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Charity in Truth| 11.10.09 @ 6:52AM

Wack-O- Mole is what I was thinking, too.
Czars, is that constitutional?
The health care bill, what a mess.
Who wants more government intrusion?
Health care could be improved, but not this way.
I hope they scrap the bill and start over.
Health care reform must do no harm before doing any good.

alyeska| 11.11.09 @ 8:32AM

czars? why not ask bush whether they're constitutional -- he had his share :)

health care bill? imperative!

government intrusion? can you say "terry schaivo?"

keep it up, repubs, you've got a winning strategy here :)

Robert Rosencrans| 11.10.09 @ 7:29AM

Don't forget that Timothy Geithner, along with Bernanke , littered the deck of the current financial Titantic, yet the same engineers of disaster are hailed as our saviors again and again. Only in Washington do you find this type of thinking and suggestion. In the private sector those who fail are winnowed out. Inside the beltway they are pushed on to greater heights of failure. If anything should be evident at this point it's that the ideologues in the White House haven't got a clue how to stop rising unemployment. Barack borrowed over 1.4 trillion dollars and the results have been beyond dismal. It's Barack Hussein Obama who doesn't know what he's doing. That's the only problem we're facing. Stupidity in the White House. Barack Gump.

Jim O'Brien| 11.10.09 @ 8:02AM

A fundamental idiotic assumption of Obama and his Socialists in Congress is that the government creates jobs. Wrong. The government takes our taxes (or puts us deeper in debt) and then spends our money. The government sucks capital out of the private sector, which is in fact THE job creator, and uses it to buy votes. The "stimulus" legislation, therefore, is a cynical hoax on the public. The only way to create jobs is via capitalism: let free enterprise work.

hunter| 11.10.09 @ 8:37AM

With the administration packed full with communists, socialists and wackos why is anyone surprised at this train wreck country. Everything from the economy, to the war, to the everyday absolute BS we have to endure from the WH. If you bake a cake and use ingredients that come from the flower and garden dept. at walmart, why would one be surprised at the god awful outcome?
Bernake and his little fiend Timmy have shoved billions out into the deep dark abyss, not to be loaned out but invested in the stock market, and why not? Its loaned at zero percent interest rate, what a deal only in America. The stock market goes up with all the billions these bank/financials invest, and they buy more. Thats their crown and glory they point to the DOW! Its up, ohh wow. Wait till it drops to2500, ohh well, the taxpayer will bail them out, after all. THEY ARE TOO BIG TO FAIL.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.10.09 @ 9:01AM

Folks
I wish I could come up with the magic words to motivate each of you to set aside a mere $500 for heating fuel and bulk foodstuffs. (wheat and dried beans), and lots of your favorite sauces to make them edible.
The Mormons are very very good at this exercise. look it up under "mormon food storage" on the net.
A pump up pellett-BB gun (.177 caliber) is crucial as is LOTS of BBs. A couple of gallons of lard and plain clorox bleach is crucial as well.
Best of luck this winter.

Appleby| 11.10.09 @ 9:27AM

Up here in Fantasyland we are being distracted with a fake Pandemic for which there is dwindling vaccine and the recent admission that the whole show will be over before the peons get their vaccinations.

They are using this false pandemic to set people against one another, and to teach people to line up and wait for hours to do as they are told.

Today the police have informed a certain neighbourhood that they will be going house to house without warrants and "asking to be invited in" to search the premises for signs that a missing teenager from the USSR has been or is hiding there. They have no evidence of any kind that this girl is in that neighbourhood or that she has ever been in that neighbourhood. Nevertheless they are proposing to search the homes of people who have nothing to do with this matter, without warrants. They say you can refuse to let them in. Draw your own conclusions. They will draw theirs.

It is all pointing toward getting the peons to line up and do as they are told.

Nobody is connecting these dots.

Louis Jenkins| 11.10.09 @ 9:30AM

Sorry, Old Texican, I posted while you were posting, but that's good advice. Pay attention to his directions folks! I would also advise purchasing a lot of .177 cal pellets in addition to the BBs. Old Texican, you've narrowed it down to a few must have items, but don't forget a source of water, 2 months + stored, or a method of purification. An alternate long lasting source of light, candles or oil lamps. A good stock of vitamins, first aid, NSAIDs, cough and cold remedies, and dental hygene supplies. Don't forget extra striking paper, although the Green Peacers would have a fit over that luxury. (Can't find Sears and Roebuck catalogues anymore). That'll disappear off the market shelves in a hurry. Don't forget a fire source. There's a lot of 'stuff' out there on the web if you're willing to part with money, but there's a lot of stuff available at the hardware store too. If you're not far removed from the soil you can make do with less.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.10.09 @ 11:01AM

Nix dental hygiene stuff if you have no teeth. (heh heh)
A Mormon friend showed me how one level teaspoon of bleach per water gallon for one hour, kills EVERYTHING Louis. Neat huh?

Louis Jenkins| 11.10.09 @ 12:50PM

Yes, you're right. Thanks for jogging a couple of my brain cells. I now remember reading that in a wilderness survival text. If you don't mind a slight chlorine taste that will work fine. Never tried it but have used iodine tablets. Just hold your nose. Beats having the runs. I've seen some of the must have items in survivalist websites. Too much stuff!! Simplify your kit or stash. The best thing I've ever done, next to stocking up on equalizer supplies, was (re) learning how to can food. Hatchet throwing is a challenge though.

alyeska| 11.11.09 @ 8:35AM

oh goody, add survivalists to your ranks and your wingnuttery will be almost complete.

Louis Jenkins| 11.10.09 @ 9:10AM

James Carville to candidate Bill Clinton in the 1992 presidential campaign is still valid -- "It's the economy, stupid."

Carville plainly illustrates that space aliens have are on the planet and have invaded our government. And yes it is the economy!! STUPID!! However, the Earthly Messiah and his czars see the economy as something to be ridden, controlled, or negatively manipulated. It's the socialistic way. When controlled the brilliance and genius of a free economy dies, or moves off shore to third world countries. You cannot legislate growth or personal incentive, you must free the individual to make business choices right or wrong. Messiah Inc. is beating a lame horse to death, they know it, are enjoying it, but-shhhhh- don't tell anyone. What we don't know won't hurt us, just foot the bailouts with your worthless tax dollars.

Howard| 11.10.09 @ 9:29AM

You think things are bad now? Wait until the Bush tax cuts are repealed, the Tax and Cap goes into effect, the Health Care taxes come into play. and finally, when the Chinese stop buying our bonds. The Democrats may soon be the "extinct party", not the GOP as the mainstream pundits proclaimed earlier this year!

Northern Rebel| 11.10.09 @ 10:40AM

Old Tex:

My late father-in law's nickname was "true-screw", 'cause his garage used to look like a hardware store.

