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Michael L. Hauschild| 2.5.09 @ 6:37AM

I can hear the conversion in the line outside the STD clinic. "It really isn't drugs, it didn't hurt him."

stu.b.con| 2.5.09 @ 8:54AM

Just an aside--Which drug is almost uniformly the introduction to marijuana?
Oops, no more cocktail parities?

nister| 2.5.09 @ 9:46AM

Smoking from a bong doesn't contravene any American law. Possession of cannabis is illegal; using cannabis is not.

Phelps' use should be an epiphany. Pot isn't harmful, else he couldn't have accomplished what he has.

Karcarius| 2.5.09 @ 10:08AM

Honestly,I just recently quit smoking pot after smoking it for years.And I have done other drugs but never got hooked on them because I was sensible enough not to go down that road for an extended period of time.I look at it from two standpoints.On one hand,I have no problem with someone hitting a bong once in a while.It IS relaxing.But on the other hand,kids look up to this guy as a role model.Whoever he was hanging out with that took that picture is not his friend.He worked very hard to win eight gold medals and he deserves to get high once in a while.But he also has to realize the having the international spotlight as he does now,the media is going to be all in his life for a long time to come.My only thing about this is that he should have been more discreet about it.But I of all people am not going to judge him on this,even though a lot of people will.And anyone who drinks shouldn't either because alcohol causes more death than pot does.

Mike M| 2.5.09 @ 10:42AM

The only explanation is Phelps must be a Democrat. You know if he was a Republican they would hound him night and day and call for him to be stripped of his gold medals.

Melvin| 2.5.09 @ 11:53AM

Ummm.. people, Michael didn't inhale, he thought the device was a flashlight and was looking to see where the on/off button was.
Simple mistake that could happen to anyone right?

Joe amato| 2.5.09 @ 11:54AM

Reid Collins, what a voice, as I remember.
http://www.joeamatoreporting.com/2009/02/this-week-in-world-apologies.html

Michigan-Matt| 2.5.09 @ 12:28PM

Mr Phelps rightly made a pr-centered apology to blunt any potential damage to his endorsement revenue stream; was it sincere, tho? He didn't do it because it was a good "role model move" for the sake of kids and students exposed to drugs... he did it because of money, his reputation and as a way to blunt the claim that he's out-ta control. And I'm sure his Mom's disgust with his behavior is a part of it, too.

I'd like to see him, apology accepted, now commit to 200-300 hours worth of community service to youth on the hazards of drug abuse. I'd like to see that happen before or even if he is brought up on misdemeanor charges in S Carolina.

That would help restore his reputation with the public, his fan base, consumers, sponsors and the parents of kids who had to explain to their 12 yr old boys who stayed up late to witness Mr Phelps' stunning 8th gold what a bong is and why Mr Phelps was doing dope... plus, it'd take that pr-motivated apology and prove that he is sincere, remorseful and repentant.

Yeah, it was dope. And it'd help society if Mr Phelps would begin by saying that dopes use dope.

Marc Jeric| 2.5.09 @ 2:23PM

Phelps is a swimming machine, but intellectually he is just a simpleton.

the-gunslinger| 2.5.09 @ 3:40PM

The person who took his picture and published it is guilty of invasion of privacy.

Other than that, this is a non-issue.

NotAFan| 2.5.09 @ 3:59PM

Young Mr. Phelps has the personality, and commensurate intellect, of a cabbage. While I applaud his apparent discipline, I couldn't value his endorsement of a product (who's paying him for what, anyway?) any less if he smoked celebrity crotch scrapings.

Alan Brooks| 2.5.09 @ 4:23PM

Nancy had the right idea-- just say no and you wont end up like the guy wearing beatle boots who came to dinner at our place in '66 and stared at the pattern on the tablecloth.

Tripp| 2.5.09 @ 6:02PM

Who really gives a damn? Honestly- bully for Phelps I say! Time to bring back the Barney Frank/Ron Paul bill and get this stupidity over with! People think prohibition is over and they're dead wrong- this can be a real plus for the Obama administration to stop the "war" on drugs, albeit it'll be one of the few upsides here.

