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Pelosi to Polanski to Jennings: Why Sean Hannity Is Right

By on 10.6.09 @ 6:08AM

Obama safe school czar reprises NAMBLA: A green light for child molesting?

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Why is this import ant in the case of Mr. Jennings?

Sean Hannity is once again asking the questions that need to be asked here, focusing on the underlying attitude that was so strikingly apparent with Pelosi during the Foley episode. Jennings, by his own admission, when face to face with a boy (let’s say that again — a boy) who came to him and revealed what in fact was a case of child molestation — suggested a condom! There was, apparently, no looking into the incident by the account of his defenders. Jennings now says he made a mistake. No kidding?

Hello? Is anybody home?

Well, yes, there is both somebody and something at home here. Something that is truly monstrous. And somebodies aplenty willing to excuse that something. The something is a left-wing philosophy that doesn’t blink about adults sexually preying on kids.

Let’s focus for a moment on Roman Polanski and his child rape of a 13-year-old girl. When one goes back and reads the actual transcript of this court case — the case that caused Polanski to flee the country — it is a stark reminder of exactly what is just no big deal with many in the film community. Since this is, as they say, a family friendly publication, we will keep the details to a limit.

The girl testifies that under the guise of taking her pictures she is fed champagne followed by a Quaalude. Why did she take the drug? Says this child, 13 years old at the time: “I think I must have been pretty drunk or else I wouldn’t have.” Polanski then instructs this child whom he has gotten both drunk and drugged to remove her clothes and get into a Jacuzzi. More pictures are taken, which follow others taken in various states of undress. Polanski then undresses and gets in the Jacuzzi. He takes hold of her, at which point the girl pleads a case of asthma (which she doesn’t have) and says she wants out. She gets out and Polanski gets into a nearby pool, trying to coax her in there. She gets in — and out — quickly and untouched, then goes into the house to dry off in the bathroom. Polanski appears and she tells him she wants to go home. He tries to get her to lie down in the master bedroom. She refuses and goes to the living room, sitting on a couch in her underwear and a towel. She was, she says on the stand, “afraid” and wanted him to take her home. He sits down beside her and kisses her, she telling him again that she wants to go home. Again, she tells the court she was afraid of Polanski.

Now. We’ll stop here. This is a rape case and the actual transcript heard in that Los Angeles court room thirty-two years ago gets extremely graphic. The transcript can be found here.

But suffice to say, this is one big never-mind to a disturbing number of people. Over 100 filmmakers have signed a petition in support of Polanski. Here’s some of things said in that petition.

The arrest of Polanski is “astonishing.” It is nothing other than a “case of morals” — a term the New York Times observed was “the Gallic equivalent of ‘yada yada.’” The arrest has caused these filmmakers to be “dismayed” because, hey, Polanski was picked up at the sacred temple that is an international film festival. (No word of protest from these folks when gay activists actively disrupt proceedings in a church, but that’s another story.) The filmmakers want you to know that they are upset that this arrest will be “heavy in consequences” for Mr. Polanski. Mr. Polanski, don’t you know, is an “international” artist and so therefore “(F)ilmmakers, actors, producers and technicians — everyone involved in international filmmaking…. demand the immediate release of Roman Polanski.”

Among the international list of signers of this jewel are some of the most famous filmmakers in America. Many on the list, be they Americans, Brits or Irish, have created films considered well in the mainstream. The list includes:

• Woody Allen, (who once was in the headlines himself for allegations from actress Mia Farrow, his significant other at the time, that he had molested their 7-year old daughter. Allen was exonerated.)

• Jonathan Demme, whose filmography includes Silence of the Lambs and lately a favorable documentary about Jimmy Carter.

• Martin Scorsese of Taxi Driver and The Aviator and others on a long and notable list.

• Sam Mendes of American Beauty. Mr. Mendes is married to the actress Kate Winslet of the much honored film Titanic, among many others.

• David Heyman, the producer of the Harry Potter films.

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About the Author

Jeffrey Lord is a former Reagan White House political director and author. He writes from Pennsylvania at jlpa1@aol.com.

Letter to the Editor View all comments (172) |

Dropping By| 10.6.09 @ 6:56AM

Love. Jeffrey. Lord. Love him. He is a national treasure.

But piece-of-human-trash Harvey Weinstein did NOT exec. produce the "Lord of the Rings" films. That honor (including an Academy Award) goes to Bob Shaye, formerly of New Line, who is a gentleman.

C4P| 10.6.09 @ 1:40PM

I'm glad someone cared enough to correct this misstatement.

LordHawke| 10.7.09 @ 12:48AM

Thank heavens, I won't have to burn my LOTR DVDs in protest.

Deborah D | 10.6.09 @ 8:01AM

Those who called the rape of a 13-year-old girl by this sleazeball Polanski "no big deal" because it was years ago -- should pick up a book on psychology. It is a big deal, and it affects the molested for years afterward in their associations with men. They are damaged. They can work their way out of that damage with help to function normally, but that attack will always remain with them. A victim of molestation must be on guard, ever vigilant as they size up any man who comes near them. Many times they revert to that first sexual encounter and cannot fully enjoy the sexual experience with a loved one. That is a big deal.

Alan Brooks| 10.6.09 @ 6:13PM

all sex is bad because it warps judgment, sex bifurcates men into:
(a) humans
and
(b) rutting monkeys

Of course sex is pleasurable, but so is heroin, coke, meth.

Alan Brooks| 10.6.09 @ 6:17PM

and PLEASE don't say sex is less destructive than drugs, that is a 'progressive' theory.

The Bible is correct in its spirit; sex is good only for reproduction-- minus the miscreants.

Deborah D | 10.7.09 @ 6:06AM

Were you referring to me when you said "Please don't say sex is less destructive than drugs..."

If you were, I'm not sure where you're coming up with the idea that I said anything close to that.

My premise is/was molested children (and adult women) are damaged forever by their experiences, which affect their personal lives in many ways. When I wrote "in their associations with men," I didn't mean sex. It affects more than their sexual encounters, it affects their everyday encounters with men.

brigid| 10.6.09 @ 8:06AM

If the children od these idiots are raped and sodomised will that be o.k? Will they sign a petition to let the rapist go free? I believe if it is good for the goose it is good for the gander.

Robert Rosencrans| 10.6.09 @ 8:22AM

Obama doesn't want to send troops to Afghanistan but he does want to have your children indoctrinated by an army of homosexuals. Isn't he wonderful!

KyMouse| 10.6.09 @ 8:40AM

Thank you, Mr. Lord. I'm going to email your excellent article to everyone on my email list.

Not long ago, it was common for people to dismiss the anguish of women who had been raped by saying that they should have relaxed and enjoyed it. Most of us know better now. Apparently, however, there are people who would give the same advice to children who are preyed upon by adults. Unbelievably disgusting and evil.

So Jennings didn't tell the authorities about the 15-year-old boy and the man in the restroom because he wasn't sure that statutory rape was going on? That's absurd, of course; but shouldn't it at least have crossed his mind that the man might not have the boy's best interests at heart in other ways -- that the man might have been a murderer, for example? Jennings couldn't have been that naive. My guess is that he was secretly applauding the bathroom-prowler for snaring a youngster in his trap.

Son Of Sam | 10.6.09 @ 8:49AM

A queer doesn't turn in a child molester and we act all surprised? Puh-leeeaze! This is the culture of hate and filth that the ObamaNazis of this country have been promoting for years, with or without our consent, and at taxpayer expense. How often do we need to be reminded that this evil regime of traitors and tax cheats hates, Hates, HATES America? That they hate us, hate our values, curse our faith, spit on our history, hate our freedom, and hate the fact that we won't grovel at their feet at their command?

