The President speaks of "hard choices," but his budget promises
the moon and the stars.
(Page 2 of 2)
Obama said during the press conference that he was very serious
about reforming Medicare and Medicaid, but explained that "you're
not going to see those savings reflected until much later." He
went on to say that "a budget is a snapshot of what we can get
done right now, understanding that eight, 10 years from now we
will have had a whole series of new budgets -- and we're going to
have to make additional adjustments."
In other words, even though every shred of actual data confirms
that all the goodies Obama is distributing will lead to
unprecedented debt, we're supposed to believe that "adjustments"
will be made down the road, and that "savings" are going to kick
in at some point in the far off future.
The president is displaying the same type of thinking as Bush did
when he pursued policies that caused the record deficits
Democrats blasted during the campaign; the same as lenders who
sold adjustable rate mortgages that allowed people to buy houses
they couldn't afford; and the same as Wall Street bankers who
borrowed money to load up on complex financial products backed by
those risky mortgages.
Obama isn't making hard choices. He's simply choosing "all of the
above."
Barack is nothing but the consummate politician. While smiling in
your face and picking your pocket, he tells you it's for your own
good, while in reality, it's all for his own aggrandizement.
Yvelaine Colas| 3.26.09 @ 6:47AM
The greatest contributors to the federal debt are entitlement
programs like social security, medicare and medicaid. Previous
administrations failed to reserve adequate funds to support an
aging population and Bush's senior prescription plan (Medicare
part D) alone will bankrupt this country.
Obama's current budget does not confront these challenges because
it will take several months or years for Congress to bite the
bullet and increase payroll taxes, raise the retirement age and
cut benefits for younger Americans. The senior prescription plan
also needs to be modified which is politically unpalatable
because seniors vote en masse.
Obama is simply trying to lay down markers for long-term economic
growth this year - education, efficient health care and a green
economy in order to create the stronger workforce needed to
support aging Baby Boomers.
He can't accomplish everything at once. Forcing Congress to
invest in his priorities this year will force them to make needed
reforms within the next 2 years; otherwise, they will simply kick
the can down the road to the next administration.
drudge ette obama| 3.26.09 @ 7:07AM
Can someone please rent Daniel Hannan from the British Parliament
and bring him over here?
Hannan is the shot heard 'round the world. He has started the
next revolution. Watch him on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lW6Y4tBXs
JJ JR| 3.26.09 @ 8:52AM
To Yvelaine Colas, and for the general enterainment of Y'all:
Yvelaine, what planet are you living on and does the weather
offer four seasons there?? It's hard to figure out where to start
in terms of unraveling the false premises and outright kool-aid
drinking assumptions that underlie your post. Clicking your heels
and wishing doesn't work on this planet. But, what the hell, it's
raining outside, we're on the Road to Serfdom, so I might as well
launch on you.
Your statements on entitlements in terms of their financial
effect is true. Your prescription for the fix is typical libearl
tripe.
Why I believe you inhabit another planet is because of this
statement: "Obama is simply trying to lay down markers for
long-term economic growth this year - education, efficient health
care and a green economy in order to create the stronger
workforce needed to support aging Baby Boomers. "
Summarily taken in total, Obamanation's proposed policies in all
of these areas guarantee probably a decade-long stagflation.
Let's take education first--it's true that a key economic input
for an entreprenuerial, capitalist economy is an educated
workforce; but you are a fool to believe that Obama, a complete
captive of the Stalinist education unions, will make our schools
better.
Then there's your "efficient healthcare"--hee, hee, hee. What you
really mean is instituting command and control Stalinist mandates
for withholding care and medicines from certain populations as a
way to reduce cost. Yvelaine, really--open your eyes. The
empirical evidence is all around us from our good Canadian and
British friends on the deleterious impact of socialized medicine.
The reason our healthcare costs are annually outpacing inflation
is two-fold: 1) third party payer which removes all competitive
forces at the point of delivery and provides the false perception
that "someone else is paying"; and 2) we Americans have defaulted
to EFFECTIVE (vice efficient) healthcare i.e., we are willing to
spend more for breakthrough drugs, healthcare procedures, and
devices to live LONGER! In that environment, that is someone else
is paying and I'll demand anything to live longer, prices go up.
