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The Republicans Underestimate Their Strength

Just as Barack Obama overestimated his, which saw him helpless to prevent yesterday’s GOP landslides.

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Perhaps the only disappointment for Republicans yesterday may be (as of this writing) the results from the 23rd Congressional District in New York, which Barack Obama did carry last year. Readers of this column are no stranger to Conservative Party nominee Doug Hoffman, who I first rang the bell for in this space weeks ago.

The Republican nominee Dede Scozzafava was way too far out there for any Republican to support. She ran on the ticket of the Working Families Party just last year, an extremist socialist front group. She had ties to ACORN and the SEIU. She was endorsed by the far left extremist Daily Kos. She had a voting record in the state Assembly that was so pro-tax that the Democrat, Bill Owens, was running ads against her on her tax increase votes.

Scozzafava’s true colors were obvious long ago, but she rubbed it in the faces of those Republicans who supported her nomination by conspiring with the Obama White House to endorse the Democrat in the race after withdrawing, blasting Hoffman’s middle America supporters as the extremists. What this reveals is a fundamental problem with the New York State Republican Party, and its very viability. Scozzafava was nominated at four local nominating conventions by local party bigwigs. Any Republican who thinks the best way to win is to nominate ACORN, SEIU, union-puppet Republicans needs to become a Democrat. There is no role or function for such people in the Republican Party. If that is what the New York State Republican Party thinks, then it should just shut down and let the Conservative Party carry the fight against the Democrats.

But apparently some of Scozzafava’s local Republican supporters would rather vote for a Democrat than see an upstart, conservative, Reaganite challenger win. So as of this writing, the Democrat Bill Owens is ahead of Hoffman by a couple of thousand votes. To those small-minded locals who insist on loyalty to a left-winger like Scozzafava, I say what Reagan said in his famous 1975 CPAC speech: let them go their own way. As Reagan showed, for reasons of practical politics as well as principle, Republicans need to fly under banners of bold colors, not pale pastels. If that offends some badly confused nominal Republicans, then let them join the socialist party, as Scozzafava did. A Republican tent big enough to include Republicans with Scozzafava’s record can’t stand of its own weight. The rest of us need to fight for what we believe in, and win on what works, as we did in Virginia and New Jersey.

This race would have been won if the state party hadn’t been so foolish as to nominate someone as far left as Scozzafava to begin with. RNC Chairman Michael Steele needs to get involved here and bust some heads in the New York Republican Party, including Al D’Amato’s head. This sort of foolishness by the New York party is discrediting Republicans nationwide. It is encouraging counterproductive third party movements nationally that will just divide the anti-Obama vote, and break an emerging, conservative, Republican, Reaganite majority into two competing minorities, with the Obama left-wing extremists remaining dangerously in power.

The Democrats’ New World Government

Let me give you an example of the left-wing extremism that is causing voters to flee the Democrats already this year, and will only get geometrically worse every year through 2012. Next month, the world is scheduled to meet in Copenhagen to sign a new global climate change treaty. Lord Christopher Monckton, who served as a legal advisor to former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher accurately explains the draft of the treaty, saying: “I have read the treaty and what it says is this: That world government is going to be created. The word, government, actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity. The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to third world countries in satisfaction of what is called, coyly, a climate debt….” Lord Monckton notes that the words election or democracy or vote or ballot appear nowhere in the treaty.

The treaty specifically establishes a new international body called The Conference of the Parties (COP), which holds authority to administer and enforce the treaty. As the Washington Times explained on October 27, the treaty establishes a “global carbon budget” for each country, with authority for “the treaty’s governing bodies to limit manufacturing, transportation, travel, agriculture, mining, energy production and anything else that emits carbon” within any country party to the treaty.

The enforcement arm underneath the COP is the Copenhagen Climate Facility, which the treaty says is necessary because in order to save the planet, “the way society is structured will need to change fundamentally.” The Facility will consequently hold as enforcement powers, “such legal capacity as is necessary for the exercise of its functions and the protection of its interests.” If a country is found in violation of the agreement, the Facility will have the power to “undertake the measures necessary to bring the country back into compliance,” as the Washington Times explains.