Alan Brooks| 2.5.09 @ 11:12PM

...he talked about this Timothy Leary guy.

after dinner he polished the curtain rods for a few hours.

Dave Lincoln| 2.6.09 @ 12:26AM

"I'd like to see him, apology accepted, now commit to 200-300 hours worth of community service to youth on the hazards of drug abuse. I'd like to see that happen before or even if he is brought up on misdemeanor charges ..."

Wow, Matt, I don't know about Michigan, but it the US. of A, we have a right to a trial before any type of punishment. Well, I guess we mostly do, except for when the government takes your car and house during a drug raid, and gives you a receipt.

You would fit right in at the DEA, Michigan Matt, you and a whole bunch of other Jack-booted thugs. Civil rights don't become you, from what I've seen on your other ridiculous posts too.

The drug war will end, along with other silliness, like the global warming/cooling/Don't-really-know-but-I-think-it's-changing crap, Amnesty for illegal aliens, etc. once the depression starts in earnest. At some time, America will lose it's tolerance for this crap, or the Chinese will already have kicked are butts, one.

As for Phelps, if he would just stand up like a man, and say, "I'll smoke it when I want to..." I would be his biggest fan and even buy some wheaties myself. Oh, and I had not heard till now that this arrest was in S. Carolina - home of the biggest party school of all time in the 1970's. Go Cocks!

sloane| 2.6.09 @ 2:09AM

Regardless of one's position on marijuana and whether or not it should be legal, I think that this incident drives home the fact that the most effective and fitting endorsements for Phelps to make are ones more properly aligned with who he is as a person (taking the young age and high chance that he will likely be involved with what will at least considered uncouth by man).

Dr. Tantillo, who has a marketing blog, made the point that "Honesty is the most important aspect of any personal brand." and suggests the following approach to managing Phelps' brand (his agency, Octagon, is definitely in need of a few pointers):

"...reinforce that he is basically a good guy who has overcome many challenges (and still struggles with a few) and is still young. He can even speak more openly about the challenges of living with ADD (which can help educate and also help explain his occasional gaffes)."

Full blog post

john| 2.6.09 @ 2:15AM

Phelps is a little slow up stairs. American is already "dumbed down" just look at what we just voted in as POTUS! Now all we have to do is get more people stoned and the Marxists can do whatever they want. Why do you thing the USSR has the highest alcoholism in the world -- state sponsored.

Michigan-Matt| 2.6.09 @ 7:40AM

DavidLincoln, in response to a suggestion of self-imposed 200-300 hrs of community service by Phelps, "Wow, Matt, I don't know about Michigan, but it the US. of A, we have a right to a trial before any type of punishment."

Of course you didn't DavidL.... of course, you also don't comprehend the notion of atonement, the notion of self-imposed service for redemption, prejudicial diversion or lots of other things given the balance of your "comments". Those thoughts are beyond the reach of your bong pipe zippo lighter, no?

I don't know about where you live, DavidL, but in America even idiots like you can express their opinion -whether it's informed, wrongly held, or just stupid. But try not reminding all here of your stupidy, ok? It harms the currency of your opinion.

My hunch is that you're not really all that angry about Mr Phelps atoning for his indiscretion, are you. It's a straw argument from you.

Your REAL offense comes with the line "Dopes use dope"... and in that statement, you see your own indictment. Yeah, DavidL, dopes use dope -including the vogue trend of "medical" dope.

No jack-booted, anti-liberty, Whiskey Rebellion metaphors needed for you, DavidL. Dopehead gets you nailed --literally and figuratively, too. And that's your REAL rub or friction; not some fake concern for Mr Phelps' reserved right to a fair trial... which, frankly, if Mr Phelps did as I suggest, he'd likely never have to endure.

Dope is for dopeheads.

Randy| 2.6.09 @ 10:13AM

Phelps is an immature goofball. If he couldn't swim he'd probably be an unemployed college kid. He can perform all the goofy apologies he wants but if he broke the law he should pay a penalty - again - thank you Mr. Escalade dui. Hopefully there's some clean cut kid out there that will eat Phelps for lunch in the next Olympics, then Mr. Hero can retire with all his pot head friends.

