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The Limbaugh-Hannity Administration

By Jeffrey Lord on 2.3.09 @ 6:08AM

Like Walter Cronkite, conservative media stars fight an economic Vietnam.

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And so back to today.

Be careful what you wish for, goes the familiar warning. Too late liberals are going to learn this lesson of life yet again. Having gloried in the role Walter Cronkite played in bringing down a president and in changing the course of American history, liberals are suddenly aghast at the realization Rush Limbaugh and his friend Sean Hannity -- as powerful today as Cronkite was in 1968 if not more so -- could have in slowly but surely impressing on Americans the idea that Obama and his party are setting the country up for an economic Vietnam. A quagmire that threatens to mire generations of Americans in an endless jungle of debt and poverty generaled by bureaucrats, lobbyists and left-wing activists.

One other interesting aspect of all this. In the aftermath of his broadcast against the war, Walter Cronkite was quietly invited to lunch by Senator Robert Kennedy in RFK's Senate office. Kennedy was on the verge of announcing his own candidacy against LBJ but had yet to do so. Cronkite, of course, pulled aside his mask of objectivity and encouraged him to run. But there was something else on Bobby Kennedy's mind that day. According to Cronkite himself, writing years later, Kennedy looked the anchorman in the eye and said: "We want you to run for the Senate this year." "We" meant the Democrats in New York, where Republican Senator Jacob Javits was up for re-election. Demurely, Cronkite declined.

This was, in retrospect, a very significant moment in terms of where we are today. All by himself, sitting in front of his camera in New York, Cronkite had made a serious negative impact on the major foreign policy of a sitting president. More of an impact, certainly, than most U.S. Senators of the day could muster. In other words, in a "race" between the power of a president and that of a television anchor, the TV anchor had at least as much clout. Perhaps more when it came to Vietnam. Certainly Walter Cronkite the anchorman had very much more clout than a potential Senator Walter Cronkite.

This point is even more obvious today. The recent shenanigans involving then-Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich pondering the appointment of Oprah Winfrey to the vacant Obama Senate seat is but one case in point. Even Blago found himself realizing that for Oprah to go to the Senate would in fact be a step down. In today's world, certain media figures have at a minimum as much influence as a Senator or Governor -- and even the president at any given moment. The other evening Fox's Greta Van Sustern asked Bill O'Reilly if he was thinking of running for the U.S. Senate in New York in 2010, a question that O'Reilly quite correctly answered by noting that he had a bigger audience than most Senators.

This is true of others in the media as well, with conservative talk radio stars like Mark Levin, Glenn Beck and Laura Ingraham far outstripping the clout of a great many elected politicians. Which is, of course, why liberals are determined to silence them all with the "Fairness Doctrine" or a laughably deceitful call for more "localism" in radio.

Why does President Obama single out Rush Limbaugh? Why has he attacked Sean Hannity? Because a long time ago Walter Cronkite demonstrated in vivid fashion exactly what is possible when a popular and trusted member of the media successfully opposes a president's program. It is surely true that even Walter Cronkite could not know exactly what he had unleashed on that long-ago February night 41 years ago.

But unleashed the power of an anchorman now surely is. It wasn't supposed to be this way, of course. If he had understood at the time the forces he was letting loose on the American political scene, Walter Cronkite would surely have wanted those forces directed by liberals. ABC News anchor George Stephanopoulos clearly has taken up the spirit of Cronkite, apparently having been caught quite nakedly plotting daily political strategy with his Clinton pals in the media and White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel. (Will Stephanopoulos be fired for such an obviously gross crossing of the line between being an "objective" journalist and a wild-eyed political partisan? Nahhhhhhhhhhh. You kidding? The only problem here is he got caught.)

Liberal domination of the media in the modern world didn't work out quite the way it was supposed to.

Which is why President Barack Obama knows that unlike President Lyndon Johnson, he cannot afford to sit quietly and just ignore the man who is quite effectively his opposite number in the media. LBJ publicly ignored Walter Cronkite even as he understood in his gut exactly what Cronkite's opposition meant not only for his policies but his own re-election. Failing to take Cronkite on, LBJ lost both his presidency and his Vietnam policy. Obama is clearly not going to be quiet as his policies are picked apart in lacerating detail by the man who is, in effect, the heir to Walter Cronkite.

The President knows that the biggest threat to the success of the Obama-Biden administration -- even when they get legislation passed the way they want it -- is the opposition by what is effectively the Limbaugh-Hannity administration. So Obama does what he has to do: he attacks.

Americans simply cannot "just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done," says the new president.

Wanna bet? It worked for Walter Cronkite.

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About the Author

Jeffrey Lord is a former Reagan White House political director and author. He writes from Pennsylvania at jlpa1@aol.com.

Letter to the Editor View all comments (111) | Leave a comment

Appleby| 2.3.09 @ 6:44AM

Keep talking guys. The more the lefties cry, the better you are doing.

Rocco| 2.3.09 @ 7:01AM

Who in the HELL does this Whitehouse punk PBO think he is? Presuming to dictate to anyone what he or she can listen to. The longer this a** sits in the Oval Office, the more evident his arrogance becomes. And if the Republicans succumb to this, then they are more stupid, cowardly and craven than I even imagined. Amazing. Simply amazing. I would challenge any of these punks to dictate to me, to my face, what I can listen to, read or watch - they would without a doubt win a no-expense paid trip to an orthodontist...

Right on, Appleby, the more they scream, the better a job Rush & Co. are doing!!!

Ryan| 2.3.09 @ 8:46AM

I'm glad we still have Rush around. I know Sean Hannity means well, and he does his guest portions well, but the call-in parts from Joe Average are well-nigh unbearable. Hannity has a tendency to over-simplify at times. I'm worried that Rush has no real successor at this point (though Glenn Beck has the tongue-in-cheek portion down that Rush has turned into an art form).

I often wonder if Rush's critics ever REALLY listen to him...because they take him WAY too seriously at times. Rush doesn't - he seems to have more fun behind the microphone than anyone else.

Robert Rosencrans| 2.3.09 @ 9:00AM

Perhaps, Obama should have phrased the question another way, i.e., "Who is listening to Obama?" It's evident that the Obama Administration has gotten off on the wrong foot.

So far, we have a Secretary of Education who doesn't know grammar, a Secretary of State who dodged a bullet on getting indicted for lying in Travelgate, a Treasury Secretary who can't handle his own finances, an Attorney General who runs a terrorist fan club, and a proposed health czar in Tom Daschle who calls for higher taxes, rallies against tax cuts, all the while avoiding paying his own taxes to the tune of $128,000.

At the same time all that is progressing, the Washington Post revealed that the Obama Administration, contrary to what they promised, has two high ranking administration officials who happen to be lobbyists. When Robert Gibbs was questioned about it he responded, "Sometimes you have to bend the rules."

The Obama Administration is drowning in it's own hubris, launching Alinsky Rule Number 13 attacks against anyone who points out the obvious, while spreading cynicism throughout the land.

At least we won't need a cynicism bailout.

