He's smart, he's funny, and he "steals" cars legally. (He's also
the best friend you never knew you had.) Our July-August
issue's cover story.
Business for the nation’s top recovery agents (better known as
“repo men”) is booming. It has gotten to the point that some of
them are feeling downright uncomfortable about their own
success.
“Joe the Plumber used to be our friend and neighbor,” says J.
Patrick Altes, 54, the softspoken, red-haired president of Falcon
Inter national in Daytona Beach. “Now we’re repoing his truck.”
Altes is dealing with a surge of delinquencies and
defaults—coming at the end of a long boom in Florida’s real estate
and construction markets. With 50 employees and a fleet of 10
“self-loading” tow trucks, which can hook and remove a car or truck
from a homeowner’s driveway in a matter of seconds, Altes is
bringing in 400 cars and trucks per month this year, up from 175
month in early 2008.
While business is better than ever, Altes does not like having
to target “fellow church members and Rotarians.” It’s the price he
pays for moving “from crack town to the gated communities.” He’s
spending less time with “the usual con men, travelers, and
deadbeats,” and more time with “good people who, through no fault
of their own, are unable to pay their bills.” Though sympathetic to
their plight, he has put the clamps on scores of struggling or
outof- work real estate agents, appraisers, mortgage bankers,
merchants, carpenters, roofers, carpet layers,
and—yes—plumbers.
According to national statistics compiled by MVTRAC, a
Chicago-based firm, repo agents will pick up an estimated 2 million
vehicles in 2009, up from 1.8 million in 2008, 1.6 million in 2007,
and 1.1 million in 2002. The repossession of boats has nearly
doubled over the past two years.
In the steepness of the current economic downturn, the upturn in
the repo business may be likened to a movie on runaway consumption
played in reverse. Think of all the fancy cars, boats, jet skis,
and Harleys that were flying off dealers’ lots and landing in front
of peoples’ homes during the economic boom. Now think of the same
objects flying back the other way, landing in lots similar to, if
not identical with, the places where they were first sold, where
they will now be auctioned off to a new set of owners at distressed
prices. This is the forcible deleveraging of America.
Even if you are biased in favor of the consumer, it would be
wrong to dismiss the man responsible for retrieving those
backward-flying assets as some kind of blackguard profiting from
the misfortunes of others. Believe it or not, the repo man is your
friend. Like the butcher, the baker, and the candlestick maker, he
exemplifies the power of the “invisible hand.” Without a doubt,
your own affairs as a consumer or small business owner would be
more difficult without him.
If you have ever bought anything on installment—from a car or a
truck to the equipment needed to run a farm or a small- or
medium-sized business—you can thank the enterprising and
resourceful repo man for helping to make you a creditworthy risk in
the eyes of the lender. You can also thank him for the fact that
you pay a much lower interest rate on your installment loan than
you do on your credit card, which is not secured by any collateral.
You might even thank him for your job—if you still have one.
This is how Jack S. Barnes, a nationally recognized expert on
the repossession and liquidation of collateral, explains it in his
book Collateral Recovery, published in 2008:
The ability to repossess collateral to reduce losses from a
defaulted loan, and the right to dispose of that collateral, are
two of the most important laws affecting the financial health of
the United States! In 1990, 41% ($288 billion) of all installment
loans outstanding were for the purchase of cars. The latest report
indicates enormous growth. The current report by the Federal
Reserve estimates the amount of installment loans in this country
to be $1.3 trillion and that 60% or $780 billion is in outstanding
auto loans. The ability to repossess an automobile if the loan
defaults provides the security for these loans.
Without the ability to repossess, funds would dry up…with
devastating results to both the auto industry and the nation’s
economy. It is easy to see the immediate impact on the auto
manufacturer, the corner gas station, the auto parts store,
radiator shop, the tire shop, auto mechanics and dealers, fabric
manufacturers, electronic manufacturers, glass manufacturers, and
hundreds more. Add to that the grocer, department store, and every
other merchant where those now unemployed shopped, well, the circle
keeps growing.
I Decide to Pay the Repo Man a Surprise
Visit
Earlier this year, a repo man knocked on the door of a friend of
mine—the owner of a small business—and asked for the keys to the
car. My friend had missed a couple of car payments because some of
his clients had been slow in paying him, and also because he had
over-stretched—leaving no margin for the possibility of late
payments. Looking out the door, he saw his prized Mercedes dangling
from the back of a tow truck. Like it or not, this was the old
story of losing a favorite toy due to careless or negligent
behavior. After arguing for a few minutes, he handed over the
keys.