He had 5 freezers filled with various types of foodstuffs, and a gun collection that would've made David Koresh jealous!

During the Y2K fearmongering, I was prepared to be on "the Hill', as we called it, in Eaton NY, just in case the shit came down!

Fortunately for our country, it was a false alarm, but it might be a good idea to be prepared for the next time the "shit comes down."

It may not be a false alarm this time!

Louis Jenkins| 11.10.09 @ 1:07PM

If I may address your post, sir, are people with some inkling of the consequences hard to find in your part of the world? Those who are willing to prepare are scarce, or maybe they're keeping it a secret, but my neighbors and fellow workers seem oblivious to our country's situtation. Even my spouse has difficulty grasping the possibility of a negative development. Too long in the lap of luxury I'd bet.

Ken (Old Texican| 11.10.09 @ 1:51PM

Rebel
I hope those freezers had an independent generator. (OOPS!) or he had the know-how to build and operate a smokehouse.
bulk food people...bulk grain and beans...not meat that will spoil when the terrorists stop the fuel for electricity.

Tim| 11.10.09 @ 4:12PM

And porn too, HBO will be off the air when it goes down! Check the internet for design of a water wheel powered DVD player.

Goldwater Girl| 11.10.09 @ 10:54AM

Is it my imagination, or does Carville look like a poisonous snake in this picture? The Democrats seem to be home to the homely.

ds80| 11.10.09 @ 10:55AM

"Y2K" nastiness was avoided only by having spent the money and manpower to correct code. The disaster-in-waiting was not a fabrication, and it was not a "false alarm". Bad things would have happened if millions of lines of code had not been painstakingly checked, or other software had not been replaced entirely.

Mattled| 11.10.09 @ 11:12AM

"By including the dodgy language of "saved" jobs in the definition of job creation, the White House made it impossible to get an accurate "measure of success" of the administration's strategy to expand employment."

I beg to differ. We know what the numbers are and so does the w-house. They are dismal, purposeful and permanent.

Mattled| 11.10.09 @ 11:19AM

I had a good laugh when Carville and Gloria Borger were on CNN last Monday pre-election (I think).

They were giving advice on how the republican Party can "survive". Yeah, we took your advice last year---it's called McCain and it turned out precisely how YOU wanted it to.

Why on earth anyone would take advice from him----is he delusional?

It reminds me of Slumdog Millionaire when the show's host (spoiler alert!!), obviously disgusted with this "slumdog"(a good hearted kid who always wanted to do the right thing, unlike his brother)---was given the answer to either the last question or the second to last one---don't remember.

The kid shunned the advice to the amazement of the jacka** host. So goes Carville and Borger and Frum and Begala the Forehead.

Keep your advice----we know the ending.

Oldefarte| 11.10.09 @ 11:32AM

Any first year college economics student should be ablse to tell you that you cannot expand jobs by government spending policies. The 'multiplyer effect' of money [and corresponding job expansion] can only be achieved through the private sector of the economy. Translation: government should give businesses tax breaks/reductions so that the private sector will emply more people, buy more plant/equipment,etc; which in turn will provide more money in circulation [the multiplyer effect] to employees/suppliers/consumers,etc. It's not rocket science that Obama's/Democrats [non] stimulus policies is/will fail miserably!!!!

Paul from SA| 11.10.09 @ 11:48AM

Democrats have their ears, eyes and brains blocked.

Gov't spending harms the economy.

Democrats see only the benefits of their spending, but fail to see the cost.

Imagine what would happen if you removed $1 trillion from the private economy? Massive damage would result.

Sure you waste a few hundred billion on debt service and spend the rest, $787 billion, for a giant redistribution scheme, and viola!, the economy gets worse!

Northern Rebel| 11.10.09 @ 11:55AM

Ds80:

You know, you just may be right!

Funny, I don't remember my taxes going up, or inflation going through the roof, or consumer prices syrocketing.

Must not have been a government function, huh?

Adam Smith| 11.10.09 @ 12:07PM

Another gem from VP Doll Head:

"Appraising the "stimulus" results in rousing terms, Vice President Joe Biden told the nation's governors, "In my wildest dreams, I never thought it would work this well."

How is it that Biden was not run out of politics after his treatment of Clarence Thomas?

I mean, I appreciate the humor the Czar of Gibberish provides, but come on.
I would be concerned about a pandemic of Hoof n Mouth if this guy is given much more air time.
Maybe we need to start working on a vaccine now looking at how swimmingly the flu

His choice is Biden as VP is another of the disturbing pattern of decisions of TOTUS.

Another was hearing him try to explain how Keynsian economics (without really knowing anything about it) was part of why his "stimulus" was so successful, also stimulated a wormy lipped grin trying to keep from laughing.

The folks in just over the border in Oregon are not real happy about 75% of the "saved or created jobs" turned out to be raises or retention for government employees. Meanwhile the overall picture is much less rosy.

Gov. Arnie (aka The Economic Girlie Alphaman)too deserves special mention for pushing this mix of alchemy, formula as follows;

Massaged&Cherry; Picked Statistics x5
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Tortured Definition from Chicago Lawyers

= Whatever You Want

My wife is taking stats right now and it has been interesting to watch her become aware of just insane these jokers have become with the manipulation and chicanery.

Not that it takes a college stats class to see what is going on, but she "gets it" now when I start to blubber unintelligibly &/ drool at the television when exposed to government reported numbers on the economy.
She has taken to snorting in derision when Joker Joe & The Gang are working thier tortuous magic on what they surely see as the unwashed masses.

Oops| 11.10.09 @ 12:14PM

Apologies for the booboo.
End of third paragraph:

..at how swimmingly the whole flu thingy is going.

Us unwashed members of the cake eating class are subject to attention lapses.

Northern rebel| 11.10.09 @ 12:18PM

Would some brilliant economist, with a plethora of parchments kindly expain why this idea wouldn't work?

There are 300,000,000 Americans.

If you give each man, woman, and child, (Even the Kennedys!) 1 million dollars, everyone is wealthy, and it only cost
$300,000,000,000,000!

Recession over, no special interest benefits, and government has no say in how the money is spent!

It seems on the surface, to make more sense than spending $500,000, to create a $40,000 job.

Where am I wrong?

Kevin| 11.10.09 @ 1:26PM

Inflation will kill it dead instantly, the same way it will kill the "stimulus" funds over time.

davelnaf| 11.10.09 @ 12:44PM

Biden is a horrible flake. He is there to make another flake look good.

Marcell| 11.10.09 @ 12:47PM

More specifically, what hurt Democrats at the polls is the lack of new jobs and the flood of red ink -- plus the doctor-bashing as a strategy to enact Obamacare, the push to cancel a worker's right to a secret ballot during unionization drives, the promise of skyrocketing utility rates via cap-and-trade mandates, and the prospect of higher taxes, more regulations and less liberty by way of an ever-increasing intrusion by government into every aspect of our lives.
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If that was so true, the Democrats wouldn't have grown their majority in congress.

