Letter From London
The Tzipi Livni Affair
Hamas is allowed to make a mockery of British and international law.
The City of Westminster Magistrate’s Court, located in a nondescript brick building on Horseferry Road, between Vincent Square and the River Thames in central London, has long been proud of its central role in British jurisprudence. Given its geographical proximity to New Scotland Yard, the presence of the Chief Magistrate of England and Wales within its utterly characterless walls, and its jurisdiction over matters of terrorism and extradition, the Magistrate’s Court seems to relish high-profile cases and their attendant publicity. It was unsurprising, then, to learn that it was this court that on December 12 issued the now-infamous arrest warrant for Israel’s opposition leader Tzipi Livni, based on war crimes allegations stemming from the Israeli Defense Force’s 2008-9 “Operation Cast Lead” in Gaza.
Such an arrest warrant was far from unprecedented. As recently as September, pro-Palestinian lawyers sought to have Israel’s Defense Minister Ehud Barak arrested, while military and security officials like Doron Almog, Moshe Yaalon, and Avi Dichter have likewise been forced to contend with similar warrants. To date, these warrants have either been quashed due to grants of diplomatic immunity to serving cabinet ministers (as was the case with the Barak warrant), or are revoked when former officials catch wind of the legal gambit and call off their planned visit. The “Livni Affair” falls into the latter camp; the Kadima party leader was obliged to cancel her appearance at the Jewish National Fund’s Vision 2010 conference in Hendon, and two days later the warrant was abrogated. The diplomatic fallout was inevitable, with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “completely reject[ing] this absurdity taking place in Britain,” while Livni herself insisted that “what needs to be put on trial here is the abuse of the British legal system.” British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and Foreign Secretary David Miliband were quick to apologize to their Israeli counterparts (the judges having acted without the involvement of the attorney general), while certain British human rights groups and leftist newspapers could only lament that they had been denied the long-sought spectacle of a war crimes trial with an Israeli official in the defendant’s chair.
Though the affair amounted to something of a damp squib, with Livni avoiding what some would call justice but what most would call a serious diplomatic affront, the political and legal ramifications will be longer lasting. Seen in purely bilateral terms, the Livni arrest warrant issuance is yet another in a series of events that has served to inflame British-Israeli relations, including a December British Government advisory suggesting that supermarkets could provide labels distinguishing Palestinian and Israeli goods produced in the West Bank, last year’s release of a 2002 dossier that, according to Neil Wigan, head of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office’s Arab, Israel and North Africa Group, appears to confirm the “pre-existing suspicion” that “parts of the FCO are prejudiced against” Israel, all in addition to more substantive geopolitical disagreements over Israeli actions during the 2006 Lebanon and 2008 Gaza campaigns. At least policy disagreements can be attributed to diverging interests, but the attempted service of an arrest warrant on a prominent Israeli politician, indeed the leader of the largest parliamentary faction in the country, creates particular diplomatic obstacles. Even the editorialists at the left-wing British daily newspaper the Guardian have admitted that the most recent dispute is particularly problematic, since, as should be obvious enough, “Britain can not engage with Israeli leaders if they are arrested when they step off the plane.” One imagines it will take some time to repair the bilateral damage resulting from the “Livni affair.”
Yet this storm could easily have been weathered, and the matter of the arrest warrant forgotten (just as the Barak and Almog warrants seem to have been), but for the revelation that the Islamist group Hamas had played a key role in the events that transpired in mid-December. On December 21, the Times of London reported that Diya al-Din Madhoun, a Hamas official, had been tasked with coordinating a legal campaign against Israeli ministers, with “all the political and military leaders of the occupation in our [Hamas’] sights.” “We have provided a group of independent lawyers in Britain with documents, information and evidence concerning war crimes committed by Israeli political and military leaders, including Ms Livni,” Madhoun helpfully elaborated. That “lawfare” is being waged on British soil came, we are told, entirely as a shock to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, which immediately issued a statement that the British policymakers were “looking urgently at ways in which the UK system might be changed in order to avoid this sort of situation arising again.”
