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The Reagan Prize

By Jeffrey Lord on 10.13.09 @ 6:08AM

It's time to create an international award for those who really bring peace.

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Nobel Winner Failure: Kellogg-Briand was an utter failure, as was soon evidenced with the rise of Hitler and Germany's drive to re-arm. Japan, another signatory, invaded Manchuria in 1931, a mere two years after Kellogg got his prize.

• 1931, Nicholas Murray Butler -- Butler was the President of Columbia University and an ardent left-wing peace activist. He was given the award not only for his strong support of the Kellogg-Briand pact but his well-publicized work in the cause of outlawing war. Unable to travel to Oslo, Norway for the traditional ceremony to receive his prize, Butler was lauded by Halvdan Kocht, a member of the Nobel Committee who, tellingly, was a respected professor of history at the University of Oslo. Professor Kocht praised Murray for being a staunch supporter of the "solidly developed foundation" for international peace that was Wilson's League of Nations, Chamberlain's Locarno Pact, and Kellogg and Briand's disarmament treaty.

Nobel Winner Failure: Butler's theories of how to bring peace to the world, epitomized by Kocht's specifically citing what are now regarded as three of the worst foreign policy failures in 20th century history, were predictably cited as exactly what they proved not to be -- "a solidly developed foundation" for world peace. Once again the Nobel Peace Prize was handed out to a proponent of a left-wing worldview, now actual treaties, that wound up pushing the world closer to war.

• 1934, Arthur Henderson -- Henderson was a former British Foreign Secretary (succeeding Austen Chamberlain.) Like Chamberlain, Henderson was a strenuous proponent of disarmament, and as such was made president of the Geneva Disarmament Conference of 1932-1934. Now dealing with a Germany headed by Adolf Hitler, Henderson persisted in his belief that a disarmament strategy would bring peace. The Germans, of course, finally walked out and the conference collapsed.

Nobel Winner Failure: Awarded the Nobel Peace Prize anyway, with no one seeing anything amiss in the fact of Henderson's failed strategy, Henderson persisted as what the Nobel Committee today admiringly praises as the "embodiment" of disarmament. In his speech accepting the Nobel Peace Prize, Henderson stoutly insisted he could not "conceive" that his approach to peace had meant failure. It did. The Nobel Peace Prize was again given to someone whose actions aided Hitler in believing the rest of Europe was unable and unwilling to stop him. Within a matter of years Hitler was fully armed and ready to begin his attack.

By 1939 the Nobel Peace Prize Committee stopped handing out the award. The Nobel Peace Prize would have no winners for the next five years. With ironic good reason. The world was ablaze in destruction and death as a direct result of the repeated failures of Nobel Peace Prize winners. In one of the more ironic notes of the looming war, the future of Norway itself now teetered on the brink. Then, darkness descended.

On April 9, 1940, Norway was invaded by the Nazis. Political activity in Norway was banned. Members of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee fled. Vidkun Quisling, a Norwegian fascist ("the Hitler of Norway") whose name today is synonymous with traitor, took control of the country for Hitler as some 350,000 German troops settled in to occupy the country. The Nobel Peace Prize headquarters itself barely escaped a physical takeover of its property, a fate avoided only after much secret negotiation with Sweden. (Norway and Sweden were once linked politically, so the Nobel Foundation in Sweden owned the Nobel property in Oslo, a point that saved the building, after intense negotiations, from having the Nazis literally move in.) In the sixth year, operating through Sweden, the Nobel Committee managed to name the International Red Cross -- a certainly admirable group that had much work on its hands coping with the horror bequeathed by the work of previous Nobel Prize winners.

Perhaps no image is more vividly symbolic as to the end results of the philosophy guiding the Nobel Peace Prize than that of Nobel officials, their Committee members in hiding having fled Oslo, humiliated as a Nazi officer strolls through the Oslo headquarters of the Nobel Peace Prize, eyeballing it as a Nazi acquisition. This while Quisling threatens a Nazi takeover of the Prize Committee itself, run by Nazi approved members of Quisling's government.

