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A Trillion Dollars in Incompetence

The Kennedy health care bill is out of its mind and out of control.

Bonaparte famously said to "never ascribe to malice that which can adequately be explained by incompetence."

Thus stands the Kennedy health care bill, placeholder for the hard left dream of a government takeover of the American health system. The bill is a taxpayer-supported monument to the lethal stupidity of this statist objective that will leave Americans with fewer choices, more government control over medical decisions, higher taxes, and a smaller private health insurance market (mostly union health plans paid for by taxes on the health benefits of non-union workers) that punishes efforts to reward healthy behavior.

Over ten years: 16 million more people with new insurance, 23 million forced into public plans. A trillion dollars at least. By way of comparison, from 1997 to 2006 the number of people with private health insurance grew by 5.4 million, while Medicaid and SCHIP coverage grew by 13 million for a total of 18.4 million. Total cost to the government: $40 billion. Total health care spending over that time period increased by one trillion. Meanwhile, most of the public health care coverage increase during that time -- 60 percent according to a Harvard University study -- displaced private health insurance coverage.

Could the Kennedy bill be any more inefficient at using taxpayer dollars to subsidize misshapen forms of health care coverage? Of course it could. And it is.

Yesterday President Obama told the American Medical Association that "a big part of what led General Motors and Chrysler into trouble were the huge costs they racked up providing health care for their workers -- costs that made them less profitable and less competitive with automakers around the world."

"If we do not fix our health care system America may go the way of GM -- paying more, getting less, and going broke."

Which is why Section 133 of the Kennedy bill grandfathers in every union-negotiated health plan that apes union health plans for workers and prohibits companies from transferring workers into the public "option."

Worried about the cost of retiree health benefits? No problem. "There is established in the Treasury of the United States a trust fund to be known as the Retiree Reserve Trust Fund that shall consist of such amounts as may be appropriated or credited to the Trust Fund as provided for in this subsection to enable the Secretary to carry out the program under this section. Such amounts shall remain available until expended." ("Such amounts" is Washingtonspeak for bottomless pit.) It pays for insurance benefits and 80 percent of claims from $15,000 to $90,000 for all retirees (ages 54-64). Initial cost of this "trust fund": $10 billion.

The Kennedy bill pays for $1 trillion in ineptitude in four ways.

First, it borrows. But who's counting or keeping track?

Second, it creates "Gateways" that are supposed to create groups of purchasers to reduce the cost of insurance. In fact, since insurance companies have already made it clear that they can provide guaranteed coverage without regard to the size of purchasing pools, why are such Gateways necessary? Because, as agents of the federal government, Gateways collect a tax on the insurance premiums of the young, healthy and health-conscious to subsidize the cost of insurance for those who now have no incentive to improve their health.

In fact, insurance plans that actually do a better job of controlling costs or keeping premiums low with better quality are punished under the Kennedy bill: "Any State or participating State shall assess a charge on health plans and health insurance issuer (with respect to health insurance coverage) if the actuarial risk of the enrollees of such plans or coverage for a year is less than the average actuarial risk of all enrollees in all plans or coverage in such State for such years."

Third, in order to subsidize the sort of health plans that broke the bank at GM, the Kennedy bill taxes the health benefits of others, particular those in self-insured corporations that are doing the most innovative things to improve quality and reduce costs.

Fourth, the Kennedy bill gives a Medical Advisory Council power to determine what new technologies and benefits can be covered and are introduced. It's the same technique Obama wants to use to curb the rate of growth in Medicare. John McCain suggested paying for his health care tax credit plan with Medicare savings. During the election, Obama said that "would mean fewer places to get care, and less freedom to choose your own doctors…. I don't think that's right."

Today, Obama would slash payments and choices to seniors -- mostly the sickest -- to help pay for GM-type health plans, retiree slush funds, and the mass relocation of middle-class Americans into a richer version of the Indian Health Service. On top of that, the Kennedy bill costs $1 trillion to "cover" 16 million new people in the process. By tossing 40 million out of private insurance no less. Not only is it not right. It's incompetent.