We need to fling these despicable criminals and lunatics out of office, and then we need to investigate, indict, prosecute , convict and put in jail every last one of them. We will only be a free people again when we are free of them.

stand strong until freedom dawns
Son Of Sam
http://www.samadamssos.bravehost.com

Michael Grossberg| 10.6.09 @ 9:09AM

I believe you have an important fact wrong: I've read on other (non-conservative) websites that there is now evidence, from a driver's license, that the boy was 16 years old - not 15- which was/is the age of adult consent in that state. If true, doesn't that undermine your overall valid concerns? And if so, don't you need to provide a correction?

Tim| 10.6.09 @ 12:25PM

If the gloves don't fit you must acquit!

KyMouse| 10.6.09 @ 1:27PM

Mr. Grossberg, your comment gives me the creeps.

Even if the boy was 16, anyone who learned that he was being seduced by, or doing anything with, a stranger he met in a bathroom should still have had "concerns."

Any decent adult should have insisted that he tell his parents and the police (the man may be lurking in bathrooms for any number of reasons; e.g. he could be a mugger or a drug dealer, or mentally ill). He should have warned the boy that the man was using him for a shameful purpose that could taint the rest of his life. He should have warned him of the likelihood of contracting a disease such as AIDS or syphillis. He should have warned him that the man might do any number of violent things to him, including murder -- reminding him about Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacey would be a good idea.

I wonder, did the man insist that the boy keep their encounter private and not tell anyone--especially his parents? Would you consider someone who undermines the child-parent bond to be an honest, trustworthy person? Good Lord, I certainly wouldn't.

Mr. Grossberg, if you had a 16-year-old son, would his forming a relationship of ANY kind with a stranger he met in a bus station bathroom would be fine with you? How about a 16-year-old daughter?

seth Chodosh| 10.6.09 @ 5:31PM

KyMouse"

..hope you've lubbed that mouse up real good,before you insert it into your hole...

Jeremiah| 10.6.09 @ 5:53PM

seth is just your typical, filth spewing liberal syphilitic. Sadly, their numbers are legion.

KyMouse| 10.7.09 @ 8:04AM

Thanks, Seth, for proving my point. The syphillis one gets from strangers in bus station bathrooms eventually rots the brain. I hope you've found a good physician.

Kat| 10.6.09 @ 1:43PM

Grossberg, "After eight, it's too late," right?

Smitty| 10.6.09 @ 1:48PM

Grossberg is your typical liberal; moral relativist to the core. He scores a ten on the pervert skank-o-meter.

Paul| 10.8.09 @ 12:56PM

Mr Jennings himself is the source for Hannity saying the child was 15 years of age. Jennings is quoted as saying this child was 15 at the time of the incident.

Son Of Sam | 10.8.09 @ 2:13PM

My son is 16. If a grown man (or woman) tries to seduce my boy, they better hope they can get into witness protection before I find where they live.

btw, Mr. GROSSberg, are you by any chance hanging around high schools waiting for the boys to turn 16?

stand strong until freedom dawns
Son Of Sam
http://www.samadamssos.bravehost.com

Otis, my man!| 10.6.09 @ 9:09AM

Things just keep going from bad to worse. This shows that now Liberal Dems are have started to channel Caligula.

Timothy L. Pennell| 10.6.09 @ 9:10AM

Can this Administration get any WORSE? Do the American People 'get it' yet? Jesus said: "I will know you by the company you keep." These FREAKS and LOSERS, PEDOPHOLES and COMMUNISTS are OBAMAS' FRIENDS. These are people he's 'comfortable' with. Now you see why they fight so hard to get HOMOSEXUALS in to the BOY SCOUTS, as Scout Leaders. Why? Cause that's where the BOYS are, silly.
"Maybe I should have handled it better", this SCUM says. Yeah. He shoulda asked the kid if he could join them.
What is going on? Didn't this guy BREAK THE LAW? Wasn't he REQUIRED BY LAW to REPORT THIS? I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I will be ASTONISHED if this 'THING' in the White House, finishes his term. Astonished.

Kurt| 10.6.09 @ 9:12AM

Q. What is the difference between a 'Liberal' & a 'Conservative' once they reach what is the 'Relatively Moral' ground that is Washington D.C.? A. What was pushing the envelope in day's past is now the norm. Not funny nor was it meant to be. Many of the things that are happening on both sides would have, 30 years ago, been an outrage. Witness Watergate, most folks wouldn't bat an eye if this were the worse thing that happened in any given year-on EITHER side.

Pingback| 10.6.09 @ 9:47AM

Michelle Malkin » The (un)safe school czar’s inspiration links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…at and gives speeches at every known NAMBLA conference, and who speaks out publicly in NAMBLA’s defense, and who writes blurbs for NAMBLA books, would seem to be a likely candidate. Jeffrey Lord at the American Spectator widens the lens with “Pelosi to Polanski to Jennings: Why Sean Hannity Is Right:” One of the reasons the GOP lost control of the House in the 2006 elections was…

Jeffrey Lord| 10.6.09 @ 9:49AM

Michael Grossberg...

Remember that the source for this story is Kevin Jennings himself. He has, as noted, said he should have handled this differently. Something he presumably would not believe if the student were of legal age. I am aware of no statement by Jennings that the boy was of a legal age. If Jennings provides that fact and can document it we will be happy to correct.

Doug Hall| 10.6.09 @ 10:22AM

I have worked closely with the Office of Safe and Drug Free Schools for the past 20 years or so. I have never heard the assistant deputy secretary referred to as a "czar" in all of these years. Deb Price, who held the exact same position and the exact same title under George W. Bush, was never once referred to as a "czar." Opinion is one thing. Distortion of fact is quite the other thing.

Shamus| 10.6.09 @ 10:39AM

Czars were traditionally considered to be above the law, so this seems an apt title for Obama minions.

C4P| 10.6.09 @ 1:37PM

Love your priorities, Doug: Jennings is pushing a NAMBLA agenda to our school children and you whine about his title. Liberals never fail to disgust.

No wonder our public schools are such a mess.

S.L. Toddard| 10.6.09 @ 7:39PM

"I have worked closely with the Office of Safe and Drug Free Schools for the past 20 years or so"

Really.

"The Office of Safe and Drug-Free Schools (OSDFS) is a subdivision within the United States Department of Education that is responsible for assisting drug and violence prevention activities within the nation's schools.

The office was established Department of Education in 2002, pursuant to the Safe and Drug-Free Schools and Communities Act part of the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001"

http://www.ed.gov/news/pressre.....72002.html

This position Jennings was appointed to was one of countless useless, unconstitutional bureaucratic positions created by George W. Bush in his reckless expansion of the size, scope and power of the federal government. NCLB was a costly boondoggle that amounted to extortion - states had a choice to either surrender more of their sovereignty to the federal gov't or have their own tax dollars withheld from them and given to another state.

Conservatives should be fighting against the growth of the federal gov't - and should have been fighting it while Bush was expanding it recklessly, spending more than any Liberal and nearly doubling our national debt. Certainly Jennings was a poor choice to head any gov't department having anything to do with schools. But replacing Jennings won't do squat to roll back the federal leviathan and return to our states the powers delegated to them by the 10th Amendment. Attacking Jennings is party politics - it's a sideshow, a proxy-attack on Obama. The expansion of the federal government into our schools, our bank accounts, our phone lines and our emails is an exponentially more significant problem. Conservatives should not be fighting for a new Office of Safe and Drug-Free Schools "czar", we should be fighting to abolish the Office of Safe and Drug-Free Schools.