The Washington Times explains further:

The Facility will be run by an executive committee, the membership of which “may include representation from relevant intergovernmental and non-governmental stakeholders.” So left wing pressure groups, animal rights fanatics, tree huggers, Al Gore or any other part of the environmentalist fringe would be eligible for executive committee membership.

This new world government is going to require a lot of funding. So the United States and other countries are required under the treaty to provide financing of $800 billion over 5 years to COP, with additional funding requirements to be assessed as needed. Indeed, the COP will have explicit world taxing authority over all treaty signatories, which would include the U.S. if we ratify the treaty. Moreover, once ratified, the treaty provides that a country cannot withdraw from it without consent from all the other countries under the treaty. Since America would be the biggest paying country, and most others would be drawing on that money, such consent will never be given even if a future President and Congress want to withdraw.

Is President Obama going to sign this treaty on behalf of America? Is he going to stand up to the world’s leftists and refuse?

Signing the treaty would effectively be a violation of the oath of office, because it would turn ultimate governing authority over America to an international governing body, disenfranchising American voters, and suspending their constitutional rights. This is so ridiculously and utterly extreme that any Democrat Senator that supports ratification of it, from Chuck Schumer in New York to John Kerry in Massachusetts to Carl Levin in Michigan to Barbara Boxer in California, will have no prayer of re-election. But are the Democrats going to desert the international left and say no to the climate change treaty, just when the rest of the world is lining up behind it? What will the environmentalists say?

Lyndon Baines Johnson

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About the Author

Peter Ferrara is Director of Entitlement and Budget Policy at the Heartland Institute, General Counsel of the American Civil Rights Union, Senior Fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis, and Senior Policy Advisor on Entitlements and Budget Policy at the National Tax Limitation Foundation. He served in the White House Office of Policy Development under President Reagan, and as Associate Deputy Attorney General of the United States under President George H.W. Bush.

Letter to the Editor View all comments (91) |

mr.reality| 11.4.09 @ 6:44AM

Bottom line in Congress Pelosi is one vote stronger.

Kitty| 11.4.09 @ 7:36AM

Not necessarily. The left did not fare well this time, even though Owens (D) won NY's 23rd district. But consider how close that election was. He was up against someone who was an unknown just a month ago, someone with no political savvy. It should have been a cake walk for Owens and it wasn't.

Hoffman's run energized conservatives everywhere, which must have the left very worried.

There must be a lot of Dems who are worried about getting re-elected. They'll have to decide if they're more afraid of losing their seat or crossing Pelosi.
...

loulou| 11.4.09 @ 4:35PM

Better to have Owens than Scozzafava. Hoffman did a fine job against enormous odds.

ggoblue| 11.4.09 @ 8:16AM

you are paddling down a river in africa...pelosi got deserted by at least 35 blue dogs this very morning....the election of 2010 is underway....we will be kicking their asses ahead of us and it is all downhill from here....

Appleby| 11.4.09 @ 6:56AM

Bloomberg is not the kind of Republican this Browns Ferry Redux was about. Bloomberg would only be a conservative in Canada. He is nothing like one in New York.

The persistent opinion that the GOP can stamp anything with the Republical label and the unthinking proletariat will march forward and pull the lever is what will sink this ship.

Sean| 11.4.09 @ 7:27AM

One in five call themselves Republican. The younger the person, the more dire the ratio for Republicans. The past is your future.

WRTolkas| 11.4.09 @ 7:44AM

Dear Sean,

That younger person has yet to draw a paycheck. And wait when that younger person has to buy health care insurance from a government run entity or face a financial penalty or jail time. And wait when that younger person is faced with inflation, higher taxes, more government intrusion in his life, and no meaningful job.

So to the contrary my friend, our future is your past.

Regards,
WRTolkas

ggoblue| 11.4.09 @ 8:28AM

one in five americans call themselves liberal. twice that call themselves conservative. please please please vote on healthcare in the house this week. pretty please???? only pelosi would be stu[bborn/pid] enough to do that....

