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No Amnesty for Nadler
GET OUT
Re: Richard Nadler's Closed Door
Politics:
The smartest policy for Republicans would be to eliminate incentives to using illegal immigrants rather than enforcement. Incentives lie in the cash economy vs. legitimate business hires, which entails mostly Social Security/FICA/FUTA and government mandates. These are taxes on labor that make us less competitive. These taxes also tax labor for retirement benefits before the laborer can even make ends meet today.
Changing these taxes to some kind of national sales tax/internet tax/tax on undertaxed parts of the economy (legal and other services) would make more sense. Just like taxing unhealthy foods to pay for healthcare, under the guise of you get less of what you tax, makes more sense.
The economy has changed. Change the structure around the
economy.
-- Raymond Gore
Mr. Nadler may be the President of a Midwestern think tank. He is also a blithering idiot.
If the Republican party wants to ensure its minority status for eternity, all they have to do is take the John McCain stance on comprehensive immigration reform -- amnesty. That will assure that conservatives like me will avoid them like head lice. That is the primary reason that conservatives had to hold their noses in order to vote for the jack-ass in the last election.
The solution to the illegal immigration problem is simple. First,
build the fence and enforce our existing immigration laws --
strongly. Second, jail and massively fine any employer who
knowingly hires an undocumented worker. Voila! No deportations
needed!
-- Keith K.
Mr. Nadler makes the argument that we cannot push an enforcement-only agenda because that turns off Hispanic voters. I guess what Mr. Nadler wants us to do is exactly what we did in the mid-1980s -- i.e., look the other way and grant them all amnesty. So, how did that work out?
I have another argument, which the open-border/amnesty crowd like
you, Mr. Nadler, has conveniently ignored. The point that has to
be made to the Hispanic community is the same open borders policy
that allowed your cousin Jose or your sister Maria sneak into the
U.S. is the same policy that lets MS13 in to prey on your
neighborhoods, to enlist your sons into their gangs and to foster
violence and crime. For the sake of your neighborhoods the bad
guys have got to be kept out of the country -- and the way that
is done is through enforcement, not amnesty. Amnesty allows your
relatives to stay here; it also allows MS13 to stay here.
-- Garry Greenwood
Gearhart, Oregon
You are a fool, Nadler. Immigration was not an issue in last
election. It was the economy! But keep beating the drum for
liberal immigration policy and then the Republicans can continue
to flounder as a minority party.
-- James C. Fisher
What part of "illegal" is hard for you to understand?
Shouldn't you be writing for WSJ?
-- Robert Randall
Our nation is defined by its laws and its borders. Do away with these, and the nation ceases to exist. I’m not willing to surrender the sovereignty of the United States to get votes. As a sovereign nation, don't we have the right to say who can and can’t enter our country?
Then there is the economic factor. Through mass immigration, legal and illegal, we are importing poverty from the third world. There is no way that a poor peasant working for slave wages in this country can possibly pay enough in taxes to pay for his children’s education and his entire family’s health care and other social services. The Democrats are all too willing to provide freebies for them (at my expense), which is why poor Hispanic immigrants will always vote mainly for Democrats. If the companies that hire illegal aliens agree to pay all of their families’ living expenses, maybe we can talk.
If the Republican Party tries to get Hispanic votes by becoming
Democrats, what’s the point in that? What’s been accomplished?
The Democrats will have won anyway. The Republicans are better
off stopping the onslaught before it’s too late.
-- Dave Harris
St. Louis, Missouri
There are plenty of non-white, intelligent Americans who do not
support illegal immigration. Where is their voice? Get with the
program and understand that this issue is bigger than the usual
WASPS speaking as if they are the voice of America. Sorry, those
days are over.
-- F. Centeno
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frost| 2.25.09 @ 7:40AM
What fun. Reading the letters (which, so often, trump the articles/columns which initiated said letters) and thinking to one's own self, "gee, that sounds like a David Bonn letter," and scrolling down to see, yeah, sure'nuff, 't'was he. And the other eloquent guys, thanks!
