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Special Report
The Goldstone Report's Cold Logic
Those who claim the Goldstone Report was written simply to blacken Israel's name are missing the point. That is and can be done almost daily by directly feeding the media half truths and propaganda to use in articles that reinforce the narrative of Palestinian suffering at the hands of the occupying Israelis.
Rather, the purpose for producing the Goldstone Report was to provide a "rationale" for domestic courts around the world that are sympathetic to militant Islam to arrest Israelis -- whether they be political leaders, military officials or ordinary soldiers -- and prosecute them for war crimes under so-called " universal jurisdiction" laws.
Universal jurisdiction is the principle that if the political and legal institutions countries will not go after leaders or citizens who participated in crimes against humanity similar systems in other nations, at any level, can arrest and prosecute. It was a confection originally spun by leftists who believed that it provided the only means to hold war criminals accountable, particularly if their own country lacked the legal system to do so. Universal jurisdiction advocates maintain that such individuals can be jailed and prosecuted without due process or other legal restraints. Universal jurisdiction and the International Criminal Court are only supposed to be applied when a country does not or cannot act to prosecute and in limited cases. But as Henry Kissinger has observed: who decides when a country can't act or doesn't want to? Does it depend on the outcome someone wants?
In 2001 Kissinger (who himself was the subject of a universal jurisdiction arrest warrant) warned of an unprecedented movement to turn international politics into legal proceedings. Now universal jurisdiction is being used to bring about Israel's annihilation.
Goldstone can't do enough to recast the report and his leadership as a wholehearted effort to save the Zionist experiment from itself. However, anyone who took the time to read the 650-page report can see the inquiry was structured in a way to establish the grounds for universal jurisdiction:
First, show the operation amounted to crimes against humanity. The Goldstone Report dismisses all military tactics designed to eliminate the risk of engaging in asymmetrical warfare as "so-called operational necessity." Israeli military plans to hit targets, clear positions, hold areas based on intelligence and on the ground observation of units are dismissed as premeditated crimes. One example of a war crime: Attacking the Gaza police who are trained by Hamas, armed by Hamas, and blend in with Hamas to launch rockers.
Second, conclude that Israel's operation in Gaza was part a systematic effort to oppress the Palestinian people. Goldstone cites the razing of a chicken farm -- which provided eggs in Gaza -- and the bombing of a sewage system as war crimes, for instance, even as he treats the well-known use of Gazans as human shields by Hamas as mere speculation. It regards Operation Cast Lead as an extension of a policy of "repression" that has systematically deprived people in Gaza of their freedom.
Finally, the report claims, because Israel is unwilling to respond to the "repression" of which the war crimes are merely a part with "criminal investigations that comply with international standards the Mission supports the reliance on universal jurisdiction as an avenue for States to investigate violations of the grave breach provisions of the Geneva Conventions of 1949, prevent impunity and promote international accountability." Goldstone missed the hundreds of civil and military court investigations of IDF actions in Gaza.
The UN Human Rights Council has adopted Goldstone's recommendation encouraging every nation to prosecute Israelis for war crimes. And both were was taking their cue from anti-Israel NGOs they know, including the French pro-Palestinian organizations who sued the Israeli president, foreign minister and defense minister at the start of the war. As international law expert David Kaye notes: "…numerous prosecutors, particularly in Europe, will take the conclusions of the Report and initiate investigations under their domestic universal jurisdiction laws." Several Israel leaders have already canceled travel plans because they might be arrested.
Universal jurisdiction was conceived to insure that war criminals would be unable to hide from judgment anywhere on the globe. The Goldstone Report characterizes the soldiers (including my son who served in Operation Cast Lead), political officials and military leaders of Israel as a criminal element in the world community. Through universal jurisdiction it permits its enemies to turn the Jewish state into the Warsaw ghetto, another venue for keeping tabs, according to the Nazis, on the "criminal class." To the extent the Obama administration and American Jewish organizations such as J Street give legitimacy to the report by supporting investigations of the military operation Israel launched in response to terrorist attacks, they are complicit in this strategy. If that happens, Israel may truly be a nation apart.
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Big J| 10.23.09 @ 8:09AM
"To the extent the Obama administration and American Jewish organizations such as J Street give legitimacy to the report by supporting investigations of the military operation Israel launched in response to terrorist attacks, they are complicit in this strategy. If that happens, Israel may truly be a nation apart."