Gill O'Teen| 2.3.09 @ 9:05AM

Nor can we overlook one of the main reasons I like Rush. He's honest. I'm certainly not going to learn the truth listening to such as Communist News Network or reading the New York Times. O-bum-ah does not like the truth. He's so dang smart, he surely knows that if Americans had been told the facts about his background, Hillary would have been the Democratic nominee. But he had something she lacked - scores of media groupies. And unless our few ramaining conservative voices keep doing their job, we will simply be lied to, or worse not be told, what the heck is going on. Just consider the ho-hum attitude of so-called main-street media towards the most saintly President in History appointing a tax cheat to head the IRS.

Michael Roush| 2.3.09 @ 9:06AM

So Jeffrey Lord thinks that Mr. Limbaugh and Mr. Hannity are the next Walter Cronkite. Nice fantasy. Tell me Jeffrey, did Walter Cronkite have a right wing opponent who convincingly broadcast an opposing point of view every night "uncle Walter" was on? Limbaugh and Hannity do. Their names are Obermann and Maddow. You think President Obama is afraid of Rush Limbaugh? He is merely trying to define the Republican Party as the party of Rush Limbaugh, thereby ensuring that the GOP will be a minority party for a long time. But for real spectacle, none can beat Tina Fey who, simply by quoting Sarah Palin's own words, made her the laughing stock of the nation. Well, most of the nation. The Limbaugh/Hannity crowd were told that she was a serious candidate and the dittoheads dutifully agreed. And then, there is good ole David Duke......

Rocco, you flatter yourself. Do you seriously think President Obama cares who you listen to?

Flapjack Johnny| 2.3.09 @ 9:17AM

Olbermann and Maddow? Two losers who can barely attract an audience are a counterbalancing force? Funny man.

Anthony| 2.3.09 @ 9:33AM

Jeffrey, Thanks for mentioning Mark Levin and Laura Ingraham. For my conservative money, they are the true intellectual heavyweights in the talk radio movement. Levin is razor sharp and does not suffer fools lightly. His analysis is lawyerly and cuts to the chase. Laura is just as sharp, with a slightly softer edge. With all due respect to Rush, I'd love to see Levin or Laura in the noon spot. I'm afraid over the past years, Rush has become all to consumed with himself and is not the same guy he was 10 yrs ago. Sorry Rush, please don't read this upon your return from holiday next week.
P.S. Mr. Roush, it's you who's the laughing stock. Fey made up lines that the MSM and leftist fools, such as yourself, attributed to Gov. Palin. But simpletons such as yourself would most certainly fall for Tina Fey over what Gov. Palin was actually saying. It's what living in an alternative reality does to some people.

J David| 2.3.09 @ 9:41AM

I clearly remember, at about the age of six-seven, watching my father - a patient, likeable fellow to all who know him - rage at Cronkite on the evening news. He used to call him a "Pinko" and a "commie"(about which he was right, as far as I am concerned), and nothing else political, even Watergate, got him stirred up like Commie Cronkite.

I began reading political material around 10-11 years old, probably as a partial result of his animated interaction with Cronkite broadcasts. The first book I remember reading was "None Dare Call It Treason". I shaped me into the "black helicopter" fearing conspiracy theorist I am today...and much of it it coming to pass...

Michael Roush| 2.3.09 @ 9:47AM

Anthony,
You're wrong as usual. Sarah did use Palin's own words to devastatingly funny effect. By the way, do you know Rocco? You dudes have much in common. Especially your anger. But it is the angry ravings of the lunatic right that makes this site so entertaining.

Jeremiah| 2.3.09 @ 9:58AM

Rush Limbaugh's job (which he, refreshingly, expressly states on a weekly basis) is to attract advertisers to his show.

He sells you to sponsors.

This a good -- a great -- thing. He entertains you, and people pay to advertise their products in between times, during "obscene profit" breaks.

Nothing could be better.

However, these are not the conditions under which good, sound, thoughtful, responsible public policies are generated.

It's just not how that works.

Limbaugh's preferred mode is one of exasperated or baffled disbelief or just plain cynicism. His sarcasm and his ad hominem attacks are great radio, but they're lousy, unreasonable political discourse.

If he's your intellectual leader, and your party is to continue to be the party of Rove and Cheney, your future looks bleak.

Mike M| 2.3.09 @ 10:09AM

Hey, even Archie Bunker rightly called Cronkite a communist.

leastofthem| 2.3.09 @ 10:13AM

Does anyone else question why Hannity and Fox had to resort to using neo-nazi Andy Martin to produce a special program last year on the supposed radical associations of our new president? Nazism is as far right as you can get folks and many of the smear tactics that the conservative shock radio personalities pass along to each other passed through this filter.
Follow the link below to watch the new press secretary Robert Gibbs confront Hannity on his show a couple of months ago. Hannity tries to make it sound like Andy Martin was only a guest on the show to provide a different opinion. Classic Hannity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgn6rjGbp0c

Steve| 2.3.09 @ 10:18AM

Jeremiah:

With all due respect: ....*good, sound, thoughtful, responsible public policies are generated*..... Good God! Yes, and the tooth fairy will leave money under your pillow.

Here is a reality check for you: the left are simply plundering, pillaging pirates (love the alliteration!) ...any resemblance of their activities to good, sound, thoughtful, responsible public policies are purely coincidental. The fact that you actually believe their (or any politician's) motives to rise to that level is frightening. Read some history, my friend. Discover why those who love liberty view politicians as pestiferous scum.

Dustoff| 2.3.09 @ 10:27AM

leastofthem

Nazism
+++++++++++++++++++++

Do you even understand what it means?

Back to school fool.

Grzmlyk| 2.3.09 @ 10:43AM

Would that Rush could effect such change for the right as Cronkite did for the left. But even with his 20 million listeners - who no doubt overlap almost entirely with Hannity's and Levin’s and Ingraham’s (I am a prime example) - those legions aren’t enough in the face of an otherwise monolithic and deranged media and the willingly gullible electorate who have elevated Obama en masse to the status of Messiah.

Despite Rush’s protestations to the contrary, conservatism has lost in the arena of ideas. The fact that the arena itself has been tilted at a 60-degree angle to the left by a rabidly tendentious media is an asterisk posterity will ignore, because the State/Media Complex will airbrush out of the picture the undesirables who had the temerity to stand up for individual liberty.

As Obama said of the inefficacy of increasing capital gains taxes, efficacy is not the issue; “fairness” is. “Spreading the wealth” is. (Not the wealth of fat cat Democrats, mind you; after all, they DESERVE their opulence and in any case the real money is in the great, unwashed and easily-duped middle class and evil corporations.) If you think this idea hasn’t gained purchase, talk to anyone under 30 - the future establishment. Talk to anyone under 40; hell, just talk to anyone you meet. To these “enlightened” and “caring” souls, any disagreement with Obama is tantamount to burning a cross on the White House lawn and it is simply axiomatic that government, that pristine exemplar of moral courage and evenhandedness, should be the Decider of All Things Great and Small. All Hail Bureaucracy.

