The Current Crisis
The ACLU Talks Too Much
Picking a fight with the shellshocked veterans of World War I.
WASHINGTON — It was my old friend and mentor, Luigi Barzini, who asseverated: “Americans talk too much.” He was sitting in the elegant library of his home in Rome. The year was 1978, though I cannot recall the contemporary controversy that aroused him. Luigi’s point was that we were wrangling again fortissimo con brio, and he thought our jabbering was again obscuring careful thought. He was a great friend of America. He had been partly educated here. He wrote in both Italian and superb English. In fact, at the time he was finishing one of his many fine books, The Europeans. It contains a friendly chapter on the USA full of shrewd insights. He believed we often argued garrulously about things that were not worth arguing about.
A case is about to be tried in the Supreme Court that fits Luigi’s diagnosis. The American Civil Liberties Union filed a suit in 2001 demanding that a seven-foot cross erected in the California desert in 1934 commemorating sacrifices endured by our soldiers in World War I be taken down. At some point after 1934 the land on which the cross was erected became federally protected, and thus the cross became a fit issue for the ACLU’s squalling about the separation of church and state. The creation of this World War I monument was — get this! — part of a 1930s medical program to help World War I veterans recover from shellshock. Physicians treating them thought that their work in the desert heat would be therapeutic. In 2004 the Ninth U.S. Court of Appeals agreed with the ACLU, but veterans groups objected — thus the case’s journey to the Supreme Court.
Now it would seem to me that the cross is a historic monument that need not be subject to contemporary fashions in thought, to wit, the fashion of hunting down religious symbols and eliminating them from government property. The cross simply represents the feelings of soldiers from a bygone era. There are religious symbols on public display from the past elsewhere. For instance, there are religious symbols on the Supreme Court building. If I recall, I have seen a carving in the Court’s chamber of Moses receiving the Ten Commandments from God. There may even be a picture of God up there. Viewing the 1934 cross today might give curious Americans a sense of what our country was like back in those days before the ACLU was spreading goodwill around the country by harassing people of faith.
Yet that is not the way the battleaxes at the ACLU see it. One of its learned lawyers, Peter Eliasberg, told the Washington Times, “For us to choose the principal symbol of one religion that says Jesus is the Son of God and He is divine and say that is an appropriate way to reflect the sacrifice of people who don’t believe that…is excluding by its very nature.” Well, “we” did not choose the symbol. Veterans from what was once called the Great War did, apparently with the consent of their physicians. This is an interesting historic memorial that the ACLU would deny us.
Veterans groups that are opposing the removal of the cross disagree with Eliasberg. Their members argue that the cross represents the “Fallen Soldier Battle Cross.” That is a rifle and crossed bayonet that is driven into the ground to honor a fallen comrade. Will the ACLU oppose this too? Jim Sims, of the Military Order of the Purple Heart, told the Times the controversy is “about thousands of veteran memorials and monuments around the country. This is about the issue of honoring veterans.”
It is trendy in our noisy public discourse to see “the right” being accused of injecting religion into politics. Actually very often “the right” or more specifically “the Christian right” is merely defending settled manifestations of religion that go back decades in our history, occasionally centuries. As I see it the ACLU would have us rewrite American history, eliminating all references to God, the Bible, and other such artifacts. Of course, for people of faith these artifacts are reminders of faith. So maybe the ACLU could begin a campaign to disallow people of faith from lapsing into prayer in front of such reminders. Possibly the ACLU’s next campaign will be to eliminate religious symbols from public buildings, starting with the Supreme Court. As Luigi noticed, some Americanos are too disputatious.
About the Author
R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. is the founder and editor in chief of The American Spectator. He is the author of The Death of Liberalism, published by Thomas Nelson Inc. His previous books include the New York Times bestseller Boy Clinton: the Political Biography; The Impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton; The Liberal Crack-Up; The Conservative Crack-Up; Public Nuisances; The Future that Doesn’t Work: Social Democracy’s Failure in Britain; Madame Hillary: The Dark Road to the White House; The Clinton Crack-Up; and After the Hangover: The Conservatives’ Road to Recovery.
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The Bishop| 5.28.09 @ 7:07AM
It is a base retributive desire of mine to long to be an observer of the proceedings when these doyennes of the law make their final argument before the Ultimate Judge. But, then again, I also will be pleading for mercy when my case comes up. Still, the ACLU girls are just a wearisome tool of Satan.
Melvin| 5.28.09 @ 7:28AM
Sometimes I shake my head in disbelief that a minority of Americans in the generation that has preceded me..are complete and utter asses.
The ACLU has a extreme case of arrogance and diarrhea of the mouth which is a inherent social disease that many litigators acquire in their lifetime.
Hal g. P. Colebatch| 5.28.09 @ 8:25AM
I suppose they ACLU wish they had been around in France after World War I to ban crosses in war cemetaries - as mentioned in Kipling's:
" ... it was fair and level ground
about a carven stone,
With a stark sword brooding on the bosom of a cross
Where high and low are one ..."
Old Texican| 5.28.09 @ 8:35AM
Emmett,
The problem isn't the ACLU. The problem is that the "Left" in this country wants to embrace "THE LIE"...ANY LIE ANY TIME.
It seems that they want to define "truth" like the Soviet Union defined it. ie: what ever we want it to be...this week...this year...etc.
A writer over at The American Thinker said it well this morning.
peter | 1.11.10 @ 4:04AM
Throw you a bone ahah... Nice idea! Introduce softouch scissor for your beautiful garden life.
Slim| 5.28.09 @ 8:44AM
A discourse between Cap and Soc
Cap: Another fine mess Soc, what effort it must take to fine tune the sensibilites of our WW1 vets. The ACLU certainly is tenacious in the effort to remove all vesitages of religion, symbols, etal from our view.
Soc: Yep, it is a disgrace to see a Cross on Federal Land. Not a fit symbol for our society. We have the case, the court and the judges all set to completely eliminate these obnoxious symbols. After all, who wants to think there may be or could possibly be, any truth in the symbology. Besides that, the WW1 vets are almost gone, and good riddance.
Cap: Well, that is most unkind, not like your rhetorica at all. We, the USA Electorate, all thought you would be a kinder, gentler ruler. Not this most vindicative type. Take a strain, Soc, the day is not done yet.
end
NavyBrat| 5.28.09 @ 8:57AM
Leave it to the ACLU to completely ignore the historical context of the monument & the religion it represents. Also never mind the fact that this country is still a majority Christian country, & so therefore, by extension, are the veterans. How nice. Hey, ACLU, GET BENT!!!
