The Public Policy
Jindal Care
How reforming Medicaid in Louisiana could prevent single payer across America.
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Kane agreed. “Voters did not elect Bobby Jindal so he could sit on his hands and wait for action from Washington…Further, his expertise in health care makes him an ideal candidate to propose market-oriented reforms.”
INDEED, IF JINDAL were to wait around for Washington, the solution would probably look like the plan proposed by Montana Senator Max Baucus, which would greatly increase the role of the government with a system of individual and company mandates, and sharply reduce the role of the consumer. Or, as Levine suggested, if enough time passes, it could resemble the single payer system Obama has discussed in the past. Such a socialized system would be disastrous for health care in America — “There is no way to get around the fact that universal healthcare will either cost too much or deliver a lower quality product,” Kane argued.
Jindal and Levine’s plan, then, is a model for other states. A successful reform of Medicaid now — Medicaid recipients represent a large part of the population in most states, 25 percent in Lousiana — could forestall universal health care and a massive federal intervention into the health care market in the future.
“The good thing is that we’re not talking about a single-payer plan,” Levine told TAS. We’re not now, but if others don’t pay attention to Jindal and Levine’s example, perhaps we will be.
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Bob| 12.17.08 @ 9:02AM
This kind of plan is similar to what Obama was talking about. Essentially, it is a single payer plan for Medicaid. Choice, you say? Medicaid patients will have no choice if you shut down inpatient facilities and doctors can choose not to treat them.
In any event, whether it is Jindal or Obama, we will end up with single payer system for the uninsured, medicare, and those who voluntarily choose to enter this system because it is the lowest cost. I've seen no really free market solutions that will encompass the 50 million uninsured.
In my neighborhood for a radius of 100 miles, there is NO hospital operating at a profit. They are closing down emergency care and shutting some of them down. The profitable services are being grabbed by group practices and taken away from the hospitals. These group practices will not accept everyone -- the hospitals must. That makes the healthcare situation worse, not better.
I have no clue about the best system, but seeing the trend here, we will end up with a single payer system if hospitals can't make money any other way. If we were first in the world with health care performance, then it would be another matter. But we aren't. We are ranked 37th in the world. Is anyone really satisfied with that?
Deryl Bryant| 12.17.08 @ 11:47AM
Governor Jindal's plan is NOTHING like the continued death-spiral being offered up by the proponents of socialized medicine, which has been proven time and again to be a failure.
Governor Jindal's healtcare plan gives ALL individuals a choice, even those people needing government assistance, unlike a so-called National (Socialist) healtcare system which provides no choice at all.
To continue along the same path we are on, moving closer and closer to socialized medicine as proposed by the Democrat leadership, is to shackle the public with yet another failed, Federal program and on a greater scale than Social(ized) Security.
Governor Jindal's plan promotes freedom of choice and self-determination, keystones to a representative Republic, while eliminating waste, abuse, and bureaucratic incompetency, as it steers away from the Democrat Party's push towards a Socialist form of government.
Bob| 12.17.08 @ 12:50PM
Actually, Deryl, your facts are wrong. Obama's plan is not single payer and is choice oriented except for the coverage of children. The thought on covering children, especially the poor, is that preventative care should reduce expenses later in life.
The point I was making was that aside from the political positioning, the Jindal plan is not that different in effect from what Obama has recommended. You are, unfortunately, drinking some right wing KoolAid.
If Jindal's plan is successful, then it will morph into Obama's plan since it will lower costs and "choice" is not a realistic option.
Don't get me wrong, I think both Jindal and Obama are on the right track here. But don't kid yourself into the resultant system.
Derek P| 12.17.08 @ 3:14PM
I always wondered why there is even a debate in this country regarding going to a single payer socialized medicine system when it is not debatable that it would result in higher costs and a lower standard of care. Can you imagine how much better off this country would be if we had truly an objective media?
Dai Alanye | 12.17.08 @ 3:52PM
To start with, statistics that prove US medical care to be less than first rate simply indicate the use of misleading parameters by the statisticians. I'm sure studies can be found rating Cuba higher than the US, but they are all bilge, of course, and it is simply asinine to refer to them. Rich Arabs happily come to the US for medical procedures despite our supposed 37th place ranking.
For my part, I've experienced being uninsured, using the old Blue Cross/Blue Shield plans, utilizing employer-paid plans, being in an HMO, and Medicare. Regardless of the weaknesses of any or all of these, I've never felt my health was impaired, although my wallet occasionally has suffered. Only with military medical care did I feel slighted, probably because those jokers tended to assume you were malingering.