Jabba the Tutt| 11.4.09 @ 7:29AM

I've predicted that it'll be the Democrats calling to see Obama's birth certificate next Spring.

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stephanie| 11.4.09 @ 7:45AM

Indeed and HAPPY day in Virginia!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stephanie| 11.4.09 @ 7:46AM

Indeed A happy day in Virginia!!! I'm so excited I can't type!

Margie| 11.4.09 @ 1:44PM

Congrats Virginia! Likewise about time in N.J. for us! We The People finally voted out the Socialist Corzine. It is indeed a happy day.

Don L| 11.4.09 @ 7:47AM

Let's give a lot of credit where it is due; two hotshots heard around the world; Rush and Glen Beck who had the courage to do what the GOP ((including Bush, McCain, Steele, and the rest of the wishy-washy wimps) failed so badly to do - come out fighting hard for what they believed in. So much for the leftist lie about negative campaigning. Sometimes, like with the Ten Commandments, going negative is the only way to go.

Bram| 11.4.09 @ 7:54AM

Lessons learned. Fiscal Conservatism wins. Social Conservatism – not so much.

I think Hoffman's social conservatism cost him. Drop the social stuff altogether - it is a divider. Social positions won't matter anyhow in a small, distant, conservative government.

Ryan| 11.4.09 @ 8:34AM

Not particularly. The rest of the races were won by social conservatives.

Bram| 11.4.09 @ 1:12PM

I live in NJ. If you think Christie was a social conservative you are projecting. Some special interest groups targeted Corzine for his social liberalism, that doesn't mean Christie is the opposite.

He promised to cut spending and taxes and restrain the liberal crazies. Period.

Nick| 11.4.09 @ 10:51AM

A lesson learned by someone who can't seem to learn.

Scozzafava was social LIBERAL!

And with one Facebook post, Sarah Palin killed her campaign. Mrs. Palin is a Social Conservative, by the way.

You might want to get the book "How to Learn Lessons for Dummies."

Margie| 11.4.09 @ 11:25AM

Excellent comeback. And guess what folks? Sarah Palin's gonna kill 'em again. Coming soon! I cannot wait!

Ronald Reagan won by being standing on conservative principles. It's how we will keep on winning. I can't wait for Sarah's next killing.

Serge from Wellington| 11.4.09 @ 1:25PM

How about the Republican initiated referendum in Mein? Voters repealed the same sex marriage law pushed through by the libs... isn't it a victory for social conservatism?

Jim O'Brien| 11.4.09 @ 7:55AM

This is the beginning of the end for the ACORN Administration in the White House. Start packing, BHO.

martin j smith| 11.4.09 @ 8:05AM

Va and NJ were the big ones. I think these two losses for Democrats are significant> I think the reason why Republicans underestimate their strength is because it depends on who you talk with. Speak to a RINO and all you will hear is"woe is us" we have to align with the Democrats. But speak to those who are actually Republicans or Conservatives and you get a more optimistic attitude. Of course the media loves the RINOS because they are The GOVERNMENT NEWS AGENCY. So it also depends on who you listen to. Speak to a Conserative and then you get optimism.

As for Bloomberg: This election in NYC is interesting. NYC is very blue. Obama is the President. Now I know Bloomberg is a nanny stater if ever there was one. Yet running against a mainline Democrat he still won. Bloomberg is a businessman first. He riuns the city along both business and political lines. He do not agree with alot of his policies, but the alternative is far worse. And what is very scary is that we will get the alternative. Not this time though. So there are enough people in NYC that in the relative scheme of things for this city are more than less realistic about economic matters as well as law and order matters as well so far. But just enough.

Bram| 11.4.09 @ 8:15AM

Unfortunately my local stations are from NYC so I saw many of the ads Bloomberg ran. He was running to the left of Thompson.