Barbarian Heretic| 5.28.09 @ 9:12AM
Funny- isn't it? That a group founded ostensibly to protect freedoms has devolved into the modern equivalent of puritanical witch-hunters?
ccd| 5.28.09 @ 9:34AM
interesting that the author does not even attempt to defend the government erecting religious symbolism. The author's position is only that odd bits of history should be left in situ.
Gill O’Teen| 5.28.09 @ 9:56AM
The arrogant communist lovers un-yun was remarkably silent during last year’s presidential campaign when Missouri politicians established their barry obumah truth squad (the bots) which was a blatant attempt to suppress political speech. And that self-proclaimed experts of the Constitution do not know that the full phrasing of the First Amendment discussing Religion states “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF”, is at least ludicrous. My beloved wife likes to wear a necklace with a dangling Cross suspended from it. She also likes to wear Cross shaped earrings. I suspect many other people, both men and women, also do so. I reckon they will all be forced to leave these Ornaments at the security check point whenever they enter public property. It cost me plenty of obumah bucks to purchase a permit to carry a concealed weapon. I suppose this is all an attempt for tax-cheat timmy to raise revenue by requiring permits to carry an even more lethal instrument - a religious symbol. Maybe when obumassiah gets his army of community organizers fully staffed and better equipped than the military, their first assignment will be to remove every religious symbol over every grave in every National Cemetery. One of my sisters is buried in such a Graveyard because she was just an infant when she died and our Father was active duty Army stationed overseas at the time. A simple Cross marks her grave. She is surrounded by numerous identical Crosses and a few Stars of David marking the graves of brave men and women who sacrificed for us. Somehow I am comforted knowing that my baby sis is protected by this silent Army even today. They better keep their blinking hands off those plots of hallowed ground. Vampires are supposedly deathly afraid of The Cross. I don’t believe in coincidence. This case should be tossed out of court and these sorry jerks put out with the rest of the trash.
r2streu | 5.28.09 @ 9:58AM
Somebody tell those idiots at the ACLU that this is not a First Amendment issue. The First Amendment in no way restricts this sort of thing.
Valerie| 5.28.09 @ 9:59AM
Can't help but think of the scene in "An American Carol" where ACLU lawyers were portrayed as flesh-eating zombies. Appropriate depiction.
Tom Masles| 5.28.09 @ 10:40AM
Crosses and vampires. I never thought of that!
Now it all makes sense. ;0)
Old Texican| 5.28.09 @ 11:40AM
Gill O teen
Nice post!
That was your best Riff yet!
OK
Back to whacking the pin'ata: Sarah, Sarah, Sarah, Sarah, Sarah, Sarah! You go girl!
+++++++++++++++++ boo vampires! (those are as close to crosses as I can figure out how to make.)
Jack Hughes| 5.28.09 @ 11:48AM
Can't someone introduce that Matthews guy to Don Barzini or Sollozzo, or whoever convinced Luca Brasi to sleep with the fishes?
Alan Brooks| 5.28.09 @ 12:30PM
Luigi Barzini is no relation to Barzini, the don who was shot by the ex-con dressed as a policeman ticketing a car.
Son Of Sam | 5.28.09 @ 12:36PM
I would like to note -- for the record-- that I am not a Christian, and yet somehow I don't lose sleep at night knowing that crosses are setup on federal lands. If I did, wouldn't I have a problem with Arlington Cemetary? Part of the reason I don't is that federal lands belong to THE PEOPLE, most of whom happen to be Christians.
The fact is, the ACLU doesn't speak for the people, not even non-Christian people such as myself. Nor do they speak for the Constitution. They speak only for themselves. They're arrogant ObamaNazi scum who want to apply thought control across America, until our nation resembles a North Korean deathcamp and not the "land of the free".
stay strong until freedom dawns
Son Of Sam
http://samadamssos.bravehost.com
Gazinya| 5.28.09 @ 12:45PM
It is the ACLU that needs to be taken to court for religious discrimination and hate speech. If I were to hang a bottle of water on each arm of the structure would that make it 'just a place to hang water'. If I were to put a 'c' hook at the end of each arm of the sturcture and say this is a place to hang coats when I'm in the desert would that still make this structure religious?
Even the word "Cross" brings these revelers of hate out to shrill themselves. I would rule that the ACLU should pay a fine of $1Billion to the Veterens of Foriegn Wars for hate speech. Don't worry, The Obama would give it to them.
Even a crucifix is a depiction of an actual event. What makes it 'religious' is the same thought process that makes it 'non-religious'. Preception. Maybe the preception of the ACLU is the object that needs to be taken to court.
Al Adab| 5.28.09 @ 12:55PM
Gill, Texican:
Right on today. We may notice that the cross seems singled out among "religious symbols". What about a Buddah statue or a Crescent fixture? Would these recieve the same approbation as does the cross? Neuhaus was right when he said our modern idolaters sought "the naked public square". The great symbol of sacrifice is why we remember our veterans, living and dead.
Pingback| 5.28.09 @ 1:01PM
ACLU shut down by Obama administration: watchdog group holed up with automatic weapon links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Tim| 5.28.09 @ 1:09PM
"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Al Adab| 5.28.09 @ 1:11PM
Tim: Poignant. That about covers it.
Tim| 5.28.09 @ 1:15PM
"And though skies alter and empires melt,
This word shall still be true:
If we would have the horse of old,
Scour ye the horse anew.
I have a vision, and I know
The heathen shall return.
"They shall not come with warships,
They shall not waste with brands,
But books be all their eating,
And ink be on their hands.
-G.K. Chesterton, The Ballad of the White Horse.
NavyBrat| 5.28.09 @ 1:22PM
Gil & Tex. Right on, y'all. I concur. Gil, that was one of the best written posts I've read in a while.
Son of Sam. Sounds like you & I are kind of in the same boat. I'm not a Christian either, but I understand that this is a Christian nation (despite what ass clowns say in Turkey), as did my Dad, who was a Navy & Vietnam vet, & a Jew. Never offended him, or me. These ACLU schmucks need to get the hell over themselves.
Nick| 5.28.09 @ 1:55PM
ccd,
I believe Mr. Tyrrell mentioned that on the Supreme Court building is the scene of Moses being handed the Ten Comandments by God. Is this not "religious symbolism"?