About the Author

Robert M. Goldberg is vice president of the Center for Medicine in the Public Interest and founder of Hands Off My H ealth, a grass roots health care empowerment network. His is new book, Tabloid Medicine: How the Internet is Being Used To Hijack Medical Science For Fear and Profit, was published last month by Kaplan.

Letter to the Editor View all comments (48) | Leave a comment

Robbins Mitchell| 6.16.09 @ 6:26AM

Well,that settles the issue for me....Nazi Joe's last big mistake definitely has terminal brain cancer....and evidently it is determined to metastasize throughout the body politic.

Robert Rosencrans| 6.16.09 @ 7:02AM

All you need know at this point is that Howard Dean, Ted Kennedy and Barack Obama, a schmoozing trio of organizing incompetents if there ever were one, keep promoting this plan as "non-profit."

Aside from the lies about not wanting to destroy the private plans, the plan makes no sense from many angles.

The worst part is that it will provide little in the way of health, much in the way of bureaucracy and corner the market on confusion.

The plan will be littered with incompetent hacks and few brain surgeons. There is no reason to pass this plan since most Americans are happy with their health plans.

Ironically, the seeds of this disaster go back to WWII when wages were controlled by the government. The only thing many businesses could offer to make up for government control of wages was insurance.

Whenever the government creates one force in the market, the after effects become predictable. Long term disaster.

Readen| 6.16.09 @ 7:52AM

Talk about shoving it down America's throat?!?! Is the health care industry perfect, no. Do we need to improve liability laws, yes. Will this plan do either? No. This is the most immoral item yet purposed under this administration because it does so under the guise of morality.

A morality for whom you ask, certainly not the doctors that will become indentured servants, the workers who will be forced into government health care once their companies drop theirs (it will happen), or companies that strive to create innovate medicines to save lives.

That being said, if you're happy with the way that social security and medicare have panned out by all means, support this plan.

Rand Revolution| 6.16.09 @ 7:53AM

Talk about shoving it down America's throat?!?! Is the health care industry perfect, no. Do we need to improve liability laws, yes. Will this plan do either? No. This is the most immoral item yet purposed under this administration because it does so under the guise of morality.

A morality for whom you ask, certainly not the doctors that will become indentured servants, the workers who will be forced into government health care once their companies drop theirs (it will happen), or companies that strive to create innovate medicines to save lives.

That being said, if you're happy with the way that social security and medicare have panned out by all means, support this plan.

Galen| 6.16.09 @ 8:03AM

Under the Kennedy Plan I will get hospice care.
"Soylent Green is People!"

Darin| 6.16.09 @ 8:39AM

The common example of "success" is the comparable plan in Massachusettes. However, look at the reality. It was projected to cost $250 billion. Actual cost will be at least a trillion. That's for one relatively small state. Whatever cost estimates are provided by Obama, unless they come from the Congressional Budget Office, multiply by a factor of 5 and you may be close. If the estimates come from the CBO, multiply by a factor of 2.5 for a likely more realistic estimate.

Obama is painting this as a "crisis," but that's nuts. If he really wants to address a crisis, he needs to give serious attention to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. THOSE programs are going to detonate within the next decade.

2Anglico| 6.16.09 @ 8:57AM

We're from the government and we just want to help you. Follow the sign with the arrow to the showers!