Britain, it must be noted, is hardly alone in finding its court system instrumentalized as part of this global legal campaign. Notorious controversies involving universal jurisdiction laws, which allow national prosecution of those alleged to have committed grave breaches of human rights law regardless of the existence of a jurisdictional connection to the prosecuting country, have embroiled diplomats, legislators, judges, and prosecutors all over the world, though particularly in Western Europe. Over the course of the last decade, global powers like the United States, China, and Israel have found their own officials, past and present, subjected to criminal investigations by courts in Brussels or Madrid; Israeli legal advisors have even cautioned leaders against traveling to Britain, Belgium, Norway, Spain, the better to avoid possible arrest and prosecution. Although the threat of diplomatic repercussions, usually by the United States, has heretofore prompted legislators in Belgium and Spain to scale back their legal efforts, it now appears that Hamas, along with sympathetic human rights lawyers, prosecutors, and judges, is escalating its own campaign.
The danger here is readily apparent. The last thing the civilized world needs as it contends with a myriad of thorny diplomatic and international security issues, is, as Evelyn Waugh put it in 1939, the “drying up of civilization” wherein “cracks appear and widen” and “the parched nations shrink away from one another.” Politicized arrest warrants aimed at foreign officials are one type of desiccant that can accomplish precisely that, as even the Guardian was forced to admit. Yet “lawfare” under the guise of international criminal justice is not merely counterproductive; it eats away at the framework of the entire international system. “The respect which is due to sovereigns,” the Swiss 18th-century jurist Emmerich de Vattel argued, “should redound to their representatives,” for without immunity “it would be impossible for nations to cultivate the society that nature has established among them, to keep up a mutual correspondence, to treat of their affairs, or to adjust their differences.” For Vattel, as for every other classical theorist of international law and diplomacy, there was something “sacred and inviolable” about “the persons of ministers.”
Though elite infatuation with the transnationalist Weltanschauung has admittedly eaten away at traditional norms of sovereignty, Vattel’s postulate has not been wholly abandoned. The International Court of Justice, for instance, checked the spread of the application of universal jurisdiction in the 2002 Belgian Arrest Warrant Case, the majority opinion of which emphasized the importance of sovereign immunity for those representatives of the state who “must be in a position freely to [travel]…whenever the need should arise” (in that case one Yerodia Ndombasi, a Congolese official alleged by Belgian prosecutors to have committed “serious violations of international law” and then threatened with a trial in absentia). This of little consolation to those former officials who, lacking such immunity, find themselves “in their own legal black holes,” as the British activist barrister Philippe Sands put it earlier this year when crowing — prematurely as it turned happened — about subsequently abandoned Spanish investigations into American officials accused of complicity in torture. It is in these situations that diplomatic resolution is all the more important, given the natural pliability of legislatures in this respect.
The doctrine of universal jurisdiction has proven relatively uncontroversial when applied to true hostis human generis, the category of “enemies of all humanity” typified by Adolf Eichmann, whose 1961 trial in Israeli was rooted in the principle that a jurisdictional hook should not be required, nor sovereign immunity granted, when the alleged crime transcends all borders and all moral bounds. Indeed the aut dedere aut judicare (extradite or prosecute) provisions of international instruments like the Geneva Conventions appear to require such prosecutions, so as to prevent wrongdoers from falling into jurisdictional cracks. Yet for every seemingly altruistic trial of, say, an alleged Rwandan war criminal in Montreal or Helsinki, conducted with the cooperation of interested nations, victims, and international bodies, there is an equal number of controversial counterparts, like the various Belgian or Spanish investigations into individuals ranging from Norman Schwarzkopf to Augusto Pinochet, or the French proceedings against Rwandan officials that can only be seen as intended to deflect attention away from French complicity in the 1994 Rwandan genocide. The December 12 Tzipi Livni arrest warrant, issued by the City of Westminster Magistrate’s Court, is only the most recent in a long line of such maneuvers, and traditional, as opposed to soft, powers must remain vigilant in this regard.
