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Hillary's Hell Cats

6.3.08 @ 12:01AM

UNDER THE BUS
Re: Robert Stacy McCain's Crone Wars:

Hell hath no fury...
-- Kent Lyon
College Station, Texas

I am only mildly embarrassed to admit that I'm greatly relishing the gnashing of teeth of the Hillary supporters as the Democrat party elite abandon her. Harriet Christian, Deborah Foster, and their crowd are learning the truth of the Democrat party, that it is NOT Democratic in the real sense of the word. It's about holding power. For decades the Democrats have dishonestly called the Republicans elitists and racists when it is the Democrats who in fact practiced bigotry over the years, turning American against American with their constant calls for class warfare. Now that it's happening within their own ranks the hypocrisy and phoniness are in plain sight.

The best part is seeing Harold Ickes whine. Hillary's campaign seems to be full of weenies like Ickes, Paul Begala, Lanny Davis and Sandy Berger and the Daily Kos/Move On crybabies, not to mention her own bleating husband. (Yeah, James Carville is an exception, but he's got Mary Matalin to keep him tough.) But if you think about who she is (a cuckold), what she has done ("We need the slots!" -- White House Travel Office firings) and what she supports (The government will force you to buy health insurance and prosecute you if you don't), it's only logical that such men would support her.
-- Paul DeSisto

I agree that Hillary has to support Obama to keep her options open for the future. But if Hillary supporters turn en masse to McCain and help Obama lose, it will reflect very badly on Hillary. She MUST bring her supporters around to vote for Obama. If Obama still loses, fine for her. But, she can't have it both ways. Her supporters supporting McCain and she pretending to support Obama. If this happens, the base of the party will never support her next time. I know Hillary supporters feel they got screwed, but Obama isn't the one who did it to them and they shouldn't take it out on him. Hillary lost because she was out-campaigned and other sexist/racist factors that can never be proven but are still there in everyone's minds and emotions. My personal feeling is that Bill lost if for her. If she were to divorce him and move on, she would have a chance to surpass him in popularity and also in what she may be able to accomplish. Keeping him is a drag on her chances. He is imploding personally and politically and has lost his skills. I think the Democratic party wants him gone. That is also why she can't be a real VP candidate. Nobody wants him around.
-- Stephen Wheat
Honoka'a, Hawaii

Regarding "Crone Wars," as a 60-year-old white woman, I want to say that all this whining and complaining does not empower women. It DIS-empowers them. Hillary Clinton would not be where she is without her husband. She is not a woman like Meir, Gandhi, Thatcher, and Merkel, who got where they were/are only by their OWN accomplishments. (And they NEVER used their gender to get votes.) I know a lot of older women who have told me they want Hillary because (we will also get Bill!). A lot of us women would love a woman president, but just not THIS one. It is because she is a woman (and brings along Bill) that she has been able to get all these votes. It has helped her, not hurt her. So many of these woman take it much too personally -- that a Hillary Clinton loss is a loss for them. I say, "Get over it!" Projecting onto Obama and his supporters their own biases do not serve them well.

One more thing: I believe having her on Obama's ticket is a terrible idea. For one, a black man and a white woman on one ticket is way too much for this country to handle at once. Second, she and Bill with their ambitions will do everything they can to minimize Obama's presidency and make it their own. Finally, she keeps saying only she can win in the national election. She may be able to win most of the Democrats, but not the Independents or the moderate Republicans (many of whom are already supporting Obama). If she is on the ticket as Obama's VP, not only will the Independents go to McCain, but it will mobilize those conservatives who would rather stay home this year to instead go out and vote against her.
-- Cheryl Ross

I just heard the Harriet Christian clip on the radio. It is much more effective when you can hear her querulous, New York accent spewing away at the Democrats. She made some good points about how Hillary had been treated -- even if you despise Ms. Rodham-Clinton you can have a tiny little sympathy for the humiliation she has endured at the hands of "her" people. Women continue to stand by her.

My question is this, if liberal women vote for John McCain, won't he tack even further left than he usually sails?
-- Judy Beumler
Louisville, Kentucky

I am another very very very angry woman who could not attend the protest in Washington Saturday, but I absolutely feel the same way these women do. I have every intention of starting-up a website if Hillary is not the nominee that is specifically designed to get all of Hillary's supporters to vote for McCain. The two ladies in your article are two people I would like very much to get involved in my website.
-- Vicki Almeter
Concord, North Carolina

I am a Hillary Supporter, and there is no way either me or my family would vote for Obama. We will vote for McCain, if Obama is the Democrats' nominee.

We are angry and we find it completely unacceptable the way Obama, his stooges, the Liberal Media and the DNC has treated her.
-- Romila Thakar

Having lost the fight to get Florida and Michigan's delegates seated in toto, Hillary must realize that she cannot win the Democratic nomination in 2008 unless she manages to convince a lot of delegates to switch votes, which will not happen unless Obama or one of his supporters produces a truly spectacular gaffe, one that even the media can't ignore. While this might happen, it's not likely. Hillary has to look past 2008 and position herself for 2012. In order to do this, several things must happen: Obama must lose the general election, as an incumbent Obama will be even harder to defeat four years from now, at least in the primaries. Also, if Obama is vulnerable to a primary challenge, it will be because he has failed on the scale that Jimmy Carter did previously. Hillary knows that this will damage the Democratic Party's chances to hold the White House more than anything that she could do. A successful Obama presidency would force her to wait until 2016, and that's just too long to stay married to Bill. She can't take the vice-presidential slot for the same reason. If Obama wins in 2008, he will run for reelection in 2012, and she still has to put off her run until 2016. Again, that's not her idea of a good time.

I believe that Hillary will take her fight to the convention, make the case that she is the only Democrat who can beat McCain, then gracefully (in public) accept the verdict of the party as Obama is nominated, but in private, she will work to ensure that he does not win the general election. Barack Obama cannot win without New York, and she will not let him have it. Oh, she'll make a few speeches, attend a few rallies, and make all of the right gestures, but watch how little the Democratic Party machine in NY does to get the votes out on election day. Her supporters in Emily's List and NOW will sit on their hands when Obama needs help, and may even turn out, very quietly, for McCain. An Obama loss in the general election would vindicate Hillary, who will spend the next four years blaming the far left wing of her party for the loss of a sure thing and triangulating to the center in order to position herself for another run against a Republican incumbent.
-- Mike Harris
MAJ, US Army

"By Nov. 4, the battle lines may be drawn so starkly, with such powerful appeals to partisan loyalty, that even Hillary's most bitter backers will feel obliged to vote for Obama."

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