It seems like you guys & gals are trying to manipulate the truth to win elections, & that is how you ended up with Bu$h & this recession.

You would be fooling lots of people, but the person you are really manipulating is yourselves.

Here's why.

If your favorite conservative can't be honest with you, what makes you believe you can trust those people who conveniently manipulate you.

Honesty & integrity is not many of your strong points. I wish I could be disappointed with many of you, but I did that back in 2005.

True conservatism has taken a back seat to be afraid. No, be very afraid of Obama, when your guy, Bu$h, has already broken it.

Why didn't none of you see any of this coming?

The F.O.I call it blind, death & dumb.

Marcell| 11.10.09 @ 12:55PM

I have been doing lots of research on the last special election & this is the cold reality about that election.

P.S. Please don't respond to my post unless you are willing to debate issues & not engage name calling.

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Tea Party Spin Reflects Fractures Within Republican Party

Tea Party Conservatives Looking for Lockstep, Not Compromise -- How American is That?
By saul relative
In the ridiculousness that has become the post 2008 national election morass within the Republican Party, the extremists (read: Tea Party neoconservatives) are entrenched (they're always entrenched). They're serious (they're always serious). They're angry (they're always angry). And they're claiming victory (they're always claiming victory in their little spin-world) in the only major election on November 3, New York's 23rd Congressional District, that they lost. Why? Because it was the only one that actually counts when talking about a "mandate" that shows disapproval of the 10-month-old presidency of Barack Obama, that mandate that people like Bill Kristol, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck and other mouthpieces of the neoconservative contingent of the GOP assured America was going to happen. And it is the only election that matters when dealing with President Obama because the seat directly effects legislation. And their candidate, Doug Hoffman, lost. So how have they managed to find victory in defeat?
Spin, spin, spin...
Extremists like Michelle Malkin are saying that getting Republican Dede Scozzafava to withdraw from the race so that a "real" conservative (read: Republican) like Hoffman could run was the victory. Getting a "real" conservative like Hoffman, who may be the most platitude-espousing automaton to present themselves to the public since Sarah Palin, to run in Scozzafava's place constitutes a "victory" for the Tea Partiers and their "my way or the highway" ideology. They are hellbent on fracturing the Republican Party and making it so ideologically based that they are leaving no room for moderates. It is a "join us or leave" ideology that brooks no compromise, takes no prisoners, and suggests that anything slightly left of their predominantly unyielding positions are unpatriotic, detrimental to America's future, and fundamentally immoral. This includes members of their own party, those they call fake, faux, or phony Republicans. Like Dede Scozzafava.
Dede Scozzafava has become one of the first casualties of the extreme right's move to take over the GOP, even to wrest the Party from its established Beltway hierarchy. Somewhat populist, the movement is calling for a resurrecting of core Republican values which are seen as conservative. The idea is to provide a united front against anything that they deem in opposition to their principles.
The problem is that in doing so, they lose the more independent, less ideologically steadfast members of their party. Unwilling to compromise, they present a voting block (something that the Republicans in Congress are already presenting to anything presented by the administration of President Barack Obama). Sadly, in politics, where give-and-take, wheeling-and-dealing, and compromise are how things get done, the regimented lockstep of a constantly oppositional grouping does not work very well unless it is the dominant party. Of course, that is the ultimate goal of a party, to gain control, but the extreme sect, the Tea Party faction, of the GOP are perfectly willing to fracture their party, producing a party within a party to achieve their ultimate goals.
And it is that lockstep value that they do not quite understand relegates their way of doing things as authoritarian, undemocratic, and "un-American" (to use their own oft-used phrase). Why not offer Doug Hoffman in addition to Dede Scozzafava in the election? If what they were truly attempting to do was to show that they were breaking with the Beltway Republicans, then they could have done so by offering Doug Hoffman as an alternative Republican candidate and allowing the people of New York's 23rd District to vote for or against the three candidates? Forcing Dede Hoffman to withdraw only made the Tea Party contingent look like a bunch of strong-arm goons pressuring to get what they want and, instead of offering a true alternative, simply offered a replacement for the GOP's candidate, just one more in concert (read: lockstep) with their way of thinking.
But, in the end, Doug Hoffman's defeat was a defeat. There is no victory in losing. The spin doctors are crowing that it was an ideological victory, a victory for the Tea Partiers, a blow against the fake Republican establishment that wants to make political deals with the Democratic Party (and, to some, no different than the Democrats). Some even point to the fact that if Dede Scozzafava's votes (she received over 7,000) were added to Doug Hoffman's, he would have won. But would he have? Those people voted for Dede Scozzafava when given the choice between two running candidates and one that had withdrawn.
One of those compromisers that seem to annoy the Tea Party conservatives immensely, a man attempting to make the GOP a little more inclusive (as opposed to exclusive), Republican National Committee chairman Michael Steele, said during a press conference, "I don't see a victory in losing seats. I'm in the business of multiplication and addition. I want more Republicans. I don't buy that we somehow find victory in defeat."
Steele also said that it was a mistake to think a smaller, more ideologically correct group was victorious simply due to the fact that they were successful in fielding their candidate.
And he is correct. Already a shrinking entity, the GOP has attempted to broaden its base beyond its stereotypical aging white blue-collar center in the past couple years, but the Tea Party movement has provided pushback, demanding that Republicans return to their core values and stop compromising.
But compromise is how things get done, like it or not, not just on Capitol Hill but in everyday life. And unwillingness to compromise, that others must do that which is dictated by the group, is anathema to the independent American values to which the Tea Party members pay lip service. But there is no room for compromise in the world of political and moral absolutists. Enter the Tea Party conservatives.
What the Tea Party contingent and the neoconservatives achieved was tantamount to a verbal coup via the ministrations of the likes of people like Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin. Three days before the election, Dede Scozzafava withdrew from the race. The next day, Scozzafava endorsed Bill Owens, the Democratic candidate, fiving the conservatives more ammunition but telling her supporters to vote for the candidate they felt best qualified.
Not being conservative enough, it seems, has become detrimental to one's political health within the more extreme ranks of the GOP. It is also where a defeat becomes a victory. Bill Owens is the first Democratic candidate to win the 23rd District since 1872. He defeated Doug Hoffman by nearly 4% of the vote. Sarah Palin wrote in Facebook of the loss, "The race for New York's 23rd District is not over, just postponed until 2010."
As is the usual concerning Sarah Palin, she is incorrect. The race is over. The conservative candidate lost. And even though the New York 23rd Congressional District's election was a "special election" (to replace Republican John M. McHugh, who became U. S. Secretary to the Army in September), Bill Owens is the new member elected to the House of Representatives. That is not postponed.
That Bill Owens might be replaced by a member of the GOP in 2010 remains to be seen. It also remains to be seen how much the more flexible and progressive-thinking Republicans are going to allow a small extreme contingent within their party to dictate the direction of their party. It cost them a Congressional seat for a year.
Somehow, that does not seem to equate to either a victory (of any sort) or a public mandate against the 10-month governance of President Barack Obama, no matter how hard the spin. Neither does the wins in Republican dominant Virginia and the poorly run state of New Jersey (a clear mandate that the Democratic dominant state was tired of incumbent John Corzine).
A clear mandate against President Obama will come if he loses the national election in 2012 -- which would be, in Sarah Palin's benighted reality, a "postponed" Republican presidency.
Sometime during the interim between now and upcoming elections, the Tea Party conservatives would do well to make at least one compromise -- with the truth.
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melvin| 11.10.09 @ 1:27PM

