The American Spectator

Big J| 4.13.09 @ 8:23AM

The liberal purveyors of this "man made global warming" nonsense simply cannot be bothered with facts. Not on any subject.

Climate change, global warming, the climate crisis - whatever you want to call it is a total joke with the supporters twisting facts any which way they can. Crisis sells, however, and this nonsense is BIG business. Just ask algore.

Big J| 4.13.09 @ 8:38AM

My point, exactly.

Turk| 4.13.09 @ 9:02AM

There you go again Jimmy #^*@ --I mean mattuse! You are everywhere! Cant understand why a sainted leftist would hang around a "conservative rag" like the Spectator! Couldnt be to pour the nonsense of marx-lenin-stalin-hiss-mao-che et al into polite conservative discourse---could it??

Mike| 4.13.09 @ 9:07AM

There is a reason why I non renewed my National Geographic subscription. But don't worry, the cult that is AcornBoy is about ready to shoot pollutants in the air to reverse the "effect" of US made global warming even though the earth has cooled since the year 2000. If only we were as smart as the leftist droolers. Maybe someday. Cap and trade, The Kyoto, cardon taxes all of which are failing in Europe and having devasting economic impacts abroad. DM, do you have signed Al Gore poster in your basement bedroom?

ClioSmith| 4.13.09 @ 9:26AM

Dave Matthews says Lake Mead and Powell are drying up. Given this years' unusually large snowfall in the Rockies, which feeds the Colorado River, this seems unlikely.

Of course, if one cherry picks the points between measurement, it is usually possible to establish a clear trend one way or the other, which can then be extrapolated into the indefinite future.

Dave needs to defend his claim about Lakes Mead and Powell. If he'd concentrate on empirical data rather than name calling, his presence on these threads would be useful.

Michael L. Hauschild| 4.13.09 @ 9:31AM

Headline from the Four Corners Times.
Pueblo Civilization apocalypse averted by tribal council mandate, shamans forced into use of environmentally friendly talismans.

Appleby| 4.13.09 @ 10:22AM

I have been to Australia (twice) including an extended visit to the Northern Territory. Except for the mewling Greenies and their imposition of the same conditions that caused Canifornia to burn like the Fourth of July, the weather has been the same there for hundreds of years and so have the consequences -- consult any of the Aboriginals for details. Their history goes back a loooooooooooooooooong way.

But that is the problem with leaving science (or should I say "science") to people who think LOL is a word.

Big J| 4.13.09 @ 10:40AM

I cannot describe my utter joy at the fact that the ultra-liberal, name calling idiot that posts under Dave Mathews has been deleted from the responses here! Thank you moderator.

Big Leo| 4.13.09 @ 10:44AM

Mike, you dropped your National Geographic subscription too? I still read it in the library for the few articles that are worthwhile. This month's articles are all global warming but one. One article "proves" that both all excessive rainfall and all excessive drought are due to AGW. They haven't yet figured out how normal weather (whatever that is) is also due to AGW, but I have faith that in time they will.

Crusader| 4.13.09 @ 10:49AM

Every thing "wrong" in the world can be blamed on one of the following:

1 - George W. Bush
2 - Man, in general
3 - Evil corporations

There you go.

Periwinkel| 4.13.09 @ 10:57AM

Dave Matthews is really gone? He is the reason I couldn't bring myself to post here...he was just too off the wall to make sense. I couldn't understand who would want to try. Hooray for the American Spectator!

Robert Rosencrans| 4.13.09 @ 11:48AM

Worse then secular reactions to alleged global warming/climate change/voodoo environmentalism, are the personal attacks being conducted against anyone who points out the fact that this entire genre is a total fraud.

Skep41| 4.13.09 @ 11:58AM

Its amazing. throughout this record cold winter, a winter with polar ice growing to record levels and sea temperatures declining the Greenies have yelled that this is anecdotal and that you cant judge an overall trend by an anomaly. But if theres a drought in Australia then that conclusively proves that global warming exists. Its amazing how bad the reasoning is for this 'settled' science, with its advocates having to 'adjust' their conclusions every time they present some falsified or incomplete data. If these idiots had any conclusive proof or even some evidence that there was a relationship between carbon emissions and climate change the world media would be trumpeting it from every broadcasting outlet. That silence in itself proves that they dont. The thinness of their arguments and the shrillness of their propaganda points to a near certainty that the Greenies are wrong.

I must say, however, that species extinction is a serious problem. Davidus Mathewcanensus has disappeared entirely from its natural habitat and although this obnoxious, venomous beast will be generally unlamented the emissions of greenhouse gas from this creature in no way will affect the planetary climate.

Rocco| 4.13.09 @ 12:07PM

Matthews, that coward and moron is gone? Ah, there IS a God (and a diligent moderator)!!

Rocco| 4.13.09 @ 12:08PM

But, I am sure he will be back under a new moniker. Just wait and see!