I won't go into a proposed solution since this is only the
Reality 101 course for you.
Now to your "green economy"--your construct seems to allude to
green economy as a big job producer. How's the marijuana your
smoking? Obama's green economy prescription is the following: 1)
put a punitive "cap and trade" (really cap and tax) mechanism is
place to extract upwards of $2 trillion (that's trillion with a
"T" Yvelaine) out of the economy. That happens children when
business pass on the cost to consumers--you and I Yvelaine; 2)
use a massive, corrupt, gov't buearacracy [let's let Barney
(ballpark) Frank and Chris ("lying weasel" per the New Haven
Register) Dodd run this buearacracy] to pick winners and loser in
the green industry by heavily subsidizing them; and 3) heavily
punish via regulation of oil, coal, and gas producers so their
costs rise making the heavily subsidzized green energy
"competitive. Some late-breaking evidence: DOE yesterday
announced the suspension of all recently issue coal mining
permits for "environmental review."
And now to your "stronger workforce to support aging
baby-boomers": have you taken into account less people working
from the combination of Obama's grotesque abortion policies
(bound to reduce the population) and less folks around as well
from the "efficient" healthcare program. Strike that--there
actually will be less in the geezer population because of the
government euthanasia program that this will entail so you may
actually have a point there.
All in all, this is more than nuts! By your writing Yvelaine, I
do detect an intellect. School yourself up girl.
P.S. I suppose you might be one of the voters who usually vote
between the 40 yard lines (i.e., moderates) who voted for
Obamanation based partly on his promise to "cut taxes for 95% of
Americans." You may have seen the news that this vaunted tax cut
ain't gonna happen. One word for all of you:
SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the "95% of taxpayers" aren't going to get a tax cut (to you
voters who usually vote between the 40 yard lines (
For many Americans the "hard" choice will be to vote the liberal
lunatics out of office next year. A course reversal, an
admittance that these guys do NOT know what they are doing.
That's the hard choice many will have to make. For some of us
it's a no-brainer. When a leader consistently lies to his people,
he needs to go. And when his fellow liberals lie to the people,
they need to go. Throw them out of office. Vote them out.
That's the real "hard choice."
And a no-brainer.
www.PatriotHangout.com
Scott| 3.26.09 @ 10:47AM
I'm sorry, "Socialist" is sooo yesterday.
Marxist.
winston bennett| 3.26.09 @ 12:44PM
we've always been at war with oceania. war IS peace. i'm bho and
i'm here to help you.
peter| 3.26.09 @ 1:04PM
Government employees get $1,600,000,000 in pay bonuses and AIG
gets $165,000,000. Should we be driving by their houses and
seeing our tax dollars at work?????? Hide the boats and RV's!!!!!
Bob| 3.26.09 @ 1:27PM
JJ -- while I don't like Obama's budget, your tripe is just as
bad as Yvelaine's. You have absolutely no substance in your post.
Only the Limbaugh/Hannity nonsense to the uneducated right wing
whackos.
Within education, did you know that Obama supports merit pay,
vouchers, and the ability to fire incompetent teachers? Probably
not. Obama's biggest problem in education will be the teacher's
unions. Furthermore, no Republicans or conservatives are talking
about entitlement reform. The only person who has mentioned that
is Obama. Please go back to school and learn something before you
post. Geeezzz...
Specifically, I have a problem with the way Obama is handling the
bailouts -- I would not do them -- and his health care plan. But
again, Republicans and conservatives have no alternatives.
Philip -- this whole budget thing is an Axelrod lead strategy to
weaken Republicans/conservatives. Don't you understand that? It
is absolutely brilliant. They are forcing Republicans to be the
party of "no". Obama can say he is just fulfilling his campaign
promises. No average voter understands the budget. But they do
understand obstructionists.
The right strategy for Republicans is to develop specific
alternatives -- not what they did today which is a two page
summary of complaints. They need to set overall goals and STOP
complaining. Right now, they are playing right into Axelrod's
hands. Aren't there any good strategists in the Republican party.