Not a matter of "if", but "when".
Support for Israel has been non-existent since this administration has taken over.
KyMouse| 10.23.09 @ 8:51AM
The best thing, and ultimately the only sure thing, that Israel has going for it is God, who always keeps His promises (e.g. Ezekiel 39:25-29).
However, there are also much smaller rays of hope from time to time. I'm so pleased to see that a legislator from my state, U.S. Rep. Geoff Davis, has dropped off the speaker roster for the J Street conference. I, and no doubt other people, had contacted his office with information about J Street's true position about (against) Israel. His wise decision to shun the J Street cesspool next week brought the number of ex-scheduled-speakers to 17, as of yesterday. What other conference has ever had so many speakers back out? J Street's thin veneer of support for Israel is being seen for what it is -- a mask that hides Israel's enemies.
Jim Hlavac| 10.24.09 @ 6:15PM
The fact that 17 (to date) dropped off the J Street list just shows how conniving and brain dead these 17 are -- didn't they try to figure out who the J Street was first? These are the vaunted representatives forming policy? Or where they hoping that they would get away with it? These are the people who represent us (you) -- someone who could not see through the fog of hate?
Time to throw these bums out. Wholesale change is necessary. If they hadn't been caught would they have resigned? If their names were put there without their permission where is their outrage and investigation? And still, there are others on the list.
Yep, vote them all out. Even those who "recognize" they were wrong, or recant -- they should resign in disgrace and penitence.
Jones Cavalagh| 10.25.09 @ 12:23AM
The fact that you're trying to defend a racist hate group like J Street just shows how idiotic and brain dead you are. A lot of those 17 didn't even know they'd been put on the list to attend your Israel-hating group's neo-Nazi bash. Why should they have to attend some wannabe-gestapo's hate rants just because one of those Satanic murderers put them on their list? These 17 are indeed the people who represent me, rather than Jew-hating traitor leftards like yourself, and if any of them live in my area, I'll be voting for them. If they'd agreed to attend once they found out what J Street really is, then yes, I would say they were a terrible disgrace (as you most certainly are) and should resign. Since they didn't, I think instead you should sit down and shut up and stop polluting our comments section with your murderous lies, you Nazi. I'd like to pin a medal on anyone who publicly denounces you and your hate group. Your kind should be sentenced to appear on Jerry Springer to have chairs and other heavy objects thrown at your faces for being such bigots and a racists.
Alan Brooks| 10.24.09 @ 3:19AM
Islamic feudalists OWN the Mideast. It is literally their private possession.
aspacia| 10.24.09 @ 3:14PM
No S#@t!
A Deist, Feminist, Goy, Zionist
S.L. Toddard| 10.23.09 @ 9:42AM
“Universal jurisdiction advocates maintain that such individuals can be jailed and prosecuted without due process or other legal restraints”
You mean in precisely the same way America has jailed suspects at Guantanamo and Baghram and elsewhere, entirely without due process? The same way we’ve captured entirely innocent people from all over the world, and far from any battlefield, and put them in cages for years without due process? Or the ones we’ve captured and “rendered” to foreign nations where due process is a joke, to have them tortured? Are these things Mr. Goldberg objects to? Somehow I doubt it very much. I imagine that to Mr. Goldberg, “due process” is something to be accorded certain, favored groups, rather than a value to be applied without exception, so excuse me if I don’t take his appeals to “due process” seriously.
If I’m wrong, Mr. Goldberg, please let me know.
“Through universal jurisdiction it permits its enemies to turn the Jewish state into the Warsaw ghetto”
That would be horrible indeed, if Israel were turned into a massive open-air prison where Israelis were denied freedom of movement or access to medical supplies and basic nutritional needs to the extent that their children were malnourished, where a hostile foreign army controlled their airspace, borders and internal affairs, and continued to seize, occupy and shrink that land perpetually. Now imagine if that scenario came to pass and was maintained for half a century - what you have is the plight of the Palestinians.
The Palestinians Suck| 10.23.09 @ 1:08PM
The Palestinians are the worst examples of human beings on the planet. What kind of person puts them at the center of their world? S. L Toddard, a man of duel loyalties.
James Taggart| 10.23.09 @ 1:27PM
How would you know if the Palestinians are the worst in the world? Seems likes a foolish statement to me. Who owns your "duel loyalties"?
