If we haven't recovered by now, we never will. A special report.
(Page 4 of 4)
Yet the continued operation of Oyster Creek poses a danger to the
nuclear industry. One incident and we will be right back in 1979
and another Three Mile Island. The Nuclear Renaissance will be
strangled in its cradle.
Despite being the object of scorn for three decades, nuclear
energy delivers enormous benefits to the American public. With
only 9 percent of the nation's generating capacity, it produces
20 percent of our electricity. Natural gas, on the other hand --
the favorite of environmentalists -- makes up 39 percent of our
capacity but delivers only 20 percent of our electricity because
the fuel is so expensive.
The nation's disdain for the nuclear industry and lack of will in
constructing new reactors has put us in a precarious position.
Our entire energy future may be riding on the fate of a few
40-year-old reactors. Somebody had better pay attention to this
before we have another nuclear accident and the enormous promise
of nuclear energy in this country ends for good.
(Portions of this article are excerpted from William
Tucker's recent book,Terrestrial
Energy.)
This administration is not interested in science, only the failed
religion of liberalism.
owyheewine| 3.31.09 @ 9:41AM
A couple of points that need to be corrected and clarified.
First, U238 is fissable, but when it "breaks apart", it does not
produce enough neutrons to sustain the reaction. Just a picky
point. The other omission is the failure to mention the
development of DDC, direct digital (computer) control. Earlier
systems, called analog, were orders of magnitude slower and less
precise than DDC. What that means is that an old outdated PC
(think pre pentium processors) has enough computing horsepower to
control a reactor. These systems usually are operated in
triplicate so that control systems are backed up as much as space
shuttle systems. That combined with better training and
operations technique make today's reactors almost failure proof.
Mike Donavan| 3.31.09 @ 10:55AM
According to that bill security is OK. Fine, but what about
radioactive waste and retired nuclear facilities ? Nobody knows
what to do with that stuff. Considering that some of it has a 10
000 years lifelong, you'd better consider it twice if you don't
want to blow our children's environment. That is the real
question about nuclear energy as we know it today.
I am surprised that 30 years later, no significant improvment has
come from scientific research...
Big Leo| 3.31.09 @ 11:08AM
Most nuclear waste is low-level waste that is scarcely
radioactive. You wouldn't want to sleep on a pile of it for a
couple of years, but it isn't particularly deadly. The high level
waste is very compact and could be stored in a medium sized room.
I'll put all of it in a bunker in the back field for a million
dollars a year. Actually, a stable geological area would be
better, like Yucca Flats. I live on a dormant volcanic field.
Joe| 3.31.09 @ 11:29AM
Mike, wake up. The French have been doing a good job of getting
rid of it for years including recycling it until it is of no use
anymore. We are very very safe!!!
I refer you to my previous article on French reprocessing
efforts:
http://spectator.org/archives/2008/05/12/parlez-vous-nucleaire
cdc| 3.31.09 @ 4:22PM
Reprocessing introduces more risks and inefficiencies into the
system than necessary. The promising designs now, my preference
is for molten salt, don't need reprocessing; but rather allow for
continuos in line fueling/breeding so fissibles go in and
non-fissibles come out.
Marc Jeric| 3.31.09 @ 4:27PM
To call the Three-Mile Island equipment failure "an accident" is
criminally negligent - not a fly was hurt in that so-called
accident. When two cars collide with no injuries we call that a
bumper hit or paint scratch - we do not call it an accident when
there are no injuries.
Also, not many people know how that equipment failure occurred
nor why. The brand-new Unit 2 of that nuclear power plant was
only 8 weeks in operation when the Carter's Nuclear Regulatory
Commission, with one member of the 5-member commission was a
Sierra Club lawyer and another a Massachussetts consumer
advocate, directed additional tests of the auxilliary cooling
water system. Why - there was no reason for that - the plant just
finished all required tests 8 weeks before.
The lectric utility company contracted out this unnecessary test
to an outside company with union labor. They tested that system
with satisfactory results - but, following union rules the crew
left the work on time with 20 minutes given to washup. Thus they
left the auxilliary cooling water pump with the valve closed
instead of open, without informing the operators of that fact.
When the relief valve on the reactor got stuck in the open
position the water escaped from the reactor while the Auxilliary
cooling water pump came on - but the closed valve did not let
that water to arrive to the reactor.
So - it was not an accident since nobody was injured. The causes
were :
1) unnecessary tests demanded by the NRC nincompoops for a brand
new plant;
2) union work rules that stopped the inspections;
3) unionized utility workforce without a single competent
engineer on staff.
