10.8.03 @ 12:01AM
Re: George Neumayr’s A Party of Gropers:
A not insignificant side benefit of today’s Recall Election in the Golden State is that its long awaited arrival could bring a lessening of Mr. George Neumayr’s moralistic lecturings and obstreperous gasconades regarding the downfall of the California Republican Party for its backing of Mr. Schwarzenegger … but I doubt it.
— Samuel Keck
Indian Wells, CA
Prove it, George. I bet you supported Slick Willie, the King of Gropers and he even has been charged with rape. But I suppose you are a Rat — a DemocRAT — and will excuse any bad behavior by a Rat.
This is a sickening state of affairs. This is what this special election is about. Not groping. Not social issues. The nightmare economy and the monstrous political mafia in California that cannot be rooted out unless something extraordinary happens.
By the way I never heard of this George guy before I saw this
Awesome coverage of the recall, thanks.
— Jonathan Shultz
Fiddlesticks. The pragmatic reason for supporting Arnold is that the enemy of our enemy is our friend. Even if he’s only a 20% friend, he’s better than Gray Davis, a zero.
I take second place to no one in my disdain for country-club and dinner-party Republicans. But there was no conservative running who was going to turn California voters around and win this one in six weeks. Sure, McClintock almost certainly would make a better governor than Arnold. So would Bob Tyrrell. So would I. But none of us was ready to run and win.
The California GOP deserves blame for having a weak farm team,
with nobody electable statewide ready to step in and win. Given
their lack of preparation, they’ve made the best of a bad
— Doug Welty
George Neumayr is a useful idiot for the Democrat party. In a
primary election McClintock seemed to me to be the best choice (his
self-centered disloyalty has exposed his true character and he
doesn’t deserve support for even dog catcher). This election (no
primary) required quick determinations of who had the best chance.
Arnie won that battle. The center of mass of California Republicans
tend to be more liberal and apparently not immune from our
celebrity culture. This state of affairs is not a good thing but a
rational person should take an improvement instead of pining for
some imagined ideal. Simon did the right thing and got out (he
deserves support in the future). McClintock and Neumayr-like losers
decided to split the vote and work hard for the Democrat party.
They attempt to hide behind principles but they smell exactly like
the Perot supporters trying to send messages that will never be
heard by anybody but the Democrats who exploit them.
— Clifton Briner
The Spectator piece on Arnold and the Republican party is
spot on. In my view, the Republican Party stood for something other
than power for the sake of power, which has been the sole domain of
the Democrat Party for decades. Now, the Republicans are no better
than the Dems. If the Republicans stood on principled ground, then
they surely would have lost this particular race, but not the next
one and that could have been a significant influence on future
Republican gains. Now, if someone says they see no difference
between the two parties, then they are more right than wrong…
— Steve Shaver
I disagree! Republicans have not adopted the sleazy
tactics of the dark side! Arnie has not been accused of the acts
Willie committed. Take another look at the testimony of the 15
“gropees.” Does it seem plausible to you that in 30 years, a
dominant, rich male player in a city and business reputed to be of
such low moral standards, did no better than a feel here or a
fondle there? The last President did a lot better than that and
never left his office. Using a baseball phrase, Arnie never got to
first base! And, according to the 15 wannabes, he never scored.
Does that sound accurate? Does that sound like reality? The
testimony has been fudged. No, Republicans are not adopting that
other side’s tactics but the other side is still doing what they do
in the sewer.
— M in Colleyville
It is exactly the exclusionary, judgmental attitude demonstrated by George Neumayr that has prevented any meaningful Republican progress in California. To trot out the Clinton-Schwarzenegger comparisons over and over again only shows how Mr. Neumayr’s position doesn’t stand up to even lightweight scrutiny. Allegations of groping by an international celebrity from a dozen-or-so unnamed women and a few book-deal-seekers over a 30-year-time period. I find this unremarkable on its face particularly when it is reported 120 hours before an election by the left-wing L.A. Times on Page One. Taken along with some litmus-test logic on abortion and race, the argument is nothing more than a malcontented rant. Clinton abused his power for years before he became president, was a serial molester and had to settle a sexual battery lawsuit; Schwarzenegger is a private citizen with no lawsuits and a marriage of love rather than of convenience. There is no moral equivalency between these two men.