Taggart Sucks| 10.23.09 @ 2:59PM
Wake yourself up from your paleo sleep.
Wesley Mouch| 10.23.09 @ 10:26PM
you seem leotarded with this "sucks" stuff all the time. Take the fork out of your eye & come back with an argument or leave the adults alone to discuss important things, child. ps the worst people in the world are the Canadians with there hockey & stuff.
Hank Rearden| 10.25.09 @ 12:38AM
Anybody who tries to find innocent victims of the muslim culture so they can hang onto their pathetic ideology only deserves a kick in the butt and an insult. Paleos and the left both try to blame America for the hideous behavior of muslims. Muslims have a long history of being at war with the West and frankly any other group that has the misfortune to share a border. Read a little Indian history (no Jews involved). Muslims rival the secular communists and nazis for killing efficiency. You ought to take a look at history. You seem childish and stunted by your ignorance.
I don't think that Canadians glorify mass murderers. They also don't try to raise their children to be mass murderers. Somebody who defends these truly disgusting behaviors has got some anti-Jewish deal going on or is ignorant and childish. In a way I have given you, Toddard and Taggart the benefit of doubt. I just think you are ignorant. Evil is a possibility though. I suppose they art not mutually exclusive.
bob alou| 10.23.09 @ 5:33PM
Pity those poor palestinians. You would think that some other country with whom they shared ethnic, religious, or cultural ties would have taken pity on them. If only such a country could be found. But since we know that is not the case, and they share no culture, religion, or other ethnic ties with any other nation and people we will continue to blame Israel when it defends itself and its people from the thousands of rockets being fired over the last few years. How disproportionate would your response be if your neighbor launched a rocket or two or ten at you house? When those who claim to speak for the palestinians do so without suggesting that the starting point is that Nation of Israel and its people can never be countenanced to exist then you will have an argument.
bob alou| 10.23.09 @ 5:35PM
Forgive me the last sentence of my reply to Stoddard should have read "then (perhaps) you'll have an argument".
yob luau| 10.25.09 @ 12:27AM
"You would think that some other country with whom they shared ethnic, religious, or cultural ties would have taken pity on them. If only such a country could be found."
Well, there's Jordan (from which they came and to whom they are all genetic siblings). But Jordan doesn't want them back. Neither does Egypt, as the breach-then-closure of the barrier between the Gaza strip and that country demonstrated.
Alan Brooks| 10.24.09 @ 3:23AM
Toddard is a crypto-antisemite who ought to blog at Buchanan's American Conservative, not TAS.
he's just here to pick our brains for what crumbs he can gather.
aspacia| 10.24.09 @ 3:22PM
Yes, you are very wrong Toddard. What would you do if you legally purchased a home, and the previous owner said no, you stole it and started shooting at you, your family and friends? Would you retaliate and give up your home? I doubt it.
The Arabs started the violence, and the violence against Jews is part of Islam. Israelis are trying to protect themselves.
BTW, more Germans and Japanese than Americans died in WWII--should we be put on trial for disproportional response.
NO! WE WON-AND THIS IS WHAT ISRAEL MUST DO TO SURVIVE; SIMPLY WIN AND ONLY ACCEPT UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER.
victor| 10.24.09 @ 10:05PM
Yo Toddy Boy,
Your suffering from a number of complaints: fuzzy math, anti-semitism, halitosis, flat head and bad breath.
A two state solution, sorry, but it was not a final one, was proposed in 1947 and was quickly rejected by your homeys.
Israel was founded in 1948 and was quickly, seven minutes later, by the always great Harry S Truman.
Nearly a million arabs fled and settled in neighboring countries such as Jordan and Syria and others.
They stayed in concentration-like camps for 20 years, but they were never really accepted.
Some became citizens such as in Jordan, but their citizenship was revoked. Pity. Shows how much the muslims adore their own brothers, eh?
Now for the fuzzy math. 1948-2009 is 61 years.
1967-2009 is 42 years. Neither is 50 years.
Israel was attacked in more than one case and she fought back and reclaimed her own lands.
No occupation there, Toddy Boy, you old PLO PR flack you.
These so-called refugees could have gone back to their own actual homelands, but chose instead to covet the land of Israel.
They came from Egypt, Turkey, Greece and other places.
Actually some of the so-called palestinian peoples were from that neighborhood as they were descendents of the Philistines.
The Philistines were from the gaza region, which is where they are right now.
