The Marital Spectator
Sanford and Sun
The South Carolina governor comes back tanned, rested, and adulterous.
Mark Sanford’s press conference was riveting in its wobbliness. Most pols clutch tightly to a short, prepared statement after a scandal erupts; Sanford just winged it.
He “um, um, um”-ed his way through much of the press conference before getting the hook at the end from ashen-faced staffers. He followed them hesitantly out of the room in a mumbling, open-mouthed, and stunned state.
The press conference eclipsed even the eager expectations of chortling staffers at MSNBC. On Tuesday, they had gigglingly explored the possibility that Sanford was stumbling around the Appalachian Trail on its annual “nude hiking” day.
Nope, he had wanted to do something more “exotic,” as he put it to reporters. Like visit his mistress in Buenos Aires.
Reporters before the press conference puzzled over his earlier statement that he had visited Argentina to “drive along” its coastline — a strange aspiration for a tourist given the paucity of coastal roads in the Buenos Aires area. But perhaps Sanford wasn’t lying; maybe his mistress lives along the coastline and he was indeed eager to drive down it.
In any case, what exactly is “exotic” about adultery at this point? Monogamy looks more singularly exotic these days.
It was boring to hear Sanford, a self-described “bottom-line” kind of guy, engage in the usual post-adultery drivel about the “process” of forgiveness and the like, and that the affair began “innocently” enough. Who cares? His comments about simple “selfishness” and the price to be paid for violating “moral absolutes” were more to the point.
Naturally, a salivating press corps didn’t want to hear about “moral absolutes,” tripping over themselves with glee to file stories about the GOP’s “family values” brand taking another hit. They never tire of this sophomoric harping on hypocrisy, which never applies somehow to the Dems’ many instances of it.
If committing sexual sins means that the offender (and his political party) is henceforth duty bound to endorse sexual sins or recuse himself from all issues related to them, shouldn’t that same logic apply to Barack Obama and smoking? Shouldn’t Obama endorse smoking and recuse himself from all tobacco-related legislation? How come he gets to pass a stringent anti-cigarettes bill while puffing away at them furtively in the shadows of the White House garden?
Obama’s retort to this cheap point would be that he knows firsthand the dangers of tobacco addiction and wouldn’t want others to acquire it. But when have the Dems ever allowed their opponents to make the same valid point in other, less PC, areas of harmful behavior? The goal of their hypocrisy-harping is to get the GOP to live up to its standards perfectly by never having any.
Liberals doing somersaults of joy over GOP hypocrisy proudly project an air of moral superiority. But why do they assume that standardless self-indulgence is a higher moral state than “hypocrisy”? Would Obama be a better person if he smoked then encouraged children to do the same? Would that make him more “honest”?
No serious moral philosopher has ever considered shameless but non-hypocritical sinning to be a higher moral state than hypocrisy. Aristotle called the former group “scoundrels” and considered them more dangerous to the commonweal than the hypocritically “incontinent.”
“The self-indulgent man,” he wrote, “is not apt to repent; for he stands by his choice; but the incontinent man is likely to repent…the self-indulgent man is incurable and the incontinent man curable; for wickedness is like a disease such as dropsy or consumption, while incontinence is like epilepsy; the former is a permanent badness, the latter an intermittent badness.”
The incontinent man, he continued, is like a “city which passes all the right decrees and has good laws” but fails to put them to use, whereas the licentious man is like a city which passes “wicked laws and puts them to use.”
If the GOP solves its “family values branding problem” by abandoning family values and cooperating with the Dems in the construction of that wicked city, it will deserve a permanent vacation.
About the Author
George Neumayr, a contributing editor to The American Spectator, is co-author, with Phyllis Schlafly, of the new book, No Higher Power: Obama’s War on Religious Freedom.
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Appleby| 6.25.09 @ 7:05AM
Ho hum, another middle aged man who cannot keep his pants zipped up. One more John who stumbles and mumbles but only stops whoring when caught by the press.
Is it absolutely impossible for any man over 40 to be faithful to his wife anymore? My father (God rest his soul) was faithful to my mother for 62 years. Todays hippie scum drop their pants at the flash of a big pair of boobies, it seems.