Rush is not powerful enough to overcome the sclerotic-yet-still-formidable nexus formed by ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/MSNBC/PBS/MTV/New York Times/L.A. Times/Chicago Tribune/Associated Press or their accomplices, our craven politicians. And a special place in Hell is reserved for feckless “Republicans.” I fear that the unanimous vote against the construction of the Obama Transcontinental Pig Trough is likely the high-water mark of Republican principle for the duration of the Obama administration. Aren’t they rolling over for his corrupt, retread cabinet appointments? Mitch McConnell said what about Tom Daschle yesterday? Oh, that’s right – they belong to the same club. And he’s one of our more “principled” guys! Oy.

We have decided as a country that socialism is the way to go. I spoke to a middle-aged attorney just yesterday, an Obamaphile still giddy with the Great Man’s Capacious Greatness (and still luxuriating in the absolution he received from the Original Sin of Racism by voting for a black man!!!), who actually wants us to model the United States after Western Europe’s post World War II example! Isn’t that like saying, “Since I respect law and order so much, I am going to model my behavior after Charles Manson”?

And now we have a supposedly charismatic and Oh-So-Brilliant leader (though I have yet to see any evidence of the luminescence that even conservative pundits – excepting our radio hosts – have lavished on Obama) to complete the cult of personality and swing for the totalitarian fences. All we have to do is repeal the 22nd amendment and Obama can be president for life! How great would that be? How cool would that make us look?

We are sheep cheerfully sauntering toward the slaughterhouse, gazing lovingly at our collective reflection in the mirror of pop culture and patting ourselves on the back for our Great Goodness all the way – right up until the axe falls.

And fall it will. And so will America. It’s over, folks.

Me? I’m studying the Koran and thinking of informing on my neighbor. Rumor has it he’s a filthy capitalist.

Ah, that’s better. I’m feeling like a victim already!

JJ JR| 2.3.09 @ 11:08AM

Y'all,

I'd add the Conservative Warrior Princess Monica Crowley to the mix--she's opposite Hannity from 3-6pm. The girls tenacious and she's got a lot of pluck. Ain't bad lookin' either if I may be so politically incorrect.

JJ JR| 2.3.09 @ 11:19AM

To Grzmlyk: Wow dude-I believe we're at a tipping point. You are saying we've already tipped and there's no reversing this. Maybe . . . .

I'm worried that you may be out on a ledge reading that Koran of yours. I believe you need to take two Halcyons--their in big blue capsules and are aptly named. Call me in the morning.

macdaddy| 2.3.09 @ 11:49AM

Obama just made a liberal knee-jerk comment to try to goad Republicans into rolling over for him. I'm sure he's heard it a gazillion times from his pals and accepts it as the conventional wisdom. What he doesn't realize is that if he doesn't get the economy back on its feet, Rush is the least of his worries.

Jeremiah| 2.3.09 @ 11:51AM

Steve --

Well, you certainly do have your principles of Limbaughism down.

In the world of right wing radio, politicians are indeed "scum" (except when they're not).

No need to devote even a second of thoughtful gratitude that you enjoy more political liberty than 99% of human beings that have ever lived; no need to reflect on the fact that ultimately politicians are answerable to the people who elect them; no need -- God wot -- to even once in your life think it possible that some politicians in both parties are moral and even intellectually brilliant people of integrity. No need ever to consider that things may be done some different way: no need to imagine that shouting down your opponent, or making fun of the way he looks, or attacking his character might not be the best way to exchange ideas.

Lucky for you, all you have to do is be the one that has the microphone -- or at least content yourself with the fact that you will always agree with the one who has it.

Why take a chance that someone might threaten the ideological membranes? Why imperil the explanations and narratives and templates that you've come to rely on with actual conversation?

See -- above is evidence of it. I'm just a commie liberal who hates my country, right?

Jeremiah| 2.3.09 @ 11:57AM

And why would it be so hard to consider the possibility that people who attend the best law schools, and have so much power, and talk like they know it all, and nod solemnly when their opponent makes a good point -- and all that -- why, I ask, would it be so hard to admit that they're not all necessarily "scum"?

There's something to be discovered in the psychology of the reactionary in this question. Pursue it.

grzmlyk| 2.3.09 @ 12:22PM

Hello JJ JR:

I hope I'm wrong, but then I read the news every day and talk to ostensibly intelligent people. Not a lot to be encouraged about.

By the way, if we move to National Health Care, it'll be about 4 years before I can even see a doctor to get a prescription for the Halcyon.

Viva Social Justice! Viva Equal Outcomes! Viva Moral Vanity!

leastofthem| 2.3.09 @ 12:25PM

I know it was a long long time ago (2 months) but lets not forget it was the Bush administration that nationalized the banking and auto industries and pushed through a 350 billion emergency package much of which went to bonuses for management. President Obama just inherited a 10 trillion dollar debt and two wars and you say he's off to a bad start? Well, yeah!!!!

aware| 2.3.09 @ 12:28PM

Jeremiah..."I'm just a commie liberal who hates my country, right?"...no, you are just another conformist being deceived by cynical, professional politicians in their quest for power. Just a tool of the State. If government is so full of these "intellectually brilliant people of integrity" then why are we in the current mess?
I know, Bush the moron. But now we have a much better group, huh? Tom Daschle, Tim Geithner, Nancy Killefer...tax cheats. Eric Holder...pardoner of tax cheats. Bill Richardson...ethics investigation. Just a few so far, but the list will grow as skeletons tumble out of closets. Do you really won't to put yourself in the position of cheerleader for latest group of perjurers?

Anthony| 2.3.09 @ 12:30PM

You can tell how affective Gov. Palin was/is, and the extent to which she instills such fear with the Mike Roush's of the angry left, as well as those lefty media elites, by measuring the inverse reaction of their hate and venom towards her. It makes for an extraordinary psychological study of their instant vitriolic reaction towards this woman, kind of amoeba like, don't you think? P.S. Mikey, Rocco is far more read and articulate then you will ever be, in two lifetimes, if you're actually read his posts, and yes, Sarah did use Palin's own words, duh!! it's Tina Fey that made them up. Now go outside and play in the snow with Jeremiah.

L. Ross| 2.3.09 @ 12:33PM

Jeremiah:
There is something to be said for a good education. However, we on the right often mock people who graduate from the best law schools because we are so unimpressed with the product they produce. Just like Rush's "mind numbed robots", these law schools take sharp high school graduates, and turn them into like minded, elitist, liberal do-gooders.

Consider it pursued.

Jeremiah| 2.3.09 @ 12:39PM

Aware --

How am I a tool of the state?

Being able to size up the relative ability of politicians includes being able to see that some of them are people of extraordinary talents.

Now. Why are we in this mess?

Aware, you live in a free society. Government can only do so much. It's weird that in the end liberals actually have a far more realistic view of government's limitations than reactionaries, who unwittingly seem to idealize the state.

The mess we're in is largely something that just happens to markets. Bubbles, busts, recessions -- up, down. That's the way markets work.

The government can help, up to a point. Targeted spending coupled with certain kinds of business tax cuts spur economic activity that at the very least prevents the recession from getting worse and protects the most vulnerable people from the worst consequences.

