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Big Government Bureaucracy and Runaway Federal Spending
The bill proves the Republicans so, so right in their argument that the Democrats are the party of Big Government bureaucracy and runaway government spending. The bill would create close to 100 new bureaucracies and government programs, and spend $2.5 to $3 trillion over the first 10 years of full implementation.
We can't pay for all the entitlement promises we have already made. But instead of trying to fix that, the Democrats are pouring gasoline on the bonfire in this bill. It would expand Medicaid to another 15-20 million people, adopt an entirely new entitlement subsidizing the purchase of health insurance for families making as much as $96,000 in 2016, and add still another entitlement for long-term care.
The central promise of President Obama's campaign last year was that he wouldn't increase taxes "in any form" on those making less than $250,000 per year. But the health bill includes increased taxes on health insurance, drugs, and medical devices that will be paid by consumers. It also imposes a mandate that individuals must buy insurance and pay the soaring costs, or else pay income tax penalties. If President Obama signs this bill violating his central campaign pledge, wouldn't it be reasonable to ask him to resign now, instead of waiting another 3 years to vote him out of office?
All Completely Unnecessary
This government takeover of health care, government health care rationing, higher health costs, exploding bureaucracy, runaway government spending and record tax increases are what the supposed moderate Democrat and blue dog frauds are now supporting. That includes Senators Evan Bayh of Indiana, Blanch Lincoln of Arkansas, Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Jim Webb and Mark Warner of Virginia, and other phonies who have duped the voters of their state. Worst of all, the health bill's broad sweep of runaway government is all completely unnecessary to achieve the supposed goal of ensuring essential health coverage and care to everyone, which can actually be done far better with a true health care safety net.
Only about 12 million uninsured Americans arguably cannot afford health insurance today. The rest are already eligible for government coverage, or employer coverage, or make over $75,000 per year. We already have a government program that is supposed to provide health coverage for the poor, Medicaid, with costs soon approaching $500 billion per year, and exploding in future years. Reform Medicaid to provide assistance to buy health insurance for all of those who can't afford it today. This could be done for relatively little in additional costs. Yet all of the poor would be much better off, because they would enjoy the same health care as the middle class, with the same private insurance, freed from the Medicaid ghetto where almost half of all doctors and hospitals won't treat them because of the low compensation paid by the government.
Back this up with state uninsurable risk pools for those who nevertheless do not buy coverage and become too sick to do so. This would ensure that everyone has some place to go for essential coverage and care in any event. The insured would pay what they can to such pools based on their income, with the state covering all remaining costs. Few actually end up truly uninsurable, so this ultimate safety net can be provided at relatively little extra cost as well.
The law has long provided that insurance companies cannot cut off those they have accepted for coverage once they get sick with expensive conditions, absent fraud in the original insurance application. That would not be true health insurance protecting against unexpected health costs, like fire insurance that can be cut off once your house catches fire. This law was federalized under the Kennedy-Kassebaum legislation in the mid-1990s. To the extent there are any loopholes, they should be closed.
For over 25 years, John Goodman at the National Center for Policy Analysis has articulately advocated these and other reforms liberating patients to exercise maximum freedom and control over their own health care, doctors and hospitals to innovate to provide better and lower cost care, and employers to provide better deals to their workers at lower costs. Jim Frogue at Newt Gingrich's Center for Health Transformation, Merrill Matthews at the Council for Affordable Health Care, and Greg Scandlen at the Heartland Institute have similarly provided innovative, pathbreaking leadership on health policy that would truly help working people and the poor on health care.
But instead the American people suffer with too many Democrats in power who don't understand any of this, and won't listen to any new ideas from anybody. Harry Reid clearly has no idea what he is talking about on the issue. Nancy Pelosi as usual is lost in her own dream world. Florida Congressman Alan Grayson and Rhode Island Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse cannot even talk sensibly on the subject. Only the American people can fix this, and they can start by demanding resignations from those who have not been honest with them. This includes those who now plan to vote against the bill after voting for it, claiming they were against it all along.
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Ret. Marine| 12.23.09 @ 7:09AM
Yeah and when this person, who happens to be the speaker of our House, said she would ( in 2007, Jan) lead a more ethical and transparent CONgress than before, I bought into this bullsheet too, NOT.
So yeah lets assume that the "won" deserves a B+ for his performance and all of us "tea-baggers" are nothing but a bunch of confused children for which the state to reprimand, coddle, and directed unto our untimely deaths just so some of the gubmint teet sucking morons have a job. I guess we should feel some love coming from these morons afterall they just care sooooo much for my health and welfare, right? wrong in a massive way.
I am trying to understand if they truely have a death wish or is this a case of stupidity on steroides. I'd like to think the latter because God himself knows I've seen enough action in my life and if I am to undertake such action again in my life time it will not be because I want to, rather they will have forced me to. Am I the only one who despises people who force me against my will to take drastic actions against them, I mean it's only about my freedom, liberty, my choices, and my love for the greatest experiment of the human cause ever before known to mankind that egg's me on.
In some ways I feel sorry for these poor fools, they don't have the common sense God gave a goose, the spine of a man, or the wisdom to know if you put a gun to my head, you had better use it because I will not afford you a second opportunity to threaten me, ever again.
It's just a tiredd and old sceme when Dem's are in power they forget the human side to their story, at the same time think We the People don't have the guts to do something about, and that my friends will be their fall.
Al Adab| 12.23.09 @ 10:32AM
You do have to admit that Pelosi's reign is transparent. Every bribe in the House and Senate is on the front page. As they say we now know what they are, we're just negotiating the price.
That our government has come to this is despicable. Semper Fi
Franklin| 12.23.09 @ 2:05PM
We the people have been trying to do something but we are just ignored. Our reaction to 'fight or flight' is FIGHT. But when our 'punches' are met with thin air (ignoring our email, calls etc.) we feel the nightmare worsening and we can't wake up. So what do we do?
What we can do NOW:
1) If you are employed, increase the number of dependents to decrease the amount of taxes taken from your paycheck. When April 15th arrives, do NOT pay your taxes. If you feel you must pay your taxes, (like I was last tax day – I was too chicken), at least you deprived the government use of your money from now till April 15th.
2) Be included in the January 20th protest. Do not go to work, school or whatever. Stay home with your family and do NOT a) use your phone, b) drive anywhere, c) purchase ANYTHING (this includes the internet) and d) watch television. Instead, read a book, play games, talk.
3) Join a local Tea Party.
4) Continue the emails, calls and faxes to Congress, Obama, and the media.
5) Pray.
6) Anything else?
c. j. acworth| 12.23.09 @ 6:02PM
7. Stock up on ammo.
Ret. Marine| 12.24.09 @ 6:08AM
m6) anything else?, yes, re- educate yourself on the book "Roberts Rule's" Constitutional meaning and law, Militia's, States rights and duty. Start petitions for articles of impeachment on any Law maker in your district who clearly violates their Constitutional Oath.