Ahh come-on Marcell no name calling, that is just taking all the fun out of it. But before you cast accusatory stones at Conservatives, you also need to look in the Liberal back yard as well.
For sure, there is enough blame to go around in regards to the maladies that effect us all, but your singular opinion of Conservatives is a bit skewed. With that being said, "Can I call yo u name now, even a little one?"

Ray| 11.10.09 @ 1:12PM

Since the health-care bill is unconstitutional, why doesn't someone sue the US Government on those grounds? Can't some senator or congressman file suit? Or one of the Supreme Court Justices? Just wondering...

Marcell| 11.10.09 @ 1:41PM

Dear Melvin

I am a registered independent & have been one since 1994 thanks to many of the common sense aproaches that I have learned from conservatives. With that said, I should let you know that I have been vigeriously with passion studying conservatism for over 15 years & find many things very attractive about conservatism, but I also know what I am up against.

Here's how it go:

1) Say that I don't know what I am talking about.

... Then I give my credible sources.

2)then they call me a liberal.

...Then I proceed to make any point I want to make.

3) Ratchet up more name calling by using the communist / socialist attack.

... Move on to another point using credible sources, because I know I am using solid sources while I toy with the silly name calling conservative who is talking just to be heard & is losing the intellectual discussion bad.

Paul from SA| 11.10.09 @ 1:48PM

Marcell,

You have an far-left perspective -- a limited perspective. So limited that you believe the bubble you live in represents a majority.

Michelle Malkin is not extreme; she is mainstream and she is outstanding. She is intelligent, honest and always does her homework.

Scozzofava is not a conservative; she is/was a liberal Republican. She endorsed the Democrat after quitting. Honestly, she doesn't belong in the Republican party. But then again, neither do I, for now.

It's the reason I and millions of other conservatives did not vote. The Republican party is trying too much to pander to liberals; they are too afraid of being accused by the liberal media of being racist.

How's Joe Lieberman doing these days? I saw CNN and MSNBC have been doing attack pieces on him.

We can always tell whom you liberals fear the most by whom you attack with the nuttiest objections. Joe Lieberman, Sarah Palin. Michelle Malkin. Liz Cheney. Michelle Bauchman. Rush, Glenn, Ann. (Yes, all corrupt and inferior.)

I predict massive turnover in the House in 2010 -- not only for the Democrats disquised in Red districts, but also I'm hoping lots of Republicans get replaced with conservative/libertarian candidates.

The 2008 elections were a fluke. Admit it. The country is center-right.

Conservatives are far more popular than Republicans.

Liberals are far less popular than Democrats.

Liberals, in power, in the majority, is a fluke. Enjoy it for one more year.

Edited| 11.10.09 @ 1:49PM

Dear Melvin

I am a registered independent, & have been one since 1994, thanks to many of the common sense approaches that I have learned from conservatives. With that said, I should let you know that I have been vigorously studying conservatism with passion for over 15 years, & I find many things very attractive about conservatism, but I also know what I am up against.

Here's how it goes:

1) Say that I don't know what I am talking about.

... Then I give my credible sources.

2)then they call me a liberal.

...Then I proceed to make any point I want to make.

3) Ratchet up more name calling by using the communist / socialist attack.

... Move on to another point using credible sources, because I know I am using solid sources while I toy with the silly name calling conservative who is talking just to be heard, & is losing the intellectual discussion bad.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.10.09 @ 2:02PM

Marcell,
God bless you. Repent of your evil ways and He will.
Most of us consigned you to the scroll button months ago.
Why should we wade through your rants?
You are just silly in your evil.

Marcell| 11.10.09 @ 2:11PM

Paul from SA

You have an far-left perspective -- a limited perspective. So limited that you believe the bubble you live in represents a majority.
Marcell:
I haven't read anything you said, because for you to assume that without any proof to back it is a STRAIGHT UP LIE.

Paul from SA:

We can always tell whom you liberals fear the most by whom you attack with the nuttiest objections. Joe Lieberman, Sarah Palin. Michelle Malkin. Liz Cheney. Michelle Bauchman. Rush, Glenn, Ann. (Yes, all corrupt and inferior.

Marcell:

They get put out there because they are like the characters needed to play the roll that we expect & want to be entertained by; their rhetoric is the easiest to blast like Alan Colmes is to Sean Hannity. They represent the weakness in the conservative bench, & yes they are mainstream within the conservative ranks.

Don't forget y'all gave us Bu$H & Cheney & they left us with a recession.

Northern Rebel| 11.10.09 @ 2:16PM

Marcell,

You lose the argument, no matter how many words you use, by calling Michelle Malkin extreme, and defending Scuzzyfuvva, as a normal American.

Luckily, I can respond to any damn thing I want to, because despite your kind, President Anti-Christ hasn't been able to take my freedom of speach away, yet!

I lived in that district for 10 years, so don't attempt to tell me what kind of people live there.

That is why they tried to shove Scuzzy down our throats through the back door, because they knew she would be rejected by the common sense people of the 23rd district.

You can start printing resumes for Owen, 'cause this is a temp job for him, and you know it, that's why you attempted to stave off argument with your pathetic filibuster.

Sorry bub,
you are a liberal, and liberals are evil, and bad for feedom loving countries. If calling you a liberal is name calling to you, you are right!!

I would be offended to be called a liberal too, because that would mean someone believes I hate, and want to destroy my country, and turn it into a bunch of scumsucking surrender monkees, like the Europe your type bows to.

Go there, if that's the way you want to live, and stay away form my property, 'cause I have GUNS!

Step 3 already| 11.10.09 @ 2:19PM

Marcell,
God bless you. Repent of your evil ways and He will.
Most of us consigned you to the scroll button months ago.
Why should we wade through your rants?
You are just silly in your evil.