Smitty| 10.6.09 @ 8:15PM

Only a moron would think attacking a school 'czar' who is a NAMBLA sympathizer is a sideshow. The culture war is important, too.

Pingback| 10.6.09 @ 10:50AM

Twitter Trackbacks for The American Spectator : Pelosi to Polanski to Jennings: Why links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…amspec American Spectator 112 Show more Shortened Links Linking to the spectator.org page http://tinyurl.com/ycexezl http://bit.ly/v6BYB info   2 tweets Tweet The American Spectator : Pelosi to Polanski to Jennings: Why Sean Hannity Is Right spectator.org/archives/2009/10/06/pelosi-to-polanski-to-jennings – view page – cached Jennings is in the news because he is the Obama administration's…

FeFe| 10.6.09 @ 10:52AM

Furthermore, the student was despondent. How can Jennings persist in the notion his counsel and endorsement of casual sex is what boosted the teens self-esteem?
-- Casual sex is not the key to self-esteem no matter your sexual orientation:
http://wthrockmorton.com/2009/.....#more-5069

Jeffrey Lord| 10.6.09 @ 11:14AM

Doug Hall....

This term is well out there now in the media, raising flags with everyone from Senators (who have expressed constitutional concerns) to journalists etc. Technically you are right - but the problem here is that in vastly increasing the number of "czars" - who have been around since at least Eisenhower if not FDR - the term has taken on a life of its own. While I referred to Jennings in this fashion, I made a point of giving his correct title, as this piece is not about czars pro or con, but rather about another issue altogether with which Jennings is identified.

As someone who has been in government, I can only suggest that the Obama administration would be well-served by getting rid of the multiples of czars, making them the rarity they once were, and putting the people they want in the regular administration positions where they are confirmable by the Senate. Instead, they have fumbled the ball and given life to an issue that shouldn't be an issue - which is to say giving people too much unaccountable power. And when these people turn out to have considerable controversy attached - inevitably, trouble.

Kerry Marvin| 10.6.09 @ 11:30AM

Sir,
Your article was enlightening, however, We Need to Stand up to these people and Shout to our representatives.’
" YOU REPRESENT" US Or YOU WILL BE VOTED OUT!
And, to stand up for U.S. and OUR CHILDREN!

Not the Congress and this: Administrations, Radical Agenda for this nation, our children and our Rights
as Parents to "PROTECT" Them!

I Sent this to My, states Representative,
and to:
Secretary Duncan
Representative Roe
Senator Alexander
Senator Corker

Posted for:

Kevin Jennings is not qualified under any ethical standard to be entrusted with the safety of our nation's public school children.
Therefore I urge Secretary of Education Arne Duncan to immediately call for Jennings's resignation.
I also call on my members of Congress to urge the Secretary of Education to ask for Mr. Jennings' resignation.

Jennings is the founder of the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN), which pushes so-called
"anti-bullying" policies which even GLSEN admits are really about promoting "affirmation" of homosexual behavior in the school system.

Jennings is intolerant of the "religious right," 90% of whom enroll their children in public schools,
and said in a 2000 speech "I'm trying not to say '[F---] 'em'...I don't care what they think. Drop dead!"

He wants homosexual indoctrination of students at all levels, having written the forward to a book
entitled "Queering Elementary Education," and saying in 2004,
"Ex-gay messages have no place in our nation's public schools..
.There is no 'other side' when you're talking about lesbian, gay and bisexual students."

By his own admission he failed his legal duty to report what he believed to be a case of statutory rape
when a young student approached him for counsel after the boy had been preyed on by an older adult
in a local bus station bathroom. Jennings' main piece of advice: "I hope you know how to use a condom."

He writes in his 2006 memoir without any remorse of frequently getting "drunk and stoned" when he was a teenager.

It is time for the "Safe and Drug Free Schools" Czar to resign.

If He will "NOT" willingly, Then By The Strongest Language Possible;

"NOT WITH MY GRANDCHILDREN" "HE WON'T BE ALLOWED ANYWHERE NEAR THEM" "CODE ADAM" WAS PASSED FOR THIS REASON,
AND HIS: AGENDA, AND SUPPORT FOR "NAMBLA" IS "NOT"; IN THE INTEREST OF THIS NATION NOR OUR CHILDREN.

("IF")

YOU WILL NOT STAND UP FOR THEM SIR,

WE THE PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, BROTHERS AND SISTERS, SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF THIS NATION "WILL";
WITH "ALL" OF OUR, “Bill of Rights” :AMMENDMENTS AVAILABLE To U.S.
AND OUR VOTE, WHEN "YOU" COME UP FOR ELECTION, OR REAPPOINTMENT, ETC...

IT IS TIME TO CALL FOR THE RESIGNATION AND IMPEACHMENT OF THESE INDIVIDUALS IN OFFICE.

Whoever, Wherever, and Whenever they were Appointed.
No Matter Which Administration Supported them, Or Supports Them NOW!

We Are A Nation Of Law's, "NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!"

From:
The President, On Down, Congress, Senate, and "ALL" of the CZAR"S INCLUDED!

"IF" THEY HAVE ANY WRONGDOING, IE: "MALFEASANCE" IN OFFICE, THEY ARE ACCOUNTABLE!

TELL THE WANT TO CONTROL, GOV'T, "WE THE PEOPLE" HAVE CONTROL!

AND IMPEACH THOSE; WHO DO NOT FOLLOW THE LETTER AS WELL AS THE SPIRIT OF THE CONSTITUTION,
AND OATH THEY SWORE TO UPHOLD!

THEN IMPEACH THOSE THAT PLAY FAST AND SHADY WITH THE "LETTER" OF THE LAW,
AND ENFORCE THE LAWS WE DO HAVE FOR:
( ANTI-CORRUPTION, MALFEASANCE AND WRONGDOING ) OF OUR PUBLIC OFFICIALS!

THEN PROSECUTE THEM "ALL" IN "ALL" FIFTY STATE JURISDICTIONS!

AND LET THEM KNOW THAT "WE THE PEOPLE" ARE THE GOV'T THEY SHOULD FEAR! NOT THE LAWYERS FOR ACLU!

Having Stood Up For My Grandchildren and My Community I ask You All, To do the Same.

Take back our RIGHTS from these Scumbag Politicians and Proponent's for theses: Pedophiles.

wingnutbuster| 10.6.09 @ 5:37PM

Gramps,...you've left your hand on the CAP-
LOCK key again..ya ol fool.....

No Libs| 10.6.09 @ 5:57PM

Uh oh, looks like Queer Nation Buster has escaped from the loony bin again. Look out, folks!

Tim| 10.6.09 @ 11:50AM

These geniuses can't recognize the evil of rape, there is no way on Earth I'd value their opinions on anything else. So the next time they sign on a global warming petition or endorse a candidate there should be an asterisk*
* thinks child rape is not a criminal offense.

Campy| 10.6.09 @ 12:02PM

So let me get this straight...

We can criminalize 14- and 16-year-olds for having sex with each other and put them on sex offender registries for life, but it's a free pass if you're with an older man... as long as you wear a condom per Harry Hay et Jennings??