Ret Air Force| 12.23.09 @ 3:19PM
Great comments Ret Marine (Semper Fi). As for Pelousy, she told the Republicans who reminded her about transparency and the "one's" promise to be bipartisan, "Um, there was an election, and we won." IOW, "shut up and take it."
glassfinger| 12.23.09 @ 5:14PM
I, too am former military, 1st Lt., MACV, Central Highlands, 1969-1970; tour with the 1st/32 Bn., 7th div on the 38th Parallel in S.Korea the year before that. I've taken 'the oath' twice, proudly, the same one this clown flubbed. It galls me in an extremely personal manner that he even attempted to mutter the words, knowing how much he detests the document he swore to uphold and defend. We who once wore green suits and carried weapons know that we were always the last option-we're the ones who get the job when the talking stops. There are a lot of us out there who know how; if need be, we will do so again, but only if we have no other choice. We are a representative republic, still, and we'll try the ballot box. But 233 years ago it was gentlemen with guns who made this the greatest experiment in freedom history ahs ever seen; if it comes to that, it'll be gentlemen with guns who put it right, once again.
C.K. Amos| 12.23.09 @ 9:19PM
Thanks for your service. Welcome home.
You're right about the "gentlemen with guns" or the former wearers of green uniforms and what all of them--or us--may or will do.
I've a uncle who was a Marine in the South Pacific during World War II. He went ashore at Peleliu on D+2. He's also THE textbook definition of a Yellow-Dog Democrat.
But even he now believes, though he's been reluctant to admit this, that it appears the only way we are to reclaim our country is through armed revolution, should the ballot-box remedy not work or be thwarted.
My uncle said he's never seen anything like this before, with Congress ignoring and dismissing people, with such an anti-American in the White House.
As Ret. Marine said--thanks for your service, too, sir--"It's just a tiredd and old sceme when Dem's are in power they forget the human side to their story, at the same time think We the People don't have the guts to do something about, and that my friends will be their fall."
They don't think we the people will act. They're counting on that.
But they're in for one huge surprise, perhaps sooner than they expected.
And, yes, LT glassfinger, I, too, was galled watching Marxist Obama stumble over his oath. It sickened me.
This serial liar Obama sullied it and the service of any man or woman, living or dead, who's ever honorably served. But, then, those words were just words to him, means to an end.
Whether he likes it or not, he and the Democrats, liberals and leftists will see that words have meaning. And that freedom is more precious to some Americans than he and his fellow travelers could ever have imagined.
hunter| 12.23.09 @ 7:28AM
No more voting for the 'man'. I can see that don't hold no water. We have to vote for the party. The democrats have proved that the 'man' will forget his people, promises, values and fall on the curved islamic sword for his master, and mistress.
Road Kill| 12.23.09 @ 8:21AM
"I'm from the government (insert agency name here) and I'm here to help you." How many times have we heard that statement, and wound up being lost in multi-page forms, spending extra sums to meet their requirements before assistance is delivered if any, and essentially chasing a rabbit around a tree. The health care reform bill is just that. Remember the Dept. of Energy? Founded by President Carter way back when. And we've yet to be energy independent. Johnson's War on Poverty? And there's more poor people now than ever before? Temporary sales taxes that are never temporary? The list goes on and on. This time Congress has stepped over the line. They have assumed the title of God. Since Roe vs Wade they have been allowed to tamper with who is born. Now they can say who dies, who receives medial treatment, and how much will be spent. (Posting on this site may land you on the A list for withholding health care.) One way or the other death is on my schedule, and I'd prefer to pick the time for that to occur. It is not for pencil necked, holier than thou lawmaker types to decide.
michigander_sandusky| 12.23.09 @ 8:28AM
I noticed that the buttwipes on NBC, CBS, and ABC made no mention of the prostitutes like Ben Nelson in our great Senate who sell out the American people for 30 pieces of silver.
Lazy Jack| 12.23.09 @ 9:00AM
Too Many Democrats in Washington? Of course. And, for far too long. See the excerpt from an old blog post (November, 2008) below:
Since 1932 the republicans have controlled the House of Representatives for all of fourteen years and the Senate for twenty. That’s 18% of the time in control of the budget and the right to declare war. It is clearly all their fault. Well, at least two trillion of the eleven trillion in debt is theirs for the blaming, as are the 4,200 dead and 31,000 wounded in Iraq. All the other wars declared under the Democrats’ watch since 1932 only killed 506,000 U.S. soldiers and wounded 927,000 others. But let’s face it, all that is old news and has nothing to do with the CHANGE about to take place.
Early this year James Carville wrote the book “40 More Years.” He argued that finally democrats would control congress for a meaningful amount of time and that the dopes (his worldview) on the right would finally give up all their evil power. In truth, Democrats have owned Washington for 78 years. Yet, they act as if they are the aggrieved minority always fighting for the little guy. And guess what, the public swallows it. 78 years, $14 trillion in debt, high unemployment, three bloody wars, an increase in healthcare spending from 5.6% of GDP to 17%; all based on their legislative policies. And it took Republicans to finally help enact the civil rights legislation during a period of Democratic majority in the sixties. But ignore those pesky little facts. The Republicans, they are the black hats. Yeah.
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MTB| 12.23.09 @ 3:23PM
Right on, LJ. Problem is, when Republicans are in power, they try to get along with the Dems instead of leading with conserative values. WHEN conservatives are in power again, they need to tell the Dems "Screw you, you ran our country into the ground, now we're going to fix it and we don't give a rat's behind whether you like it or not."
Howard| 12.23.09 @ 9:07AM
I had bought into the jive that the "Blue Dog" Democrat "moderates" made the Democrats more inclusive, having a broader spectrum than the GOP. I now know this is baloney. Both Nelson's, Lincoln, and the scum House Democrats are really MINO (moderate in name only). They vote a straight party line, the same as Pelosi. At least that witch is honest about her political beliefs. The MINO's campaign as moderatyes, but, once they get their fat butts in D.C. they show their true colors.
Michael Tomlinson| 12.23.09 @ 9:37PM
Howard I'm glad you see the light. Remember a blue lapdog = a cowardly yellow dog.
Jim O'Brien| 12.23.09 @ 9:36AM
If medicine had been left to free enterprise, we would all have the latest medical "Mac" by now. Instead, we are stuck with the equivalent of Windows Vista, and worse.
Medicare and pervasive federal legislation such as the HMO Act are the problem. They kill innovation and distort the entire health care market. More government medicine will kill the patient.
Free enterprise competition invariably results in higher quality, a wide range of choices, lower prices, and easy access. But Obama and his fellow Socialists in Congress are opposed to capitalism and freedom. They don't want us making key decisions about our own health care, our own bodies, our very existence.
Guy| 12.23.09 @ 2:58PM
And if the Health Care proposals pass, we'll all be retrofitted to a TRS80 (if we're lucky.)
R Martin| 12.23.09 @ 9:49AM
Washington is all about money--the people, the programs, everything. All the things we whinge about here will never be fixed until the money is seriously controlled. Here's where I'd start: the pay and perks of all members of congress would be fixed at some figure then reduced each time they pass new legislation (perhaps proportionally based on the size of the bill, e.g. a 2000 page health care bill is really going to whack your pay) and increased each time existing legislation is repealed. Far fetched, I know, but tell me it wouldn't work to cure the sort of excesses we loathe. It would also attract a different sort of person to politics, which is also sorely needed.