Liberals are modern day vampires. They cower at the sight of a Crucifix and suck the blood out of society.
Satans Kingdom of USA| 5.28.09 @ 2:06PM
Sodom, Homosexuals, perverts.
And what opinion did Jesus have of the learned elders of Zion and their traditions?: "They answered (the Jews) and said unto Him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. . . If God were your Father, ye would love Me. . . Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell [you] the truth, ye believe Me not. Which of you convinceth Me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear [them] not, because ye are not of God" (John 8:39-47 my emphasis)
The Learned Elders of Zion, the rabbinical caste, whose heritage is traced back to the authorship of the bloody book of Deuteronomy, are acknowledged to exist. It is plain that the reported sentiment of Jesus is that they were worshipers of a "God" other than the one of love and forgiveness which He preached. In fact He defines the Judaic God to be the "father of lies", in other words - Satan.
Old Texican| 5.28.09 @ 2:08PM
Al Adab, Son of Sam,...ya'll...
Thanks Guys. I'm going to freak you out now, so get your guard up.
I have a lip reading exercize for you:
"God...if you are God...it is time to put your money where your mouth is. A guy named Jesus said His own Holy Spirit would SPEAK if we asked. OK.....If you truly exist....forgive me if I have offended you. I'm ready to do a 180 degree turn...if you really care, and whisper TRUTH to my mind.
PLEASE, YOUALL...DO NOT SAY THOSE WORDS UNLESS YOU ARE SERIOUS. Your whole lives are going to be turned upside down, and you are going to find yourselves grinning a lot EVERY DAY...for no apparent reason. (smile)
I have said these words a lots of times: "CHOOSE LIFE".
Gill O'Teen| 5.28.09 @ 2:42PM
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KyMouse| 5.28.09 @ 2:43PM
Dear Satans Kingdom of USA,
So sorry they didn't get the rabies vaccine to you in time.
ACLU| 5.28.09 @ 2:48PM
“HOMOSEXUALS BRAINWASHING OUR CHILDREN IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS!” reports Mass Resistance, a family oriented Lobby Group.
In an alarming expose’ of videos shown to Elementary School children, indoctrinating them into anal sex & vile lesbian conduct, Mass Resistance urges us all to speak out now and stop the homosexual activists from corrupting our youth.
Both the ACLU, whose leadership are all Jews and the Jewish-controlled Media, are promoting homosexuality, lesbianism, and all abnormal abominations - all of which are rotting away our once Christian nation.
As far as I am concerned, I think we have had enough of their wretched influence on our lives!
Now I wish for all of you to say a prayer to the Lord of Hosts to stop this outrage as you click Here (wait for download) to see & view how homosexuals and lesbians are indoctrinating elementary school children into their deviant sexual behaviour.
Please pray along with me, “Oh Lord - Protect Our Children & Our Nation
Against The Anti Christian Forces Surrounding Us!”
Bring back morality| 5.28.09 @ 2:58PM
Stop allowing your country to become Sodom and Gomera.
Homosexuals brainwashing our children in elementary schools
Extremely slick propaganda directed at the youngest of children! The videos below are from It's Elementary, a 78-minute feature film produced by homosexual activists. These are actual scenes from elementary schools in Massachusetts and New York. It's Elementary is meant to be a training video for homosexual activist teachers across the country. In addition, the film itself has been shown to schoolchildren in public schools in Massachusetts and elsewhere.
This is what is actually going on in more and more elementary schools across America. Watching this will really affect you! You will not believe what you are seeing.
Part 1: "Gay & Lesbian Pride" Day in Elementary Schools - Actual footage of teachers indoctrinating children that homosexuality is "healthy education." (Length: 8:59)
Part II: Role-playing in the third grade. (Length: 6:31)
Although It's Elementary was made over a decade ago, it's still a major training film for homosexual activists, is still being shown in schools across the country, and has become a standard feature at homosexual teachers' conferences. Ask yourself: How much further has that agenda reached since then? How many more young children are being desensitized to homosexuality in their young years by these sophisticated techniques? And more importantly, when are you going to get involved to do something about it?
(The entire video is available at
http://www.groundspark.org/films/elementary/index.html.)
Get involved -- (and get our email updates) by contacting MassResistance!
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Dave| 5.28.09 @ 3:12PM
ZIONISM DRUMMED INTO MY HEAD
I WAS BORN in 1950, two years after the State of Israel was declared a nation in 1948. I guess you could say that not only was I a “baby boomer,” but a “zionist boomer” as well.
My parents enrolled me in Sabbath school when I was 6 years old and so began my indoctrination into the holy grail of Zionism. It was crammed into my little Jewish head that Zionism’s raison d’etre was “all of the horrible Anti-Semitic attacks on us ‘innocent’ Jews & wasn’t it about time that we ‘innocent’ Jews had a homeland of our own?”
But having grown up Jewish, and constantly hearing Jews calling the Gentiles, “goyim,” and calling the Gentile women, “shiksas,” (from the Hebrew word “shaygitz,” an “unclean animal”), I knew that Jews were anything but “holy innocents.”
MY TRIP TO ISRAEL
IN 1992 I made aliyah to our wonderful “homeland,” the State of Israel. Even though I was at the time an Orthodox Christian, I still had not completely shed my Zionist indoctrination.
The first thing I said to my traveling companion when we walked out of the Tel Aviv Airport was, “This all reminds me of Southern California.” And as we wended our way through “the holy land,” I never retracted this first impression.
On our 3rd day, we visited the historic Wailing Wall in Jerusalem. It was very crowded as the Jewish Festival of Purim was fast approaching. Purim is a riotous holiday for religious Jews and apparently the Orthodox Jews were already in a riotous mood. (Religious Jews are commanded by the Talmud to get drunk during the days of Purim.)
I walked through the crowd at the Wailing Wall with my petition in hand to stick into one of the cracks in the wall when a crowd of Hasidic Jews started pushing me from behind. I felt as if I was struck by a hydrogen bomb. They were blabbering away in Yiddish and I, being in secular clothes & not donning a yarmulke, was no better to the Hasids than a “goy.”
“Hey! I yelled at them,” as they pushed their way past me, “don’t you people have any manners?” One of them, evidently thinking that I was a Gentile tourist, turned to me & said, “We don’t slow down for mumsers.” (”Mumser” means “bastard” in Yiddish.)
JEWS & ARABS
On our last day in “Zion,” my rental car broke down in an Arab village outside of Jerusalem. It was dusk and my lady traveling companion kept on saying, “The Arabs are going to kill us — the Arabs are going to kill us.” But I kept my cool.
