Grandma or a 5-year old kid with Leukemia die, then you really think health care is a right and thus should move to Medicare for all.
Why is it that no one here at AmSpec deals with this reality? Could it be that you don't believe in critical thinking? Hmmmm....
Nick| 3.17.10 @ 10:02AM
Pay no attention to 3/5 Bob's comments, folks.
For those who don't know, he is known as 3/5 Bob, because until last June, he thought that blacks had 3/5 of a vote, under the original U.S. Constitution.
He also doesn't know the scientific fact of when human biological life begins because he is unsure of when "ensoulment" happens.
He also claimed he translated the Bible from the original Aramaic when he was a teenager.
He is a pseudo-intellectual and an anti-Christian bigot.
Don't waste your time arguing with him.
The only way to lower medical costs is to make doctors compete with each other in a FREE MARKET.
Bob| 3.17.10 @ 10:08AM
1/5 Nick....
Doesn't know the Constitution....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.....compromise
Doesn't understand science....
Doesn't know anything about Biblical Aramaic....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Aramaic
Doesn't know enough to make any relevant comments.....
Talk about wasting time?????
Hmmm....
Nick| 3.17.10 @ 10:11AM
3/5 Bob,
Thinks the Constitution gave blacks 3/5 of a vote....
Thinks "ensoulment" is a scientific term....
Thinks there are Bibles in Aramaic around to be translated....
Doesn't know much of anything, except how to manipulate economic data....
Doesn't persuade anyone on this website....
Why would anybody read his tripe?
Bob| 3.17.10 @ 10:16AM
1/5 Nick,
Thinks the Constitution doesn't say anything about counting slaves at 3/5th of a regular person....
Doesn't understand the biological growth of an embryo...
Doesn't understand religious beliefs...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensoulment
Didn't even know that parts of the Bible were written in Aramaic...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Aramaic
Doesn't know anything about economics...
Doesn't add anything to this website...
Did he even graduate from elementary school???
Bob| 3.17.10 @ 10:19AM
1/5 Nick, you've proven yourself to be an idiot. Here's what you said:
"The only way to lower medical costs is to make doctors compete with each other in a FREE MARKET."
The median salary for doctors is about $160K per year.
http://www.payscale.com/resear.....ors/Salary
Do you really think that's where the costs are? That's why you are an idiot. Half of Medicare expense is keeping us old people alive longer. The "Free Market" approach means that you will kill Grandma. But then again, you haven't learned how to think yet....
Nick| 3.17.10 @ 10:49AM
3/5 Bob,
The key term in my statement was: FREE MARKET!
No Medi-scare. No Medicaid. No anti-trust exemption. No class actions suits by liberal trial lawyers. No state mandated insurance coverage, like viagra. (Bet your against that one, huh, 3/5 Bob?)
No government interference whatsoever. Except state licensing of doctors, of course.
Is it that you read, and do not comprehend, 3/5 Bob? Or is it that you fixate on one thing, and disregard the rest?
I'm sure you don't know this, because you are so ill-informed, but there are two areas of surgery where costs have come down. They are Lasik eye surgery and plastic surgery.
Why? (I'm sure you're mouthing to yourself.) Because they are not covered by insurance. Doctors have to compete with each other.
JP| 3.17.10 @ 12:53PM
Bob,
You are partially correct. But, I don't think most people are willing to allow the elderly to waste away in cardboard boxes under a viaduct.
Instead, people can find ways to reduce the costs of the services issued to each patient -whether they be doctor costs, hospital costs, radiology, or medicines. These services can be subject to market forces. These reductions would not just be realized for Medicare patients, but to all patients.
However, health care unlike other markets is unique in that the newest technologies and therapies cannot immediately be subjected to market forces. The costs to develope these new break throughs are enormous. People will normally wish to but the more expensive services for the simple reason in that they wan to live. A cancer survivor may face $100,000 in out of pocket expenses, but at least his is alive. For this reason, health care costs will always be rising for the more catastrophic illnesses.
chaussures converse | 3.21.11 @ 7:26AM
you are right
L. Banks| 3.17.10 @ 11:02AM
In the future if no one replies to Bob, he will stop writing unless of course he is a plant and is paid by George Soros or Obama to write on this website.
Obviously Bob does not understand the phrase "What goes around comes around" or "As ye sow so shall ye reap" or that "Words have power" or he would not make statements about opting to kill people or let them die to save money.