Merry Christmas to all.
P. Aaron| 12.23.09 @ 9:50AM
The leftists' goal here is to grow and amass power in a centralized government. Sure, they may take some temporary losses, but the damage will be done, unless the Right shows enough muster to fight and REPEAL this (among other) un-Constitutional montrosities.
John Navratil| 12.23.09 @ 10:18AM
"The bill proves the Republicans so, so right in their argument that the Democrats are the party of Big Government bureaucracy and runaway government spending."
WRONG!
Conservatives have been screaming about profligate spending for years, but John Cornyn and his ilk throw their support behind Arlen Specter and Charlie Crist.
My fear is that the Republican will interpret a backlash as a mandate for business as usual.
Support the conservative candidates and ignore the party. Until the Rockefeller Republicans get some respect for conservatism this party should not be supported with donations.
Al Adab| 12.23.09 @ 10:37AM
You are arguing both sides. The GOP is in the hands of the RINO majority and not in those of the Conservative Movement. Until and unless we restore control to the Movement, the GOP will continue to disappoint and to fail.
Conservatives are not congruent with Republicans. You can tell them apart by their works. No longer will Conservatives settle for the lesser of two evils or second best. NY-23 may be the most significant event in recent years. Better to stand for principle and lose than compromise away our values for the sake of a seat. After all, then the Left will get the blame and we, like Cato, will be long remembered for opposing tyranny to the death.
JP| 12.23.09 @ 11:03AM
Al Adab,
RINOS dominate because there just aren' that many conservative voters in the US. Look at the Senate and look at all the potential seats the GOP may recover next year. Do not think for a minute that a Jessie Helms type of conservative will win in New Jersey, Conneticut, Delaware, New York, or California. Ditto for Colorado and South Dakota. The voters, until recently, voted in the government they liked.
In short, there aren't that many conservative voters outside the Deep South. But, I have a feeling that is about to change.
John Navratil| 12.23.09 @ 11:09AM
Al Adab,
I don't think I am arguing both sides. The GOP works at promoting candidates and supporting them with donations from the like-minded. As long as the party is doing a good job of promoting conservative candidates and principles those donations should flow. When the party does not, as is my view, the highest and best use of money is in direct support of conservative candidates. This is not to destroy the party, as I believe a third party would be a disaster, but to discipline it.
Nothing would please me more than to see the party return to its small government roots. To those that say this is a recipe for remaining out of power (Newt, e.g.), I say that I disagree and also that I would rather stand in opposition than in an unprincipled majority which gets us to the same place just, perhaps, a bit more slowly.
Al Adab| 12.23.09 @ 2:36PM
You are correct, hence my reference to Cato. It is only when the Conservative Movement dominates the GOP that the party has success ie 1980, 1994.
Nominating Leftists as Republicans accomplishes nothing witness Scozafava NY-23. In AZ -1 last year the primary selected candidate was not funded by the RNC as they didn't approve the person. Guess what won. What kind of party is that?
Whether as JP says a Conservative is electable in Jersey is of little import. Those in the various People's Republics of our states deserve what they get. What the problem entails is that from the Federal level all of the rest of us go down with the ship too. The South and West could dominate if they remain true to principle above all else.
Thanks for your response. A good conversation.
Tim| 12.23.09 @ 11:05AM
the problem is not that there are too many dems now or at times too many reps in DC.
The problem is, has been and always will be that there is too much corruption.
As the old saying goes.......Money Talks and Bull S__T walks!! just ask Sen. Nelson.
Richard Baker| 12.23.09 @ 11:44AM
I find it amazing that the Congress is full of millionaires who want riches for themselves but seem determined to deny same to everyone else. Next time I see my Congressman or either of the Senators, I'll ask them what their net worth is.
Wankel| 12.23.09 @ 12:19PM
Roland Burris' little parody on "The Night Before Christmas" was not only obscenely surreal, it probably represents his most useful output to date. However, it's not just the Democrats. The usual stable of "My Good Friend" RINOs needs thinning also, starting with Mitch McConnell, whose response to Reid's Rodney King moment was equally infuriating. And how ironic to see John McCain's fighting spirit after he loses the election. Duds, every one of them...
Ken (Old Texican)| 12.23.09 @ 1:19PM
The Old Texican here with an announcement.
There is going to be a HUGE Freedom Rally in and around Daytona Florida on February 27 and 28, 2010. To graphically demonstrate freedom, almost NOBODY is going to wear a seat-belt.
You read correctly! The reason of course is that the freedom riders will be riding motorcycles. Heh!
I don’t know if any of you have ever been in a country mile of a bike rally, but believe me when I tell you…you can hear them for a lot of country miles. This time the roar will be heard all the way to Washington DC. I heard about the rally from a Viet Nam veteran. It turns out a LOT of the riders are going to be veterans. They are coming from all over the country. Many of them are really excited about rubbing shoulders again with their comrades who “have been there-done that”.
Along with those veterans are going to be the free-est of their free fellow Americans who demand the right to strap on a big-bike and hang it out there. …seatbelts not included.
Hah! I don’t expect any little wimp snarks will tossing around the “tea-bagging” epithet down there either. I personally plan on being extremely polite, because I don’t particularly care for certain sandwiches.
From what I understand, one of the coolest activities that will be going on, is the planning and scheming for additional rallies in key locations all across the county.
My personal lobbying will be for Washington DC, and the media headquarters in both New York, and as many major TV affiliates in major markets as possible.
When a hundred thousand big bikes hit DC believe me, they will “literally” shake the foundations of our renegade government. Man, I can picture it now: at the exact moment when all those bikes go quiet at the same time. ..a hundred thousand voices roaring “OK, CAN YOU HEAR US NOW?” “YOU ARE FIRED!”
info@bikeweekfreedomrally.com and http://judgeroy.wordpress.com
RAMIII| 12.23.09 @ 1:38PM
What makes anyone think they will be able to get President Obama to "resign" because he defrauded the voters in question? He was appealing to individual greed to affect the collective outcome.
Furthermore the Republicans WERE different only in the speed at which they were arriving at the same end as the current Democrat controlled Administration & Congress. They played the same games in the past and pork billed their own little back yards. This is why their protests now ring hollow. The Republicans got sucker punched here.
The only thing that will reverse this terrible (human suffering and death) legislation is outright revolt at the ballot box in 2010 and beyond.
I doubt that will happen, because there is precisely the problem that more and more people are the frogs in the slowly heating pot (i.e govmt hand outs).
I wonder how the German people before and during WWII rationalized the legislative moves of Hitler, before his Facist policies started eliminating their neighbors, etc.
I have heard it said that this fiasco of a bill sets up "health care competition between individuals for proper care, rather than between insurance companies for your dollar". I believe that this characterization is accurate.
I tremble for our great nation.
When we decided that abortion on demand was a right of "choice" in the late sixties/early seventies this course was for all intents and purposes inevitable.
When you de-value life, nothing else means much either except "might makes right".
Jonah preached to the Ninehvites against his own will and they repented, I hope and pray that it is not to late for us. However we have shed a tremendeous amount of innocent blood.