The in-your-face, up-front and all too inevitable result of the policies honored by those Nobel Peace Prizes was quite dramatically at hand for the Nobel officials themselves.

The resumption of the regular process for awarding the Nobel Peace Prize did not resume until 1945 -- after the Allied invasion of Norway, the capitulation of the Germans, Quisling, and their Norwegian agents -- and the not coincidental arrival of 30,000 American and British troops.

WHICH BRINGS US BACK to the idea of a Reagan Peace Prize.

The hard cold facts of history illustrate that the peace through strength policies initiated by President Reagan were a success. His belief in the importance of human freedom, in directly opposing tyranny and protecting liberty, combined with the maintenance and, when needed, projection of a strong military, ended the Cold War and the "evil empire" that was the Soviet Union. Reagan's strategy freed millions of East Europeans enslaved since the end of the Second World War, which in turn was brought on by the inexcusably wrong-headed, naive if well-intentioned policies of one Nobel Peace Prize winner after another.

Without question the world is divided today -- as it has been before. Now as in the period between the two world wars, the globe brims with despots, criminals, and evildoers. Now as then the cry goes up for Americans to just go along with the values of a presumed global majority, values that beckon as enticingly as they did in the days of the 1920s and 1930s yet historically have led to terrible tragedy. Now as then the fight is on over the issue of how best to obtain not just peace, but peace and freedom. And now as then, the Nobel Peace Prize is handed out to those whose philosophy of peace-seeking is at odds with the hard reality of achieving it. Reagan, who lived through the period when all these Nobel Peace Prizes were being handed out, understood that freedom and liberty was a necessary component to having peace.

It is not for nothing that President Obama, Al Gore, and Jimmy Carter have won Nobel Peace Prizes. They are in fact the lineal descendants of Woodrow Wilson, Austen Chamberlain, Frank Kellogg, Aristide Briand, Nicholas Murray Butler, and Arthur Henderson. Inheritors of a liberal worldview of how to obtain and keep the peace -- a worldview that is always widely acclaimed for its aspirations but never held accountable for its abysmal if frequently not murderous results.

Not in this group, not from these award-givers, would the names of Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, George W. Bush, or any of hundreds of less well known but equally committed activists for a real peace ever be found. It is not for nothing that the British winners of the Nobel Peace Prize do not include the name Winston Churchill.

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topics:
Ronald Reagan, Nobel Peace Prize, Appeasement

About the Author

Jeffrey Lord is a former Reagan White House political director and author. He writes from Pennsylvania at jlpa1@aol.com.

Letter to the Editor View all comments (153) | Leave a comment

petriearcpetrie| 10.13.09 @ 7:04AM

He did defeated the communist Soviet Union. Oh that is why because the people that vote for the Nobel are socialists communist themselves. The Nobel Peace prize has become meaningless, useless just like the United Nations.

Dazzle Smile Pro

Alan Brooks| 10.13.09 @ 7:56PM

I want a Silent Cal Prize for those who can provide am alternative to the chattering nabobs of motor-mouthism.

Alan Brooks| 10.13.09 @ 8:00PM

pardon, AN alternative.

the 'Silent Cal Coolidge Prize' for those exemplary citizens who keep their traps shut and don't say something foolish such as, say: Joe Wilson is a Racist, etc.

nysteeb| 10.14.09 @ 6:16AM

Afghanistan defeated the Soviet Union, not Ronald Reagan. The Terrorist-Appeasement award should be named after Reagan, though, because of the way he turned tail and ran from Lebanon after 220 Marines were murdered in their barracks in 1983. It was the first big victory for terrorists over America and led directly to 9-11.

martin j smith| 10.13.09 @ 7:33AM

It a great idea to develop an alternative prize to counter balance the Nobel prize. Here are some examples of reasons to award alternative prizes: Greatest Common Sense Leadership in Economics.
Most Forward looking Strategic Thinking in Foreign Policy. Freedom and Democracy prize in foreign affairs. The big cahuna would be: The Prize for the Greatest contributor to support of Human Rights as defined by our Bill of Rights.