Your point is bogus since Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security are run by the government and are riddled with fraud and errors (I worked on these programs for 8 years.) The programs are not run efficiently or effectively. This is the problem with government, a business would never survive if it managed its people and programs the way the government does. The rules and red tape compound the cost to the taxpayer. Also there is a human element relative to the people on these programs. The fact is many of these people lack someone to care for them so they go to the doctor's office to see a face and to feel that someone cares. Grandma and the 5 year old child with Leukemia are not responsible for the excessive cost of health care. Greed is the real culprit. Greed by each individual who runs to the doctor, emergency room for every little ache or pain. Greed by drug companies who want to make more money to continue to do research and to pay share holders. Greed and control by the government to eliminate "undesireables" so more people die and less are born and what happens...we become a third world country or we are invaded by an enemy with more people and more money for weapons and better weapons. Check out all of the European countries who are now below replacement birth rates so they have to import help to do the jobs they cannot do. This has allowed many undesireables to enter the country with an agenda of taking it down or making it into their own homeland.
Another factor to consider is no one wants to give up anything, we all want what we want and will not settle for less. This also forces medical costs up and the supply cannot keep up with the demand so rationing will occur.
Obama health care will sink this country and here are some facts on the financial situation of this country from National Inflation Association:
"The U.S. government this week reported a record monthly budget deficit for February 2010 of $220.9 billion. Total tax receipts for the month were only $107.5 billion compared to outlays of $328.4 billion. The total U.S. deficit for the first five months of fiscal year 2010 was $651.6 billion, with tax receipts of $800.5 billion and outlays of $1.45 trillion. The deficit was up 10.5% for the first five months of fiscal year 2010 over the same period in fiscal year 2009.
We are now at a point where if the U.S. government taxed Americans 100% of their income, the tax receipts generated would not be enough to balance the budget. Likewise, if the U.S. government cut 100% of its spending including defense, but kept paying Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, we would still have a budget deficit. NIA believes it will be impossible for the U.S. to have a balanced budget ever again."
So we are already listing badly and with health care we will sink.
JoshInHB| 3.18.10 @ 12:04AM
Greed is the real culprit.
No the two factors driving all of the problems in Healthcare are:
Consumers don't pay directly for the services they use and providers don't compete for consumer's business. The pre-paid healthcare that we call "health insurance" is a socialized system.
In economic terms, the lack of price signals for the last 60 years has led to massive misallocation of resources.
All of the "reforms" that are being considered seek to further insulate consumers from costs and producers from competition and can only make the situation worse. Much worse
George S| 3.17.10 @ 1:36PM
Medicare also rations with its policies, their denial rate is higher than anyone else (or second place, depending how you interpret denial rates). The reason is simple: money. Government doesn't want to go on record to raise the taxes to fund the program; it is more palatable to cut reimbursements since the oldsters are getting at least something for free. For the same reason, government has no interest in paying for the best care possible. The politicians who enacted the program are long retired and the present generation gets no political benefit by maintaining the system. They are out for fresh electoral blood; they have no interest in being bogged down running an insurance program. That's our future with ObamaCare (think future Congresses are going to care about promises made today?)
In a free market, prices are the rationing mechanisms. You want a family policy that will pay for everything? Then be prepared to pay about two grand a month. Can't afford that? Then you are subject to rationing, i.e, settling for a cheaper policy with higher out of pocket or coverage. Applies to buying cars, houses, first class airline seats, and any other scarcities; things are rationed to those who can afford it. If scarcities such as medical care weren't scarce, then medical care would be cheap and there would be no need for Medicare or health care insurance.
Hardcard| 3.17.10 @ 10:03AM
bernie madoff would be proud of obamasoros !!!
Explosion Proof Light | 11.4.10 @ 12:48PM
The more hopeness, the less displeased. Obama.
Ken (Old Texican)| 3.17.10 @ 10:04AM
Splendid, Bob
Let's ration you first. Where may we send the pill?
Doofus.
Bob| 3.17.10 @ 10:10AM
So, Ken, you are willing to pay for everything for everyone from public funds? I thought you were a conservative, but you are just a bleeding heart liberal who hates black people. Right???
1FreeMan| 3.17.10 @ 11:19AM
Bob-Idiot,
You are just as destructive on this board as the liberals you pretend to hate. You attack everyone and pretend to be an intelictual. Your name calling and arrogance wore thin months ago. Makes me wish we had Bob mathews back... almost. Go hack another website and leave Ken alone. Jerk.