If there are any men here who can explain why this is true, please chime in and explain.
KyMouse| 6.25.09 @ 7:18AM
I noted after "Sympathy for the Devil" that I think feeling gleeful over another person's failure is evidence of real evil in the human heart, because animals (as far as I can tell) don't do it. One animal may take advantage of another's loss, such as luring away a mate or snatching up a piece of fallen food, but the victor doesn't relish its opponent's failure. It takes a human being to do that. And yes, I'm guilty of it myself.
lynnrockets | 6.25.09 @ 7:46AM
Suspicions confirmed. Mark Sanford was traveling with his mistress. We can now update our list of Republican “Family Values” adulterers.
Ronald Reagan, Newt Gingrich, John McCain, David Vitter, Mark Foley, Larry Craig, Rudolph Giuliani, Ted Haggard, Bob Allen, Glenn Murphy, Jr., John Ensign, Sarah Palin (maybe) and Mark Sanford.
Batting next for the Republicans, Mittwit Romney.
SOUTH CAROLINE
(sung to the Neil Diamond song “Sweet Caroline”)
Where he began, we can’t begin to know where
But we do know that something’s wrong
Does Sanford drink?
Is this guy dumb or dumber?
Will Mark next fly off to Hong Kong?
Vans, minivans, roams about
Losing me, losing you
South Caroline
Why did Sanford leave the hood?
He should resign, that would do your state some good
Why, oh why?
Is he all-right, is the guv’nor so lonely?
Where will he next wander off to?
Maybe Frankfurt?
Frankfurt or maybe Boulder?
Not Pennsylvania Avenue
Done, he’s now done, petered out
He should be, in the zoo
South Caroline
Is Sanford misunderstood?
He should resign, that would do your state some good
(musical interlude)
South Caroline
Why did Sanford leave the hood?
South Caroline
Is Sanford misunderstood?
WilliamInWien| 6.25.09 @ 7:56AM
Sanford broke the "trust" between himself and the people who elected him based on what they thought he stood for. Obviously, he broke the trust that is supposed to exist and be the basis for a successful marriage. Were he a Democrat, it would be less of an issue. Be that as it may, Gov. Sanford should consider resigning or at a minimum, complete his term and fade away. I wonder how he thought he could embark on international travel, go through passport controls and never be discovered unless this was his way of making his situation public.
Ryan| 6.25.09 @ 8:28AM
The more I look at it, the more I see that there look to be two types of high-profile politicians. The ones in adultery, and the ones who got caught.
It's my understanding that this behaviour is epidemic among the beltway, and everyone probably holds each other in check because everyone is "doing it."
diamon| 6.25.09 @ 8:28AM
This is not a sad day nor should anyone feel anxiety regarding this former 2012 contender.
In fact it's a very good thing that this pretender of a contender was defrocked.
Now let's hear from the Republican establishment and what they think about this deeply flawed individual, and what it means for the party. Will anybody ask him to go away?
Tim| 6.25.09 @ 8:29AM
Let me reiterate:
Pondering the state of the GOP in mid 2009 is akin to Charlton Heston's final scene in Planet of The Apes:
"...we finally really did it. [screaming] YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! OH, DAMN YOU! GODDAMN YOU ALL TO HELL! (camera pans to reveal the half-destroyed Statue of Liberty sticking out of the sand) "
We can't go any lower...right?
crabbyapple mick lee| 6.25.09 @ 8:35AM
One would think, as one pol after another gets caught diddling around, that others down the line would get the message that such diddling exposes them to real political and personal hazard. But they don't. Somehow the answers that 1.) the sex was "sooooooo good" and 2.) "the powerful think they are insulated” don't cut it.
How many votes and seats did it cost the Republican Party when Sen. Craig was arrested playing footie in the airport restroom? How many good "family values" men and women in the party have been laughed at by their co-workers at the office? How many young Republicans learn that professing no standard is better than subscribing to any standard?
The Lord may have mercy on Sanford; but the Republican Party should not. No "excuses", pleas for "understanding", or wilting before charges of "self-righteousness". The Democrats can have Sanford. The Republican Party should cast him into the outer darkness. He did worse than let it down.