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3) Ratchet up more name calling by using the communist / socialist attack.

Conservatives are weak.

Paul from SA| 11.10.09 @ 2:21PM

Alan Greenspan is mostly responsible for the recession -- and the boom and bust. Bernanke will be responsible, mostly, for the next bust. Obama and the Democrats in congress will be responsible for extending the recession and driving us deeper and deeper into an ecomonic abyss.

Democrats in Congress were the ones that forced the loose money from banks to be steered toward purchasing homes for unqualified, irresponsible Democrats. It was mostly stupid Democrats who defaulted on their loans.

Wall Street just did what they always do -- short-term profits are king.

I cannot defend Bush for his lack of fiscal responsibility, but he is not responsible for the recession.

Dick Cheney is a great man.

Marcell| 11.10.09 @ 3:08PM

all we have to do is keep cleaning up the mess your guy left us, & your scare tactics will lose you more elections your asses.

That is how we will force you right wingers to "change."

P.S. It is kind of sad what has happened to the conservative movement.
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Overview: Dow Jones nears 13-month high
By Neil Dennis
Published: November 9 2009 18:23 | Last updated: November 9 2009 22:49
One of the main US stock market benchmarks closed at the highest level since October 2008, as investors began the week in risk-seeking mode, buying equities and commodities and selling the dollar.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 2 per cent to 10,226.94, as shares globally responded positively to this week’s G20 meeting in Scotland. The S&P 500 index gained 2.2 per cent at 1,093.08.

The message from the G20 that stimulus programmes would remain in place until economic recovery was entrenched reinforced the message from last week’s central bank meetings in the US, UK and eurozone.

“The signals generated last week suggest a scramble to reinstate ‘risk-on’ positions is under way,” said Philip Roberts at Barclays Capital. The main casualty of the “scramble” was the dollar, which fell to a 15-month low on a trade-weighted basis.

A few nuggets of data on Monday promoted an economic recovery scenario.

China was pivotal to sentiment as motor industry data showed a 77 per cent rise in October car sales from last year. The Shanghai Composite, China’s main equity index, rose for a seventh successive session, its longest winning streak in two months, as investors anticipated further good news with export data, retail sales and industrial output due.

“The reports are expected to be consistent with a further acceleration of Chinese growth and should support regional equity markets and currencies,” said Marc Chandler at Brown Brothers Harriman.

In Germany, the eurozone’s most powerful economy, export growth and industrial production numbers cast a warm glow over equity markets. Frankfurt’s Xetra Dax index was the best performing of Europe’s main equity indicators, up 2.4 per cent, and German stocks helped push the main FTSE Eurofirst 300 index 2 per cent higher.

Tokyo’s Nikkei 225 Average ended 0.2 per cent higher.

In the October 2009 Senior Loan Officer Opinion Survey on Bank Lending Practices, conducted by the Fed and released on Monday, domestic banks indicated that they continued to tighten standards and terms over the past three months on all major types of loans to businesses and households.

However, the net percentages of banks that tightened standards and terms for most loan categories continued to decline from the peaks reached late last year.

Increased appetite for risk left the dollar floundering on currency markets.

The US currency’s trade-weighted index, its value against a basket of six other major currencies, fell to a 15-month low of 74.93.

“The flow of central bank liquidity is a key element fuelling the risk trade that has weighed on the dollar,” said David Bloom at HSBC.

“Having the message that stimulative policies will continue to be employed so long as they are needed reinforced by the G20 is no small item.”

The dollar was lower broadly, falling 1 per cent against the euro and 0.9 per cent versus the pound.

The best performance was from the New Zealand dollar, which climbed 2.2 per cent against its US namesake.

Although the “risk on” trade hurt the US dollar, many government bond yields fell. The yield on the 10-year US Treasury dropped 2 basis points to 3.47 per cent after a well-received auction of three year notes, while the 10-year UK gilt yield fell 5.6bp to 3.83 per cent. The yield on the German 10-year Bund slipped 6.5bp to 3.31 per cent.

“Having recovered 50-60 per cent off their lows already, the momentum in equity markets simply does not look to be enough to meaningfully take the steam out of bonds in the current environment,” said Sean Maloney at Nomura.

Commodity markets were buoyed by the falling dollar, which helped push gold up to a new record above $1,110.

Gold’s latest run began with last week’s announcement from India’s central bank that it was buying 200 tonnes of the precious metal from the International Monetary Fund to help diversify its reserves.

Oil benefited from the signs of recovery in China and Germany, climbing 2.6 per cent to $79.43.

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Paul from SA| 11.10.09 @ 2:28PM

Marcell,

Why are conservative so much more popular than Republicans?

Why are liberals so much less popular than Democrats?

Despite decades and decades of the media and Hollywood telling us that conservatives are corrupt and inferior, and liberals are brilliant and superior, conservatives outnumber liberals in this country 2 to 1! Why?

Conservatives outnumber even independents! Why?

Because you and other liberals live in a social bubble. You think you are the majority in your little, sheltered world. Get out. Consider the truth. Question authority. Be curious. Don't just automatically believe the teachers and adults in your social circle.

Dear Melvin| 11.10.09 @ 2:29PM

At this point, I am going to give the Ri...the Wrong-wingers more liberal media to attack. This is also what I figure is one of the Democratic Parties stronger points.

I am still open to a great discussion with right-wingers, but... like I said, "I know what I am working with."

THIS IS WHY YOU ARE MAD.

GOP in the minority

Nov. 9: MSNBC political analyst Richard Wolffe discusses whether the Republicans' refusal to compromise on health care reform will hurt the party in the 2010 midterm elections.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22.....8#33812968

Michael Tomlinson| 11.10.09 @ 4:50PM

Obamacare not only will doom health care in America, but it will destroy the economy for all but the Democrat elite who plan to strip our society of everything they can for themselves and their drones.

The good news Democrats are in serious trouble in 2010 and 2012. Unfortunately, for Obama and Democrats this isn't Venezuela and imposing a dictatorship on the US is harder than a Latin American basket case.

Marcell| 11.10.09 @ 2:40PM

Michelle Malkin salutes the entitlement cult of Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07KsEuVMw1w

Marcell| 11.10.09 @ 2:44PM

Sorry bub,
you are a liberal, and liberals are evil, and bad for feedom loving countries. If calling you a liberal is name calling to you, you are right!!

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I bet he was a cheer leader for the Bu$h & Cheney clan.

Cellmar| 11.10.09 @ 4:06PM

I'm still a cheerleader for Bush & Cheney. After seeing what Zero Boy and Bumbling Biden have done for us, I'm convinced even the likes of John McCain has more integrity and intelligence than any far leftard like yourself. 0bama has a hundred-fold of every one of Bush's flaws (being too nice to commies and Islamofascists, spending taxpayer money too freely) while having absolutely none of his virtues (a liking for tax cutting, saying what he means and meaning what he says). None of Bush's virtues, do I say? Nay, the Zero has no virtues whatsoever.