Ken (Old Texican)| 3.17.10 @ 1:44PM
1FreeMan
Thank you.
I do love de-bunking Bob though. So I guess I bring him out to exposure of his silliness on purpose.
He is a coward as well as a liar though. As you may have noted, recently I gave him my real name and search engine "look-up" for thousands of hits on me.
Several dozen members here have looked me up and contacted me direct. I am deeply honored, by the way.
Bob has not chosen to do so, however. That fact confirms my opinion that he is either...either... a congenital liar... or a very very stupid man looking at reality through a kaledioscope.
One thought: If I disappear here....lock and load. I sorta' count on you folks to remember me if the communists, (pardon the shorthand), disappear me. If they disappear me, they will finally disappear each of you.
...heh ...unless youall put them in jail first.
PS: If this site goes down, lock and load...and move NOT to the rooftops and the woods, but to the levers of tyranny.
God bless you sir.
ACynic| 3.17.10 @ 10:06AM
The CPUSA pulled off the perfect coup d'etat in getting the Marxist Leninist Obama elected and having his fellow communist/fascist travelers - Pelosi, Reid, et. al., ram through their agenda, independent of the wishes of the citizens.
Obama, et. al., have imposed a dictatorship on this country, and aim to bankrupt the USA, to cause another crisis in which to force through - by diktat - their tyranny.
martin j smith| 3.17.10 @ 10:17AM
Jeff Davis: you are right on. This is the whole point of this exercise--One Party Rule and government control. That is it.
Cris Worth| 3.17.10 @ 10:29AM
Notice Mr. Grahamnesty jumped right to the defense of Romneycare. Perchance the senator has dreams of a veep spot on a Romney ticket. Mitt needs a southerner on the ticket for a geographical balance not ideological since both men are RINOs and think alike.
Mattled| 3.17.10 @ 11:51AM
Ken (Old Texican),
Agree.
I for one would like to see many Libtard posters exercise their Roe v. Wade rights.
Phil | 3.17.10 @ 12:04PM
"We're just trying to give the rest of America the same opportunities that the people of Massachusetts have."
So it's a no brainer then. Stop this scam, and then let the states decide if they want to do the same for their own citizens (or not)!!! This isn't anything the federal gov't should get involved with.
2Anglico| 3.17.10 @ 1:10PM
I would submit that any nation running a Ponzi scheme like Social in-Security is already broke.
uncle curmudgeon| 3.17.10 @ 1:45PM
This Cahill has caught the Scott Brown effect. He appears to be a Democratic rat who's jumped ship and is now pulling for shore with all his might; a strong conservative wind at his back. Don't back down, Bros! Pour it on, Sistahs
Paul from SA| 3.17.10 @ 1:57PM
Citizens' priorities will be:
1. try, try, try to qualify for free insurance -- lie, cheat and steal if necessary.
2. don't qualify? don't buy insurance and try, try to avoid paying the fine -- lie, cheat and steal if necessary.
3. pay the fine if necessary, but don't buy insurance until you get sick.
darcy| 3.17.10 @ 3:02PM
Good points, Paul. I think the Leftists at the helm of this coup effort via demcare are pleased to contemplate the further eroding of our national character: the temptation to lie and cheat will seem almost honorable, by way of defying a corrupt, tyrannical government. They intend to drag us in the dirt and keep us there.
To wit, Churchill's famous quip: What kind of woman do you think I am?! Churchill: Madam, we've already established that. Now we are haggling about the price. Demcare=the price of your integrity.
Paul from SA| 3.17.10 @ 9:58PM
Defiance. Yes darcy, that's exactly how I am beginning to feel. It makes me not want to pay my taxes.
Steadfast1776| 3.17.10 @ 2:06PM
In an effort to save the postal system the Federal Government has taken the least imaginative approach. Rather than attack cost they raise prices at frequent intervals and have plans to ration mail delivery by discontinuing Saturday delivery. I don't see that they will handle socialized health care any differently.
150,000 new government "healthcare" employees x $40,000 per year = $ 6 billion a year for salaries.
samueleto | 8.12.12 @ 11:47AM
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Becky| 3.17.10 @ 2:40PM
I don't believe Obama will be as successful as he is dreaming about. It's not even really his plan we are talking about, so I don't know why he thinks he'll be a great one termer.