Eric Damon| 6.25.09 @ 8:43AM
Lynn Rockets, I don't think you want to get into a list of Democrats who have been caught with their pants down do you? Take James McGreevey, the famed "gay American"; Gary Hart who got caught with his mistress while on the campaign trail; John Kennedy who screwed around on his wife at every opportunity; John Kerry, who is currently on his second rich wife; Eliot Spitzer, who got caught with his own prostitute problems; Ted Kennedy, who is also working on his second...or is it third...wife; and finally Bill Clinton...no explaination needed. And unlike you, I will keep my short list to people who actually got caught and will not throw out names based on discredited rumors.
The writer obviously had you in mind here, as the article focuses on how people like yourself seem to only see adultery as wrong when it is a Republican caught in it, because the Republicans have standards. Obviously the Democrats have no standards, which is why the philandering John Edwards still has a strong political following on the left, and even after he got caught cheating on his terminally ill wife his political career has not been declared DOA by his supporters. Life must be really good when you don't have any standards to live up to, huh?
Tim| 6.25.09 @ 8:44AM
I suppose, were I cartoonist, that would be a statue of Reagan sticking out of the beach.
Roy| 6.25.09 @ 8:44AM
"But why do they assume that standardless self-indulgence is a higher moral state than "hypocrisy"? "
Good question. Another question: Why do we let them get away with it?
Whatever we do about Sanford, any Democrat, in any way, under any circumstances, anywhere, ever, who brings it up should instantly be kicked in the teeth with the name Ted Kennedy.
S.L. Toddard| 6.25.09 @ 8:49AM
It's a shame. Apart from Ron Paul, Sanford was the only Republican to hold any major office in the last couple decades that showed signs of actually being a conservative.
Since titillating gossip-mongering is all that our mainstream "journalists" are good for, this personal moral failing will be exploited to the maximum and will be Sanford's end.
There's a reason why decent men do not usually run for office. The press allows, encourages and is regularly complicit in gross abuses of power, so crooks, scoundrels and charlatans need not fear our "journalists" - indeed in them they find ready allies. But they will eviscerate a man for a moral failing that is titillating enough to sell papers, and in their tireless searching for these things they deprive a man of his private family life, so only degenerate criminals who lust for power and care so little about their family life that they will throw it to the wolves of the press need apply.
And that's who we get.
S.L. Toddard| 6.25.09 @ 8:50AM
"Sanford broke the "trust" between himself and the people who elected him"
Did they elect him to be governor or to be a husband?
Ed Moran| 6.25.09 @ 9:20AM
Wonder why the responders to this article gloss over Neumayr's distinction gleaned from Aristotle: "No serious moral philosopher has ever considered shameless but non-hypocritical sinning to be a higher moral state than hypocrisy. Aristotle called the former group "scoundrels" and considered them more dangerous to the commonweal than the hypocritically "incontinent."
"The self-indulgent man," he wrote, "is not apt to repent; for he stands by his choice; but the incontinent man is likely to repent…the self-indulgent man is incurable and the incontinent man curable; for wickedness is like a disease such as dropsy or consumption, while incontinence is like epilepsy; the former is a permanent badness, the latter an intermittent badness."
Maybe this distinction offers a telling commentary on those of the secular persuasion who love to bash the fallen while failing to realize the damage such consequences always have on human beings either Democratic or Republican regardless of the liberal press spin or the self-righteous' inability to identify with the sinner.
Thank you Mr. Neumayr for adding an oft forgotten classical distinction to what otherwise might have been the 'ad hominem' bash and counter-bash.
Seapuss| 6.25.09 @ 9:48AM
The normal and appropriate response to immorality is this: "Love the sinner; hate the sin." But Democrats seem to turn this on its head when it comes to family values and Republicans who fail to live up to them. In such cases, Democrats appear to embrace this maxim: "Hate the sinner; love the sin."
Truth to Power| 6.25.09 @ 10:11AM
"Did they elect him to be governor or to be a husband?"
If Governor Sanford can't be faithful to his wife and children, he probably won't be faithful to people he doesn't even know. I am not making an argument for impeachment but if he resigned I wouldn't complain and I wouldn't vote for him in the next primary. He should resign and try to recover what is left of his family and dignity. It is always a poor bet to elect people of known bad character hoping that they will be good in some other aspect of their life. I am not arguing for perfection but cheating on your family is a long way from perfection.