Real Conservative| 12.23.09 @ 9:40PM
You must be a blue dog or one of those who got fooled and voted for Obama, because Republicans were profligate spenders.
RAMIII| 12.24.09 @ 12:26PM
Did you actually read the above or click on the wrong "reply to"? I held my nose while I voted for McCain -- and that only because Palin brought some life back into the stalled campaign. Unfortunately McCain merely used her (being the DC insider that he is).
RAMIII| 12.24.09 @ 12:28PM
OOPS -- mis-spelled FASCIST
Oldefarte| 12.23.09 @ 1:42PM
As interesting/informative as this editorial is, the fact remains that Democrats' [for decades] one and only political goal was/is to provide WELFARE to their mostly indigent constituents, in return for those indigents' votes. This we have free healthcare, free public schools, free public transportation, free food stamps,etc [for all except American workers, business owners, and taxpayers who are forced to pay for said FREE STUFF]. It forced charity, whether the taxpayer wants to pay for/give or not. We must, must, must begin electing congressmen that pledge to attack/lower our federal governmental expenses [as opposed to raising taxes for budget balancing] if we are to survive as a nation!!!!!!!!
Dean| 12.23.09 @ 2:02PM
Democrat politicians are like mosquitos: They make annoying buzzing noises, suck the blood out of people, and leave death, disease, devastation, and despair in their wake. There is no more useless--yet no more dangerous--creature in the universe than a Democrat politician.
ccc| 12.23.09 @ 2:27PM
The minority has no rights. If you don't want your taxes paying for someone elses health care or christmas decorations, tough. You should have earned some capitol to spend.
JP| 12.23.09 @ 2:41PM
It may no matter if there are too many Democrats or too few Republicans in office. One thing for sure is there is way too much taxpayer's money there. The Beltway before 1933 didn't exist. The late David Brinkley describer Washington DC in back in the old days as a sleepy southern town with lousy restraurants and too provincial for a capital of a major city. Four trillion dollars of taxpayers money changed all that.
Things will come to a head very soon, and I just don't mean politically. Socialists, neo-fascists, and progressives can only exist in its modern form as long as there is wealth to steal.
In 207-2008 the Gravy Train left the station. This generation of progressives, socialists, and neo-fascists are just cleanning the bones from a long deceased carcass. ObamaCare is to the Dems what a last meal is to a death row inmate . Enjoy it while you can -gourge yourself, because the Piper must be paid very soon.
Ken (Old Texican)| 12.23.09 @ 3:08PM
HOLY MOLEY!
I did not see this until a few minutes ago. a cop-paste from Rush's website...from yesterday's broadcast.
I'm thinking about Tom Friedman. This little punk who goes over to Copenhagen talks about how wonderful Copenhagen is comes back here and describes what a rotten place we are, it's like leaving the Jetsons and returning to the Flintstones. Friedman is the perfect example, folks, of a statist. He's wealthy -- he married into his wealth, by the way, he married into it -- he lives on several acres on an estate. He travels the world on an expense account. He eats the finest foods. But he doesn't produce anything. It's like Obama. He produces nothing but words. He appreciates nothing. He acts like he's leading some kind of revolution against the very society that enables a person like him to succeed, totally ungrateful for what this country has made possible for him. He hasn't produced diddly-squat. He's out there thinking he's leading a revolution, one of the smartest guys walking the planet. Copenhagen, yeah. That's the Jetsons. Flies back to Newark, why, that's the Flintstones.
The straw that broke the Founding Fathers' backs. The Intolerable Acts of 1774. When you listen to this stuff, these Intolerable Acts, this is the stuff that broke the camel's back for the Founders. This makes what's happening today seem like child's play. "The British government responded by passing several acts which came to be known as the Intolerable Acts, which further darkened Colonial opinion towards the British. They consisted of four laws enacted by the British parliament. The first was the Massachusetts Government Act, which altered the Massachusetts charter and restricted town meetings." That ticked them off. That's why freedom to associate is in the Constitution, because it was restricted. "The second Act, the Administration of Justice Act, ordered that all British soldiers to be tried were to be arraigned in Britain, not in the colonies." That ticked 'em off. "The third Act was the Boston Port Act, which closed the port of Boston until the British had been compensated for the tea lost in the Boston Tea Party (the British never received such a payment)." That ticked them off. "The fourth Act was the Quartering Act of 1774, which allowed royal governors to house British troops in the homes of citizens without requiring permission of the owner."
Those were the four things that sent Founding Fathers over the edge. They already escaped for freedom of religion. So that was already in the deck. Now, these things seem like child's play compared to what is happening today. And people ask me all the time, "Rush, do you think that there would ever be a revolution?" Let me just tell you this. Here's the third AP headline, Snerdley. I do think the American citizens and their anger is going to translate into some sort of citizen action. You can feel it percolating in every one of these phone calls that we've taken for the past six months here. Rebel, maybe, I don't know how it would manifest itself. Firing people, laying people off, not paying taxes, it could be any of these things but it's going to be something huge. I don't pretend to know what it is. But with all of the millions of Americans out there asking, "What can I do?" Snerdley, tell me the truth, every call, if you chose to, you could have put up there for the past two months, "What can I do?" Every single call could have been, "What can I do?" Everybody out there wants to know what they can do, and at some point this is going to translate into action.
Fourth AP headline tonight: "Limbaugh Calls for Obama Overthrow Amidst Economic Recovery." They'll throw that in there. Everybody asking, "What can I do?" The fact that so many people are asking the question will produce the perfect response, and it's going to be some sort of refusal to obey. It's going to be rooted in some sort of refusal to obey some of these un-American dictates that are being called health care legislation, Senate health care legislation, cap and trade, whatever it is. You know, we had the Rock the Vote video, the audio yesterday. Let these little young socialist youth out there, let them go ahead and withhold sex from people who oppose health care. The adults will withhold consent of the governed. That's what we're going to do. You know, let 'em go around there with Susan Sarandon's daughter playing games with withholding sex and so forth. (interruption) No, no, no, that's what she did. She and some stupid hare-brained actor have cut a video for Rock the Vote and they basically tell people who don't support them on health care they're going to be frozen out of the bedroom and they're advocating everybody do that. Fine, you go play those games. We will withhold the consent of being governed.
Wow! read the whole story at rush.com
JohnR22| 12.23.09 @ 4:19PM
You forgot to mention Friedman's recent article in Newsweek where he actually said (referring to China) that totalitarianism really isn't all that bad, because...like...you know...they get things done; not like here where eeeevil Republicans and that silly-a*s constitution get in the way. The reality is that many on the Left really have no use for democracy. It galls them that fat, uneducated, hamburger-gobbling boobs actually get to vote. What Friedman wants is total power concentrated in the hands of so-called elites...which of course would include Friedman.
fred| 12.23.09 @ 3:24PM
OH KEN!
Yet another GOP Kool-aid drinker listening to Rush Limbaugh, just what we need for this country to progress. Article written by the GOP for the GOP wing nuts, knock yourself out!
Ken (Old Texican)| 12.23.09 @ 3:54PM
Hi Fred.....and welcome over from daily kos.
Are you one of Obama's new "powder blue-shirt" recruits?