Son Of Sam| 6.16.09 @ 9:18AM

So sorry, but "malice" is EXACTLY what is intended here. Kennedy, Dean, Obama, Pelosi, Frank and Dodd are nothing more than power mad criminals who want to dictate how we conduct every last aspect of our lives, including how long WE will live, and what kind of medical help we will get, or even whether we "deserve" any. Does anybody believe that the likes of THEM will receive their care under this idiot scheme? Hell no: they'll have their private plan, just like they have their own retirement that's certainly not hooked to shell games like Social Security, and doesn't depend upon the free economy they're destroying or our 401ks that they want to steal from us.
Freedom for the elites and slavery for us

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JerseyJ| 6.16.09 @ 9:38AM

If anyone's interested in seceding from the Union, let me know. We'll all move to one State and end this madness.

My father took a recent trip to Russia and brought back photos of the way the political elite in Soviet Russia lived. Lavish "villas" and such. It seems to me our own ruling "elite" would like a taste of that life. Remember, the Soviet system wasn't bad for everyone ... just for the working class. The "few" lived pretty well thank you very much. Welcome to Amerika.

If you were one of the ones who wanted change, well you are damn sure getting it.

Jack| 6.16.09 @ 9:40AM

No way should Congress have a separate plan than the American people. If it is good enough for us, it is good enough for them.

Country Boy| 6.16.09 @ 10:06AM

I'm with Son of Sam. This music just keeps going around in a loop, one disaster after another. If there was any integrity in Washington, somebody would call for a hearing on something, e.g. Community Reinvestment Act // Barney Frank, Chrissy Dodd.

No, these dirtbag politicians have totally unchecked power, and they enjoy using it.

Chisco| 6.16.09 @ 11:11AM

I'm constrained to point out that were HE a patient under "Kennedy care", the namesake for this UNGODLY bill would be dead..........having not been ABLE to get the brain surgery he needed, and probably due to his AGE!!!

Jeremy Jester| 6.16.09 @ 11:24AM

Did anyone else notice the protection racket that was proposed in an AP news article by the "senior administration official...[which]... spoke on condition of anonymity to more freely discuss the president’s behind-the-scenes strategy." Reading between the lines, the President wants doctors to fall in line behind the proposed plan and if they do the government *may* offer protection from malpractice lawsuits.

Old Texican| 6.16.09 @ 11:40AM

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JeffT| 6.16.09 @ 11:46AM

Obama got it half right. What killed GM was not paying for health care for its "workers," that wouldn't break the bank. What killed GM was paying for health care for non-workers, those known as retirees. The management and the UAW must not have been checking the actuarial tables. If they had, they would have known people are living longer. Of course, one of the great things about the Democrat plan is that people will not be allowed to live longer. Once the Czar of Euthanasia takes over, we can just set an age when all people will cease "to be a burden" on other taxpayers. It's a beautiful thing. Richard Lamm would be so proud.

Sue| 6.16.09 @ 11:49AM

What would you expect from a drunken, murderous family "heir" thug. Everytime I hear his name, I say a prayer for Mary Jo Kopeckne. May she rest in peace! A looter, playboy who has the morals of a snake, and this Country is entrusting their medical care to him!! Now I know I've died - heaven is hell and hell is heaven? It's all turned upside down.

I remember watching his "speech" about the accident and realizing that evil does exist in this world and he embodied it at that moment in time. A moral person would have repented in private and slithered away to repent for the rest of his life. He slithered back to Congress where he has the adolation of an entire state! Talk about rehabilitation.

The Country is nuts for attaching anything, ANYTHING, to this self-serving, elitist mocking, high society drunk.

I remember when GHW Bush wanted to appoint a woman to a high government position; she had worked her way through college as a secretary and became successful in her chosen profession - lawyer. Mr. Kennedy had the nerve to "mock" her as not being of "society" because she worked as a "lowly" secretary. Of course, that's "sexretary" to him.

He's disgusting. And if we have socialized medicine I will go to my grave a lot quicker if I have to see "Kennedy Health Care" on my government provided "statement of benefits" letters.

Now ask me how I really feel about him!

Louis Jenkins| 6.16.09 @ 11:55AM

Let me understand that the Federal Government can run the medical insurance industry better than the privates? Since when has the government done anything better than private enterprise? This is yet another layer of contemptible paper pushing bureaucratic incompetent trash on top of the trash heap that is our ruling elites.