Piffle| 10.13.09 @ 8:32AM

Chernobyl toppled the USSR, not Reagan.

Michael L. Hauschild| 10.13.09 @ 9:24AM

Right, and Three Mile Island Toppled Carter.

zman| 10.13.09 @ 10:22AM

Well my day is complete; a revisionist in our midst. Tell me, are you a public grade school indoctrinator?

Piffle| 10.13.09 @ 10:38AM

Public grade school indoctrinator? Tell me more. Who pays their salaries? Are there private school indoctrinators? Do they get tenure?

Margie| 10.13.09 @ 3:36PM

And conservatives are toppling Liberals everywhere!

Alan Brooks| 10.13.09 @ 8:01PM

Bhophal toppled Indira Ghandi :)

Alan Brooks| 10.14.09 @ 12:29AM

Oops a daisy. it was Bhopal.

not 'Bhophal'.

Laura Denton| 10.13.09 @ 8:36PM

Hmmm . . . from your statement, you obviously are not a student of history. If you were, you would know that the USSR was toppled because of the financial hole it found itself in, trying to keep it's military on par with the United States. Chernobyl was a tragedy, no doubt. It had nothing to do with ending the Cold War.

Piffle| 10.14.09 @ 8:21AM

Laura, from your statement, you're obviously illogical. Chernobyl put the USSR in that financial hole.

David Pipkin| 10.13.09 @ 9:08AM

This is simply an awesome article. Kudos to Mr. Lord. I love the idea and every bit of its evolution, although the idea of members of Congress sitting on the committee gives me pause. There are many so-called Conservatives who believe that Mitt Romney or Fred Thompson would be suitable choices to sit on the board to award the Reagan Peace Prize. I would suggest that only US Congressmen and women who have won the award would then be allowed to a seat on the board, once they have proven their worthiness by actually winning it. I would be all for a board that consisted of The Heritage Foundation, along with certain media personalities such as Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Alan Keyes and Mark Steyn. Even Mr. Lord himself has proven his worthiness in writing this very article. I especially enjoyed the inescapable presentation of the facts of history, and the again-demonstrable failure of liberal foreign policy.

Mike| 10.13.09 @ 9:14AM

From the dictionary:

piffle:
–noun 1. nonsense, as trivial or senseless talk.

–verb (used without object) 2. to talk nonsense.

How appropriate.

Mike Johnston
SFC USA (RET)

Piffle| 10.13.09 @ 9:28AM

Thanks, Mike, for the support.

Red Phillips| 10.13.09 @ 9:22AM

The only American politician who deserves a Nobel Peace Prize is Ron Paul. Despite the hysteria of the interventionist pseudocons, Obama's foreign policy is Bush's third term. Liberal multilateral internationalist world policeman vs. "Conservative" unilateral internationalist world policeman. And the sad thing is that most of the interventionist faux cons don't realize that Obama is just the flip side of the same internationalist coin and you are getting all worked up over rhetorical style, not actual policy. You would all have a stroke if a real conservative non-interventionist policy was enacted.

Margie| 10.13.09 @ 3:40PM

You'd make a great psychiatrist for the Left.

Paulitical Eunuch| 10.13.09 @ 5:56PM

Tell us what that might be?What sort of foreign policy would the be, eh?

Truth to Power| 10.13.09 @ 7:25PM

This can give Sasha Cohen another idea on how to make the silly Ron Paul look foolish again. He can tell Ron he is from Norway and that Ron is up for the Peace Prize. The article demonstrates how ridiculous this award has been and Red wants to give to his man. This kind of worship is painful to behold. Ron Paul is not as bad as his supporters.

dcd| 10.13.09 @ 10:19AM

Sounds like an excellent idea. The first step, of course, is to stop sitting around and whining that life isn't fair like conservatives usually do. Endow a prize.
Part of the Nobels strength is that it associates the more concrete achievements of the science (chemistry, physics, medicine). So not only make the prizes bigger than the Nobels but more specific (astrophysics, quantum physics, organic chemistry...) and recognize achievements towards peace (a rather fluffy term) such as anticorruption, free media, and sound fiscal policy.
But this like most of the conservative agenda is just so much smoke. Like raging at hollywood for not making the movies conservatives like (if you don't like it make something else).