Bloomberg promised to Tax-the-Rich. Thompson warned that the rich are already fleeing NY and any necessary tax increases need to be broader based.

martin j smith| 11.4.09 @ 10:17AM

Bram: we live in different universes re: Bloomberg.
The differences between Thompson and Bloomberg are roughly ( very roughly ) those between MacCaine and Obama. No bargain to be sure. But I will take Bloomberg over the other. Remember one of these will be Mayor not matter what you think.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.4.09 @ 8:28AM

Pretty sharp insight so far, folks. The trolls must still be hung over. (heh)

Good point above, but social conservatives and fiscal conservatives ought to be able to get along together. Just don't dig in each other's outhouse. (heh)
T.gether E.veryone A.chieves M.ore (T.E.A.M.)
www.myteamusa.org

Mattled| 11.4.09 @ 8:33AM

Hoffman lost by 5. ooohhhhh-----those Republicans can't win. (VA? Nothing to see here--cough-cough--sweep). NJ? Obama billboards and $30,000,0000 in ads? Cough-cough----Corzine/Obama--cough-cough--losers.

Who knew Obama would become toxic in less than a year on the job, er, WH 4 year vacation?

Trolls will be resorting to verbal diarrhea invective in 3-2-1----

Louis Jenkins| 11.4.09 @ 8:53AM

With all due respect Mattled, there were a few of us who knew that Obama was toxic from the moment we laid eyes on him. Problem is most wouldn't listen even when you slapped them in the chops with the facts. Liberty and freedom, even death, is far better than the chains and slavery that the earthly Messiah offers. Stay under the bridge Trolls, Billy Goat Gruff is on the prowl.

Richard Baker| 11.4.09 @ 8:38AM

Liberals, do underestimate Conservatism. Please, please, please!

Ted Agnew| 11.4.09 @ 10:09AM

Don't worry, they will. They always do. It's an IRON CLAD LOCK!

Louis Jenkins| 11.4.09 @ 8:47AM

It was gratifying to see the returns in Va. and NJ, Conservatives should not celebrate too much, but any progress is worth happiness. NY district 23 was disappointing but we can be proud of the message that was delivered, and the Obamantion heard it loud and clear. There is a rough 12 months ahead, and beware, the libertards and their ilk can muster a heavy cannonaid if they have to. Never underestimate their strength and will, particularly when backed by Money Bag Soros and a liberal national political machine like we've never seen before. But an advantage can be taken from their self interest, haughtiness, and vanity. Put the "skeered on 'em, and keep it on 'em."

Rmm| 11.4.09 @ 9:00AM

It will be interesting to see Gibb,s give another brush-off press conference to these results. Zero was repudiated in a big way, since when does potus get involved in a gubernatorial race. He went to Jersey five times. Velvet Tongue is already losing appeal among Independents. I hope the trend starts to build and pick up momentum.

Alan Brooks| 11.4.09 @ 9:41AM

"There must be a lot of Dems who are worried about getting re-elected."

No, Republicans will help accelerate the recovery, getting Obama re-elected, plus Dems in blue states where the recovery is the most rapid.

You underestimate Obama in the same exact way you underestimated Clinton.

JP| 11.4.09 @ 11:51AM

This is not 1993, and Obama is no Clinton. He is a true believer. Logic dictates that he and the Dems must moderate thier agenda if they wish to survive through 2012 with thier majorities intact. But thus far, the Dems show no inclination to do so. If anything, they will redouble thier efforts between now and the Christmas Recess. They put everything into 2009 in order to get thier transformative agenda through. It was an all or nothing effort. Things could get interesting.

Alan Brooks| 11.4.09 @ 2:15PM

Want to wager?
no, because you aren't a fool, JP.
The GOP wins this battle, loses the war. Republicans WILL help facilitate economic recovery, a la '95- '95.
Then, the GOP runs yet another loser for POTUS in '12.

Alan Brooks| 11.4.09 @ 2:16PM

sorry, '95- 96.

And guess who benefits the most? the DNC.

Sean| 11.4.09 @ 9:52AM

You live in a bubble, WRTolkas. The economy will be fine, because it will be directed. Watch China and India and learn from them.

Did you see the raw footage of the Iranian dissidents this morning, defying the regime? They were all chanting "Obama!" In your wildest fevered imagination could you see them chanting "Bush!"