Democrats are pure evil, and when we take back this nation from you thieving, lecherous, murderous scum, you should thankful if we don't hang every one of you for treason and set the dogs on your worm-eaten corpses. Of course, by the time you traitors are deposed, it might be because your terrorist pals have taken over, in which case you'll all be hanged and used for dog meat anyway; the first thing any prudent usurper does is exterminate the ones who raised him to power. In any case, you leftards are the party of the Damned, and one way or another, you're going to the place where the worm never dies and the fire never goes out.

Paul from SA| 11.10.09 @ 3:22PM

You liberals are dense. Can't respond? Afraid to answer any questions directly? Unwilling or unable? Both.

Republican does not equal conservative. That's why conservatives are more popular than Republicans, liberals, Democrats, independents. Oomph! I know how your stomach feels right now. The truth hurts those in denial.

The stock market is being fueled mostly by the falling value of the U.S. dollar. Don't you know any economics? Can't you stay focused on anything? Liberals can never debate, discuss nor argue any issue. As soon as they start to lose, they move on to another subject.

Democrats are entering a no-win situation. The rise in the stock market is false, and they won't get any credit. When the market collapses next year, the Democrats will take all the blame.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.10.09 @ 3:45PM

Hell, Paul
Marcell's rants are off his cheat sheet from Soros.
He cannot...cannot...engage in meaningful conversation.
Scroll...baby.....scroll...and giggle at his copy and pastes...from Mr. Soros.

I wish =)| 11.10.09 @ 4:15PM

The internet & your poor choices for politicians have opened the door for people like myself to undermine what you claim to believe. I don't believe you really believe what you say, & if you really believe many of the crazy things that you say, more power to you, but it wont be in Washington, because todays conservativism is out dated.

I believe it is because most of your leaders don't really have to compete for your support, they already know you hate Democrats; all they have to do is continue milking you mentally & financially.

Marcell| 11.10.09 @ 4:05PM

The stock market is being fueled mostly by the falling value of the U.S. dollar. Don't you know any economic.

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Please expound on your point.

P.S. I am going to enjoy this one =)

Cellmar| 11.10.09 @ 4:11PM

What, can't read a chart? Never looked at the inflation index over at Bloomberg.com and put it next to the Dow Jones? The two are like virtual mirror images of each other.

No, of course you can't read a chart. All leftards are functional illiterates, not to mention economic illiterates. You probably can't even read half the things we're saying against you without sounding out every word longer than two syllables, can you?

Figures.

Doorgunner| 11.10.09 @ 4:17PM

Actual conservatives have moved on from the NY-23 election; the only people still beating that malodorous equine stiff are the Liberals looking to deflect attention from the all-out assault on Joe Lieberman. Now that Obamacare is in the Senate, the real schism is in the Democratic ranks.

Oh, and here's a relevant market synopsis for you:

http://www.marketwatch.com/sto.....2009-10-06

Marcell| 11.10.09 @ 4:19PM

What is you point?

=)

http://www.bloomberg.com/?b=0&Intro=intro3

This is my point| 11.10.09 @ 4:28PM

All we have to do is keep cleaning up the mess your guy left us, & your scare tactics will lose you more elections your asses.

That is how we will force you right wingers to "change."

P.S. It is kind of sad what has happened to the conservative movement.

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One thing I know is that many of you haven't quite figured it out yet, but many of the Republican/Conservative candidates have.

Michael Tomlinson| 11.10.09 @ 4:46PM

The reality under George W. Bush and Republicans unemployment was around 5% and the economy was booming. In 2007 Democrats take over Congress and the economy starts to slide south. Obama is elected and it collapses.

The only cleaning up will be Republicans cleaning up in 2010 and 2012. Then they'll have to fix the mess caused by Obama and Democrats. This is the late 70's and early 90's all over again. Democrats screw everything up and Republicans fix it.

Paul from SA| 11.10.09 @ 5:00PM

One of the first things the Dems did after they took over Congress in 2007 was to raise the cost of labor. Unemployment has been rising since, especially among young, minority males.

Liberal Reader| 11.10.09 @ 4:33PM

Employment is a "lagging indicator."

By "lagging indicator," economists mean an indicator that lags.

By "lags" they mean "brings up the rear," "moves more slowly than some other things," "isn't quite caught up with the rest."

Is there any way to make this simpler?

When Obama took office the economy was shedding over 700,000 jobs a month. He inherited a disastrous economic crisis, after 8 years of phony, financial sector growth that didn't create good paying jobs.

Obama isn't perfect, God knows, and I don't know if the stimulus will work.

But I also am not a total idiot, like you, who thinks that recessions can be turned on and off like the television set.

Anyway -- never mind. Go back to Fox News. You wouldn't want to lose your place.

Michael Tomlinson| 11.10.09 @ 4:43PM

The unemployment rate when Obama was elected was slightly over 6%. As he continues to push his extremist agenda it only gets worse -- now over 10.2%. Team Obama expects it got get worse as it describes double digit unemployment as the "new norm."

The economy isn't getting better and won't until the Democrats lose power in Congress and Obama is replaced in the White House.

Obama has quadrupled the debt and nearly double unemployment in 10 months. Tragically the only change this idiot has brought is things getting worse for average Americans while his rich cronies fleece the public coffers.

The reality is under Barack Obama and Democrats more Americans go to bed homeless and hungry than since the Great Depression.

Paul from SA| 11.10.09 @ 4:44PM

Marcell,

"The US Dollar today is barely 81.7% of the value it had when Obama took office. "

"But if you understood Austrian economics (Mises and Hayek) you would know that money creates a very loose joint between the real economy and the stock market. The stock market is driven mostly by monetary policy. When the Fed pumps vast amounts of money into the economy, as it is doing today, most of it winds up in the stock market, or another asset such as housing. Loose monetary policy causes the stock market to soar. It will continue to soar until the Feds decide to tighten in order to slow down price inflation. " (fundamentalist, AT)

Paul from SA| 11.10.09 @ 4:53PM

Place yourself into a manager's position and consider the cost factors associated with hiring, employing and firing employees.

What business would be stupid enough to hire right now with all the uncertainties created by Obama and the Democrats?

They want to unionize the workforce.
They will be raising individual and corp. income taxes.
They will be imposing a health benefit mandate on employers (must pay 72%) or pay a fine.
They will be imposing a global warming tax on energy to fix nothing.
They are talking about enacting a Value Added Tax.

All the above will harm businesses.

Businesses will first increase hours. Then increase further. Then begin paying overtime. Then pay more overtime. Then force salaried mgt. to pitch in. Then hire part-time temporary employees. Then out source.

