Democrats from conservative districts face a series of uncomfortable votes.
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On the same day that the Democratic-run Congressional Budget Office poured cold water on the idea that the House Democrats’ bill would yield federal health care savings, Rep. Jared Polis (D-CO) and 21 other junior Democrats sent House Speaker Nancy Pelosi a letter opposing a surtax on upper-income earners to pay for a new health care plan. “Especially in a recession,” they wrote, “we need to make sure not to kill the goose that will lay the golden eggs of our recovery.”
This followed a separate letter to Pelosi from 40 members of the Blue Dog Coalition vowing to oppose any health care bill that increases the deficit, doesn’t address their delivery system concerns, and doesn’t protect small business. Michael Barone points out that only five Democrats signed both letters, meaning that 57 House Democrats are sweating core provisions of the bill. “Twenty-nine of the 57 letter signers defeated or replaced Republicans in 2006 or 2008,” he wrote in the Washington Examiner. “Thirty-three of them represent districts carried by John McCain in 2008.” The vast majority of them are among the Democrats most likely to be defeated by Republicans in 2010.
These are just the fiscal concerns represented by health care. Democrats who support their party’s position will also run afoul of pro-life activists and many of their own constituents. “These bills would result in federally mandated coverage of abortion by nearly all health plans, federally mandated recruitment of abortionists by local health networks, and nullification of many state abortion laws,” said Doug Johnson of the National Right to Life Committee in a statement. “They would also result in federal subsidies for abortion on a massive scale.”
Johnson argued that abortion subsidies would be likely unless explicitly prohibited, even if the Hyde Amendment remains in force. He called it a “condition red” alert for pro-life activists and “the largest expansion of abortion since Roe v. Wade.” More than 20 pro-life House Democrats have sent their leadership a letter expressing their opposition to mandatory abortion coverage, though pro-life Sen. Bob Casey (D-PA) helped such a bill clear the Senate’s health committee.
No matter the outcome of the legislative battles, a series of such damning votes could have the effect of uniting the old conservative coalition — taxpayers, gun owners, pro-lifers, and national security hawks — against the new Democrats. It might even be enough to turn some Blue Dog districts red once more.
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Anthony| 9.14.09 @ 9:06AM
I've long been a fan of term limits, given the systemic corruption and hubris that Congress has exhibited over the past few decades and especially since the Pelosi/ Obama era. That said, let me echo Mark Levin's admonition to the "Blue Dogs"; if you continue to support these outlandish, far left, debt laden, anti-capitalism bills, we will make sure that your cushy tenure in the Congresssional political "big leagues" comes to an end. We will send you all back to the small law firms from where you started your political careers. For some of you, it might be working the 2nd shift at Home Depot. Regardless, you'll be back to being the nobodys that you were. Think Tom Daschle without the K street gig.
Michael L. Hauschild| 9.14.09 @ 9:37AM
News flash: Those blue dogs, so often elevated as the salvation of conservatism, are still democrats. They owe their very beltway existence and access to the “perks” needed to mollify their non ninety-eight percent constituent blocks to the DNC (and foreign campaign funding.) They will cave, as will the RINOS.
The fix is in. The centerpiece of democrat dogma, Universal Health Care, will move foreword, the most vulnerable legislators will be sacrificed, or “take one for the team.”
The bill to come out of the house will be “soft,” resplendent in the “bipartisanship” banner of compromise and aimed at the Palin, Wilson, Tea Party influence.
The bill to come out of the house will be the “hard” version bereft of all semblances of capitulation and born on the “budget” criteria by the minions of “The Reparations Candidate.”
The mischief will occur in the joint bill markup (if you can call socialism mischief). The moderate and conservative provisions will be stripped, the house majority will pass the “compromise” bill, the Senate will use the nuclear option to do the same, Obama will use a pen with the Union Label (made in china and bearing a red star) to sign the bill.
I had hoped that the public outcry so evident this weekend would have held some sway but unless you watched Fox you would not know since the alphabeters reported the “town hall” event held by POTUS as more significant.
I suspect that the only hope to save the greatest health care system in the world now is that the legislature is so inefficient that they delay past the cloture boundary.