The major difficulty with involving payers other than the consumer--and this applies to our present systems as well as those proposed--is that cost is no object from the consumer's point of view. For the insurance company or government, on the other hand, cost is *the* major object, inevitably leading to limitations of service and squeezing the fees of the providers. Thus the problems in Canada and England, among other places.
As far as Medicaid, it has become vastly more costly than anticipated because nothing is denied to the recipients, according to medical providers in my state. Medicare, though, does enforce some modest degree of rationing.
Bob| 12.17.08 @ 4:08PM
Actually, Dai, the reason healthcare is less than first rate is because it is averaged. Those 50 million without healthcare push the statistics down. What would you like to use? Life expectancy? Birth rate? Tell me so we can look it up together. Throwing out the numbers does not change the facts. It reminds me of a child who covers their eyes so YOU won't see them. Same deal.
On the upper end of the scale, we do have the best healthcare. On the lower end of the scale, we don't.
I agree with you that people need to take on more copayments. I'd rather have lower insurance costs and more copayments so people would care about expenses.
I do have relatives in England and have talked to them about their healthcare. They don't have crowded emergency rooms, but more people do get covered. They don't like the waits concerning some surgeries, but with those that must be done quickly, they seem to get them done.
Personally, I like the Taiwan system. It's tremendously efficient and they don't have the surgical wait times. Each person chooses a local doctor and he is paid by the patient, not the procedure. There is an emphasis on preventive medicine which seems to work. They studied the U.S. and Canadian/English systems and came up with some good compromises. Rather than assuming there are no benefits, I'd like to see the issues studied with an open mind.
And the reason nothing is denied has more to do with tort reform, than it has to do with medicine. I would like to restrict payouts to individuals.
ussa serf| 12.17.08 @ 8:10PM
The free market will never be allowed to work in health care unless there is mandatory price transparency. Right now, around 40-50% of medical care is government funded. Prices are in the government system often bear no relation to reality. Prices in the "private" system are difficult to obtain.
As far as outcome measures are concerned, it is important to keep in mind that the appropriate outcomes are measured. Many times socialist medicine advocates cite life expectancy statistics or prenatal birth rates that correlate with cultural, lifestyle and educational conditions. Better outcome markers are things like specific disease outcomes with proper controls (diet, education, etc).
canuck| 12.18.08 @ 7:05AM
Levine will be a record setting individual when he finishes destroying Louisiana. He will be the first Administrator to screw up two states after seriously harming hundreds of thousands of kids in Florida either in full knowledge or full denial of his actions.
In Florida kids got shoved into HMOs where all the usual HMO horror stories were taking place. No access, deficient panels, service denial and long delays were the norm. Levine sat through that in warm self-congratulation while the HMOs raped millions of dollars from the healthcare of these kids. Expect his friends at Wellcare (known in Florida as Staysick) to welcome his appointment....the only surprising move is that he hasn't been appointed to their Board or hired as a well paid consultant.
Opal| 12.18.08 @ 1:15PM
As the mother of a child with a transplant, who has watched many European families come to the US to get transplants, which they are denied in Europe; I have to question the how dilussional liberals are on this issue.
#1) In Europe, the reason they keep healthcare costs down, is that they euthanize their patients over 80, and most infants requiring extensive healthcare in the long term.
2) You wait forever, which means that some patients die, who shouldn't have had to.
3) If you really want something done, the patient pays on their own and has the procedure done here or in India.
My son, is a living miracle. Our medical establishment wanted to kill him at birth, and had I not been such a rabid, prolife zeolot, they would have worn me down. Now he is fine, developmentally normal...etc. But his story is on the web in various spots and routinely, I hear from Europeans in socialized systems who were not allowed to let their child live because the kid would cost to much. If the parent wouldn't give permission for the baby to be euthanized, the doctors did it anyway. Wesley J. Smith and the Organization Not Dead Yet, can give statistics if you want them.
How ironic, that the poor liberals want to help everybody and the poor, yet it will really just encourage our doctors to murder us to keep down costs....By the way, did you know that most major Children's Hospitals do millions of dollars of probono work every year. At the four, major Hospitals where my son has been cared for, I have encountered illegal immigrants getting transplants, or the poorest of the poor citizens getting free healthcare-the best free healthcare in the world. Nobody ever talks about that though....all the hours doctors and super hospitals spend caring for the poorest of the poor, pro bono.