In the vein of liberal hypocrisy, Al Gore should be seen for what he is. He tells the world that climate change is the most important moral issue of our time and then uses energy like a glutton. His house is an energy pig and he flies all around the world in private jets. At the same time he has made tens of millions of dollars on cap and tax frauds. At least his son does his drug deals in a hybrid.
How many other examples of liberals not living their stated values can we find? Aren't civil rights an important value to liberals? Can you remember their response to Waco, or having political hacks going through their political enemies raw FBI files? Silence! Where do you find people shouting down their political opponents but at the left wing universities? Who constantly try to pass speech laws? What was the response to a Democrat using their position in the Ohio state government to try to ruin a private citizen (Joe the Plumber)? They felt sorry for the perpetrator who misused her public trust. They really don't look like they care about civil rights unless it is for their friends. Their concern for terrorist's rights is really disconcerting.
I tire of this but I am confident that you could demonstrate that the only care they have is for raw political power to be used on their neighbors.
S.L. Toddard| 6.25.09 @ 10:50AM
"If Governor Sanford can't be faithful to his wife and children, he probably won't be faithful to people he doesn't even know."
Well, we *know* he wasn't faithful to his wife. So tell us: How was Governor Sanford "unfaithful" to his constituents in his many years of service to them?
dcd| 6.25.09 @ 10:52AM
A tawdry affair may be tedious, but an inept coverup is always entertaining.
Trotter| 6.25.09 @ 10:58AM
"So tell us: How was Governor Sanford "unfaithful" to his constituents in his many years of service to them? "
I'm thinking that going AWOL while on the job counts, duh.
L. Ron Hubbard| 6.25.09 @ 11:28AM
I can't understand why every thinks that Dems are held to such different standards. When Bill Clinton was caught there was a huge lynching mob right after him. The only thing I think the Reps get blamed for is that they DO run on a family morals platform and it undercuts their whole agenda, nay the whole reason they are running when they are caught with mistresses, or pages.
You can't say that they are being treated unfairly compared to their Dem counterpart because they aren't running on the same issues and their constituents don't care about the same things as those in Rep states. It's also rediculous to compare cigarettes with the likes of marriage vows. One is supposed to be so sacred that the Reps are trying to keep it away from the gays and the other is obviously free to everyone. The two are not synonimous and can't be compared on ANY level. Hypocritical for Obama to sponsor a bill against smoking maybe... but if it calls for him to not smoke in bars, restaurants, or other places where the public resides I'm sure he'll be the first to comply.
WilliamInWien| 6.25.09 @ 11:39AM
"breaking the trust" is based on the belief that you have voted for a person with whom you can identify across a spectrum of values. I, for one, look at the entirety of the candidate before casting my vote. Then again, I have voted against a person who does not share the majority of my values. I guess leaving the state, the country, without any notification to the people who would have to make a decision, given his unknown where-abouts, conveys a degree of "trust" that they will do the right thing in his absence. I thought it was the governor who declared a state of emergency, called out the National Guard, etc.
Anthony| 6.25.09 @ 11:55AM
Another hack politician who manages to disappoint big time. Funny how these "leaders", who want us to follow them, can't seem to keep their own lives under control. Of course, being part of the elite ruling class, in the back of their minds, there are two different standards of conduct, one for them and one for us. Of course, Republicans, like this fool, are never treated by the media the way they treat Dems. So once again, we plebes have to take another round house to the chin because one of our "leaders" screwed up again. Frankly, I've had it with the whole damn bunch of these elitist clowns, Ds and Rs.
Please Gov. Palin, come rescue us from these weaklings and hypocrites.
So long Gov. Sanford, don't let the door hit you in your most sensitive spot. Now, in order to rescue your pathetic political career, you'll have to become a Democrat, then all will be forgiven.
Palin 2012.
ds80| 6.25.09 @ 12:13PM
Moral turpitude:
Adultery (Sanford, Ensign, Spitzer, Clinton, ... )
Gloating over it (lynnrockets)
Gill O’Teen ✝✡| 6.25.09 @ 12:18PM
These words are found in the NEW TESTAMENT:
John 8:3-11 (New International Version)
The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" "No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."
