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The Common Sense Panel

Distorting the facts. Tim Pawlenty. The end of life costs. Plus more.

THE ENTITLEMENT MENTALITY
Re: Philip Klein's Live or Let Die:

With someone else paying and mandating where and when I need to visit these places does the same thing for me as Medicare did for my Mother. Free is free. I certainly wish someone would "insure" me a new Lexus to replace my "poor" person's car.

The day we started to subsidize more and more aspects of life creating an entitlement mentality is the day we started to destroy the individual responsibility to be responsible for ourselves and our charges... Doesn't matter where we draw the line for a subsidized cost structure the end result is the same. There will always be a portion of any population of people that will live off good intentions and their appetite is truly inexhaustible. No where in the current legislative thrust is the root problems addressed and is clearly designed to feed the beast more free health care money on one end while punishing those that have to deal with the system as providers, payers and consumers on the other.

A month ago I switched to a MSA (medical savings account). That saved me $90.00 a month all of which went into my 401K to keep government from getting a pay raise off my decision. I assumed the increased "risk" associated with this decision along with the expected reward. My decision and mine alone. If the current Marxists in power muck up what I have done at any level I'll have no disincentive to not react in a way appropriate for the Tyranny this represents. Not one. The Reaper is going to be a nice guy compared to the guy many of our pampered powder puffs in government are going to meet if they screw this up. It can't be made any plainer than that.
-- Thom Bateman
Newport News, Virginia

Mr. Klein raises many interesting points regarding "Advanced Care Planning Consultation" often and rightly called the "Death Panel." All adults are well served by having their medical intentions known, and the ACPC might well serve that purpose, but even if it served the purpose as well as the left would have us believe, the citizens of America would not be well served by it. Efficiency is a necessary cause for the panel, but it is far from sufficient cause. No matter how effectively and dispassionately the panel could process the information, it would still be interfering in intimate and private matters; it would be extending the intrusive hand of government into personal affairs.(Ironically, it is the left who magically divined a right to "privacy" in the Constitution.)  These medical/ethical decisions are to be decided between doctors, patients, their families and faith providers. Sharing this information with those intimately involved is the logical choice, but not pursuing one’s self-interests logically is not illegal. When a person does not share his medical intentions, he does so at his own peril.

Conservatives understand that all resources are limited and trust the "invisible hand" of the free market to establish the economic values of these resources. Here Mr. Klein demonstrates his conservative bona fides by bringing the question of resources and values to the forefront of the argument. He rightly points out that the neither the government nor private sector can produce "an effectively unlimited amount of resources to treat those who are terminally ill or in a comatose state…." Someone must be responsible for these valuations and decisions. Obama and others on the left clearly believe the decision is best left to some distant and dispassionate bureaucrat while conservative believe the matter is a private one.

Economic conservatives advocate for free markets in all aspects of economics. This free marketing allows people make many choices regarding what work to pursue and how to spend their income. People spend to make their lives as enjoyable as possible. They are free to buy a plasma television or invest their earnings in the stock market. The same philosophy can be applied to the dying process. People can invest for the own eldercare -- or not. Since the government will continue to be a player in our lives, and they will continue to tax our wealth, asking that the government provide a minimum safety net is not inconsistent with conservative values. Fearing the charge they lack compassion has caused many so called conservatives (e.g., President Bush and Senator McCain) to advocate for The Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act and other government programs.

General John Stark wrote, "Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." Death is inevitable but big government interference is an evil that can be avoided.  
-- I.M.Kessel

If the Democrats want to cut down on health care for seniors and the incurable, non-productive residents of this country, does that mean hospitals and doctors will not have to treat patients with AIDS? How about the homeless?
-- D. J. Sullivan

Since you lack the intergrity to take issue with reforming health care on its own merits you had to resort to scare tactics and provocative headlines of "death panels"? As one of the vanguards of the dying conservative Republican party, your methods are reprehensible and unforgivable. You tap into the worst of the American character without any sense of conscience or integrity. Well, tell me sirs, how many deaths have occurred because people didn't have health insurance or got dropped from their insurance policies?