The open and notorious involvement of Hamas in the British proceedings, however, could prove crucial. Diya al-Din Madhoun was hardly coy about his organization’s involvement in a global legal campaign against Israeli officials, and it is astounding that the Islamic Resistance Movement, a “proscribed terrorist group” in the United Kingdom, should be able to instrumentalize British courts so brazenly and, all things considered, effectively. That this has come to pass should prompt some to question the talismanic properties ascribed by many to international human rights law. As early as 1764 the legal reformer Cesare Beccaria was already chiding those who believed that judges “were the vindicators of mankind [quasi che i giudici vindici fossero della sensibilità degli uomini] and not the guardians of pacts that bind men to one another,” yet recent events show that such criticism, long directed at proponents of a wider application of universal jurisdiction, did not go far enough. The role of that eminence grise, Diya al-Din Madhoun, credited in no small part for the “Livni affair,” clearly demonstrates the glaring flaws present in national applications of human rights law, just as the role of the Organization of the Islamic Conference as “the initiator of this process” (according to OIC Secretary-General Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu) that produced the arguably deeply flawed, and inarguably one-sided, Report of the United Nations Fact-Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict (the “Goldstone Report”), demonstrates similar flaws at an international level, flaws that go well beyond quixotism.
The doctrine of universal jurisdiction is not going anywhere, firmly ensconced as it is in international instruments and numerous nations’ domestic law. Yet the “Livni affair” and the various other similar legal-diplomatic controversies of the last decade underscore both the need to understand what motivates the initiation of such proceedings, and the need to limit the damage they can do. It is no secret that international law is often invoked opportunistically, as well as genuinely or naively, but the basic principles of human rights law are too important for related instruments to be twisted so as to make it “impossible for nations to cultivate the society that nature has established among them,” and even in some cases twisted by those who would destroy that very international society in toto if given half the chance.
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Richard Baker| 12.30.09 @ 7:43AM
Does this then mean that Syria's Assad, Libya's Qaddafi, and Sudan's Omar al-Bashir could be tried and convicted, as well? If these clowns from Hamas want to play the game then let's start indicting and arresting these pissant murderers around the world. Just think of it. The UN building on Turtle Bay empty of most of the "representatives" of the various countries. his would mean that Fidel couldn't come to New York anymore and shop. If Hamas wants chaos then give it to them.
Alan Brooks| 12.30.09 @ 5:31PM
Jews will always be scapegoats because people need others to transfer their hatred to, so they don't hate themselves instead.
A black can be POTUS, but a Jewish person will never be.
david thomas| 6.4.10 @ 11:02PM
Jews were despised in most european countries pre ww 2 due to their financial sucess & control of the economies of Poland, Hungary Estonia Latvia etc. Poles for example were mostly serfs whose overseers were jews acting for the aristocracy. They also largely controlled manufacturing including all distilleries & drinking establishments. Basically feeding off the serfs weakness & ensuring they stayed weak. Additionally they acted as agricultural brokers ensuring profits for themselves & little for the serf/farmer. When the tide turned why would the poles help their oppressors.? The same fate ultimately will occur in the US as it continues to decline and it surely will. The american average joe will turn on the jews who live & socialize in self formed gilded ghettos as always, & thus become obvious targets when the time of reckoning occurs. I also have no doubt the next world war will come from Israel using nuclear weapons in final desperation against its myriad enemies. It basically has no friends except those bought & paid for. This may take 10 years or 100 but it is logically inevideable unless the US disarms Israel of its nuclear capability. A bit of a ramble & of course will be construed very anti semetic by core haunters of this site. But all that I say above is true & logical.
Richard Baker| 12.30.09 @ 7:45AM
Correction:
This would mean that Fidel couldn't come to New York anymore and shop.
Alan Brooks| 12.30.09 @ 5:32PM
Even a woman might be president someday, but not a Jewish woman.
Jack Olson| 12.30.09 @ 7:48AM
If the British feel entitled to arrest and try Israeli officials for what the British consider crimes committed outside British territory, then they must grant that right to Israel and any other country which claims it. Since the Iranian government considers homosexuality a crime, Britain must recognize the Iranians' right to arrest, try and hang any Briton who enters Iran for homosexual acts committed in Britain or anywhere else. If the People's Republic of Oompahpah outlaws left-handedness, then Britain cannot object to the PRO arresting and punishing any left-handed Briton who travels there.
The alternative is to claim "we have universal jurisdiction over every other country's citizens but they don't have universal jurisdiction over ours. Our laws count while yours don't because it is obvious to us that we are wiser and more just than you."
DaveS| 12.30.09 @ 8:33AM
Is this the same British justice system that dealt with Geert Wilders? My, my. Self-defense by armed response is no crime - n'est ce pas?