James Hovland| 12.18.08 @ 5:20PM
Opal,
This is America, not Britain or Canada or anywhere else. We have a free democracy which allows us to make our system whatever we want, including perfect. Lets aim for perfect.
Bob,
You are correct about the top to bottom difference, but as a nation we rank 39th. Some times people argue about whether Health Care is a right or not. The answer is NOT in America.
Derek,
Your information is completely backwards. It is a very well known fact that ALL of the industrialized nations with National programs pay less and rank higher in Health Care than America does.
Deryl,
Repeating the word "socialized" doesn't scare people anymore. The Cold War is over and the information era has begun. Do you know what the Russians were doing during the cold war? They were trying to stop the Capitalists from taking over the world. I find that enlightening.
Take a deep breath.
Nobody wants a Socialist take over, but we don't want a Capitalists take over either. America has a nice blend of each. The Fire department and Police are good examples of American Socialism. Rather than reacting to old war time emotions, we need to explore all our possibilities with an open rational mind.
Insurance is a waste.
Insurance as part of our Health Care system is just a huge waste of money and a corrupting influence on our political system. Through insurance, our health care dollars pay for lobbyists, political contributions, and a ton of anti-government propaganda. Why should we pay for the insurance companies political influence and public opinion as an additional expense to health care?
Single Payer costs less.
If America continued to spend the same amount on Health Care but didn't give the insurance companies 30%, we would be saving enough money to cover America's uninsured, plus all of South Korea, while maintaining the same quality of care. A Single Payer system could provide better care that covered everyone, for less than we spend now.
Follow the money.
Jindal is just another bought and paid for politician, serving the for-profit motives of his financial supporters instead of needs of his constituents. Not surprising from a die-hard capitalist living in the most corrupt state in the union.
opal| 12.19.08 @ 2:45PM
James,
You miss the point entirely. There is a reason why socialized healthcare system keeps costs low-patients have NO say. If you want to keep your ill child alive but the "system" says no-tough. Result, Dead kid. Grandpa is 80 and in perfect health but he fell and needs hip surgery-tough. Not financially worth the time or cost.
The people in this country who get screwed are the lower middle class, and the poor who live in rural areas. The poor, illegal and without insurance can go to the best Children's Hospitals in the world for free, since they are usually inner city. And make no mistake, there are no Children's Hospitals in teh world like ours. None. There is no other country in teh world, who does for the sick child, what our country does. That is why our Children's hospitals always have foreign patients-foreign patients who could never receive the care or surgery or speciality in their own country that they get here.
I get sick and tired of hearing about how lousy our healthcare system is. If it was so horrible, why do thousands of Europeans show up here every year for procedures that are not approved in Europe.
James Hovland| 12.20.08 @ 4:40AM
Opal,
"There is a reason why socialized healthcare system keeps costs low-patients have NO say" Your premise on cost is not supported by health statistics, nor does it take into consideration 30% wasted on Capitalist ideals.
I understand you fears.
You have concerns that you will have "NO say", potentially resulting in a fatality.
Relax, this is not Europe. Take note of the fear and anger you are expressing, the level of emotion is relative to volume, displayed in this case as capitalization. Be aware that emotions will skew information in support of the emotion. Also be aware that emotions are the primary target of propaganda for that reason.
Please, recall again that this is not Europe. The Single Payer systems you are looking at do not have our funding and never have. America spends more on Health Care than anyone, and will most likely continue to do so under a Single Payer system as well.
Do not allow our government to give you "NO say". I'm 100% with you on that. This is our government, but we have to stand up for ourselves to make sure our objections are addressed. Demand better representation, and when you have to, point at the contributions and relate them to votes. Talk about lunches with lobbyists and the canned answer replies you get in the mail as a constituent. Apply some pressure, accountability is our job.
One way or another, a public health care plan will emerge. The current idea in Washington is for the government plan to compete in the free market with insurance. Republicans fear this will lead to Single Payer because insurance can't compete. I agree.
mi| 12.27.08 @ 11:56PM
**JINDAL IS A LIAR, HIS OFFICE JUST SENT MY REQUEST TO DHH AND HAD THEM CONTACT ME , WHICH RESULTED IN NO MORE HELP THAN WET T.P. !!!!!!!!!!IT IS SHAMEFUL WHEN A PERSON HAS TO GO THROUGH SUCH LENGTHS JUST TO GET HELP WHEN THE PEOPLE WHO READ THIS IF THEY DO, HAVE NO PROBLEM ABOUT WORRYING ABOUT HEALTH CARE. I AM JUST ASKING FOR HELP IN FINDING OUT WHY I STAY SICK, I HAVE TAKEN PENICILLIN 3 TIMES, CIPPRO, AND JUST FINISHED THE AVELOX 400 MGS 1 PILL FOR 10 DAYS, GUESS WHAT ?--STILL SICK! NONE WORK. JUST FINISHED THE CELEXA AND WILL NOT CONTINUE ON ANY MORE.