Dave Lincoln| 2.6.09 @ 1:57PM

For Michigan Matt:

Yes, you obviously don't understand the rights we have in this country, and you don't deserve them either. Maybe you should be made to atone for your "hate speech" (another BS idea that I don't believe in) right now, before any kind of trial. I think you should go into the local schools and scribble "I am a dope leftist" on the blackboard for 200 hours yourself. See, Matt, I'm being faceteous (sp?) here, but my point is that no government agency has a right to inflict punishment for a crime you have not been convicted of - yet that is what enlightened Michigan Matt recommends!

Damn, to think 10's of thousands of American patriots died for ideas in the 1770's that current Americans can't even understand! It's sick.

Go put your app in to the DEA, Michigan Commie, and for Reid (the author): You've got some points about the role model business, and wheaties, or whoever, has a right to fire the guy, but get off your high horse. Mayor Bloomberg is coming for you next, Reid - it will be your cigarettes, the trans-fats in your fries, now it's salt. what's next?

If you people want to elect Nannies to high office, why don't you just call them that? Obama for National Nanny, Bloomberg for New York Nanny, Matt for High Nanny of Michigan.

(and I don't even smoke dope - doesn't do me a bit of good. If I want my freedom back, it's gonna take guns. I have plenty of em.)

Joe| 2.6.09 @ 2:50PM

Oh no, someone famous did drugs. I've never heard of such a thing. I'd say we should stone him, but I guess he stoned himself. Could you imagine the outrage if one of our presidents did something like this? Oh wait....
Bill Clinton, Pot... Bush, DUI - maybe Coke... Obama, pot, coke...

ciriticofthepolicestate| 2.6.09 @ 11:09PM

"Drug Enforcement officials, doctors among them, tell us that hard addicts captured by heroin and/or cocaine almost uniformly got their drug introduction via marijuana. "

Since when did correlation always equal causation? This "fact" is meaningless! If that's the "I gotcha!" in prohibitionist propaganda, I can expect to see weed legal soon.
Keep those logical fallacies flowing!!

SpeakingFromExperience| 2.7.09 @ 8:01AM

Not to step into the middle of an uneven battle between Michigan-Matt, who's right on this issue by the way, and David Lincoln who seems to be fighting to preserve his access to pot and the illegal activities that promotes, I have to side with Michigan-Matt.

He wasn't saying it's some state agency "right" to force Michael Phelps into "punishment". And I think David Lincoln knows that but David's argument fails unless he can mislink it to a greater issue like innoncent until proven guilty.

The issue here was accepting Michael Phelps' apology, Phelps proving he was repentant by voluntarily --that's V O L U N T A R I L Y David Lincoln-- doing community service.

I agree with others here: for all those parents who let their impressionable younger kids stay up past bedtime to see Michael Phelps do something extraordinary and for Phelps to work hard to capitalize on that very success and fame, means he ought to be held to a higher standard of personal conduct... including not being a public dopehead, doping up on chems for athletic enhancement and so forth.

David Lincoln, like Michael Phelps, sounds like he's more interested in rationalizing his own illegal conduct than in watching out for what's best for society.

What a self-serving dolt and dopehead. All the flag waving rhetoric doesn't cover up that simple, unavoidable fact.

Righteous Bubba| 2.7.09 @ 1:34PM

(No, Sally, all of us haven't done it, and didn't do it in college, either.)

Well do it and get it over with for god's sake. I'm uninterested in pot but the anti-drug mania seems a lot like the anti-gay mania and we know what the truth is behind a lot of the latter.

Dave Lincoln| 2.7.09 @ 3:04PM

For SFE, I just got done writing that I don't smoke pot - hence, I don't need access to pot. Read my post, before you comment. Just a little reading comprehension can go a long way.