Funny how things work out, eh?
victor| 10.24.09 @ 10:07PM
Correction:
Should be:
"Israel was founded in 1948 and was quickly RECOGNIZED, seven minutes later, by the always great Harry S Truman."
Wesley Mouch| 10.23.09 @ 9:47AM
I can't figure out what the fascination with Israel is all about here in America. It's none of our business, it's not in our national interest to be involved, nothing good can come of our participation in their affairs. I see an article on here every week about the place. I don't get it.
S.L. Toddard| 10.23.09 @ 10:03AM
Right? All about that one particular country. We don't see as many articles about Iraq or Afghanistan, I'd wager. It's almost as if some of us have a "passionate attachment," a "habitual fondness" for Israel. And, as George Washington (our greatest Founding Father) presciently warned us: “nothing is more essential” than that “passionate attachments” for “particular nations… should be excluded,” because “the nation which indulges towards another a… habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to… its affection… which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest”.
Washington goes on to warn that “a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.”
Nothing could be more relevant to our relationship with Israel today. It’s almost as if Washington saw into the future and spoke directly to it. Alas, one finds little reverence for the ideals of the Fathers these days on either Left or Right.
Bydand76| 10.23.09 @ 7:40PM
Toddard,
You are a frustrating person to debate with.
You have a good grasp of the situation, logic and carry a formidible knowledge of history and you seem to have some modicum of common sense, yet you continually maintain a position of backwards thinking. Why?
Israel has always maintained a position of Co-existence with Palestine. Not one of outright genocide which is the stated goal of her enemies.
To support a position that the plight of the Palestinians is lamentable and could be changed is, while noble and honorable, at best specious and convoluted. The Palestinians need to get onboard first.
Palestinian authority (Hamas, Fatah, PLO) all rests on the agenda that the State Of Israel cease to exist. Complete and utter destruction is the only viable option. It is this way in all of the Muslim countries and please spare me the debate on this. I haved lived in the Middle East as well as serving here and there is no love for the Jew at all. Trust me on this one ok? I know what I am talking about here. Besides we have already had this debate before and I won! LOL.
Anyhow,
That is what you fail to understand.
The same principle applies to our enemies and Israels in the current conflict we are engaged in.
There is no middle ground here. The is no quarter given or accepted. No gray area to find compromise. This is a fight to the death Toddard. Why do you think it has raged for so long? Why is it so hard for you to understand this.
I can understand your "paleo-conservative " point of view but, honestly man!
You reticence and self imposed blindness borders on the insane! This position of non-intervention and complete aquiescence to a theological driven fanatical madness is a complete enigma to me.
You (in a prior conversation) quoted some ding bat who goes on to list every negative thing that has happened to our military forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. Yet you turn a blind eye to everything GOOD that has happened as well. He said nothing about the spectacular job American forces have done in this war! You then use this negativity as a stepping stone to support your inane reasoning that somehow we are at fault for whatever the case may be. Israel, Conservatism, Iraq, Afghanistan, or whatever.
I dont get it. You make me angry and I want to beat up my computer when I read your posts!
I am beginning to suspect that maybe you take an opposing point of view simply for the sake of argument. That would be the only explanation for the logic paradox within your head.
Or is there a better explaination?
Alan Brooks| 10.24.09 @ 1:09PM
" I am beginning to suspect that maybe you take an opposing point of view simply for the sake of argument. That would be the only explanation for the logic paradox within your head."
that is called "picking your brains"; one (the Toddard) adopts a contrary position, the opponent (victim) argues back, and the Toddard gains info-- why do you think he knows so much?
Alan Brooks| 10.24.09 @ 1:13PM
Again, the scheme:
a) the Toddard adopts a contrary position and throws out his hook, line, and sinker..
b) the sucker rises to the Toddard bait on the line.
c) the Toddard reels in the line.
Alan Brooks| 10.24.09 @ 1:17PM
d) the Toddard cooks the sucker in a frying pan and eats him.
Lullaby's, Legends and Lies| 10.24.09 @ 1:59PM
I've fallen for A,B,C, and unfortunately D too. Toddard Sucks!! And the one time that I thought I won an arguement with him, he just ignored my response and left me hanging. But I took that as a victory anyway.