…Wikipedia fun Women WWII Archives March 2009 February 2009 January 2009 December 2008 November 2008 October 2008 Pages About Three Mile Island in Perspective By: Al Published: March 31st, 2009 A good article about the much-overblown incident at the Three Mile Island nuclear power plant and how America’s nuclear power industry has changed since. Some highlights: Three Mile Island was an industrial…
W White| 3.31.09 @ 7:57PM
TMI was a godsend for the Nuclear Program.
I had been involved in Nuclear Power in the decade before TMI and
spent 3 months on site in the initial recovery phase. For several
years after that I was involved in the application of 'Lessons
Learned' and the Upgrading efforts. TMI enlightened all of us,
and we needed it. It was sobering to realize firsthand how little
the Regulators and the Utility hierarchy understood about what
they were dealing with.
The accident hit the pocketbook hard enough that the glaring TMI
message was taken seriously . A safe, reliable ,mature program
has evolved -one that this country desperately needs at least
until the 20% nuclear contribution can be replaced.
Unfortunately that enviable record is being put in jeopardy by
the blanket approach in the relicensing laws. They do not account
for the much greater risk in trying to extend the life of pre-TMI
Plants. The whole industry is vulnerable, and indeed the power
sensitive economy as a whole, while these plants remain in the
system . Older units should be phased out as soon as replacement
power becomes available.
A TMI type event at any one of the existing 100 plants would, to
say the least, undo 30 years of hard earned progress. That
'bailout' would indeed be a real challenge!
What a shame that the blanket relicensing rules
V Fisher| 3.31.09 @ 8:45PM
I did some research for a debate last year and was surprised to
learn that there has never been a personal injury suit brought
about by the Three Mile Island incident and the only legal action
was by local businesses who sued the local government because
they were shut down due to over reaction to the situation.
stmichrick| 3.31.09 @ 11:39PM
V Fisher
The local businesses should have sued the producers of The China
Syndrome film which MADE money as a result of the incident.
ARealist| 4.1.09 @ 1:37PM
ALL nuclear power plants presently in operation today in the USA
are based on designs produced in the late 60s or early 70s.
The designs are, literally, ancient.
Yet, they have performed admirably.
New nuclear plants, if ever built in the USA, will be far safer ,
more stupid proof and more efficient than those operating
today.
Look at the good results of nuclear plants operated by the French
and by the US Navy.
As to nuclear waste ; it is inconceivable that scientists will
have made ZERO progress over the next 100 years in figuring out
what to do with this stuff and turn it into useful materials -
either recycled or otherwise.
As to whether we will have any more nuclear plants built in the
USA , well, that is a pipe dream.
We have a Marxist as president who is doing all he can to destroy
the USA via bankruptcy.
We have a communist environmental lobby that tosses money to
their fellow useful idiots in Congress to prevent any thoughts of
nuclear plants.
We have an ignorant public that believes that there is no
difference betwixt an H bomb and a nuclear powered generating
station.
We have a communist media that will willfully engage in lies and
distortion to "prove"nuclear power is the same as an H bomb, and
will give face time to any facist communist hate-america firster
wacko "environmentalist."
We are doomed to 8 dollar gasoline, sky rocketing electric and
heating gas bills - and worse - as Obama and his fellow traveling
hate america first communist fascist bolshevik nazi pig tyrants
take over.
American Patriot| 4.2.09 @ 1:11AM
Jeez, ARealist, looks like every one is a communist but you! Give
in and join us!
flyboy| 4.2.09 @ 8:46AM
After spending 20+ years in Nuclear power as engineer and
licensed operator, I can assure you that refueling outages,
whether three months or three weeks duration, have never been
viewed as vacations by the plant personnel! The Westinghouse
AP-1000 is a brilliant design that should be guilt in quantity.
It has passive safety systems that lower cost and make it
basically disaster proof. (Full disclosure, I have done a little
contract work on the AP-1000 initial operating procedure
preparation) Thanks for the good article.
Mike Donavan| 4.16.09 @ 4:45AM
Interesting paper about TMI :
http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/04/post-4.html
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some answers to some of the frequently asked questions about
Mythology Island. Having trouble? Post a question in the comments
and I’ll try to answer it!
Getting Hercules to Help You
Hercules won’t help you until you have all five items from Zeus’
quest. Once you have the five items, bring them to Athena. Zeus
will appear and steal them. The big jerk! Once this happens, talk
to Athena and she will tell you that Hercules will help you.
You’ll need to have the magic mirror from Aphrodite because
Hercules doesn’t want to have to walk. He’s so lazy!