That incident piqued my interest in the repo trade, but it had
nothing to do with how I came to know Pat Altes, Jack Barnes, and
other members of the profession, including the legendary Ron L.
Brown, an ex-CIA agent who has repoed “everything from a
million-dollar oil rig…and 40 head of cattle…to seven prostitutes”
sought as witnesses in a celebrated Hous ton murder case. (Acting,
in effect, as a repo agent for the Texas Rangers, Brown was able to
track the badly frightened girls down to a hiding place in Corpus
Christi and secure their safety, before the murderer and his
friends discovered their whereabouts—and secured their
silence.)
My introduction to the repo trade came about as an unexpected
result of a trip I made to Daytona Beach in mid-April. When my wife
and I stopped for lunch at the famous Shores Resort & Spa, the
lobby was filled with a boisterous convention crowd. Over lunch I
wondered aloud about the identity of the group.
I expect within a year, some of these clunker replacements will
be on repo lots.
Ken (Old Texican)| 8.11.09 @ 9:20AM
No one...No one... expected this kind of crash.
The first TARP bill, like it or not, was needed. Even Rush and
Newt agree.
Bush, as always, trusted his helpers too much, and forgot that
either a communist...or a broken warrior... was following him
into the oval office.
Since the election, those communist America haters have been
licking their chops, and feeding the pigs.
Nevertheless, we America lovers will win this war.
BET ON IT, T.E.A.M. !!!
PolishKnight| 8.11.09 @ 10:04AM
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Sean| 8.11.09 @ 10:44AM
Ken,
There were people that predicted this crash. They are also the
ones that opposed TARP. The ones that couldn't predict the crash
supported TARP. The ones that couldn't predict the crash also
supported the stimulus bill. Those that predicted the crash
opposed the stimulus bill. Unfortunately too many people are
still listening to those that are clueless.
Dan| 8.11.09 @ 1:13PM
Becky, I suspect your right on the money.
Thats just what everyone needs more consumer debt.
Probably good times ahead for the repo-man.
Robert Pinkerton| 8.11.09 @ 1:25PM
Only by semantic laxity does one "borrow" money from strangers;
rather, one rents a stranger's money, the rental
charge being "interest." Unlike 99+% of my fellow Americans, I
have always -- consistently -- thought that the renting of a
stranger's money for personal consumption to be the height of
folly. (Gambling with rented money leaves "stupid" far, far
behind in the direction of suicidal perversity.) As such, I not
only never ever obligated myself to pay even so little as a penny
of "interest," but have silently cheered every time I have heard
of someone garnisheed (i.e.: Wages attached, stopped and diverted
to the creditor) or repo'd. I hoped against hope (Yes, I consider
hope a vice. Make of that what you will.) that the humiliation
might induce the victim to change his/her ways. Whether one
actually borrows -- i.e.: Without charge, from family or
friends -- or rents from a stranger, alongside of any material
object that might be in pledge as security, one's honor is in
pledge for security; mine is just too precious to me to risk in
betting on the future. Too, simply I cannot justify spending the
extra that is interest, when by waiting 'til I have saved enough,
I can obtain what I want for simply its tagged price.
Fifty years ago, when I was fifteen, I heard a favorite aunt
complaining about the paperwork she had to do every time one of
the laborers in the scrapyard (where she worked as office
"manager" -- two other office girls) got garnisheed -- which was
frequently. I could not understand how any adult could bear such
humiliation without suicide. Needless to say, I learnt more as my
field of social observation broadened and deepened.
In my last two years of college, my side job -- part-time -- was
as a bill collector for a finance company. (I had one of the
debtors, a hard-core deadbeat, tell me he would rather deal with
a demon out of hell than with me. I never raised my voice, nor
used profanity, nor got really or feigned angry; nothing
personal, just business.) Forget your anti-Sicilian ethnic slurs
about the Cosa Nostra collector and his baseball bat: The law of
the State of Ohio gave the creative creditor everything he might
need at take a delinquent debtor apart. And, yes. I had
asked my boss to give me only people from whom the company did
not want repeat business. I finished my BA with
NO overhanging indebtedness in 1970, and quit
the collection business.