Tim| 10.6.09 @ 12:27PM

You can also smuggle kids from third world countries into the US as sex slaves and ACORN will not judge you.

Yosemeti Sam| 10.6.09 @ 12:26PM

Pelosi? - how's your privileged tuna business
sans minimum wage imposition coming along? But, I digress. Wouldn't want to eclipse a larger issue of conscience.

Want to have an impact against hollowwoods'
ever promotion of befriending wickedness?; what's a rape - here or there; makes for rapacious
plots; makes - money.

Solution: don't buy the movie tickets!

That will 'hurt' more than any howls of criticism to the garbage emanate from Sin City West; perhaps that will set the 'money bags producers' straight!

Might even make Islamo-fascists look more
favorably upon America. Ya never know; cleaning up our decadent ways; become less of a target?

Tim| 10.6.09 @ 12:38PM

They made an arrest in the case where that female sportscaster was secretly videotaped naked. Why isn't Hollywood defending that talented film maker?

Louis Jenkins| 10.6.09 @ 12:40PM

Not sure which one of these folks is Nancy P., but go ahead and search around for a photo of her. Next year's invite link is posted below, but be fore warned, this link is not for the weak of heart.

http://www.folsomstreetfair.com/alley/

If we are to believe state run media sources this is normal behavior? (No small wonder the Islamo-facists look at the US with scorn.) These are the very voters who breathe life in Nancy's political machine.

Daisy| 10.6.09 @ 1:27PM

My eyes, my eyes!! Thanks for the link, Louis; thanks a lot.

God help us.

Daisy| 10.6.09 @ 1:23PM

Pelosi often marched in San Francisco's notorious Gay Pride parade, closely followed by the NAMBLA contingent. This is no secret. Of course she's silent about Jennings.

Nice 'grandma' ain't she? I wish mine had been just like her.

Oldefarte| 10.6.09 @ 1:38PM

We are at a point in this nation's history when we have to decide whether or not Christianity, morality, decency,etc mean anything or not. We cannot support this moral corruption coming from the leftist sleezbags of Hollywood and the liberal left-wingers 'artists' who beleive that there are no mores, no ristrictions, no limits. Are we going to allow our children to be exposed to the filth of the Polanskis, the Van Joneses, the Jenninges, the Jacksons,etc of the entertainment and liberal world? Do we continue to wink-and-nod to their filthy lack of morals and anti-Christian ideas? We've now elected one of them to our highest political office and the liberalism floodgates are now wide open. Are we going to put a stop to it beginning next year by voting for true conservative candidates? Only you, the American people/voters/taxpayers can answer those questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Louis Jenkins| 10.6.09 @ 4:13PM

Dear Oldeflatus:

Not only do we need to vote these people out, but back into the closet, lock the door, and throw away the key. While a number of people and neighbors I know agree in general with this conversation, will they carry that agreement into next year's election or will they be lulled into a deep sleep by the belly dancing sleezbags? It is really hard to find a true conservative candidate. I named my poison last year. He and several others lost to the big show liberal machine for many reasons (all discussed on this website at one time or another). We can only hope that the filth you listed above will galvanize the voters into making good choices in the campaign season and the primaries-our very nation is now dependent on it.

Doug Hall| 10.6.09 @ 2:01PM

I previously posted this, but your moderator may have missed it. I'd like to point out that Fox News corrected its story about Kevin Jennings and "Brewster." Fox report LAST FRIDAY, three days before your post, that "Brewster" was in fact 16 at the time of the incident (the legal age of consent in Massachusetts). "Brewster" has publicly stated that no sex took place between himself and the older man, which, if it had occurred, would have been legal. In other words, the "story" that Jennings did not report a sexual offense is a non-story. Here is the link to the Fox News retraction: http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....-sex-case/

Next time, Mr. Lloyd, please do your homework before you write slanderous comments about someone.

C4P| 10.6.09 @ 2:08PM

You can't even get the author's name right. Pathetic.

Jeffrey Lord| 10.6.09 @ 3:52PM

Doug Hall...

We are not about writing deliberate untruths here. Perhaps you have a projection issue.

The Fox story you have referred us to says this:

"The latest statements by "Brewster" are not entirely consistent with Jennings' various accounts of the 1988 incident, including at least one reference in Jennings' writings and speeches to a "15-year-old" to whom he said “I hope you knew to use a condom.”

Jennings has also apologized for this. "Brewster" has stepped forward and said he was 16. I have no problem saying so. But why and for what is Jennings apologizing?

Willem van Oranje| 10.6.09 @ 9:26PM

In his speeches, he has also called the boy Robertson on a few occasions, or a sophomore; the same story has been told with age as 16. You, as a "journalist", have no idea why somebody would change certain identifiers? Like age, name, maybe even sometimes gender? You REALLY have no idea why that might be? Why Jennings would want to protect the identity of the man we now know is "Brewster"?
Stunning.

And BTW, you apparently have never really listened to Jennings speeches or really read his book. Have you? Because Jennings has always used this story in the context of WHY he had not correctly handled this incident. Do your own research, it really isn't that hard.

This entire report tells us more about you, than it does about Jennings.

Willem van Oranje| 10.6.09 @ 9:33PM

And you automatically assume that when a 15-yo gay boy meets an older gay man statutory rape occurs?

ZerObama| 10.7.09 @ 12:24AM

Only a pedophile wouldn't assume as much, Willem. You a pedophile?

Common Sense| 10.7.09 @ 8:21AM

Willem, for what purposes other than sex would an older homosexual man try to start a friendship with a teen-age boy in a bus station bathroom?

JP| 10.6.09 @ 2:16PM

Doug,
I think you miss the entire point. In Jennings mind. Brewster was 15 and a sophomore. He freely admitted to breaking the law (ie not reporting to the police or the subject's parents that a potential crime was committed). This in many ways mirrors ACORN. While Jennings may be off the hook concerning criminal law, he certainly isn't off the hook morally. The more voters see of Jennings the louder will be the calls for his removal.

Patty| 10.6.09 @ 2:29PM

JP, with all due respect, I think you miss the point: Doug's 'concern' has nothing to do with the truth, it's all about a pro NAMBLA agenda.

Lullaby's, Legends and Lies| 10.6.09 @ 3:10PM

Doug “The Fag defender”: How’s that for slanderous comments?

Don’t you get it Doug? You’re splitting hairs here, with your argument about this kid being 15 or 16 years old at the time (like that makes a difference with this creepy story)? If it was illegal (15), or if it fell within the age of consent (16), makes this a non-story? Are you kidding me Doug? We don’t want to go there with you Doug; this is not what we signed up for. Maybe you’ve signed up for this type of future for this country, maybe this is the type of America of your (wet) dreams, but I haven’t signed up for this Doug, and I want the old America back. Where wrong was wrong!! And people like this, didn’t get jobs working with the White House. People like this, got fired, or thrown in jail, and never worked around Children again. You’re part of the problem Doug; you’re part of the creepiness that’s overtaking us all, if you see nothing wrong with this guy, or this story.

Hey Doug? Did you sign that petition yet, for Roman Polanski? Woody Allen did, but you probably don’t see anything wrong with either one of them too.

The cancer that is eating us up from within, has spread to other vital organs, and I don’t think we have long to live anymore.

Daisy| 10.6.09 @ 3:48PM

I agree and it's breaking my heart.