Margie| 10.13.09 @ 3:42PM

How about we make it the New Age Troll Prize?

Michael L. Hauschild| 10.13.09 @ 6:46PM

dcd,
Please excuse Margie she is the poster girl for ignorance and is probably the most deserving for the “Joe Biden, Foot in Mouth Commemorative Plaque” for stupidity as well. I swear, the hate and intolerance that radiates off that woman is palatable.
Nobel Laureates are responsible for such things as penicillin, most of the vaccinations that save our children from horrible diseases, as well as the chemo and radiation technologies that battle cancer. The human suffering and agony that has been eliminated through the generosity by these “socialists” by their endowments to researchers, doctors, and genuine soldiers of humanity is immeasurable.
The peace award that originates from Nobel’s Legacy is, in this instance as in instances in the past, of course suspect as to the recipient’s ideological position.
But that ideological slant goes with the territory, now if we want to create a “conservative” version of the Nobel Awards more power to you, but to make it anything comparable we have some pretty big shoes to fill and we are about a century of serving humanity behind.

Margie| 10.13.09 @ 7:34PM

Excuse me Mr. Hauschild,
Liar!
I was responding to the post of the anti-conservative "dcd" above, as he or she would deserve the Nobel herself. It had nothing to do with your phony premise that you charge me with.
As for hate filled, I would say you fit that bill quite well in your response to me.

DaveS| 10.13.09 @ 11:11PM

You're right about the scientific awards. But surely even you realize that many Nobel awards are given out by legitimate Norwegian institutions and not by some gang of five of the Norwegian parliament - as the increasingly indefensible Peace Prize is.

kerry| 10.14.09 @ 11:21PM

aren't the last 19 or so Nobel's in health/research from either Americans or foreigners working on research in the U.S. of A???? I'm sorry, the U.S. has been leading the world in health care research for a while now. We have eased a lot of suffering in the world.

PT| 10.15.09 @ 2:44AM

I find it amusing you castigate Margie for ignorance and stupidity when you clearly do not the difference between palatable and palpable.

Ken (Old Texican)| 10.13.09 @ 10:25AM

Well Red
I personally think Ron Paul is a whack job.
You and I both have benefitted wonderfully by
PAX AMERICANA during the last 65 years.

In fact, every American has benefitted greatly from Pax Americana.
Yes, we formed Pax Americana reluctantly during the closing days of World War II. Thank God for Harry Truman and Dwight Eisenhower in that regard.
Europe was destroyed, and we looked around at a crumbling of their colonial empires with all the associated power vacuums and chaos that HAD to be filled, or at least alleviated.
The only choice was to retreat again to fortress America, and let the true believer communists form Pax Internationale.
The ultimate termite mound world wide that might end the hopes for liberty or freedom for a whole world outside our borders.

We chose to shoulder our honestly felt responsibility to try to be a power for good in the world.
Yeah we stumbled around a lot, screwed up a lot, etc...BUT!
Overall, Pax Americana has been the most benign power the world has ever seen.
Who would Ron Paul have chosen to hand the pieces to at the end of WWII?

And whoever he handed the world to, what shape would the world be in today...Tovarich?

No, Ron is a nice whack job who forgets that there truly is a frightening world out there, and in some places they really do still kill you.... and eat you.

There is a Scripture that reads... "To whom much is given...much is required."

I spent a number of years in the third world. Ron's followers probably never have. I KNOW how much so many peoples look to us in hope for a better future. If nothing more than to think: "If they can do it maybe someday we can."

So
I sincerely thank every single man and woman in uniform and not that has gone out across the world on behalf of Pax Americana.