The headlines read that ABC and Charlie Gibson are going to base an evening newscast on the Health Insurance Crisis out of the White House later this month. I thought Limbaugh had gone over the edge when he re-named the news media as “Government Run” but he pegged them to the wall again! The news casts are nothing but situational comedy: “Everybody Loves Obama.” I, for one, am sick of the stench that masquerades as sound government policy.

The First Amendment of the Constitution states that there shall be “no abridgement of free speech, or freedom of the press…” but the press has joyfully allowed itself to be curtailed by our ‘freedom loving leaders’. They’re not just in bed with the Obama administration, they’re up to their arm pits. They march so closely to Obama’s backside that if he turned a corner it would break their smudged noses. The first approved medical procedure will be Obama assisted death by taxation on freedom loving income producing US citizens. The second will be the removal of the news media from Obama’s backside. Where has sanity gone?

Sue| 6.16.09 @ 12:32PM

Today's Wall Street: Medicare Rule on Paying for Oxygen Vexes Patients - this is the new rule: Medicare will pay suppliers at its prevailing rate for the first three years after a patient begins coverage. Suppliers are then required to continue providing oxygen services to patients for another two years, but at a sharply reduced payment rate. After that, patients are entitled to receive new equipment and Medicare will resume paying suppliers at the higher rate. The changes aimed at trimming costs for Medicare have created problems for some patients, who want to find a new source for their oxygen, perhaps because they want to move closer to family members ...."

Isn't this ridiculous! The second provider wouldn't even be able to cover his costs - the costs are loaded front-end. This isn't freedom; this is enslavement; enslavement to a bureauracy and politicians that promised something they had no way to deliver, and now, we're caught in the crosshairs. God help us if someone wanted to change "providers" because they weren't "providing!" I guess you just quit sucking air and DIE!

How can any American in their right mind want this for everyone? Isn't it bad enough already that it's for our grandparents and parents? It can't get better; it will only get worse; wake up and smell the coffee. It's YOUR medical care now they are coming after. They've already destroyed it for your grandparents and parents.

The monthly medicare premium is $96.40; a supplement costs around $150. Our seniors are paying $250 per month - out of pocket - on a maximum social security benefit of $2,000, 12.5%. Most Americans get around $1,200 per month or 21% of their income if SS is all they have. And this is what they get in return! They don't even have control over their oxygen needs.

THIS IS GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTHCARE AND IT'S COMING FOR YOU.

Frosty| 6.16.09 @ 12:37PM

This administration has shown that once it gets its tentacles inside you, it will not hesitate to use them as they see fit. As an example, fired CEO's from GM/Chrysler, forced loans from regulated banks to unqualified applicants under the guise of the invented right to affordable housing (which led to the current crisis that allows the government to grab an even larger part of the private sector), and the awarding of majority ownership of a car company to the employees union (who ever thought they would see that).

Taking over health care is essentially taking over your ENTIRE LIFE. This would be the end of freedom as we know it. Once they have that, they then have the ability to dictate or prohibit ANY BEHAVIOR that they can deem through any convoluted twist of logic, as being detrimental or potentially dangerous to your health, and therefore a danger to the financial stability of the Kennedy Healthcare Plan. Can you count on the government to be reasonable in their control of your healthcare? Ask the former owners of Chrysler Dealerships who had their livelihood taken from them.

This attempt at taking our freedom deserves the fight of our lives, because it may well depend on it.

Old Texican| 6.16.09 @ 1:30PM

Frosty
Well stated in a nutshell. Thank you.
One thing each of us can DO repeat DO...is to call your personal doctor/s and tell them you support them as free practitioners, and thank them for good care.
They will network hell out of our phonecalls among their fellows.