Dollface| 12.30.09 @ 8:52AM
Actually, in the UK, self-defense by armed response is a crime. There, if someone breaks into your house trying to do you bodily harm and you blow them away, you committed the crime, not the criminal.
DaveS| 12.30.09 @ 12:19PM
By 'armed response' I was referring to Israel's self-defense in responding to rocket attacks originating in peace-loving Gaza.
DaveS| 12.30.09 @ 12:24PM
Or maybe Hamas was retaliating for the Israeli response - ahead of time! [ See inane Colin comments below.]
Colin Dale| 12.30.09 @ 8:38AM
I'm very much afraid that the insertion of the Hamas factor, above, is a 'red herring' intended no doubt to construct a diversion from the essential argument.
That is: should those identified as having allegedly been responsible for authorizing the killing of 320 children and 100 women in Gaza, 12 months ago, be arrested and charged with war crimes.
The contention is that Tziporah Livni, Ehud Bark and Ehud Olmert, were all ministers in the Kadima government that instructed the IDF to kill innocent unarmed civilians.
As we know, the excuse subsequently given by Israel was that the killings were carried out in self-defense. This was categorically disproved by the official Goldstone report.
Therefore, such persons should be liable to arrest anywhere in the world and brought before the International Court.
Interested Conservative| 12.30.09 @ 8:55AM
A little wine with your herring, eh Colin?
Lullaby's, Legends and Lies| 12.30.09 @ 9:21AM
What type of name is Colin anyway? Your parents must have hated you, to stick you with that one. Tell us Colin (ha, ha!!), was Israel just supposed to take being attacked everyday, randomly and do nothing?
loulou| 12.30.09 @ 1:57PM
"Colin's" real name is Abdul.
Margie| 12.30.09 @ 5:49PM
Ha!
Margie| 12.30.09 @ 5:52PM
darn, that was supposed to go under Interested conservative's post.
Fury29| 12.30.09 @ 10:53AM
Colin is one of the useful idiots that Hamas and Hezbollah love. Of course, the old and tired argument is always trotted out that only innocent women and children were killed. Colin, you fail to mention that the "innocent" women and children were killed next to the mortar teams and rocket pods placed precisely in areas where the "innocents" are likely to be when the IDF counter-attack. This is a common TTP employed by Hamas and Hezbollah to illicit the exact reaction from the weak-kneed, limp-wristed, bleeding heart, useful idiot types like Colin.
Ray| 12.30.09 @ 12:08PM
Briton is not an international court, it's is a sovereign nation. Briton has no right to impose it's rule of law outside it's territories, just as we no right to impose OUR laws outside the territories of the US. If Briton feels a need to impose it's will over the the citizens of another sovereign nation, then they they should do what we do, invade.
Any "indictment' and/or 'conviction' that British court imposes upon the citizens of a forgian nation,for any acts committed by that foreign citizen, and here's the really important part, OUTSIDE British territories is merely a show, a play put on to give that appearance of a belief in "justice." That false impression of "justice" is, in fact, UNJUST for it invariably leads to tyranny, as history had shown time and time again.
Hay, Briton, you're NOT the world's court, you NOT the world's enforcer of justice, so stop acing like it. British Imperialism died over 200 years ago. Stop trying to relive past glories by claim legal jurisdiction over the entire world.
Richard Baker| 12.30.09 @ 9:04AM
Colin:
Does this mean that the indiscriminate rocketing of Israel by Hamas, et al is a crime in your book or does a report have to be issued for you to care? Just curious.
Colin Dale| 12.30.09 @ 9:19AM
I do not follow your argument, Richard. Rocketing of civilians is a crime, of course. What has this do with the deliberate killings of women and children in Gaza? Is it your contention that these killing were justified?
FYI, as a former professional soldier for seven years, I can assure you that no army of any democratic country deliberately targets women and children.
If you have any evidence to the contrary, please let us have it.
Fury29| 12.30.09 @ 10:59AM
Which "army" where you a professional soldier of, Colin? Hamas? Hezbollah?
Interested Conservative| 12.30.09 @ 11:10AM
"FYI, as a former professional soldier for seven years, I can assure you that no army of any democratic country deliberately targets women and children."