Who do you want to flavor the world's future?
Don't bog us down in mindless utopian trivia.
Somebody will have a "Pax". Who would you and Ron like it to be?

Piffle| 10.13.09 @ 11:31AM

Why was Vietnam returned to colonial rule postwar, after Uncle Ho was promised sovereignty by the US for his help against the Japanese? Just a "stumble"?

Michael Tomlinson| 10.13.09 @ 12:03PM

Ask the Democrats it was their policy. Truman did what FDR promised and gave the country back to France. It seems that Democrats just have a problem with democracy.

Piffle| 10.13.09 @ 12:43PM

I don't think Republicans raised any objections, but I made the point in response to Ken's post about how Pax Americana benefits everyone. No one saw any good from this one, even France.

Tim| 10.13.09 @ 12:19PM

Why yes, an excellent point, they've done much better as a Soviet colony than they ever did as a Chinese, French or American one.

Piffle| 10.13.09 @ 12:51PM

Give your head a shake, Tim. Soviet?

Returning to the Reagan Prize idea..meh. Knock yourself out. Just don't expect everyone to genuflect at the mere mention of his name.

Tim| 10.13.09 @ 1:47PM

Yah, Soviet- the Empire that Reagan destroyed .

Margie| 10.13.09 @ 3:43PM

Piffle,
Do you piffle while you work?

Red Phillips| 10.13.09 @ 11:31AM

"I personally think Ron Paul is a whack job."

A "whack job?" Not misguided or wrong but a whack job? What is it about interventionist "conservatives" that makes them so quick to resort to invective? Especially invective that implies mental instability. You do realize the left does that to you, don't you? You should be ashamed of yourself.

Quick resort to invective reveals a lack of support for your position. Dissenters must be shouted down and demonized rather than reasoned with lest their heresy take root. (It already is, which is why the increased hystreria.)

I have called "conservative" interventionism counterproductive, unconstitutional, un-Christian, thoughtless, and many other things and I have even suggested that I find the war as first resort policy that you advocate disturbing especially for people who consider themselves Christians. But I have never suggested that the other side is full of "whack jobs" because it is a meaningless smear. It carries no information. It adds nothing to the debate. It is a smear for smear's sake. Perhaps you would like to retract it and label Paul and his foreign policy something that actually conveys some information. I'm sure you think it is naive. Try that.

Michael L. Hauschild| 10.13.09 @ 11:51AM

"....war as first resort policy...." Red, you have no idea.
As we speak the HALO chutes have deployed above your domicile and the target acquisition lasers are dancing on your vehicle, rooftop, and lawn mower.
Your misrepresentations of Team America's foreign policy are about to cease, the death merchant Ken is in the team bus and his hand is reaching for the button.

victor| 10.13.09 @ 8:31PM

And you wanna talk about hate filled, Michael? What's the matter, your Liberaltarian interests been disturbed? Attacking the messenger are we? Thought that was against your rules of "civility." I notice you're not defending Ron Paul, but instead you are attacking those who "dare" criticize him.

Ken in People's Republic of MD| 10.13.09 @ 1:05PM

Ron Paul is a whack job.

Margie| 10.13.09 @ 3:45PM

There he goes again (Red Phil)... psychoanalyzing us.

Michael Tomlinson| 10.13.09 @ 12:00PM

"Well Red: I personally think Ron Paul is a whack job. You and I both have benefitted wonderfully by PAX AMERICANA during the last 65 years. " Ken you nailed Paul, but he is also the King of Earmarks -- a real porker despite all his hollow rhetoric.

Ron Kessler's article on Newsmax about the Nobel "Piss" prize is spot on. George W. Bush in fighting AIDS and starvation in Africa along with the American taxpayers have done more for world peace or humanitarian outreach than all previous winners combined.

Frankly, who cares what 5 Euro-trash women think anyway. By awarding the "Piss" prize to Obama they focused a spotlight on his failed Presidency and its failed foreign policy that is making the world more dangerous. Considering how badly he is screwing up our economy and thus the worlds he should have gotten the prize for economics too.

