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I took Cameron S. Jackson’s prompt and checked out the website of the American Episcopal Church. Its “A-Z Directory” did not have any entry regarding any creed(s) as one might suppose. However, when I placed a search for the Nicene Creed and it did indeed turn up over a hundred “discussions”. Actually, it read more like a glossary; but that was OK by me. Nothing worse than reading a bunch of ignoramuses yapping about and “sharing” their opinions on whether we “in the modern context” can be held accountable to a creed written by a bunch of men who never had seen an airplane or an indoor toilet.
Unfortunately, the very first item to pop up was “inclusive language”. This was followed by “filioque” and then by another but different “inclusive language” entry. “Jesus Christ” came in a baffling 23rd. That being said, there were a number of well written entries answering curious points about the creed and the faith. There are also a number of entries concerning subjects with little relation to the creed. (Oddly, one such entry is about Gene Robinson’s election as the diocesan bishop of New Hampshire.)
Perhaps the Episcopal Church is not quite as “off the subject” as Mr. Hillyer had suggested. On the other hand, it gives pause when Mr Jackson himself asks "...did you know that the Episcopal Church teaches that the Holy Spirit emanates from both God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son?” Anyone who has paid attention while reciting the Nicene Creed is familiar with its profession: “We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.” This profession is of profound historical significance and is one of the points of disagreement between the Western and Eastern Churches.
I do not know if this point in the Nicene Creed was indeed news to Mr. Jackson or if he was simply being provocative. But it is very likely that many young mainline Christians have been brought up through worship and instruction by clergy who felt doctrine and study of Scripture were old hat and more relevant issues were at hand. The problem is that, not only have entire generations not worn the “old hat,” they’ve never seen the “old hat.” They will know, though, that the Church gets all full of itself about hunger, racism, sexism and “peacemaking.” Young congregants may not be able to name the four Gospels; but they do know the Church employs advocates (lobbyists) to “speak truth” to the members of Congress and will bend the President’s ear every time they get a chance.
Christianity is exploding in Africa and Asia bringing thousands
under Lord Jesus. Thousands of Christians are suffering
persecution and death across the world; yet the Church in America
and Europe is fading away content that they are right on the
issues. We may actually need missionaries from the new Churches
to come to our lands and proclaim the Gospel anew.
-- Mike Dooley
YOU OR THE BEAR
Re: Eric Heidenreich's In
Praise of PETA:
So someone wakes up to the fact they have created this problem of
not killing bears in self defense and wonder why this happened.
Can it be their complete lack of common sense when it comes to
protecting wild life? This brings to mind the protesters standing
in front of a fence meant to keep the hogs in the area so as not
to be in the traffic and not get harmed until they could be
processed for human consumption. The fence came down MMM? I
wonder if one of the idiots that were killed in the stampede
broke it so as to let the hogs out of captivity. You see there is
no logic involved in being a P.E.T.A. person you just have to
have skill enough to stand in the way of stampeding bulls or
hogs. I was amused at the ones who were captured and we didn't
know if the Japanese were going to let them go or not. It was
funny seeing them lined up against the bulk head of the ship
looking like deer caught in the head lights of a car at night.
The entire organization is lame brained. I am for ethical
treatment of animals I have two dogs two cats and a rabbit , I
make sure they are treated well but I would not sacrifice a human
to save one of them. I guess I am racist in as I go with my own
kind: human beings.
-- Ken Roberts
Lebanon, Ohio
Well, I have mixed feelings about the article about PETA:
first, I feel insulted that all people who have concerns
about animals and their welfare are lumped together by the author
as intolerant nuts. Secondly, I feel PETA was "damned by
faint praise" by the author, as PETA does so very much to
investigate and promote causes that a single person does not have
the wherewithal to pursue, such as wholesale cruelty of dogs in
China for their fur, the inhumane treatment of cows in the
Slaughterhouse Industry, etc. They have had a
huge impact on assuring compassion toward sentient
beings in the world, and their nonjudgmental approach to
individual cases is legendary, notwithstanding the acts of a
minority of rabid individuals who are part of any
organization.