As far as Michigan Commie goes, I've got to apologize that I read "committed" when he said "commit" as in:

"I'd like to see him, apology accepted, now commit to 200-300 hours worth of community service to youth ...." So, if he means voluntary, that's fine, but usually "community service" in this day-and-age does not have it's old meaning of just service to the community. It has the connotation of forced work by a gov't agency. None of this can negate the fact that MM is a commie, however, as I've read his posts before. I will give him kudos for reading the articles on The Spectator.

If you people, including the original author, think that a role model super-athlete smoking pot is a big deal, then you may not be able to handle the real problems coming to an America near you, namely: Great Depression II (not from the dope, I'm talkin' economy here), Political correctness/hate-speech laws morphing into major violations of amendment I, gun confiscation, possible illegal immigration amnesty, etc.

I am not worried about Michael Phelps smoking out of a bong. Quit trying to be nannies, people, as I wrote before. We've got real problems that are going to take men to solve, not nannies.

Michigan-Matt| 2.7.09 @ 4:21PM

DavidL, just because you're caught in your own perpetual immaturity doesn't mean that society has to suffer willy-nilly stupidity from people (stars or athletes) who make a living getting people to buy into their successful career, athletic accomplishments or public celebration of their noterity.

Frankly, we also don't need idiots and dolts like you taking this Nation's great history and founding principles, turning it upside down and re-making it into a neat, convenient excuse for your use of dope, driving drunk, engaging in public sex or rioting after a college sporting event. Right, we just bet the founders would be concerned about someone holding Mr Phelps to account for his fundamental lack of judgment? Not.

Good God, DavidL, if we didn't have people like you perpetuating your adolescent nonsense with some bogus, strawman argument about the coming nanny state MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, we've have people acting responsible, exercising prudent judgment and not smoking a bong at a college party after arriving at the party "wired, blotto and flying high".

Look, you & Mr Phelps can do whatever you want inside the privacy of your home and your booogieman of the hypothetical "nanny state" won't bother you for a second. Engage in dopehead antics. Drive around your property drunk. Don't use protection with those hookers. Eat a dozen donuts each morning and wash it down with MountainDew... anything you want, DavidL.

Just don't procreate. Gauging from the reaction of some in this space, we already have enough idiots with stupid ideas to last society a lifetime.

By the way, nice dodge on the "I don't use dope" fiction... but your offense was too radical and visceral to my line about dopeheads using dope. Yeah, you're a user; it's that whole "nanny state", "jack-booted thugs", "DEA" monsters line that nails your sorry butt to the wall of truth.

But nice dodge, anyway... I think Speaking from Experience bought the dodge.

But not any one else.

Defend Mr Phelps for his transgressions and utter, sheer stupidity. I guess you guys have that in common, too.

Michigan-Matt| 2.7.09 @ 4:25PM

Final note, DavidLincoln, as for your silly line that it'll take real men to solve America's problems, not nannies... that kind of thinking ignores society's interest in protecting our youth from the hazards of dopehead antics.

When you finally get to be a real man or father, you might learn how important that is to building a strong family, strong neighborhood, strong community, strong America. Til then, I suggest you keep the adolescent immaturity in check and refrain from infecting society's important debate on these and other topics with your nonsense.

Patscholar| 2.7.09 @ 10:09PM

It seems there are a large number of bong and/or other drug users on this site now. Go get loaded again, you can't write, you can't think, you can't communicate a rational idea except lets all go out and get stoned. It is immoral pussies like you who voted Obama in as our President and I hope you have to suffer mightilly for it - Since we taxpayers are going to with hold our taxes this year, let's see how well you can starve to death. Phelps is a total deadbeat. All of his contracts should be dumped and he should be ruined financially and in every other way. My nephews started smoking pot at 12 and by 15 had graduated to heroin which they used for over 20 years, stealing a fortune from their parents and their grandfather. Neither one of them can hold a job and even after years in rehab they still have to take methadone. Drugs are a very serious problem and people who use them have no idea how dangerous they are. We don't need any more rationalizing pot heads coming onto this site and supporting drug addiction.