Red Phillips| 10.13.09 @ 12:23PM

MT, will you at least be intellectually honest and admit that the interventionist foreign policy you support is much closer to Obama's foreign policy than it is to a foreign policy of non-intervention? A straight forward yes or no answer without evasion would be appreciated.

Margie| 10.13.09 @ 3:48PM

I can't honestly intellectually say that I believe you are being intellectually honest. So now what?

Margie| 10.13.09 @ 8:36PM

Oh dear Mr. Tomlinson, I am going to have to pass the award presented to me by Mr. Hauschild (above), on to you, as you are exhibiting similar symptons of "hate" and "ignorance" and "stupidity," by speaking thusly. How darest thou?

Lullaby's, Legends and Lies| 10.13.09 @ 10:36AM

It’s a great idea (The Regan Prize), but to do the award right, you’ve got to do a reverse prize each year too. The Non-Freedom award of the year, and just because he’s the oldest one that’s still kicking at the moment, that first Non-Freedom award would have to go to Fidel Castro.
Then maybe next year it could be, Chevez, or Ahmadinejad or that Ass from North Korea.
Then of course, you can add the Infamous ones of days gone by, as automatic inductions each year, like Hitler, Stalin, or S.L. Stoddard (Ha, Ha), and whoever is the current President of Norway (just to let them know, this is an F-U to them and their ridiculous Peace Prize that never brings peace). But you probably don’t want to do those last two, because they miss my point completely. I was going off track there, like I sometimes end up doing.
So now? Where do we send the money?

Michael L. Hauschild| 10.13.09 @ 11:31AM

If you think for one second the world needs another award, presented by a group to that same group then you are in effect a de facto supporter for the Nobel Prize. Exactly your same counter point on the left will ridicule your choice and simply use your own post (simply switching the phraseology from “right” to the “left” to promote their own ideology.
Got some cash to spare? Here’s an idea, send the money to Ken, Sarah, or Rubio not to create some subset of millionaires for self promotion just because they wrote a book, or are in the process of buying a football team and need another trophy.
Good Lord, they are, as we speak, destroying the greatest health care system in the world.
(I posted this in a lull in the coverage by the way.)

Al Adab| 10.13.09 @ 11:24AM

How about the Abe Lincoln award. "You can fool some of the people all of the time, all of the people..." Well you get the idea. I can think of several serving elected officials well deserving of such an award.

Also, Allan Drury, author of Advise and Consent, in one of his enjoyable follow up novels named his news anchor man Frankly Unctious. That might not be a bad award to establish too. I sure the government media could name several of their own.

Jim O'Brien| 10.13.09 @ 11:42AM

A British knighthood is also not worth the toilet paper it is printed on. Sir Ted Kennedy was knighted --- which tells me everything I need to know.

Tim| 10.13.09 @ 1:58PM

Which proves, as if anyone wanted any proof, that the benighted can be knighted.

Tim| 10.13.09 @ 11:46AM

A great idea Mr. Lord. but how do we know that in a hundred years they won't be giving it to a space-arafat?

Margie| 10.13.09 @ 3:51PM

Tim,
You are right to suggest this. Why, with the all the new age "conservatism" (take a look around) rearing it's ugly head, who's going to protect it?

Tim| 10.13.09 @ 4:09PM

Actually there's no need to wait a hundred years, I can picture a panel with almost any three sitting GOP senators easily nominating...Barack Obama. McCain would do it just to piss off of conservatives. Others to show "bipartisanship" and still others would trade their vote for a bit of tasty pork.

Michael Dooley| 10.13.09 @ 12:43PM

The sad part (or more exactly the horror) of all this is that when America withdraws its presense from Europe, the French, the Germans, the Dutch and all the rest will revert to what they all were quite good at in the past: killing each other in great numbers. Oh, they might take a few years stretching their legs; but before your know the old juices will start firin' up just fine. Then Ron Paul can sit back in the old rockin' chair eating cheese nachos at his Texas sod hut and tell us how he had been right all along.