I'm just glad his Red Sox are sitting at home watching my Yankees still playing baseball this year. Let's go Yankees!!
victor| 10.24.09 @ 10:15PM
I heard that Papelbon, Beckett and Ortiz are going to the Washington Nats for cash and parking spaces at Logan International.
victor| 10.24.09 @ 11:08PM
Sorry, I got that wrong, Youklis, Bay and Ellsbury are going to the Nats and Papelbon, Beckett and Ortiz are getting their parking spaces.
In other Washington news, The other Hoyer, Steny, is taking his brother's Jed's spot as GM.
victor| 10.24.09 @ 10:18PM
"Toddard,
You have a good grasp of the situation, logic and carry a formidible knowledge of history and you seem to have some modicum of common sense, yet you continually maintain a position of backwards thinking."
This is Toddy that we're talking about.
You give him ingredients for a chocolate layer cake and he'll somehow give you a meatloaf in return.
aspacia| 10.24.09 @ 3:24PM
They are the canary in the coal mine; the front line against Islamic supremism and intolerance. Remember, we are the Great Satan, and they are the Little Satan.
Galen| 10.23.09 @ 10:01AM
To S.L. Toddard. You've swallowed the cool aid
Gitmo detainees are prisoners of war. Hamas and the PLO have turned Gaza into a Ghetto.
To Wesly Mouch. I think you're joking but remember (if you're not such orders have been placed on US diplomats.
A couple of weeks ago I recommended counter
terrorism.i.e. shoot "judges" and "prosecuters"
it may have to come to this.
S.L. Toddard| 10.23.09 @ 10:15AM
"Gitmo detainees are prisoners of war"
Not as that term is traditionally understood. Many detainees were swept up far from any "war" or battlefield - from their homes, at airports etc.
I don't care| 10.23.09 @ 1:04PM
You seem to care only about our enemies.
S.L. Toddard| 10.23.09 @ 1:58PM
Our most dangerous enemies are sitting in Washington, on both sides of the aisle and in the Oval Office. The rest are, comparatively, distractions.
And in any case, the Palestinians aren't *my* enemies. And they are only the U.S.'s enemies so far as we fund the occupation under which they suffer.
I still don't care| 10.23.09 @ 4:20PM
As bad as Obama is I can make a distinction between him and a bunch of murderous muslims. They are murderous in Pakistan. They are murderous in Africa, they are murederous where you find them. The Israel excuse is lame.
I quit caring eons ago! | 10.23.09 @ 6:06PM
Ditto! I still don't care!
victor| 10.25.09 @ 7:53PM
Hey Toddard, they don't care that you voted for Obama or that your not a Republican or a Christian, they will slit your throat after they slit ours. Feeding the alligators will not save you.
PS what lands are the Iraelis "occupying"?
Those lands were hers to begin with and they took them back in a war that was started by your homeys.
S.L. Toddard| 10.26.09 @ 11:35AM
I did not vote for Obama, I am a registered Republican, and I am a Christian.
aspacia| 10.24.09 @ 3:26PM
No uniform, no POW; we should have shot them as spies after interrogations.
Toddard, they want you dead too.
victor| 10.24.09 @ 11:15PM
That is "technically" true as they are "unpriveleged combatants" and not qualified to be prisoners of war, therefore, not covered under the Geneva Convention.
However, as unqualified prisoners of war, they get to spend the duration at a club; Club Gitmo.
With all the comforts of home.
That is, if that home was the local Greyrock Hotel.
Bob Miller| 10.23.09 @ 12:01PM
How cool can it get---international destruction of justice in the name of justice.
Ken (Old Texican)| 10.23.09 @ 3:28PM
Editors
Thank you for publishing this article. Fascinating insights there.
Mr. Goldberg, thank you. Please forgive the useful idiots here in the comments.
Two wonderful books come to mind "The Source"
and Exodus by Uris. I have been fascinated by a people that brought a desert to bloom.
I worry a lot about our president trying to sell out our own sovereignty to the thugs in the United Nations.
May Gd bless Israel.
aspacia| 10.24.09 @ 3:34PM
I love Uris: The Hag is great, but Mitchner wrote The Source
Ken (Old Texican)| 10.25.09 @ 10:01AM
Aspacia
...I know that :~)
I just ran out of electrons to write in Michner. Heck, I thought EVERYONE knew that.
"The Source" is in my mind Michner's finest work.