For those of us who are fiscal conservatives who do understand
economics and budgeting, there is absolutely no leadership. Eric
Kantor is a disaster along with the other "leadership" in
Congress. Rush and Hannity don't know enough to reach beyond
their limited audiences. The talking heads on the cable channels
just regurgitate the talking points. Isn't there any competent
fiscal conservative out there who's as good at strategy as
Axelrod?
donnie| 3.26.09 @ 2:17PM
Hey barry hows that teleprompter thingy working out for you. Now
there is education reform working for you our Muslim president
knows how to read.
Bram| 3.26.09 @ 2:42PM
drudge ette obama:
Great speech! Not much different on this side of the Ocean.
OR| 3.26.09 @ 2:44PM
Rick Josey writes, "When a leader consistently lies to his
people, he needs to go."
Then tell my, why'd you vote for W. twice, you dumber-than-bricks
moron?
El Wayne| 3.26.09 @ 2:44PM
BOB
"But again, Republicans and conservatives have no alternatives.
"
"It is absolutely brilliant. They are forcing Republicans to be
the party of "no"."
###############
Its lilly-livered pablum puking pukes like you who go a long way
in weakening the greatness of this once great nation. What straw
man arguments can you come up with next. I've seen your blogs for
quite sometime and while you appear very articulate all your
analysis comes down to nothing more than straw and cheerleading
for Obama. Why don't you go hang out somewhere else for awhile.
Being a party of no is infinitely better than what we have
now....we're screwed in this country by fence sitters like you.
There's one in the oval office now.
OhBummer's hijacker culture of greed-for-the-unearned is shining
through the thicket of lies and deceptions that got him elected.
At least the financial industry employees receiving bonuses are
getting them as per their contracts.
OhBummer can show no signed contract wherein I hired him to make
off with any of my money, whether by direct taxation or by his
inflation or his costs imposed my regs or dumb-axx laws. He's
just a thug --- so treat him the way you would any other thug.
That'll be pretty, won't it?
Here's a clue---when he denounces the virtue of selfishness [read
the book] and urges us to submit to "something larger than
oneself," it means that his one hand is already reaching for your
wallet, and the other is reaching for your throat, to throttle
your protest. Throw this skunk from the train, boys.
Yvelaine Colas| 3.27.09 @ 3:50AM
Dear JJ JR.
You're clearly a very angry person with a profound belief in
conspiracy theories, and I will pray for your emotional well
being.
Most of your hysterical post isn't worth responding to but I will
remind you that Brits and Canadians currently outlive Americans
and somehow manage to pay less for the same meds that you take -
and their doctors aren't controlled by some "Stalinist
bureaucratic regime". Americans are also losing a lot of doctors
because they're sick of malpractice insurance costs.
Life must be full of surprises for you, because clearly you are
unable to see beyond your nose. If entrepreneurs were no more
innovative and forward thinking in their attitude towards science
and engineering, we'd still be riding horse carriages to to work.
So, if I understand some of the commenters here, Obama will raise
expenditures to such a degree that Congress will be *forced* to
reform the economy in order to save the nation from bankruptcy.
It's an ingenious albeit indirect technique. The Obamanish
brilliance of it astounds me.
Or is it , rather, merely an ingenious argument by those who are
feeling some buyer's remorse about The One, but are not yet ready
to admit they were mistaken about him and his teleprompter?
To speak seriously, however, my estimate of Obama's IQ (not to
mention David Axelrod's) is steadily decreasing. Not a one of
these people seems to know what he is doing in the economic
realm. All their programs depend foremost upon wishful thinking,
including the belief that you can continually bleed the
productive among us with no negative consequences.
Whadaya think, can he pull it off through 2012?
danny| 3.28.09 @ 1:54PM
rick josey, i think the problem is that these guys do know
exactly what they are doing.
Yvelaine| 3.28.09 @ 2:18PM
Obama Rules, duly noted - hope you have a pleasant Sunday service
and happy hunting!
Alan Brooks| 3.28.09 @ 11:36PM
let's go on the 'record' (if there is such a thing) concerning
Bush-- he was a failure, but is no longer to to be held
accountable, as ex-presidents are protected; only Nixon was ever
disgraced, however even he never lost pension or benefits. And,
Ironically, being the son of Reagan's veep makes Dubya more
protected in every way.