2 GUn, AZ| 6.16.09 @ 2:22PM

Let's see, the CBO est is only a trillion.

Obumma has a tax plan for 700 bil of it.

However, the CBO's ests over the years have been off by a factor of 3 to 7, so instead of there only being a shortfall of 300B, it really will be a shortfall of 3.3 to 7.3 trillion in the first 10 years.

This is almost as bad as the unfunded mandate in SS and Medicare.

Sue| 6.16.09 @ 2:40PM

Here's another true story of government provided health care. My mother-in-law needed bed rails which were provided by Medicare. After six months or so I was reviewing the benefits statement and discovered that Medicare was being charged $240 per month for two removable bed rails by a Medicare provider. I remember the total cost paid was over $1,200 when I discovered it. I called the provider and was told that Medicare would pay this amount indefinitely and what did I care if they paid it? I was appalled. I called the 1-800 number on the benefits statement and got the billing stopped. She had paid enough to purchase two or three sets of bed rails and if it had gone on, she was in bed for 8 years, Medicare would have paid out $24,000 for a set of bed rails! Yes, the company would have reaped a "huge, huge profit" and the taxpayer would have been, what's the word, "fleeced" enough to make 10,000 sweaters or so.

This is government run health care.

The real discussion should be the privatization of Medicare not socialization of everyone's care.

The $250 per month premiums plus the medi-gap deductible and the donut hole for prescription drugs leaves one to believe that the Medicare recipients would be better off with private insurance than government run insurance.

I think that by bringing the 65 plus age customers back into the private sector would benefit everyone more than adding everyone to the public sector.

The government could still pick up the tab for the six months end of life expenses and nursing home expenses through Medicaid and we would all be the better for it.

The young people would get an immediate tax reduction of 2.9% for the medicare tax (employer and employee portion) and we would be rid of government controlled medicine.

Dustoff| 6.16.09 @ 2:50PM

Give me the same damn health care as Kennedy get's for the rest of his life and only then will I think about it!

Joe | 6.16.09 @ 2:50PM

Does this take care of making sure illegals do not keep getting free care. Is it going to stop the fivious lawsuits. No it does not!!! Then we are not going to fix the problem. These are 2 of the biggest problems we have.

Marc Jeric| 6.16.09 @ 3:12PM

Some say that we need tort reform, to limit awards for the so-called malpractice suits. If we really want to knock off one trillion from the overall cost of health care let us just do what every other civilized nation does: loser in a suit must automatically pay all the costs of the defendant, direct and indirect. That would also cut down the efforts of our eco-nazis to kill our industries, not to mention the fact that about one million trial lawyer hyenas would be forced to look for useful work - say crushing stones, paving roads, painting houses, etc.

Todd| 6.16.09 @ 3:17PM

We as Americans are to blame for this mess. Obamaham has socalized the auto industry, the banking industry, and now we are going to let him socalize medicine? One word IMPEACHMENT!

Poverty amongst the rich| 6.16.09 @ 5:26PM

Time America spent some money on her own people. 40 Million destitute people living in America, was once the richest country on earth.

Having said that, it's time to take what you have and get out of America before it collapse totally.

jr| 6.16.09 @ 6:12PM

The American Medical Association booed the Messiah but he has yet to start the political blackmail against those losers. Stay tuned.

Richard Baker| 6.16.09 @ 6:43PM

The sad thing is that Ted is still living off of the national sorrow from the deaths of Jack and Bobby. That he is the most disreputable of the Kennedy family is without doubt. Add in the fact of his recent cancer and the politicians want to honor(?) him with one more piece of garbage in his long and drunken career in the Senate. From one group of thieves to one of their own, I guess.