Mr. Neumayr: You have lost sight of what the recall is all about:
An illegal tripling of the car tax. Illegal aliens with CA driver’s licenses. Massive out-of-control state spending, including 40,000 additional state employees added since 1998. Unaffordable energy rates. The nation’s highest worker’s compensation rates and lowest benefits. The state’s credit rating is dead last in the nation. School curriculum and test scores are below the nation’s average. “Pay-to-play” politics allow unions and corporations access to governmental influence and cash. Illegal borrowing to paper-over the projected budget deficits in 2004. Businesses having to incur another $4 billion in employee health benefit expenses on top of additional state-mandated family leave expenses. Illegal campaign contributions by Indian gaming casinos. Business leaving CA for Nevada and Arizona. A governor that waits until crisis hits and then blames someone else. A $10 billion dollar surplus turned into a $38 billion deficit in four years (without financing an overseas war unlike the Feds — I don’t buy that equivalency argument either).
The problems can and will be fixed by a Republican. I’m thinking about the conservative renaissance in CA and Nationwide that might result from this, not whether our next governor grabbed a hippie chick’s ass in 1978.
So, enough of your moral sermonizing — save it for your John
— Keith Lehmann
Neumayr apparently has forgotten about the Big Tent. Republicans,
according to the Democrats, had a little tent filled with
neoconservatives, religious nuts, strict constitutionalists, and
some odd balls. The Democrats Big Tent had everyone else. That was
not right. So now we have a Big Tent, too. We want that Big Tent
filled up, by God! And if that means we have some RINOs (Olympia
Snowe, come on down!), a few adulterers and wife beaters, and yes,
even a Clintonwannabe Groper or two, so be it. Our Big Tent is not
gonna be empty! To paraphrase one of the characters in Dr.
Strangelove, “We can’t allow a Big Tent Gap!”
— Mike Webster
George Neumayr wrote that the California Republican Party is the party of gropers. Well, has anyone told George that he is a “Political Vigilante” with his article. How the hell did I come up with that one? Well, he is denying Arnold the proper forum to defend himself against unsubstantiated accusations. The proper forum should have been a court of law and not an election or appointment. Investigations should be done by law enforcement instead of political operatives.
It is not only the right of a citizen to seek justice against those who wrong them, but, it should also be the duty of a good citizen to play a role in maintaining civility in this country. If people seek revenge outside of our systems of justice, those people are not concerned citizens; rather, they are just another group of vigilantes. That fits the author of “A Party of Gropers.”
Anita Hill, Paula Jones, and the fifteen who came out against Arnold have basically mocked our systems of justice while also trying to undermine our elections and appointments just for political reasons. These people should have initially used the systems of courts instead of interfering with elections and appointments. I find it disgusting that they do not respect our courts or our selection of government officials. I find these people to be worse than the perpetrators. What right does somebody who does not honor our system of justice have to interfere with a democratic process? The institution is far more important than any candidate or political party; yet, we have clowns who think that this country is no longer greater than them.
Care to join the scumbag club by being a vigilante? I am flabbergasted by the fact that both of our major parties have resorted to a vigilante style of politics. They are the same as the lynch mobs who carried out atrocities years ago. To those who cannot respect our system of justice, our selection of government officials, and the will of the majority, “Go to hell and get out of this great country.” Depriving one of due process is just another way of depriving all of us of our rights.
Have a nice day (Just kidding),
— Charlie Brixey
Right on, George! Republicans should have learned when they dissed
Cooksey in Louisiana. Principled people tend to stay home when
given these kinds of choices.
— Annette Cwik
I would like as much as anybody associated with The American Spectator to see a “conservative” government for California. And George and the rest of you are probably right that Arnold won’t be that government we desire. But the attacks and accusations by Neumayr and McClintock are largely based on Democratic mud-slinging and have yet to be proved. And Arnold is showing himself to be head and shoulders above Clinton in his willingness to take the issues head on. Also, he isn’t being accused of abuse of power like Clinton was. Making inappropriate sexual advances is way below where Clinton went in terms of wrongdoing.