Matt Morehouse| 11.4.09 @ 10:15AM

Then let Him run for President of Iran and get out of my life. I'll vote for Him.
http:/conversationsaroundawoodstove.blogspot.com

Serge from Wellington| 11.4.09 @ 1:40PM

Aw, he's not eligible for Iran's presidency! Methinks, he should run for the highest office in Kenya. Then, I'll vote for him, too.

Serge from Wellington| 11.4.09 @ 1:35PM

Sean: The economy will be fine, because it will be directed. Watch China and India and learn from them.

There are much richer sources to get lessons in "directed economy" than that: Stalin's Russia, for instance.

Well, it looks the Messiah President takes his just from there, and not only on economy but on mass manipulation of Lefty zombies as well.

WRTolkas| 11.4.09 @ 5:17PM

Dear Sean,

I don't live in a bubble and have been walking this earth for near fifty-nine years. As a design engineer, and continuing my education, I work with fellow engineers from around the world and listen to them describe their countries. Also, I am a student of history and know the effects of run-away spending. I've witnessed the results first hand. Finally, someone has to pay the debt. How is this dept paid? Through taxes and the devaluation of the currency. A dollar today is worth only one-seventh of a 1960's dollar. How much more do we pay in taxes since the 1960s?

The economy will not be fine if we continue this spending spree. Please read about the fall of the Roman Empire or the fall of the Spanish Empire. Concentrate your reading on the devaluation of the currency and the tax structure.

Finally, I could care less who the Iranians chanted too. You saw how much help dear leader was to the Iranians.

And:

Do you know that for every new factory India builds there has to be built an electric power plant? India's infrastructure is much worse off than ours.

Regards,

WRTolkas

Roy| 11.4.09 @ 10:33PM

I'm in India right now and it is pretty glaring that private sector works, government(not public) sector doesn't.

You can tell by where the huge mounds of trash are.

Ted Agnew| 11.4.09 @ 10:08AM

The left, in its unbridled arrogance, still won't get it and will push full steam ahead with its lapdog lying liberal full court press providing cover.

It will take a 2010 blowout for the left to maybe, just maybe, get it.

Corzine's "concession" speech last night was a portrtait in cluelessness as he railed about fighting for progressive lunacy the rest of his life.

Liberals never get it. Never.

Margie| 11.4.09 @ 3:33PM

"Corzine's "concession" speech last night was a portrtait in cluelessness."

Good one!

Nick| 11.4.09 @ 4:57PM

Margie,

You actually sat through it.

I couldn't get to the clicker fast enough!

Margie| 11.4.09 @ 5:01PM

LOL Nick. No, actually I heard it on the radio. Wasn't it absolutely lifeless? My radio wasn't within my reach so I sort of tuned in and out in my brain while listening.

Lazy Jack | 11.4.09 @ 10:11AM

Not so fast. There are seventy seven years of socialist creep to clean up. Even the brief pause during the Reagan era could not stop it. And, it is not exclusively the province of the Democrats. Republicans have clipped corners of the constitution just a willingly as Democrats when their own pet ideologies or seats are at stake.

http://thanksforthelaughs.word.....n-bondage/

Matt Morehouse| 11.4.09 @ 10:31AM

Exactly. Big deal, so we won a minor skirmish in a minor battle in an on going major war.
Now is not the time to parade the troops through the streets of Liberalism. No, now is the time to clean our weapons, issue more ammo, and call up additional divisions.
http:/conversationsaroundawoodstove.blogspot.com

Margie| 11.4.09 @ 1:53PM

"Not so fast." Yes so fast. America is NOT a Socialist loving country. We will take only so much. Not time to try putting a damper on the huge hurricane that is beginning to sweep the country! Democrats=Socialists. We're pruning them out. Praise God!

Sean| 11.4.09 @ 10:22AM

Whazzamatter, Matt? Don't you care about the dissidents? They were airway darlings scant months ago, and a convenient wedge for the throwbacks against Obama.

Matt Morehouse| 11.4.09 @ 10:39AM

Of course I care about dissidents, in fact I care so much that I am more than willing to send our Esteemed Leader to lead them.
http:/conversationsaroundawoodstove.blogspot.com

Helen Donnelly| 11.4.09 @ 2:38PM

Yah, Sean....just like Obama helped the dissidents in Honduras. mmm, mmm, mmm. Such courage and conviction....