Lisa T| 6.16.09 @ 8:39PM

I agree with many of the prior posts as to how dangerous this legislation will toward our citizenry. I want to take it a step further. Many of you have mentioned that care will be rationed by condition, age, gravity, technology and so forth. My next question is when and it is when the govnt. will dictate life style choices, e.g., weight, diet, exercise, smoking, drinking, candy, fat laden foods, fast food, stress (like what kind of job you have, e.g. nurse, md, air traffic controller, atty, astronaut, etc.), sexual activity (birth control and marital status), where you live and/or work (near a refinery, in a city or on a farm) and how much you drive or if you take public transit. You get my point. We are looking at something akin to 1984, Brave New World, Logan's Run and Solent Green if this despot and Kennedy get their way.

Curtis Rasmussen| 6.16.09 @ 9:03PM

Chappaquiddick only proves that turds float.

Howard| 6.16.09 @ 9:28PM

Teddy Kennedy has always been a fan of Socialized medicine. This will be a stealth way for him to achieve it, on his death bed. Kiss America goodbye!

Small Town Surgeon| 6.16.09 @ 10:40PM

Some random thoughts from someone whose livelihood and life are on the line in this topic.

There can be no meaningful Healthcare Reform until there is tort reform. I've got 2 simple ideas that make so much sense that they'll never be instituted.

1. Put a cap on non-economic damages (pain and suffering/punitive damages). We're not talking about removing all awarded damages, just that which can turn a verdict into a winning lottery ticket.

2. Put a limit on the percentage the attorneys can charge. Talent agents take 10% from their clients, let's bring the attorney's DOWN to 20%. In some states 40-50% is standard.

If anyone thinks US Govt healthcare is good, take a look at the VA or Indian Healthcare System. Or just think back to the Walter Reed scandal of a few years ago.

All the talk about "Quality Care" and "Patient Safety" and "Healthcare Grades" is a bunch of smoke, mirrors, buzzwords, and bureaucrats having to come up with new things for others to do so that their own jobs are justified. Most of the results actually have to do more with documentation skill than with medical skill and on what the actual outcomes are. I've also seen "Patient Safety Initiatives" create more or new problems than they solve. Deep Venous Thrombosis Prophylaxis: I've always done it, and had only had 2 in 6 yrs of practice (both also had 2 of 2 top prevention methods in place), now I'm basically forced into doing it a different way, and my bleeding rate and infection rate has gone up. Method to reduce medication errors seems to have led to more than it was preventing. Nationwide a new method to prevent "wromg site surgery" instituted, and the rate seems to have gone up. When I say these things I feel like I'm telling everyone the Emperor is naked, yet the reception I get from the powers that be around my hospital is that I was dressed in a KKK hood and robe.

In spite of all this, I am still very satisfied with what I do, and I couldn't imagine doing anything else. I know that the reimbursement will continue to go down (yes even before the current economic downturn our payments were going down), and government will get more involved, I'll keep on practicing as long as I can keep a roof over my head and my child support paid (I know, I know I fit the stereotype). I still remember a med school professor telling me that no government regulation can ever take away the fun of making a diagnosis, the thrill of seeing people improve, and the just plain fun of surgery.

C Johnson| 6.17.09 @ 12:05AM

State of AK is prime example of government health care failure: PHS/IHS and Native Health Services are immense examples of waste (an entire complex of artwork buildings, shamans, herbologists, etc) and abuse of services.
Statistics show both higher medical costs per person among native vs non-native alaskans receiving private treatment, and greater rates of FAS/FAE babies, self inflicted injury, accidents, tooth decay, smoking disorders, STD's, teen pregnancies etc among Natives. The Alaskan Native health status falls below that of all other population groups in Alaska. Do not support government provided health care. It does not work and lowers health standards.

In memory of Mary Jo| 6.17.09 @ 5:17AM

The Kennedy Health Care Bill?
It will be 40 years next month, since he left Mary Jo to sufficate to death.