Frankly, after reading Neumayr’s hostile attacks and seeing
McClintock on TV I’ve come to the conclusion that they are two
folks who think that wrapping themselves in the cloak of
conservatism makes them better and holier than everybody else. If
McClintock is such a good conservative pol, then why hasn’t all his
years of government service amounted to jack? The Democrats have
owned California for years and kept him in a box. If he has been
incapable all those years of advancing a conservative agenda, then
what the hell makes him think that by sniping at Arnold when he
doesn’t have a chance in hell is an improvement? McClintock is an
embarrassment to himself, to conservatism and to the Republican
Party. He should quit politics and find a position in some bible
thumping church where he can preach the true way to the converted.
Neumayr can take his biased writing and join him.
— Doug Barth
Sorry, George, you are off base on your recent Recall article.
— Peter Philbin
The best thing about the recall election is that the California
Republican Party in particular and all other parties will finally
be able to count their supporters based on ideology. The recall
prism will separate them all out.
— Jeff Brownell
Re: Jed Babbin’s The Road to Damascus:
Jed’s column states “In response[to the bombing of the
restaurant in Haifa] the Israeli Air Force bombed the Ein Saheb
terrorist camp about 30 miles from the Syrian capital of Damascus.”
Too bad the Israeli pilots, normally dead-solid perfect, were 30
miles off-target this time. Bashar must be p*****g in his lace
panties about now.
— Mike Webster
Jed Babbin has it exactly right in observing U.S. ambassador to the U.N., John Negroponte, painted a big red bull’s eye on Bashar Assad’s forehead and in urging the Israelis to widen their attacks on the terrorist offices, bases and camps in Syria. However I believe he is mistaken to dismiss Syria as “small potatoes”.
Legend has it the road to Damascus passes through Baghdad. Thanks to the stunning success of our young men and women in uniform last Spring, we now hold Baghdad (and the rest of Iraq) in overwhelming numbers. We should not allow this perishable advantage to slip away through neglect.
Patton argued that we should drive the Soviets back to within their own borders as WWII started to fade while we had the forces on the ground to do so.
MacArthur argued we should cut essential Chinese logistic support — thus ending their drive into the DPRK following our successful amphibious assault at Inchon — by bombing vulnerable targets north of the Yalu River with the forces then in theater.
In each instance, U.S. civilian leadership faltered. Patton was benched and the Iron Curtain dropped across Europe. MacArthur was fired and the Korean stalemate has lingered on like a festering sore for half a century — now grown into nuclear saber rattling thanks to the ham fisted intervention of a still-humiliated Jimmy (“there you go again”) Carter who seems to think he can run his own personal foreign policy after having botched up U.S. foreign policy so badly two decades ago.
We have the forces in place to bend Syria to our will. Assad has
been given more than enough fair warning. Iran can wait awhile
longer. Syria and Lebanon — especially the Bekaa Valley — present
a target rich environment that merits our attention in the near
term. To the extent that Israeli and U.S. interests in this hostile
region coincide, fine, by all means give Israel a piece of the
action. But we should never forget “Never Again” when it comes to
memories of Lower Manhattan and Arlington and the four civilian
passenger jets where so many innocent Americans perished almost 25
months ago. The war on terror is OUR fight. We should take the lead
and push the envelope with dispatch….
— Thomas E. Stuart
Re: Chris Gill’s and Ken Shreve’s letter in Reader Mail’s When Rush Comes to Be Shoved:
Chris Gill nailed it!
— Geoff Brandt
With friends like Ken Shreve you don’t need enemies. I think I
understand his sophisticated argument. Go along with political
correctness since there is nothing you can do anyway (better to
just go along passively). Mr. Limbaugh can earn Ken’s approval by
being as gutless as Ken. Of course no one would listen to him if he
acted like Ken.
— Clifton Briner
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