However, while I applied for work after college, I was told by
several prospective employers that, while I otherwise looked very
good to them, the deal-breaker in my personal history was the
fact that I had no indebtedness whatsoever! Make of that what you
will; however, intervening decades of observation have led me to
put a thoroughly malign construal thereon. The person without
indebtedness but with savings, if he gets fired, is well able to
pick himself up, dust himself off, and straightaway commence
searching for other work, not needing to take simply any port in
a storm; perhaps his pride is slightly hurt, but that is all.
Likewise, the person with no debts but also no savings, though
loss of employment might cause him more pain and diminish his
choices of subsequent employment through need for immediacy.
However, the poor soul who is base over apex in debt with no
savings, is the one who will be seriously hurt by loss of
employment regardless of the reason for this; this is the one who
is meat for the employer bent on doing unlawful -- or lawful but
unconscionable -- things, for this poor soul wears a collar with
leash attached, which leash can be jerked. I have seen this last
situation happen to others.
I acknowledge without shame nor guilt that I hate the very
institution of consumer credit, and that I
love that hatred as a stimulus to virtue. I believe myself
vindicated in that attitude by the current crisis. Such economic
growth as the United States should pursue is closer to hardwood
tree-ring growth than the fashion of bubble "growth," for it is
in the nature of bubbles that they burst. Consumer credit is the
noxious gas (Flatus of the body politic?) with which our recent
bubbles bave been filled.
Assuming the United States survives this current crisis, if the
crisis teaches a large minority of our population unconditionally
to loathe and shun consumer credit at all costs,
perhaps some value might be extracted from the aftermath.
Unfortunately, however, at least I believe that we Americans are
seing the beginning of the end for this country as a unified
political entity.
Dan| 8.11.09 @ 1:48PM
Robert, your so right. The public has been brainwashed to expect
easy credit.
Even the theme song for one of the credit card companies sings
loud and clear, "I want it and I want it now".
PolishKnight| 8.11.09 @ 2:14PM
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something they couldn't afford and/or go over it.
In the commercial, the man gets all excited over buying a 60 inch
flat panel TV and when he checks his limit, he returns home with
a more modest 32 inch. His wife says helpfully to him: "This is
nice." I thought it was wonderful that the ad was showing respect
for a man living within his credit limit (which isn't perfect,
but a start anyway.)
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Elyse| 9.16.09 @ 10:25AM
Repo Men and The "Big Truck Syndrome":
Run a background check on these "Repo Men" and what you will find
are “the usual con men, travelers, and deadbeats” that you have
unfairly applied as a label directed at those whom these creeps
target for repossession.
It is interesting that you have chosen to interview company
owners or the rare exception of a former CIA agent for this
article. Could this possibly be due to the fact that the vast
majority of Repo men are incapable of intelligent conversation,
have lengthy criminal records and constantly violate the laws
created to protect consumers within their States?
I am in favor of paying one's bills, but to send people with
histories of violent crimes (sex offenders included) onto the
private property of families with children, allowing access to
their keys (which they could copy and pass along to their
criminal buddies), for any reason is nothing short of dangerous
and irresponsible.
Besides this, after meeting many, I must now digress:
Come on! You must have figured out at your little "Repo Party"
that Repo Men are poorly educated criminals who make up for what
is lacking below by trying to intimidate people. They brag and
boast yet most make less than $30,000 a year and sneak around at
night trying to intimidate people-Mostly Women and their
children. Not the job of a tough guy, but the perfect job for a
guy who is too ill equipped and embarrassed to ever get laid.
Their job actually sucks, but NOBODY else would ever hire them!!!
How do I know all of this? I am a headhunter who has searched in
vain for reputable Repo companies who don't hire ex-cons or
people who lack judgement and common sense for several of my
National accounts. After weeding through hundreds of failed
background checks and interviewing people who made my skin crawl,
I had to move on to a more pleasant clientele. There is nothing
admirable about Repo Men.
I have been in the recovery business for 25 years. Like the true
professional in our industry I have a private investigators
license. In order to have that license I have to have a clean
criminal record just as all of my employees do. I agree there are
many undesirable people in the business. The problem is licensing
and only two state require training and licensing of recovery
agents.
The true professional recovery agent is aware of all laws that
impact their business. They will see that all of their employees
take an independent training course to make sure they understand
the laws. The problem is the finance companies and banks look for
the cheap repossession and hire the cheapest company available.
These financial institutions who farm out 8 to 10,000 repossession
a month latterly look for the cheap repoman. If they can save $50
or $75 dollars a recovery that save their company as much as
$750,000.00 a month.