Huh? Atlanta, Hiroshima, Dresden, Hanoi, to name a few with various characteristics.
The obvious question, of course, is what should Israel do? The even more obvious question is whether there is such a thing as "Arab land". We were the land's before the land was ours, and so forth.
The ultimate question remains, what is western civilization, and why?
ncatty| 12.30.09 @ 11:39AM
Yes, that is the ultimate question. Part of the answer involves the concept of sovereignty. Universal justice enthusiasts do not like sovereignty.
Ray| 12.30.09 @ 12:20PM
"What has this do with the deliberate killings of women and children in Gaza?"
First6 of ll, there was no "deliberate killing of women and children in Gaza." The Israeli military, in an attempt to minimize civilian deaths, told everyone, 24 hours in advance when they would be striking and what they would be looking for. If any women and children WERE harmed, then that's the fault of the TERRORISTS who held them in those areas as human shields. So, your argument is false.
Secondly, the Israeli military entered Gaza in RESPONSE to the indiscriminate shelling of Israel by the Hamas military which is residing within Gaza, This was NOT an unprovoked attack, it was a retaliatory response to the INTENTIONAL targeting of civilians by a foreign military force, powers we refer to as Hamas. Contrary to the beliefs of PLO and Hamas, Israel is a legally recognized independent nation and they have a right to defend themselves from foreign attacks.
So, tell me, who was actually committing crimes here, Hama or Israel?
loulou| 12.30.09 @ 1:59PM
Abdul, this is precisely why you (the Muslims) deliberately hide behind the skirts... I mean, tents of the women. You use women and children as human shields.
To Colin Dale| 12.30.09 @ 11:44PM
Colin, Israel did not deliberately target civilians for death. Look, Gaza is the most densly populated spot on earth --- there are 8,000 people per sq km. If Israel really carried out indiscriminate bombings - let alone bombings which directly aimed against civilians, then 400 civilian deaths is impossible - statistically, the real number should be in the several thousands. Of course it was not because Israel did not target civilians. If you want to make an argument about whether its response in general was necessary and proportionate -- that is something two intelligent people can disagree on and debate -- but quit the nonsense about war crimes and targeting civilians.
Conan the Grammarian| 12.30.09 @ 9:15AM
What I would like to know is: 1. Who were the judges or magistrates who issued the warrants; 2. What is the process for issuing a warrant; 3. Was no one in the Brown government consulted? It seems to me that the Brown government exists for the benefit of radicals of all stripes, most of all Muslims. There will not always be an England, so it seems.
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Tim| 12.30.09 @ 9:31AM
England is becoming a colony of Pakistan.
Galen| 12.30.09 @ 10:37AM
People have short memories: Any magistrate who signs such a warrent should be shot also his family.
Problem solved!
Northern rebel| 12.30.09 @ 12:15PM
Welcome to the future of the American justice system, if Eric Holder, and his ilk, have their way.
The only difference is, he will wield it in such a manner that will make conservatism a crime. They are still trying to find a way to indict Bush, Cheney, and Ashcroft, on some war crime or another.
Holder would indict former government officials, yet lobby for pardons for Puerto Rican terrorists, in order to get votes for Hillary Clinton.
The politicization of our justice system is inevitable, and already occurring in the shadows, and in broad daylight, what with American trials, for illegal war combatants.
The Constitution means nothing to this administration, and they blatantly thumb their nose at it, with this illegal health care bill, and the granting of citizen's rights to foreigners who mean us harm.
They are probably building the gallows for all their conservative patriot enemies as we speak.
Happy New Year!
bobbing above-it-all| 12.30.09 @ 1:36PM
All of the following can logically co-exist:
1. Hamas is a terrorist organization that holds Gaza in bondage.
2. The launching by Hamas of rockets against Israel was an act of war.
3. Israel was justified in invading Gaza to stop the rockets.
4. Israel committed war crimes when it intentionally used excessive force against a noncombatant population for puposes of terrorism, e.g., bombing a school with white phosphorous.
loulou| 12.30.09 @ 2:01PM
It's called collateral damage. If you can't handle collateral damage, then you're fighting like a girl.
Northern Rebel| 12.30.09 @ 2:06PM
All of the following can logically co-exist:
1) The incessant hatred of Israel, and all things Jewish
2) The fact that muslim terrorists are a sub-human species who need to be exterminated.