I don't know what else to tell you. Our government is elected to power. They serve regular terms of office. Election day comes at regular intervals.

Rush always tells you what you want to hear. Politicians can do that for a while, but eventually they face the voters.

It's democracy, my man.

You want cleanliness, work for fascism.

Pat| 2.3.09 @ 12:41PM

Well at least we were spared invoking fond memories of Edward R. Murrow and - news flash - it's not 1965 anymore. Cronkite reigned when there were only 3 television networks, rabbit ears, families nightly grouped around their single box listening to Father Cronkite.

Today, in addition to this excellent website, there are many, many options for tuning in and hearing the truth - or at least hearing an alternative to the current administration's propaganda. The question is: So What?

And how much has the blessed sacrament of Free Speech actually changed our lives? We've reached the point where two barbarian hordes periodically sweep through our nation, killing, looting, raping and then departing. We are either the willing or unwilling victims of the Mongol invasion of Washington every few years, after which they depart and are replaced by Attila and his Huns. Neither band of reavers brings good government, their purpose is to first subdue and then loot as much as possible.

We have thousands upon thousands of laws on our books at present, so how many more laws do we actually need - even within a highly technological society? Our supposed need for new laws and their accompanying lawmakers has degenerated into an excuse to trade laws and regulations for favors, clandestine bribes, post term-of-office lobbying jobs, influence peddling, book contracts, speaking engagements, etc., etc. - all with the goal of amassing personal wealth for the politicians and their supporters. The current "Stimulus Package" is only the latest, and greatest, example of Genghis Khan style politics.

Conservatives should re-examine their vision of our nation and rethink what they actually need to survive under the barbarian hordes with a modicum of freedom and financial security. Rush has had a long and glorious run but what difference has he and his various imitators actually made within the reality of our political and economic system?

Jeremiah| 2.3.09 @ 12:45PM

L Ross --

Really. Tell me, how many Yale or Harvard law school graduates do you hang out with?

Of course there are fools in the bunch. Fools flourish in all walks of life. It's one of God's great mysteries.

However, many of the people you are talking about have first rate minds and are capable of excellent reasoning.

Of course, this is NOT to say that only they are capable of good reasoning.

We've all known brilliant, wise, capable people with no formal education at all. There's wisdom in the people, an old saw goes.

But listen, comrade. All that stuff about the "liberal elite" you hear from people is just a lot of cackling of crows. I'm around university professors and lawyers all the time. In general, they are thoughtful, critically astute, articulate, interesting, people to be around. They tend to be curious about opposing views. They attended really great schools and did well there because they like to learn. They don't just deduce every opinion for three or four "principles."

Listen: you don't have to tell me what ignorant, arrogant, intolerable jerks people like this can be, either. I know, believe me.

But writing them off as a group smacks of envy and resentment.

Appreciate people for what they are. You'll be happier.

Anthony| 2.3.09 @ 12:46PM

Grzmlyk: Brilliant posts!! Especially you're first. My compliments.

Grzmlyk| 2.3.09 @ 12:53PM

Thanks, Anthony. I appreciate it.

fourfivesix| 2.3.09 @ 1:05PM

"deranged media and the willingly gullible electorate who have elevated Obama en masse to the status of Messiah."

That is too funny! It was the right wing radio shows that labeled Obama "the anointed one and the messiah, all for the purpose of alarming the evangelicals. Another failed strategy like the Operation Chaos. You people have been played by your radio "leaders".

Cam| 2.3.09 @ 1:09PM

I can't scream it any louder! Wake up people! The libs are a plague... perhaps even the pod people... So insolated from reality, you can't get through to them. You can berate them, yell at them, ridicule them, but to no avail. You can't get them to listen to any sense, even if you punish them. You can't impact any of them. They are beyond reason, or sense, or intellect. They are controlled by their own invited and nutured insanity.

Or perhaps we're the stupid ones who continue to converse with them, thinking that conversation and debate is acutally effective with such that are habitually numbed, torpid, comatose and deeply possessed. Give it up, people. No matter how hard you scream at a potato, it won't listen. So, we must all calmly but determinetly just stop listening to their guile and narcissism. Deny them access to your minds, to your children's minds, to any position of authority. Through the history of their failed projects, they have continually proved that they are self- and other-destructive...., people of the worst sort, theives and robbers that pray on the innocent without remorse. Stop talking to them. The only thing that will kill such venomous monsters is withdrawing our attention, our understanding, our compassion from them. In reality libs are rabid animals that will not be civilized or quieted, their disease has rotted any semblence of remaining senscient. We must turn them aside, and like the vectors of hatred they are, remove them from our midst. Since they have long since sold out their own humanity, they wickedky only appear human. They remain pale reminders of a sickness that is spreading among our people, and they should be treated like the contagious disease they are.

Griff| 2.3.09 @ 1:16PM

Jeremiah,
I've had more than one Harvard grad working for me and they all say basically the same thing: The hardest part about Harvard is getting in. The coursework is no more rigorous than any good "state" school (such as the one I attended). Judging from the majority of their contributions and the quality of their work, I have to say that I'm unimpressed by their academic credentials.

oldpapajoe| 2.3.09 @ 1:16PM

Rush has a big staff that most of his analysis. It's his style and belief in Conservative ideas that most of like. And, he is funny. Sean is a nice guy, but not a deep thinker--really a light weight. Laura and Mark Levin, as someone else noted, are the future intellectual types of talk radio.

leastofthem| 2.3.09 @ 1:21PM

"The libs are a plague, they have long since sold out their own humanity, they wickedky only appear human."

Yes, what ever you do, do not get them wet or feed them after midnight!!!

Robert Rosencrans| 2.3.09 @ 1:32PM

Someone posted this pearl of wisdom: "It's weird that in the end liberals actually have a far more realistic view of government's limitations than reactionaries, who unwittingly seem to idealize the state. "

If that's true then why do almost all liberals idealize the state, condemn free markets, and seek only to enlarge government?

pickupsticks| 2.3.09 @ 1:35PM

oldpapjoe, I've heard that Rush has a tiny staff. And that's coming from Hannity who works out with Rush at the same gym.

aware| 2.3.09 @ 1:41PM

I know I'm wasting my time but here goes...we are in the mess we 're in because the Federal Reserve inflated an artificial asset bubble(housing). The Fed also destroyed the incentive for saving by making vast sums of tax payer money available to banks at 0% for loans, making deposits in banks unnecessary(even counterproductive). Thus turning us into mere consumers. The boom/bust cycle is a result of misallocation of resources at the behest of government policy.

I could go on but you should be getting my point...the government caused this. And with all these "intellectually brilliant people of integrity" leading the charge. But we should trust them, huh.

"It's democracy, my man"... well no it's a republic and you should really find out the difference. Democracy is only a transitional step toward totalitarian dictatorship. Mob rule.

You are a tool because you have no skepticism toward power, which means that when they do hand out the brown shirts you'll be in line not me. Ask yourself this, why do they leave office(if they ever do) so much wealthier than when they came? It's cause they know something you don't.