Wesley Mouch| 10.23.09 @ 11:19PM
This whole Israel thing is tired. Tired, tired, tired. If they get in trouble, let Israel deal. They're big boys. America out of Israel. America first, second & third. God bless AMERICA, that's what I say. Anybody argues with that, gets to leave out of the USA as far as I care.
victor| 10.24.09 @ 11:23PM
Actually Moochie boy, you're the one who is tiring.
As long as there have been Jews, there have been people, you perhaps, to hate them.
Israel is our friend and ally and we will stand with her. Why don't you leave and join your homeys the AlAqsa Brigade, Hammas, Hezzbollah and Al Qaeda.
PS I hear you look stunning in your jack boots and lightning bars on your sleeve.
Why don't you go and join Toddy for a few rounds of the Horst Wessel Song.
Here, let me start it off for you:
"The flag high! The ranks tightly closed!
SA marches with a calm, firm pace. "
Sean| 10.24.09 @ 8:20AM
"Brought a desert to bloom." Snort. The occupiers destroy Palestinian olive trees as part of their ethnic cleansing, destroy family homes when someone in that family has aroused suspicion, wall up the rightful inhabitants into ghettos, shoot handcuffed and blindfolded detainees..some Eden you've built there, jackboot.
Ken (Old Texican)| 10.24.09 @ 9:35AM
The Palestinians IN Israel live decent lives with their fellow Jewish citizens. There were not enough "olive trees" for squat in 1947. The bedouin goats ate everything.
Bydand76| 10.25.09 @ 8:46PM
Right...and the Palestinians are SO innocent, aren't they?
Suicide bombers who target childrens schools, mass indoctrination of their own populace, shooting handcuffed and blindfolded prisoners, destroying families simply because they are Jewish, declaring ethnic cleansing as a mandatory aspect of their religion. Dancing in the streets and rejoicing when airplanes are flown into buildings. Intolerance of anything that might lead to a lasting peacful settlement. Yeah, the Palestinians and their Muslim allies are certainly without guilt in this argument .
Typical Liberal nonsense from an un-educated anti-semite boobie!
Bydand76| 10.25.09 @ 8:49PM
The above post is in response to: Sean| 10.24.09 @ 8:20AM
Who is a typical liberal boobie
(Smile)
Yosemeti Sam| 10.24.09 @ 11:15AM
Cold logic?
Jack-in-the-box logic!
Wicked phenomenon of perennially scourging
Israel. Internationally - and home-based.
Wasn't enough for a Holocaust.
Wasn't enough for elements of the West and
the Arab brotherhood militarily resisting the re-establishment of a biblically sanctioned Israeli home-land. The 'Exodus' campaign of biblical land reclamation in 1947ish.
Wasn't enough for Israel to endure savage efforts
by the Arab brotherhood in 1967 etc to push
Israel into the Mediterranean.
Isn't enough for Israel to be on highest alert for
an Persian push of 'conquering' Israel with nukes;
have these turkeys learned nothing from the 300?
To have found favor with the psychiatric
challenged UN - this 'report' is spam for the
course.
Richard Baker| 10.24.09 @ 7:43PM
Mouch:
We, the US, were instrumental in the creation of the State of Israel after the murder of millions in Europe by the Nazis. Thank Harry Truman for that. We are a country with a Judeo-Christian heritage and the Holy Land, Israel, or whatever name you use causes us to be concerned. Are you willing to countenance the slaughter of millions of Jews, again? Tiresome though you may find it, the reality is that Israel is our only ally in the most despotic region in the world.
Anne Herzberg| 10.25.09 @ 6:34AM
For more information on NGO-initiated anti-Israel lawfare, please see my monograph: "NGO 'Lawfare': Exploitation of Courts in the Arab-Israeli Conflict" at www.ngo-monitor.org
Joseph Connor| 10.29.09 @ 12:40PM
Either we decide to trust the UN as the ultimate planet representation or drop the idea entirely. We can't do it sometimes, when the UN's vote is in convenience with our government policy on a question. If there is a vote against us it's a point where we need to start thinking.
Personally I have a few friends who are Jews, with different grade of involvement with Israel. Most of them sound like "kill as many Arab as possible. use any excuse to kill more". Well, the report in question tells about the same thing: collective punishment. Sadly, the Jews are doing the very similar things they suffered so much during WW2. Thank God there are no gas chambers for Arabs, but I'm sure the mutual hate would let that happen if there were no memories of Holocaust methods.