5.12.09 @ 6:01AM
Liberals want to torture Sean Hannity. Interpreting amnesty
advocates. The EU is too big. Plus more.
LIBERAL IS AS LIBERAL DOES
W. James Antle,
III's Amnesty
Again:
I would like to clarify comments attributed to me that were
mischaracterized in the article "Amnesty Again,'' by W. James
Antle, III, on May 11, 2009. I originally told The Miami
Herald, from which I am cited, that Esther Olavarria could
be expected to "fight tooth and nail'' for an immigration reform
package that would be more fair and humane -- NOT "for more
liberal immigration laws.'' The article is incorrect to suggest
such an interpretation.
-- Cheryl Little
Executive Director, Florida Immigrant Advocacy Center
Miami, Florida
W. James Antle III
replies:
Actually, the Miami Herald article, as reproduced on the website
of Ms. Little's organization, says Olavarria would fight "tooth
and nail" for "a reform package that will lead to more normal
lives for immigrants." Since the second part is a paraphrase
rather than a direct quote, I'm happy to see Ms. Little's views
stated in her own words. I'm also confident that her idea of a
"more fair and humane" immigration reform would be regarded as a
liberalization of immigration policy by most Americans.
TORTURE HANNITY
Re: Mark Hyman's Obama's
Tortured Logic:
Hey, I'm eagerly awaiting Sean Hannity's long-term time on the
plank water boarding experience, especially with Keith
Olbermann promising $1,000/second. When's Hannity gonna take
the plunge, so to speak, and put his mouth where his brain
oughta be?
-- Bill Neill
Conroe, Texas
A few more thoughts:
"Waterboarding is on par with the 9/11 attacks? Nope. Don't see
it. No matter how hard the New York
Times tries, there is no moral equivalency between the
two." Another favorite comparison given is Nazi Germany killing
millions of people because of their religion -- yeah, I don't
really see the comparison there either.
"In fact, water boarding is so "horrific" that the four military
services have used it for years in their search, evade,
resistance and escape training for aircrew and special forces
personnel"
In fact -- according to liberals, like Keith Olbermann, who want
to be able to get on their moral high horse at any opportunity
they can -- waterboarding is so horrific and equates to torture,
however they are calling for the waterboarding of Sean Hannity
simply because he mentioned in an interview that he'd be willing
to do it. So, let me get this straight. Waterboarding is so
disgusting, vile, torturous, and inhumane for known terrorists,
BUT let's campaign for Hannity to do it! Anyone see the warped
thinking here?
It all feels very "the emperor's new clothes" to me.
-- Nora
I would like repeat an expression offered by one of the
commentators about the article (S.L. Toddard, 5.11.09@7;46AM):
"Neo-Con Warriors." As far as I'm concerned these types of
articles are written to appeal to Neocons, who, for the most part
have never served in the military, let alone fought in a war.
They're the types who actually think the series "Twenty-Four" is
an accurate depiction.
The importance of this fact is that if they'd actually been
subjected to some of this training, they'd understand that it was
just that -- training. They'd understand that it would have been
different in intensity if it were used on an alleged enemy.
They'd also understand there's a difference between subject a
person to this kind of treatment for a few days, and a few weeks,
months, or years.
Maybe if the author would try it, he wouldn't think it such a
walk in the park, and wouldn't write such trash. And, maybe you
wouldn't publish such garbage -- even though it seems to fit your
agenda.
-- Tad Farrand
I went through the Air Force Survival Training School many years
ago. In its early days survival training was designed to prepare
us pilots for the torture used by earlier North Korean
interrogators. At the time it was frightening. While water
boarding was not yet used, many of the current techniques still
are. I can recall being buried in a coffin in a shallow grave,
stuffed into a contorted position within a small locker, kept
awake through the night by loud noise and, as a goodbye gesture,
having hair pulled out of my chest.
No question that it was scary but we all lived through it. One
idea was clear in the process: the interrogator had to keep you
alive to gain the information they wanted. It turned out in those
days they wanted us to confess to "conducting germ warfare."
The current administration's policy on "torture" is a poorly
thought-out political gesture but the result of adopting it
is that they have placed our people at a tactical and strategic
disadvantage and have emboldened the enemy. Doen't that violate
the president's oath of office to support and defend the
Constitution?
-- Bill Bagwell
BARELY REPRESENTED
Re: Doug Bandow's
Klaus
Encounters:
Another great article from Doug Bandow -- right on the
money!
Sadly, however, I have some bad news for him. I have a
number of British friends who see the E.U. from the completely
opposite viewpoint. I have no doubt whatsoever that their
viewpoint sweeps across, not only the U.K., but all of the
European Union.
Try as I might, I cannot convince them of the very dangers
Mr. Bandow enumerates! They won't believe me when I tell them
that the U.S. has been undergoing the exact same dominating
interference from a centralized federal government, and that they
should learn from and benefit from our sad experience.
I have actually given up trying, for fear of losing some
good friends.
Their resistance takes two forms. The first is a set of
philosophical blinders which they willingly wear, not just "even
though," but precisely because, they allow themselves to
see only what they want to see.
The second is a philosophical blindfold. With this,
it's not even a matter of tunnel vision -- it's a complete
blacking out of everything about the E.U. As long as they
can keep putting one foot in front of the other, they keep on
walking.
Both sets want desperately to believe that there is value
in a super-government in Europe, with dreams of economic
strength, international influence if not dominance, and social
nirvana here on earth.
E.U. "micromanagement" as the price for that? Not
only do they accept the very micromanagement by the Eurocrats
that Mr. Bandow describes, they blandly insist that it doesn't
happen.
And none of them want a referendum.
-- A. C. Santore
Might I contribute some facts and figures to Doug Bandow's
illuminating article?
There are potentially some 375,000,000 EU-voters, and 785
members of the EU parliament. This works out at
one such member "representing" close on half a million
EU-burghers.
This constitutes, in the opinion of one British
citizen, democracy diluted.
-- John C. Constable
Hamburg, Germany