THIS IS WHERE OUR PARISH WOULD RATHER SPEND THE MONEY. Last week the Calcasieu Police Jury agreed to buy an 11 story building on Lakeshore Drive to be used for office space and parking by the District Attorney's office and nearby courts. The cost was nearly $5 million. It was purchased from an investment group that paid around $3 million for the site just a few weeks earlier.
Do you approve of Calcasieu Parish government purchasing the 11 story "white building" from a local investment group for just over 1.5 million dollars more than the group paid for it a few weeks ago?
IS THIS WHAT THEY WOULD RATHER SPEND THE MONEY ON, DESK SPACE AND PARKING?
""JUST DENIED AGAIN FOR THE THIRD TIME FOR SSIDI IN LOUISIANA. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME ON THE GOVERNOR OF LOUISIANA."" LOOKS SO SHAMEFUL ON THE GOVERNOR'S PART, I SENT E-MAIL AFTER E-MAIL CONCERNING MY HEALTH PROBLEMS, EVEN A COPY OF THE E-MAIL SENT TO ME FROM THE FDA ABOUT ALL THE MEDICATIONS I AM ON, OH, BY THE WAY, STILL SICK!YES, I RECIEVED HIS LETTER OR WELL THE OFFICE'S LETTER LETTING ME KNOW THAT THE DHH WOULD BE CONTACTING ME IN REGARDS TO GETTING HELP. WELL GUESS WHAT,,YEP, NO SUPRISE, EVERYTHING THAT THEY RECOMMENDED DOING OR CONTACTING OR GOING THROUGH, I ALREADY AM, WHY DO YOU THINK I AM STILL TRYING TO GET HELP? SHAME, SHAME, SHAME ON THE GOVERNOR, HE PROMISED TO GET BETTER HEALTH CARE FOR THE PEOPLE OF LOUISIANA. I HAVEN'T GOTTEN YET.
SULPHUR,LA 70663
---READ ALL---READ ALL---READ ALL---READ ALL---
VERY LONG E-MAIL---VERY LONG E-MAIL---VERY LONG E-MAIL---
PLEASE IF YOU HAVE A HEART OR IF YOU CARE PLEASE READ THIS. !!!!!!!!!!READ ALL OF THIS---READ ALL OF THIS---READ ALL OF THIS---!!!!!!!!!!
IT IS VERY LONG, PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO SIT AND READ ALL OF THIS. YOU ARE NOT GOING THROUGH WHAT I AM.
MS. WENDY IN BATON ROUGE RECOMMENDED THAT I STAY ON THE CELEXA AND START THE RELPAX WHEN IT COMES IN, DESPITE WHAT THE FDA SAYS.
Dear Ms.********:
Thank you for your inquiry to the Division of Drug Information at the
Food and Drug Administration.
You are correct, you are on quite a bit of medications. One of the
concerns that I have is that some of these medications have side
effects
that may increase some of you symptoms of depression, headache, and
drowsiness. Another issue that should be brought to the attention of
you doctor/pharmacist is that if you have an allergy to the drug
Imitrex, you may have some reaction to the Relpax.
Dilantin is a drug that is used to help control you from having
seizures, it's a drug that is considered to have a very narrow
therapeutic window, which means that the levels of the drug should be
monitored otherwise, if elevated or reduced, there is a increased
potential for a seizure to occur.
Neurontin is another medication to prevent seizures. However, it can
cause drowisiness. In addition, both Celexa and the hydrocodone that
you have been prescribe will cause additional drowsiness.
It is not recommended to take Celexa and Relpax at the same time, as it
may lead to what is referred to as serotoinin syndrome.
DO YOU WANT TO TAKE ALL OF THESE MEDICATIONS, AND BE TOLD GO HOME AND SLEEP OR AS SSI SAYS, GO BACK TO WORK, WHEN YOU HAVE 3 KIDS? WHY IS IT SO HARD TO JUST SAY ADMIT HER FOR 3-4 DAYS, DO ALL TESTS, ALL, AND INTRAVENOUS MEDICATIONS. HOW HARD IS THAT?