I can't decide which will be worse.

Piffle| 10.13.09 @ 12:55PM

Americans killed each other in great numbers after they had effectively obliterated the native populace. Are they doomed to repeat, Michael?

Tim| 10.13.09 @ 1:48PM

He has a point, I'd take the Netherlands over Detroit.

Margie| 10.13.09 @ 3:53PM

Pfffffffffffffffffsssssst. Your balloon just popped.

Joe| 10.13.09 @ 12:52PM

Excellent Idea, Mr. Lord. I hope it gets traction. Thanks for educating on the sorry history of Nobel Peace Prize.

Ken (Old Texican)| 10.13.09 @ 2:31PM

Yeah, Red! A three pointer into the punchbowl!

You just never do get around to answering direct questions do you? Oh no, you just soar above the fray in your fantasy world and Paul's fantasy world.
You cannot discuss reality, so you acuse us of name calling. OK ! Answer the questions below.
I believe the above and below. Please disabuse me.
Simple question then. Had you been present when Cain attacked Abel to kill him, would YOU or Ron have "intervened"?

(copy paste from above)
Ken (Old Texican)| 10.13.09 @ 10:25AM
Well Red
I personally think Ron Paul is a whack job.
You and I both have benefitted wonderfully by
PAX AMERICANA during the last 65 years.

And whoever he handed the world to, what shape would the world be in today...Tovarich?

No, Ron is a nice whack job who forgets that there truly is a frightening world out there, and in some places they really do still kill you.... and eat you.

There is a Scripture that reads... "To whom much is given...much is required."

So
I sincerely thank every single man and woman in uniform and not that has gone out across the world on behalf of Pax Americana.

Who do you want to flavor the world's future?
Don't bog us down in mindless utopian trivia.
Somebody will have a "Pax". Who would you and Ron like it to be?

Margie| 10.13.09 @ 4:25PM

Great post, Old Tex!
But how dare you speak such common sense to such an intellectually advanced person? We must try to "understand" his viewpoint. We are the new "know-nothings," the "dispensibles" of the universe.
~Bah! Humbug! This Ron Paul Libertarianism is a blight! It is yet another fraudulent Leftist doctrine that is an enemy of what the Founding Fathers wanted for our republic. They'll keep trying to disguise themselves as For Freedom, but we won't be fooled!

Red Phillips| 10.14.09 @ 8:58AM

Ken, I have no idea how to reply to your post specifically because it is incoherent gibberish with a bunch of dogmatic assertions and a shaky premise that you put forward as fact. I disagree with the premise. There will either be Pax Americana or Pax Someone Else. Umm ... well no.

Had we not intervened in WWI, which was none of our business, there would have been a more just peace and very likely no WWII. So our meddling in WWI, against the better judgment of heartland conservatives and populists at the time, did incalculable harm.

If you want to espouse US world intervention in the name of universal peace and human rights, then be my guest. I would be more than willing to repeal the laws against Americans being mercenaries and allow you to have at it. But leave the US military, which is Constitutionally constituted for the defense of America not the world, out of it. And please do not call yourself a conservative or delude yourself into believing that what you support is any kind of conservatism. It is not. It is Jacobinism pure and simple.

If America wanted to do some real good in these countries, as an affluent Christian nation, we should send missionaries to convert them to the True Faith instead of soldiers to convert them to the new religion of universal democracy.

Marc Jeric| 10.13.09 @ 3:20PM

Ever since the demise of the USSR (thanks, RR) the communists of Norway call themselves "socialist-left" to avoid the unfortunate association. In our country they call themselves "liberals" and "progressives".

Margie| 10.13.09 @ 3:55PM

..and now, in some cases, "conservatives."