What I have stated is the worse case scenario but you must realize that stimulus, cap and trade, and czars are all currently viable.
Tenn Slim| 9.14.09 @ 10:02AM
I had hoped that the public outcry so evident this weekend would have held some sway but unless you watched Fox you would not know since the alphabeters reported the “town hall” event held by POTUS as more significant.
ALL
The Fox net reported the event positively, CNN sneered and NBC ignored it. Sunday Shows referenced the event, but largely ignored the message.
HOWEVER< my Blue Dog Rep from Western Tenn did not. He took notice, as the event was also played out in HIS district. He also has been the Recipient of the Glenn Beck Question list, responded VERY quick, as the Staffer know that 2010 may well be the end of their jobs.
bt
Semper Fi
Ken (Old Texican)| 9.14.09 @ 10:22AM
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James C. Harwood | 9.14.09 @ 11:54AM
As NBC's Meet the Press was about to come on Sunday 13 September 2009, I heard a teaser about one of the topics. I thought it was, “Are moderates vanishing?” Then whoever was going to address that subject was named. They never got to it, and I didn't find anything about it in the posted transcript. I just did a Google Search in News for “vanishing moderates” and one of the results listed is the excellent article “Blue Dogs Turn Red” by W James Antle III from the September 2009 issue at the American Spectator website. In it is the line, “In a two-party system, the voters have only the Republicans to turn to when disappointed with the Democrats.” That is in fact the reality of the situation. Even so, it need not remain that way. I hear a lot of talk of “centrist Republicans and centrist Democrats.” There can be a third choice, as indicated at the World's Smallest Political Quiz website. There is the old question of “Which came first, the chicken or the egg?” A flawed question because it does not include a possible third option. The egg is the child, the chicken is the mother, the rooster is the father. So maybe the rooster came first. Likewise, the question of being a left liberal Democrat or a right conservative Republican is flawed. Is our political system suffering from Bipolar Disorder? If so, then the cure is a realistic third choice. As a moderate centrist, I am now a member of the American Centrist Party [dot net]. I am posting this in Comments following the Antle article, and Letter to the Editor there, also in the American Centrist Party forum http://americancentristparty.net/phpbb/index.php website, and at my HEREafter Realms http://hereafterebooks.blogspot.com blog, noted where I am HEREafter1956 at Twitter. – James C. Harwood, Science Fiction Author, Norman Oklahoma.
Michael L. Hauschild| 9.14.09 @ 11:58AM
Tenn Slim,
".......my Blue Dog Rep from Western Tenn did not. He took notice, as the event was also played out in HIS district. He also has been the Recipient of the Glenn Beck Question list, responded VERY quick, as the Staffer know that 2010 may well be the end of their jobs."
They have the votes. Your rep will be:
1. Given a pass
2. Sacraficed
3. Take one for the team (which you seem to doubt, so we trust you there)
Do not become complacent and do not trust them or you will be standing in line at the doctor's office.
Michael L. Hauschild| 9.14.09 @ 12:10PM
I meant to say the "hard" version would come out of the Senate, sorry.
tj| 9.14.09 @ 12:22PM
We need to picket the
offices of the commie media and demand they tell the truth.... Acorn did it to the bank so lets use Alinsky rules against them and bring them down... they are already tanking... so maybe a "Nudge" in right direction!!!
JP| 9.14.09 @ 2:33PM
Moderates seem to be the first to go when things go south. Remember such moderates as Liddy Dole, and Chuck Hegel? Remember Rep Shays? The Left is no different; Conservative or Moderate Dems are hard to find -and I'm speaking of voting record and not rhetoric.
The New England Liberal Republican and the Southern Conservative Democrat are almost an endangered species.
stmichrick| 9.14.09 @ 2:43PM
The primary characteristic of a Blue Dog is an the ability to have things BOTH ways.
It usually happens in conservative areas of one party states. It always happens when Republicans cannot field a viable candidates. The issues may be on our side, but the Party lets us down.
Hopefully, our current excursion into socialism will purge the party and bring forward more PRINCIPLED leadership.