I have missed Diane and Beverly though...
Appleby| 2.25.09 @ 7:54AM
The more I hear of ObamaBabble, the more I feel like a NA$CAR fan up in the bleachers, hot dog in one hand and beer in the other, watching for the Big Smash and the yellow flag so I can go to the washroom.
I am also remembering why I really do not like NA$CAR.
Pecos Pete| 2.25.09 @ 7:56AM
Amen to frost.
Alan Brooks| 2.25.09 @ 8:31AM
c'mon guys, dontcha know this a nation of immigrants?
get with the program!
frost| 2.25.09 @ 9:45AM
Right, Alan. And my grandparents came through Ellis Island about 125 years ago, legally. And my wife needed to get her Visa so she could come to America with her husband (she was from Sweden, and applied for citizenship about 4-5 minutes after being legally able to do so.....).
So, Alan -- your point was...?
Alan Brooks| 2.25.09 @ 10:25AM
my point is you guys are wacists!
you are wacially motivated! open the border up, let all our buddie-wuddies from sunny Latin America into America. get with the program.
Let the dam burst!
J.C.Eaton| 2.25.09 @ 10:53AM
Michael Tomlinson: Right on, brother. Of the witless monetary drains this nation participates in, none strum my internal tuning mechanism more gratingly than our perpetual european military protectorate. Uncompensated(the bastards don't even pay for our chow)'disrespected (never mind that they don't like us) and frankly, utterly unsupported(France can't even field (or maybe, float, a single carrier without rupturing their treasury). This pusillanimous collection of geographical parasites is busy self-destructing and we pick up the tab to protect them. From whom, I'd trow? The RUSKIES? C'mon' their tired old plutocrats are just trying to make a buck. As long as it's not getting my guys shot, why should we be more interested than their neighbors? Best, Judge E
Bob K| 2.25.09 @ 11:03AM
They are here because the "Trust Funders" need them to work in the small industries they still control. These 3rd and 4th generation "coupon clippers" are both Republicans and Democrats.
I live in Paul Kanjorski's congressional district. It has a long history of recruiting low wage industries in order to keep the local wage base as low as possible. The hispanics that settle here are from the Dominican Republic and from countries south of Mexico. (This can be confirmed by talking to the County Public Defenders-There are very few Mexican's here!) Mexico refuses to allow them entry there! The are, for the most part, half literate in Spanish and completely illiterate in English. The cost to educate their children in the local school districts is enormous. But they will work for $7.00 an hour without any benefits. Their wife's stay home with the children and get Food Stamps and Medicaid.
Kanjorski has a very gerrymandered, heavily Democratic district but he still lost in his home county, which bears the brunt of this hispanic invasion. I don't think that he carried his home town of Nanticoke! He carried the city of Scranton by a comfortable margin and the Pocono Mountain region, which has large enclaves of black voters who vote the straight democratic ticket and commute to work in Northern New Jersey and New York City. These areas are not affected by the economic consequences caused by the hispanic influx to the jobs and Real Estate markets in Kanjorski's home, Luzerne County.
Alan Brooks| 2.25.09 @ 7:08PM
lefties tell me 'latinos are so beautiful'.
but they wont seem so pretty later on when there are a whole lot more of 'em.
ruth| 2.25.09 @ 10:15PM
Geez, Alan, what's with you? So what do you propose we do? I know you're a smarty pants, so don't BS me, please. I am a fan of yours, you know.
ruth| 2.25.09 @ 10:20PM
It's hard to be civil when morons are calling you a white-sheeted nazi. Street fighters, indeed.
Alan Brooks| 2.25.09 @ 10:24PM
what do i propose, ruth? call National Guard out to the border until the boys from the mideast come home.
ruth| 2.27.09 @ 10:41PM
Good idea, Mr. Brooks! What about the illegals already here?
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