Besides, a president is not Commander in C. of the economy, POTUS
is an economic figurehead, so neither Obama nor Bush can really
be held responsible for the way the economy will or will not
perform this year and into the next (only a total imbecile, a
Gingrich, or a futurist [same thing as a Gingrich] would engage
in economic projections for 2011 and beyond: factories haven't
been retooled, wealth hasn't been created, etc).
and don't forget, the huge prescription drug program was
instituted because you all have grandparents, too; which is why
Medicare spending rose 51 percent under Bush and will certainly
rise higher under Obama.
Alan Brooks| 3.28.09 @ 11:48PM
actually, there is no economy, there is only the actions of
billions of people.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 3.26.09 @ 6:33AM
Barack is nothing but the consummate politician. While smiling in your face and picking your pocket, he tells you it's for your own good, while in reality, it's all for his own aggrandizement.
Yvelaine Colas| 3.26.09 @ 6:47AM
The greatest contributors to the federal debt are entitlement programs like social security, medicare and medicaid. Previous administrations failed to reserve adequate funds to support an aging population and Bush's senior prescription plan (Medicare part D) alone will bankrupt this country.
Obama's current budget does not confront these challenges because it will take several months or years for Congress to bite the bullet and increase payroll taxes, raise the retirement age and cut benefits for younger Americans. The senior prescription plan also needs to be modified which is politically unpalatable because seniors vote en masse.
Obama is simply trying to lay down markers for long-term economic growth this year - education, efficient health care and a green economy in order to create the stronger workforce needed to support aging Baby Boomers.
He can't accomplish everything at once. Forcing Congress to invest in his priorities this year will force them to make needed reforms within the next 2 years; otherwise, they will simply kick the can down the road to the next administration.
drudge ette obama| 3.26.09 @ 7:07AM
Can someone please rent Daniel Hannan from the British Parliament and bring him over here?
Hannan is the shot heard 'round the world. He has started the next revolution. Watch him on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lW6Y4tBXs
JJ JR| 3.26.09 @ 8:52AM
To Yvelaine Colas, and for the general enterainment of Y'all:
Yvelaine, what planet are you living on and does the weather offer four seasons there?? It's hard to figure out where to start in terms of unraveling the false premises and outright kool-aid drinking assumptions that underlie your post. Clicking your heels and wishing doesn't work on this planet. But, what the hell, it's raining outside, we're on the Road to Serfdom, so I might as well launch on you.
Your statements on entitlements in terms of their financial effect is true. Your prescription for the fix is typical libearl tripe.
Why I believe you inhabit another planet is because of this statement: "Obama is simply trying to lay down markers for long-term economic growth this year - education, efficient health care and a green economy in order to create the stronger workforce needed to support aging Baby Boomers. "
Summarily taken in total, Obamanation's proposed policies in all of these areas guarantee probably a decade-long stagflation.
Let's take education first--it's true that a key economic input for an entreprenuerial, capitalist economy is an educated workforce; but you are a fool to believe that Obama, a complete captive of the Stalinist education unions, will make our schools better.
Then there's your "efficient healthcare"--hee, hee, hee. What you really mean is instituting command and control Stalinist mandates for withholding care and medicines from certain populations as a way to reduce cost. Yvelaine, really--open your eyes. The empirical evidence is all around us from our good Canadian and British friends on the deleterious impact of socialized medicine. The reason our healthcare costs are annually outpacing inflation is two-fold: 1) third party payer which removes all competitive forces at the point of delivery and provides the false perception that "someone else is paying"; and 2) we Americans have defaulted to EFFECTIVE (vice efficient) healthcare i.e., we are willing to spend more for breakthrough drugs, healthcare procedures, and devices to live LONGER! In that environment, that is someone else is paying and I'll demand anything to live longer, prices go up. I won't go into a proposed solution since this is only the Reality 101 course for you.
Now to your "green economy"--your construct seems to allude to green economy as a big job producer. How's the marijuana your smoking? Obama's green economy prescription is the following: 1) put a punitive "cap and trade" (really cap and tax) mechanism is place to extract upwards of $2 trillion (that's trillion with a "T" Yvelaine) out of the economy. That happens children when business pass on the cost to consumers--you and I Yvelaine; 2) use a massive, corrupt, gov't buearacracy [let's let Barney (ballpark) Frank and Chris ("lying weasel" per the New Haven Register) Dodd run this buearacracy] to pick winners and loser in the green industry by heavily subsidizing them; and 3) heavily punish via regulation of oil, coal, and gas producers so their costs rise making the heavily subsidzized green energy "competitive. Some late-breaking evidence: DOE yesterday announced the suspension of all recently issue coal mining permits for "environmental review."