He was IN CHARGE of her health care that night and put his political career FIRST.

ptson| 6.17.09 @ 9:18AM

So, the UAW Thugs will get "Cadillac" Health Care Coverage from the Obama Thugs, paid for by the theft of the money of the "secured" bondholders who are now being called "speculators." Then, when the Thugs hold up the tax payers, the UAW will keep their windfall, while the tax payer picks up the tab for the Cadillac health care benefits of the UAW and is forced into a rationed system. Wonder what name will be used to describe the tax payer then?
Not speculator! How about FOOL?

Dimmer| 6.17.09 @ 11:13AM

I'm near despair. How can 53% of the American people be so stupid. Is there a new world we can migrate to? At least our fore fathers could migrate to America from Europe.

AdolfObama| 6.17.09 @ 12:17PM

If you listened carefully enough to our liar-in chief you would see right through his very deceptive attempts to sell his socialized medicine program. He commented that he likes the socialized system and that it works very well in some countries. Once again he also told a story of his poor dying Grandmother but he changed the story from when he was interviewed by Time magazine before he was elected..."“I don’t know how much that hip replacement cost,” Mr. Obama said in the interview with David Leonhardt of The Times. “I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement, just because she’s my grandmother. Whether, sort of in the aggregate, society making those decisions to give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill is a sustainable model is a very difficult question.”
http://spectator.org/archives/2009/06/16/a-trillion-dollars-in-incompet
In other words, Obama is making the case for rationed care yet, he changed his story over time to talk to a different angle on his Grandma's story to try to sell his BS to the AMA. This guy is the greatest deceiver we have had as President in a very long time. In his own words he will stated his Government program would just be another option and he would let private health care systems compete. This is the greatest lie he is trying to sell as it is well known that no private company would be able to compete with ObamaCare as he can and will pour billions of tax payer money into this system and undercut the private industry. I cannot believe that most of America hasn't woken up from the dream yet and realized this guy will bankrupt this country.

Richard Baker| 6.17.09 @ 12:53PM

The truly sad thing is that, at least as far as I can find in history, Americans seem to be the only country where being successful is cause for intense gloom and the remedies seem to be to tear it down. However, leave me my present lifestyle.

nursing home exercise| 6.17.09 @ 2:57PM

Healthcare is a huge issue that needs addressed, but lets just make sure the solution isn't worse than the problem. We need reform, not government take-over.

Richard Baker| 6.17.09 @ 11:43PM

Dimmer:
Don't despair. Remember, Washington turned the Revolution around with his attack on Trenton against the Hessians. Things have been MUCH worse in the history of our country. Harry Truman said not to underestimate the American people. Hang in there. Non illegitimi carborundum!

janedoe| 6.23.09 @ 1:36PM

This is the first article I have read that actually tells the truth. When the Obama zombies wake up it is going to be a sad site in America. Healthcare reform is needed and it needs to start with taking the losers , and perfectly capable of working off the taxpayers payroll. A lso we need to stop paying for all of the illegals in this country. They get better healthcare than the tax paying citizens. The prisoners do too by the way. I work in the healthcare field and I see abuse of the system on a daily basis. all of the people that say these people get no healthcare need to come here. If you have no insurance you actually get a code on your chart that states they cannot bill you. No one gets turned away at the ER it is illegal to do so. Maybe we should stop paying for illegals to stay in nursing homes for years because their families do not claim them and then after the patient dies we fly their dead bodies back to their country because the family, who suddenly appears, wants it back there. We are already paying for people's healthcare, it comes out of the working man's paycheck every month. What happened to personal responsibility?? Take care of yourself and get a job. The taxpayers can't handle much more. We need a working person revolution. let the government run the country's healthcare, look at medicare and medicaid and x that by 300 m illion. We are looking at far more than a trillion dollar deficit my friends.
Not to mention the government will be dictating healcare workers salaries just like the car companies. with no cap on malpractice and government rationing care what doctor in their right mond would want to practice under those conditions. Anyway, As you can tell I am upset about this. I could go on and on but I will spare you.

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