Nonetheless, any man who cannot keep his promise to the Mother of his children, cannot be trusted.
S.L. Toddard| 6.25.09 @ 12:53PM
"Nonetheless, any man who cannot keep his promise to the Mother of his children, cannot be trusted"
...by the mother of his childrem, sure. Are you saying that an adulterer cannot be an effective leader? How does that particular sin disqualify someone from being a good president? How is it any of your business?
Puritanism is alive and well.
Bill Carson| 6.25.09 @ 12:57PM
Sanford really makes me mad. I knew nothing at all about the guy. Now I, and the rest of world, know everything. The Democrats get to jump with glee over this. Why wouldn't that loser simply step up to the microphone and say: "I'm resigning the office of governor for personal reasons." Then he wouldn't have kicked the Republican Party so hard in the teeth. What an unbelievably selfish loser!
John II| 6.25.09 @ 1:41PM
Gill's citation of John 8 is stunningly dramatized in De Mille's 1927 silent epic "King of Kings." The Christ figure (played by H.B. Warner) is depicted as quietly scrawling on the ground the particular sins of each of the Pharisees, so that each, one at a time and wide-eyed at the private revelation, drops his stone and walks off.
Aristotle's remarks on hypocrisy seem true enough, and they bring to mind Bernanos' famous dictum that a democracy can no more dispense with hypocrisy than a dictatorship can do without cynicism. But Christ himself was pretty rough on the vice, and elsewhere (in the Politics) Aristotle also says that, whereas the bad man can be a good citizen, he cannot be a good leader.
Whatever Mr. Sanford chooses to do, he really has only one way to recover his personal honor: resignation.
lynnrockets | 6.25.09 @ 2:01PM
I just cannot help myself. The G.O.P. provides so much good material.
PO’ BOY
(sung to the Buddy Holly song “Oh, Boy”)
All of Mark’s love
All of his kissin’
Big romance while Sanford was missin’
Po’ boy, adultery
Po’ boy, the world can see
Sanford must leave his seat
All of Mark’s life
He been a waitin’
Preachin’ them politics of hatin’
Po’ boy, down in S.C.
Po’ boy, now he can see
No more Presidency
Lots of tears from eyes that are ballin’
Credibility is a fallin’
A little bit a-lovin’ makes everything right
Mark’s sure to call Evita tonight
All of mark’s love
All of his kissin’
Big romance while Sanford was missin’
Po’ boy, adultery
Po’ boy, the world can see
Sanford must leave his seat
Dumb-dee-dumb-dumb
Po’ boy
Dumb-dee-dumb-dumb
Po’ boy
(musical interlude)
Sanford’s good wife
Won’t be a matin’
Mark will take to maturbatin’
Po’ boy, K-Y Jelly
Po’ boy, watchin’ telly
Sanford will be lonely
Scars appeared and his future is fallin’
He can hear Fox News a callin’
A little elbow rubbin’ makes everything right
Mark’s gonna be on Glenn Beck tonight
All of Mark’s love
All of his kissin’
We’re laughin’ so hard that we’re pissin’
Po’ boy, laugh till we pee
Po, boy, the world can see
There’s no more G.O.P.
palinrox| 6.25.09 @ 2:34PM
No condoning what Sanford did at all, but I think we can all assume if there will NEVER be any negative publicity or scandals reported on anyone on the Left, not by this media, NEVER. The impression will always be the republicans are evil and hypocritical... dems will always come out smelling like a rose. even though we all KNOW this cant possibly b true..
hello? john kennedy? bill clinton? john edwards?
Tim| 6.25.09 @ 3:04PM
In Europe adultery is not only condoned:it's expected. I'm not endorsing the view but it is an interesting contrast. They do democracy pretty well there.