The very last thing any business wants to do right now is get stuck with a bunch of expensive employees for which they will be responsible for unemployment, health insurance, pensions, severance, lawsuits, etc.

Me, I would have offered my employees a 15% pay cut so that more can keep their jobs.

Marcell| 11.10.09 @ 4:59PM

Dear Paul from SA

The Bu$h recession didn't discriminate.

You sound so smart. But, your guys left us with a recession. Most of the same conservatives who propped up Bu$h & Cheney are trying to rebrand themselves, yet they hurt this country in some of the worse ways; it led to this recession. Now you are trying to use the same rhetoric that got us into this mess, & hope we what ??? ... take the same old trip again, hoping for better results (Insanity) with the crime Family faction for the Bu$h Crime Family.

Marcell| 11.10.09 @ 5:26PM

One thing I like about you conservatives is that you will continue to help us hold Democrats accountable for what they do, but you are desperately lacking any good ideas.

Might I add, your false assertions of real independent thinkers who see value in both parties is lacking in any true perspective, & it is hurting your Party & movement.

Either you drink too much right wing coolaid, or man, you guys & gals are clueless like many of the young radical left wing protesters.

... No pun intended.

Paul from SA| 11.10.09 @ 5:37PM

I'm not that smart, but I try everyday to seek the truth.

The timing of the recession cannot be attributed to any fiscal policy passed by the Rep. president and Dem. congress.

These boom and bust cycles are caused the Federal Reserve manipulating the money supply. The rest -- devaluing the dollar, rising equity and commodity prices including oil and houses -- are symptoms of loose monetary policy.

There's no question, Obama and his cottails encountered one of the worst economic collapses in history for a new president. And although that presented them with challenges, they squandered the opportunity, already.

I believe their solution to the fixing the economy will fail because their diagnosis was wrong. Ditto for health care. We need to help people with pre-existing conditions afford health insurance, and we need to help the growing costs. We don't need a gov't takeover.

They could have already passed any legislation they wanted. I expected much worse. Public opinion, not Republican obstruction, and despite a fawning media, is keeping congress in check.

Marcell| 11.10.09 @ 5:45PM

All the Republicans had to do is put up a better solution, but they opted for damage control for the insurance giants that don't want to lower prices for health care.

You & I both know that the Republican plan is just a gimmick.

Marcell| 11.10.09 @ 5:39PM

Michelle Malkin salutes the entitlement cult of Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

Paul from SA| 11.10.09 @ 5:52PM

Marcell,

You know I disgree. It's not koolaid.

The probem is gov't deficit spending will not and has not ever, stimulated any economy in history. It never has worked. Socialism never has worked. These redistribution systems eventually collapse when the gov't runs out of wealth and income to tax. Socialism makes everybody equally poor and then the peasants revolt. Punish the rich! Tax the rich! Tax the hard workers! Punish the successful! Reward failure! Reward losers! Reward the irresponsible!

Free market policies work everytime. Let people make a profit to improve their lives and supply the products and services consumers demand.

Marcell, imagine walking into Best Buy and seeing hundreds of health insurance policies for sale, each different in quality and price. Find the one that is best for you. That's what would happen if gov't would de-regulate insurance.

Imagine the converse. Walk into a Gov't TV Store and you see one tv for sale. (The good one is in the back for politicians and celebrities.) That's what the Democrats want for health insurance -- one size fits all.

Thanks. Gotta go.

Paul from SA| 11.10.09 @ 6:05PM

Insurance companies are not to blame. They, like any other company or person wants to maximize profits by charging the most people are willing to pay.

Let them and me and everybody make unlimited profits by supplying policies people want. Competition keeps prices low.

Marcell, think tv's, hamburgers, insurance policies. They are all subject to the forces of supply and demand.

Why doesn't MacDonalds charge $25 for a hamburger? Why don't oil companies charge $10 for gas? Competition.

More Data | 11.10.09 @ 6:31PM

3) Ratchet up more name calling by using the communist / socialist attack.

... Move on to another point using credible sources, because I know I am using solid sources while I toy with the silly name calling conservative who is talking just to be heard & is losing the intellectual discussion bad.

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Marcell,

You know I disgree. It's not koolaid.

The probem is gov't deficit spending will not and has not ever, stimulated any economy in history. It never has worked. Socialism never has worked.

These redistribution systems eventually collapse when the gov't runs out of wealth and income to tax. Socialism makes everybody equally poor and then the peasants revolt. Punish the rich! Tax the rich! Tax the hard workers! Punish the successful! Reward failure! Reward losers! Reward the irresponsible!

Free market policies work everytime. Let people make a profit to improve their lives and supply the products and services consumers demand.

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Tell that to the guy working at a fast food chain.

I like the way the conservatives claim that they know how to get us out of their mess, give no viable solutions, then claim that the best solution that is being proposed is wrong.

The stimulas package actually helped keep the goverment from losing jobs at the hight of when jobs were being lost & homes where being forclosed. The unemployment rate would be higer now wothout it.

I know you are for smaller government, but we sure don't want to make it smaller during a national jobs crisis.

Heck!! ... I can easily say that the fastest root to Socialism is to allow right-wingers to run the country, then Americans will be begging for the Government to help.

Boooooom!!

First hard stimulus data finds 30,000 jobs saved or created
By Walter Alarkon - 10/15/09 02:08 PM ET
The first direct stimulus reports showed that stimulus contracts saved or created just 30,083 jobs, prompting more Republican criticism of the $787 billion package.

The data posted Thursday was the result of the government's initial attempt at counting actual stimulus jobs. Obama administration officials stressed that data was partial -- it represented just $16 billion out of the $339 billion awarded -- but they said it exceeded their projections.

"All signs -- from private estimates to this fragmentary data -- point to the conclusion that the Recovery Act did indeed create or save about 1 million jobs in its first seven months, a much needed lift in a very difficult period for our economy," said Jared Bernstein, the chief economist for Vice President Joe Biden.

According to the White House recovery office's rough calculations, the 30,083 jobs number projects out to a total of 1.2 million jobs saved or created by the stimulus through September.

The White House recovery team said that the reported jobs number represented just 5 percent of the jobs directly saved or created by stimulus since it came out of contracts that represented only 5 percent of the stimulus spending so far. And as many jobs came directly from the spending, just as many jobs were indirect results of stimulus programs and tax cuts, the White House recovery office said.

But the preliminary raw data stoked more stimulus criticism from GOP lawmakers. Republicans pointed to the reports and the current 9.8 percent jobless rate, the highest in 26 years, to charge that the stimulus had failed.

Aides to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) noted that nearly 3.4 million jobs have been lost since the stimulus was passed in February. They also dug up quotes by President Obama, Biden and their economists in which they predicted that the stimulus would save or create 3 to 4 million jobs.