I truly hope to see you one day. heh heh.
Howard| 12.23.09 @ 3:25PM
I remember when Perot ran in 1992. He kept saying the Potomac water had something weird in it. The GOP circa 2005 were bad; spending a lot, and Bush afraid to use his veto. But this crew makes Bush & Co. look like pikers. They will bankrupt us all soon. Next time Obama goes to China; his fortune cookie will say "sorry, no more money for you". Then, the excrement hits the fan. The house of cards falls. Store food.
Thomas| 12.23.09 @ 3:37PM
The only thing wrong with the Health Care bill is the lack of a robust public option.
This bill is a work in progress and one I will be thrilled to see the President sign into law.
-One American voice (among many)
JohnR22| 12.23.09 @ 4:23PM
Supporters of this bill fall into one of two categories; the naive and the greedy. The naive are those who don't have the IQ to grasp how this bill will actually play out; that it will explode the national debt, result in massive tax hikes for the middle class, and will permanently hamstring our economy. They just don't get it. The greedy are those who think the Democrats will deliver the Free Stuff. They think it's somebody ELSE that's going to get taxed and that they (the greedy) are going to make out like bandits.
Which one are you, Thomas? Greedy or Naive?
Tim| 12.23.09 @ 4:26PM
Dr. Peter Venkman: What do you think, Egon?
Dr. Egon Spengler: I think this building should be condemned. There's serious metal fatigue in all the load-bearing members, the wiring is substandard, it's completely inadequate for our power needs, and the neighborhood is like a demilitarized zone.
Dr Ray Stantz: Hey. Does this pole still work?
[slides down a fireman's pole]
Dr Ray Stantz: Wow. This place is great. When can we move in? You gotta try this pole. I'm gonna get my stuff. Hey. We should stay here. Tonight. Sleep here. You know, to try it out.
[Venkman looks at Spengler. Spengler slowly shakes his head. Venkman turns to the real estate agent]
Dr. Peter Venkman: I think we'll take it.
Road Kill| 12.23.09 @ 4:38PM
The problem with this health care reform bill is that one day they will run out of someone else's money. Then what do you think will happen? Cuts, year long waits to get an MRI, take a number and wait in the ED, and eventually dissatisfaction by the public cheerleaders of the bill. Nothing is solved, just a whole new list of problems.
GreyLion| 12.23.09 @ 7:28PM
Tommy,
Not American and not among many
Rmm| 12.23.09 @ 8:36PM
Thomas
You are definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed. Take off the blinders and wonder about all the unintended consequences wrapped in this monstrosity.
Ken (Old Texican)| 12.23.09 @ 3:56PM
Hi Thomas
200 million of us refuse to obey that law when and if he signs it.
Sorry.
Richard Baker| 12.23.09 @ 4:32PM
Ken:
Keep your powder dry, my friend. The Revolution is imminent and the bedwetting liberals will not be much of a physical impediment. They'll stand by and whine and call us names and threaten to sue. Shoot straight.
valwayne| 12.23.09 @ 5:08PM
We've never seen this level of arrogance in a U.S. President in a century. As for the level of ineptness we haven't seen this much since Jimmy Carter, and Obama has outdone him in less than a year. We have Jimmy Obama to deal with for 3 more years. God Save America! Obama won't!
Louis Jenkins| 12.23.09 @ 8:02PM
Arrogance? Get a load of this, from Redstate.com
"DEMINT: But, Mr. President, as the chair has confirmed, Rule 22, paragraph 2, of the standing rules of the Senate, states that on a measure or motion to amend the Senate rules, the necessary affirmative vote shall be two-thirds of the senators present and voting. Let me go to the bill before us, because buried deep within the over 2,000 pages of this bill, we find a rather substantial change to the standing rules of the Senate. It is section 3403 and it begins on page 1,000 of the Reid substitute. . . . These provisions not only amend certain rules, they waive certain rules and create entirely new rules out of whole cloth.”
The Senate President disagreed and said it was a change in procedure, not a change in rules, therefore the Senate precedent that a two-thirds vote is required to change the rules of the Senate does not apply.
Senator DeMint responded:
DEMINT: and so the language you see in this bill that specifically refers to a change in a rule is not a rule change, it’s a procedure change?
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: that is correct.
DEMINT: then i guess our rules mean nothing, do they, if they can re define them. thank you. and i do yield back.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: the senate stands adjourned until 7:00 a.m. tomorrow.
Amy Rickenbacker| 12.23.09 @ 8:14PM
facts are the dumbascrappie part is composed of 40% negro, 40% chicano, 10% homosexual, and 10% union worker. that's right there's to many of them in washington. mary landrieu being a closet lesbian.
CS Lewis| 12.23.09 @ 8:46PM
America, let's start something now, across the land from sea to shining sea.
Resign NOW Obama!
Just imagine.
philfl63| 12.23.09 @ 8:56PM
It is time to talk about healthcare. I do not mean the lying, worthless debate that is currently going on in Washington, D.C. by our elected representatives. I am talking about healthcare as it is supposed to be in the United States of America. Healthcare is the most intimate and personal of issues to Americans. It is in fact a matter of life and death. Today, the cretins in Washington, D.C., both Republican and Democrat passed a new form of slavery called healthcare reform. The Democrats were the active perpetrators. The Republicans were their willing, passive accomplices. Both Dems and Repubs are very happy today, because they just took the second biggest step in U.S. history (the 16th Amendment enacting the Income Tax was the first) in gaining control over our lives. Now these criminals have gained control over the remaining money we have left that is not extorted via taxes. They also have a perpetual honeypot of campaign funds (bribes) from the trillion dollar healthcare industry, because they now have the entire healthcare industry by the scruff of the neck (to be polite).
Do not be fooled by the charlatans in Washington, D.C. Both political parties have put on a kabuki theater to distract us. Both parties claim to want “healthcare reform” and “health insurance reform”. This is a lie from the pit of hell. The only reform that is needed is for the gov’t to get its grubby mitts out of healthcare completely. Do not let either of the lying, corrupt political parties and politicians fool you into believing that they are going to pass some bill or law that is going to reform anything. They created the current healthcare monstrosity generations ago. They know that we citizens are too busy, too ill-informed, and too brainwashed so that we believe in and think we are entitled to communistic Ponzi schemes such as Medicare. They have guilted us for decades into believing that it is our responsibility to take care of the “poor’s healthcare” through the socialism ofMedicaid. Both of these programs are unconstitutional and constitute theft from the American citizen (as do all of the other programs we fund through our tax dollars).
Having said that, let us talk about real healthcare and what it is supposed to be. Simply put, healthcare is a commodity no different than any other commodity in the American economy. People (doctors, nurses, techs etc) and businesses (health insurance, medical supply, medical devices, and pharmaceuticals) offer their goods and services for our money. That is it in a nutshell. These people and entities should be able to charge what they want for their goods/services without any gov’t interference whatsoever. Healthcare is in the mess it is in because of gov’t rules, regulations, bureaucracy, and interference. The healthcare system in this country would right itself, and everyone would be able to afford healthcare if the corrupt (politicians and bureaucrats) would remove themselves and their regulation from healthcare. The market would take care of the rest. It is as simple as that.