Dave Lincoln| 2.7.09 @ 11:18PM

Hey Michigan Commie, I'll pee in a cup right now and show you - just give me your email address - I'll attach it and send it off! You're bordering on libel, young man, but, secondly it doesn't help your argument to just call the other guy a doper, stoner or whatever. Commie, however, is valid, as it applies very well to your attitude.

You have no idea of what freedom means, Matt, and your bringing up our founding fathers in this is sickening to me. Read a bit about Jefferson, Franklin, Madison, etc. What they understood about freedom, and their reasons to lay their honor, fortune and livelihoods on the line, is obviously unknown and not knowable to you. None of them would have believed that the US Federal gov't has any power to regulate anything a US citizen can smoke, eat, drink, etc., though that does not apply to the states (depends on their individual Constitutions and laws). Now it's light bulbs. Where did those fine gentlemen put anything about regulation of light bulb in the US Constitution. I must have missed that whole paragraph.

For both you, Matt, and Mr. Patscholar, you really seem worried about the image of this athlete, and others, and it's affect on kids, but what you need is better parenting. With good parents, children (like the 14 and 15 y/o) mentioned, learn to think for themselves and not believe everything from their peers and the media, and especially government school teachers (actually, the worst of the three). Get your kids away from the TV - in fact, get yourself away from the TV - you may not know who Phelps is, though, but who cares?

Oh, why does the above poster (who probably calls me a stoner, because he also cannot comprehend a free society) think I would possibly vote for Obama, or McAmnesty, for that matter. I voted for the only conservative running, who is a fairly unknown (unfortunately) preacher from Florida named Chuck Baldwin - of the Constitution Party.

"We don't need any more rationalizing pot heads coming onto this site and supporting drug addiction." Remember, one more time, belief in freedom != belief in drug addiction. I'm sorry about your nephews, but obviously their parents failed as parents. Maybe you should have helped!

Dave Lincoln| 2.7.09 @ 11:28PM

"Right, we just bet the founders would be concerned about someone holding Mr Phelps to account for his fundamental lack of judgment?"

Yes, they would be concerned about Mr. Phelps, ..... if they were Nazis! The good thing is that are founders were not, which people may have appreciated for 150-200 years, but not so much anymore.

I said before, this county's got some serious problems to worry about. Many of the Spectator articles discusss these, others are just fun pieces, but Mr. Collins (in this case) is wasting his time (and mine too) with this one, in my not-so-humble opinion. I could watch Entertainment Tonight to see this crap, but I don't, seeing as I've been off TV for 10 years or so. I expect better from Reid Collins.

Michigan-Matt| 2.8.09 @ 12:06PM

DavidL, I can appreciate why you've "been off TV for 10 years" --just from your incoherent commentaries, it is abundantly clear you have your own special alternate reality for entertainment. Maybe that's good?

But that alternate reality is not one our founding fathers would recognize... put down the militia comic books and end your lifetime subscription to "Hemp National", ok? Your read of American history and the founding fathers is so flawed and, frankly, juvenile, that it's pointless to continue to instruct you on why Mr Phelps doing 300 hrs of community service voluntarily isn't violating his fundamental rights.

I appreciate your self-inflicted "need" to worry about bigger things... I guess that's why you've spent so much time on what you think is a trivial matter? Or is it more likely you're blowing smoke on that point too... just like with your offense over my line: Dopeheads use dope.

Hey DavidL, it was a rhetorical question. No need to reply.

Dave Lincoln| 2.8.09 @ 12:36PM

I've got no problem with Mr. Phelps volunteering to do community service (again, you've got to read the whole post and work on your comprehension a bit), but I would not respect him at all for doing that. Go up there and read my 3rd or so post, mmmkay?

"No need to reply. " Oh, I'll reply alright. It does feel like a waste of time, because you are one of the many Americans who are truly scared of freedom. You should lighten up, just as Mr. Collins ought to lighten up on Mr. Phelps and even on the media (in this case,; normally I'm no fan of the MS media, as I have clearly stated).

Talk all you want about comic books, dope, etc. I am not familiar, really, but it sounds like you are.