Curtis Dietz | 10.13.09 @ 4:31PM

No American has the right to criticize Neville Chamberlain. He declared war on Hitler after Poland at least, even though Britain were not ready. The US sat around for two years watching Europe burn, with a cowardly congress and defeatist anti-semite ambassador in London, one Joseph Kennedy.
The gross misunderstanding of the tragedy of Chamberlain is that it has led to a parade of little "Churchill want to be" politicians looking for the next Munich. To be a peace broker has become pollitical suicide. So now we have opted for eternal war, 8 years and counting. Are we having fun yet?

Ken (Old Texican)| 10.13.09 @ 5:12PM

Hello Curtis Ditzy (heh)
Pay attention! We have not been at war for 8 years, and no it is not fun yet.

We have been at war for 68 years and counting.
WWII, The cold war, Grenada, Somalia, Kosovo, AIDS in Africa, Desert Storm, and jihadism.

It still aint fun, but America still stands for freedom and decency, until 2009 at least.
I want to thank every American again who has honorably upheld Pax Americana.

Margie| 10.13.09 @ 5:56PM

As for the Reagan Prize, I wouldn't be against it. How could I be, I'm a Reagan conservative and a Republican, it's ingrained in me, actually I was born with it already in me. It's God given. I'm for what is good, and for anything that promotes true conservatism. Who would protect it? We would, that's who. You can't sit back and say don't do something for fear it will become corrupt. Besides, Reagan conservatism won't ever die, because it's based on Truth. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

Robert P. Kirchhoefer| 10.13.09 @ 6:01PM

Yes, yes, a thousand times YES! We can only sit on the sidelines so long. The Left can have all of its empty symbolism and self-ingratiating buffoonery. Their tired ideas won't feed the hungry, clothe the naked, or employ the jobless, and they certainly won't keep the peace. Great article Mr. Lord. I hope this gets some traction!

Ken (Old Texican)| 10.13.09 @ 6:32PM

Margie
I'm stickin' to it with you!
(Check out the paganism thread today.)
Robert P. K
I have coy/pasted that above to my permanent documents. Thank you

DaveS| 10.13.09 @ 8:18PM

When a high school senior, my English (i.e. NOT language arts) teacher asked the class (reminder: at the height of the Vietnam war) what was more important: 'peace' or 'freedom.' The overwhelming consensus of the seniors was 'peace' (I was in the distinct minority.) Her correct answer was 'freedom' and I won't ever forget the 'debate' and the answer. Anything named for Reagan should be a freedom prize so as not to tarnish his legacy and that of so many others with the 'peace' connotation. Another great thing about Obama getting the leftist's prize prize is that not he, nor Carter nor Gore will ever get on Mount Rushmore. Put Ron's likeness on the Rock where it belongs beyond the wildest protestations of the Left.

Margie| 10.13.09 @ 8:54PM

What a great post! I like your idea too about the Freedom Prize. And most of all the idea of putting Reagan's likeness on Mt. Rushmore. Don't know if it's possible, but it just goes to show how much we loved him.

victor| 10.15.09 @ 9:44PM

Yes, absolutely, Put Truman and Reagan side by side. The beginning of the Cold War and the End of the Cold War. The Alpha and the Omega.

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Joe D.| 10.13.09 @ 10:10PM

I concur with the idea that it should be a Reagan Freedom Prize, not a peace prize. They can continue finding new Neville Chamberlain's to give the peace prize to.

DaveS| 10.13.09 @ 10:43PM

Thanks, Margie and Joe D. All that's left of insignificance is the forgone 2009 Man of the Year prize from Time.

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Dennis D| 10.14.09 @ 8:51AM

Carter ignored the genocide of Pol Pots killing fields. I guess that makes him a peaceful man.

Kenneth Kurtz| 10.14.09 @ 4:16PM

I think it should be the Reagan Freedom Prize. As the Nobel proves, "peace" is subject to aspirational delusions. To whom have Rigoberta Menchu, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, et al actually brought peace? No one. And many Nobel winners have proven over time to be mere appeasers who brought only the peace of the grave.

But Regan, Thatcher, John Paul II and Lechs Walensa brought freedom to hundreds of millions.

Freedom is not won by flowery rhetoric and delusional ideology. Freedom is much harder work than that.

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