Maybe the author should do a little research into PETA's mission
and past accomplishments before writing a silly article about a
single silly case. You do no service to those readers who may
need to be educated about the larger issues involved in animal
rights, and much harm when you castigate an organization you know
nothing about.
I'm so glad that Eric was pleasantly surprised at PETA's
nonresponse; as a reporter, perhaps he should have used this
opportunity to look with more objective eyes into animal
cruelty and its links toward victimization and generalization to
vulnerable beings as a whole (the aged,
children) everywhere.
-- Dr. Glenda Berg
Seattle, Washington
WRITTEN LIKE AN ADULT
Re: Judah Friedman's Almost Grown:
Mr Friedman's latest piece is vulnerable and undeniably accurate.
Thank you for publishing it.
-- Mark Stern
SILVER LINING
Re: R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr.'s The
Shoddiest Coverage Ever:
At least the Democrats found a way to bring down the price of
gas.
-- Mike Showalter
Austin, Texas
Stuart Koehl| 10.27.08 @ 6:25AM
Regarding Mike Dooley's letter of 27 October, "Under Attack", while the Creed of Nicaea-Constantinople (to give the full and accurate title) as recited in the various Western Churches includes the famous (or infamous) Flioque clause (the Holy Spirit "who proceeds from the Father and the Son), in fact, the original Greek text of the Creed merely states that the Holy Spirit is "the Lord and Giver of Light, who proceeds from the Father". This has been, of course, the major bone of contention between the Churches of the East and West since the 9th century.
In an effort to resolve the matter, the Pontifical Secretariat for Promoting Christian Unity issued in 1996 a "Clarification on the Procession of the Holy Spirit", which begins by stating that the original, uninterpolated Greek text of the Creed is the only "universally binding ecumenical symbol of faith". It also points out that the Fathe alone is the "Archos Anarche", from whom the Son is begotten and the Spirit proceeds, while at the same time noting that the Holy Spirit is sent into the world by the action of the Son.
Underlining the point, both John Paul II and Benedict XVI use the Creed without the Filioque when writing ecumenical documents. As a Byzantine Catholic--a member of an Eastern Catholic Church that follows Orthodox practices and beliefs while remaining in communion with the Church of Rome--I have not used the Filioque in any liturgical service since the mid-1990s, precisely because it is the policy of the Church of Rome to respect the Tradition of each particular Church in the Catholic Communion.
Moreover, the U.S. Council of Catholic Bishops is at the present time completing the process of eliminating the Filioque from vernacular celebration of the Mass of the Latin (Roman Catholic) Church, "in order to bring liturgical practice into line with doctrine". When the Filioque is finally suppressed throughout the Latin Church, the cause of Christian unity will receive a tremendous boost by bringing all the apostolic Churches of the world under the same Symbol of Faith.
It's interesting that the Episcopal Church, which has in general walked away from all forms of Tradition in the last half century, should be clinging tendentiously to the Filioque, a doctrinal innovation of dubious theological import, at a time when it is jettisoning most of the other core doctrines it carried away when it broke from the Church of Rome back in the 16th century.
Craig Sarver| 10.27.08 @ 1:32PM
God, I hate this letters format!
ruth| 10.27.08 @ 4:50PM
Me, too! What was wrong with the old one?
J. Peter Freire| 10.27.08 @ 8:49PM
We're going to make this one page again -- sorry about this problem.
Pul DeSto| 10.28.08 @ 1:12PM
Thanks, Mr. Friere. I don't like the new letter format either.
Ms. Know| 10.30.08 @ 12:23AM
It is not over, the polls aren't votes. Majority of these polls are bias towards the liberal illuminati, so they mean nothing until next week.