I opened up the hood and propped it up to advertise that the car had broken down. About 5 minutes later, two young Arab boys in their early twenties walked over and said to me in English, “We are mechanics. We’ll fix your car.”
“How much will you charge?” I asked. “Nothing, we’ll fix it for free,” they replied. And indeed they did! We exchanged addresses and phone #’s and while driving out of the Arab village I said to my friend, “There’s got to be a way for Jews and Arabs to live together in peace … but Zionism seems to me to be the main obstacle.”
My lady friend, an arch-Zionist, answered, “It doesn’t matter that Jews and Arabs should live in peace. The only thing that matters is that we’ve got our homeland and we’ve got to do everything we can to keep it.”
Suddenly the phrase flashed through my mind, “The meek shall inherit the earth.” Reflecting on this, I knew that there was nothing meek about Zionists. From that day on, I understood just how wrong my Zionist friend really was…
Jade| 5.28.09 @ 3:24PM
As I see it the ACLU would have us rewrite American history, eliminating all references to God, the Bible, and other such artifacts. Of course, for people of faith these artifacts are reminders of faith. So maybe the ACLU could begin a campaign to disallow people of faith from lapsing into prayer in front of such reminders.
WHY are you allowing these people to destroy America. Why have you stayed asleep and have your government sell out your country to the higest bidder?.
Why have you allowed these people who are paid up members of Zionism run your country and claim it's a Democracy, you had a Republic now you have nothing.
98% of Americans have no voice in America, and America is run by 2% who every Congress Man and Woman is taking money to sell out the American people, and the Government is no mor than Israel Prostitute, and Israel is America's Pimp. Only you people can change that, and that means being pro active to ensure your Constitution is re instated. These people should have no powers over you to destroy your country.
Ensure Transparancy, to stop the bribery, do not vote for those who have been taking AIPAC money. They are planning to Break America.
They covered their tracks| 5.28.09 @ 3:58PM
Your Enemy is in your own backyard, by the time America wakes up, it will be too late.
The Bible says your Enemy is in your own household. Your are fighting the wrong enemy. While you are fighting the Arabs the Jews are wiping out your country, bankrupting it, and planning on Enslaving you, and put you out of your business so they can buy them 1 penny on the dollar, and your homes and factories, while they rob your social security monopolise your health care system.
They have done the same thing in other countries, America was their greatest prize.
It's like the Zionist said we won the first world war, it was about the profits, the Zionist Bankers gets to take over whole countries after a war. The Death of a Goy is treated as human sacrifice, the more that dies, and the more money they make though they never get their hands dirty. Goys are no more than Animals to them.
They get so greedy that people start to search on facts about them, and why they want the Holocaust should be a cover up no one allowed to speak about it, what have you to hide.
Only to discover they have killed far more people in this world than any othere people on earth, they are a Satanic people, spoken of in the Bible as the Synagogue of Satan, and false Jew of no jewish blood. In other words liars, Satan has managed to deceive the whole world, they are like the counterfiet money, like the dollar they print and give the world to take Oil, Gold, minerals, real substance for bits of paper, while they hold all the gold in the world these people are theives.
Christ tried to warn people about this, but they have even manipulated the bible, so while every one was going to the Christian Fundamentalist Churches, their Bank accounts was being raided, America was being ransacked, the troops are out of the country fighting over a war these people invented to Bankrupt your economy, and because of One world Order all banks was looted Europe wide. These people are theives that is why they Bribe Politicans to sell ovt America they say why care about those people worry about your own family. If they don't follow orders they are Killed.
While you are busy singing their praises, they have their hands in your pockets, robbing you in the Talmud it is fine to Steal from Goyms, not other Jews.
Tim| 5.28.09 @ 4:01PM
Why do you let these things go all "Springtime for Hitler"?
Peter McGrath| 5.28.09 @ 4:03PM
Mr. Tyrell's premise is somewhat flawed. His friend, Mr. Barzini, mused that we Americans "often argued garrulously about things that were not worth arguing about." Tyrell would seem to lump arguments over removal of the commemorative cross with such irrelevant"things."
I would posit that the legal battle over placement of this cross is at the center of the current cultural war. The ACLU cannot conscience the existence of such
an iconic symbol on public land for a specific reason. They argue that it's existence violates the establishment clause but, in fact, the ACLU's real motive is to remove all references to Christ from the ever-expanding public square (Mohammed, Buddha, Vishnu, fine, but NO CHRIST!) Why?
Christ is a liberator. A liberator from fear, from guilt, from sin, and from self. Because of Him, ours is a nation of truly free people. To the extent that we forget Him, His sacrifice and His triumph over death, we become slaves - again - to fear, guilt, sin, and the burden of self. In such a wretched state, our people slowly turn to BIG GOVERNMENT as the saviour, and our enslavement is complete.
We must support those who oppose the ACLU. This case IS a big deal. We are a blesssed people because we are a God-fearing people. When we let the ACLU obliterate our nation's religious heritage we lose our way as a people. God bless those who see it that way and are fighting this important legal skirmish.
len| 5.28.09 @ 4:22PM
Dave, what a man you are. You made this amazing non sequitir disparaging jews from the above article. Do you think much of yourself?
Marc Jeric| 5.28.09 @ 4:34PM
We must remember the origin of the ACLU (aka Anti-American Criminal Liberties Union). It was established in the 1930's as the legal arm of the Communist Party US. Then to hide its origin it was formally separated from the party and continued its work as an independent body. It has continued its nepharious work ever since in destroying this country and transforming it into a communist dictatorship. Justice Ginsburg was its General Counsel - you can see they are well on their way to a complete success what with Abu Hussein from Kenya in power. He is our Community Organizer-in-Chief, i.e., the Supreme Leader; well "community organization" in Russian means "soviet".
Old Texican| 5.28.09 @ 4:55PM
Israeli and Jewish friends
Please forgive these nutcases for hassling you. They certainly would not do so in my presence as I would kick their shriveled little arses.
Smile...Your Messiah comes.
Your adopted brother through Jesus
Satans Children| 5.28.09 @ 5:21PM
IT ALL STARTED with The Edict of Expulsion of 1290 AD. The Jews would have us believe that their expulsion from England by Edward I (reigned 1272-1307) was due to their money lending endeavors. The real reason was due to the Jews’ crime of blood ritual murders.