Michael Roush| 2.3.09 @ 1:47PM

Anthony,
I can always count on you to be amusing even though your thoughts are never original.

clashseeker| 2.3.09 @ 2:03PM

Jeremiah, these " brilliant" people have lost my respect and confidence. After 40 or 50 years, it seems clear that this pedigree of ivy league, chattering class glib, and all the rest of it are not a guarantee of achievement. To put it another way the people the MSM, and all the others in the liberal machine are not I declare the best and brightest. They are the last ones I would want leading in a real time of catastrophe or , or severe challenge. I'd take Petraeus , the CEO of Fedex, RudyG, the deceased hollywood guy Crichton and so many others over all of them.
And, by the way, Limbaugh and that crowd are not my maximum leaders. I feel so bad for those of you who believe these VOTEKILLERS are our way back as a party. Bull, focus group any of them anyplace in the nation, besides a small group of dwindling counties. By the way Jer fess up, you're a trial lawyer. correct ? Only a trial lawyer would think these smooth talking bullshit artists are the best and brightest.

Alan Brooks| 2.3.09 @ 2:08PM

Jeremiah doesnt like Rush's ad hominem attacks.

for once the demented fascist liberal (read Goldie's "Liberal Fascism" losel-- not lozel -- weasel is correct.

grzmlyk| 2.3.09 @ 2:12PM

Hey, fourfivesix:

I deal with folks in two separate (and uniformly liberal) industries every day for whom NPR is The Word, The Light and The Way. It sure looks to me like these erstwhile agnostics and atheists are convinced the Savior has been Delivered Unto Them just as surely as the only evil in the universe they perceive is Bush/Cheney/Rove.

Did you happen to catch, oh, one percent of the coverage that traditional media outlets gave Obama in the election's run-up? Even the Washington Post fessed up. I guess fish aren't aware that they're wet either, but on election day I saw so many beatific (and ultimately self-congratulatory) smiles, and heard such hymns of Change and Hope, and endured such liberal sanctimony, that I really don't know what else to call this phenomenon (except The Big Con).

On second thought, I guess you're right. Sure, you folks on the left think He walks on water, is utterly infallible, wholly omniscient, will deliver you from Original Sin and, of course, Shall Bestow His Blessings Upon the Meek by turning the Water of State into Wine.

What the heck was I thinking in referring to him as the Left's Messiah?

Anthony| 2.3.09 @ 2:17PM

Really Mikey? If anyone else suggested you were amoeba like in your reaction to Gov. Palin, and that you and Jeremiah should take advantage of all this AGW and go play in the snow, my apologies for stealing their material without attribution. Hmmm, maybe I have what it takes to become Vice-President some day!!

fourfivesix| 2.3.09 @ 2:20PM

Hey, I stand by my post. The terms Messiah and The Anointed One came directly from right wing radio and were calculated to stir up fear in the evangelical community.

Grzmlyk| 2.3.09 @ 2:32PM

Yes, and the fact that he really IS the messiah is purely coincidental, eh?

Anthony| 2.3.09 @ 2:40PM

grzmlyk: From a theological perspective, now that Obama has cleansed America from the Origional Sin of slavery, who will perform a similar epiphany for all those Middle Eastern and African nations that still practice it, after lo these many thousand of years? Oh wait, then I guess that doesn't make it just America's Origional Sin after all, does it? Wow! this theological stuff sure gets confusing. No wonder Algore flunked out of divinity school!!

fourfivesix| 2.3.09 @ 2:47PM

Wow, Limbaugh's power of persuasion is stronger than I thought. Good luck Grzmlyk, you're going to be miserable for the next 4 years.

grzmlyk| 2.3.09 @ 2:55PM

Well, the Original Sin of Slavery is America's burden alone, haven't you heard? All the other countries that practice slavery can be forgiven because Dick Cheney's ancestors made them do it.

As for misery, fourfivesix, as long as the Messiah spreads your wealth around and not mine, I'll be fine. If you can't get into heaven, maybe a tony DC cocktail party with disciples George Stephanopolis, Tom Brokaw and Chris Matthews would suffice.

Alan Brooks| 2.3.09 @ 3:06PM

Rush isnt president-- Oprah is.

Oprah is practically God.

Marc Jeric| 2.3.09 @ 3:15PM

There is an ignoramus here who called the Nazis "extreme right". The full name of Hitker's party was "Deutche Nazional-Sozialistische Aebeiter Partei" - translated "German National- Socialist Workers Party". Right wing?? No, Sir, a real revolutionary socialist workers party! In other words, far left.

ConservativeAnchor| 2.3.09 @ 3:49PM

There is a difference. Walter Cronkite was a journalist. A journalist is expected to report the news factually, accurately, and without partisanship.

Rush, Sean, Mark, and Glenn are talk show hosts. They can say what they want and suffer the ills of bad ratings, if they upset the apple cart.

Jeremiah| 2.3.09 @ 4:13PM

Aware --

The economic problems we're now experiencing are indeed related to housing, but there is a great deal more than that going on.

The housing "bubble" is something that "liberal" economists like Paul Krugman have been descrying for years.

If you step back and ask why people are so over-extended, why wages have stagnated for so many people over the past three decades, why two people working full time have a hard time affording a modest house when one person working full time afforded a house for our grandparents -- then, you start entering an interesting territory of questions. Joining Sarah Palin in blaming everything on Frannie Mac and Jimmy Carter just won't cut it with me. Sorry.

Now, markets do boom and bust. That's what they do. Government doesn't cause this very basic principle of capitalist markets. (See ... Adam Smith, et al)

And yes folks, reactionaries idealize the state. That's why reactionary talk radio and web sites are dominated by such an angry, resentful, cynical (all politicians are scum) tone.

Reactionaries are statists who are disappointed.

By the way, it is fine usage to characterize our political system as "democracy."

The essence of western modern democracy is this: that leaders are elected on set days at regular intervals.

That's it, comrade. That's democracy. It's true, our government itself is a democratic republic, but the overall political system is called "democracy."

Jeremiah| 2.3.09 @ 4:46PM

Marc Jeric

Hitler used the term National "Socialist" as a means of attracting young, unemployed, alienated men to the movement, men who were often already involved in trade unions or similar kinds of political organizing.

So, he appropriated the word "socialism," but there the similarities largely cease. He didn't pretend to be a socialist, he didn't like socialists or socialism, and, by the way, he legitimated World War II as a war against socialism.

Robert Rosencrans| 2.3.09 @ 4:51PM

Hitler controlled the entire government, he was a dictator, so, in fact, he was a socialist. More food for thought. Hitler himself claimed to be a socialist. Someone has been reading the wrong history books, or they are simply an Alinskybot.

http://jonjayray.tripod.com/hitold.html
Although Hitler himself claimed to be a socialist, this claim seems normally to be totally ignored. Evidence in support of the view that he was in fact a vociferous socialist is reviewed. The essence of his popularity with Germans appears to have been his combination of two very seductive policy themes: socialism and nationalism. He thus stole the emotional clothes of both the Left and the Right. The implications for present-day German and Russian politics are briefly explored.