When a repossession goes bad the financial institution is $100%
responsible for the actions of the recovery agent. Some of these
financial demand a $5 million dollar insurance policy that will
defend the recovery agent and the financial institution in lawsuits
for wrongful repossession. Those insurance policy premiums are
based on the number of repossession the company will average a
year. The premiums can exceed over 100K per year.
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Becky| 8.11.09 @ 9:07AM
I expect within a year, some of these clunker replacements will be on repo lots.
Ken (Old Texican)| 8.11.09 @ 9:20AM
No one...No one... expected this kind of crash.
The first TARP bill, like it or not, was needed. Even Rush and Newt agree.
Bush, as always, trusted his helpers too much, and forgot that either a communist...or a broken warrior... was following him into the oval office.
Since the election, those communist America haters have been licking their chops, and feeding the pigs.
Nevertheless, we America lovers will win this war.
BET ON IT, T.E.A.M. !!!
PolishKnight| 8.11.09 @ 10:04AM
What a wonderful article!
Sean| 8.11.09 @ 10:44AM
Ken,
There were people that predicted this crash. They are also the ones that opposed TARP. The ones that couldn't predict the crash supported TARP. The ones that couldn't predict the crash also supported the stimulus bill. Those that predicted the crash opposed the stimulus bill. Unfortunately too many people are still listening to those that are clueless.
Dan| 8.11.09 @ 1:13PM
Becky, I suspect your right on the money.
Thats just what everyone needs more consumer debt.
Probably good times ahead for the repo-man.
Robert Pinkerton| 8.11.09 @ 1:25PM
Only by semantic laxity does one "borrow" money from strangers; rather, one rents a stranger's money, the rental charge being "interest." Unlike 99+% of my fellow Americans, I have always -- consistently -- thought that the renting of a stranger's money for personal consumption to be the height of folly. (Gambling with rented money leaves "stupid" far, far behind in the direction of suicidal perversity.) As such, I not only never ever obligated myself to pay even so little as a penny of "interest," but have silently cheered every time I have heard of someone garnisheed (i.e.: Wages attached, stopped and diverted to the creditor) or repo'd. I hoped against hope (Yes, I consider hope a vice. Make of that what you will.) that the humiliation might induce the victim to change his/her ways. Whether one actually borrows -- i.e.: Without charge, from family or friends -- or rents from a stranger, alongside of any material object that might be in pledge as security, one's honor is in pledge for security; mine is just too precious to me to risk in betting on the future. Too, simply I cannot justify spending the extra that is interest, when by waiting 'til I have saved enough, I can obtain what I want for simply its tagged price.
Fifty years ago, when I was fifteen, I heard a favorite aunt complaining about the paperwork she had to do every time one of the laborers in the scrapyard (where she worked as office "manager" -- two other office girls) got garnisheed -- which was frequently. I could not understand how any adult could bear such humiliation without suicide. Needless to say, I learnt more as my field of social observation broadened and deepened.
In my last two years of college, my side job -- part-time -- was as a bill collector for a finance company. (I had one of the debtors, a hard-core deadbeat, tell me he would rather deal with a demon out of hell than with me. I never raised my voice, nor used profanity, nor got really or feigned angry; nothing personal, just business.) Forget your anti-Sicilian ethnic slurs about the Cosa Nostra collector and his baseball bat: The law of the State of Ohio gave the creative creditor everything he might need at take a delinquent debtor apart. And, yes. I had asked my boss to give me only people from whom the company did not want repeat business. I finished my BA with NO overhanging indebtedness in 1970, and quit the collection business.
However, while I applied for work after college, I was told by several prospective employers that, while I otherwise looked very good to them, the deal-breaker in my personal history was the fact that I had no indebtedness whatsoever! Make of that what you will; however, intervening decades of observation have led me to put a thoroughly malign construal thereon. The person without indebtedness but with savings, if he gets fired, is well able to pick himself up, dust himself off, and straightaway commence searching for other work, not needing to take simply any port in a storm; perhaps his pride is slightly hurt, but that is all. Likewise, the person with no debts but also no savings, though loss of employment might cause him more pain and diminish his choices of subsequent employment through need for immediacy. However, the poor soul who is base over apex in debt with no savings, is the one who will be seriously hurt by loss of employment regardless of the reason for this; this is the one who is meat for the employer bent on doing unlawful -- or lawful but unconscionable -- things, for this poor soul wears a collar with leash attached, which leash can be jerked. I have seen this last situation happen to others.