YOU COME PAY FOR ALL OF THIS. AND STILL PAY BILLS, BUY GROCERIES, AND AT THIS TIME TRY TO GET PRESENTS FOR YOUR KIDS WHEN YOU DO NOT HAVE A JOB, AND YOUR BOYFRIEND IS WORKING OVER TIME TO TRY TO DO IT ALL. STILL BEING DENIED FOR ANY HELP. SAY BOYFRIEND MAKES TOO MUCH MONEY, WELL, I WONDER WHY, BUT YET THEY DO NOT WANT TO ADD UP ALL THE BILLS AND SUCH THAT THE MONEY GOES TO AND WHAT IS LEFT OVER. JUST HOW MUCH IS MADE A YEAR, NOT BROUGHT HOME.
32 yoa, epileptic since childhood, current medications on a"" DAILY BASIS "" , YES DAILY,
100mgs- dilantin - 2 pills 3 times daily-(600)
600mgs- neurontin -1 pill 3 times daily-(1800)
97.2mgs- phenebarb- 1 pill at bedtime
40mgs- celexa- 1 pill at bedtime (may break in half if too strong)-JUST FINISHED
ceron-dm syp- 1 teaspoon 2 times daily-JUST FINISHED
400mgs- avelox abc- 1 pill daily for 10 days-JUST FINISHED
7.5/500mgs- hydrocodone- 1OR 1 & 1/2 pill every 4-6 hours as needed for pain-THREW OUT
WAITING ON PHARMACY TO CONTACT ME AND LET ME KNOW WHEN THE LAST PRESCRIPTION HAS COME IN, HAD TO BE ORDERED, SOMETHING LIKE OR CALLED "" RELPAX "" FOR HEADACHES.
ALSO WAS ADVISED TO CONTINUE ON MUCINEX IF HELPS.
IS ALL OF THIS GOOD FOR MY BODY? I ALREADY GET SICK JUST WHEN THE WIND BLOWS. NOW, I AM HAVING LOWER ABDOMEN PAIN, ON THE RIGHT SIDE, CAN'T STOP HAVING TO GO PEE. AND PLEASE DO NOT JUST E-MAIL ME AND TELL ME TO CONSULT MY PHYSCIAN, I GO THROUGH OUR LOCAL LSU CHARITY HOSPITAY, AND THE ONLY WAY TO TALK TO YOUR DOCTOR IS TO JUST GO TO THE E.R., AND THEN HOPE THEY GIVE YOU AN EARLY APPOINTMENT, NOT ONE THAT IS 4 MONTHS AWAY, BECAUSE YOUR PCP ONLY SEES YOU EVERY 3 MONTHS. I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING.DON'T TELL ME TO CONTACT MY LOCAL SENATORS OR CONGRESSMEN IN MY DISTRICT!!!!!!!!!! I ALREADY HAVE!!!!!!!!!! NO HELP. I AM JUST SO READY TO BE ADMITTED INTO THE HOSPITAL AND GIVEN THE ANTIBIOTICS THROUGH AN I V STRAIGHT IN MY BLOOD STREAM AND GIVE ME PAIN MEDICATION SO I CAN FINALLY HAVE A GOOD NIGHTS SLEEP. SO WHAT IF THEY HAVE TO KEEP ME FOR A FEW DAYS AND RUN TESTS, BUT MAKE SURE THEY RUN PROPER TESTS. FIND OUT WHY THE SAME INFECTION KEEPS COMING BACK AND DESPITE ALL THE OTHER ANTIBIOTICS I HAVE ALREADY TAKEN, WHY HAVE THEY NOT WORKED? WHY DO I KEEP HAVING THE SAME PROBLEMS ALL THE TIME AND CANNOT GET THE RIGHT HELP? SUPPOSEDLY MY CT AND MRI COME BACK NEGATIVE, BUT I AM NOT GETTING ANY BETTER. WHAT IS WRONG? WHY ARE THEY NOT TRYING HARDER TO FIND OUT?????????? WHAT IS WRONG?????????? WARNING: WARNING: WARNING:, THIS IS A LONG E-MAIL, PLEASE IF YOU CARE, READ ALL OF IT, IF NOT THEN DO LIKE THE REST WHO DOES'T CARE, SELFISH PEOPLE AND DELETE IT. i am just tired of begging congressmen, senators, charity hospital administrators, hospital social services, every one for help. because i do not have any insurance or medicaid, i have to go through charity hospitals, after spending over a week making phone calls and begging shreveprot charity to finally get the neurologist i was referred to look at my results, now they say i need to contact lafayette charity and talk with the ear, nose, and throat clinic whom i was also referred to, to check my information and see if i have an appointment yet, NOT UNTIL FEBRUARY 2009. it took finding and getting lucky the phone number of the chancellor's office at shreveport for someone to finally give me information. now, it is time to start fighting to