Getting the Hydra Scale
You can see how to do this in the videos, but basically you need
to jump up when the Hydra is about to strike. He will rear one of
his heads back to attack and his eyes will bulge out. When this
happens, jump up in the air and then try to land on top of his
head. That head will get knocked out. When all five heads get
knocked out, the Hydra will be asleep and you can click on him to
get one of the scales. Poptropica I’ll have a
full written walkthrough very soon, but in the meantime, here are
some answers to some of the frequently asked questions about
Mythology Island. PoptropicaHaving trouble? Post
a question in the comments and I’ll try to answer it!
Getting Hercules to Help You Poptropica
Indiana Alex| 3.31.09 @ 9:18AM
This administration is not interested in science, only the failed religion of liberalism.
owyheewine| 3.31.09 @ 9:41AM
A couple of points that need to be corrected and clarified. First, U238 is fissable, but when it "breaks apart", it does not produce enough neutrons to sustain the reaction. Just a picky point. The other omission is the failure to mention the development of DDC, direct digital (computer) control. Earlier systems, called analog, were orders of magnitude slower and less precise than DDC. What that means is that an old outdated PC (think pre pentium processors) has enough computing horsepower to control a reactor. These systems usually are operated in triplicate so that control systems are backed up as much as space shuttle systems. That combined with better training and operations technique make today's reactors almost failure proof.
Mike Donavan| 3.31.09 @ 10:55AM
According to that bill security is OK. Fine, but what about radioactive waste and retired nuclear facilities ? Nobody knows what to do with that stuff. Considering that some of it has a 10 000 years lifelong, you'd better consider it twice if you don't want to blow our children's environment. That is the real question about nuclear energy as we know it today.
I am surprised that 30 years later, no significant improvment has come from scientific research...
Big Leo| 3.31.09 @ 11:08AM
Most nuclear waste is low-level waste that is scarcely radioactive. You wouldn't want to sleep on a pile of it for a couple of years, but it isn't particularly deadly. The high level waste is very compact and could be stored in a medium sized room. I'll put all of it in a bunker in the back field for a million dollars a year. Actually, a stable geological area would be better, like Yucca Flats. I live on a dormant volcanic field.
Joe| 3.31.09 @ 11:29AM
Mike, wake up. The French have been doing a good job of getting rid of it for years including recycling it until it is of no use anymore. We are very very safe!!!
William Tucker| 3.31.09 @ 11:46AM
Gentleman,
I refer you to my previous article on French reprocessing efforts: http://spectator.org/archives/2008/05/12/parlez-vous-nucleaire
cdc| 3.31.09 @ 4:22PM
Reprocessing introduces more risks and inefficiencies into the system than necessary. The promising designs now, my preference is for molten salt, don't need reprocessing; but rather allow for continuos in line fueling/breeding so fissibles go in and non-fissibles come out.
Marc Jeric| 3.31.09 @ 4:27PM
To call the Three-Mile Island equipment failure "an accident" is criminally negligent - not a fly was hurt in that so-called accident. When two cars collide with no injuries we call that a bumper hit or paint scratch - we do not call it an accident when there are no injuries.
Also, not many people know how that equipment failure occurred nor why. The brand-new Unit 2 of that nuclear power plant was only 8 weeks in operation when the Carter's Nuclear Regulatory Commission, with one member of the 5-member commission was a Sierra Club lawyer and another a Massachussetts consumer advocate, directed additional tests of the auxilliary cooling water system. Why - there was no reason for that - the plant just finished all required tests 8 weeks before.
The lectric utility company contracted out this unnecessary test to an outside company with union labor. They tested that system with satisfactory results - but, following union rules the crew left the work on time with 20 minutes given to washup. Thus they left the auxilliary cooling water pump with the valve closed instead of open, without informing the operators of that fact. When the relief valve on the reactor got stuck in the open position the water escaped from the reactor while the Auxilliary cooling water pump came on - but the closed valve did not let that water to arrive to the reactor.
So - it was not an accident since nobody was injured. The causes were :
1) unnecessary tests demanded by the NRC nincompoops for a brand new plant;
2) union work rules that stopped the inspections;
3) unionized utility workforce without a single competent engineer on staff.
Pingback| 3.31.09 @ 6:00PM
Three Mile Island in Perspective | The Blog of Record links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
W White| 3.31.09 @ 7:57PM
TMI was a godsend for the Nuclear Program.