Lullaby's, Legends and Lies| 10.6.09 @ 4:44PM

Actually, I’m even more pessimistic than that cancer analogy makes me sound. I’m actually really starting to buy into that Mayan calendar theory now, where the World is going to come to an end in 2012. Every day, it just seems to get a little worse, in America and around the Globe too. And this Kevin Jennings story is just another straw, in a long line of straws, being added to an already aching back. Screw it, the end is near!!

It seems the more I hear about everyday, the less I really want to know about, but I just can’t keep myself from watching this train wreck in progress. And from where I see the World from at the moment, I just don’t give us much of a chance to survive anymore. If it’s not one thing that’s going to get us, it’s going to be another. It’s the old catch 22, if you will. Maybe it’s going to be the economy, or the Civil War that follows, or a nuclear attack from one of our Islamic friends, or that giant asteroid from outer space that NASA isn’t telling us about that brings on the end, I don’t know. But more likely, the end will begin, once Israel attacks Iran, and World War III breaks out for real, followed by the nuclear attacks, and then that giant asteroid from outer space that causes the greatest Tsunami ever recorded ( just for *hits and giggles). So I don’t know how the end is going to play out, but the Mayan’s are looking smarter to me everyday.

So maybe in the end, after 2012, we won’t care about the petty violence in our public schools today, or who the President appointed to the schools today to combat it. Or if the guy he did appoint, thought it was cool to have 15 or 16 year olds, having sex with grown adults. Maybe it won’t matter to us anymore. Maybe we’ll just be worried about simply living after 2012. We’ll get back to the basics, like finding food and water, or not living at all.

I mean come on!! Who needs morality, when the end of the World is so close? Screw it!!

Daisy| 10.6.09 @ 4:59PM

C'mon, now, Lullaby's; you didn't really think you were going to get out of this life alive, right? ( A little humor).

Just read your Bible, it doesn't mince words.

I'm almost to the point now that I look at the stinking cesspool around me and yell, Bring it!

Even so far away, you are not alone. :)

GreyLion| 10.6.09 @ 10:10PM

Daisy,
Be sure to read the last chapter of the Book.
You will know Who wins and what happens to the folks at nambla and a few others. Encouraging stuff.

Daisy| 10.7.09 @ 12:19AM

I know how it turns out, Grey; I couldn't go on if I didn't. God bless you.

Daisy| 10.7.09 @ 12:22AM

God bless you, too, LLL. May God hold you close and comfort you.

Lullaby's, Legends and Lies| 10.7.09 @ 1:44AM

Thanks Daisy, you cheered me up for a little bit, or at least until the next swing of the sledge hammer of life.

It should be any minute now.

KyMouse| 10.7.09 @ 8:26AM

As Appleby has commented before, "Lamps filled and wicks trimmed, people." Amen to that!

Flee| 10.6.09 @ 3:09PM

The name on the petition that amazes me most is Scorsese. I thought he was a Catholic? Can he really support an admitted rapist? Gangster movies are one thing but this is beyond the pale.

C4P| 10.6.09 @ 3:45PM

Flee, give me a break: NAMBLA Pelosi is a "Catholic," so was Teddy the Swimmer. The Catholic church is just a social club to liberals, nothing more.

Flipside| 10.6.09 @ 3:39PM

I thought the Liberals were
"for the children" ?

Alex M. Thompson| 10.6.09 @ 4:15PM

Most of you people disgust me. The young man was 16 at the time, Mr. Jennings had every right to help him out, he did so responsibly and should be respected for it. There is absolutely NO tie to NAMBLA, etc. There are plenty of valid reasons to criticize the Obama administration, but this is NOT one of them. Grow up, learn some facts, and stop being ignorant and petty children.

Nobama| 10.6.09 @ 4:31PM

Alex, I'm sure you signed the petition defending the degenerate Polanski, too; probably twice. Pervert.

Jeffrey Lord| 10.6.09 @ 4:27PM

Alex M. Thompson...

Mr. Jennings himself indicated the boy was fifteen. He is the source of the story. And he is on record expressing his admiration for Harry Hay.

Alex M. Thompson| 10.6.09 @ 4:58PM

I'd love to see the statement where Mr. Jennings "indicates" that the boy - who has repeatedly said that he was 16 - was not of legal age. As far Harry Hay is concerned, he had a huge role in the gay pride movement. Admiration for him is one thing. But saying that what that amounts to is admiration for NAMBLA is another thing entirely. Surprisingly, you didn't mention that Harry Hay was a member of the American Communist Party. Perhaps Jennings is a red as well?

Willem van Oranje| 10.6.09 @ 10:15PM

If this is what counts as conservatism thought nowadays. Than I can declare conservatism dead.

It is perfectly legitimate to praise what a person has done in one particular field: Harry Hay as co-founder of the Mattachine Society in 1950, the first LGBT rights organization in the United States and later in a local Gay Liberation Front chapter. His work in the early stages of LGBT-right movements was courageous. What is there not to praise?

Oh. I get it. He later advocated that NAMBLA should be allowed a seat at the table of LGBT-movement too (which they didn't and don't).

I get it. When can we see your call to scrub all the history books of the praise George Washington is getting? Surely you're not in favor of slavery, are you! Are you absolutely sure we will not find you praising GW? Or any of the Founding Fathers? Surely you couldn't have done that! That would make you just a filthy RACIST! And a Mysogynist TOO!

Nick| 10.6.09 @ 11:29PM

"Oh. I get it. He later advocated that NAMBLA should be allowed a seat at the table of LGBT-movement too (which they didn't and don't)."

Oh, yes, he is a great guy. That is, aside from advocating the rape of little boys.

And Hitler was a great leader of Germany. Except for that pesky World War thing and the murder of 12 million civilians. Other than that, he was quite the leader.

Manny| 10.7.09 @ 12:16AM

You know someone's a complete degenerate when they compare a NAMBLA proponent to George Washington. That'll win you friends. No wonder liberalism is dying.

Willem van Oranje| 10.7.09 @ 12:29AM

Get your facts straight. NAMBLA challenges age of consent, it does not advocate rape.

But as I said. If this is the level of discourse in conservative circles like the American Spectator. Conservatism is dead.

Oh, and if you want to continue to go on that path of guilt-by-association: remember, this is the American Spectator who featured authors like ...

Pat Buchanan.

Buchanan wrote:
Hitler "was also an individual of great courage, a soldier's soldier in the Great War, a political organizer of the first rank, a leader steeped in the history of Europe, who possessed oratorical powers that could awe even those who despised him...Hitler's success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path."

Nick| 10.7.09 @ 1:08AM

Children can't consent, therefore it is rape, brainiac.

At what age would you like to molest children, Mr. van Oranje? It is a well known fact that most homos want to get their hands on little boys.

Manny| 10.7.09 @ 1:31AM

Buchanan is irrelevant until he starts to advocate rape of little boys.

You're a real nasty piece of work, Willem; the kind of guy I want to stay far, far away from my young sons. Loathsome pervert, you make my skin crawl.

I wonder how many little boys you've ruined, sicko.

Unforgiven| 10.7.09 @ 1:55AM

Bet you good old Willem is a big aficionado of special vacations in Thailand where innocent little boys don't have our country's protections from sexual deviants.

I'm sure the pink, porcine Willem believes that's 'consensual', too. You reek, Willem.

KyMouse| 10.7.09 @ 8:46AM

NAMBLA "challenges age of consent," as you note, Willem. And why is that? So that men can seduce younger and younger boys. And the younger the child, the more likely he (or she) is to obey the instructions of an adult--and, hey, if the child goes along with what the adult wants, the child is consenting, and then it isn't rape, is it?

How disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself, Willem, for standing up for NAMBLA to any degree.

Not long ago, I was waiting for a take-out order at a restaurant, along with some other people. One of them was a boy about 12 years old. A man in his late 20s, I would estimate, started chatting with him.

Over the course of about 10 minutes, the man asked the boy a long series of personal questions--Do you live near here? Do you live with your parents? What do you like to do after school? The boy answered his questions, but seemed increasingly uncomfortable. The man, seeing his discomfort, would laugh and back off, only to start up again a few moments later.

I finally said, "This man is asking you a lot of very personal questions, but you don't have to answer any of them." The man glared at me, and then went to the counter to pick up his food, which had just been bagged.

He left the restaurant, and the boy looked relieved. The boys' order arrived at the counter, and he left. Then mine came, and I left. When I went out into the parking lot, I saw that the man had waited for the boy to come out. The two were talking.

I walked by them very slowly, glaring at the man. The boy, looking confused and uncomfortable, finally started walking away with his food. I kept him in sight as long as I could, to make sure the man wasn't following him. Then I went back inside and talked to the manager, to warn him about the man.

I'll never forget the look on the boy's face: He looked not only uncomfortable, but also as if he had stepped in something really nasty. I just hope he got home all right.

C4P| 10.7.09 @ 10:49AM

I hope the little boy is okay. You did what you could and I would have done the same. God bless you, KyMouse.

Your story sickens me, like many of those defending NAMBLA on this thread.

Patty| 10.6.09 @ 5:27PM

Sorry, Jeffrey, but "They're here and they're queer!!" No one can out-argue gay folks about the joys and virtues of queerdom. Their sexuality defines them; it is their essence.

Jeffrey Lord| 10.6.09 @ 5:37PM

Alex M. Thompson...

I heard a tape of Mr. Jennings in his own words saying this. I will blog on this to give it more attention.

Alex, we are about conservatism here. We are not about telling untruths. This statement from Jennings is in the public domain.

As to Harry Hay, the fact that he was serious public advocate for man/boy love is a big deal. The fact that Mr. Jennings seems not to understand that is troubling indeed. As to Hay and Communists? The Soviet Union is dead. President Reagan would have appreciated your thanks. And while we are on the subject of gays, they weren't doing too well under Saddam Hussein, were they? Perhaps the gay community should thank George Bush for putting a stop to that...

Alex M. Thompson| 10.6.09 @ 5:47PM

Mr. Lord,

I will follow your blog and hopefully you'll provide some kind of evidence for your assertion. When you do, I will stand corrected.

COnservative Bob| 10.6.09 @ 5:38PM

I read the grand jury transcript of the assaulted 13 year old and Polanski’s guilty plea statement.
If the girl in question were my daughter Polanski would pray to be incarcerated. Were he ever within my reach I would personally see that he never molested another child.
Mr. Jennings should have reported the incident, and then the court could have determined if any criminal laws had been broken. He failed to protect those under his care and is there for unfit for the post he holds by his own admission.
Doug I can assure if the young man involved were my son the consequences for the bathroom molester were he ever to be found and identified would have been little different whether the victim was 15 or 16.
Call me a Neanderthal, or a back woods redneck if you wish but anyone that takes the innocence of a child close to me does so at their mortal peril.
Child molestation and child rape are among the most vile crimes one can commit and the punishment should be as vicious as the crime.

Patty| 10.6.09 @ 6:06PM

We're getting pretty close to the edge, CO Bob.

Deborah D | 10.6.09 @ 6:47PM

Hear! Hear!

Bohred| 10.6.09 @ 6:55PM

I totally understand Bob. I have four children, and if anything like this happened to them I would be in jail.
What I find amusing is the total lack of understanding by those that defend this abomination. They have no idea how disgusted and angry the majority, big majority, is becoming.
I can't wait to see the political ads for 2010.

Conservative Bob| 10.6.09 @ 5:39PM

Count me among the unenlightened in the regard.

wingnutbuster| 10.6.09 @ 5:46PM

I only wish I had a compassionate teacher , like Mr. Jennings,when I was in High School...it would have made things much more bearable...

Lee| 10.6.09 @ 6:04PM

I'm sorry if you had a tough time in high school, buster--but I'm not sure that counseling you at 15 years of age to have sex with adult men would constitute true compassion.

wingnutbuster| 10.6.09 @ 6:31PM

Lee:

I surely didn't need a teacher to counsel me..I was having very enjoyable sex,,,with "older men" throughout HS...it just would have been nice to know that a teacher was concerned that I was beeing safe about it ,as Mr Jennings was..

Lee| 10.6.09 @ 7:04PM

You WEREN'T safe, hon; neither was the teenager at Jennings' school.

Bohred| 10.6.09 @ 6:56PM

Cold blooded jail, jury trail, then out.

brooklynpunk| 10.6.09 @ 8:24PM

Mr.Lord:

you said...:

"As to Harry Hay, the fact that he was serious public advocate for man/boy love is a big deal. The fact that Mr. Jennings seems not to understand that is troubling indeed. As to Hay and Communists? The Soviet Union is dead. President Reagan would have appreciated your thanks. And while we are on the subject of gays, they weren't doing too well under Saddam Hussein, were they? Perhaps the gay community should thank George Bush for putting a stop to that..."
------------------
I don't know where to even start , with these distortions of ...THE FACTS...
..but..I can tell you..FOR A FACT..as someone with a very personal connection with Iraq, that during the secular reign of Saddam ..Gays had a rather flourishing community, in Baghdad, at least..which is totally gone...and many gay people fled the Country ,AFTER the regime was toppled..in fear for their lives.....

Your vile sliming of Harry Hays...and Kevin Jennings..are beneath contempt....

At long last...HAVE YOU NO SHAME,,,??

Nobama| 10.6.09 @ 9:02PM

There's ample evidence that Hays was a big proponent of NAMBLA (You know, "After 8, it's too late"), and WE are beneath contempt? Who is really vile, punk? You need an exorcism.

brooklynpunk| 10.6.09 @ 9:13PM

Nobama:

Ample evidence..?

Bring it on...if you ...can...

And praising one part of a man's lifetime doesn't necessarily equal a total endorsement of everything that person ever said or did,,

If an exorcism means having to live life as a scared "know-nothing" wingnut zombie..I think I'll pass....

Nick| 10.6.09 @ 11:10PM

"[...] the secular reign of Saddam ..Gays had a rather flourishing community, in Baghdad [...]"

Just more proof of Saddam's depravity. And that he was not a devout Moslem.

Beth| 10.7.09 @ 12:12AM

Good one, Nick. Saddam and his sons were perverts for sure.

Jeffrey Lord| 10.6.09 @ 10:23PM

brooklynpunk

"If an exorcism means having to live life as a scared "know-nothing" wingnut zombie..I think I'll pass.... "

Wait! Stop! You mean you don't already???!!
:)

Landon| 10.6.09 @ 10:28PM

More anti-gay hatred. The only reason people are attacking Kevin Jennings is because he's gay. Heterosexuals ALWAYS fallback on sex to undermine gay people thinking it's an acceptable cover for their true motives which are anti-gay hatred because heterosexuals believe sex plus gay people equals something bad. Kevin is a honorable man and deserves to stay put.

ZerObama| 10.6.09 @ 10:44PM

Homophobe, racist, sexist. Homophobe, racist, sexist. Homophobe, racist, sexist. The brainless rants of amoral liberals. What else is new?