"I guess that's why you've spent so much time on what you think is a trivial matter? " Hey, you're the last poster, haha, so maybe you should hang it up, if it's that trivial. Don't speak for me, buddy.

What you failed to comprehend (again, it all comes down to your reading skills, Matt - they need work) is that I feel that the subject of Mr. Phelps smoking pot is a trivial matter. I think the War On Drugs is not a trivial matter. If you want to learn more about the War On Drug's effect on the US Constitution you could do no better than to go to Radley Balko's site TheAgitator.com (the guy Balko is an idiot on immigration, however, but a real trooper and a crack reporter sometimes when it comes to the abuses of power related to the War On Drugs). If you're not careful, you might learn something!

Appleby| 2.9.09 @ 7:08AM

Back in the 1970s a really good young rising star of a hockey player named Don Murdoch was busted as his New York Rangers team crossed the border on a bus to play the Leafs in Toronto, with a significant stash of pot in his suitcase. He admitted in the aftermath (which included the end of his meteoric rise as his team booted him forthwith) that he believed hockey players never got searched.

And this was in the era before everyone over the age of 8 carried a camera phone.

Apparently Forrest Gump Phelps believed the same bushwah (as does King O obviously) that when one is a Celebrity, one can do as one pleases and no one will ever say NO NO to one again. Au contraire. When one is a Celebrity (or Rock Star is the common cliche) it means no matter what one does, someone is there with a camera, and within minutes everyone knows what you did.

Speaking From Experience| 2.9.09 @ 1:48PM

David Lincoln, you have got to get out more; rhetorical questions don't require an answer.

As for us reading for comprehension, you've got the problem, not us. You were the one who didn't comprehend Michigan-Matt's point about voluntary community service and instead went off the deep end about "the right to trial before punishment". I think you've got the serious reading comprehension problem, not Michigan-Matt. His position on Michael Phelps sounds reasonable to me.

You were the one who commented that there are far more important matters for "real" men to be concerned about, not this matter. And then commented and commented and commented and then commented some more.

With all respect, it is you that has the problem(s), first and last.

Stepping over your problem(s) for a second, the real problem is still with Mr Phelps and the media. Earlier in the scandal, Phelps said his sponsors are his friends and they've stuck by him and it's like a family. Yesterday, after learning that some sponsors were dropping him and more than a few fans were troubled with his conduct and post-revelation conduct, Phelps said it's times like this that prove who your real friends are... as in, let me do what I want... talk about self-centered juvenile dopehead antics.

I don't think Michael Phelps gets it even now.

These sponsors are not his friends; even if they send him a birthday card, gave him gifts or whisper sweet nothings in his ear. It's a business, baby. A business relationship. They hired him as a spokesman, as a indicator of a product's value.

Phelps made a bad choice to act irresponsibly. He was imprudent. His sponsors aren't required to stand idly by while stupid does Stupid with a capital "S". And with David Lincoln's comments, neither do we have to stand idly by while Stupid does more Stupid.

Michigan-Matt| 2.9.09 @ 7:49PM

Speaking from experience, I agree that it seems as though Mr Phelps still doesn't get the "it" in "get it yet?" Much like some of the pro-dope dolts here who defend Phelps' actions by offering us the lame excuse that "everyone does it".

It's also surprising how many apparently sane, law-abiding people on this site can condone the use of dope by a nat'l sports figure as being a minor thing... but I'm guessing these are the same type of people who dismiss the threat posed by them slowing down and gawking at the scene of a highway accident, rail against police when they enforce the traffic laws of their state and get mad at everyone but themselves when they've screwed up their taxes and learn of an impending audit.

It's all about "blame the other guy" in order for them to get the heat or burden off their own shoulders -where it rightly belongs.

Mr Phelps still doesn't get it. Was his apology sincere and heartfelt? Was it matched by some signal of remorse and atonement? Should we believe that he'll learn from this mistake --unlike the little he seemingly learned from his drunk driving charge a few years ago? Why does the press give him a pass? Is it the Obama-effect: whereby coke use is suddenly socially acceptable for the mainstream?