Margie| 11.4.09 @ 11:31AM

"Bottom line: if Obama can't make it here, he can't make it anywhere." Love it! Obama couldn't take even N.J. The next Left Coast. Let's hope clean 'em up Christie behaves like a hurricane and seeps up the corruption. There may yet still be hope!

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.4.09 @ 11:35AM

Guys, avowed socialists, (communists), always hit the (electoral) wall sooner than later, especially when their true colors bleed through as we are witnessing in these days.
BEWARE!
Now they go to the "bunkers" or the mattresses. We have one heck of a war staring us in the face, folks. I believe it is going to get very very bad.

...and probably very soon.
Please, we also have resources though. Together against communism, we are smarter, we are more courageous, more mobile, better trained, and more self-sufficient.
We must keep a sharp eye on the "canaries in our coal mine" though. We must maintain "command and control" in spite of the FCC.
Thoughts as to how we accomplish that?

Blackwatch| 11.4.09 @ 2:29PM

Ken(old texican)
If you truly believe that we are in for a real fight with the communists/socialists/fascist of the LEFT, and since they control the FCC--be really damn careful about organizing on the net.

Organize locally and in person. Dont use the phone to pass messages. Use a "cut out" to post messages to your group on an incocent public bulletin board. Be creative--the more creative the better.

JP| 11.4.09 @ 11:45AM

Owen's victory last night was a hallow one. He received a big assist from the RNC and Dede. Hoffman says he will return next year, which means Owens will most certainly vote with the GOP in 2010 if he wishes to win next year.

Too many people will take the wrong lessons from the Hoffman race. Just 5 months ago very few of the voters in NY-23 heard of him. And despite the RNC giving a $1 million in cash, and getting most of his funds via the internet, he was almost able to win last night. Owens had won by only 3% despite having the money advantage, better organization, and being a much more polished on the stump. The 2010 election will be much different.

Nick| 11.4.09 @ 12:06PM

JP,

Exactly. Great post!

Although, I would bet that very few had heard of him 5 WEEKS ago!

Margie| 11.4.09 @ 1:33PM

In 2010 Hoffman takes it. We The People will get to nominate him in a Primary this time. There was NO Primary this time around due to it being a special election and the Party Bosses picking Scozza, thanks to Obama's plucking out of the party of Rep. McHugh to be Sec. of the Army. Purposely done to spoil things, of course. Why McHugh said yes to Obama is another story. Anyhow~~ the Elephant never forgets. Republicans won't forget this. They will nominate him. Go Hoffman!

Sean| 11.4.09 @ 12:51PM

Your next president will be an Obama. Michelle, followed by Barack, followed by Michelle.

Serge from Wellington| 11.4.09 @ 1:48PM

Right on the money Sean! With a small correction: you speak about Kenya, not the US. Obviously, you didn't major in geography (I mean, political geography)...

Cervantes| 11.4.09 @ 10:11PM

Only if she can provide her birth certificate.

I wonder what songs they will sing about her in the schools though

Margie| 11.5.09 @ 1:48PM

LOL Sean. You sound so Hope-full. So full of "Change."

Bram| 11.4.09 @ 1:11PM

I live in NJ. If you think Christie was a social conservative you are projecting. Some special interest groups targeted Corzine for his social liberalism, that doesn't mean Christie is the opposite.

He promised to cut spending and taxes and restrain the liberal crazies. Period.

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Adam Smith| 11.4.09 @ 4:30PM

No, the Republicrats overestimate their strength and underestimate the ire of the fiscal conservatives.

It is clear from Michael Steele's comments that they do not understand this yet.

We want these clowns out of our lives to the extent possible. Both parties.

Let's try looking for professional governance and planning instead of more political games between the spoiled twin brats that are the two parties.