And now to your "stronger workforce to support aging baby-boomers": have you taken into account less people working from the combination of Obama's grotesque abortion policies (bound to reduce the population) and less folks around as well from the "efficient" healthcare program. Strike that--there actually will be less in the geezer population because of the government euthanasia program that this will entail so you may actually have a point there.
All in all, this is more than nuts! By your writing Yvelaine, I do detect an intellect. School yourself up girl.
P.S. I suppose you might be one of the voters who usually vote between the 40 yard lines (i.e., moderates) who voted for Obamanation based partly on his promise to "cut taxes for 95% of Americans." You may have seen the news that this vaunted tax cut ain't gonna happen. One word for all of you: SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the "95% of taxpayers" aren't going to get a tax cut (to you voters who usually vote between the 40 yard lines (
Rick Josey| 3.26.09 @ 9:34AM
For many Americans the "hard" choice will be to vote the liberal lunatics out of office next year. A course reversal, an admittance that these guys do NOT know what they are doing.
That's the hard choice many will have to make. For some of us it's a no-brainer. When a leader consistently lies to his people, he needs to go. And when his fellow liberals lie to the people, they need to go. Throw them out of office. Vote them out.
That's the real "hard choice."
And a no-brainer.
www.PatriotHangout.com
Scott| 3.26.09 @ 10:47AM
I'm sorry, "Socialist" is sooo yesterday.
Marxist.
winston bennett| 3.26.09 @ 12:44PM
we've always been at war with oceania. war IS peace. i'm bho and i'm here to help you.
peter| 3.26.09 @ 1:04PM
Government employees get $1,600,000,000 in pay bonuses and AIG gets $165,000,000. Should we be driving by their houses and seeing our tax dollars at work?????? Hide the boats and RV's!!!!!
Bob| 3.26.09 @ 1:27PM
JJ -- while I don't like Obama's budget, your tripe is just as bad as Yvelaine's. You have absolutely no substance in your post. Only the Limbaugh/Hannity nonsense to the uneducated right wing whackos.
Within education, did you know that Obama supports merit pay, vouchers, and the ability to fire incompetent teachers? Probably not. Obama's biggest problem in education will be the teacher's unions. Furthermore, no Republicans or conservatives are talking about entitlement reform. The only person who has mentioned that is Obama. Please go back to school and learn something before you post. Geeezzz...
Specifically, I have a problem with the way Obama is handling the bailouts -- I would not do them -- and his health care plan. But again, Republicans and conservatives have no alternatives.
Philip -- this whole budget thing is an Axelrod lead strategy to weaken Republicans/conservatives. Don't you understand that? It is absolutely brilliant. They are forcing Republicans to be the party of "no". Obama can say he is just fulfilling his campaign promises. No average voter understands the budget. But they do understand obstructionists.
The right strategy for Republicans is to develop specific alternatives -- not what they did today which is a two page summary of complaints. They need to set overall goals and STOP complaining. Right now, they are playing right into Axelrod's hands. Aren't there any good strategists in the Republican party.
For those of us who are fiscal conservatives who do understand economics and budgeting, there is absolutely no leadership. Eric Kantor is a disaster along with the other "leadership" in Congress. Rush and Hannity don't know enough to reach beyond their limited audiences. The talking heads on the cable channels just regurgitate the talking points. Isn't there any competent fiscal conservative out there who's as good at strategy as Axelrod?
donnie| 3.26.09 @ 2:17PM
Hey barry hows that teleprompter thingy working out for you. Now there is education reform working for you our Muslim president knows how to read.
Bram| 3.26.09 @ 2:42PM
drudge ette obama:
Great speech! Not much different on this side of the Ocean.
OR| 3.26.09 @ 2:44PM
Rick Josey writes, "When a leader consistently lies to his people, he needs to go."
Then tell my, why'd you vote for W. twice, you dumber-than-bricks moron?