The Orthodox Christian historian of the 5th Century, Socrates Scholasticus, in his Ecclesiastical History, 7:16, recounts an incident about Jews killing a Christian child:
— “At a place near Antioch in Syria, the Jews, in derision of the Cross and those who put their trust in the Crucified One, seized a Christian boy, and having bound him to a cross they made, began to sneer at him. In a little while becoming so transported with fury, they scourged the child until he died under their hands.” —
Here are a few examples which led to the English expulsion of the Jews in 1290 AD:
1144 A.D. Norwich: A twelve year-old boy was crucified and his side pierced at the Jewish Passover. His body was found in a sack hidden in a tree. A converted Jew to Christianity named Theobald of Cambridge informed the authorities that the Jews took blood every year from a Christian child because they thought that only by so doing could they ever return to Palestine. The boy has ever since been known as St. William.
1160 A.D. Gloucester: The body of a child named Harold was found in the river with the wounds of crucifixion.
1255 A.D. Lincoln: A boy named Hugh was tortured and crucified by the Jews. The boy’s mother found the body in a well on the premises of a Jew named Jopin. 18 Jews were hanged for the crime by King Henry III.
1290 A.D. Oxford: The Patent Roll 18 Of Edward I, 21st June 1290 contains an order for the Gaol delivery of a Jew named Isaac de Pulet for the murder and blood letting of a Christian boy. Only one month after this, King Edward I issued his decree expelling the Jews from England.
(See Sources #1 Below )
OLIVER CROMWELL & THE BEHEADING OF KING CHARLES I IN 1649
FINANCED BY THE JEWS
JEWISH BANKERS FROM AMSTERDAM led by the Jewish financier and army contractor of Cromwell’s New Model Army, Fernandez Carvajal and assisted by Portuguese Ambassador De Souza, a Marano (secret Jew), saw an opportunity to exploit in the civil unrest led by Oliver Cromwell in 1643.
A stable Christian society of ancient traditions binding the Monarchy, Church, State, nobles and people into one solemn bond was disrupted by Calvin’s Protestant uprising. The Jews of Amsterdam exploited this civil unrest and made their move. They contacted Oliver Cromwell in a series of letters:
Cromwell To Ebenezer Pratt of the Mulheim Synagogue in Amsterdam,
16th June 1647:
— “In return for financial support will advocate admission of Jews to England: This however impossible while Charles living. Charles cannot be executed without trial, adequate grounds for which do not at present exist. Therefore advise that Charles be assassinated, but will have nothing to do with arrangements for procuring an assassin, though willing to help in his escape.” —
To Oliver Cromwell From Ebenezer Pratt, 12th July 1647:
— “Will grant financial aid as soon as Charles removed and Jews admitted. Assassination too dangerous. Charles shall be given opportunity to escape: His recapture will make trial and execution possible. The support will be liberal, but useless to discuss terms until trial commences.” —
Cromwell had carried out the orders of the Jewish financiers and beheaded, (yes, Cromwell and his Jewish sponsors must face Christ!), King Charles I on January 30 1649.
Beginning in 1655, Cromwell, through his alliance with the Jewish bankers of Amsterdam and specifically with Manasseh Ben Israel and his brother-in-law, David Abravanel Dormido, initiated the resettlement of the Jews in England.
(See Sources #2 Below )
JEWS GET THEIR CENTRAL BANK OF ENGLAND
WILLIAM STADHOLDER, a Dutch army careerist, was a handsome chap with money problems. The Jews saw another opportunity and through their influence arranged for William’s elevation to Captain General of the Dutch Forces. The next step up the ladder for William was his elevation by the Jews to the aristocratic title of William, Prince of Orange.
The Jews then arranged a meeting between William and Mary, the eldest daughter of the Duke of York. The Duke was only one place removed from becoming King of England. In 1677 Princess Mary of England married William Prince of Orange. To place William upon the throne of England it was necessary to get rid of both Charles II and the Duke of York who was slated to become James II of the Stuarts. It is important to note that none of the Stuarts would grant charter for an English national bank. That is why murder, civil war, and religious conflicts plagued their reigns by the Jewish bankers.
In 1685, King Charles II died and the Duke of York became King James II of England. In 1688 the Jews ordered William Prince of Orange to land in England at Torbay. Because of an ongoing Campaign of L’Infamie against King James II contrived by the Jews, he abdicated and fled to France. William of Orange and Mary were proclaimed King and Queen of England.
The new King William III soon got England involved in costly wars against Catholic France which put England deep into debt. Here was the Jewish bankers’ chance to collect. So King William, under orders from the Elders of Zion in Amsterdam, persuaded the British Treasury to borrow 1.25 million pounds sterling from the Jewish bankers who had helped him to the throne.
Since the state’s debts had risen dramatically, the government had no choice but to accept. But there were conditions attached: The names of the lenders were to be kept secret and that they be granted a Charter to establish a Central Bank of England. Parliament accepted and the Jewish bankers sunk their tentacles into Great Britain.
ENTER THE ROTHSCHILDS
MAYER AMSCHEL BAUER OPENED a money lending business on Judenstrasse (Jew Street) in Frankfurt Germany in 1750 and changed his name to Rothschild. Mayer Rothschild had five sons. The smartest of his sons, Nathan, was sent to London to establish a bank in 1806. Much of the initial funding for the new bank was tapped from the British East India
Historical facts| 5.28.09 @ 5:43PM
The History of Jewish Human Sacrifice
By
Willie Martin
At the dawn of civilization, the blood rite, in which human blood is drunk from the body of a still-living victim, was known to many tribes. However, only one people, that has never progressed beyond the Stone Age, has continued to practice the blood rite and ritual murder. This people are know to the world as Jews. Arnold Toynbee, a noted scholar, has called the Jews "a fossil people."
In so doing, he must have been aware of the fact that they still practice ritual murder and the drinking of human blood (especially Christian blood). As a scholar, he could not have failed to note the many attested incidents of this practice of the Jews, for hundreds of example of ritual murder by the Jews are cited in official Catholic books, in every European literature, and in the court records of all the European nations.
It is the official historian of the Jews, (Josef Kastein, in his History of the Jews, who gives the underlying reason for this barbaric custom. On page 173, he says, "According to the primeval Jewish view, the blood was the seat of the soul."
Thus it was not the heart which was the seat of the soul, according to the stone-age Jews, but the blood itself. They believed that by drinking the blood of a Christian victim who was perfect in every way, they could overcome their physical short comings and become as powerful as the intelligent civilized beings among whom they had formed their parasitic communities. Because of this belief, the Jews are known to have practiced drinking blood since they made their first appearance in history.