What is my obligation regards healthcare? I have every obligation, duty, and responsibility to pay for my own healthcare. It is my responsibility to eat right, exercise, watch my weight, and not drink, drug, or smoke. I do not want to pay for your healthcare, and you have no duty, moral or otherwise, to pay for mine. It is my duty to help out my parents in their old age, and then my duty to pay for my own healthcare in my old age. I do not want to pay for your parent’s healthcare, because it is not my duty or responsibility, and you do not want to pay for mine. I do not want the gov’t extorting my money every month to pay for people on Medicare and Medicaid. Their healthcare is their own business and responsibility. Regards the poor, churches and charities can take care of them. If I choose to be charitable to help those people, then it is my choice. It is criminal extortion for the gov’t to take your money and my money to pay for these people’s healthcare.
It is criminal extortion for the gov’t to mandate that employers must pay for their employee’s healthcare. The employer is responsible only for employee’s healthcare when they get hurt on the job. Beyond that, employers have no business being involved in their employee’s healthcare unless they choose to do so.
Only military service-members and veterans should be subject to gov’t healthcare. People born with lifelong birth defects and disabilities can be assisted by the gov’t relieving them and their families from having to pay income tax and payroll tax, so they can pay for their family-member’s care. Having an extended family-member with such disability, I would not begrudge anyone that privilege. None of this is rocket science. We do not need philosopher-kings or crooked politicians to tell us how to live our lives.
philfl63| 12.23.09 @ 9:28PM
It is time to talk about healthcare. I do not mean the lying, worthless debate that is currently going on in Washington, D.C. by our elected representatives. I am talking about healthcare as it is supposed to be in the United States of America. Healthcare is the most intimate and personal of issues to Americans. It is in fact a matter of life and death. Today, the cretins in Washington, D.C., both Republican and Democrat passed a new form of slavery called healthcare reform. The Democrats were the active perpetrators. The Republicans were their willing, passive accomplices. Both Dems and Repubs are very happy today, because they just took the second biggest step in U.S. history (the 16th Amendment enacting the Income Tax was the first) in gaining control over our lives. Now these criminals have gained control over the remaining money we have left that is not extorted via taxes. They also have a perpetual honeypot of campaign funds (bribes) from the trillion dollar healthcare industry, because they now have the entire healthcare industry by the scruff of the neck (to be polite).
Do not be fooled by the charlatans in Washington, D.C. Both political parties have put on a kabuki theater to distract us. Both parties claim to want “healthcare reform” and “health insurance reform”. This is a lie from the pit of hell. The only reform that is needed is for the gov’t to get its grubby mitts out of healthcare completely. Do not let either of the lying, corrupt political parties and politicians fool you into believing that they are going to pass some bill or law that is going to reform anything. They created the current healthcare monstrosity generations ago. They know that we citizens are too busy, too ill-informed, and too brainwashed so that we believe in and think we are entitled to communistic Ponzi schemes such as Medicare. They have guilted us for decades into believing that it is our responsibility to take care of the “poor’s healthcare” through the socialism ofMedicaid. Both of these programs are unconstitutional and constitute theft from the American citizen (as do all of the other programs we fund through our tax dollars).
Having said that, let us talk about real healthcare and what it is supposed to be. Simply put, healthcare is a commodity no different than any other commodity in the American economy. People (doctors, nurses, techs etc) and businesses (health insurance, medical supply, medical devices, and pharmaceuticals) offer their goods and services for our money. That is it in a nutshell. These people and entities should be able to charge what they want for their goods/services without any gov’t interference whatsoever. Healthcare is in the mess it is in because of gov’t rules, regulations, bureaucracy, and interference. The healthcare system in this country would right itself, and everyone would be able to afford healthcare if the corrupt (politicians and bureaucrats) would remove themselves and their regulation from healthcare. The market would take care of the rest. It is as simple as that.
What is my obligation regards healthcare? I have every obligation, duty, and responsibility to pay for my own healthcare. It is my responsibility to eat right, exercise, watch my weight, and not drink, drug, or smoke. I do not want to pay for your healthcare, and you have no duty, moral or otherwise, to pay for mine. It is my duty to help out my parents in their old age, and then my duty to pay for my own healthcare in my old age. I do not want to pay for your parent’s healthcare, because it is not my duty or responsibility, and you do not want to pay for mine. I do not want the gov’t extorting my money every month to pay for people on Medicare and Medicaid. Their healthcare is their own business and responsibility. Regards the poor, churches and charities can take care of them. If I choose to be charitable to help those people, then it is my choice. It is criminal extortion for the gov’t to take your money and my money to pay for these people’s healthcare.
It is criminal extortion for the gov’t to mandate that employers must pay for their employee’s healthcare. The employer is responsible only for employee’s healthcare when they get hurt on the job. Beyond that, employers have no business being involved in their employee’s healthcare unless they choose to do so.
Only military service-members and veterans should be subject to gov’t healthcare. People born with lifelong birth defects and disabilities can be assisted by the gov’t relieving them and their families from having to pay income tax and payroll tax, so they can pay for their family-member’s care. Having an extended family-member with such disability, I would not begrudge anyone that privilege. None of this is rocket science. We do not need philosopher-kings or crooked politicians to tell us how to live our lives.
D. Grant Chee| 12.23.09 @ 10:47PM
They attempt to reduce us to serfs. In their cat bird seats, which we feather, our elected reps now delusionally consume our last liberty; blindly trusting in our non existent docility. If this HC reform passes, and proves our enslavement, the lawyers, bureaucrats and charlatans will learn what all enemies of the people must; that we make poor slaves, unite quickly and never lose. USArmy, soldier, (r)
DaveinPhoenix| 12.24.09 @ 12:11AM
So where did all these democrats in Washington come from for the past 80 years ? They came from the ballot box. Millions upon millions of American idiot voters. The irresponsible, the lazy, the ignorant, those who allowed them selves to be lied to. Couldn't solve a problem if their sorry little lives depended on it.
And what's the answer to these symptoms ? Education. And I believe there's a whole bunch of American liberal idiots getting a real good education right now on economics and how America works. Enjoy the learning experience kiddies.
Yosemeti Sam| 12.24.09 @ 12:46AM
Here's a PR slant for the GOP:
Health conform cum BHO cum Reid cum broomrider cum - well, in short, et al to make the list comprehensive.
Made In China!
LOL.
Sam| 12.24.09 @ 2:13AM
I am a left-leaning independent who strongly supports gun rights. But I want to know- why are all conservatives stocking up on ammo? Do you think the government is going to take ur weapons? If anything, I think gun restrictions will be loosened over the next couple of years, especially if the Supreme Court decides to extend gun rights laws to the states. And the Brady Anti Gun campaign is no match for the NRA...
Victor| 12.24.09 @ 2:24PM
Yes Sam, and if you're a Left-leaner you believe that the gov. can make a law to take your guns. And there are too many laws floating around Congress to make that happen. They are looking to ban guns and ammo. down to .22 caliber. And anything with a pistol grip is an "assault" weapon. I've seen the proposed bills online. They're not going to stop until they disarm the populace. Remember this when they mention "sensible" gun laws.
p.s. If you really believed in gun rights, you'd be Right leaning.