Landon| 10.6.09 @ 11:10PM

Deflect, that's what the right know how to do.

ZerObama| 10.7.09 @ 12:09AM

Project, that's what the left know how to do.

quoth the raven| 10.6.09 @ 11:45PM

perhaps when Right wing clods stop acting in a racist...sexist...and..homophobic fashion..the rest of us will stop calling you as we see ya.....

ZerObama| 10.7.09 @ 12:08AM

Liberalism is a dead ideology, all you engage in is identity politics for victims. You are perverts, freaks and fools; you've got nothing, that's why you label.

Brooklynpunk| 10.6.09 @ 10:34PM

Mr. Lord:

A rather lame attempt at humor doesn't hide the fact that you didn't address ONE of my rebuttals of your rather dubious statements...but then again, I'm not surprised in the slightest...all the Right seems to know how to do, in this Country, is to call people names//scream..// "try" to make fun of them//..and dig up "facts" that have no bearing in truth...

ZerObama| 10.6.09 @ 10:47PM

Jennings is a proponent of Hays, Hays was a proponent of NAMBLA-- Get Jennings out now; he's a threat to our children.

Michael Grossberg| 10.6.09 @ 10:52PM

Actually, KyMouse, I share your concerns in your comments about how a parent would feel and what a teacher should have advised the young man. All I was saying about the fact that apparently the boy was 116 at the time, the age of consent, is that it's important even in opinion columns and interpretive analysis, to get ALL your facts correct. - Or correct them later when reasonably brought to one's attention.
I think, as I initially wrote, that many of the concernes expressed in the column were valid. But basing concerns consistently on all the facts can only strengthen a legitimate argument.
And by the way, I think Polanski should be prosecuted and extradited, and am glad that the other Obama officials under recent criticism (the "Green" guy and the NEA spokesman) are now gone. But you've got to have a strong case, consistent with all the facts, to keep making the cases that get such results. Especially when it's an uphill battle, given the cultural establishment and media bias.

brooklynpunk| 10.6.09 @ 11:00PM

Zero:

Nothing you claim has any documented source in evidence..other then that Jennings spoke out in positive memory of the good works Hays accomplished , at his death.

Hays (nor Jennings) WAS NOT a "member of Nambla"...and I DARE you to present evidence to the contrary...

ZerObama| 10.6.09 @ 11:15PM

Are you stupid or just high on crack? YOU said member, I said proponent; comprehension problems ?

Nice try, toad.

brooklynpun| 10.6.09 @ 11:20PM

Zero:

Very fitting moniker...does it reflect your I.Q.?..

just a little back at your fukking nasty , unwarrented smarminess....no wonder your children feel threatened..I would , too if you were my parent.....

ZerObama| 10.6.09 @ 11:46PM

Figured you're filthy; your foul language doesn't surprise me. Oh, FYI, that's 'unwarranted'--love your public school education.

The only time my children feel threatened is when perverts like you and Jennings are around, NAMBLA punk.

The Red| 10.6.09 @ 11:22PM

Question: "What would have happened if the Grand Marshal were, say, a Nazi? A member of the Ku Klux Klan? Would Nancy Pelosi have so nonchalantly sallied forth, waving and smiling for all of San Francisco?"
Answer: "Yes." A Nazi or Clansman would not be the Grand Marshall in Frisco without popular demand. Pelosi is an obcessive/compulsive controller, thus migrating to any person or movement that promises satisfaction.

Aside from her control issues, the woman is obviously a racist and a National Socialist (Nazi).

quoth the raven| 10.6.09 @ 11:36PM

Aside from her control issues, the woman is obviously a racist and a National Socialist (Nazi).

I was waiting for some pea-brain , to trot out the Nazi slur...congratulations, RED, on being the schmuck of the day.......

Beth| 10.7.09 @ 12:01AM

Nah, the schmucks on this thread are you liberals, raven, for bleating about homophobia. In fact, you liberals won the 'schmucks forever' award long ago.

Jeffrey Lord| 10.6.09 @ 11:56PM

brooklyn punk...

Let's cut to the chase, shall we? We believe here in human rights. For everybody. If Iraq were such a hot bed of humanity there would have been no gassing of Kurds, no murder of dissenters, no attacks on Kuwaitis, Saudis, Israelis etc etc etc. You appear to be defending Saddam on the grounds that things were great for gays? Good luck. Even if true, what about everybody else? Saddam as Mr. Human Rights? What are you sipping out there????

Seriously, what is with this hatred routine? Name calling? Engage with an idea. Or ideas plural. The hard fact is that Jennings said the boy was 15. From which all these stories flow. He is on tape saying it. I have heard the tape. If he feels he made a mistake in saying so - he has but to say so. No word yet.

We have honest philosophical differences. Coming here and just slamming around indignation and no answers won't cut it. You seem like a bright guy. So? Engage. Think. Don't be part of the Lazy Left.

Landon| 10.7.09 @ 12:54AM

If this 16 year old male met an older woman and then asked for advice no one would call for Kevin Jennings to resign. In fact people would praise him because he told the male to wear condoms. We all know the people attacking the sterling reputation of Kevin Jennings are anti-gay.

Nick| 10.7.09 @ 1:18AM

"If this 16 year old male met an older woman and then asked for advice no one would call for Kevin Jennings to resign."

Wrong!
All of us MORAL people would.
Pervert.

ZerObama| 10.7.09 @ 1:42AM

"Homophobe, racist, sexist. Homophobe, racist, sexist. Homophobe, racist, sexist." The dying bleats of a dying ideology.

You can't defend your ugly perversions, so you engage in ad hominem attacks. Won't work any more, losers; we're tired of your morally bankrupt behavior and phony arguments.

Josh Rosenblatt | 10.7.09 @ 1:02AM

The problem is that the same moral daring we expect from our great artists can easily topple into immorality in the real world.

Read my take here: http://www.unfittimes.com/2009.....ws-of-men/

Richard Baker| 10.7.09 @ 8:28AM

wingnutbuster:
So faculty approved packing sh*t is ok?

mejamom| 10.7.09 @ 10:30AM

I admit to being ignorant of many things "gay." However, I know some gay people and they are all educated, responsible professionals. They don't push "gay" in anyone's face. Not one of them is a pedofile. I'm assuming all of you understand that gay doesn't equal pedophilia.
NAMBLA doesn't fit with responsiblity. I don't believe all gay people support it.
As far as Jennings goes, I agree he should have reported it and let the courts do their job of sorting out the legalities. He made a mistake and apologized, great. Is he, because of his orientation and position going to turn our kids into homosexuals? Of course not. Does he deserve a second chance? Maybe, but not in a position that could be held by many other qualified men or women without the stain of controversy.
For people who complain about the main stream media, it seems like many of them are giving it much attention when it comes to Polanski. He broke the law, but how does he fit in with whether Jennings should be working or not? Another sign that the morals of America are slipping I guess. But that happens. It always has, it always will. If you want your children to be morally decent, teach them.

Daisy| 10.7.09 @ 10:55AM

Yes, teach your children--and protect them from pedophiles. And pray.

The road ahead looks dark and treacherous and so very (Old Testament) Biblical.

KyMouse| 10.7.09 @ 11:36AM

"If you want your children to be morally decent, teach them." Good advice, but youngsters are curious, eager to explore the world, and eager to push the limits of their independence. And by nature, they want to please adults.

A number of news programs have shown that young children who have been taught not to talk to strangers almost always forget their training when a smooth-talking grownup asks them to help look for a "lost puppy" or tries another trick to lure them away. Being innocent, curious and eager to please adds up to a death sentence for too many children.