Michael Tomlinson| 11.4.09 @ 5:34PM

Obviously you prefer the profligate spending of Barack Obama and the Democrats. One reason the really big spenders now control the Federal government is self-described fiscal conservatives spend more time attacking the Republicans (who gave us low taxes and a booming economy) than Democrats. That's just screwed up thinking.

So-called fiscal conservatives (like Bush 41) would rather raise taxes than give the people back their money. That's what's wrong with the so-called fiscal conservative -- like the liberal he believes its government's money.

Michael Tomlinson| 11.4.09 @ 5:42PM

I love the so-called conservatives who can't handle the fact Republicans (the party of the center-right) cleaned up in every major election.

Had the 11 Party bosses in NY put a solid Republican up in NY 23 that would have been another GOP victory.

Last night was a grand old night for the Grand Old Party! So says a straight ticket lifelong Republican from the old school of Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush.

Margie| 11.4.09 @ 7:47PM

Hear, Hear!
"Last night was a grand old night for the Grand Old Party!"
Indeed it was.
As Ronald Reagan, a citizen of California once said to us all, "Freedom is not created by government, nor is it a gift from those in political power. It is in fact secured, more than anything else, by those limitations...that are placed on those in government. It is the absence of the government censors in our newspapers and broadcast stations and universities. It is the lack of fear by those who gather in religious services. It is the absence of official abuse of those who speak up against the policies of their government." He then went on to list four essential economic freedoms including,
The freedom to work--to pursue your living in your own way,
The freedom to enjoy the benefits of your labor,
The freedom to own and control your own property,
Finally, the freedom to participate in the free market.
These and other liberties must be safeguarded by and from government. Those who have recently gained the power to govern must be shown that there are limits they cannot pass. We conservatives will continue to resist the current administration's intrusion into our lives and work. Healthcare policies must be examined with the microscopic eyes of our citizens prior to enactment. In America, it always will be the Government that works for the people, not the people who work tirelessly for the government. We believe in people having the right to achieve their dream."

Richard Baker| 11.4.09 @ 9:01PM

Sean:
Still obtuse I see. Center of Mass.

JimBeam| 11.4.09 @ 11:05PM

Virginia: The Voters for Change stayed home and a much more conservative electorate showed up. Virginia went the opposite way of the President yet again.

NJ: Corzine was toast and only Daggett prevented this from being a cakewalk.

NY-23: A not-so-conservative Republican picked by local bosses won't fly, but a social conservative who doesn't live in the district and is backed by out-of-staters won't either.

Enjoy your year in Congress Mr. Owens. The GOP will get this one right in 2010.

The elections are not necessarily good news for the Republicans, but they are definitely not good news for the Democrats. If the Dems heed this as a warning, then 2010 losses will be minor. If they believe their own spin, then it will make 1994 look minor.

America is a center-right nation. Not a far-right nation and certainly not a left wing nation. The Republicans forgot the first part a few years ago. The Democrats don't seem to understand the last part now.

Sean| 11.5.09 @ 7:32AM

DICK, still the brave keyboard commando. Do you think you scare me?

Howard| 11.5.09 @ 10:15PM

One World Government? Sounds like one of those things in the Left Behind series. The Anti-Christ is here. Did anyone check for numbers on Pelosi's skull?

Margie| 11.6.09 @ 2:21PM

Not too sure about the Left Behind books, but I can give you numerous Biblical quotes concerning the Anti-Christ. Interested?

John Blake| 11.6.09 @ 10:37PM

Ideas are all that matter, label them what you will. Collectivist Statists of international (Comintern) or national (NSDAP) persuasion are atavistic reactionaries, ATRs, death-eating Luddite sociopaths reveling in Holdren's characterization of humanity as "seething maggots" [Holdren is Obama's cheerful, well-meaning "science Czar"-- ptui].

Extradite Soetoro!

rbblum| 11.8.09 @ 6:00PM

The Republicans will have learned nothing if they
ignore the written word of the US Constitution as well as not embracing fiscal & monetary responsibility or the values envisioned by our forefathers . . . Yet, it will be the direct involvement and scrutiny of independents who must see that the true course of rectitude is adhered to.

www.us-bapeoutlet.com | 4.2.10 @ 10:16PM

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