How many of your employees have been laid off and don't have health insurance now? I'd like to hear from them,
-- Barbara Sorin

Democracy comes at a price...putting up with your "kind" of people is just part of the cost. It's a shame that on account of your greed you would deny health care to many needy Americans. One can only hope that the God you people insist on invoking has a special place in hell for all of you.
-- Gary Hankin

SEEING IS BELIEVING
Re: Robert M. Goldberg's Facts Are Not Distortion:

I believe it was Chico Marx, not Groucho, who said "Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?"
-- Robert Nowall
Cape Coral, Florida

Facts, schmacts! Whatever you call them, they are, indeed, distortion for this president, his administration, his policy wonks and his party, the Democrats.

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Letter to the Editor View all comments (19) | Leave a comment

frost| 8.17.09 @ 7:33AM

So very predictable -- Barbara Sorin calls names and lectures with innuendo, no facts to bolster her opinion...
Sad.

frost| 8.17.09 @ 7:34AM

Oh, ditto the sanctimonious Mr. Hankin...

IMKessel| 8.17.09 @ 8:12AM

"Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?"

Chico Marx (Duck Soup) 1933
Groucho Mark (Animal Crackers) 1930

Ain't the internet great?

PS

Frost, any jackass can bray, but few can assert and give supporting evidence. ;-)

David Gonzalez| 8.17.09 @ 8:26AM

They're both drones. I've not read the bill, but I've heard from people who have (plus, I've heard the Liar-in-Chief ramble on). The administration plans on adopting "quality of life" standards, administered by bureaucratic boards, to determine who gets treatment and who doesn't (or, more precisely, whether the government will pay for that treatment). To the best of my knowledge, the bill doesn't contain the phrase "death panel", but if something walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's not unfair or mendacious to characterize that thing as a duck!

frost| 8.17.09 @ 9:10AM

Not certain how much relivance this may have with today's doings, but thought I might share something I came across (after all, Howard Dean is supposedly an MD, and I just completed a fun book called "Job"): Ilana Mercer wrote: “I got thinking about the Book of Job after Ann Coulter made fun of Howard Dean for choosing Job as his favorite ‘New Testament reading.’ Dean is an unsharpened pencil, for sure, but he is right about Job. It’s unrivaled—easily the best book in the Bible… Job challenged the ultimate authority, not because he was rebellious, but because he was righteous and true to himself… Contemporary parallels to Job’s individualism are hard to come by, not least because the State has replaced God as the ultimate authority. Other than principled libertarians, nobody challenges the god-of-government in any meaningful way.”

frost| 8.17.09 @ 9:21AM

Uh, I really do know how to spell "relevance," honest, but when you peck with just a couple index fingers, often you hit dumb keys - kinda like Thelonious Monk hitting the cracks occasionally...

cuban pete| 8.17.09 @ 10:39AM

frost,
I always enjoy your insights.
However, I do believe that when TSM "hit the cracks occasionally" it was on purpose.

Ray| 8.17.09 @ 11:14AM

Barbara Sorin, I have a better question for you: How many people have died in the last 20 years because they don't have health insurance? That's right, NONE! So, where's the "health care crisis" I keep hearing the liberals, like Obama, claim is occurring in America? Here's a clue: It doesn't exist. It's a lie, a fabrication, and you, and the rest of the Liberals, should admit it.

frost| 8.17.09 @ 12:30PM

Thanks, Pete, but that was kind od "toungue-in-cheek." Wasn't he a kick !!!

cuban pete| 8.17.09 @ 4:15PM

A kick indeed.
I'm going home and putting on "Straight, No Chaser"! By the way on this day in 1959 "Kind of Blue" was released.
The best to you.

frost| 8.17.09 @ 5:01PM

Which reminds me, pete -- Boplicity recorded March 22, '49.... can you believe that?

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