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"I said Hillary is the candidate who can win, and that reporter started in, asking about Obama. I don't spend my time thinking about Obama."

But if Obama could win in Iowa and New Hampshire, winning majorities of white Democrats, would Ford still be worried about him holding white voters for the Democrats?

"How do you compare a Democratic primary where you have eight candidates splitting the vote -- how would you equate that with an election with one Republican and one Democrat?" he asked.

It was a pretty good point; those New Hampshire and Iowa white Democrats are true-blue liberals. Ford pushed on: "You name me three states that will elect [a] black candidate to a statewide office."

I had three: Obama's Illinois and Massachusetts and Virginia, the two that have elected black governors.

"What about what happened to Harold Ford in Tennessee? What happened to that brother in Maryland?"

I pointed out that Virginia and Massachusetts are whiter than those states.

"What's getting elected governor of Virginia got to do with getting elected president? Come on."

So could Clinton win because she'll get the black votes Obama would get plus the white votes candidates like Harold Ford didn't get?

"She'd win because she's the best candidate of all time. I'm not talking about Barack Obama."

And what about...

Ford hung up the phone.

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