It won't be as bad or as good and each side says. This is a complex system (health care and the economy) and one thing for sure, it won't go as planned either worse or best case. We'll revolt or separate before we go entirely bankrupt. I think this administration has a Watergate or two brewing right now, so that could have an effect.
And those with good health insurance that like to complain about it, will adjust their habits as well.
I'd save a little cash for the times you are really sick and can see a dr. fast. Emergency rooms will still have the cold/flu/boil on my butt people, but they can still triage a true emergency. Money talks and bs (government/insurance redtape) walks.
By the way, if it does pass, it won't be a health care bill for three years or so. It will be a tax increase bill intially, which is what it should properly be called.
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It won't be as bad or as good and each side says. This is a complex system (health care and the economy) and one thing for sure, it won't go as planned either worse or best case. We'll revolt or separate before we go entirely bankrupt. I think this administration has a Watergate or two brewing right now, so that could have an effect.
And those with good health insurance that like to complain about it, will adjust their habits as well.
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Cannae| 3.17.10 @ 8:13PM
From the goings on this week, it would seem we don't have a say in this. Perhaps we should have been screaming a long time ago. Perhaps we should not have accepted corrupt politicians as long as they obtained jobs for our districts. Perhaps we should not have tolerated politicians that had less IQ power than the average squirrel (pardon me squirrels for the insult).
The illegal takeover of GM and Chrysler and the Banks shoud have alerted us but it didn't. Before you hit me on this one, perhaps we shouldn't have accepted the creation of DHS to comfort us from terrorists when none of the other bureacracies worked either. DHS has now recorded over 2 billion cell phone calls and I've heard no one cry for impeachment on that one. Perhaps we should have required Congress to do its duty and declare war before Presidents went off and got us into all of these undeclared wars.
If this madness happens, we have no one to blame but ourselves. We let them stay by refusing to prevent them from arriving. We shout and threaten and attempt to cajole but our voices are not listened to. We believe the press when they provide us label of ironically the homosexual slur of calling us 'Tea Baggers'. I say ironic because if I were to use a homosexual slur towards someone leading the alternative lifestyle, the press would not be so kind to me.
Before you fire at me for being a libertarian or a liberal I am neither. I served my country honorably as a USAF pilot to retirement. I have an excellent education and I think for myself. I believe capitalism has been around so long because it works. I just believe we the people are best served by a government that serves us and not by a government that we serve.
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Franklin| 3.17.10 @ 9:06PM
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WESTMORELAND. O that we now had here
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KING. What's he that wishes so?
My cousin Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin;
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For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
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And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
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He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
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He that shall live this day, and see old age,
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Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
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Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
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What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester-
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This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
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Osamas Pajamas| 3.18.10 @ 2:03AM
The Republicans have the money and the firepower and the lawyers to tie-up this turkey in the courts for years. If they cave - if they give a bloody inch - then the Republicans can drop dead - they'll be useless to the people of America.
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psutopgun| 3.18.10 @ 2:02PM
Just one little nugget on this health care trash. If the bill passes, a survey of doctors said 46% will either be forced out or quit. That along with 30 million more on the Medicaid roles spells DISASTER.
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Philadelphia injury lawyer | 4.17.10 @ 12:09AM
As a Philadelphia injury lawyer it amazes me how people think it is so easy to sue a doctor for malpractice, like ordering a pizza for delivery. Maybe if there were more press and education on what needs to happen before a "med mal" lawsuit can be filed.
Maybe we could spend more time putting safeguards in place so that physicians would either: (a) make less catastrophic mistakes on individuals; or (b) admit that they made a mistake.
In my experience, 9 out of 10 patients who want to sue for medical malpractice have the same motive - "to wipe that arrogant smirk off the Dr.'s face - the one he/she had when telling me there was no mistake made."
Lawyer| 8.12.11 @ 3:46PM
I'm employed with a NJ injury attorney and we've had patients approach us with that exact mindset. One such patient that remains in my memory wanted to sue his doctor because of a "demeaning laugh" he received from the doctor during the course of his check-up. Needless to say he was turned away.
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The interesting part about TennCare is that it was killed by Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen, a Democrat. He made his money in the health care industry, and he understands it. Note that no one on the national level has ever asked two of the most informed politicians on health care to create a bipartisan reform: Gov. Bredesen and Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-Louisiana).
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