David Govett| 2.3.09 @ 5:20PM

Sure, Limbaugh is bombastic, but when bombast is backed by a formidable intellect and scrupulous attention to detail, it becomes persuasive, at least to those still open to argument.

clashseeker| 2.3.09 @ 5:40PM

What is driving up the cost of everyday life for the average folks Jeremiah ? Social conservatism ? Try those lawyers and academics who are part of your daily circle jerk. Then throw in the cost of government. The low to no productivity, zilch accountability, zero common sense government. And yes, the blow hole of dollars burnt on bad immigration policy that is the holy grail for your crowds future electoral prospects. I could go on, the non energy energy policy. Give me a break you and your job killing , take home pay killing lunatic left pillagers.

Jeremiah| 2.3.09 @ 6:03PM

Robert Rosencranz --

I hope I'm not the first person who's ever said something about this to you, but, internet websites are probably not the best place to get historical information.

If you want a great study of Hitler and the Nazis, I'd stick with the classics.

Start with The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, by William Shirer.

Hitler was most emphatically NOT a socialist, nor was his government, nor was anyone remotely related to the Nazi movement.

I know this is a huge disappointment for many of you, who long for nothing more than to make the case the political liberals are in fact Nazis, but this is just a question of plain old history.

Clashseeker --

So ... the cost of living has gone up because of university professors and lawyers?

If you actually look at the numbers we're talking about, you'd be able to see pretty easily how silly your post is.

Wages stagnated in the 70s, largely as a response to the globalization of capital. I assure you your kid's anthropology professor had nothing to do with it.

Nice try, though, I guess. But try not to be so ordinary in your resentments.

Alan Brooks| 2.3.09 @ 6:29PM

reactionary is just derogatory for conservative, jeremired.

what i just dont get it is why libs come here so much, when there are so many lib blogs.

Robert Rosencrans| 2.3.09 @ 7:18PM

Jeremiah: I'm not about to get into a good book bad book hat dance with you. The fact is that Hitler was a dictator. Do you know what a dictator is? Dictators seize or control all means of wealth, that means they are a socialist or a communist. Hitler, even according to the book you quoted, proclaimed himself as a socialist.

By the way, who set you up as an authority on anything? You're just an anonymous poster who proclaims yourself a genius on every subject. Look up the term megalomania. It describes you to a T.

Michael Roush| 2.3.09 @ 8:00PM

Alan Brooks,

Why do libs visit this site? The entertainment value, my fine fellow, the entertainment value.

Hannah| 2.3.09 @ 8:03PM

How can you possibly be a fan of either Limbaugh or Hannity when all they do is bully people? Do you really think that insulting others is okay? Or do you just not realize that Limbaugh and Hannity insult people endlessly on their shows?

midge| 2.3.09 @ 8:34PM

robert rosencrans,
hitler called himself a LOT of things. should we trust him on all those counts? we are talking about the modern king of propaganda here; i'm just surprised you're buying into it even with the advantage of hindsight.

since you seem to respect "internet history" more than well-respected books written by actual academic scholars, take a gander at wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party

"The Nazi Party is generally described as being at the extreme or far right of the Left-Right political axis however in two dimensional models, such as the Political Compass (where left and right are described in purely economic terms), the Nazi Party's stance is ascribed to the economic centre.[5]"

Carl Davis| 2.3.09 @ 9:02PM

RE: Robert at 9:00 AM

Google Saul Alinsky Rules For Radicals. This is exactly how Obama ran his campaign and will run the country. Look at http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/8925/alinsky.htm Hannity wonders why Obama keeps mentioning his name - look at Rule 12 "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

Anthony| 2.3.09 @ 9:19PM

....But at first he did not sense any importance in the German Workers' Party. He went to its meeting because he was ordered to...."It was entitled "My Political Awakening". To Hitler's suprise, it reflected a good many ideas which he himself had acquired over the years.....Drexler's principal aim was to build a political party which would be based on the masses of the workng class but which, unlike the Social Democrats, would be strongly nationalist..... Adolf Hitler was then and there enrolled as the seventh member of the committee of the German Workers' Party... In the course of his speech Hitler enunciated for the first time the twenty-five points of the program of the German Workers' Party...... he considered all the points as having been adopted and they became the official program of the Nazi Party when its name was altered on April 1, 1920. pgs 35-38 , 40-41 "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" It appears Jeremiah, that Mr. Rosencrans is correct, and you, once again, are wrong.

Alan Brooks| 2.3.09 @ 9:40PM

entertainment value, Roush?

cant libs get their rocks off somewhere else?

Alan Brooks| 2.3.09 @ 9:45PM

Rush uses no more ad hominem attacks than Jeremiah does. and Jer is a demented weasel, a losel. a cad. Hannity isn't as bright as Rush but is very solid.
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btw Oprah IS president
or so she thinks.

leastofthem| 2.3.09 @ 10:04PM

You got that right. Hannity is not the sharpest knife in the drawer but at least he has that incredible sense of humor. And yes he's solid, but I think Limbaugh could take him if challenged to a Sumo match.

clashseeker| 2.3.09 @ 10:12PM

Jer. narrow minded Jer. Jer of the stale unventilated brain. Jer who feeds his mind the same old same old day after day. As an ordinary guy struggling to pay tuition for his kids, I have learned the growth rate in cost for college exceeds just about everything else. College is an overpriced commodity. And, like the government full of wastefull spending. You go to college for a credential, not an education. And a huge percentage of students resent the political brainwashing.Graduating and starting out life with a huge loan is a drag on our economy. As for lawyers, once again you betray the narrow range of your mind. Since lawyers are part of the democrat political machine a curious minded person would understand the MSM, and academia treat them as heroes. One hand washes the other with your crowd. You need to go outside your limited information and knowledge imputs to gain a fuller idea of how lawyers are doing damage. For openers try the books of Philip K Howard, begin with The Death of Common Sense. But, you won't. You already think you know everything, just like many snot nosed adolescents.

Jeremiah| 2.3.09 @ 10:41PM

Clash --

By sacrificing so your children get a good education you are doing the right thing. College tuition is an outrage. I agree with you there. Believe you me, it's not going in professors' pockets.

Robert --

Listen, bud. Hitler was a dictator, but he didn't control the means of production.

Fascism is its own form of government. Here is its characteristics:

1. Fascist governments are militaristic. They use wars to consolidate politics at home.

2. Fascist governments typically use mass media and propaganda to demonize a minority group. They also devise nameless enemies within that are always seeking to "stab their country in the back".

3. Fascists devise what is sometimes called a command economy. The government uses the wealth producing power of markets to further its own ends. It's not a free market, but it is also not a socializing of the means of production (what is called socialism in political economics).