3) The fact that these Arab animals willingly use peaceful muslims as human shields.
4) There will always be anti-semetic apologists for Islamic murderers, and they are usually following the money.
Colin Dale| 12.30.09 @ 3:40PM
Read the evidence, fellas! I realise that this is a pro-Israel site but that doesn't excuse you. It was the IDF that used children as human shields not Hamas. Absorbing propaganda, like a dry sponge, is not the brightest idea in the world.
Killing hundreds of women and children and claiming self-defense is not only a crime but is also exceedingly stupid. Read the independent report! Oh I forgot, the report wasn't in your favor so you tried unsuccessfully to discredit it.
Interested Conservative| 12.30.09 @ 4:04PM
Does the Coptic Liberation Front agree with the report?
Lullaby's, Legends and Lies| 12.30.09 @ 6:13PM
Chip & Dale: This report you keep mentioning here, was it a U.N. sponsored report (nothing about Israel is independent)? If so, it’s not worth the paper it’s written on, and neither are you Chip. I hope you have a terrible New Year, with bad health, and financial problems to boot. Screw you!! Hamas lover!!
JimE| 12.30.09 @ 5:11PM
Is it Colin or anus-boy, google Hamas human shields you moron and see how many hit there are, go home and insertion C4 in your rectum.
roadmaster| 12.30.09 @ 7:38PM
What about the Brits banning Michael Savage? I'm not too big a fan of his, but he is still on their "no entry" list, and for what? He slams mawslims at every opportunity. Not PC in the UK.
Good one, Tim 9:31AM, "England is a colony of Pakistan." Germany is a colony of Turkey, Belgium a colony of Sudan, France a colony of Tunisia, and on and on.
Stick a fork into Europe - they're done!
Richard Baker| 12.31.09 @ 3:03PM
Colin:
You seem to think that being surrounded on all sides and perpetually threatened with death means that every single act against your enemy must be strictly conducted in accordance with every Marquis of Queensbury rule as determined by whatever international body there is. I suppose that the fear and terror that the Israelis live with is irrelevant. Just so you don't inflate yourself, ask a Tarawa, Iwo Jima, or Okinawa Marine if they defeated the Japanese by the means your type demands of the Israelis. I never see your kind ranting and raving on ever about the depredations of the Arabs against the Israelis, who just want to be left the F**k alone. Obviously, your seven years in service taught you nothing about warfare over the ages. Find me the "perfect" conflict, if you please, and I wonder what your reaction would be if you were in the Israelis shoes.
Joe Hamilton| 1.1.10 @ 8:52PM
Colin; Can the Israelis set up rocket launchers and bombard Londonistan for the vile crimes committed by Little Britain including refusing to allow Jews into their own homeland during the 1930s and 40s? You can shove the Goldstone report up you know where.
Joe Hamilton| 1.1.10 @ 8:54PM
Colin;
You lowly English beasts would have gladly joined Hitler in his world conquest, if it wasn't for Winston Churchill. The King of England was a Nazi. Looks like the Little British have persecute the Jews without Germany's assistance.
Joe Hamilton| 1.1.10 @ 9:02PM
There is one problem for the Nazis from the UK(United Kleptocracy). The Jews aren't defenseless. They are also not Argentina. You and the British deserve a rain of ruin if you insist on persecuting Jews. The UK is much weaker militarily than Isreal. Don't think so. I am in the military and I'm familiar somewhat with the capabilities of Israel and the UK. The UK is just shell of a shell of an empire.
Richard Baker| 1.2.10 @ 9:04AM
Joe Hamilton:
Regarding the English not giving a damn about Hitler, the famous Oxford Union Debate Resolution of 1933 comes to mind. Yes, they eventually did fight for "King and Country" but I'd imagine that Herr Hitler and the Duce were heartened and encouraged by the Debate outcome. We seem to have the same Debate mentality brewing in America.
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You can see how to do this in the videos, but basically you need to jump up when the Hydra is about to strike. PoptropicaHe will rear one of his heads back to attack and his eyes will bulge out. When this happens, jump up in the air and then try to land on top of his head. That head will get knocked out. When all five heads get knocked out, the Hydra will be asleep and you can click on him to get one of the scales. Poptropica
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