Another Perspective
Was There Ever a Default on U.S. Treasury Debt?
If it’s happened before, why should we think it can’t happen again, in the face of rapidly increasing U.S. government debt?
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• “Loss of reputation for honorable dealing will bring us unending humiliation.”
The clearest summation of the judicial outcome was in the concurring opinion of Justice Stone, as a member of the majority:
• “While the government’s refusal to make the stipulated payment is a measure taken in the exercise of that power, this does not disguise the fact that its action is to that extent a repudiation.”
• “As much as I deplore this refusal to fulfill the solemn promise of bonds of the United States, I cannot escape the conclusion, announced for the Court, that the government, through exercise of its sovereign power, has rendered itself immune from liability.”
So five of the nine justices explicitly stated that the obligations of the United States had been repudiated. There can be no doubt that the candid conclusion of this highly interesting chapter of our national financial history is that, under sufficient threat, crisis and pressure, a clear default on Treasury bonds did occur.
About 250 years ago, in a celebrated essay, “Of Public Credit,” David Hume wrote:
”Contracting debt will almost infallibly be abused in every government. It would scarcely be more imprudent to give a prodigal son a credit in every banker’s shop in London, than to empower a statesman to draw bills upon posterity.”
Hume would have looked down from philosophical Valhalla in 1933-35 and seen his views confirmed. What, one wonders, would he be thinking now?
Robert Rosencrans| 1.21.09 @ 10:18AM
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Bernard Higonnet| 2.8.10 @ 9:58AM
And the end of the world soon ensued...
Interested Conservative| 1.21.09 @ 12:25PM
Mr. Hume would be thinking, ". . . there you go again, democrats . . .". Not without plenty of GOP help this go around.
Jim| 1.21.09 @ 1:54PM
At the risk of having this comment traced back to its originator and having my domestic door kicked in, I must nevertheless state, absent all fear - for I am too old to care anymore - that were my imagination alone capable of blowing the capitol building in D.C. to smithereens, it would thus be done.
Many times over I would blow it up. I would take the collective, collected pieces together and blow them up. Rake that resulting debris into a large pile and blow it up until the finality of dust would blow away with an easterly moving wind depositing it's load far into and onto a broad, ever expanding ocean.
It's former inhabitants sent scurrying like ants without a home into sewers, transported as so much waste, never to be seen or heard from again.
I know, I know, I am too kind; far too generous.
Osamas Pajamas | 1.22.09 @ 2:02AM
My grandmother was a victim of Roosevelt's gold theft scheme, and according to her, so am I, she said, for a legacy gone south in the pockets of thieving Democrats. I am thinking that Grammie would be arrested and jailed today, for what she said about the FDR and government in general, when I was young. But paraphrasing her, we are ruled by predatory humanitarians --- by thugs with guns and their scummy media allies --- who deserve to be treated as such. And Grammie, well she was sort of an intellectual antecedent to Ayn Rand. Yee haa.
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beatstreet| 1.22.09 @ 7:56AM
And yet look at the performance of gov't bonds after this default. Their prices rose (yields fell) and continued to do so for the next decade.
Mark A. Sadowski| 1.22.09 @ 12:22PM
It's a myth that the U.S. never has never defaulted on its debts. It's as American as apple pie. (Or was it cherry pie?) The first time we did it was in 1790 under President Washington. We were burdened with the debt accrued during the Revolutionary War. Nominal interest on our debt was pegged at 6 percent but a portion of the interest was deferred for 10 years, effectively putting us into default. Been there, done that, probably do it again!
Robert Burch| 1.23.09 @ 8:01PM
How about the dollar 'default'? It's gone to zero twice - first the continental, then the greenback.
Considering that it's lost 96% of its value since the Fed was created in 1913, it's pretty close to zero again. For the long-term bondholders, who will be paid in worthless paper, that's a default too.
Amero| 1.29.09 @ 11:25PM
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adagioforstrings | 5.31.09 @ 4:32PM
The US was a creditor nation after WWI. The countries that owed us money, Britain & France, both left the gold standard.
re: Sadowski: The US repaid its Revolutionary War loans, plus interest in gold bullion. That's how the US earned a higher credit rating than Revolutionary France.
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Ego Nemo| 2.15.10 @ 5:48PM
Well, the article proves that the 'lasting humiliation' never came and that that justice was just dead wrong.
Also, the article has a secret thesis, that it only hints at, and hides like a secret against a liar's bosom:
"Public debt repayments are suicide contracts."
The U.S. Supreme Court ruling was correct, but even those voting for it failed to muster the proper logic. Luckily, those hale and hardy fellows would drop from the scene less than three years later.
The issue is this: The Public Interest, Especially in Times of Crisis, is Paramount.
To believe the perspective of the article above, one would have to believe that governments can make contracts with private parties that, if enforced, would mean the end of the governments that made the deals.
Said again: Public contracts are not suicide pacts.
Any difference from that, to the extent of the difference, is irrational.
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The United States have to do something with this debt. They are strong enough to do a lot of things, but a debt is a debt.
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Werner| 3.27.12 @ 12:20PM
Of course, this assumes 100% default. But inflating (both external and internal) debt away is also a form of default in my book, and there's been plenty of that, especially since '71. And I strongly suspect, more to come, not only in USA.