P. Aaron| 12.24.09 @ 7:01AM
To get the attention of the media, we should stop congratulating ourselves over these peaceful protests and just start busting & trashing stuff whenever we have one of these meetings. It's the only thing the left understands. That's what eventually endeared the hippes to reporters at the time.Burning cars and buildings, along with smearing feces upon the walls of University offices are what scare politicians and makes great television. Yeah, they'll be against us at first, (they were regarding the hippies) but eventually, the media will spot a figure(s) that is so telegenic that they'll warm up to us. Soon enough we'll get power back and reign in the leftists idiots and get our constitution back.
Rmm| 12.24.09 @ 9:49AM
In the end the solution to this mess unfolding before us should be, how do we rid ourselves of the patently corrupt representatives that we put our faith in to do the right thing. Washington has just challenged us to do somthing about it.
Rodger D Smith| 12.24.09 @ 10:32AM
The "democrat party" is now openly Socialist; Their political philosophy is 180 degrees from the Constitution. I suspect we will see massive civil disobedience in 2010, as I also suspect the Socialists will commit voter fraud on a scale unheard of in American history. If they continue to shred the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, we will see civil war-- which is precisely what they want. Obama 's inner character is the same as Hitler, Stalin, Caligula: name your favorite despot. These guys are furiously working the Cloward-Piven strategy to force an armed confrontation from which they hope to emerge victorious and position themselves as head of a repressive police state. The best way to avoid this is to overwhelm them with passive disobedience and lawsuits. The ideology they follow is one which values the individual as a slave, a human with no rights, a repudiation of Judeo-Christianity. Americans face a certain, looming individual decision: whether to live as Free Men or die on their knees at the pleasure of Obama. Pray for your Republic, pray for strength and endurance, and for victory over this ungodly system of Evil.
RAMIII| 12.24.09 @ 12:34PM
Right you are! This is Evil. It mocks and laughs all the while it places the individual American in a position of having to make choices that are destructive and untenable for continuing freedom. This is what happens when a nation forgets God and His laws.
Richard Baker| 12.24.09 @ 12:27PM
Sam:
Sad that you don't understand the nature of things. There are three events you need to understand. First, the Kenyan has said that he wants a National Police force with the funding of DOD. Don't think that this is for suppression of street crime. Second, this country has the 2nd Amendment not for hunting or target shooting. This Amendment was intended to provide a check on tyrannical government. Third, go to the Oathkeepers website. This has become a big deal because of the tyranny these despots are attempting to put in place. Sit in your Independent cocoon, if you wish, but this country will NOT be turned into a Communist/Socialist nightmare. These are the reasons for the readiness you notice. Sic Semper Tyrannis.
Louis Jenkins| 12.24.09 @ 3:51PM
It appears that SC is gearing up to contest the Nebraska Gift that was awarded to Nelson, and the entire Obamacare scam. Follow the link:
http://www.washingtonexaminer......37187.html
According to this article several other states are joining in under the 10th Amendment. Gotta love those folks from SC. Apparently they, just like in 1860, are the only ones who understand how this nation is formed.
And Sam, the Second Amendment is not for just for hunting or blinking. Oathkeepers and 3%ers, yes.
Rmm| 12.24.09 @ 3:54PM
This is not the forum to discuss these issues. Personally, I would not trust these #)*&$%# as far as I could throw them. Stay below the radar.
Richard Baker| 12.24.09 @ 6:17PM
Rmm:
When I was in the Infantry, we had a saying. "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees." It appears that you're one of the sheep that the Kenyan depends upon. That's ok. Those of us who love this country will save you anyway, whether you deserve it or not. Maybe you'll survive.
Rmm| 12.24.09 @ 7:14PM
Obviously, Richard you did not pick-up on my drift. I did my time in the military and I don't trust these people enough to be giving info away on this site. Maybe you do, I choose to keep it under my hat. And me being a sheep, you're not even close, brother.
FCH| 12.24.09 @ 8:26PM
$300 million to New Orleans, Free Medicaid to Nebraska. To Hell with the Constitution.
When did open bribery become legitimate government? Where did this president come from Camelot or the Camel lot? Throw out every bastard that voted for this healthcare bill, whatever it takes. The future (health)of the populus is at stake, let alone the future of a free society. It's time for SC to lead the way once more! This time we may actually pull it off.
Richard Baker| 12.25.09 @ 11:52AM
Rmm:
With the number of media and computer sites, I doubt that our political enemies don't know everything about us, as we do of them. I understand your OPSEC attitude but the gloves need to come off and pound these Communists. My aplogies for any slights. It's just that there are too many with this mindset in the US. FIDO.
Ken (Old Texican)| 12.25.09 @ 2:13PM
RMM...Richard
You are both right.
There is no question in my mind but that some of our "trolls" are not trolls at all, but rather "agents provocateur" (sic).
Don't blast them with words in print that can be taken as "insurrection" in a "dog and pony show trial".
Heh, to make it plain...every one of us are already on the communist's lists, and I'm very sure some little squirrell is on here every single day cataloguing every essay and comment....and tracing every e-mail address.
I do hope everyone here will drop by my blog site. Heh, each of us is already dead meat if the govt. ever accrues the power to take us out.
( http://judgeroy.wordpress.com )
So over the last few months I have been casually suggesting modern day..."going galt", much the way Rush did...exiting New York...and hundreds of high earners have followed him, if not with so much fan-fare. I don't know where you all live, but here in Texas there are a LOT of us "independent cusses".
Heh...if WE "go green"...a lot of folks are going to get very very cold in the dark.
Regardless of what it costs me, I am going to continue to suggest different methods of going "galt"...if only temporarily. When the "poverts" finally wake up to the fact that politicians cannot feed them...that the store shelves are empty and their foodstamps are worthless...
OOPS!
Rmm| 12.25.09 @ 5:37PM
Ken,
Just to let you know, the web-site myteamusa.org could not be found by my server. I was trying to send an E-mail. No luck.
NoCAGal| 12.25.09 @ 3:33PM
We saw Obama for what he was from the get-go! We cannot understand why others did not see it. Dems are the most unethical, lying, cheating, devious, conniving, diabolical and sexually perverted bunch of narcissistic people we have ever seen! We dropped every Dem friend we had! They are clueless people.....
Richard Baker| 12.25.09 @ 6:08PM
Gentlemen:
I have a new t-shirt in desert tan with the words Infidel on front and reverse in English and Arabic. My attitude is say it and don't be frightened to do so. My pugnaciousness comes from understanding the cost of our beloved country and my unwillingness to concern myself with "feelings." The country is under assault daily by the likes of the Kenyan and his ilk. As Burke said, " All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing ." Smart guy, Edmund Burke.
JeffT| 12.26.09 @ 1:50PM
Since this is not about health care, it is academic to offer ideas to the Democruds. They could care less about us. They care about making us serfs, waiting in line for their largesse, doled out according to your allegiance to them. The "stimulus" has proven this is all about spreading the wealth and paying back cronies and sycophants. I suggest it's time for a good tar and feathering in Washington. THAT might send the signal we're PO'd.