If the majority of homosexuals do not support NAMBLA, I sure wish they would speak up about it.

Quoth the Raven| 10.7.09 @ 12:41PM

"If the majority of homosexuals do not support NAMBLA, I sure wish they would speak up about it."

Ky:

..And ..the DAY people of your ilk renounce The KKK...bombing and murdering personnel at Arbortion clinics...questining the citizenship of thePresident of the United States...ad nauseum...MAYBE, We will.. question NAMBLA, as well

BTW...in case you aren't awre..NAMBLA is considered an extremey "pariah" organization by ALL main-stream GLBT organizations and our leadership

KyMouse| 10.7.09 @ 1:07PM

I would be very interested to read any op ed newspaper column or mainstream magazine article denouncing NAMBLA that was written by a homosexual or lesbian. If you know of some, please share the info.

What makes you think I support the KKK? I know no one who does. What "people of your ilk" do you mean--people who are against seducing children? If so, then I am certainly one of them, and proud to be.

Why assume that I'm a "birther"? There is much more to question about Obama than his birth!

And please tell me which pro-life organizations applaud the murder of abortionists. I'm against any killing outside of abortion mills, but also against the killing that goes on inside them. How about you?

quoth the Raven| 10.7.09 @ 1:20PM

Glad to hear it..

Well ..I'm Gay...and am not a member..or a supporter of ..NAMBLA...satisfied....?

We are not obligated to denounce everything we do not support...nu?

KyMouse| 10.7.09 @ 7:47PM

Decent people do have the obligation to speak out against evil. And putting obligation aside, why wouldn't you *want* to denounce NAMBLA?

When you find some op ed pieces or magazine articles by homosexuals or lesbians denouncing NAMBLA, please let TAS readers know.

I didn't catch your answer about the killing that goes on inside abortion mills.

Patty| 10.7.09 @ 1:37PM

Just remember, Raven: You democrats created the KKK and were responsible for lynching poor black folks for decades. Senator Robert Byrd was a KKK leader; a Kleagle or recruiter.

I can understand why you want to forget your despicable democrat past but we don't and we won't let you.

quoth the Raven| 10.7.09 @ 1:59PM

Patty:

WHO said I'm a member of The Democrat-IC Party..?( and...please don't revert to that childish right-wing ploy of leaving off the grammatically correct way of refering to the Party...it's just ..ignorant..)

Party policies and philosophies change..I reckon there are some members of The Grand Old Psrty today. who would have shot 'ol Honest Abe, themselves, even though he was the Party's standard -bearer...

Patty| 10.7.09 @ 2:47PM

Who said I was a member of the GOP? Of course you're a democratic; don't be coy, it's unattractive.

All i know is democratic, Robert Byrd, was a big-time KKK member and he's no repub. Sorry.

Quoth the Raven| 10.7.09 @ 3:13PM

Actually. I'm a registered Socialist...(no...NOT of the Nationalist sort, before those arrows start flying...)

So..Nixon was forced to resign, on account of lying to the Nation...and any number of Republican legislators have been caught in sleazy sexual scandals...does that make the Republican Party the party of liars , pedophiles, and adulterers...?

Before the Republicans start pretending to be"holier then thou", vis-a-vis some less than stellar Democratic members, they need tolook ito their own dubious history, and members...

Patty| 10.7.09 @ 3:40PM

Ha ha ha!!! I knew you were a commie; figured as much. Raven, just because conservatives aren't perfect doesn't mean we won't object to democrat child sexual slavery, drugging, raping and sodomizing 13 year old girls and buggering little boys.

You can whine and cry all you want but we will stop you liberal perverts from doing any more harm to our children--count on it. Your phony bleating and braying don't work anymore--you deviants won't get a pass from now on.

So put your pencil back in your pocket and behave yourself, silly libtard. We are so over your perversions.

Quoth the Raven| 10.7.09 @ 3:56PM

Patty:

Why the hostility...and why the stupidity, against a different point of view...?

BTW...Socialism is not quite the same thing as being "a commie"..whatever tht actually means..

Your ranting and raving about children being "buggered" indicates a rather unhealthy fascination with your rather extreme fantasies concerning what responsible Gay people engage in, however..

So much for a dialogue..as soon as you folk start with the name-calling..the gloves come off, in my corner, as well..

Patty| 10.7.09 @ 4:08PM

Got your panties in a pinch?

Ohhh, I'm so very afraid, big bad socialist-commie. In case you missed it--that was ridicule not anger--I'm laughing AT you.

What ya gonna do when you come for me?

I'm sure when it comes to sick, twisted fantasies--you have it all over me, babe. Snark.

Quoth the Raven| 10.7.09 @ 4:16PM

Yup I missed it(your feeble attempt at ridicule, that is)...BABE..

Better my "panties in a pinch"..then yours..which are obviously, in ..your mouth, with your snarky, smarmy, infantile. mindset...babe...

Patty| 10.7.09 @ 7:04PM

At least I wear underpants, Mr. Commando. Ha ha.

Love ya.

KyMouse| 10.8.09 @ 3:37PM

Patty, my comment below is for Raven, not you. He's avoiding my earlier question.

Really Now| 10.7.09 @ 5:35PM

Can't you posters see who the troll is? It is the same one who appears and argues in the same manner, always and takes many a screen ID. Liberal Reader/ Toddard. Wakey Wakey, eggs n' bakey.

Nick| 10.7.09 @ 7:37PM

Quoth the Bird-brain,

"Socialism is not quite the same thing as being 'a commie'..whatever tht actually means.."

Yes, in the same way that syphillis is not the quite the same thing as gonorrhoea. With which both I'm sure you're intimately familiar.

As I stated above, it is a well known fact that most homos want to get their hands on little boys. At what age would you like to molest them?

This is also why the democrat party is aligned with you guys. Perverts protect each other.

Daisy| 10.7.09 @ 8:11PM

Always enjoy your posts, Nick; you're a keeper! :)

Nick| 10.7.09 @ 8:55PM

Thanks Daisy.

Enjoy your's as well!

Pingback| 10.8.09 @ 5:21PM

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detached| 10.8.09 @ 9:16PM

Too much ignorance to try to correct it all.

I am lifelong gay, was quite crazy when younger, am now over 60 and comfortably post-sexual.

Hey, people, there is a whole lot of sex going on in public bathrooms. No one gets arrested for one encounter and Larry Craig, like many other cruisers, undoubtedly had hundreds. It's called sex addiction and it's widespread and very busy.

Among the visitors, in some locations, are many young boys, well on their way to lives of sex addiction. They attract older sex addicts. Sometimes there are temporary liaisons. It even happens that sex addicts hook up and share accommodations.

My guess is that Jennings knew all this and was trying to do the best he could for the kid, namely, reducing the chance of catching HIV, etc.

Pingback| 10.9.09 @ 3:23PM

More Leftist hypocrisy… « Jacksonian Lawyer's Blog links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…to their defense of pro-pedophile, homosexual “Safe School Czar” Kevin Jennings.  Read Mr. Lord’s article – here.  Additional articles on this subject by Mr. Lord can be found here and here. Also, be sure to visit http://www.expeljennings.org Published in: Local Politics News Politics US Politics on October 9, 2009 at 15:20 Leave a Comment Tags: Jeffrey Lord, Kevin Jennings…

Uncle Albert| 10.12.09 @ 3:51PM

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