Jewish Murder Plan Against White Christians Exposed
The Murderous People: The Jews are under a terrible suspicion the world over, and for good reason. Anyone who does not know this, does not understand the Jewish problem. Anyone who merely see the Jews as "a tribe which secures its existence with exchange and old trousers, and whose uniforms are the long noses," is being misled. But anyone who knows the monstrous accusation which has been raised against the jews since the beginning of time, will view these people in a different light. He will begin to see not only a peculiar, strangely fascinating nation; but criminals, murderers, and devils in human form. He will be filled with holy anger and hatred against these people of Satan. (John 8:44)
The suspicion under which the Jews are held is murder. They are charged with enticing White Christian Children (and sometimes blacks to keep them under control - and if necessary they will run black children down in the streets with automobiles to show the blacks their power, and that the blacks had better mind their manners or the same will happen again and again. We all witnessed this a few years ago in New York city when the car of Rabbi Shneerson ran over a black child. And as usual the Jews bought off the blacks who were inciting the mobs against them; if they had been unsuccessful in this they would have had the blacks who dared not be controlled murdered) and at time White Christian adults, butchering them, and draining their blood. They are charged with mixing this blood into their masses (unleaven bread) and using it to practice superstitious magic. They are charged with torturing their victims, especially the children; and during this torture they shout threats, curses, and cast spells against non-Jews. This systematic murder has a special name, it is called,
Ritual Murder
The knowledge of Jewish ritual murder is thousands of years old. It is as old as the Jews themselves. Non-Jews have passed the knowledge of it from generation to generation, and it has been passed down to us thorough writings. It is known of throughout the nation. Knowledge of ritual murder can be found in even the most secluded rural villages. The grand-father told his grand children, who passed it on to his children, and his children's children, until we have inherited the knowledge today from them.
It is also befalling other nations. The accusation is loudly raised immediately, anywhere in te world, where a body is found which bears the marks of ritual murder. This accusation is raised only against the Jews. Hundreds and hundreds of nations, tribes, and races live on this earth, but no one ever thought to accuse them of the planned murdering of children, or to call them murderers. All nations have hurled this accusation only against the Jews.
And many great men have raised such an accusation. Martin Luther wrote in his book "Of The Jews And Their Lies:"
"They stabbed and pierced the body of the young boy Simon of Trent. They have also murdered other children...The sun never did shine on a more bloodthirsty and revengeful people as they who imagine to be the people of God, and who desire to and think they must murder and crush the heathen. Jesus Christ, the Almighty Preacher from Nazareth, spoke to the Jews: ? Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning..."
Angel| 5.28.09 @ 5:45PM
Daphne, you are a sick, wretched piece of human garbage. Your hatred consumes you. I would counsel professional help to heal your fevered brain, but your sickness rests within your soul and only Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior can help you. I will pray for you.
Al Adab| 5.28.09 @ 5:48PM
I resent these few who have so tarnished the debate and obscured the issue at hand. The diatribes above do nothing to help and reinforce the left's view of their opposition as a bunch of lunatics. How very sad to see such material in print. Freedom of speech like all others has its downside and I suppose we must tolerate it for the sake of Liberty. Let it be known however, that reason will triumph over vitriol.
Sheila| 5.28.09 @ 6:24PM
The ACLU defends the rights of 'some' people, certainly not those still in the womb, sad to say.
NavyBrat| 5.28.09 @ 7:29PM
What is with all of this anti Semetic bile? What does this have to do with the topic at hand? Oh, that's right, all Jews are lawyers & run the ACLU, right? The level of ignorace is commensurate with your level of hatred.
I wonder if all of you Jew haters cower in the corner of your rooms at night, waiting for the EVIL Mossad assasination teams to show up. Do you keep your moeny under the matress, since all the banks are "Jewish run?" Be afraid, Jew haters, be VERY afraid. Those evil Zionist boogeymen are going to get you (insert diabollical laugh here). It's sad to know that people like you call yourselves American. Hell, for a second, I thought I'd stumbled upon a site run by the Iranian Revolutionary Guards or the Klan. Glad to know that most of the regulars here recognize this crap for what it is, CRAP!
"They never open their mouths without subtracting from the sum of human knowledge."...Thomas Brackett Reed
John Navratil| 5.28.09 @ 8:52PM
Perhaps Luigi Barzini would appreciate my aphorism: We have become a nation of thin-skinned loud-mouths.
Sheila| 5.28.09 @ 9:18PM
Correction: LIBERALS are thin-skinned loud-mouths. And I'm friggin' sick of them.
Lew| 5.28.09 @ 10:06PM
ACLU & liberals in general stomp all over our 1st amendment rights without regard for our right to practice our beliefs as we chose.
Since when does erecting a cross compel citizens to attend Christian services? This is not England requiring membership in the Church of England, go to or don't go to church. Believe or disbelieve, a Bible in a classroom will not cause a liberal to burst into flames though the thought is amusing.
Lew| 5.28.09 @ 10:18PM
NavyBrat| 5.28.09 @ 7:29PM
What is with all of this anti Semetic bile?
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Good grief N.B., what rock did those creeps crawl out from under? Folks are keeping an eye on hate-filled, uneducated snakes like those so the rest of us can sleep nights. Keep your good posts coming, okay?
Cordially, AOC, U.S.N. (RET)
Jeff| 5.28.09 @ 10:49PM
While the ACLU does occasionally overstep it's bounds with regards to the seperation between church and state; as most likely in this case. The group also does alot to protect the right to religious EXPRESSION. So before you say basically anything resembling this "Both the ACLU, whose leadership are all Jews and the Jewish-controlled Media, are promoting homosexuality, lesbianism, and all abnormal abominations - all of which are rotting away our once Christian nation" remember that people doing thing you do not agree with does not make evil.
Sorry Marc Jeric,
The ACLU was not created during the 1930's as the legal arm of the Communist Party. Saying things does not make them true.
The group was actually formed in 1917 to defend the rights of those threatened with deportation, "consciencious objectors" and unions. Interestingly enough, in 1940 the group formally banned members of the Communist Party from joining the organization. Today the ACLU has over 500,000 members and its stated mission is to "to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to every person in this country by the Constitution and laws of the United States". On second thought, nevermind, sounds like a bunch of atheist, liberal, pussy talk. PALIN 12
Perky| 5.29.09 @ 12:09AM
Hey, Jeff--that's SEPARATION of Church and State; which of course doesn't exist except in the hollow wind tunnels of liberals' brains. Nice spelling, dummo.