I acknowledge without shame nor guilt that I hate the very institution of consumer credit, and that I love that hatred as a stimulus to virtue. I believe myself vindicated in that attitude by the current crisis. Such economic growth as the United States should pursue is closer to hardwood tree-ring growth than the fashion of bubble "growth," for it is in the nature of bubbles that they burst. Consumer credit is the noxious gas (Flatus of the body politic?) with which our recent bubbles bave been filled.
Assuming the United States survives this current crisis, if the crisis teaches a large minority of our population unconditionally to loathe and shun consumer credit at all costs, perhaps some value might be extracted from the aftermath. Unfortunately, however, at least I believe that we Americans are seing the beginning of the end for this country as a unified political entity.
Dan| 8.11.09 @ 1:48PM
Robert, your so right. The public has been brainwashed to expect easy credit.
Even the theme song for one of the credit card companies sings loud and clear, "I want it and I want it now".
PolishKnight| 8.11.09 @ 2:14PM
Dan, my wife and I loved that commercial (with the song "I want it now")
It was actually a credit card advertising a feature for consumers to check their credit limit and stay in it, rather than buy something they couldn't afford and/or go over it.
In the commercial, the man gets all excited over buying a 60 inch flat panel TV and when he checks his limit, he returns home with a more modest 32 inch. His wife says helpfully to him: "This is nice." I thought it was wonderful that the ad was showing respect for a man living within his credit limit (which isn't perfect, but a start anyway.)
Dan| 8.11.09 @ 2:22PM
Remember it well.
GG| 8.12.09 @ 2:51AM
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Pietersen was operated on after his movement became increasingly restricted through the first two Ashes Tests.
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The surgery already meant he would miss the final three matches of the series.
"Pietersen will be discharged from hospital tomorrow after experiencing a complication of the wound made during surgery on his injured right Achilles two and a half weeks ago," the ECB said in a statement on Tuesday.
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Elyse| 9.16.09 @ 10:25AM
Repo Men and The "Big Truck Syndrome":
Run a background check on these "Repo Men" and what you will find are “the usual con men, travelers, and deadbeats” that you have unfairly applied as a label directed at those whom these creeps target for repossession.
It is interesting that you have chosen to interview company owners or the rare exception of a former CIA agent for this article. Could this possibly be due to the fact that the vast majority of Repo men are incapable of intelligent conversation, have lengthy criminal records and constantly violate the laws created to protect consumers within their States?
I am in favor of paying one's bills, but to send people with histories of violent crimes (sex offenders included) onto the private property of families with children, allowing access to their keys (which they could copy and pass along to their criminal buddies), for any reason is nothing short of dangerous and irresponsible.
Besides this, after meeting many, I must now digress:
Come on! You must have figured out at your little "Repo Party" that Repo Men are poorly educated criminals who make up for what is lacking below by trying to intimidate people. They brag and boast yet most make less than $30,000 a year and sneak around at night trying to intimidate people-Mostly Women and their children. Not the job of a tough guy, but the perfect job for a guy who is too ill equipped and embarrassed to ever get laid. Their job actually sucks, but NOBODY else would ever hire them!!!
How do I know all of this? I am a headhunter who has searched in vain for reputable Repo companies who don't hire ex-cons or people who lack judgement and common sense for several of my National accounts. After weeding through hundreds of failed background checks and interviewing people who made my skin crawl, I had to move on to a more pleasant clientele. There is nothing admirable about Repo Men.
Ray Crocker| 8.26.10 @ 10:42AM
I have been in the recovery business for 25 years. Like the true professional in our industry I have a private investigators license. In order to have that license I have to have a clean criminal record just as all of my employees do. I agree there are many undesirable people in the business. The problem is licensing and only two state require training and licensing of recovery agents.
The true professional recovery agent is aware of all laws that impact their business. They will see that all of their employees take an independent training course to make sure they understand the laws. The problem is the finance companies and banks look for the cheap repossession and hire the cheapest company available. These financial institutions who farm out 8 to 10,000 repossession a month latterly look for the cheap repoman. If they can save $50 or $75 dollars a recovery that save their company as much as $750,000.00 a month.
When a repossession goes bad the financial institution is $100% responsible for the actions of the recovery agent. Some of these financial demand a $5 million dollar insurance policy that will defend the recovery agent and the financial institution in lawsuits for wrongful repossession. Those insurance policy premiums are based on the number of repossession the company will average a year. The premiums can exceed over 100K per year.
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