El Wayne| 3.26.09 @ 2:44PM
BOB
"But again, Republicans and conservatives have no alternatives. "
"It is absolutely brilliant. They are forcing Republicans to be the party of "no"."
###############
Its lilly-livered pablum puking pukes like you who go a long way in weakening the greatness of this once great nation. What straw man arguments can you come up with next. I've seen your blogs for quite sometime and while you appear very articulate all your analysis comes down to nothing more than straw and cheerleading for Obama. Why don't you go hang out somewhere else for awhile. Being a party of no is infinitely better than what we have now....we're screwed in this country by fence sitters like you. There's one in the oval office now.
Anna Mac| 3.26.09 @ 4:00PM
Obamites, actions not words.
Osamas Pajamas| 3.27.09 @ 1:50AM
OhBummer's hijacker culture of greed-for-the-unearned is shining through the thicket of lies and deceptions that got him elected. At least the financial industry employees receiving bonuses are getting them as per their contracts.
OhBummer can show no signed contract wherein I hired him to make off with any of my money, whether by direct taxation or by his inflation or his costs imposed my regs or dumb-axx laws. He's just a thug --- so treat him the way you would any other thug. That'll be pretty, won't it?
Here's a clue---when he denounces the virtue of selfishness [read the book] and urges us to submit to "something larger than oneself," it means that his one hand is already reaching for your wallet, and the other is reaching for your throat, to throttle your protest. Throw this skunk from the train, boys.
Yvelaine Colas| 3.27.09 @ 3:50AM
Dear JJ JR.
You're clearly a very angry person with a profound belief in conspiracy theories, and I will pray for your emotional well being.
Most of your hysterical post isn't worth responding to but I will remind you that Brits and Canadians currently outlive Americans and somehow manage to pay less for the same meds that you take - and their doctors aren't controlled by some "Stalinist bureaucratic regime". Americans are also losing a lot of doctors because they're sick of malpractice insurance costs.
Life must be full of surprises for you, because clearly you are unable to see beyond your nose. If entrepreneurs were no more innovative and forward thinking in their attitude towards science and engineering, we'd still be riding horse carriages to to work.
Dai Alanye| 3.28.09 @ 11:29AM
So, if I understand some of the commenters here, Obama will raise expenditures to such a degree that Congress will be *forced* to reform the economy in order to save the nation from bankruptcy. It's an ingenious albeit indirect technique. The Obamanish brilliance of it astounds me.
Or is it , rather, merely an ingenious argument by those who are feeling some buyer's remorse about The One, but are not yet ready to admit they were mistaken about him and his teleprompter?
To speak seriously, however, my estimate of Obama's IQ (not to mention David Axelrod's) is steadily decreasing. Not a one of these people seems to know what he is doing in the economic realm. All their programs depend foremost upon wishful thinking, including the belief that you can continually bleed the productive among us with no negative consequences.
Whadaya think, can he pull it off through 2012?
danny| 3.28.09 @ 1:54PM
rick josey, i think the problem is that these guys do know exactly what they are doing.
Yvelaine| 3.28.09 @ 2:18PM
Obama Rules, duly noted - hope you have a pleasant Sunday service and happy hunting!
Alan Brooks| 3.28.09 @ 11:36PM
let's go on the 'record' (if there is such a thing) concerning Bush-- he was a failure, but is no longer to to be held accountable, as ex-presidents are protected; only Nixon was ever disgraced, however even he never lost pension or benefits. And, Ironically, being the son of Reagan's veep makes Dubya more protected in every way.
Besides, a president is not Commander in C. of the economy, POTUS is an economic figurehead, so neither Obama nor Bush can really be held responsible for the way the economy will or will not perform this year and into the next (only a total imbecile, a Gingrich, or a futurist [same thing as a Gingrich] would engage in economic projections for 2011 and beyond: factories haven't been retooled, wealth hasn't been created, etc).
and don't forget, the huge prescription drug program was instituted because you all have grandparents, too; which is why Medicare spending rose 51 percent under Bush and will certainly rise higher under Obama.
Alan Brooks| 3.28.09 @ 11:48PM
actually, there is no economy, there is only the actions of billions of people.
the economy isn't one 'thing'
Alan Brooks| 3.29.09 @ 12:20AM
technology isn't one 'thing'.
there are economies and technologies. plural.
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