House Republicans believe that the stimulus will turn into a campaign issue that will work against Democrats during mid-terms next year. The National Republican Congressional Committee Thursday took the initial stimulus reports to mean that the stimulus created or saved few jobs in the home districts of vulnerable Democrats.

"Despite numerous promises from Congressional Democrats, there are still 15.1 million Americans out of work," said Ken Spain, spokesman for the National Republican Congressional Committee. "After wasting taxpayer dollars to produce an unimpressive 397 jobs in Michigan, middle-class families are still asking one thing: Where are the jobs?"

More data| 11.10.09 @ 6:49PM

Insurance companies are not to blame. They, like any other company or person wants to maximize profits by charging the most people are willing to pay.
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Here's the choice.

The Conservative that sees very little problem with the rising cost of insurance, or the Independent voter, who is NOT any of the disgusting conservative hate crap that he & his cronies are trying to portray.

According to this data, "You are the big spender."

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National Health Care Spending

National health spending is expected to reach $2.5 trillion in 2009, accounting for 17.6 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). By 2018, national health care expenditures are expected to reach $4.4 trillion—more than double 2007 spending.1
National health expenditures are expected to increase faster than the growth in GDP: between 2008 and 2018, the average increase in national health expenditures is expected to be 6.2 percent per year, while the GDP is expected to increase only 4.1 percent per year. 1
In just three years, the Medicare and Medicaid programs will account for 50 percent of all national health spending. 1
Medicare's Hospital Insurance (HI) Trust Fund is expected to pay out more in hospital benefits and other expenditures this year than it receives in taxes and other dedicated revenues. In addition, the Medicare Supplementary Medical Insurance (SMI) Trust Fund that pays for physician services and the prescription drug benefit will continue to require general revenue financing and charges on beneficiaries that will grow substantially faster than the economy and beneficiary incomes over time. 2
According to one study, of the $2.1 trillion the U.S. spent on health care in 2006, nearly $650 billion was above what we would expect to spend based on the level of U.S. wealth versus other nations. These additional costs are attributable to $436 billion outpatient care and another $186 billion of spending related to high administrative costs. 3

http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml

RHO| 11.10.09 @ 7:24PM

What a sad time to be an American. We are witnessing the death throes of the US. I am so glad my father is not alive to witness this disgrace. Our country cannot survive as we have known it, Obama has made sure of that. He will either get his way and we will become just another dictatorship or the whole stinking mess will collapse to the ground and anarchy will be the result. The rebuild will be long and hard and we will never be the same. The freedoms I knew as a child are all but gone, never to return and this administration has it's sights set on what is left.

Mr. Reality| 11.10.09 @ 7:49PM

If the democrats in
Mass. somehow decided to fill the seat in the senate of the late Ted Kennedy with a pro life, anti card check, pro war, global warming skeptic replacement the party base from coast to coast would have erupted. This is the skinny of what happened in that seat in New York. A more realistic GOP with an open primary process will solve the problem, and my bet is Owen will be agoin. On this one Palin is correct.

DaveS| 11.10.09 @ 7:52PM

The 'Whack-a-mole-game' reference was priceless. Makes you wonder what other gems are out there. All we had was Mineta.

Sue| 11.10.09 @ 8:39PM

Okay. That's $248,000 in SEVEN months. All of us work 52 weeks a year, 40 hour weeks. Isn't the pretend cost for each job created or saved based upon a 12 month period $425,142? That would be 8.5 times the median earnings and when the interest to be paid on it is calculated over the period of 15 years or so, it's more like 15 times the median earnings and cannot possibly be paid by the current workers.

(The worker's median income for this period (seven months) would be around $29,000 - therefore, 8.5 times.)

spytheweb| 11.10.09 @ 8:40PM

Gop calls universal health care "socialized medicine". That's because republicans and big business go hand in hand. When was the last time republicans did anything for the American people. You can bet when an issue comes up, big business vs. the people they will always be on the big business side. What i don't understand is why average people will back them up on issues against their own best interests?
President Truman's health proposals finally came to Congress in the form of a Social Security expansion bill, co-sponsored in Congress by Senators Robert Wagner (D-NY) and James Murray (D-MT), along with Representative John Dingell (D-MI). For this reason, the bill was known popularly as the W-M-D bill. The American Medical Association (AMA) launched a spirited attack against the bill, capitalizing on fears of Communism in the public mind. The AMA characterized the bill as "socialized medicine", and in a forerunner to the rhetoric of the McCarthy era, called Truman White House staffers "followers of the Moscow party line".
In 1945 Harry Truman had a proposal for healthcare (64 years ago), big business called it "socialized medicine" and it worked and today they are using the same thing. Even after hundreds of thousands have died under profitcare. Republicans and Ronald Reagan tried to use it to kill medicare. "Socialized medicare" will kill people. Republicans will say anything when big profits are at risk. Alot of these republicans after their run with the government will go to work for these health care companies they now support, against you.
Republicans know what angle they are going to use to fight health care for you, they have to get the sheep moving in the same direction. These republicans already have government health care, i haven't heard anyone of them giving it up?

Sue| 11.10.09 @ 8:45PM

Well, I guess I really didn't mean ALL of us. Some of us work in politics and we know how much they work and the damage they cause.

Crystal Ball| 11.10.09 @ 9:44PM

Taking You Apart

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22.....2#33841182

... "TKO'N!!"

P.S. For grown folks only

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4bDdjgVtAc

Dear Melvin| 11.10.09 @ 10:55PM

This is my who's on first skit =)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22.....8#33845178

Goodnight| 11.10.09 @ 10:56PM

& God bless the families of the fall'n solders.

Part 1| President Obama's Speech At Fort Hood Memorial Service
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mW7-IJnWbc

Playing Of Taps & Obama Places His Coins At Fort Hood Memorial Service

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXIVRWhU-xk

Supra Vaider| 11.11.09 @ 3:31AM

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Richard Baker| 11.11.09 @ 8:40AM

The country with the most Liberty and Freedom in history has millions who want it's destruction. Amazing. To you liberals who think that Free enterprise is a joke, look at the lifestyle you possess here and tell me where in the world you could live like this. There is no utopia or perfect system so grow up and deal with reality for once in your lives. Facts about the socialist/communist ideas you hold near and dear have no effect on you because your level of unreality is immense. Remember, Lenin himself understood that socialism leads to communism. Freedom and Liberty aren't a joke, though you seem to believe so, but are a rare commodity on this planet. This country wasn't started so a generation of spoiled children could throw it away. Tens of millions of us will not sit idly by as you attempt to destroy this country. Stay tuned, sportsfans. The descendants of the Founding Revolutionaries still live and we're mad as Hell.

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