Nick| 5.29.09 @ 12:18AM
Jeff,
You castigate Mr. Jeric for getting some facts wrong, then omit pertinent facts yourself. Nice try.
The people who created the ACLU (Anti-Christ Liars Union) were communists and socialists. Like there's a big differnce.
Roger Baldwin was a professed communist. He later rejected Stalin's communism. That is why they banned communists in 1940, Baldwin didn't want Stalin controling his organization. Felix Frankfurter was a founding member.
The ACLU doesn't care about liberty, they promote licentiousness.
Where was the ACLU when valedictorians couldn't say a prayer at high school graduations? Or when protesters couldn't say Rosaries outside abortion mills?
Nick| 5.29.09 @ 12:35AM
NavyBrat,
You mean you don't believe him/her/Satan? How can you not? He/she/Satan calls itself "Historical facts". Who could doubt someone with that moniker?
I treat these jackasses like the liberal trolls, I ignore them. They are craving attention, so I don't give it to them. Except sometimes, I give them a shot, without responding to them by name.
Deception & NWO by JEWS| 5.29.09 @ 9:44AM
Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
(1543)
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At the beginning of his career, Luther was apparently sympathetic to Jewish resistance to the Catholic Church. He wrote, early in his career:
The Jews are blood-relations of our Lord; if it were proper to boast of flesh and blood, the Jews belong more to Christ than we. I beg, therefore, my dear Papist, if you become tired of abusing me as a heretic, that you begin to revile me as a Jew.
But Luther expected them to convert to his purified Christianity. When they did not, he turned violently against Jews.
Satan Decieves the WORLD| 5.29.09 @ 9:54AM
All Jews need to pray for themselves, and turn away from SATAN, and BAAL. And stop the killing in Palestine, and stop the blood letting they have planned for the American people who gave them refuge, after the 2nd world war.
And the Blood letting they have planned for Europe, these people gave their lives to help you, and you turn on them in 2009.
Their Children and gran children losing their lives fighting to defend your crimes against humanity.
Yes they are Christians, you stole their Christian Values, after they saved you from the Germans, your thanks was to destroy their lives. And their country.
P/| 5.29.09 @ 11:10AM
Triple-exthnics
Nathan Abrams on Jews in the American porn industry
Nathan Abrams | Winter 2004 - Number 196
A story little told is that of Jews in Hollywood’s seedier cousin, the adult film industry. Perhaps we’d prefer to pretend that the ‘triple-exthnics’ didn’t exist, but there’s no getting away from the fact that secular Jews have played (and still continue to play) a disproportionate role throughout the adult film industry in America. Jewish involvement in pornography has a long history in the United States, as Jews have helped to transform a fringe subculture into what has become a primary constituent of Americana. These are the ‘true blue Jews’.
Smut peddlers
Jewish activity in the porn industry divides into two (sometimes overlapping) groups: pornographers and performers. Though Jews make up only two per cent of the American population, they have been prominent in pornography. Many erotica dealers in the book trade between 1890 and 1940 were immigrant Jews of German origin. According to Jay A. Gertzman, author of Bookleggers and Smuthounds:The Trade in Erotica, 1920-1940 (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press, 1999), ‘Jews were prominent in the distribution of gallantiana [fiction on erotic themes and books of dirty jokes and ballads], avant-garde sexually explicit novels, sex pulps, sexology, and flagitious materials’
Gill O'Teen| 5.29.09 @ 11:33AM
What? Have I somehow stumbled onto a nazi home page? When I was young and single, I shared an apartment with a young Jewish man who was in the National Guard. He was a good friend. Becoming a tad more affluent, I moved into a fancier place. The man who lived across the hall was Jewish. He was a very good friend. I still have the chess set I received via an even swap for one I had. I got the better of that deal. When I lived in the California People's Republic, a friend of mine there was married to a wonderful Jewish woman to whom I shall always be grateful for introducing me to matzo ball soup. Shivering here in a chilly dose of climate change, I sure would like a hot bowl of that Jewish treat right now. I once worked for a good Jewish man who introduced me to brandy and egg nog one Christmas. Like bagels? Jewish!
My Father served with Patton's Army in North Africa. His company marched up through Italy and into France. He helped liberate at least one concentration camp, he never specified which. Memories of this haunted him until he died. He had no tolerance whatsoever for any who denied the Holocaust. Neither do I.
Those of us who believe in the God of the Bible, surely know that for His own reasons, He picked the Jews out of all the peoples of the world to be His chosen people. Why? I have no clue other than He did and He does not need approval from me for anything He does. He could have sent His Son anywhere in the world to be born and at the time of His choosing. He could have picked any woman to be that Child’s Mother. Any woman living anywhere at any time. He choose a Jewish woman who lived in Judea around 2,000 years ago. Mostly His Son’s childhood friends, neighbors and teachers were Jewish. His Stepfather was Jewish. His Apostles were Jewish. The people who formed the original Church were Jewish. Jesus built His Church on the solid foundation of the Old Testament which was written by Jews. Jewish scholars translated the great scientific works of the Greeks into European languages which contributed greatly to advances in architecture, mathematics, astronomy, medicine and many other sciences.
Israel is a good friend of the United States. Decent people do not desert their friends when there is trouble. Israel needs our support now more than ever before. They have certainly been a better friend to us than Iran. Our loyalties in the coming war between Israel and Iran are crystal clear to all but those blinded by obumassiah’s shooting star. We owe much to the children of Israel. If you are enemy to them, you are enemy to me. Crawl back into your pit of despair and watch your feeble minds atrophy even further as you wallow in your own waste. ✝✡
GJTryon | 12.10.09 @ 11:00PM
"Israel is a good friend of the United States." Since when do "friends" attempt to buy their friend's government via the Lobby? Since when do "friends" lead their friends into harm's way via catastrophic wars? Since when do "friends" subvert their friend's tradition and culture via Hollywood deceit and media obfuscation. Since when are duplicity and and its dupes mistaken for friends?
Israel a friend of the blind| 5.29.09 @ 11:53AM
Israel is a good friend of the United States. Decent people do not desert their friends when there is trouble.
Is that how they came to Bankrupt America, they can leave to go to Israel where are you going?.