4. Fascists of course use typically also use fear and bullying tactics to maintain power -- like using technology to spy on their own people.

clash| 2.3.09 @ 11:02PM

Jer ? So where is it going ? That is the point ? Is Obama aware that Al Gore made no sense before congress with his energy plan ? We who have given up on the MSM find an analysis where ? Here courtesy of William Tucker. That is why we have stopped depending on the MSM. We get no answeres to honest questions anymore. They are pushing an agenda. So your an underpaid professor I gather ? Quit being a baby, start a hedge fund.

cicero| 2.3.09 @ 11:28PM

Walter Cronkite>> Was duped in Vietnam about the realitiy of situation there. HE should be kicked under the bus with all those that fabricate stories in the media.

cicero| 2.3.09 @ 11:33PM

PEOPLE >
Wake up to the fact that USA is now a Socialist Dictatorship ( Obama-Reid-Pelosi) The Democrats are attempting to muzzle all who disagree with their thoughts/concepts. Your voices are being stiffleld.
Cicero

ruth| 2.3.09 @ 11:50PM

Jeremiah and Roush, why aren't you blogging on the Tom Daschle post on AmSpec? Even you two can't spin the stupidity and incompetence of 'The One'. I can see what an Ivy League education has done for your Community Organizer-in-Chief. Every nominee is more corrupt than the last. No wonder Dummocrats like to raise taxes--they don't pay any!

Rocco| 2.4.09 @ 6:05AM

Roush, you are a flippin' moron; it's libtards like you that provide the entertainment value of this site. You don't know me from the man in the moon, so how you get off making the personal statements that you do on people who do not agree with your stupidity is simply amazing. Anger??? From me?? Not by a long shot. I read your drivel and laugh my a** off. You need to get a life, pal.

Rocco| 2.4.09 @ 6:07AM

Secondly, if I were angry, you wouldn't want to see it. It's not a pretty sight.

aware| 2.4.09 @ 6:43AM

Jeremiah...fascism is a leftist political ideology(check in with Mussolini). How can you say that though Hitler held the power of life and death over every person in his control, he had no control over the means of production? I'm afraid it is you who has a selective reading of history.
Hitler actually called himself an arch-democrat, a true man of the people.

This ties nicely to my main point, which is that the size and scope of the State is always the indicator of ideology. Communism, socialism, fascism, and Nazism all have the State as the ultimate decider of all things. This is at the heart of Leftism going back to the Hussite revolt in Central Europe and continuing through the French Revolution into the ideological wars of the 20th century. The closer you get to absolute State control the more pure the brand of Leftism.

If you don't like the fact that all this leads to mass murder then don't seat yourself on the same side of the political aisle but don't try to say that these are not Leftist ideologies when they clearly are.
By supporting the growth of the State you show yourself to be an unwitting tool. And don't fool yourself into thinking that our State, when it's big and powerful enough, won't end up doing the same thing. It is the very nature of the State, even ours.
It was said by One who knows all that government will " draft your young men into the army to run before chariots, take your fields and crops, make your young women to work the fields and make accouterments of war..." no one has ever said it better since.

Hannah| 2.4.09 @ 8:36AM

Any reason why any of you guys haven't responded to my comment? It seems like you're purposefully ignoring it, which really makes me wonder if you're even able to answer the questions I asked in it. Care to give that a try?

Robert Rosencrans| 2.4.09 @ 9:25AM

Food for thought. Here was another historical figure treated like a god.
http://www.shoaheducation.com/hitler.html
Furhrer as Lord
While some may joke about the word 'fuhrer' with a raised hand and a German epithet, the term meant more than what is often translated 'leader'. The word is more akin to our word, 'Lord'. Our word 'lord' has two meanings: one meaning someone who is the head of something or someone and the other means the Lord in heaven, or God. The word "fuhrer' carried the principle of an ultimate leader, and the whole system of the Nazis was based upon a hierarchy in which there were 'under-fuhrers' (unterfuhrer) and 'over-fuhrers' (oberfuhrers)(Nazi Officer Rank). As time went on, the Nazis nutured a sense of divine power equated with Hitler: in the beginning, propaganda pictured Hitler AND God, and by the end, Hitler/ "der fuhrer" AS God. This distinction is critical to understand why so many followed Hitler in blind obedience.. Ley, in an early speech to Germans noted the divine inspiration of the Fuhrer and that following Hitler was equated with following the divine. It is also clear from the notes of Eichmann and Goebbels, that complete obedience, unquestioning in nature was to be given to "Der Fuhrer". Like some mythological deities, Hitler's half Birthday was celebrated, and his birthday became a national holiday. Both were aligned with occultic holidays. (See Nazi Beliefs.) The 'deification' of the role of fuhrer was in line also with the idea of the "Third Reich" {Dritten Reich} as a grusome parody of a 'messianic age' in which a German Messiah would lead Germanyin to a utopian era. The idea of this 'divine leader' arising was also in line with German mythology and folklore. The Nazis played on this theme by keeping Hitler in separated fashion, occasionally addressing mass rallies, or even shaking hands in a crowd, but 'exalted'. Many speeches were directed at the exalted role of fuhrer, for example:

The Führer is always right!" They may ask: "How do you know that?" You will answer: "I believe it." "And who tells you that?" "The Führer is always right. I sense it. I can prove it from the successes of the past, the things this man has done. He rose from a lowly worker and soldier to the Führer of Germany." If you persuade the people of this, that the Führer is always right, then our people's sacrifices will never be fatal, but will only make it harder, stronger and greater. If cowardice and unreasonableness have been defeated, if the people are confident, and if true popular leadership is present, the Führer will be able to do whatever he wants with the nation. He will be able to make important political decisions. The people will obey him blindly and follow him blindly. The Führer is always right. Every last citizen must say this.

Howard| 2.4.09 @ 2:40PM

To Michael Roush: You sure seem a little nervous for someone who is on the right side of history. Why is that?

Hannah| 2.4.09 @ 3:02PM

I am a libtard.

Larry Cannon| 2.4.09 @ 4:43PM

You say conservatives provide you with amusement but not intellect. Unfortunately, you provide neither.

S.L.Toddard| 2.4.09 @ 5:47PM

Hannah look at your post:
"How can you possibly be a fan of either Limbaugh or Hannity when all they do is bully people? Do you really think that insulting others is okay? Or do you just not realize that Limbaugh and Hannity insult people endlessly... ?"
And replace Limbaugh and Hannity with Jeremiah and Roush., read the crap they left on this blog; how do you think they would behave if they had their own shows. Wake up.

seveneightnine| 2.4.09 @ 6:05PM

Posting here is like trying to talk a family member out of a religious cult.

Hannah| 2.4.09 @ 6:12PM

First of all, to whomever it was that pretended to be me and said "I am a libtard": thank you for proving my point completely. Since you're a fan of Rush and Hannity, you think that insulting others is perfectly fine. I appreciate your help in proving my arguments to be true. Care to help me any more?

To S.L. Toddard: Since when do Jeremiah or Roush have any sort of a stronghold on the Democratic party? They don't, so therefore, they are nothing like Rush or Hannity. Nice try, though.

S.L. Toddard| 2.4.09 @ 6:55PM

Nicer than you'd think, they talk like liberal politicians and we don't know who they are. I think one is Carville and the other one is Franken. Fairly steady stronghold, I'd say

S.L. Toddard| 2.4.09 @ 7:05PM

Hannah, let me disclose something to you and the other liberal turds who stink up this blog: Your party has won the elections, your candidate is the Prez. Wake up and try to be useful to your party and your Prez. Or is it they deem you unfit for the job? Too sodObamized to make any sense? I feel sorry for you, your life is so vain that a liberal administration doesn't even ask for your help, and you're reduced to haunting conservative blogs just to know what is going on in this country! And one day (November 2010) we'll rule again, and you'll still be oblivious to it. Dumb libturds.