Stan Redmond| 4.13.09 @ 12:29PM

There is just too much money in global warming scams to go away. Now even more so with Obama's tax and cap scheme he himself stated will bring a trillion or so dollars in to federal coffers. never let a crisis go to waste indeed. And if there's no crisis to cram marxism down the world's collective throat, invent one.

Marc Jeric| 4.13.09 @ 12:45PM

The marxists/leninists are flexible and persistent. When the globaloney cooling scam of the 1970's did not pan out (they recommended dismantling war planes so they could seed polar ice with soot to prevent the new ice age), they invented globaloney warming hoax of the 1990's. Well, after 11 years of substantial cooling they have come up now with the climate change flimflam. Some of those government-paid "scientists" (about 90% of them rejects of private enterprise - is that the reason for their animus against free markets?) have been involved in all three of these criminal enterprises - such as Dr. Hansen.
And our MSM love the stories of catastrophes. I remember the Washington Post picture of a nuclear power plant cooling tower issuing the cloud of the purest water vapor - saying how that deadly radiation is spreading over Pennsylvania. That water vapor from the cooling tower had nothing to do with the reactor - it was just the recirculating condenser cooling water present in all power plants - nuclear, oil-fired, coal-fired, geothermal.

Andrew D| 4.13.09 @ 12:59PM

Not saying 'global warming' is "true" or "flase", but I do question whether the "not happening in Australia" claim included verification of temeperature rises and the shift of the arid line farther north?

JeffW| 4.13.09 @ 2:19PM

Watched for the Troll. Didn't take long.

TROLL ALERT!!!!

P Walker| 4.13.09 @ 2:38PM

Anyone remember The Thorn Birds ? Weather in Australia has always been harsh . Only those who are illiterate in science can be continually duped by the AGWers .

alanstorm| 4.13.09 @ 4:10PM

David Mathews and Jharp -

And your extensive background in science is...?

Nonexistent, I have no doubt. Modern leftists' invoking "Science!" is roughly equivalent to a stone-age tribesman invoking the gods, and should be dismissed as easily. Neither has a clue as to what's happening or why.

Nate| 4.13.09 @ 4:30PM

Alanstorm--couldn't help but chuckle when I saw your line about a "stone-age tribesman invoking the gods". Reminded me of an article I saw on this very website by JD Homnick about the potential effects of prayer on weather:

http://spectator.org/archives/2007/11/21/the-sky-is-no-limit

stmich(DenierBoy)rick| 4.13.09 @ 7:25PM

Mr David Globalmathews

Have I missed something? On previous threads you have declined to mention your scientific perspective on this. Having watched the Algore slideshow repeatedlyand being a former member of Mr Wizard's Fan Club do not count.

All I have seen is your expertise in Insipid Insultology.

You are certainly in the politically correct school of the school of climatology but, by now, you must be getting the feeling that your time is passing. The scientists on our side are becoming more vocal so I would suggest you contemplate your exit strategy from all this.

I will be kind when you see the light.

Roman Melnyk| 4.13.09 @ 8:44PM

A friend of mine (96) just died, an Australian. He remembers the days when he was a kid, that the Murray river was filled and fat, and then dry and dusty: he said it happens all the time. One of his sons I email with says, he is having flooding. It seems rather funny that 20/30 million people can bring so much devastation in a country bigger than the good ols USA.

stmichrick| 4.13.09 @ 9:30PM

Roman;

Your friend has credibility;
the fool Mathews here has none.
Sorry to hear of the loss of your friend.

fido| 4.13.09 @ 9:59PM

I actually get a kick out of the David Mathews types... they make me feel so, well, so superior :-) My, my, my... I can just see David Mathews Sr. in the 70's trumpeting the "impending ice age" bilge. Like father like son? Funny to contemplate.

Christopher Holland| 4.14.09 @ 12:38AM

My parents have lived in Brisbane for more than 20 years, I visit them every year, most recently for Christmas and New Year and you can take it from me that there is no 'toilet to tap' water use in that fair city - or in any other city in Australia.

James of Melbourne| 4.14.09 @ 12:53AM

As a sixth generation australian resident living in the south east corner of the country [where this year's bushfires occurred], can I assure all of you that this year's heat/weather events were not out of the ordinary - we've had worse many times in the past - though the intensity of the fires was certainly exacerbated by ridiculous green policies prohibiting sensible cool weather burning of undergrowth. I can assure you all that conditions here are as pleasant as they always are; in fact, the rainfall in the south here is above long term patters and in fact the central desert areas will certainly fill with water this year for the first time in a number of decades.

To the person who posts on your site under the name "David Matthews" can I say that your assertion that Australia is heading for collapse and non-existence is unmitigated rubbish and without a skerrick of credibility to back it up.
Australia is a huge, rich, and bountiful country, with massive water supplies and unlimited agricultural and resource potential and your assertions only demonstrate your abject ignorance of the subject you seem so ready to pontificate upon.

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