NavyBrat| 5.29.09 @ 1:06PM
Blind Troll. Must be a slow day in the West Bank. You run out of rocks to throw? Tell us, genius, who Jews bankrupted America. Last I checked, it was societal leeches like you & the overseers you continue to vote for, so they can keep your enslaved mind & pocket book under their control. That's right. You are a slave of the government. And now, you "gimme free goodies" pukes have ruined our country. Proud of yourself, aren't you, you little Adolf, you? I wonder how you feel about black people. Please, educate us as to your vision of "racial purity."
NavyBrat| 5.29.09 @ 1:07PM
"...who Jews bankrupted America."
Sorry, "HOW" Jews bankrupted America.
HOW" Jews bankrupted America. | 5.29.09 @ 3:29PM
Keep fitting up and drawing America into WAR in the Arab world. Iraq WAR 2 Trillion and rising, I wonder how much the Iranian Fiasco will cost 3 Trillion maybe 4 Trillion, then there is Afghanistan, and Pakistan and there is India when it spreads, plus interest on the 56 Trillion debt. Keep it up, it might reach 100 Trillion soon.
Richard Baker| 5.29.09 @ 5:55PM
The ACLU was started by Roger Baldwin, a famous communist. Why is anyone surprised that his organization acts as it does? When Jesus returns there will be MUCH "weeping and gnashing of teeth". Also, the US has 70+% of the planet's attorneys. Is it any wonder that the US is a foolishly litigious country?
Eliza| 5.29.09 @ 7:22PM
Jesus was a Jew! More than enough for me!
Richard Baker| 5.29.09 @ 8:16PM
Eliza:
Agree with your sentiment.
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Jeff | 5.30.09 @ 5:18AM
Perky, you got me, I spelled separation wrong. Unfortunately for you, seperation between church and state is not something that only exists in the hollow wind tunnels of liberal brains. Contrary to popular belief the CONSTITUTION actually established the principles of a separate church and state. If that does not convince you. Thomas Jefferson, the wacko liberal he was used the words the "WALL between Church and State".
KyMouse| 5.30.09 @ 9:38AM
On the one hand, I think it would be nice to have a moderator keep OT rants from taking up space here. On the other hand, maybe it's good to read just how far off the deep end some people can go.
Dave, your personal anecdotes that "prove" how wrong Israel is are no more definitive than the ones I've gleaned on my four visits to Israel in the past decade. I've seen plenty of ugliness exhibited by Arabs toward Jews and/or Christians, and even by Jews toward Arabs and/or Christians. Our personal anecdotes matter far less than the cumulative record of Arab attempts to force the Jewish people out of Israel over the past century or so. Even if you don't care that the Bible records the ancient possession of Israel by the Jews, you must acknowledge that the modern state of Israel came about through the U.N., in accordance with international law. Arabs make up about 20 percent of the Israeli population today, and even serve in the Knesset. Israeli Arabs enjoy a standard of living that can only be dreamed of by Arabs in most other Middle Eastern countries. Israel has the right to defend itself against enemy attack, and won back the biblical lands of Judea and Samaria after being attacked from them. I doubt that anything I say will make any difference to you, but I at least hope you will read "From Time Immemorial" by Joan Peters. No other nation on earth would put up with the attacks that Israel has endured for decades. And no other nation would continue to pursue a pointless "piece-by-piece" plan with enemies who refuse to accept its very existence. As a very wise person has said, "If the Arabs put down their weapons, there would be no more war. If Israel put down its weapons, there would be no more Israel."
Perky| 5.30.09 @ 4:06PM
Jeff, cite proof of the establishment of the wall between Church and State in the Constitution. You can't, stupid--because it doesn't exist. Jefferson's comments were in letters he wrote to friends and acquaintances--hardly established points in the Constitution. Not only does your spelling stink, but you are a stupid liar, too. GO RUSH!! RUSH LIMBAUGH IS AN AMERICAN HERO AND PATRIOT!!
Liza| 5.30.09 @ 4:11PM
Let the ugly anti-Semite, Daphne Kenward speak. It's important that we see the hate-filled evil we are up against. I pray that our God will gird our loins for the battle ahead. Make no mistake, people--a battle is coming. Just read the bigot, Daphne's vicious posts--liberals mean business.
Richard Baker| 5.30.09 @ 7:18PM
Don't you love how folks like Jeff continually refer to non-existent passages within the Constitution as support for their ideas? You know, ideas such as abortion, affirmative action (er, racism), and homosexual marriage. Wonder what the word for reverse plagiarism is.
Oh Jeff, since you don't obviously know ANYTHING about the foundings of the US, the Founding Fathers were against mandatory support and membership in any church as in the Anglican Church in England. Using Mr. Jefferson's letter,from, I believe 1802, shows your lack of understanding on this, much less knowledge and must be terribly embarassing to you, especially when you evidence it in public.
William| 5.30.09 @ 7:24PM
I am always at a loss with leftist people. I can never reach a conclusion as to whether they are primarily vile, primarily intrusive, or primarily petty. These moral failures squirm and writhe over and over one another like a bucket of hagfish.
Leftists are so nasty.
Richard Baker| 5.31.09 @ 9:29AM
William:
The reason that liberals do what they do is street theater. Since reality doesn't really enter into their thought (?) processes, it's all angry play-acting to them. These people are so worried what other liberals will think of them that appearances are paramount. Remember, since most of the liberals today are Baby Boomers, the slogan "Reality bites" came from the '60s crowd who loved the street theater aspects of the anti-war movement during Vietnam. As soon as the draft went away, so did the anti-war movement. Have heard some of these older losers lamenting that the anti-war movement today isn't anything like that during Vietnam. Street theater uber alles!
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Eliza| 5.29.09 @ 7:22PM
Jesus was a Jew! More than enough for me!
Jesus of Nazareth! ever hear of him, the one that the Pharisees plotted and Murdered, Christ came as a teacher and yet these Satanic people done know anything.
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GJTryon | 12.10.09 @ 11:12PM
So where's "Daphne," whom so many feel duty bound to rank on? Was she pulled? Shucks! She sounds so entertaining. I wish the site meisters would fess up if they censor someone, and spare us the trouble of trying to find a non-existent post. Maybe I can catch up with her on Stormfront...
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Remember, since most of the liberals today are Baby Boomers, the slogan "Reality bites" came from the '60s crowd who loved the street theater aspects of the anti-war movement during Vietnam. As soon as the draft went away, so did the anti-war movement.
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