I still think Mr Phelps ought to have come foward with some voluntary community service effort --specially targeted to young athletes, young students on the perils of drug use.

Of course he won't. The last thing he wants, now that he seems to have escaped any sanctions by governing sports authorities, is to keep the story the alive. Guess what? Each time I see him step up to the edge of the pool, I'm going to think "dopehead" and we'll be changing the channel in our home.

Shame on USA Swimming for not taking a stronger stand... and letting Phelps get away with nary a handslap. But I guess it's tough to stab the golden calf that's revolutionized swimming for the US of A.

Dave Lincoln| 2.9.09 @ 10:01PM

"David Lincoln, you have got to get out more; rhetorical questions don't require an answer. "

Dude, I know what rhetorical means. I just can't get through to this guy how minor a deal this is. I indeed apologized for my mistake in reading "commit" as "committed", but that's not the major gist of the article or Matt's silly posts naming me as an alleged "doper".

Let the guy lose his Wheaties contract, fair enough, but this is just not any news worth caring about.

I think both of you need girlfriends. I just can't spend so much time trying to get some common sense across to a nitwit or two.

Adios.

Michigan-Matt| 2.10.09 @ 6:55AM

DavidL, for someone who assidiously (yeah, go look it up in your pictionary, dewd) denies having the time to post again and again and again and again and again on such a minor, trivial, meaningless, unimportant matter as this... dewd, you gotta get a better act!

And the last time I look, perpetually juvenile dopeheads and wanna-be white boy suburban skateboarders were the last ones still using "dude". And you have the gall to call folks nitwits here after posting YOUR childish nonsense promoting a FreeHemp Society of dopeheads and drug abusers?

BTW, kid, I already have a girlfriend: her status is wife. Grow-up, junior.

Dave Lincoln| 2.10.09 @ 7:31AM

I don't have any links for you for the WhiteSuburbanSkateboarders.com or HempSociety.com, Matt. You should look at some of the new articles on spectator instead of assuming strange things about my lifestyle. It happens, that I am probably older than you - I am guessing by a few things that you have written here in addition to your lack of understanding of freedom that I have seen in your posts to previous articles.

Don't assume so much, read some agitator.com or Vin Suprynowitz (spelling may be wrong), columnists for the Las Vegas paper (www.lvrj.com/columnists/ look for Mr. Supr. there). You may learn more than you wanted to, but it's be good for you.

Again, there are new articles up top, check out, especially, the financial stuff, a la: http://spectator.org/archives/2009/02/10/last-ten-recessions-predict-la

Good day.

foo foo wing wang| 4.15.09 @ 4:10PM

Yeah, this is really stupid.

How does one get so bent out of shape over this, and not show any feeling towards the influence of someone like Lil' Wayne?

So infrequently do most of you old timers consider how you and your children are bombarded by marijuana culture at all times. Pick up a Rolling Stone, easily accessible at most local and school libraries. Go to the mall. Turn on CNN! Who cares? It's all the same. I've known so many people who have gotten high in church basements (think your kids don't know them?). Do your kids ride a school bus? Do they read? Do they go to school? Are they of the human persuasion?

This is a silly issue. People smoke pot. Did Phelps ever sign anything that said he wouldn't smoke pot? I seriously doubt it.... :-/ Maybe???
It isn't like it could be considered a performance enhancing drug either (unless you take into account its respiratory effects) .

So what's the real issue hear?

We're Americans, and we feel lied to.

We expect Mr. Phelps to be some stand up guy just because he's the best at something. Because he's an athlete, and athletes are very valuable to America! He's an American Athlete that is showing the world who we are! .....and that's important.

But the media is showing the rest of the civilized world who we really are. A bunch of up tight conservatives who continuously care to waste our time on things they've long ago stopped caring about! ....and trust me, I know some of you are thinking, "Yeah, but I don't want to live in a clean country with less violence, and more sustainability like those goofy people in Europe."

Well just suck it up, tired of typing, screw this. Can't believe I got so riled up.

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