8.12.09 @ 6:01AM
More reactions to Ben Stein's Expelled II. Plus FreeScore, John
Hughes, Linda Douglass and more.
EXTRA CREDIT
Re: Ben Stein's
Expelled From the New York Times:
A class act does not belong with the politburo. I will no longer
pick up the times when I stop by the 7/11 for a cup of Joe!
-- DG
Thank you for having an intelligent and humorous writer such as
Mr. Stein as part of your team. If you would, please pass on to
Mr. Stein that I will be thanking God for him and his work.
(since I have the audacity to call the Intelligent Designer by
his actual name!!) Keep up the great work.
-- Teresa Rainone, MD
I found a portion of Mr. Stein's article to be rather false:
"They confused (or some of them seemingly confused) FreeScore
with other companies that did not have FreeScore's unblemished
record with consumer protection agencies. (FreeScore has a
perfect record.)"
I checked freescore.com at the BBB and their parent company,
Vertrue, came up. This company has an F with the
BBB. While this rating isn't specifically for freescore.com,
I can't imagine that the parent company would suddenly start
conducting this one website in an upstanding manner, given their
past and present track record. This info took less than 5 minutes
to dig up, and frankly I'm disappointed that Mr. Stein couldn't
make that effort. These sites are notorious for their shady
practices, and I highly doubt freescore.com will be the one to
turn that reputation around.
-- Renee
Mr. Stein says "I had done a commercial for an Internet
aggregating company called FreeScore. This commercial offered
people a week of free access to their credit scores and then
required them to pay for further such access."
Yes, he did that. But that's not all he did in the commercial. It
is my understanding that the freescore.com folks only give you
the credit SCORE free -- you have to pay for the credit REPORT
(which you can actually get free elsewhere, because federal law
requires that). Unless my understanding is seriously flawed, Mr.
Stein's commercial plays the typical marketing word games,
alternating between SCORE and REPORT frequently, but carefully
attaching the "free" adjective only to the SCORE, giving viewers
the impression that they can get the REPORT free from freescore.
From the commercial: "You can't fix errors in your credit report
if you haven't seen it...freescore...gives me access to the three
major credit reports and scores."
Few people would come away from that commercial thinking they had
to pay freescore to get a credit REPORT.
Should the Times have axed Stein over this? I don't know. Depends
on what their ethics policy says, and I'm not privy to that.
Should Mr. Stein have been more honest in his description of the
freescore commercial? Methinks yes, he sure as shooting
should.
-- Lee Russ
Well, Ben. Maybe if you hadn't slandered hard-working
psychiatrists so maliciously, like this former veep of TCU's YAF
chapter, your Karma might have remained intact.
-- Scott A Joseph, MD
Of course the New York Times is an arm of the Democratic
Party and specifically Barack Obama. The damage the Times has
done to America is inestimable. We have a president who is set on
dismantling the very system of free-enterprise and capitalism
that allowed and financed him into the presidency. He doesn't see
-- Democrats don't see -- the irony in this. The
capitalist/free-enterprise system has brought wealth to America
and Americans and raised millions of non-Americans out of the
depth of abject poverty with its use of its wealth. As has been
said it is not a perfect system, there is none, it is only the
best invented so far. And the success of the system has allowed
citizens to live off the government and come to hate it. (Giving
creates resentment and jealousy). And now, in great part because
of the New York Times and other left-leaning media those
who lived off the government are now in power AS the government.
They cannot admit to the voters that there is much merit to the
free-enterprise system for that would undermine the very
arguments that elected them. I am sorry Ben Stein doesn't have a
job there, but I never read the Times anyway. I am
sorrier for America, Americans and the world, whose beacon of
freedom -- The United States of America -- is being diminished.
Perhaps permanently
-- Theodore M. Wight
Seattle, Washington
Freedom of expression in the U.S. has reached a tragic state,
when columnists are terminated for expressing a view of the
administration that is at variance with the newspaper's position.
The Times has lived for many years under the blessings of Freedom
of Speech. It is a shame to see that expansive view of freedom
corrupted by the Times into a lowly vendetta for political
reasons. It may be just another death throe paroxysm.
-- Ernest M. Raasch
Wear the dismissal from the NYT as a badge of honor and for
friggin' sakes, stop buying the paper. You are loved and
respected as a major public intellect by millions.
-- Fredic D. Ohr
THE KRUGMAN STANDARD
Re: Reader Mail's
Cancel My Times Subscription:
Reader Anthony Deutsch's advice that Ben Stein "shouldn't do
commercials for cheesy free credit report outfits" seems in
retrospect to be spot on. If Stein had followed Paul Krugman's
lead, and limited his ties only to such business stalwarts as
Enron, perhaps his position with the Times would have
remained secure.
--Glen Hoffing
Shamong, New Jersey
DISHONEST VIRTUES
Re: Jeffrey Lord's
When a President Lies: Why Linda Douglass Should Resign:
Why should Linda Douglass resign? She represents fittingly a
president who should have another "middle" name: Mendacious.
Curious, though: If she's so willing to publicly lie so for the
president, what possible moral underpinning would compel Douglass
to resign? Clearly, allegiance to the man wins over allegiance to
her conscience.
-- C. Kenna Amos Jr.
KIND OF WONDERFUL
Re: Andrew Cline's
John Hughes: American Rebel:
I saw a quote from John Hughes somewhere that went along these
lines: Over the years, his characters went from adults to teens
to babies, and that he figured he'd be working with microscopic
characters before long. When I hadn't heard of any recent work
from him, I figured he dropped below the line of visibility to
the naked eye.
Actually, I haven't seen all Hughes's movies, but the ones I
have, I enjoyed, and usually a lot.
--Robert Nowall
Cape Coral, Florida
As a fan of motion pictures, I was not that big a fan of John
Hughes, having only seen Ferris and Some Kind Of
Wonderful. However, he was far better than the directors
giving us the stuff we are seeing today. To be in his films he
had a different requirement for his actors, it was called
"talent". You knew when you went to the movie theater, it was
going to be a quality project and John Hughes was going to
deliver the goods.
-- Michael Skaggs
Murray, Kentucky
SILENT LAUGHTER
Re: Lloyd Daub's letter (under "Not to Die For") in Reader Mail's
We're
Becoming Venezuela:
I have never considered Steve Martin (or Jim Carrey) to be funny.
Hyperbolic, overbearing, crass, and rude? Yes. Funny? No.
-- David Shoup
JUST WORDS
Re: Peter Hannaford's
Illusions and Delusions About the Uninsured:
The 46 million represent scads of illegal aliens who already
receive equal or better medical care than U.S. citizens in places
such as California and Arizona.
Besides, what's a little embellishment or two for the Obama
administration?
And if they don't like the numbers, they'll just change them and
pretend that they never gave earlier estimates, in the same
fashion Obama denies what he's said, even if it's recorded in
print and video.
Words, just words, according to Dr. Obama.
-- C. Kenna Amos Jr.
Princeton, West
Virginia