Michael Tomlinson| 9.14.09 @ 4:26PM
Despite Antle's former love affair with Obama's lying blue lapdogs he paints a potentially bloody red picture for these reliable yellow dogs (they vote 80% of the time for the neo-fascist Obama-Pelosi-Reid DemocRAT agenda).
That these curs are skulking cowards afraid of their records is proven by yellow backed Blanche Lincoln running away from her constituents during the last Congressional recess (a fitting word for the juvenile blue lap cur liberals). Even the centrist Democrat-Gazette (Arkansas' one major news rag) mocked and belittled yellow dog DemocRAT Lincoln for her cowardice to face the voters.
In a state securely DemocRAT in all but Presidential elections since the disastrous Huckster governorship of corruption and taxes Republicans are salivating at the thought of taking on the Reid minion. A credible could send this DemocRAT to the kennel with her tail between her legs.
As for misogynist Webb, rich-boy Warner, mealy mouthed Pryor, election-stealing Begich and Obama loyalist Casey rest assured they'll heel like the rest of Obama's bitches when the leash is yanked by their masters (Obama-Reid-Pelosi and Hoyer).
Hopefully, voters will euthanize the blue curs (what Obama Democrats seem to want to do with senior citizens) and replace them with Republicans who will tear into Obama's despotic agenda like junkyard dogs after a rat.
Conservatives learn the lesson -- a flea bitten blue dog is still a stinking reliably liberal yellow dog.
John Navratil| 9.14.09 @ 5:55PM
Mr. Hauschild,
I do not despair that the "blue dogs" are a safe vote for the Dems. I agree with you that they will...
1. be given a pass
2. sacrificed
3. take one for the team
If they are all given a pass, the Dems lose (not enough votes).
If they are sacrificed, they are faced with a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" conundrum. Do they vote against the party and lose all party support in 2010, or with it and face losing in the general election. It is hard to imagine the party throwing an incumbent over in a mid-term for an unknown quantity. My bet it they read the tea leaves and take the bet that the party might make an example of one, but not of many.
"Taking one for the team" is the question. The question for the rep is if the team is strong enough to save their seat in repayment for such loyalty. We will see, but that isn't an easy call to make.
Michael L. Hauschild| 9.14.09 @ 7:50PM
Mr. Navratil,
"Taking one for the team" means they will be first in line for some plum appointment anointment , which is not the doomsday scenario many here predict for them. (And by my head count they have the votes.) Do you really think that the devious bean counters who have been counting heads for a living do not know exactly the tally they need? Anyone that thinks "all" of the blue dogs will vote with the republicans is completely naive and simply begging for another lesson in political skulduggery.
All I am saying is that they are now balancing their losses against their post Roosevelt dream of goverment run health care.
Do not become complacent, do not hesitate to every day contact your representatives, do not sit back and relax, send the candidates where ever, whenever, and whatever you can afford directly. This has been a good weekend but it is simply a battle in a long war.
Ken (Old Texican)| 9.14.09 @ 8:35PM
Honestly, people!
Are you going to sit beside the road and bitch? Are you going to DO anything...but bitch?
Are you going to dust yourselves off and stand as free Americans?
Or .....are you going to sit in the ditch and bitch?
Several hundred of you have stood up and are marching. Where in hell are the rest of you bitchers? www.myteamusa.org
Ken (Old Texican)| 9.14.09 @ 8:43PM
Sorry, people!
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I sometimes wonder why I spend any time here. ALLLLL these bright thoughts.........and no action I can perceive.
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Spicy Joker| 9.14.09 @ 10:08PM
The Lap Dog Democrats aren't our friends.
Michael L. Hauschild| 9.14.09 @ 10:41PM
Ken,
I will send you forty dollars, however you must refrain from stating that I have a dead arse, arthritic knees and hands yes, but my arse is just fine.
Michael L. Hauschild| 9.14.09 @ 10:53PM
Ken,
Better get over to your web site and see why I can not connect with Pay Pal or why I cannot use the email form to find an address to send a check.
Put your address here if you think that proper.
Ken (Old Texican)| 9.15.09 @ 2:31PM
Michael
I'm sorry, guys. The trigger is obviously not "robust enough" yet. Lots of sign ups. Thanks for the heads up, Michael.
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