get something done in lafayette. i am contacting you to see if you can help or know an ear, nose, and throat speacilist close by that is willing to and for the sake of the holidays, take on a charity case much needed free of charge, which will also and may boost his holiday and everyday business, or even getting in touch with the dean or chancellor at U M C LAFAYETTE, and they do have all my information and referral, to get me in this week, only 45 minute drive, i need to be seen, cannot continue on all these medications, and be an epilelptic person. please if you can help with keeping me out of the news or on tv, i WOULD SO MUCH BE SO VERY, VERY, VERY, GRATEFUL. HAVE ALREADY went to the e.r. , and they gave me a breathing treatment, morphine, and said i only had a cold and told me not to cough. sent me home with a prescription for hyrocodone 500 mgs. never did they treat the infection in my upper pallet of my mouth, which has been swollen and badly infected for well over a month FINALLY THE SWELLING WENT DOWN, BUT FOR HOW LONG, THE INFECTION ALWAYS COMES BACK. even my dentist has treated this before it was this bad 3 times, then i got an ear infection and my mouth swollen up again. since it has never been cured. my dentist said i need to see an EAR, NOSE, AND THROAT SPEACILIST, and so did the pcp doctor i see at our lsu w.o. moss regional charity hospital, in lake charles, la. he wrote a referral to go to lsu charity in lafayette, la, but now they say it might or could take up to 3 months before i am even seen. my goodness, now wonder people or so cautious to vote on an health care issues, while it may help the people in office, it does nothing for those who made the vote and need the help. i have more wrong with me than just a cold, and i cannot be doped upped 24-7. i am 32 yoa, and deserve a life, and deserve to enjoy that life with my family. why do people have to beg so much for help, when it is only 45 minutes away?????????? i have even begged them to just admit me until the e. n. t. can look and treat me, nothing. why??????????no, medicaid, they denied me, no SSIDI, this is the third time DENIED AGAIN, last two times denied, even though i received SSI from child hood into my 20's when they cut me off, yes, i am epileptic also. AS YOU SHOULD KNOW EPILEPSY HAS NO CURE. I AM TO THE POINT I WANT BACK PAY FOR CUTTING ME OFF, SO I CAN PAY THE E.R. MEDICAL BILLS THAT TOTAL TO MORE THAN OVER $8,000. I SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN CUT OFF OR DENIED.!!!!!!!!!! and please do not tell me or referr me to contact my senators or congressmen in my district, already have. i'm sure they know my name pretty good by now, as well as the epilepsy foundation of louisiana. i went to see my pcp doctor at moss regional in lake charles,la, and he didn't look at my mouth or my ears, we had a few arguments, me and him, he told me i had mood swings and needed to see a psychiatrist, told me to ignore the pain i have, don't think about it, don't take pain medications either, that is when i dropped my pants all the way to the floor and showed him all of my bruises on my legs and body, that i do not know how i got, he said i had to much estrogen, but when i said wrong answer, i had a partial hysterectomy almost 11 years ago, he then said, let me rephrase that, you have or might have low or high estrogen then. as a doctor, he should have looked at my medical chart RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM, and seen that i had a partial hysterectomy almost 11 years ago, before just blurting out a diagnoses, and then having to retract what he said. after arguing for awhile and many tears, trying to just walk out, but my mom stopped me, he then just wrote 3 more prescriptions, never looked at my mouth or ear or asked me about my neck pain. i had TWO filled for $5 and $6 the other 1 is sitting at the hospital pharmacy. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THE MEDICAL SYSTEM?????????? EVEN MS. WENDY IN BATON ROUGE AT THE LSU CHARITY HOSPITAL THERE, CONTACTED THE HEAD NEUROLOGIST IN SHREVEPORT, DOCTOR KELLY, AND WAS TRYING TO GET AN E.N.T., AN APPOINTMENT FOR ME SOONER THAN ----MARCH OF 2009, BUT ALL SHE WAS ABLE TO ARRANGE, WAS IN JANUARY OF 2009 AT 8:00 A.M. CT, SO WE WILL HAVE TO LEAVE HERE ABOUT 3:00 A.M., JUST TO GIVE TIME FOR TRAFFIC AND GETTING LOST. NO I WILL NOT BE CELEBRATING THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS, I AM SENDING MY KIDS TO THEIR DADS FOR THEIR 2 WEEK HOLIDAY VACATION, THEY WILL COME BACK AFTER CHRISTMAS. WHY SHOULD THEY HAVE TO SUFFER OR BE STRESSED OR WORRIED ABOUT ME. LET THEM HAVE SOME ENJOYMENT. I WILL I GUESS JUST HAVE TO SUFFER AND MANAGE. (((((MERRY, MERRY, MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL), ISN'T THAT WHAT THE SAYING IS?????????? WELL, NOT FOR ME, AND MY BOYFRIEND, HE HAS WORKED ALMOST 80 HOURS IN ONE WEEK, TRYING TO GET A GOOD PAYCHECK TO MAKE SURE WE CAN PAY EVERYTHING. LAND TAXES WERE DUE ALMOST $600, BY DECEMBER 31,2008. RIGHT AT CHRISTMAS TIME. HOPE YA'LL ALL ENJOY YOUR HOLIDAYS, PRESENTS, WATCHING YOUR FAMILY LAUGH AND SMILE, WHILE YOU LAUGH AND SMILE AT THEM, I WILL BE SO DOPED UP ON MEDICATION, I WILL SLEEP FROM MORNING TO NIGHT, GET UP FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS, AND SLEEP AGAIN TILL MORNING.
--LOUISIANA HEALTH SYSTEMS AND SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEMS ARE GREEDY AND THEY SUCK. THEY SHOULD BE NAMED #1, #1, AS THE WORST STATE FOR HEALTH CARE, AND SOCIAL SECURITY. ---
I HAVE THREW OUT THE HYDROCODONE AND RAN OUT OF MUCINEX. ARE THEY TRYING TO KILL ME OR GET ME TO FILL MORE PRESCRIPTIONS SO THE STATE GETS A CUT, BECAUSE IT COMES FROM A CHARITY HOSPITAL? NOW I HAVE TO GET THE NEURONTIN FILLED IN 3 WEEKS FOR A 90 DAY SUPPLY AND THAT WILL BE ALMOST $200, AND THE phenobarb FILLED WHICH WILL BE ALMOST $15 AT THE SULPHUR,LA WALMART. WHY AM I NOT APPROVED FOR SSIDI WITH A DISABILATY THAT HAS NO CURE AND WHY DO I NOT GET MEDICAID? THIS STATE IS ""VERY, VERY, VERY, GREEDY, I SHOULD BE RECIEVING BOTH. NO MATTER WHAT MY BOYFRIEND GROSSES A YEAR, HE DOESN'T BRING ALL THAT HOME,AND THEY DO NOT ADD UP ALL THE BILLS, NEEDS, GROCIERIES, """""PRESCRIPTIONS""""", ETC....., EVEN THE DOCTOR WROTE A LETTER THAT SSIDI HAS A COPY OF SAYING I CANNOT WORK FULL TIME. !!!!!WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH LOUISIANA AND THE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM????? CAN YOU TELL ME, LOAN ME YOUR INSURANCE, ADD ME TO YOUR POLICY!!!!!!!!!!
CAN'T TALK WITH DOCTOR HE IS IN CLINIC OR NURSES ARE WITH DOCTOR, OR PATIENTS. JUST TOLD GO TO E.R. some state we live in. boy i tell you. all this money for car companies, and buying buildings for better office space and parking, but none for the health of the people.
