10.27.03 @ 12:15AM
A special exchange: Nina Mollet vs. David Hogberg. Also: Terri Shiavo and the Right to Die. Plus more.
TERRI SHIAVO AND THE RIGHT TO DIE
Re: George Neumayr's The Chic
Culture of Death:
In "The Chic Culture of Death," George Neumayr has, with his usual
brio, written about the slippery slope that American society faces
with the right to die and the efforts to provide a constitutional
framework around the euthanasia movement. But implicit in such
arguments is the question of who will decide. Quis custodiet
ipsos custodes? (Who will judge the judges?) From what I have
read, I would not wish to be old and sick and live in the
Netherlands. But there is also another story here.
One of the most significant changes in the Catholic Church since
Vatican II has been the fundamental altering of the Society of
Jesus, a.k.a. the Jesuits. They were trained as scholars and
clerics and sent to missions far and wide, often serving as papal
shock troops. Their orthodoxy and devotion were unchallenged, until
the baleful effects of modernization appeared to undermine that
dedication.
One example of that change it is to be found in the words of
Father Kevin Wildes, S.J. The very idea that Father Wildes would
conflate water and bread as "extraordinary" means to keep someone
alive, begs the question of what means are ordinary. True, we must
allow that Father Wildes is at Georgetown University, which is
Catholic in name only, but to misrepresent the Church's historical
position on what is acceptable to maintain life is ... strange, to
put it mildly. One could be callous and remark that the problem
with this Jesuit are the Jesuits.
-- Vincent Chiarello
I think you are well aware that the true Catholic perspective is
that Terri Shiavo has an absolute right to life until God the
Father takes her home naturally. The Shiavo case has been at the
forefront of Catholic Radio for months and the pressure brought to
bear by devout Catholics has had a significant impact on the
turnabout on this case. The Catholic Church has been sufficiently
vilified for the scandal brought on by homosexual priests, to paint
the Church based on the ranting of one non-conforming priest is
unjust. I cannot speak to your personal spiritual convictions;
however, whatever bias you may hold should not cause you to
misstate the positions of the many devout Catholics the world over.
The U.S. Catholic Bishops have a long history of leftist ideology
that is in conflict with the Catholic Theology. Many of us look to
Pope John Paul II and the tradition of the Church for direction on
our faith. Perhaps it is time that those with anti-Catholic bias
address the true teaching of the Church and assess the teaching of
the current Pope and his predecessors and ignore the Bishops who
are at variance with those teachings.
-- Sam Kain
Ted Koppel's definition of "vegetative" is as convoluted as Bill
Clinton's definition of "is." I wonder how many vegetables in
Koppel's refrigerator can follow a balloon, smile, and interact in
any fashion with humans. The answer probably depends upon what he
has ingested.
-- Jenny Woodward
Bloomington, Indiana
Your article really rang a bell. Although not a product of the
"Jesuit tradition" myself, my wife and her family are all very
active alums of Marquette and Georgetown. I have met more than a
few of the "good fathers" (including a past president of one of
these schools). What a crew of bums and misfits. I know of a senior
Jesuit who personally dissuaded a young man (a close friend of
mine) from considering the priesthood because "if he had it to do
all over again, he would have never done it..." This from a man
whose considerable lifestyle, education and position in life came
to him through his association with the SofJ. They should be
disbanded. Too bad nobody has the guts to call for this
publicly.
-- Thomas Wronski
THE KRUGMAN METHOD
Re: David Hogberg's Notes From
an Instalanche:
In response to the question David Hogberg's recently posed on
your website about Paul Krugman's October 21 New York
Times column: If suggesting that Mahathir's remarks are
calculated to keep a good economy going is not excusing
anti-Semitism, what is?
Suggesting that Mahathir's remarks are calculated to rally the
support of anti-Semites is not excusing anti-Semitism. This is
nonsense.
Krugman was explaining that leaders in largely Muslim countries
are getting points from throwing out red meat of this sort. He
wasn't condoning it. He thinks that American foreign policy is
contributing to worldwide anti-Semitism.
If you want to question Krugman's column sensibly, try engaging
with the actual issues he raises: Is it true that anti-Semitism
worldwide has increased? Is it true that it has increased as a
result of American foreign policy? Has the level of Mahathir's
anti-Semitic rhetoric risen in the last two years? Does he do it
more than he used to? Does he say more extreme things than he used
to? Are other leaders in that part of the world using more
anti-Semitic language than they were before?
Krugman could be wrong about the thesis of his column, although
it seems fairly obvious to me that our recent policies have
exacerbated anti-Semitism throughout the world. But the thesis of
his column is not, "it's okay for Mahathir to talk like this." His
thesis is, "Mahathir is talking like this because it pays for him
to do so in terms of public support, and the reason it pays so well
can be traced back to stupid American foreign policy."
I think Krugman should have organized his column differently, it
was just too sophisticated. The New York Times, my 6th
grade teacher used to say, is written at a 6th grade level. But
this column is at a college level; the words are not obscure, but
the logic is more complex than you usually encounter in newspaper
columns. In other words, this column was written for people who
already have a clue. It was clear to me reading it that it would be
too easy for his enemies to mischaracterize his comments. After
all, it's not the first time he's run afoul of the right-wing smear
machine.
Suggesting that Paul Krugman would condone anti-Semitism is
absurd. As he mentioned in a comment today on his website,
most of his grandfather's relatives died in Treblinka. Krugman is
one of the most intelligent and courageous writers of our day, and
I'm sure he is getting tired of the ad hominem attacks and would
welcome people wrestling with the substance of his essays for a
change.
-- Nina Mollet
Juneau, Alaska
topics:
Foreign Policy, Education, Constitution, Alaska