OldMarineCorp| 12.26.09 @ 5:55PM
Love to see all prior military Bro's getting so involved. Obama and his anti-American buddys have no idea what they are stirring up. Semper Fi
Richard Baker| 12.26.09 @ 6:54PM
OldMarineCorp:
My Brother-in Arms. Remember that the Kenyan and his ilk think that we are all potential terrorists.
ex-SSG Infantry
USA
Alfred| 12.26.09 @ 11:09PM
Don't be silly. The bills that have recently passed the House and the Senate do not come close to being a government takeover of health care. Hospitals will not be operated by the government. Insurance companies will not be owned by the government. And physicians will not be employees of the government.
What the bills do is:
1) prevent insurance companies from being able to drop clients once those clients are diagnosed with expensive-to-treat illnesses,
2) prevent insurance companies from being able to refuse to cover persons with pre-existing medical conditions,
3) require everyone to purchase health care insurance and provide subsidies to assist those who cannot afford to purchase health insurance, and
4) lower the life-time cost of insurance and health care for everybody (because there will be that many more people sharing the risks and the burdens of catastrophic injury and illness).
Any legislation that results from the merger of these two bills will be a significant step toward helping more and more Americans enjoy the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
If you don't believe me, check out the statistics. In the U.S. there are, on average, 100,000 preventable deaths each year with 45,000 of those due in large part to lack of coverage. There are also, on average, 700,000 medically related bankruptcies each year.
Think of the huge social costs of those preventable deaths and those medical bankruptcies!
Richard Baker| 12.27.09 @ 11:29AM
Alfred:
If you micromanage by diktat, as this legislation does, and demand under penalty of Law that everyone "purchase" this perverted version of medicine, and the attendent loss of freedom then you have a disaster waiting to happen. Folks like you seem to think that a National Health monstrosity is good for one and all. Everywhere this stupidity has been tried it has been a bureaucratic nightmare. Wonder why the clinics along the Canadian-US border are full of Canadians? Obviously, you've already been drinking the Kool-Aid.
Richard Baker| 12.27.09 @ 12:44PM
Alfred:
So you don't become confused, the clinics of which I speak are on the US side.
Bill from WV| 12.27.09 @ 4:54PM
by Ellis Washington
If we abide by the principles taught in the Bible, our country will go on prospering and to prosper; but if we and our posterity neglect its instructions and authority, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us and bury all our glory in profound obscurity.
Daniel Webster
Ellis WashingtonDuring this Christmas season, America should be reminded that President Barack Obama has perpetrated more vicious attacks against the Christian faith than any other president in the history of America.
Therefore, I ask: Is Obama’s ascendancy a sudden catastrophe?
Even many of Obama’s most ardent supporters agree that his first year in office has been a catastrophe:
* Increasing the national debt from $10 trillion in eight years under GWB to over $14 trillion;
* Nationalizing private corporations like GM, Chrysler, AIG, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac;
* Bowing before murderous dictator nations like Saudi Arabia and China;
* Undeservedly receiving the Nobel Peace Prize after only two weeks in office, and;
* Appointing the basest of men (and women) to Cabinet-level positions and as czars to propagate the most anti-constitutional and hurtful policies against America.
One of America’s greatest statesmen, Daniel Webster, a congressman, a senator and the secretary of state under three different presidents, said almost 200 years ago, “If there is anything in my thoughts or style to commend, the credit is due to my parents for instilling in me an early love of the Scriptures.” Webster warned us that a “sudden catastrophe may overwhelm us and bury all our glory in profound obscurity” if we didn’t “abide by the principles taught in the Bible.”
Even America 150 years ago, during her most wicked and notorious period of slavery, does not compare with where we are today with abortion on demand, with the corpses of 50 million innocent babies we collectively killed, without even a tombstone memorial. How dare we send a charge to former generations for their sins of slavery, lynchings, de jure and de facto discrimination – with our hands stained with the blood of the innocents by our willful acquiesce to this savagery?
Daniel Webster continued his prophetic warnings to this generation, saying:
There is no nation on earth powerful enough to accomplish our overthrow. Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence. … [T]hat in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing.
Is President Obama our “public servant” or are We the People his slaves? I believe that the Obama administration and his puppet masters, like billionaire George Soros, the unions, the Hollywood movie moguls, militant gay and feminist activists, as well as legal organizations like the ACLU and the American Trial Lawyers Association, have nothing but utter disdain for the Constitution and the inalienable rights of the people founded under Natural Law.
How did we get here so fast? In 1980 candidate Reagan failed to pick a bona fide conservative as vice president, which led to Bush 41 becoming a one-term irrelevancy in 1992. This opened the door to the moral degenerate and demagogue Bill Clinton. Bush 43 won two terms faking as a Ronald Reagan conservative and spending like a drunken Democrat.
When Bush 43 speechwriter Matt Latimer got the assignment to write Bush’s speech for a CPAC conference, Bush was decidedly unenthusiastic.
“What is this movement you keep talking about in the speech?” the president asked Latimer.
Latimer explained that he meant the conservative movement – the movement that gave rise to groups like CPAC.
“Let me tell you something,” the president said. “I whupped Gary Bauer’s a– in 2000. So take out all this movement stuff. There is no [conservative] movement.”
How did we get Obama? We got this catastrophe because the GOP nominated an empty suit who denigrated the 20-year Reagan Revolution, that’s why. We have sown the wind of political hacks unworthy of the presidency for 20 years since Reagan left office, electing Bush 41, Clinton, Bush 43 and Obama – and now America is tragically reaping the whirlwind with economic, cultural and societal collapse as the world mocks us at every opportunity.
Russia, China and Iran are currently plotting to overthrow America from our long-held position as the world’s greatest and strongest empire. Obama and his socialist minions have always hated American exceptionalism and since the advent of the progressive movement in the 1890s for over 120 years have worked ceaselessly to replace the Judeo-Christian traditions that have made America the greatest nation in the history of humanity, making it the greatest debtor nation in the history of humanity.
Obama did not cause this sudden catastrophe alone. It was caused by many so-called progressives, intellectuals, academics, social engineers, lawyers, judges, liberal special-interest groups and Machiavellian politicians of both political parties.
Would to God we had a statesman in Congress like Daniel Webster who said:
I regard it [the Constitution] as the work of the purest patriots and wisest statesman that ever existed, aided by the smiles of a benign Providence; it almost appears a Divine interposition in our behalf … the hand that destroys our Constitution rends our Union asunder forever.
President Obama is not a patriot. Obama and his socialist legions are arrogant, deceitful political thugs who, along with the corrupt hacks of the Democratic Party, have defiled the austere grandeur of the White House and Congress. As a black man and American, I am insulted by these people who want to give Miranda rights to terrorists and try them in our courts in New York while court martialing our heroic soldiers for roughing up the perpetrator who murdered, burned and hung over a bridge several of our soldiers in Fallujah, Iraq.
America, let us arise in righteous fury like Daniel Webster to defeat our present rulers, to impeach this “sudden catastrophe” who has usurped the magnificent power and authority of the presidency of the United States of America and restore the Reagan Revolution.
Ellis Washington writes for the WorldNet Daily
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