S.L. Toddard| 2.4.09 @ 7:35PM

*Cronkite* is phonetic yiddish for *disease*
That's the way it is.

Osamas Pajamas| 2.4.09 @ 9:42PM

"The Mistake of '08" is pulling an Al Gore Stampede to get get us all on The OhBummer Train Wreck, a plan to stimulate the growth of government, a plan to stimulate the growth of the Democrat party, a plan best named, "Here, Carry This Piano and Shut The @#%&! Up!" If the Republicans have any cojones and any sense, they'll tear this plan to shreds and inspect every bloody square inch of it ---- and if the media won't publish all the findings, there are ways to get around those dirtbags ---- to reach the intended victims of OhBummer's "plan".

eightnineten| 2.5.09 @ 12:07AM

"*Cronkite* is phonetic yiddish for *disease*"
Now I understand who Hannity's target audience is and why he let a neo nazi produce and present his Obama smear documentary a few weeks before the election. Anti Semite Andy Martin would be preaching to the choir here. Follow the link below to watch the new press secretary Robert Gibbs confront Hannity on his show a couple of months ago. Hannity tries to make it sound like Andy Martin was only a guest on the show to provide a different opinion. Classic Hannity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgn6rjGbp0c

J. Donnelly| 2.5.09 @ 12:08AM

To AWARE, The nazis were right wing no matter what they called themselves. Their main enemy and threat to the fatherland , used to galvanize their followers , were the communists even before the Jews!

Nick| 2.5.09 @ 2:36AM

Jeremiah,

What a shock! Your only knowledge of Hitler comes from some hack CBS reporter!

This friend of Ghandi and Ed Murrow tries to rehabilitate socialism by saying the National SOCIALISTS weren't really socialist. Who woulda' thunk it?

I've called Jeremiah an Useful Idiot in the past. Now I have proof.

But Jeremiah is the guy who thinks the earth PROBABLY orbits the sun and mathematics is not science, so you have to take that into account.

Nick| 2.5.09 @ 3:04AM

Mr. Donnelly,

So you declare the nazis were right wing and we are supposed to disregard their own words? Is that how it works in your world?

J. DONNELLY: "I don't care what they SAID they were, I KNOW what they were, end of discussion."

Here's some history. Mussolini, who coined the term fascist, left the communists because they weren't radical enough for him. His father taught him Marx & Engels as a child.

Hitler didn't join the communists because they had too many Jews and he blamed the commies for Germany's defeat in the Great War. He hated the Weimar Republic. He didn't want to take orders from Moscow like the other socialists did. He wanted a national socialism. Real right-winger there, huh?

Mr. Donnelly, please educate yourself next time you decide to pop off.

ruth| 2.5.09 @ 3:36AM

Forget it, Nick, Donnelly is a fine product of our publik skool system. He can't think too much or his head will explode. Not too many brain cells left--the others went up in smoke many years ago.

Hannah| 2.5.09 @ 3:40AM

I am a big fat libtard.

J.Donnelly| 2.5.09 @ 10:00AM

Nick, The name of a political party or movement does not always translate into our understanding of it. It also could be just false. The Right Wing Nationalist leader in Russia, Zarinsky (approx.) who wants to take back Alaska calls himself a Liberal Democrat! And then there is always the Conservative Republican, George W. Bush.

Nick| 2.5.09 @ 10:17AM

Mr. Donnelly,

You wrote: "The name of a political party or movement does not always translate into our understanding of it." In your case, you certainly don't understand it.

Your straw man of some obscure Russian doesn't change history, so how does he prove the nazis were right-wing? Try sticking to facts. Oh that's right, you can't. Then you would have to admit your statement was false.

S.L. Toddard| 2.5.09 @ 12:15PM

And who signed that pact with Ribbentrop? Churchill? The Pope? Roosevelt? Ah yes, it was Molotov! eightnineten if I tell you you're a schlepp, a schmuck and a scheisskopf, that doesn't make me a nazi or a jew hater, it just means I have some fair observation skills.

joe amato| 2.5.09 @ 12:16PM

you give obama too much credit. i don't think hit attacks on Limbaugh are Fairness Doctrine warning shot. he's just shooting from the hip. he is reckless. the polar opposite of Bush. and if he keeps shooting from the hip ("there will be a time for profits") he's going get his obama cut off.

S.L. Toddard| 2.5.09 @ 12:20PM

Just for the ignorant and dumb liberals (pleonasm) on this blog: Molotov was a communist. USSR secretly trained the German Army in the 20's, and sided with Germany until Hitler invaded it without warning.

nineteneleven| 2.5.09 @ 1:37PM

Hey Joe, Obama has never proposed bringing back the fairness doctrine.

ruth| 2.5.09 @ 2:39PM

Nazi Pelosi has.

sixseveneight| 2.5.09 @ 6:49PM

I am completely against the fairness doctrine. Please don't silence Limbaugh!! His leadership of the Republican party is pure gold. I want to turn on my TV and see round the clock programming of Limbaugh, Hannity and Andy Martin, Dick Morris, Ann Coulter, Meatloaf and Sarah Palin and Joe the plumber's assistant in a panel discussion on what our country is doing wrong. I don't really know where Meatloaf stands politically , but I know Hannity can get him on the show.

ruth| 2.5.09 @ 9:49PM

678, don't be too cocky, seein' all that idiocy comin' from your side of the aisle. Can't get those dummocrats confirmed--drowning in all that corruption and all. What a sorry lot you are.

678| 2.5.09 @ 10:59PM

You know, it does seem like the Republicans and Democrats in Congress are in competition to see who is the most corrupt.

ruth| 2.6.09 @ 4:47PM

You got us beat by a mile, dude. Dummo corruption is growing every day, and it's on display for all to see right now.

ruth| 2.7.09 @ 1:54AM

Haha, disregard that, I suck cocks.

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Hercules won’t help you until you have all five items from Zeus’ quest. Once you have the five items, bring them to Athena. Zeus will appear and steal them. The big jerk! Once this happens, talk to Athena and she will tell you that Hercules will help you. You’ll need to have the magic mirror from Aphrodite because Hercules doesn’t want to have to walk. He’s so lazy!
Getting the Hydra Scale poptropica

You can see how to do this in the videos, but basically you need to jump up when the Hydra is about to strike. He will rear one of his heads back to attack and his eyes will bulge out. poptropica
When this happens, jump up in the air and then try to land on top of his head. That head will get knocked out. When all five heads get knocked out, the Hydra will be asleep and you can click on him to get one of the scales. poptropica
I’ll have a full written walkthrough very soon, but in the meantime, here are some answers to some of the frequently asked questions about Mythology Island. Having trouble? Post a question in the comments and I’ll try to answer it!poptropica

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