WHY IS IT THAT I WAS APPROVED FOR SSI FROM CHILD HOOD INTO MY 20'S AND THEN AT THE CUT OFF AGE I WAS STILL APPROVED? I HAD TO RE-APPLY EVERY YEAR, BUT I WAS APPROVED, UNTIL I STARTED GOING TO THE LSU MEDICAL CLINIC IN LAKE CHARLES,LA. EVEN MY OWN CASE WORKER, MR. CHARLIE ELLIS, FOR SSI, INFORMED ME THAT I WAS CUT OFF BECAUSE THE DOCTOR I WAS APPARENTLY SEEING, TOLD SSI THAT I WAS CURED. *****HELLO- THERE- IS - NO- CURE- FOR- EPILEPSY- *****
MELISSA(MI)| 3.18.09 @ 11:34AM
i posted a comment in dec.08,,still no help, still only denial,,,,i am so ready to -oo00h- can't say,,,, they have raised taxes on cigarettes to get ppl to quit smoking and are raising again next month one more dollar, all so they can better health care,,, well ,,, why not helping those that you and i both know qualify for health care and ssi ( I HAVE EPILEPSY) , AND START THERE!!!! if they use their brains , that alone will close alot of files and paperwork, hours, and overtime pay. stop throwing our case away only to make us keep re applying and using up more of their hours and our money. if i was in jail, i would get treatment and maybe even come out with the SSI that i know AND THE STATE of LOUISIANA knows i qualify for. it is way past time we get our bonuses, our health care, not the kind the think we should have to cut down the budget, if that is so , then why don't they put us on their insurance policy, SHAME SHAME SHAME ON LOUISIANA, BOBBY JINDAL, SENATORS AND CONGRESS MEN WHO REPRESENT US. THEY OWE ME, I HAVE MEDICAL BILLS TO PAY,,, YOU KNOW WHAT,,, THEY HAVE MEDICAL BILLS TO PAY. SHAME SHAME SHAME,,,,,WHERE IS MY RECOVERY MONEY****NO I WILL NOT APPEAL, TAKING TOO MANY TAXES AS IT IS NOW,****welcome to the white house, just not mine. don't send ppl to knock on my door to support your plan or any including jindal's office. i will light up my cigarette and while they blow smoke one way at me i will blow mine in their face. then they can run back and use their good ole' high price insurance you help to provide for them to get treated by their doctor from smoke inhalation. i have no insurance to use to get treated for the smoke they blew up me. your office never responds to my e-mails of concern, ABOUT MY HEALTH PROBLEMS BEING AN EPILEPTIC TRYING TO GET PROPER CARE, so don't ask me to support something YOU WANT!!!!! WHEN YOU CANNOT TAKE THE TIME TO SUPPORT OR CONCERN YOURSELF WITH SOMETHING I NEED. until then, that shows me how much my state, gov,city, and the U.S. cares about me , i WILL KEEP SMOKING. YOU TAKE 2,497.2 MG OF MEDICATION ***EVERYDAY***AND BE TURNED DOWN FOR SSI AFTER THEY QUALIFIED YOU FOR ABOUT 17 YRS, AND NOW SAY YOU DO NOT, MY BOYFRIENDS EITHER MAKES TOO MUCH MONEY OR I AM NOT CONSIDERED DISABLED ENOUGH. WELL I HAVE ALREADY HAD TO HAVE 17-19 STAPLES IN THE RIGHT SIDE OF MY HEAD FOR ALMOST 6 WKS A FEW YRS AGO DUE TO A SEIZURE. I HAVE ****EPILEPSY******NO CURE******WHY DO I HAVE TO BE PUNISHED FOR THE MONEY MY BOYFRIEND WORKS FOR, HE SUPPORTS ME AND MY KIDS, THAT IS MORE THAN MY COUNTRY IS DOING FOR ME. SUCH HYPOCRITS, ALL, YOU PAY MY DEBT. OF OVER 9,000 IN JUST E.R. MEDICAL BILLS ACCUMULATED SINCE BEING CUT OFF OF SSI, AND TELL ME I DO NOT MEET THE NEEDS, REQUIREMENTS, NOT SEVERE ENOUGH, OR THE WORST TO ME MY BOYFRIEND ****NOT MY HUSBAND****MAKES TOO MUCH MONEY. THEY OWE ME BACK PAY, CURRENT PAY, COVERAGE OF ALL PAST AND PRESENT MEDICAL BILLS, EVEN IF THEY HAVE BEEN TURNED OVER TO AN ATTORNEY REP. THE HOSP. ,,,, IS THIS THE WAY MY COUNTRY, MY STATE, THE TWISTED LAWS AND LOOPHOLES HELP ME,, WELL, NO WONDER SO MANY PPL ARE ON ANTI-DEPRESSANTS OR COMMIT SUICIDE, WE CAN'T GET HELP. TOO OLD FOR ONE THING, OR TOO YOUNG FOR THE OTHER, BOY, BOY, I GIVE IT TO THIS COUNTRY, YA'LL PLAY IT GOOD, AND I DID NOT SAY MANAGE , I SAID PLAY. THAT IS ALL WE ARE , A GAME, SOMETHING TO SHUFFLE AROUND SO LONG AS THE PERSON WHO GETS IT CAN HURRY UP AND PASS IT TO SOMEONE ELSE, SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO CONCERN THEIR SELVES WITH OUR PETTY PROBLEMS,, WHAT ARE WE --COOTIES-- WELL, THEN DON'T ASK FOR OUR TAXES.
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