Truth to Power| 6.25.09 @ 3:31PM
"Well, we *know* he wasn't faithful to his wife. So tell us: How was Governor Sanford "unfaithful" to his constituents in his many years of service to them? "
It is the nature of a representative democracy that we will not know all of how a representative does his job. That makes it very important that we elect people of high character. Governor Sanford has flunked that test. A day or so ago I liked him and today I think he should resign. He has demonstrated that he would sell out his family for a pretty face. What am I to him? I don't want him to suffer puritan punishments for adultery, I just don't want to vote for him in the near future.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡| 6.25.09 @ 3:46PM
S.L. Toddard, adulterers think with their reproductive organs and not with their brains. That makes them ineffective leaders. Recall that this bozo deserted his job in order to play house with the other woman. It became my business, and yours, when this jerk took an oath to protect and defend the United States Constitution.
Old Texican| 6.25.09 @ 4:43PM
I just hope she is great stuff!
Yech!
S.L. Toddard| 6.25.09 @ 6:07PM
"It is the nature of a representative democracy that we will not know all of how a representative does his job."
It is the nature that we not *need* to know in order for it to function, but we have an open government in which the votes and motions and programs etc advocated by a representative are entirely public. So, how was Governor Sanford "unfaithful" to his constituents in his many years of service to them? Was he two-timing them? Do you think he was the governor of another state behind their backs?
Old Texican| 6.25.09 @ 6:37PM
Toddard
Just shut the furk up!
...The poor basserd just ended his career.
Go dig fly larvae and enjoy dinner.
Periwinkel| 6.25.09 @ 6:39PM
S.L., if you read these two articles you would know that when the Governor of South Carolina leaves the state or is "out of pocket", he must inform the Lt Governor. Mark Sanford, in addition to being unfaithful to his wife, broke the law of his state. He did let down the people of South Carolina.
Besides that, he is stupid. His wife is the heiress of the Skil Saw fortune. I guess he turned out to be the real tool.
Truth to Power| 6.25.09 @ 8:05PM
Fine. Lets examine Governor Sanford's official affairs very closely. I believe we'll find a bunch of unnecessary trips to Argentina. His wife would notice private trips so naturally it would be nice if he could gin up some "official" trips to have s0me recreational time with his new sweetie. Did he take security? Oops. He was using government money to have a girl friend. Now it is our business. What other corruption lurks? That is the trouble with voting for people with bad character.
John II| 6.25.09 @ 10:16PM
Toddard! What are you doing on this thread?! The topic isn't foreign policy and the Ron Paul / Pat Buchanan gig that we should cover the US of A with an impenetrable electronic bubble and let the rest of the world go to hell in a handbasket while we bask in perfect security. We're not talking science fiction here, Toddard. We're talking the Americano way!
To separate politics from morality is perhaps the most fundamental way in which the Left dips into the abyss. You are not a conservative if you think there is no relation between Sanford's politics and his moral disposition.
So! It's all clear to me now. All your blathering about evil Bush idealistic warmongering kick-ass machoism is inspired not by Russell Kirk but by Antonio Gramsci. You are a (yuck) de facto leftist ideologue. You are a child of your times. You . . . you . . . you . . . well, I hate to be so blunt, but you hate John Wayne. What else is there to say? And all this time I was assuming your good intentions. I am a fool and a naif--even at age 65, ferchrissake.
Listen to the Old Texican, Toddard. There is wisdom in his metaphors. I am flummoxed. I pass on.
Larry | 6.26.09 @ 11:07AM
I saw her boobies and I liked it!
Seems like most politicians today have the mentalilty of the waterboy. KEEP IT IN YOUR PANTS! Not difficult.
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Richard Baker| 6.28.09 @ 10:33AM
Remember the John Adams comment about the connection between morality and our Constitutional system? As we forget why this system was founded, we will destroy ourselves with hedonism.
Yve Viands| 8.27.09 @ 3:36AM
Can we have a list of Left wing adulterers please? Or at least the list of, I would say hypocrites, but isn't evil do'er's a better description, starting with the liberal media? And I think that is the definition I once gave about how to describe being covered by the grace of God, and being an adulterer that will not be allowed in heaven....you can commit adultery and realize at some point in time how wrong you were and repent of it, but an adulterer is someone that does it and has no intent to repent, they think they are entitled and will continue to take what they think they deserve, no matter how badly it affects those around them. Kind of like Satan who thinks he is entitled to take over the heavenly throne.
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