I had been involved in Nuclear Power in the decade before TMI and spent 3 months on site in the initial recovery phase. For several years after that I was involved in the application of 'Lessons Learned' and the Upgrading efforts. TMI enlightened all of us, and we needed it. It was sobering to realize firsthand how little the Regulators and the Utility hierarchy understood about what they were dealing with.
The accident hit the pocketbook hard enough that the glaring TMI message was taken seriously . A safe, reliable ,mature program has evolved -one that this country desperately needs at least until the 20% nuclear contribution can be replaced.
Unfortunately that enviable record is being put in jeopardy by the blanket approach in the relicensing laws. They do not account for the much greater risk in trying to extend the life of pre-TMI Plants. The whole industry is vulnerable, and indeed the power sensitive economy as a whole, while these plants remain in the system . Older units should be phased out as soon as replacement power becomes available.
A TMI type event at any one of the existing 100 plants would, to say the least, undo 30 years of hard earned progress. That 'bailout' would indeed be a real challenge!
What a shame that the blanket relicensing rules
V Fisher| 3.31.09 @ 8:45PM
I did some research for a debate last year and was surprised to learn that there has never been a personal injury suit brought about by the Three Mile Island incident and the only legal action was by local businesses who sued the local government because they were shut down due to over reaction to the situation.
stmichrick| 3.31.09 @ 11:39PM
V Fisher
The local businesses should have sued the producers of The China Syndrome film which MADE money as a result of the incident.
ARealist| 4.1.09 @ 1:37PM
ALL nuclear power plants presently in operation today in the USA are based on designs produced in the late 60s or early 70s.
The designs are, literally, ancient.
Yet, they have performed admirably.
New nuclear plants, if ever built in the USA, will be far safer , more stupid proof and more efficient than those operating today.
Look at the good results of nuclear plants operated by the French and by the US Navy.
As to nuclear waste ; it is inconceivable that scientists will have made ZERO progress over the next 100 years in figuring out what to do with this stuff and turn it into useful materials - either recycled or otherwise.
As to whether we will have any more nuclear plants built in the USA , well, that is a pipe dream.
We have a Marxist as president who is doing all he can to destroy the USA via bankruptcy.
We have a communist environmental lobby that tosses money to their fellow useful idiots in Congress to prevent any thoughts of nuclear plants.
We have an ignorant public that believes that there is no difference betwixt an H bomb and a nuclear powered generating station.
We have a communist media that will willfully engage in lies and distortion to "prove"nuclear power is the same as an H bomb, and will give face time to any facist communist hate-america firster wacko "environmentalist."
We are doomed to 8 dollar gasoline, sky rocketing electric and heating gas bills - and worse - as Obama and his fellow traveling hate america first communist fascist bolshevik nazi pig tyrants take over.
American Patriot| 4.2.09 @ 1:11AM
Jeez, ARealist, looks like every one is a communist but you! Give in and join us!
flyboy| 4.2.09 @ 8:46AM
After spending 20+ years in Nuclear power as engineer and licensed operator, I can assure you that refueling outages, whether three months or three weeks duration, have never been viewed as vacations by the plant personnel! The Westinghouse AP-1000 is a brilliant design that should be guilt in quantity. It has passive safety systems that lower cost and make it basically disaster proof. (Full disclosure, I have done a little contract work on the AP-1000 initial operating procedure preparation) Thanks for the good article.
Mike Donavan| 4.16.09 @ 4:45AM
Interesting paper about TMI :
http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/04/post-4.html
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I’ll have a Poptropica full written walkthrough very soon, but in the meantime, here are some answers to some of the frequently asked questions about Mythology Island. Having trouble? Post a question in the comments and I’ll try to answer it!
Getting Hercules to Help You
Hercules won’t help you until you have all five items from Zeus’ quest. Once you have the five items, bring them to Athena. Zeus will appear and steal them. The big jerk! Once this happens, talk to Athena and she will tell you that Hercules will help you. You’ll need to have the magic mirror from Aphrodite because Hercules doesn’t want to have to walk. He’s so lazy!
Getting the Hydra Scale
You can see how to do this in the videos, but basically you need to jump up when the Hydra is about to strike. He will rear one of his heads back to attack and his eyes will bulge out. When this happens, jump up in the air and then try to land on top of his head. That head will get knocked out. When all five heads get knocked out, the Hydra will be asleep and you can click on him to get one of the scales. Poptropica I’ll have a full written walkthrough very soon, but in the meantime, here are some answers to some of the frequently asked questions about Mythology Island. PoptropicaHaving trouble? Post a question in the comments and I’ll try to answer it!
Getting Hercules to Help You Poptropica